The Dave Chang Show

886 chef and 'The Next Thing You Eat' guest Eric Sze joins Dave and Chris for a scalding plunge into what may be Dave's favorite cooking method out there today: the bubbling cauldron of communal deliciousness known as hot pot. Beneath the surface, though, colossal schisms are revealed—sauce or no sauce? Fish ball or no fish ball? Fancy wagyu or humble, pre-sliced eye of round? Does fondue count as hot pot?? Our panel battles it out until the last bit of butane's been put through the burner. Hosts: Dave Chang and Chris Ying Guest: Eric Sze Associate Producer: Sasha Ashall Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

With the leftover stuffing all eaten at last, and Dave-dismaying Mariah Carey songs already in the air, we turn our minds toward Christmastime. Discussed: wearing Dickensian costumes to the House of Prime Rib, the Dave Chang Grinchification Tracker, anti-fruitcake diatribes, stollen vs. panettone vs. buche de Noel, Garrett Popcorn flavors tearing our hosts apart, making your kitchen look like a Jamba Juice, the Christmas gift infinity gauntlet, and our last-minute multitier frenemy-to-forever-person gift guide. Hosts: Dave Chang and Chris Ying Guest: Noelle Cornelio Associate Producer: Sasha Ashall Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Our first guest ever, the Podfather himself, returns to recall the freewheeling days when this podcast was just a glimmer in Dave’s eye. Also considered: Stephen A. Smith, what makes a great show, remembering Tom Hanks movies vs. remembering notable life events, the perfectly sized dinner table, throwing a chain saw into a hot tub, Jon Favreau’s ‘Dinner for Five,’ Ooni ovens vs. French bread pizzas, the potential death of season tickets, what a 22-year-old Dave Chang would do in 2021, wearing belts again, and burning down your entire neighborhood with the smoker Jimmy Kimmel gave you. Host: Dave Chang Guest: Bill Simmons Associate Producer: Sasha Ashall Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The stars are out, and Dave and Chris have assembled for another late-night fever dream of a Q&A. Discussed: sleep regression, Cajun honey ham, crossing the marinated meat rubicon, Thanksgiving-flavored chips, H Mart oxtail prices, a disastrous scallops purchase, eating breakfast sausage on the drive home, Hugo climbing the pantry like a cat burglar, Sichuan celery salad, bringing your own salt to restaurants, and a late-breaking report from the guy who inspired last month's flawless Dave Chang delivery day. Hosts: Dave Chang and Chris Ying Associate Producer: Sasha Ashall Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The thrilling, shocking conclusion has arrived—Round 4 of the quest to discover the Autumnal American Pie of the Year. But before revealing our winner, we discuss Dave's latest Thanksgiving gambit, a forgotten mother sauce, 14-hour hot-sauce fevers, second-degree cheese-fry burns on date night, flat-earther pie preferences, the limits of the sweet-salty paradigm, making every month pie month, the most beautiful pie Chris has ever seen, the one pie Dave's family ate in its entirety, sugar-acid key-lime alchemy, a buttermilk-raspberry trip beyond the pie horizon, cannoli vampirism, and Dave finally praising the Bay Area. Hosts: Dave Chang and Chris Ying Associate Producer: Sasha Ashall Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

At last, we answer America's burning question: Who won the Pronunciation Bee? And then: a glimpse into Dave's vast Basque Rolodex, a prophecy fulfilled, buying a 14-pound serrano ham from Costco, the eternally unsolved croissant conundrum, dubious expat accents, a supercomputer-fueled rumination on holiday homecomings, Proustian trauma, Christmas in the Philippines, Chris's skin care routine, winning Friendsgiving with a gravy thermos, and Antarctic ice-sampling missions into the depths of the parental fridge. Hosts: Dave Chang and Chris Ying Guest: Noelle Cornelio Associate Producer: Sasha Ashall Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

POIF Part 3 is here, and the gang is in very deep. After a brief check-in with KCRW's pie-contest maven, Evan Kleiman (5:20), we get into our tasters' pie-zonked responses to the mail-order barrage (11:05). Featuring discussion of Dave's sole pie-making attempt, a journey beyond the 'Interstellar'-inspired pie horizon, mincemeat disappointment, eating key lime pie in South Beach, #pielife vs. #vanlife, and Oakland's great Lois the Pie Queen. Hosts: Dave Chang and Chris Ying Guest: Noelle Cornelio and Evan Kleiman Associate Producer: Sasha Ashall Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Dave and Chris welcome back chef Diep Tran to celebrate the treasured elixir that is Red Boat Fish Sauce before embarking on a whirlwind survey of their all-time favorite potluck play—Vietnamese summer rolls. Topics covered: the forbidden fruit of the kitchen, making mortadella in the garage with a buffalo chopper, first-press fish sauce, respect vs. fear on the way to embracing the funk, surf and turf vs. pork and shrimp, honey mustard vs. sweet and sour, the holy grail of no-dip rice paper, ordering head cheese over Instagram, eating alfalfa sprouts on the commune, and the Gene Hackman of flavors. Hosts: Dave Chang and Chris Ying Guest: Diep Tran Associate Producer: Sasha Ashall Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Dave, Chris, and Noelle briefly say some nice things about Isaac on his last episode as the producer of this show (0:00) before diving back into the world of crusty circles (15:45). Hosts: Dave Chang and Chris Ying Guest: Noelle Cornelio Producer: Isaac Lee Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Have you ever been at a restaurant and afraid to order a dish because you don’t know how to say its name properly? Well, so have Dave and Chris. In this installment of Demystified, they call up the Los Angeles Times’ Gustavo Arellano to discuss all things pronunciation. Hosts: Dave Chang and Chris Ying Guest: Gustavo Arellano Producer: Isaac Lee Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

It’s finally November, also known as pie month here at Team MOIF. In celebration, we wax poetic about our favorite crusty circles and learn about the best ways to make pies at home. Hosts: Dave Chang and Chris Ying Guest: Noelle Cornelio Producer: Isaac Lee Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Another #AskDave After Dark, another chaotic conversation, another frenzy of answering your questions. On today’s show: rushed cooking on a tight parenting schedule, lap cheong vs. Spam, how to eat pancakes, what to order when your significant other is away, and the best salads in the world. Hosts: Dave Chang and Chris Ying Producer: Isaac Lee Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Each member of the MOIF crew put together seven-member rosters of candy. And things got … a little competitive. Hosts: Dave Chang and Chris Ying Guest: Noelle Cornelio Producer: Isaac Lee Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Dave and Chris are joined by Priya Krishna to explain the thought process behind their new book “Cooking at Home: Or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying About Recipes (And Love My Microwave)” before hearing Priya’s five most essential cooking tools. Host: Dave Chang and Chris Ying Guest: Priya Krishna Producer: Isaac Lee Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The MOIF crew continue their excessively obsessive conversation surrounding the grocery store experience (0:00) before drafting supermarkets from around the world (28:21). Hosts: Dave Chang and Chris Ying Guest: Noelle Cornelio Producer: Isaac Lee Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Dave and Chris are joined by filmmaker Morgan Neville to preview their upcoming Hulu series ‘The Next Thing You Eat’ (0:00) before discussing their favorite music to play at a dinner party (42:24). Hosts: Dave Chang and Chris Ying Guest: Morgan Neville Producer: Isaac Lee Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The MOIF crew debate the what, where, and how of buying groceries. What even is a grocery store? Do you buy organic or conventional? Cart or basket? We answer these burning questions and many more, so much so that we have to make it a two-parter. Hosts: Dave Chang and Chris Ying Guest: Noelle Cornelio Producer: Isaac Lee Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Dave and Chris bring in coffee legend George Howell to hear about how he changed the coffee industry, what goes into good coffee, and where coffee is going in the future. Hosts: Dave Chang and Chris Ying Guest: George Howell Producer: Isaac Lee Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The crew reassemble to discuss everything that has to do with that meal you eat in the middle of your day. Host: Dave Chang Guests: Chris Ying and Noelle Cornelio Producer: Isaac Lee Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Dave and Chris call up Pablo Torre, ESPN personality and father to an 18-month-old baby, to discuss their children’s poop for a truly disturbing amount of time (13:00) before sharing their recent experiences in all other aspects of parenting (28:30). Hosts: Dave Chang and Chris Ying Guest: Pablo Torre Producer: Isaac Lee Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Now that many of us have safely returned to dining out, Noelle asks the rest of the crew: How do you react when you drop your silverware? (13:16) How do you order well? (26:30) How do you pay? (39:29) Hosts: Dave Chang and Chris Ying Guest: Noelle Cornelio Producer: Isaac Lee Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Dave recounts the week he first met Australian fish chef Josh Niland (0:39) before Josh explains how to overcome the trepidations many feel about cooking fish and all of the glorious ways to do so (9:22). Find Josh’s bestseller 'The Whole Fish Cookbook' and new book 'Take One Fish' wherever books are sold. Hosts: Dave Chang and Chris Ying Guest: Josh Niland Producer: Isaac Lee Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Dave, Chris, Noelle, and Isaac congregate once again to debate the merits of recipes (or the lack thereof) (0:24) before sharing their thoughts on a variety of topics, culinary or otherwise (18:46). Hosts: Dave Chang and Chris Ying Guest: Noelle Cornelio Producer: Isaac Lee Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Dave and Chris are joined by kebab aficionado Euno Lee to discuss the culinary world of kebabs in the greater Los Angeles area and beyond. Hosts: Dave Chang and Chris Ying Guest: Euno Lee Producer: Isaac Lee Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Dave is joined by Chris, Isaac, and Noelle “the Snackmaster” Cornelio to share the behind-the-scenes chaos of booking guests for this very podcast (0:36) before opining on several culinary topics (14:51). Hosts: Dave Chang and Chris Ying Guest: Noelle Cornelio Producer: Isaac Lee Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

We’re back! Connecting from his garage in the wee hours of the night, Dave reunites with Chris and Isaac to answer listener questions that came in during the break. Hosts: Dave Chang and Chris Ying Producer: Isaac Lee Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

While we are on hiatus, we’ll be releasing remastered episodes from our sister podcast ‘Recipe Club.’ Bryan Ford joins Dave and Chris to respectfully discuss their three recipes—which this week concern Boboli shelf-stable pizza crust. This podcast consists of potentially the longest conversation anyone outside of the Boboli organization has had about the end-of-the-aisle grocery store staple. Hosts: Dave Chang and Chris Ying Guest: Bryan Ford Producer: Isaac Lee Associate Producer: Sasha Ashall Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

While we are on hiatus, we’ll be releasing remastered episodes from our sister podcast ‘Recipe Club.’ Dave and Chris are joined by the 'Recipe Club' doyenne Rachel Khong to respectfully discuss the three recipes they have chosen to represent an ingredient that goes by many names such as polenta, cornmeal, or grits — it's a wholesome mush loved by Italians and people of the American South alike. Hosts: Dave Chang and Chris Ying Guest: Rachel Khong Producer: Isaac Lee Associate Producer: Sasha Ashall Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

While we are on hiatus, we’ll be releasing remastered episodes from our sister podcast ‘Recipe Club.’ Dave and Chris are joined by Priya Krishna to respectfully discuss the three gyoza recipes they have chosen and what constitutes their ideal dumpling. Hosts: Dave Chang and Chris Ying Guest: Priya Krishna Producer: Isaac Lee Associate Producer: Sasha Ashall Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Dave, Chris, and Isaac convene at nighttime to answer questions submitted by you, the listeners. And … it really goes off the rails, somehow even more than usual. Hosts: Dave Chang and Chris Ying Producer: Isaac Lee Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Dave shares his thoughts on a few culinary topics (0:30) before he and Chris bring in ‘High on the Hog’ host Stephen Satterfield to discuss how modern foodways in the United States are rooted in the history of slavery and the consequent injustices against African American people in the culinary world that persist to this day (11:00). Hosts: Dave Chang and Chris Ying Guest: Stephen Satterfield Producer: Isaac Lee Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Dave shares a few lessons learned from some recent food adventures (3:37) before he and Chris bring in ‘Roadrunner’ director Morgan Neville to reflect on food media titan Anthony Bourdain’s life, career, death, and legacy (15:00). You can watch ‘Roadrunner: A Film About Anthony Bourdain’ in theaters starting July 16. Hosts: Dave Chang and Chris Ying Producer: Isaac Lee Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Dave, Chris, and Isaac discuss the future of foodie culture in the post-pandemic Western world (0:26) before they riff on a variety of topics selected by the “supercomputer" (15:45). Hosts: Dave Chang and Chris Ying Producer: Isaac Lee Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Dave and Chris discuss the delineation of certain foods as “ethnic” and the scarcity of certain ingredients in the United States (0:23) before they bring in Weee! founder and CEO Larry Liu to hear what his company is doing to help with that (35:36). Hosts: Dave Chang and Chris Ying Guest: Larry Liu Producer: Isaac Lee Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Dave explains why the hamburger is actually the move at a high-end Western restaurant (0:29) before he and Chris answer a variety of culinary questions posed by “supercomputer” Isaac Lee (21:49). Hosts: Dave Chang and Chris Ying Producer: Isaac Lee Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Dave explains how he makes a beloved Korean dish, the oxtail soup (0:41), before he and Chris link up with Japanese Breakfast’s Michelle Zauner to discuss her new book ‘Crying in H Mart’ and how food serves as a cultural tether to her family (14:04). Hosts: Dave Chang and Chris Ying Guest: Michelle Zauner Producer: Isaac Lee Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Dave answers questions sent in by you, the listeners! Hosts: Dave Chang and Chris Ying Producer: Isaac Lee Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Dave, Chris, and Isaac discuss the virtues of no-nonsense restaurant service (0:23) before sharing their thoughts on a variety of random topics (26:35). Hosts: Dave Chang and Chris Ying Producer: Isaac Lee Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Dave and Chris share their recent adventures in parenthood (0:55) before speaking with philosopher Tom Whyman about the morality of human procreation (32:53). Hosts: Dave Chang and Chris Ying Guest: Tom Whyman Producer: Isaac Lee Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Dave shares his takeaways from eating hot pot for the first time since the pandemic began (0:54) before he and Chris give their opinions on a variety of topics chosen by the “supercomputer” (20:53). Hosts: Dave Chang and Chris Ying Producer: Isaac Lee Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Dave and Chris talk to The Sioux Chef's Sean Sherman about the heritage of Indigenous American food and reclaiming its place within the modern-day United States culinary landscape. Hosts: Dave Chang and Chris Ying Guest: Sean Sherman Producer: Isaac Lee Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Dave, Chris, and Isaac talk about technological advances in dentistry (0:57) before they share their thoughts on several culinary topics (18:18). Hosts: Dave Chang and Chris Ying Producer: Isaac Lee Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Dave and Chris are joined by filmmaker Alan Yang to discuss how to have a healthy relationship with work, the adventurous turn of ‘Master of None’ Season 3, and the road ahead for Asian Americans in the entertainment industry. Hosts: Dave Chang and Chris Ying Guest: Alan Yang Producer: Isaac Lee Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Dave and Chris are joined by legendary pitmaster Rodney Scott and food historian Lolis Elie to discuss the wonderful world of whole-hog barbecue. Hosts: Dave Chang and Chris Ying Guests: Rodney Scott and Lolis Elie Producer: Isaac Lee Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Dave answers questions sent in by you, the listeners! Hosts: Dave Chang and Chris Ying Producer: Isaac Lee Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Dave briefly ruminates on how restaurant operators might view the industry differently in a post-pandemic world (0:00) before being joined by Hedley & Bennett founder Ellen Bennett to discuss the lessons she learned from her roller coaster of a career (9:11). Then, they play a short round of My Opinion Is Fact (39:43). You can pick up Ellen’s new book, ‘Dream First, Details Later,’ at your local bookstore or wherever books are sold. Host: Dave Chang Guest: Ellen Bennett Producer: Isaac Lee Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

In light of the truly shocking revelation that was the Chris Ying Caloric Experience, Dave, Chris, and Isaac formulate a dietary challenge to get healthier (0:26) before discussing a variety of culinary and tangential topics (19:33). Hosts: Dave Chang and Chris Ying Producer: Isaac Lee Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

After appearing on one of our most popular episodes ever—“Debunking Microwave Myths”—Boston University professor Greg Blonder rejoins the show to discuss the science behind nonstick pans, stainless steel, and other household cooking items. Hosts: Dave Chang and Chris Ying Guest: Greg Blonder Producer: Isaac Lee Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Dave waxes poetic about the unique pizza-eating experience that New York City offers (0:00) before he, Chris, and Isaac discuss a variety of culinary topics (27:09). Host: Dave Chang and Chris Ying Producer: Isaac Lee Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Dave and Chris are joined by New Yorker staff writer Gideon Lewis-Kraus to discuss the recent renewal of credibility for UFO sightings and the possibility of extraterrestrial life. Read Gideon’s new article “How the Pentagon Started Taking UFOs Seriously” here. Hosts: Dave Chang and Chris Ying Guest: Gideon Lewis-Kraus Producer: Isaac Lee Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices