
Fighting for Change: The SEND Rally Experience
The Autism Mums Podcast · Victoria Bennion and Natalie Tealdi
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Show Notes
In this week's episode of The Autism Mums Podcast we wanted to share with you our experiences of attending the fight for Ordinary Send Rally at Parliament Square Gardens in London last Monday, the 15th September.
Key Takeaways
Community Support: The rally highlighted the importance of community and connection among parents and advocates in the SEND space, fostering a sense of solidarity.
The Importance of Advocacy: Attending the rally underscored the need for collective advocacy to bring attention to the challenges faced by SEND families.
Emotional Experiences: Both hosts shared their feelings of anxiety and excitement about attending the rally, illustrating the complexity of leaving their children to advocate for change.
Speaker Impact: Key speakers at the rally, including politicians and advocates, provided hope and insight into the ongoing struggles and needs within the SEND system.
Parliamentary Debate: Following the rally, a significant parliamentary debate took place, emphasising the urgency of addressing SEND issues and the need for accountability in the system.
Recommendations for Change: The episode detailed recommendations made by MPs to improve SEND accountability, including strengthening the SEND Tribunal and ensuring compliance with existing laws.
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Transcript
Victoria
Bennion: [00:00:00] Welcome
back to the Autism Mums podcast. Today we wanted to share with you
our experiences of attending the fight for Ordinary Send Rally at
Parliament Square Gardens in London last Monday, the 15th. It was so
amazing to come together with the rest of the community but we just
wanted to jump on quickly and do a short episode about it to let
those of you know who couldn't be there, what went down.
Natalie
Tealdi: It was so good to be there. We know many others
wanted to come but couldn't. It isn't easy to coordinate, but somehow
the stars aligned for us to attend. Please know that we took you all
there with us in spirit.
Victoria
Bennion: I felt really lucky that we could be there. I
don't know about you, Nat, but it wouldn't always be possible. And I
know for so many parents and carers who wanted to be there, but they
couldn't. Ironically, because some of them have got their children
out of school, they're driving miles to get their children into
school.
You know, it's specialist
provision. So. [00:01:00] Yeah, I think
we were really lucky that we had the opportunity to be there in the
first place.
Natalie
Tealdi: It was a strange day for me because it's the first
time I've left both of my children for the whole day. It felt very
weird just packing a bag for myself and no one else. It was nice to
not have to feel like a pack horse for once. I did have some anxiety
about how they would be without me, but I felt it was so important
for us to be there, so I just had to focus on that.
Victoria
Bennion: To set the picture, so I got up at five 30 to
walk the dog. I know, many of you will know, sometimes it's not easy
and it takes a lot of planning to be able to get out of the house for
a day.
We're in Dorset, so it's about
a three hour train ride to London. I walked the dog on the beach with
my mom in the pitch black. First, and then Natalie drove over to us
and then we got the car down to the station and my daughter came with
us as, she's not in school at the moment. [00:02:00]
She's been out of school for a year now.
And it was so nice. When we
got onto the next station, some of our friends joined and actually
one of our friends, we took a moment. We were just talking about how
we actually met in the school playground when our children were
struggling, and she assumed that.
, My son had autism as she
offered to land defenders. Natalie, you'd already met, her separately
at a party. I know. It was just funny that we've been on this journey
together and that we were off to London to the protest there came
some other moms who belonged to Carmen's Fix Send Dorsett group.
So that was great to meet some
new faces. And again, you have so much in common and everybody's
fighting for the same thing.
Natalie
Tealdi: Yeah, that was really lovely.
Victoria
Bennion: Obviously over the weekend there had been some
other very large rallies in London. So we'd certainly had family
members who were a bit nervous about us going up to London, but
[00:03:00] there was absolutely no sign
of it when we arrived. It was a really peaceful rally. It's my first
rally.
Was it for your first rally
too? Nat??
Natalie
Tealdi: Yes, it was
we were there early and as we
walked over the bridge, a few people were already gathered. The
ground was damp and boggy, from the rain, and the wind was quite
strong. But that didn't dampen our spirits. Did it look.
Victoria
Bennion: It was a nice, friendly atmosphere. We were just
surrounded by other people just like us who were all on the same
path, who understood. One of the speakers actually said that. Our
community, deserved an award for filling in the most paperwork.
And actually, if you just
looked around the whole of Parliament Square that was so true because
all of us have sat there writing E HCPs, DLA forms advocating for our
children. It's a lot of paperwork. So that did cause a laugh.
Natalie
Tealdi: It was a lighthearted moment that I think we can
all relate to.
Victoria
Bennion: Everybody there was so friendly people were
[00:04:00] chatting, asking each other
stories. We just all wanted to support each other to support the
rally and you know, ultimately be heard by the government before the
debate.
The rally was more than just
about raising our voices. It was really about connection as well. And
we loved meeting parents, advocates and creators. We follow online,
didn't we?
Natalie
Tealdi: Yeah, that was definitely the highlight for me.
Victoria
Bennion: It was great to meet the autism dads whose
podcast we listened to and also Fiona from. It's that parent in real
life, although I didn't realize it was her.
To start with, she was
speaking to our friend Carmen, and you know when you see her face and
then you, you're trying to place it. It wasn't actually until the
next day that I realized that she was Fiona from, it's that parent
who I follow on Instagram, so that was really cool as well.
Natalie
Tealdi: Yeah, it's a funny one, isn't it? I think when you
follow people online, sometimes, like if you see them in real life,
you think you're gonna say hello 'cause you think that they know you
because you follow them. So it could be [00:05:00]
like a really strange sort of feeling 'cause you feel like you know
them really well, but they don't have a clue who you are at all.
So, like in your case you see
them and you can't place them and you dunno why, and then suddenly
you're back on social media and you think, ah, that's who they were.
Victoria
Bennion: The organizers had done such a fantastic job. I
didn't really know what to expect, but they put out a map to show us
where we needed to head When we left the station, they told us where
there were nearby cafes, toilets, all those things. Making it really
comfortable and accessible for, people to attend.
Natalie
Tealdi: Yeah, they really had planned it all out so well.
I mean, so much work must have gone into it. So yeah, it was really
good.
Victoria
Bennion: And they had such a fantastic speaker lineup. Ed
Davey was there and he spoke and he was really great. The chair of
the education select committee came along, Helen Hayes.
There was former teacher and
neurodiversity advocate, Pete [00:06:00]
Wharmby, comedian and send parent, Alistair Barry was very funny. He
gave a great speech. There were also some younger campaigners, which
was really amazing to see and really to hear from their point of view
the effects that this system has had on them.
So there was Kate Nellist and
there was Charlotte Tall who were really impressive young people who
gave fantastic speeches, immigration lawyer and send parent Harjap
Bangal was there and the CEO of global child and maternal health.
Agnes aga pong
Natalie
Tealdi: how cool was it that Kelly Bright was there being
filmed for a Panorama documentary?
I remember watching her on TV
when we were Kids, I can't even remember the name of the program now,
Victoria
Bennion: I think it was called Teabag, you know, and then
there was that little boy t-shirt.
Natalie
Tealdi: But I think she's in East Enders now, isn't she?
But that was quite cool.
Natalie
Tealdi: She. And Jess from our train group was interviewed
for the Panorama documentary, so hopefully she'll be featured in
that, [00:07:00] which would be really
good.
Victoria
Bennion: It's great to see some, people with higher
profiles there just helping get attention for this issue.
Ed Davey really seemed to get
it, didn't he? As a send parent himself. It was great to hear him
sharing his personal insights and his own frustrations. And I think
like just hearing from him gave us hope that our voices are being
heard.
Natalie
Tealdi: The time flew by and it was soon all over and time
to head back to Waterloo to get the train home. We managed to find
this really nice, quiet restaurant to get a drink and a quick bite to
eat before getting on the train. And for me anyway, it was a much
needed moment of calm after all of the buzz of the rally.
I just really needed that time
to just decompress.
Victoria
Bennion: So following the rally, we were on the train on
the way home. I think by this point we headed off about half past
three 'cause obviously it's quite, takes quite a while. And then we
had children to be back for but after the rally there was a
parliamentary debate, which followed as a result of the petition
promoted [00:08:00] by the special needs
jungle and save our children's rights, which actually garnered over
125,000 signatures,
Natalie
Tealdi: We learned from the special needs jungle that the
debate lasted over three hours. MPS shared their personal experiences
regarding the State of SEND in the UK with Ros Savage mp. Leading the
discussion, many emphasized the lack of trust and accountability in
the Send system alongside heart wrenching stories from families.
Victoria
Bennion: IPSEA published a summary of the Education Select
Committee's report on solving the Send Crisis on Thursday, the 18th
of September. And in it it said that the mps have rejected the idea
of dismantling the sends legal framework and supported calls for the
system to work as it should.
They emphasize that the
solution can't be to remove statutory entitlements from a system that
already lacks accountability. Yay.
Natalie
Tealdi: And that's a really crucial point. The report
highlights a welcome focus on improving [00:09:00]
accountability. Mps recommend that OFSTED and CQC inspectors check
for compliance with the law on supporting children with send and give
lower ratings to local authorities. Failing in this area.
Victoria
Bennion: Mps also agree that the government must extend
the powers of the local government and social care ombudsmen to cover
complaints about the delivery of EHC plans and send support in
schools. So it really is a time for proper action.
Natalie
Tealdi: They also stated that the Send Tribunal must
remain and the government should monitor, send tribunal outcomes to
identify local authorities that repeatedly failed to comply with
their statutory duties. We are cheering for that one.
Victoria
Bennion: Yeah, and there's more. The Education Select
Committee believes the Send Tribunal should be able to issue legally
binding rulings to health services, not just education providers. And
that's a huge step forward for accountability.
Natalie
Tealdi: Mps recognize that restoring parents' [00:10:00]
confidence in the send system isn't just about involving parents.
It's about ensuring the law is followed so that children receive the
support they need.
Victoria
Bennion: Yeah, this gives us real hope for positive
change, but we are not there yet.
Natalie
Tealdi: We feel the rally was a really positive day. We've
shown the government that we will be heard and we will fight for our
children. It'll be interesting to see what happens in the coming
weeks, but one thing is for sure, we are more united than ever and
the flight will continue.
Victoria
Bennion: For sure.
Thank you for joining us for
this quick episode and we'll keep you updated on any developments and
continue advocating for change.
Natalie
Tealdi: And remember, we really wanna hear your stories
too. Share your experiences with us and keep the conversation going.
Victoria
Bennion: Until next time, take care