
The Best Ever CRE Show
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JF 4236: Private Credit, Cannabis Real Estate and Yield Investing ft. Chris Reece
JF 4235: Fund Managers, Portfolio Deals and Capital Growth ft. George Salas
JF 4234: CRE Recession, Inflation Trends and Investment Strategy ft. Anna Kelley
JF 4233: Affordable Housing, Deal Flow and Mobile Home Park Strategy ft. Leo Young
JF 4232: Real Estate Debt Investing and Exploiting Inefficiencies in the Debt Markets ft. Fred Moskowitz
JF 4231: Economic trends, Market conditions, and Investment Opportunities in 2026 ft. John Chang
JF 4230: Ground Leases, Deal Discipline and CRE Longevity ft. John McNellis
JF 4229: Growing $20 Million Revenue E-commerce and Value-Driven Lead Magnets ft. Brent Neely
JF 4228: Leveraging Your Personality to Scale Your Business with Matt Faircloth
JF4227: RV Park Underwriting, Multiple Revenue Streams and Deal Analysis ft. Heather Blankenship
JF 4226: Building an Audience and Why Most Content Marketing Fails to Get Qualified Investors
JF 4225: Transforming traditional insurance, Stacking risk management, and How a Disruptive Insurance Model Could Save CRE Investors Millions, ft. Nicolas Lares
JF 4224: Supply and Demand, Bootstrapping Growth, Marketplace Strategy ft. Steve Taylor
JF 4223: Ratio Metrics, Lead Quality and Scaling Capital Raising with Richard McGirr
JF 4222: Preparing Your Business for AI Agents, CRM Systems and Data Strategy with Richard McGirr
JF 4221: From Federal Law Enforcement to Real Estate: A Journey of Transformation ft. Phil Boggia
JF 4220: The Surprising Shift in Real Estate Deal-Finding Post-2023 Crisis ft. Marcin Drozdz
JF 4219: Investing in Oregon Real Estate: A Comprehensive Guide to Opportunities ft. Jerry Jones

Ep 4218JF 4218: Real Estate Strategies in a Changing Economy ft. John Chang
Matt Faircloth talks to John Chang, where he reveals why the recent slowdown in job creation isn’t just a blip but a signal of deeper underlying trends. You'll discover how headwinds like rising energy costs, war-related uncertainty, and shifts in policy impact real estate markets, especially multifamily. We break down the hidden consequences of slower employment, dwindling construction, and the critical importance of supply-demand dynamics in different regions. Plus, John shares forward-looking insights into how markets may become the prime playground for sharp investors willing to take calculated risks now, betting on long-term recovery and growth. John Chang Current role: Senior Vice President, National Director Research & Advisory Services of Marcus & Millichap Based in: Phoenix, Arizona Where to find them: https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnchang/ https://www.marcusmillichap.com Visit trustetc.com/bestever for more info. Book your free demo today at bill.com/bestever and get a $100 Amazon gift card. Visit www.tribevestisc.com for more info. Try QUO for free PLUS get 20% off your first 6 months when you go to quo.com/BESTEVER Join the Best Ever Community The Best Ever Community is live and growing - and we want serious commercial real estate investors like you inside. It’s free to join, but you must apply and meet the criteria. Connect with top operators, LPs, GPs, and more, get real insights, and be part of a curated network built to help you grow. Apply now at www.bestevercommunity.com Podcast production done by Outlier Audio Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Ep 4217JF 4217: From Law to Construction: A Unique Journey ft. Matt McGovern
In this interview, Ash Patel speaks with Matt McGovern about the behind-the-scenes creation of his landmark project: transforming a 200,000-square-foot historic tower and theater complex in Topeka into a multifaceted masterpiece. Matt shares his strategic approach, detailing how he identified unique value-add opportunities and leveraged government incentives, including tax credits and opportunity zone funds. He explains how he structured deals that integrate development with ongoing operational revenue. Furthermore, Matt reveals the strategic mindset that enabled him to creatively negotiate, buy out partners, and align his construction background with ambitious real estate goals, all without relying on outside investors. Visit trustetc.com/bestever for more info. Book your free demo today at bill.com/bestever and get a $100 Amazon gift card. Visit www.tribevestisc.com for more info. Try QUO for free PLUS get 20% off your first 6 months when you go to quo.com/BESTEVER Join the Best Ever Community The Best Ever Community is live and growing - and we want serious commercial real estate investors like you inside. It’s free to join, but you must apply and meet the criteria. Connect with top operators, LPs, GPs, and more, get real insights, and be part of a curated network built to help you grow. Apply now at www.bestevercommunity.com Podcast production done by Outlier Audio Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Ep 4216JF 4216: Unlock the secret to raising capital with a proven de-risked approach ft. Justin Spillers and Chris Lopez
Richard McGirr interviews Justin Spillers and Chris Lopez about genuine investor interest. Imagine transforming your pitch into a compelling, repeatable machine that generates actual capital almost effortlessly. In this episode, you will see a behind-the-scenes strategy that helped secure over 350 investor calls in just nine months, from perfecting four-minute pitches to leveraging paid ads that attracted high-net-worth individuals. Discover the exact steps to make fundraising scalable, strategic, and downright effective. Justin Spillers and Chris Lopez Current role: Chris Lopez Founder of Curtis St. Media Co-Founder & CMO of Property Llama Justin Spillers Partner & Manager of Real Estate Alpha Based in: Chris Lopez - Denver Metropolitan Area Justin Spillers - Minster, Ohio Where to find them: Justin Spillers https://www.linkedin.com/in/justinspillers/\ realestatealpha.io/ Chris Lopez https://www.linkedin.com/in/christaylorlopez/ propertyllama.com Visit trustetc.com/bestever for more info. Book your free demo today at bill.com/bestever and get a $100 Amazon gift card. Visit www.tribevestisc.com for more info. Try QUO for free PLUS get 20% off your first 6 months when you go to quo.com/BESTEVER Join the Best Ever Community The Best Ever Community is live and growing - and we want serious commercial real estate investors like you inside. It’s free to join, but you must apply and meet the criteria. Connect with top operators, LPs, GPs, and more, get real insights, and be part of a curated network built to help you grow. Apply now at www.bestevercommunity.com Podcast production done by Outlier Audio Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Ep 4215JF 4215: Transforming Lives Through Real Estate ft. Kevin Robinson
Matt Faircloth interviews Kevin Robinson as they break down actionable tactics like analyzing zip codes with a focus on local amenities and community trends, building relationships on the ground, and employing strategic financing options like the Homestead Loan methods that allow him to grow his portfolio without expensive bridge loans or hard money. You'll also learn why he avoids traditional LLC strategies in favor of a simple, practical approach perfect for most investors who are just starting out or owning a handful of properties. Why does this matter? Because most investors are playing a high-stakes game with little understanding of market fluctuations or risk, often chasing short-term home runs at the expense of consistent, long-term wealth. Kevin shows that disciplined, incremental growth hitting singles and doubles, not home runs leads to sustainable wealth and community transformation. His philosophy emphasizes that real estate is a tool to lift people and neighborhoods today, not decades from now. Kevin Robinson Current role: Executive Council Member at CEOWORLD magazine, Founder & CEO of KAYJAY Consulting Based in: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania Where to find them: https://www.linkedin.com/in/krobins2/ https://www.kayrmotivates.com/ Visit trustetc.com/bestever for more info. Book your free demo today at bill.com/bestever and get a $100 Amazon gift card. Visit www.tribevestisc.com for more info. Try QUO for free PLUS get 20% off your first 6 months when you go to quo.com/BESTEVER Join the Best Ever Community The Best Ever Community is live and growing - and we want serious commercial real estate investors like you inside. It’s free to join, but you must apply and meet the criteria. Connect with top operators, LPs, GPs, and more, get real insights, and be part of a curated network built to help you grow. Apply now at www.bestevercommunity.com Podcast production done by Outlier Audio Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Ep 4214JF 4214: Unlocking High-Yield Investments in Aviation ft. Brandon Martini
In a conversation with Pascal Wagner, Brandon Martini unveils a groundbreaking approach to income investing. While many associate this field solely with real estate or conventional bonds, Martini's private credit fund offers a high-yield, consistent return by strategically financing the training of the next generation of pilots. Amid a significant pilot shortage, this unique strategy allows investors to potentially earn up to 19% annually, with monthly payouts, directly supporting training programs for thousands of aspiring pilots. Martini shares the origin of his fund, which he built from the ground up in 2020. It's revolutionizing private lending by filling a previously unmet, critical funding gap for flight schools. Brandon Martini Current role: Co-Chief Executive Officer and Co-Founder of Stratus Financial Based in: Huntington Beach, California Where to find them: https://www.linkedin.com/in/brandonmartini/ https://stratus.finance/ Visit trustetc.com/bestever for more info. Book your free demo today at bill.com/bestever and get a $100 Amazon gift card. Visit www.tribevestisc.com for more info. Try QUO for free PLUS get 20% off your first 6 months when you go to quo.com/BESTEVER Join the Best Ever Community The Best Ever Community is live and growing - and we want serious commercial real estate investors like you inside. It’s free to join, but you must apply and meet the criteria. Connect with top operators, LPs, GPs, and more, get real insights, and be part of a curated network built to help you grow. Apply now at www.bestevercommunity.com Podcast production done by Outlier Audio Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Ep 4213JF 4213: Real Estate Secrets: From Ministry Work to Millionaire Success ft. Kris Bennett
Join hosts Ash Patel and Amanda Cruise as they interview Kris Bennett, who shares his journey from working in ministry and foreclosure to mastering the inner workings of real estate private equity. He covers the strategic roles of university funds and syndications, and delves into asset diversification across self-storage and flex space. Gain insider knowledge on the elements that define an attractive deal: infill locations, strong market fundamentals, and high-quality construction focused on retaining quality tenants. If you're curious how institutional owners approach lease terms, exit strategies, and financing structures, this conversation provides actionable frameworks and practical examples. Kris Bennett Current role: Chief Operating Officer - Flex Space Division at QC Capital, Founder / Managing Principal of Bennett Investments Based in: Charlotte Metro, North Carolina Where to find them: https://www.linkedin.com/in/thekrisbennett/http://www.qccapitalgroup.com Visit trustetc.com/bestever for more info. Book your free demo today at bill.com/bestever and get a $100 Amazon gift card. Visit www.tribevestisc.com for more info. Try QUO for free PLUS get 20% off your first 6 months when you go to quo.com/BESTEVER Join the Best Ever Community The Best Ever Community is live and growing - and we want serious commercial real estate investors like you inside. It’s free to join, but you must apply and meet the criteria. Connect with top operators, LPs, GPs, and more, get real insights, and be part of a curated network built to help you grow. Apply now at www.bestevercommunity.com Podcast production done by Outlier Audio Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Ep 4212JF 4212: How to Build a Bigger Investor List and Raise More Capital with Richard McGirr
Richard McGirr breaks down why building and scaling your investor email list is the single most important driver of capital raising success. He explains that most operators struggle to raise more capital simply because their list isn’t large or qualified enough, and emphasizes that list growth should take priority over launching new products or funds. Richard walks through the full funnel—from generating reach through earned and paid media, to creating high-converting lead magnets, to nurturing prospects through email and content until they are ready to invest. He also shares actionable strategies for converting attention into investor calls, qualifying prospects, and using scarcity and consistency to close deals faster. Visit trustetc.com/bestever for more info. Book your free demo today at bill.com/bestever and get a $100 Amazon gift card. Visit www.tribevestisc.com for more info. Try QUO for free PLUS get 20% off your first 6 months when you go to quo.com/BESTEVER Join the Best Ever Community The Best Ever Community is live and growing - and we want serious commercial real estate investors like you inside. It’s free to join, but you must apply and meet the criteria. Connect with top operators, LPs, GPs, and more, get real insights, and be part of a curated network built to help you grow. Apply now at www.bestevercommunity.com Podcast production done by Outlier Audio Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Ep 4211JF 4211: Mastering the Art of Video Content Creation ft. Nicole Valenzuela
John Casmon Interviews Nicole Valenzuela about how the most successful investors know that strategic networking opens doors, but few realize how powerful it can be for scaling your real estate ventures into multi-million dollar opportunities. In this episode, multifamily expert Nicole Valenzuela reveals how targeted relationships and community involvement fueled her $14 million cannabis investment, ground-up developments, and multi-faceted real estate portfolio. Her journey from house hacking to developing multi-unit projects in Chicago unveils the concrete steps to overcome fears and leverage partnerships for exponential growth. Visit trustetc.com/bestever for more info. Book your free demo today at bill.com/bestever and get a $100 Amazon gift card. Visit www.tribevestisc.com for more info. Try QUO for free PLUS get 20% off your first 6 months when you go to quo.com/BESTEVER Join the Best Ever Community The Best Ever Community is live and growing - and we want serious commercial real estate investors like you inside. It’s free to join, but you must apply and meet the criteria. Connect with top operators, LPs, GPs, and more, get real insights, and be part of a curated network built to help you grow. Apply now at www.bestevercommunity.com Podcast production done by Outlier Audio Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Ep 4210JF 4210: Revolutionizing Real Estate: The BTR Boom ft. Josh Hartmann
Matt Faircloth Interviews Josh Hartmann from NEXmetro, who unveils his simple, highly efficient approach that’s delivered over 11,000 homes and attracted both private capital and institutional interest. This episode reveals how a focus on small, detached, single-story homes tailored to young professionals and retirees is creating a nearly recession-proof niche with massive growth potential. If you're looking to capitalize on a stable, high-growth segment of the rental market during uncertain times, this episode is essential listening. Josh’s straightforward, no-nonsense approach proves you don’t need to over-complicate to build a massive, scalable portfolio, just clarity, discipline, and a focus on existing demand. Perfect for developers, investors, and entrepreneurs ready to harness the next wave of housing innovation. Josh Hartmann Current role: CEO & Board Director of NEXmetro Communities Based in: Greater Phoenix Area Where to find them: https://www.linkedin.com/in/josh-hartmann-8a149911/ https://www.nexmetro.com/ Visit trustetc.com/bestever for more info. Book your free demo today at bill.com/bestever and get a $100 Amazon gift card. Visit www.tribevestisc.com for more info. Try QUO for free PLUS get 20% off your first 6 months when you go to quo.com/BESTEVER Join the Best Ever Community The Best Ever Community is live and growing - and we want serious commercial real estate investors like you inside. It’s free to join, but you must apply and meet the criteria. Connect with top operators, LPs, GPs, and more, get real insights, and be part of a curated network built to help you grow. Apply now at www.bestevercommunity.com Podcast production done by Outlier Audio Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Ep 4209JF 4209: Mastering Due Diligence: A Comprehensive Guide for Investors ft. Shane Pogue
Pascal Wagner interviews Shane Pogue. He shares how investigative due diligence can reveal whether a sponsor is hiding debt, legal trouble, or even outright fraud, often hidden behind layers of LLCs and international jurisdiction. You’ll discover how to identify red flags like inconsistent income, suspicious business structures, or undisclosed legal battles that can spell disaster and how you can practically get started, even with a modest investment. Shane breaks down the often-overlooked aspects of legal background searches, property risk analysis, and the power of aggregate data to predict potential failures before you wire the funds. Pascal Wagner's interview with Shane Pogue explores the critical role of investigative due diligence in uncovering hidden risks associated with sponsors. Pogue details how to detect issues such as undisclosed debt, legal complications, or outright fraud, which are frequently concealed through complex layers of LLCs and international jurisdictions. Shane Pogue Current role: Founder of Aegis Risk Solutions and Investigations, Due Diligence Consultant at Fidelity Investments Based in: Dallas-Fort Worth Metroplex Where to find them: https://www.linkedin.com/in/shane-pogue-6b900a11a/ https://www.aegisrsi.com/ Visit trustetc.com/bestever for more info. Book your free demo today at bill.com/bestever and get a $100 Amazon gift card. Visit www.tribevestisc.com for more info. Try QUO for free PLUS get 20% off your first 6 months when you go to quo.com/BESTEVER Join the Best Ever Community The Best Ever Community is live and growing - and we want serious commercial real estate investors like you inside. It’s free to join, but you must apply and meet the criteria. Connect with top operators, LPs, GPs, and more, get real insights, and be part of a curated network built to help you grow. Apply now at www.bestevercommunity.com Podcast production done by Outlier Audio Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Ep 4208JF 4208: The Real Truth About Self-Storage Profits Nobody Tells You ft. Alex Pardo
Ash Patel & Amanda Cruise interview Alex Pardo, an industry insider who’s been in the trenches for over 20 years. In this eye-opening episode, Alex dispels common myths, revealing why true success isn’t about chasing shiny deals or rapid scaling but about strategic, value-driven relationships and market intelligence. If you've ever wondered how to navigate fierce competition, avoid overbuilding pitfalls, or structure deals that genuinely serve your long-term goals, this conversation is your blueprint. You’ll discover why cash flow is just part of the story, and why liquidation events and market timing often fuel the biggest gains. Alex shares candid lessons from his own rollercoaster journey from battling break-ins in rough markets to selling facilities at significant profit, highlighting the realities most industry “gurus” won’t tell you. Alex Pardo Current role: Storage Coach at Storage Wins Coaching Community, Co-Founder at ASCEND Based in: Miami, Florida Where to find them: https://www.youtube.com/alexpardo https://alexpardo.com/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/alex-pardo/ Visit trustetc.com/bestever for more info. Book your free demo today at bill.com/bestever and get a $100 Amazon gift card. Visit www.tribevestisc.com for more info. Try QUO for free PLUS get 20% off your first 6 months when you go to quo.com/BESTEVER Join the Best Ever Community The Best Ever Community is live and growing - and we want serious commercial real estate investors like you inside. It’s free to join, but you must apply and meet the criteria. Connect with top operators, LPs, GPs, and more, get real insights, and be part of a curated network built to help you grow. Apply now at www.bestevercommunity.com Podcast production done by Outlier Audio Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Ep 4207JF 4207: Mastering Real Estate Deals: A Comprehensive Guide ft. Kevin Amolsch
Richard McGirr interviews Kevin Amolsch, who shares how sponsorships and strategic partnerships have catapulted Pine Financial Group from a small operation to managing hundreds of millions in assets. You’ll discover how hosting webinars, sponsorships, and leveraging well-known brands creates instant credibility, making investors and borrowers eager to work with you. Kevin dives into the stories behind his first $100,000 deal, sponsoring real estate meetings, running online webinars, and using third-party validation to accelerate growth, and explains why content, trust, and relationships beat cold outreach every time. Kevin Amolsch Current role: President of Pine Financial Group Based in: Wheat Ridge, Colorado Where to find them: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevinamolsch/ https://www.pinefinancialgroup.com/ Visit trustetc.com/bestever for more info. Book your free demo today at bill.com/bestever and get a $100 Amazon gift card. Visit www.tribevestisc.com for more info. Try QUO for free PLUS get 20% off your first 6 months when you go to quo.com/BESTEVER Join the Best Ever Community The Best Ever Community is live and growing - and we want serious commercial real estate investors like you inside. It’s free to join, but you must apply and meet the criteria. Connect with top operators, LPs, GPs, and more, get real insights, and be part of a curated network built to help you grow. Apply now at www.bestevercommunity.com Podcast production done by Outlier Audio Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Ep 4206JF 4206: From Passive Income to Active Investing: A Real Estate Revolution ft. Jamie Thiel
John Casmon interviews Jamie Thiel. Jamie reveals why she transitioned from LP investing to becoming a full-fledged GP and how her background in commercial roofing gave her a unique edge in due diligence and property analysis. She discusses her first mixed-use deal, the costly lessons she learned about inspections and tenant challenges. If you're tired of generic advice and ready to learn how everyday investors are building wealth in multi-family real estate, this episode is your blueprint. Jamie’s real-world stories and actionable insights will challenge your assumptions and inspire your next move. Perfect for aspiring investors, busy professionals looking to diversify, and anyone eager to master the fundamentals of profitable real estate investing this is the episode that can change your financial future. Jamie Thiel Current role: Principal Owner of A-List Ventures, LLC Commercial Account Representative at HKC Roofing & Sheet Metal Based in: Cincinnati, Ohio Where to find them: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jamie-thiel-7b31291/ https://brianluebben.com/ Visit trustetc.com/bestever for more info. Book your free demo today at bill.com/bestever and get a $100 Amazon gift card. Visit www.tribevestisc.com for more info. Try QUO for free PLUS get 20% off your first 6 months when you go to quo.com/BESTEVER Join the Best Ever Community The Best Ever Community is live and growing - and we want serious commercial real estate investors like you inside. It’s free to join, but you must apply and meet the criteria. Connect with top operators, LPs, GPs, and more, get real insights, and be part of a curated network built to help you grow. Apply now at www.bestevercommunity.com Podcast production done by Outlier Audio Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Ep 4205JF 4205: Living the Dream Life: How to Balance Success and Adventure ft. Brian Luebben
Matt Faircloth interviews Brian Luebben. He shares how he transitioned from the corporate grind to creating a life centered around experiences, purpose, and giving back. You'll uncover his approach to balancing achievement with fulfillment, including why he's passionate about boutique hotels and experiential investments that reflect his unique style plus the lessons he’s learned about scaling without sacrificing pleasure. Brian breaks down his "game of millions," the importance of defining your three-year vision, and how to develop a relationship with money that prioritizes fun over obsession. Brian Luebben Current role: CEO/Founder of Action Academy Based in: Austin, Texas Where to find them: https://www.linkedin.com/in/brianluebben/ https://brianluebben.com/ Visit trustetc.com/bestever for more info. Book your free demo today at bill.com/bestever and get a $100 Amazon gift card. Visit www.tribevestisc.com for more info. Try QUO for free PLUS get 20% off your first 6 months when you go to quo.com/BESTEVER Join the Best Ever Community The Best Ever Community is live and growing - and we want serious commercial real estate investors like you inside. It’s free to join, but you must apply and meet the criteria. Connect with top operators, LPs, GPs, and more, get real insights, and be part of a curated network built to help you grow. Apply now at www.bestevercommunity.com Podcast production done by Outlier Audio Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Ep 4204JF 4204: The Art of Asset Management: Lessons from the Field ft. Gary Lipsky
Pascal Wagner interviews Gary Lipsky about rising interest rates that are thickening the market, causing fewer deals to hit the shelves but creating a golden window for strategic investors. Gary breaks down the real impact of interest rate hikes, market absorption, and the increasing influence of geopolitical factors like deportations plus what these mean for property valuations and rental demand. You’ll discover how sophisticated operators are navigating the complexities of financing, balancing asset management, and making tough decisions like capital calls, all while maintaining operational excellence. Gary Lipsky Current role: President/CEO of Break of Day Capital Based in: Manhattan Beach, California Where to find them: hhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/gary-lipsky/ http://www.BreakofDayCapital.com Visit trustetc.com/bestever for more info. Book your free demo today at bill.com/bestever and get a $100 Amazon gift card. Visit www.tribevestisc.com for more info. Try QUO for free PLUS get 20% off your first 6 months when you go to quo.com/BESTEVER Join the Best Ever Community The Best Ever Community is live and growing - and we want serious commercial real estate investors like you inside. It’s free to join, but you must apply and meet the criteria. Connect with top operators, LPs, GPs, and more, get real insights, and be part of a curated network built to help you grow. Apply now at www.bestevercommunity.com Podcast production done by Outlier Audio Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Ep 4203JF 4203: From Flips to Fortune: A Real Estate Journey ft. J Scott
Ash Patel & Amanda Cruise interview J Scott to discuss the shift from multifamily to ground-up development, building a high-caliber development stack, and how to educate investors about the risks and timing of development projects. They dive into Jay’s 351-unit ground-up project outside Dallas, the mechanics of a HUD 221D4 loan (40-year fixed-rate, fully amortized, with construction-period interest-only), and the importance of aligning with experienced partners. The conversation also covers market dynamics, capital-raising trends (pref equity and debt funds), and practical lessons on holding long-term vs. short-term exits. It’s a candid look at balancing risk, capital, and timing in a shifting real estate cycle. J Scott Current role: General Partner of Bar Down Investments LLC, Partner / Co-Founder of ScottBuilt Based in: Sarasota, Florida Where to find them: https://linktr.ee/jscottinvestor https://www.linkedin.com/in/jscottinvestor/ Visit trustetc.com/bestever for more info. Book your free demo today at bill.com/bestever and get a $100 Amazon gift card. Visit www.tribevestisc.com for more info. Try QUO for free PLUS get 20% off your first 6 months when you go to quo.com/BESTEVER Join the Best Ever Community The Best Ever Community is live and growing - and we want serious commercial real estate investors like you inside. It’s free to join, but you must apply and meet the criteria. Connect with top operators, LPs, GPs, and more, get real insights, and be part of a curated network built to help you grow. Apply now at www.bestevercommunity.com Podcast production done by Outlier Audio Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Ep 4202JF 4202: Dynamo Capital's Real Estate Secrets ft. Caitlin Waldschmidt
Richard McGirr interviews Caitlin Waldshmidt as she shares her insights on the realities of lending to small multifamily and fix-and-flip projects, highlighting why straightforward, transparent relationships trump flashy marketing. You'll learn how to recognize the hidden opportunities during a deal drought, including the value of servicing the top-tier borrowers who prioritize certainty and reliability over price. Caitlin also discusses her unique strategy of staying out of crowded marketing channels favoring conversations, reputation, and deep market knowledge over social media noise and why this approach creates a competitive advantage in a crowded industry. Caitlin Waldschmidt Current role: Sales Manager at Dynamo Capital Based in: Denver, Colorado Where to find them: https://www.linkedin.com/in/acaitlinboyd/ https://dynamocapital.com/ Visit trustetc.com/bestever for more info. Book your free demo today at bill.com/bestever and get a $100 Amazon gift card. Visit www.tribevestisc.com for more info. Try QUO for free PLUS get 20% off your first 6 months when you go to quo.com/BESTEVER Join the Best Ever Community The Best Ever Community is live and growing - and we want serious commercial real estate investors like you inside. It’s free to join, but you must apply and meet the criteria. Connect with top operators, LPs, GPs, and more, get real insights, and be part of a curated network built to help you grow. Apply now at www.bestevercommunity.com Podcast production done by Outlier Audio Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Ep 4201JF 4201: The Five-Year CRE Outlook, AI Disruption and Market Risks with John Chang
John Chang shares his five-year outlook for commercial real estate and reflects on the future forces that could shape the industry. He explains how AI, geopolitical uncertainty, and stock market valuations may influence economic growth, investor behavior, and commercial real estate demand. Chang also breaks down sector-specific expectations, noting that multifamily may offer strong opportunities at today’s repriced valuations, while office and industrial will likely remain more selective and market dependent. He concludes that despite economic and political uncertainty, commercial real estate may outperform stocks over the next five to ten years for investors who buy assets in today’s market conditions. Visit trustetc.com/bestever for more info. Book your free demo today at bill.com/bestever and get a $100 Amazon gift card. Visit www.tribevestisc.com for more info. Try QUO for free PLUS get 20% off your first 6 months when you go to quo.com/BESTEVER Join the Best Ever Community The Best Ever Community is live and growing - and we want serious commercial real estate investors like you inside. It’s free to join, but you must apply and meet the criteria. Connect with top operators, LPs, GPs, and more, get real insights, and be part of a curated network built to help you grow. Apply now at www.bestevercommunity.com Podcast production done by Outlier Audio Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Ep 4200JF 4200: EV Charging as a Multifamily Amenity, Financing Infrastructure and Future-Proofing Assets ft. Ben Kanner
John Casmon interviews Ben Kanner, founder of Three V Infrastructure, about the growing intersection between EV charging and multifamily real estate. Ben shares his journey from subprime mortgages to Deutsche Bank portfolio management and eventually into renewable infrastructure, where he identified a major financing gap in EV charging for commercial properties. He explains why EV charging should be viewed primarily as an amenity rather than a direct NOI driver and how operators can use it to attract higher-income renters, increase rents, and reduce turnover. Ben breaks down EV adoption trends, noting that while U.S. penetration still trails global markets, adoption continues to rise—especially with more affordable EV models and a wave of used Teslas entering the market. For multifamily owners, the key isn’t just installation, but proper underwriting based on EV registration data, demographic trends, and projected utilization. Three V Infrastructure offers a no-upfront-cost model where they fund, install, own, and manage the chargers, taking utilization risk and only profit-sharing after recouping their capital and a threshold return. Ben KannerCurrent role: Founder, Three V InfrastructureBased in: Bay Area, California Where to find Ben Email: [email protected] Website: https://www.3vinfrastructure.com Visit trustetc.com/bestever for more info. Book your free demo today at bill.com/bestever and get a $100 Amazon gift card. Visit www.tribevestisc.com for more info. Try QUO for free PLUS get 20% off your first 6 months when you go to quo.com/BESTEVER Join the Best Ever Community The Best Ever Community is live and growing - and we want serious commercial real estate investors like you inside. It’s free to join, but you must apply and meet the criteria. Connect with top operators, LPs, GPs, and more, get real insights, and be part of a curated network built to help you grow. Apply now at www.bestevercommunity.com Podcast production done by Outlier Audio Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Ep 4199JF 4199: The Office as a Service: Third-Party Management and the Future of CRE ft. Matt Faupel
Matt Faircloth interviews Matt Faupel about how most commercial real estate investors overlook one of the most dynamic and resilient asset classes: office space. In this eye-opening episode, Matt Faupel from Cushman & Wakefield reveals how the future of office management is being revolutionized by cutting-edge tools, including AI, and why understanding the nuances of this market can unlock hidden value and protect your investments. Imagine transforming your approach to office management with insights that go beyond traditional strategies covering everything from security protocols for C-suite safety to the incredible potential of AI in diagnostics and predictive maintenance. Matt shares real-world stories, from bullet holes to animal intrusions, illustrating why proactive management and emergency preparedness can save millions and ensure tenant retention in an ever-evolving landscape. Matt Faupel Current role: Founder of Faupelx, Sr. Property Manager at Cushman & Wakefield Based in: Greater St. Louis Where to find them: https://www.faupelx.com/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/faupelm/ Visit https://www.trustetc.com/ for more info. Book your free demo today at bill.com/bestever and get a $100 Amazon gift card. Visit www.tribevestisc.com for more info. Try QUO for free PLUS get 20% off your first 6 months when you go to quo.com/BESTEVER Join the Best Ever Community The Best Ever Community is live and growing - and we want serious commercial real estate investors like you inside. It’s free to join, but you must apply and meet the criteria. Connect with top operators, LPs, GPs, and more, get real insights, and be part of a curated network built to help you grow. Apply now at www.bestevercommunity.com Podcast production done by Outlier Audio Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Ep 4198JF 4198: Navigating Macro Trends in Real Estate ft. Judd Dunning
Pascal Wagner interviews Judd Dunning, who breaks down how American small and mid-cap businesses can leverage sale-leaseback deals to unlock 100% financing, grow their brands, and create win-win outcomes. He shares behind-the-scenes insights from closing billion-dollar deals with Deutsche Bank, the secret advantages of cost segregation accelerated depreciation, and why AI is transforming underwriting cutting days into minutes. You’ll discover the key red flags to avoid, how to assess customer concentration risks, and why on-shoring and supply chain shifts are fueling a new industrial boom. Judd Dunning Current role: President at DWG Capital Partners Based in: Los Angeles, California, Where to find them: https://dwg-re.com/our-team/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/judd-dunning/ Visit trustetc.com/bestever for more info. Book your free demo today at bill.com/bestever and get a $100 Amazon gift card. Visit www.tribevestisc.com for more info. Try QUO for free PLUS get 20% off your first 6 months when you go to quo.com/BESTEVER Join the Best Ever Community The Best Ever Community is live and growing - and we want serious commercial real estate investors like you inside. It’s free to join, but you must apply and meet the criteria. Connect with top operators, LPs, GPs, and more, get real insights, and be part of a curated network built to help you grow. Apply now at www.bestevercommunity.com Podcast production done by Outlier Audio Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Ep 4197JF 4197: How Living in a Mobile Home Park Accelerated My Entrepreneurial Success ft. Ryan Narus
Ash Patel & Amanda Cruise interviews Ryan Narus as he shares his journey from a middle-class upbringing and a $60,000 MBA to the founder of a multimillion-dollar mobile home park portfolio. He explains why traditional education and slow, safe growth often limit entrepreneurs and how living in a mobile home park, teaching himself Spanish, and doing what's uncomfortable can accelerate learning and grit. You'll discover the importance of trailblazing, the power of doing things no one else will, and why being David versus Goliath has its advantages in today’s evolving real estate landscape. Most entrepreneurs are told to follow the conventional path, get that MBA, rent their own apartment, build a business step-by-step. But what if the secret to massive success is doing the opposite? Ryan Narus reveals how living in mobile home parks, learning skills the hard way, and taking unconventional risks propelled him from near zero to a thriving real estate empire and why this bold approach might be exactly what you need right now. Ryan Narus Current role: Co-Founder of Archimedes Group, LLC Based in: Charlotte, North Carolina Where to find them: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryan-narus-87293417/ http://www.archimedesgrp.com Visit trustetc.com/bestever for more info. Book your free demo today at bill.com/bestever and get a $100 Amazon gift card. Visit www.tribevestisc.com for more info. Try QUO for free PLUS get 20% off your first 6 months when you go to quo.com/BESTEVER Join the Best Ever Community The Best Ever Community is live and growing - and we want serious commercial real estate investors like you inside. It’s free to join, but you must apply and meet the criteria. Connect with top operators, LPs, GPs, and more, get real insights, and be part of a curated network built to help you grow. Apply now at www.bestevercommunity.com Podcast production done by Outlier Audio Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Ep 4196JF 4196: Secrets of Fund Management ft.Tyson Cobb
Richard McGirr interviews Tyson Cobb from Timberview Capital, diving deep into the world of fund management and investment strategies. Tyson shares his unique journey from being a semi-retired orthopedic surgeon to becoming a successful real estate investor and fund manager. The discussion highlights the importance of building a strong team culture. A key focus of the episode is on designing investor-centric solutions, such as tax-efficient Roth rollovers, to maximize returns. Tyson discusses the value of participating in masterminds and strategic meetings to foster continuous learning and business development. The episode also touches on the importance of maintaining a high-performance team and the challenges of hiring the right talent to avoid culture dilution. Tyson Cobb Current role: Founder of Timberview Capital Based in: Bettendorf, Iowa Where to find them: https://timberviewcapital.com/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/tysoncobbmd/ Visit trustetc.com/bestever for more info. Book your free demo today at bill.com/bestever and get a $100 Amazon gift card. Visit www.tribevestisc.com for more info. Try QUO for free PLUS get 20% off your first 6 months when you go to quo.com/BESTEVER Join the Best Ever Community The Best Ever Community is live and growing - and we want serious commercial real estate investors like you inside. It’s free to join, but you must apply and meet the criteria. Connect with top operators, LPs, GPs, and more, get real insights, and be part of a curated network built to help you grow. Apply now at www.bestevercommunity.com Podcast production done by Outlier Audio Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Ep 4195JF 4195: Sunbelt Slowdown, Institutional Capital and What’s Next with John Chang
In this solo Horizon episode, John breaks down the Supreme Court’s ruling on tariffs, the subsequent policy shifts, and what it all means for the broader economy and commercial real estate. While tariffs don’t directly hit property owners, he explains how the ripple effects—particularly uncertainty—are slowing job creation, household formation, and overall space demand. He highlights how weaker migration and hiring trends are creating headwinds in overbuilt Sunbelt markets, while pent-up demand continues to build beneath the surface. John also shares observations from the Best Ever Conference, noting that institutional capital may lead the next cycle while retail syndication capital remains constrained. Visit trustetc.com/bestever for more info. Book your free demo today at bill.com/bestever and get a $100 Amazon gift card. Visit www.tribevestisc.com for more info. Try QUO for free PLUS get 20% off your first 6 months when you go to quo.com/BESTEVER Join the Best Ever Community The Best Ever Community is live and growing - and we want serious commercial real estate investors like you inside. It’s free to join, but you must apply and meet the criteria. Connect with top operators, LPs, GPs, and more, get real insights, and be part of a curated network built to help you grow. Apply now at www.bestevercommunity.com Podcast production done by Outlier Audio Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Ep 4194JF 4194: Why Relying Only on Deal Analysis Can Limit Your Multifamily Growth ft. Mitchell Rice
John Casmon interviews Mitchell Rice about how he mastered the art of capital raising through door-to-door sales, why analyzing deals is only half the battle, and the importance of building deep relationships with brokers and sellers. Discover how he evaluates deal viability using practical metrics like yield on cost, and why understanding local market nuances is vital even when out-of-state investors want in. Mitchell Rice Current role: Managing Partner, Elkstone Capital Based in: Salt Lake City, Metropolitan Area Where to find them: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mitchell-rice-8b38b315b/ https://www.elkstonecapitalpartners.com/ Book your free demo today at bill.com/bestever and get a $100 Amazon gift card. Visit www.tribevestisc.com for more info. Try QUO for free PLUS get 20% off your first 6 months when you go to quo.com/BESTEVER Join the Best Ever Community The Best Ever Community is live and growing - and we want serious commercial real estate investors like you inside. It’s free to join, but you must apply and meet the criteria. Connect with top operators, LPs, GPs, and more, get real insights, and be part of a curated network built to help you grow. Apply now at www.bestevercommunity.com Podcast production done by Outlier Audio Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Ep 4193JF 4193: Strategic Insights for Savvy Investors in Today's Market ft. Liz Faircloth and Amanda Han
Liz Faircloth takes over Next Level CRE and interviews Amanda Han. They share how even seasoned investors are navigating a market of extremes from deals no longer penciling out to newfound opportunities that are finally coming to fruition. You'll discover actionable insights on when to sell a struggling property to reclaim losses, how to redeploy capital strategically, and the critical role tax planning plays in maximizing your wealth. She breaks down common mistakes investors make like confusing tax filing with strategic tax planning and offers simple tactics to keep more of your earnings each year. Amanda Han and Liz Faircloth Current role: Amanda Han: Tax Managing Director at Keystone CPA Liz Faircloth: Co-founder, The Real Estate InvestHER Based in: Amanda Han: Orange, California, Liz Faircloth: New Hope, Pennsylvania, Where to find them: https://www.linkedin.com/in/amandayhan/ https://therealestateinvesther.com/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/liz-faircloth-36783/ Book your free demo today at bill.com/bestever and get a $100 Amazon gift card. Visit www.tribevestisc.com for more info. Try QUO for free PLUS get 20% off your first 6 months when you go to quo.com/BESTEVER Join the Best Ever Community The Best Ever Community is live and growing - and we want serious commercial real estate investors like you inside. It’s free to join, but you must apply and meet the criteria. Connect with top operators, LPs, GPs, and more, get real insights, and be part of a curated network built to help you grow. Apply now at www.bestevercommunity.com Podcast production done by Outlier Audio Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Ep 4192JF 4192: How Central Banks' Silver Strategy Is Reshaping the Global Metal Market ft. Collin Plume
Pascal Wagner sits down with Colin Plume, the founder and CEO of Noble Gold Investments, to explore the dynamic world of precious metals amidst today's volatile economic landscape. They delve into how recent geopolitical shifts, central bank strategies, and supply shortages are influencing the demand for gold and silver. Listeners will gain a deeper understanding of the risks and opportunities in buying precious metals at near all-time highs, along with practical advice on evaluating metals providers. The conversation also covers the potential revaluation of U.S. gold reserves and its implications for the market, as well as the importance of owning physical metals versus paper contracts. With a focus on portfolio diversification, Colin offers strategies for incorporating precious metals alongside real estate and business investments, providing a comprehensive guide for those looking to hedge against currency devaluation and financial instability. Collin Plume Current role: Partner, Guardian HR. CEO, My Digital Money, Noble Gold Investments Based in: Los Angeles, California Where to find them: https://www.linkedin.com/in/collin-plume/ Book your free demo today at bill.com/bestever and get a $100 Amazon gift card. Visit www.tribevestisc.com for more info. Try QUO for free PLUS get 20% off your first 6 months when you go to quo.com/BESTEVER Join the Best Ever Community The Best Ever Community is live and growing - and we want serious commercial real estate investors like you inside. It’s free to join, but you must apply and meet the criteria. Connect with top operators, LPs, GPs, and more, get real insights, and be part of a curated network built to help you grow. Apply now at www.bestevercommunity.com Podcast production done by Outlier Audio Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Ep 4191JF 4191: How Buying Messy Parks with Challenging Features Creates Big Opportunities ft. Chad Freeman
Ash Patel & Amanda Cruise have a conversation with Chad Freeman about how most mobile home park investors struggle with overpaying and navigating a fragmented market where prices skyrocket once deals hit broker listings. Chad Freeman reveals the counterintuitive strategies that keep him hunting for off-market gems, focusing on fundamentals like location, the interest rate-cap rate spread, and distressed properties others overlook. If you're tired of chasing thin deals in a crowded space, this episode unlocks how to outlast, outsmart, and secure true value in an asset class often dismissed as too tough. Discover how Chad's unique approach to off-market sourcing, relationship-building with brokers, and understanding the real risks like wastewater systems and park culture gives him an edge in the Sunbelt and Midwest markets. We break down critical tactics such as analyzing lot rent, avoiding inflated broker prices, and the importance of management turnaround to boost values. You’ll also learn why barriers to entry are actually opportunities and how resilience and volume are keys to outperforming institutional investors flooding the space. Chad Freeman Current role: Real Estate Investor at MHPinvestors, LLC Based in: Dallas, Texas Where to find them: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chad-freeman-90967411a/ MHPinvestors.com Book your free demo today at bill.com/bestever and get a $100 Amazon gift card. Visit www.tribevestisc.com for more info. Try QUO for free PLUS get 20% off your first 6 months when you go to quo.com/BESTEVER Join the Best Ever Community The Best Ever Community is live and growing - and we want serious commercial real estate investors like you inside. It’s free to join, but you must apply and meet the criteria. Connect with top operators, LPs, GPs, and more, get real insights, and be part of a curated network built to help you grow. Apply now at www.bestevercommunity.com Podcast production done by Outlier Audio Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Ep 4190JF 4190: Scaling Capital Aggregation, Launching Trident and Fund to Funds Growth ft. Brittany Barchalk
Seth Bradley interviews Brittany Barchalk, Vice President of Operations at TribeVest, live from the Best Ever Conference 10 in Salt Lake City. They discuss how the fund-to-funds model has evolved from a niche concept requiring heavy education to a more widely understood and increasingly adopted capital-raising strategy. Brittany shares how market shifts and heightened compliance awareness have driven demand for infrastructure, professionalism, and scalable systems. The conversation also highlights the launch of Trident, TribeVest’s new end-to-end platform designed to streamline SPV formation, investor onboarding, compliance, and distributions, making it easier for capital aggregators and lead sponsors to build sustainable businesses. Brittany BarchalkCurrent role: Vice President of Operations, TribeVestBased in: Columbus, OhioSay hi to them at: https://www.tribevest.com/ | https://www.linkedin.com/in/brittanybarchalk/ Book your free demo today at bill.com/bestever and get a $100 Amazon gift card. Visit www.tribevestisc.com for more info. Try QUO for free PLUS get 20% off your first 6 months when you go to quo.com/BESTEVER Join the Best Ever Community The Best Ever Community is live and growing - and we want serious commercial real estate investors like you inside. It’s free to join, but you must apply and meet the criteria. Connect with top operators, LPs, GPs, and more, get real insights, and be part of a curated network built to help you grow. Apply now at www.bestevercommunity.com Podcast production done by Outlier Audio Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Ep 4189JF 4189: A New Approach to Fund Management ft. Brian and Gina Roth
Richard McGurr sits down with Brian and Gina Roth, two successful investors who quickly went from LPs to raising a $1.2 million debt fund in just three months. Their journey reveals how genuine storytelling, strategic-networking, and leveraging your own portfolio can unlock extraordinary capital-raising results even if you're starting from zero. This episode is perfect for aspiring fundraisers, real estate investors looking to scale, or anyone tired of endless chasing with little payoff. Brian and Gina’s story proves that with the right approach, accelerating from passive investor to active capital-raiser is not only possible but highly profitable. Where to find them: https://mynewera.com/ Book your free demo today at bill.com/bestever and get a $100 Amazon gift card. Visit www.tribevestisc.com for more info. Try QUO for free PLUS get 20% off your first 6 months when you go to quo.com/BESTEVER Join the Best Ever Community The Best Ever Community is live and growing - and we want serious commercial real estate investors like you inside. It’s free to join, but you must apply and meet the criteria. Connect with top operators, LPs, GPs, and more, get real insights, and be part of a curated network built to help you grow. Apply now at www.bestevercommunity.com Podcast production done by Outlier Audio Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Ep 4188JF 4188: Diversifying Beyond Real Estate: Exploring New Investment Horizons ft. Sandhya Seshadri
Sandhya Seshadri shares her inspiring journey from being an engineer to becoming a successful multifamily investor. Starting with her first 86-unit deal in 2018, Sandhya discusses the importance of partnering with experienced sponsors, building strong broker relationships, and defining clear acquisition criteria. She emphasizes the value of reputation, credibility, and deep relationships in acquiring deals, and offers practical strategies for managing underperforming assets through communication, transparency, and investor relations. They also explore the significance of diversification beyond multifamily investments, discussing her ventures into oil and gas, stocks, and private credit funds. She highlights the importance of focusing on net cash flow and maintaining cash-positive business plans. Sandhya Seshadri Current role: Founder, Engineered Capital Based in: Dallas-Forth Worth Where to find them: LinkedIn.com/in/engineered-capital Engineered-Capital.com Book your free demo today at bill.com/bestever and get a $100 Amazon gift card. Visit www.tribevestisc.com for more info. Try QUO for free PLUS get 20% off your first 6 months when you go to quo.com/BESTEVER Join the Best Ever Community The Best Ever Community is live and growing - and we want serious commercial real estate investors like you inside. It’s free to join, but you must apply and meet the criteria. Connect with top operators, LPs, GPs, and more, get real insights, and be part of a curated network built to help you grow. Apply now at www.bestevercommunity.com Podcast production done by Outlier Audio Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Ep 4187JF 4187: How Long Term Debt Protects Multifamily Investors During Downturns ft. Dwight Dunton
Matt Faircloth interviews Dwight Dunton, founder of Bonaventure, who shares lessons from building a 10,000-unit multifamily portfolio and investing through multiple market cycles since 1999. He explains why multifamily remains resilient during downturns, emphasizing that housing is an essential need and long-term success depends on financing assets with fixed-rate, long-term debt to survive economic volatility. Dwight also discusses how emotional decision-making can hurt investors, encouraging rational analysis when deciding whether to hold or sell distressed assets. He highlights opportunities emerging from declining new construction starts, constrained supply, and value-add renovations, along with long-term growth potential in senior housing driven by demographic trends. Dwight DuntonCurrent role: Founder, BonaventureBased in: Alexandria, VirginiaSay hi to them at: https://www.bonaventure.com/ Book your free demo today at bill.com/bestever and get a $100 Amazon gift card. Visit www.tribevestisc.com for more info. Try QUO for free PLUS get 20% off your first 6 months when you go to quo.com/BESTEVER Join the Best Ever Community The Best Ever Community is live and growing - and we want serious commercial real estate investors like you inside. It’s free to join, but you must apply and meet the criteria. Connect with top operators, LPs, GPs, and more, get real insights, and be part of a curated network built to help you grow. Apply now at www.bestevercommunity.com Podcast production done by Outlier Audio Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices