Episode 139: IFS, the 12 Steps, and A Way to Heal When You’re Tempted to Numb Your Pain with Ian Morgan Cron

What if the behaviors you turn to for comfort—whether it’s overworking, people-pleasing, or numbing out—aren’t the real problem, but rather a signal from a part of you that’s desperately trying to help?

In this powerful and delightful episode, I sit down with Ian Morgan Cron—bestselling author and renowned Enneagram expert—to explore the fascinating intersections between Internal Family Systems (IFS) and the 12 Steps.

Here's what we cover. . .

* Why we’re all addicts in some way—and how the 12 Steps apply to everyone

* What “firefighters” are in Internal Family Systems (IFS) and how they work to protect us

* The true source of numbing behaviors

* The surprising and liberating goal of the 12 Steps and what it means for all of us

* Practical ways to find a safe person to share your struggles honestly and vulnerably

* How we can all achieve emotional sobriety

Pick up Ian's new book The Fix wherever books are sold.

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If you enjoyed this episode, you'll love:

• Episode 108: Inside Out—Internal Family Systems, Therapy, and High-Performing Protectors with Jenna Riemersma

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Music by Andy Luiten

Sound editing by Kelly Kramarik

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