The Dave Chang Show

Chris and Dave call up the pair behind the best-selling 'Notes from a Young Black Chef' to discuss their brand new cookbook 'My America,' and what it reveals about how we’ll all be eating in the years to come. Also: Playing to your strengths, giving birth to a word baby, cross-country recipe testing, re-upping on jambalaya at the dog park, Kwame’s Harry Potter House, a yin-yang of dolphins, Maggi seasoning, Miami oxtail prices, high-resolution recipes, the guy who created curry goat, what Kwame wants to eat on a book tour, North Korean noodles, and surfing the seafood stock danger zone. Hosts: Dave Chang and Chris Ying Guests: Kwame Onwuachi and Joshua David Stein Producer: Sasha Ashall Additional Production: Jordan Bass Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

After last week’s Dave-induced derailment, it’s time at last for the gang to relay their Required Eating reports—and suddenly, everyone’s putting up numbers. Also encountered along the way: misleading fish marketing, a diner deep dive, Bobby Van’s, Noelle the Fanpire, 10 a.m. mozzarella sticks, a delightful eggplant parm, Hawaiian-style rib eye, a belated lemon-pepper defense, Elite Yelper Chris Ying, a rookie visit to Hillstone, the magic of Pierre Gagnaire, and Dave’s application for 'Iron Chef.' Hosts: Dave Chang and Chris Ying Guest: Noelle Cornelio Producer: Sasha Ashall Additional Production: Jordan Bass and Lala Rasor Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Dave and Chris call up Acre Venture Partners co-founder Lucas Mann to talk about how a future-focused VC firm engages with the tough-to-change worlds of food and agriculture—and about why Dave and Acre decided to work together. Plus: Patagonia vests, alternative protein, brilliant and world-changing people doing totally off-the-wall shit, getting a degree in Tibetan Buddhism, pork cocoons, 3D-printed fish grown in a car trunk, Slow Food, the sugar-industrial complex, the Island of Dr. Moreau, and a last-minute shark-tank pitch from Dave Chang. Hosts: Dave Chang and Chris Ying Guest: Lucas Mann Producer: Sasha Ashall Additional Production: Jordan Bass and Lala Rasor Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The MOIF team reconvenes to review the Required Eating challenges handed down last week—and what was meant to be a finale turns into more of a cliffhanger. But then, Dave, Chris, and Noelle dust themselves off and dive into: celebrity hotel-room cooking, Dave’s Batman rankings, a disappointing shrimp cocktail, bacon-to-lettuce ratios, when to wake up, dreams of hyper-efficiency, the Michael Pollan effect, feeling like a Quaker, taking a rocket ship to Hell for 20 minutes, Dave’s grade in Friendship 102, and the old bait-and-switch. Hosts: Dave Chang and Chris Ying Guest: Noelle Cornelio Producer: Sasha Ashall Additional Production: Jordan Bass and Lala Rasor Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The Great Pizza Debate continues with Recipe Club veteran and New World Sourdough author Bryan Ford stepping up to contend with unrepentant homemade pizza skeptic Dave Chang—but when the doppio-zero dust clears, whose pizza path will the world choose to follow? Plus: haircut narcolepsy, pan de coco, Dave making Jamaican food, heirloom Hot Pockets, putting bread on a pedestal, pulling up to the retirement community with the wood-fired pizza oven, open-crumb shots, Brian Scalabrine, and an honest assessment of Chris’s pasta salad. Hosts: Dave Chang and Chris Ying Guest: Bryan Ford Producer: Sasha Ashall Additional Production: Jordan Bass and Lala Rasor Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Dave, Chris, and Noelle are shaking up the show with a newly kinetic, activity-driven MOIF format—and if you're reading this, we're roping you into it, too. Also discussed: Diet Dr. Pepper, ordering London broil at a diner, Iron Chef, Dave's spinach-artichoke dip, encountering Biscoff cookies beneath 35,000 feet, asking for a second meal on a flight, restaurants making their own charcoal, fried-rice windfalls, and a farewell to Dave's mom. Hosts: Dave Chang and Chris Ying Guest: Noelle Cornelio Producers: Sasha Ashall and Mike Wargon Additional Production: Jordan Bass and Lala Rasor Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

John Walker was earning accolades for his work as a brewer in Santa Fe when he heard about a different kind of challenge—starting up a first-class nonalcoholic brewery. He tells Dave and Chris about what drew him to Athletic Brewing, amid a conversation covering temperance pairings, shift drinks, the Am-I-Stupid test, mowing the lawn in a shirt and tie, the great taste of cheap beer, Mosaic hops, capturing aromatic compounds, Joe Biden's favorite Gatorade, standing in line for Pliny the Younger, the sparkling water glut, beer regionality, and Dave's ongoing crusade against IPA. Hosts: Dave Chang and Chris Ying Guest: John Walker Producers: Sasha Ashall and Mike Wargon Additional Production: Jordan Bass and Lala Rasor Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The gang returns for another late-night Q&A—but first, as a little warm-up, we recap Dave’s visit to Pizzeria Bianco, Chris’s Newport Seafood birthday experience, dinner-course deluges, and what happens when the kitchen writes Hufflepuff on the ticket. Then the questions begin. Confronted on this episode: potato antimatter, figs on a plate, gas station Jojos, curly fry engineering, the beauty of a properly poured Guinness, wedding registry advice, Kewpie mayo, booze that comes in a pleather case, Deanna Troi, and really, really good fruit. Hosts: Dave Chang and Chris Ying Guest: Jordan Bass Producer: Sasha Ashall Additional Production: Jordan Bass and Lala Rasor Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Eighteen months after opening the doors at West Oakland’s Horn BBQ, Matt Horn has lines down the block, a second restaurant, and a new cookbook out this week—but finding that success was far from easy. Matt talks to Dave and Chris about the many long nights and moments of truth along the way, as well as the meal in Japan that Dave can’t stop thinking about, hangover salvation, bloomin’ onions, the 3 a.m. internal BBQ monologue, repo man Heston Blumenthal, burning the boats behind you, BBQ omakase, cooking hot links until they burst, Coke vs. Pepsi, where Matt’s eating in Oakland, and having faith in the fire vs. just wanting to eat the brisket already. Hosts: Dave Chang and Chris Ying Guest: Matt Horn Producer: Sasha Ashall Additional Production: Jordan Bass and Lala Rasor Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

On their latest fact-finding expedition, Dave, Chris, and Noelle criss-cross the Western U.S. to consider becoming a carrot-cake household, 'Harry Potter' geography, fish maw soup, Peking-style pork chop, Chris and Noelle’s recent visit to Vegas, Bang Bar walking snacks, bathtub eating, wasabi-pea rice krispies, Dave taking another swing at Soylent, Chris’s Popeyes order, John Cougar Mellencamp, and the ominous, apparently unstoppable advance of the Seattle Dog. Hosts: Dave Chang and Chris Ying Guest: Noelle Cornelio Producer: Sasha Ashall Additional Production: Jordan Bass and Lala Rasor Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

What was life like for a young New York chef chasing a dream in the early 2000s? Milk Bar founder and Dave Chang chosen-family member Christina Tosi was there to see it, and her latest book, 'Dessert Can Save the World,' relays a lot of what she learned then and since. Christina calls up Dave and Chris to consider what she and Dave were like in their 20s, the smile vs. the grimace, the power of not having a plan, barbecue soft serve, the everything-bagel influence of Wylie Dufresne, proving Dave wrong, rainbow sprinkles, work-life ratios, eating multiple bowls of Honey Bunches of Oats, Dave discovering chocolate milk, and what might happen if Christina Tosi faced off against the Wheel of Constraint. Hosts: Dave Chang and Chris Ying Guest: Christina Tosi Producer: Sasha Ashall Additional Production: Jordan Bass and Lala Rasor Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

With a crab-or-prime-rib-driven 80th birthday party to plan, Dave, Chris, and Noelle set out to survey the Southern California seafood-banquet landscape, and attempt to chart the ideal parameters of a celebratory family meal. Also explored: Dave’s body falling apart, a real-life candy draft, whether Veggie Straws are vegetables, Brodard Chateau, Dave’s thoughts on Renaissance architecture, Noelle’s dinner at HaiDiLao, table-side cooking, and Recipe Club returning tomorrow! Hosts: Dave Chang and Chris Ying Guest: Noelle Cornelio Producer: Sasha Ashall Additional Production: Jordan Bass and Lala Rasor Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The eminent author of 'The Food Lab' and the just-released 'The Wok' joins Dave and Chris to talk about life as a lodestar to a generation of cooks, being a dad, and how he feels about making food at home. Plus: debunking the restaurant-burner requirement, our collective no-recipe moment, encountering your mom’s YouTube history, Googling jambalaya, perfection vs. discovery, Harold McGee, canon vs. fan fiction, and Kenji’s take on the Seattle Dog. Hosts: Dave Chang and Chris Ying Guest: J. Kenji López-Alt Producer: Sasha Ashall Additional Production: Jordan Bass and Lala Rasor Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

After comparing notes on their latest LA exploits, Dave, Chris, and Noelle step into the My Opinion is Fact arena once again—before deciding that the time is right for an impromptu assessment of the national chain-restaurant landscape. Discussed along the way: frozen langoustines, Dave eating clean, double-fried kakiage, another visit to Disneyland, the mainstreaming of birria, mustard martinis, gambling on diner paella, and the Dave Chang Show Third Eye Blind cover band. Hosts: Dave Chang and Chris Ying Guest: Noelle Cornelio Producer: Sasha Ashall Additional Production: Jordan Bass and Lala Rasor Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

'Big Mouth' and 'Human Resources' creator (and Dave’s old friend!) Nick Kroll is back on the show to talk about new projects, new parenthood, and all the internal juggling and existential turmoil these achievements entail. Also: Staten Island pub crawls, working with Mel Brooks on 'History of the World, Part II,' making babies use Waze, appeasing your inner demons, terrible kitchen analogies, the person you are at work vs. the person you are at home, watching 'The Exorcist' at age 5, and constructing the ultimate new-dad cooler. Hosts: Dave Chang and Chris Ying Guest: Nick Kroll Producer: Sasha Ashall Additional Production: Jordan Bass and Lala Rasor Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Powered by half a glass of Hibiki, it’s time for Dave to go toe to toe with the latest listener questions plucked from the Majordomo Media Discord—and tonight, he’s determined to take down the Picnic Industrial Complex once and for all. Also swept up in the battle: sleeping in the goal at soccer practice, admitting to being a lurker on your own Discord server, eating in bed vs. eating outside, catching Dave glamping, mayonnaise-based salads, picking the locks at vacation homes, making Caesar dressing with fish sauce, dipping French fries in your Frosty, shopping-cart shot put, and the outlandish action-movie understanding of how people eat Chinese food. Hosts: Dave Chang and Chris Ying Producer: Sasha Ashall Additional Production: Jordan Bass and Lala Rasor Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Dave and Chris call up Sean Evans, the hot-sauce-hardened host of 17 seasons of 'Hot Ones,' to find out exactly how he puts together one of the best interview shows out there. Discussed: disarming your guests with pain, believing in the show before it caught on, rappelling down a waterfall with Bear Grylls, the preternatural serenity of Lorde, the Dave Grohl approach, Japanese game show levels of sadism, the 'Quiz Show' ripple effect, Sean’s post-wing ritual, the ranch-dressing gambit, and pondering the next frontiers of hot sauce. Hosts: Dave Chang and Chris Ying Guest: Sean Evans Producer: Sasha Ashall Additional Production: Jordan Bass and Lala Rasor Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

It’s the end of a revelatory month on the Wheel of Constraint, and our hosts have convened to assess their achievements, consider some potentially transcendental spins on the challenge, and celebrate very nearly making it through—but not before wrestling with a potentially life-threatening Discord debate. Also: Milk Bar ice cream, Dave’s duplicate-shirt strategy, going all in on dinner, recipes that require a fire extinguisher, the Arrakis approach to rice making, bringing your own mini-burritos to a restaurant, the beauty of Jamaican food, and a three-way takeout banquet featuring the very best their downtown L.A. delivery radius has to offer. Hosts: Dave Chang and Chris Ying Guest: Noelle Cornelio Producer: Sasha Ashall Additional Production: Jordan Bass and Lala Rasor Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

After a debrief on the ups and downs of Dave’s first tour of dad duty at the Happiest Place on Earth, Dave and Chris call up Domee Shi, the director of Pixar’s latest release, to hear about how her new film came together. Discussed: Dole Whip, Toronto Chinatowns, the emotions inspired by boy bands, early 2000s nostalgia, getting kicked out of boarding school, eel fried rice, art-directing pork slices, the Pixar development method, drawing vs. cooking, art review stank face, how to pronounce “Ghibli,” Chris resisting getting into anime, Grace’s take on the movie, and betting on the next ride to debut at Disneyland. Hosts: Dave Chang and Chris Ying Guest: Domee Shi Producer: Sasha Ashall Additional Production: Jordan Bass and Lala Rasor Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

On a rare four-mic episode, longtime friend of the show Anoop Pillarisetti lays out his Crescent City essentials before recounting his own recent ride on the Wheel of Inspirational Constraint: a chewable-food-free week of Soylent. Also covered: Andre Agassi’s stylistic legacy, hazardous pistachios, Soylent Stockholm syndrome, the Vegas blip, Dave’s new favorite ice cream, considering being a keto bro, becoming desensitized to the delicious, Chris’s Chinese restaurant dream, the happiest person Dave knows, deli provolone, and the coldest beer in the world. Hosts: Dave Chang and Chris Ying Guests: Noelle Cornelio and Anoop Pillarisetti Producer: Sasha Ashall Additional Production: Jordan Bass and Lala Rasor Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Dave and Chris call up Stanley Cheng, CEO since 1972 of the cookware-revolutionizing Meyer Corporation, for an insider’s guide to the industry and a few sure-fire picks for home cooks. Discussed: a positive version of Hydra, cooking with Targaryen dragon fire, abandoning the cast-iron skillet, the right pans to buy, flat-bottom woks, the slipperiest material in the world, the silicone-coating racket, nonstick’s high-heat Achilles’ heel, Dave’s golf game, and a paternal assessment of the Anyday. Hosts: Dave Chang and Chris Ying Guest: Stanley Cheng Producer: Sasha Ashall Additional Production: Jordan Bass and Lala Rasor Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

It’s Day 7 of Noelle’s Trader Joe’s–only diet, so at the tail end of that experiment within an experiment, Dave and Chris check in on Noelle’s highs and lows. Also: quantifying grocery store quality, tantrums on a plane, shrimp scampi pizza, a dearth of snow crab, and another poor soul entering the Wheel of Constraint’s dreadful grasp. Hosts: Dave Chang and Chris Ying Guest: Noelle Cornelio Producer: Sasha Ashall Additional Production: Jordan Bass and Lala Rasor Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

What happens when the Wheel of Constraint rolls into the City of Second Chances? Dave reports on a weekend to remember in Las Vegas, and Chris and Noelle weigh in with their own wheel-inspired winnings. Also: an erotic ramen photo shoot, honey-butter hot chips, meeting your match at Moon Palace, an extremely delicious rum, what to order from room service at 4 a.m., mortadella penance, some wise advice from Helen Rosner, and a rundown of Trader Joe’s highs and lows. Hosts: Dave Chang and Chris Ying Guest: Noelle Cornelio Associate Producer: Sasha Ashall Additional Production: Jordan Bass and Lala Rasor Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

With Week 1 of their Wheel of Constraint ordeal wrapping up, Dave, Chris, and Noelle might just be close to the renewed food gratitude they’ve been hoping for. But with that gain comes the requisite pain. Discussed on today’s MOIF: drinking from a puddle on 1st Avenue, self-soothing with shellfish, Dave endangering the no-sugar seal, pining for tortellini, new frontiers in freeze-dried food, the military MRE minefield, a perfectly ripe mango, letting go of “the best,” Wirecutter asking the wrong questions, outsourcing the question of life, knives made by swordmakers, and a Momofuku-enabled expulsion of one Master from their Domain. Hosts: Dave Chang and Chris Ying Guest: Noelle Cornelio Associate Producer: Sasha Ashall Additional Production: Jordan Bass and Lala Rasor Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

It’s the only day of the year that stands neck and neck with SantaCon in the cockles of Dave’s heart—which means it’s time for an especially amorous #AskDave After Dark. Among the topics tenderly contemplated: why everything that tastes good is bad for you, eating Mexican food in Northern Virginia, considering a career as a master pickpocket, setting Dave Chang traps in Bristol Farms, the enigma of Trader Joe’s, oxtail arbitrage, grocery-store finger bowls, Sophie B. Hawkins, jumbotron marriage proposals, Boiling Crab date night, and Dave’s heartfelt recipe for chocolate-covered strawberries. Hosts: Dave Chang and Chris Ying Associate Producer: Sasha Ashall Additional Production: Jordan Bass and Lala Rasor Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Dave, Chris, and Noelle check in midway through Day 1 of a monthlong sugar-banishment ordeal, and things are already looking tense. With two meals down and 88 to go, are they prepared to make it to the mountaintop? Surveyed through the hunger pangs: what Dave had for lunch, a NASA recipe taste test, eating cassoulet on the space station, the underground MRE economy, negotiating the terms of the no-sugar program, the Charles Barkley rule, low-grade-sad Chris Ying, Dave gaining strength like Vigo the Carpathian, protein-shake smelling salts, and somehow coming out of this with gout. (Plus: Listen to the end to learn how you can help bring back Dave’s favorite podcast—Recipe Club.) Hosts: Dave Chang and Chris Ying Guest: Noelle Cornelio Associate Producer: Sasha Ashall Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Dave, Chris, and Noelle assemble for a fortifying round of MOIF before grappling with their greatest challenge yet: the Wheel of Inspirational Constraint. Assessed along the way: lemon-pepper bagels, land scurvy, America’s Most Valuable Texture, Dave’s pyrotechnic oven mitt test, the importance of the single-purpose kitchen towel, making Teddy Roosevelt proud, cutting the top of your finger off on your first night on the job, and dueling schools of thought on how to say “molybdenum.” Hosts: Dave Chang and Chris Ying Guest: Noelle Cornelio Associate Producer: Sasha Ashall Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Galaxy Digital CEO, prison reform advocate, and blockchain evangelist Mike Novogratz returns to the show to guide Dave and Chris through the wilds of web3, NFTs, and the crypto economy, and to break down what it all might mean for art, entertainment, and the way we eat. Hosts: Dave Chang and Chris Ying Guest: Mike Novogratz Associate Producer: Sasha Ashall Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Dave, Chris, and Noelle combine their MOIF powers once again, in an action-packed episode encompassing Chris burning his eyebrows off, keeping your friends close but not too close, Peking duck pizza, taking on Big Oven Mitt, flats vs. drumettes, dinner-table privacy screens, movie-theater nacho cheese, the beauty of 'Ratatouille,' the Dave Chang cut of 'Julie & Julia,' and the thrilling debut of the 'Dave Chang Show' Discord. Hosts: Dave Chang and Chris Ying Guest: Noelle Cornelio Associate Producer: Sasha Ashall Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

A few weeks ago, Henry Louis Gates brought Dave onto PBS’s 'Finding Your Roots' for a deep dive into the Chang family lineage—and turned up some incredible stories of intercontinental achievement and Jazz Age entrepreneurialism along the way. Today, Professor Gates joins us to discuss his own journey, his hot-sauce collection, and what they discovered in the far reaches of the Chang family tree. Hosts: Dave Chang and Chris Ying Guest: Professor Henry Louis Gates Associate Producer: Sasha Ashall Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Does wanting to make pizza at home mean the universe is telling you to never, ever make pizza at home? Dave straps on his Socratic sandals to guide us through a head-spinning dilemma, alongside metaphysical considerations of food-photo truthers, perfect-email hell, making your own wedding cake, the calzone-shaped cup of the carpenter, and the worst pizza Dave has ever had. Hosts: Dave Chang and Chris Ying Guest: Noelle Cornelio Associate Producer: Sasha Ashall Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The creator of the captivating podcast turned TV show 'Song Exploder' joins Dave and Chris to explore the kitchen equivalent of demo tapes, the as-yet-unrealized dream that is Cookie Exploder, that time U2 put an album on everyone’s phone, eating like a Buddhist monk, disrobing at a dinner party, what makes great restaurant music, and Dave’s unbroken record of never having watched 'The West Wing.' Listen to Hrishikesh’s dinner-party playlist here: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/6Pxi5QSinRtBvQfselifLB?si=9d06714e63a34cd8 Hosts: Dave Chang and Chris Ying Guest: Hrishikesh Hirway Associate Producer: Sasha Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Dave and Chris assemble for a late-night review of recent meals, the best sick-day foods, and a few different international mysteries. Also considered: the healing powers of mapo tofu, Dave's post–'Hot Ones' death throes, eating beef jerky in Copenhagen, asking for seconds at the sushiya, chicken soup component rankings, Dave's praise for matzo balls, the ham–chicken broth nexus, eating as exercise, and the strange allure of the unfilled dumpling. Hosts: Dave Chang and Chris Ying Associate Producer: Sasha Ashall Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

When L.A.’s Guelaguetza restaurant opened in the mid-’90s, mole and mezcal and all the other treasures of Oaxacan cuisine were a long way from the cachet they carry today. Co-owner Bricia Lopez joins Dave and Chris to talk about how her family helped put their culture on the map. Discussed: where Dave will retire, hunting wild boar in the 1930s, opening a Oaxacan restaurant in Koreatown, eating tlayudas at the Four Seasons, bringing your kids into the industry, Chris’s unwarranted tie-dye skepticism, making mole vs. making bolognese, smoke as a condiment, culinary bullshit detectors, roasting chiles and complaining, and Dave’s chipotle pepper misadventures. Hosts: Dave Chang and Chris Ying Guest: Bricia Lopez Associate Producer: Sasha Ashall Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

We were supposed to record a MOIF, but Dave and Chris got in an argument about the topic. One wanted to talk about curry. The other wanted meatloaf. Which one would you rather they discussed? Well, it doesn’t matter, because they didn’t end up talking about either. This is what a podcast sounds like after our cohosts fight, storm off, make up, and finally record a podcast about their kids being their best friends, flannel pajamas as a medieval torture device, and possibly reapplying to college. Hosts: Dave Chang and Chris Ying Associate Producer: Sasha Ashall Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

It’s the first MOIF of the year, and we’re off to a dark start. Dave laments his own cooking, and searches for inspiration. Also, pizza is great. Hosts: Dave Chang and Chris Ying Guest: Noelle Cornelio Associate Producer: Sasha Ashall Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Night has fallen once again, and Dave, Chris, and Noelle have assembled for another late-night recording and their last challenge of the year: a Christmas dinner draft, with some truly startling combinations landing on the table. Also discussed: what to wear to a baby's 100-day celebration, using crumpets as hamburger buns, navigating Mad Cow Disease, and whether you can set any limits at all on what you're willing to call a side dish once you've let lumpia in the door. Hosts: Dave Chang and Chris Ying Guest: Noelle Cornelio Associate Producer: Sasha Ashall Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Dave and Chris sit down with 'Speed & Scale' authors and venture-capital veterans John Doerr and Ryan Panchadsaram to discuss what their new book has to tell the food world about climate change and what we can still do to solve it. Hosts: Dave Chang and Chris Ying Guests: John Doerr and Ryan Panchadsaram Associate Producer: Sasha Ashall Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Dave, Chris, and Noelle return for the big reveal of their deeply researched, still-buyable tripartite gift guide, covering all the essentials for the ones you love and the ones you maybe don't love so much. Phoning it in? We've got you. Shooting for thoughtful but not oppressively generous? We've got you there, too. Going for a once-in-a-decade, life-altering display of affection? This is the episode for you! Hosts: Dave Chang and Chris Ying Guest: Noelle Cornelio Associate Producer: Sasha Ashall Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

886 chef and 'The Next Thing You Eat' guest Eric Sze joins Dave and Chris for a scalding plunge into what may be Dave's favorite cooking method out there today: the bubbling cauldron of communal deliciousness known as hot pot. Beneath the surface, though, colossal schisms are revealed—sauce or no sauce? Fish ball or no fish ball? Fancy wagyu or humble, pre-sliced eye of round? Does fondue count as hot pot?? Our panel battles it out until the last bit of butane's been put through the burner. Hosts: Dave Chang and Chris Ying Guest: Eric Sze Associate Producer: Sasha Ashall Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

With the leftover stuffing all eaten at last, and Dave-dismaying Mariah Carey songs already in the air, we turn our minds toward Christmastime. Discussed: wearing Dickensian costumes to the House of Prime Rib, the Dave Chang Grinchification Tracker, anti-fruitcake diatribes, stollen vs. panettone vs. buche de Noel, Garrett Popcorn flavors tearing our hosts apart, making your kitchen look like a Jamba Juice, the Christmas gift infinity gauntlet, and our last-minute multitier frenemy-to-forever-person gift guide. Hosts: Dave Chang and Chris Ying Guest: Noelle Cornelio Associate Producer: Sasha Ashall Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Our first guest ever, the Podfather himself, returns to recall the freewheeling days when this podcast was just a glimmer in Dave’s eye. Also considered: Stephen A. Smith, what makes a great show, remembering Tom Hanks movies vs. remembering notable life events, the perfectly sized dinner table, throwing a chain saw into a hot tub, Jon Favreau’s ‘Dinner for Five,’ Ooni ovens vs. French bread pizzas, the potential death of season tickets, what a 22-year-old Dave Chang would do in 2021, wearing belts again, and burning down your entire neighborhood with the smoker Jimmy Kimmel gave you. Host: Dave Chang Guest: Bill Simmons Associate Producer: Sasha Ashall Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The stars are out, and Dave and Chris have assembled for another late-night fever dream of a Q&A. Discussed: sleep regression, Cajun honey ham, crossing the marinated meat rubicon, Thanksgiving-flavored chips, H Mart oxtail prices, a disastrous scallops purchase, eating breakfast sausage on the drive home, Hugo climbing the pantry like a cat burglar, Sichuan celery salad, bringing your own salt to restaurants, and a late-breaking report from the guy who inspired last month's flawless Dave Chang delivery day. Hosts: Dave Chang and Chris Ying Associate Producer: Sasha Ashall Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The thrilling, shocking conclusion has arrived—Round 4 of the quest to discover the Autumnal American Pie of the Year. But before revealing our winner, we discuss Dave's latest Thanksgiving gambit, a forgotten mother sauce, 14-hour hot-sauce fevers, second-degree cheese-fry burns on date night, flat-earther pie preferences, the limits of the sweet-salty paradigm, making every month pie month, the most beautiful pie Chris has ever seen, the one pie Dave's family ate in its entirety, sugar-acid key-lime alchemy, a buttermilk-raspberry trip beyond the pie horizon, cannoli vampirism, and Dave finally praising the Bay Area. Hosts: Dave Chang and Chris Ying Associate Producer: Sasha Ashall Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

At last, we answer America's burning question: Who won the Pronunciation Bee? And then: a glimpse into Dave's vast Basque Rolodex, a prophecy fulfilled, buying a 14-pound serrano ham from Costco, the eternally unsolved croissant conundrum, dubious expat accents, a supercomputer-fueled rumination on holiday homecomings, Proustian trauma, Christmas in the Philippines, Chris's skin care routine, winning Friendsgiving with a gravy thermos, and Antarctic ice-sampling missions into the depths of the parental fridge. Hosts: Dave Chang and Chris Ying Guest: Noelle Cornelio Associate Producer: Sasha Ashall Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

POIF Part 3 is here, and the gang is in very deep. After a brief check-in with KCRW's pie-contest maven, Evan Kleiman (5:20), we get into our tasters' pie-zonked responses to the mail-order barrage (11:05). Featuring discussion of Dave's sole pie-making attempt, a journey beyond the 'Interstellar'-inspired pie horizon, mincemeat disappointment, eating key lime pie in South Beach, #pielife vs. #vanlife, and Oakland's great Lois the Pie Queen. Hosts: Dave Chang and Chris Ying Guest: Noelle Cornelio and Evan Kleiman Associate Producer: Sasha Ashall Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Dave and Chris welcome back chef Diep Tran to celebrate the treasured elixir that is Red Boat Fish Sauce before embarking on a whirlwind survey of their all-time favorite potluck play—Vietnamese summer rolls. Topics covered: the forbidden fruit of the kitchen, making mortadella in the garage with a buffalo chopper, first-press fish sauce, respect vs. fear on the way to embracing the funk, surf and turf vs. pork and shrimp, honey mustard vs. sweet and sour, the holy grail of no-dip rice paper, ordering head cheese over Instagram, eating alfalfa sprouts on the commune, and the Gene Hackman of flavors. Hosts: Dave Chang and Chris Ying Guest: Diep Tran Associate Producer: Sasha Ashall Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Dave, Chris, and Noelle briefly say some nice things about Isaac on his last episode as the producer of this show (0:00) before diving back into the world of crusty circles (15:45). Hosts: Dave Chang and Chris Ying Guest: Noelle Cornelio Producer: Isaac Lee Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Have you ever been at a restaurant and afraid to order a dish because you don’t know how to say its name properly? Well, so have Dave and Chris. In this installment of Demystified, they call up the Los Angeles Times’ Gustavo Arellano to discuss all things pronunciation. Hosts: Dave Chang and Chris Ying Guest: Gustavo Arellano Producer: Isaac Lee Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

It’s finally November, also known as pie month here at Team MOIF. In celebration, we wax poetic about our favorite crusty circles and learn about the best ways to make pies at home. Hosts: Dave Chang and Chris Ying Guest: Noelle Cornelio Producer: Isaac Lee Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices