The Art Bell Archive

Art Bell welcomes Dr. Roger Leir on the same day Brazil announces it will open its classified UFO files to the world. Leir describes how Brazilian Air Force generals initiated contact with civilian researchers to begin releasing documents, including over 100 photographs from Operation Saucer, a 1977 military investigation of UFO activity in the Amazon.Leir recounts the 1996 Varginha case in detail, beginning with a damaged craft trailing smoke that crashed after NORAD alerted Brazilian forces. He describes multiple witnesses observing the military capturing strange beings described as brown-skinned, less than five feet tall, with large red eyes and three protuberances on their heads. Three teenage girls encountered one creature kneeling by a wall, and two military intelligence officers later captured another being trying to cross a street.The most disturbing element involves 23-year-old officer Marco Eli Chereze, who held the captured creature on his lap without protective gear. Within three weeks, the previously healthy soldier was dead from a mysterious immune system collapse. His doctor confirmed the cause of death was never determined, and the symptoms, including hemorrhaging eyes, bore resemblance to Ebola-like infections. His wife was heavily intimidated and all medical records were sealed.

Art Bell welcomes polymath Howard Bloom for a wide-ranging discussion that begins with the 9/11 conspiracy movement. Bloom argues that conspiracy theorists refuse to acknowledge that civilizations outside the West possess genuine power and capability. He draws a parallel to the Byzantines, who destroyed themselves through internal fighting while ignoring the external threat that ultimately ended their civilization.Bloom reveals that Pakistan possesses two French-built super-stealth submarines, each carrying 16 nuclear-tipped cruise missiles with an 11,000-mile range. He explains that the submarines, built by DCN using technology transferred to Pakistan's Karachi naval shipyard, are virtually undetectable by current American sonar. Bloom warns that factions within Pakistan's military feel more loyal to militant Islam than to their own government, making the seizure of these weapons a realistic possibility.The conversation shifts to an emerging democratic movement across the Middle East, with street protests in Lebanon, Egypt, Kuwait, and Saudi Arabia surprising Bloom, who admits he was wrong to doubt such change was possible. He notes that militant Islam has spent the past week using a false Newsweek story about Quran desecration to drive these pro-democracy headlines from Islamic media, highlighting the ongoing battle for the soul of the Muslim world.

Art Bell opens the program with Jeff Willes, who captured striking new video footage of mysterious lights over Phoenix on May 12, 2005. Willes, who filmed the original 1997 Phoenix Lights and runs UFOs Over Phoenix, describes three lights appearing in a triangular formation before one rapidly skips across the sky at impossible speed. Luke Air Force Base denied any knowledge of the objects when contacted.The program then features Nick Cook, aviation editor for Jane's Defence Weekly and author of "The Hunt for Zero Point." Cook discusses the Casimir effect as experimental evidence for zero-point energy and examines Dr. Eugene Podkletnov's superconducting disk experiments, which measured a three to five percent weight reduction in objects suspended above rotating superconductors. He reveals that Chinese-American scientist Dr. Ning Li received U.S. Army funding to develop force field beam technology from similar experiments before mysteriously disappearing from public life.Cook and Art explore the strange voltage constantly present on Art's massive antenna array in the desert, measuring over 300 volts on clear, calm days with no apparent source. Cook notes that the white world of aerospace is showing increased interest in these exotic technologies, while suggesting the black world of classified programs may be far more advanced than publicly acknowledged.

Art Bell welcomes cell biologist Dr. Bruce Lipton, who resigned a tenured university position after an epiphany about how cells are truly controlled. Lipton explains that genes are not autonomous controllers of life but rather blueprints that the cell reads or ignores based on environmental signals. He describes documented cases of multiple personality patients whose eye color changes between personalities, and allergies that appear and disappear within seconds of a personality shift.The conversation covers the placebo and nocebo effects, with Lipton arguing that beliefs and perceptions directly alter biology through a mechanism called epigenetic control. He reveals that when he destroyed the DNA in cloned cells, they continued living and responding normally, proving the nucleus functions as the cell's reproductive organ rather than its brain. Every cell, he maintains, possesses its own intelligence through its membrane.Lipton connects these findings to broader questions about consciousness and identity, explaining that self-receptors on cell surfaces act as antennas downloading an external signal. He suggests this explains why organ transplant recipients sometimes acquire personality traits of their donors, as the donor's broadcast continues playing through the transplanted tissue.

Guest host Mark Fellen welcomes author James Howard Kunstler to discuss his book and Rolling Stone article, both titled "The Long Emergency." Kunstler explains the concept of peak oil, noting that U.S. oil production peaked in 1970 and global production is now approaching a similar tipping point. He details how the second half of the world's oil supply will be harder and more expensive to extract.Kunstler examines the geopolitical dimensions of the crisis, from the real strategic reasons behind the Iraq War to China's quiet maneuvering for energy resources worldwide. He warns that China could eventually offer Middle Eastern nations an alternative to American protection, fundamentally reshaping global alliances. The conversation also addresses the myths of self-refilling oil fields and capped American wells, dismissing both as wishful thinking.The discussion turns to suburbia, which Kunstler calls "the greatest misallocation of resources in the history of the world." He argues that America's economy has become dangerously dependent on building and servicing suburban infrastructure, and predicts significant pressure on this way of life within 36 months as energy markets destabilize.

Art Bell speaks with Peter Cochrane, former head of British Telecom Research, about pervasive electronic surveillance. Cochrane explains RFID technology, tiny radio chips that will replace barcodes on every product, enabling instant scanning and tracking goods from factory to consumer. He describes how shipping containers will soon carry complete histories of their contents, routes, and any tampering.The discussion turns to eroding personal privacy as cell phones continuously broadcast location data and cameras blanket British city streets. Cochrane reveals that the UK has installed over 30,000 cell sites for 60 million people, while the entire United States operates roughly 22,000, explaining the stark quality difference in mobile service. He describes emerging automotive black boxes that would record the 15 minutes before and after any accident, along with police systems capable of remotely disabling vehicles during pursuits.Art and Cochrane debate the trade-off between security and freedom, with Cochrane noting that younger generations raised under surveillance simply accept it as normal. They explore how parents track children via mobile phone GPS, how elderly monitoring systems detect deviations from daily routines, and how the convergence of phones, cameras, and computers into single devices promises convenience at the cost of autonomy.

Art Bell welcomes New York Times bestselling author Gregg Braden to discuss his twelve-year research project revealing what he calls the God Code, a literal text message encoded within the DNA of every living cell. Braden explains that by converting the atomic mass numbers of the four DNA base elements, hydrogen, nitrogen, oxygen, and carbon, into their equivalent letters in ancient Hebrew and Arabic alphabets using the centuries-old science of gematria, a coherent phrase emerges: God eternal within the body.Braden details the mathematical methodology, noting that the odds of this message appearing by chance are approximately 1 in 256,000. The same name of God, a form of Yahweh, appears across indigenous traditions worldwide, from Buddhist and Hindu practices to Native American spiritual sounds. He emphasizes that the discovery does not identify who or what God is, but strongly suggests that life is intentional rather than accidental, and that all living things sharing this code possess a common heritage.Art connects the finding to the Bible Code research of Michael Drosnin and the Princeton Global Consciousness Project. Braden reveals that deeper layers of the genetic message remain undecoded, with hundreds of letters between identifiable sentence boundaries still awaiting translation. He frames the discovery as a potential unifying principle for humanity, one that could transcend the religious and cultural divisions that have historically led to conflict.

Art Bell welcomes bestselling author and physician Dr. Tess Gerritsen for an exploration of disturbing medical phenomena that blur the line between life and death. She presents multiple documented cases of people declared dead who later revived, including a woman who woke up inside a body bag, a man who grabbed a pathologist by the throat just before autopsy, and a patient who began speaking on an embalming table. Gerritsen confesses that even trained physicians sometimes wonder if they listened to a patient's heart long enough before pronouncing death.The conversation shifts to the science of dying itself, including how quickly the brain loses consciousness after the heart stops, the historical origins of the Irish wake as a safeguard against premature burial, and evidence of entombed bodies found repositioned when crypts were reopened. Art raises the provocative question of whether a brain could be kept alive indefinitely with artificial blood flow, a scenario Gerritsen finds scientifically plausible but ethically nightmarish.They also discuss anesthesia awareness, where patients paralyzed by surgical drugs feel every incision but cannot alert the surgeon, and the broader implications of near-death experiences. Gerritsen offers a physician's skeptical perspective on the afterlife while acknowledging that the profound personality changes reported by NDE survivors remain difficult to explain.

Art Bell welcomes Bill Sweet, president of Spindrift Research, to discuss the remarkable and untold story of Bruce and John Klingbeil, a father-and-son team of Christian Science practitioners who spent decades conducting scientific experiments on the measurable effects of prayer. Their tests with soybean seeds demonstrated that prayer could cause over-soaked seeds to release moisture and under-soaked seeds to absorb it, both moving toward a normal state compared to unprayed-for control groups.Sweet explains the distinction between goal-directed prayer and non-goal-directed prayer, which the Klingbeils called "thy will be done" prayer. The research drew fierce opposition from both religious fundamentalists who accused the group of tempting God and scientific skeptics who rejected any mixing of spirituality with laboratory methods. Church groups prayed against Spindrift, members lost jobs, and the hostility grew relentless.The conversation takes a dark turn as Sweet reveals that both Klingbeils died by shotgun wounds in an apparent murder-suicide pact in May 1993, just as their research was on the verge of publication in scientific journals. Art connects their work to his own mass consciousness experiments and the Princeton Global Consciousness Project, reflecting on the staggering power and potential danger of directed human thought.

Art Bell opens with a first-hour interview with Joe Jobe of the National Biodiesel Board, exploring the economics of biodiesel fuel, its 80% reduction in carbon dioxide emissions compared to petroleum diesel, and its potential to reshape American energy and agriculture. The conversation covers engine compatibility, cost comparisons, and the strategic importance of weaning the nation off imported oil.Dr. Ronald Klatz then joins to discuss the alarming Marburg virus outbreak in Angola, where a new strain is killing at rates approaching 100%, far exceeding the historical 23-25% fatality rate. Art and Dr. Klatz examine the terrifying possibility that the virus has become airborne through respiratory droplets, the vulnerability of healthcare workers despite standard precautions, and the potential for terrorists to weaponize such a pathogen.The discussion turns to the mysterious mailing of deadly H2N2 influenza samples to thousands of labs worldwide, the unsettling disappearance of two shipments, and the broader pattern of suspicious deaths among microbiologists. Dr. Klatz also provides an update on stem cell breakthroughs showing promise in reversing spinal cord injuries, stroke damage, and cancer treatment in veterinary applications.

Art Bell opens with alarming reports about the Marburg virus outbreak in Angola, where 213 cases have been recorded with a fatality rate approaching 100 percent, and warnings that the virus may be transmitting through the air. He also shares Australian gun control statistics showing dramatic increases in crime following a mandatory firearm surrender program. After open lines, Art welcomes Dr. Raymond Moody, the physician and philosopher who pioneered modern near-death experience research with his landmark book Life After Life.Dr. Moody describes a new wave of "empathic death experiences" in which bystanders at the bedside of dying patients report leaving their own bodies, seeing the deceased in spirit form, and witnessing reunions with departed relatives near a brilliant light. He attributes the rising number of these reports to changing hospital practices that now allow family members to remain present during the moment of death. He also discusses the phenomenon of terminal lucidity, where comatose patients suddenly become alert and communicative shortly before dying.An emergency physician calls in to share a case where a brain-dead cardiac arrest patient, upon recovery, described how rescuers could not get her stretcher through the restaurant kitchen, a detail independently confirmed by the responding paramedic. Dr. Moody also recounts the famous case of Pam Reynolds, whose brain was drained of blood for 40 minutes during aneurysm surgery yet who reported detailed observations of the procedure upon revival.

Art Bell welcomes Major Ed Dames, the retired military intelligence officer and remote viewing instructor known as Dr. Doom, who arrives with several predictions and a disturbing analysis of electronic voice phenomena. Ed claims a hit on his prediction of a major Indonesian earthquake and presents a new forecast: a massive volcanic eruption at Mount Tarawera on New Zealand's North Island, which he projects for November 2005, potentially more violent than Pinatubo.Ed shares deeply unsettling remote viewing findings about a child's voice captured during the previous week's EVP broadcast from a mental hospital. He concludes that the voice does not belong to a ghost or a child at all, but rather to a fetus during an abortion procedure, a finding he describes as throwing everything he understood about reality into question. Art and Ed grapple with how a fetus could communicate English words electromagnetically across time.The discussion turns to Ed's longstanding predictions about a nuclear weapon being used on the Korean Peninsula and his "kill shot" solar flare scenario. He states that when the space shuttle is forced down by a meteor shower, it will signal the beginning of catastrophic solar events. Ed also reveals that a classified 1981 government project attempted to use EVP for intelligence purposes, hinting that officials sought to communicate with deceased foreign leaders.

Art Bell opens with news of Pope John Paul II's passing, the upcoming papal conclave, and a story about Yucca Mountain nuclear waste data falsification. He then welcomes Charles Ostman, a senior fellow at the Institute for Global Futures with over 25 years of experience in electronics and material science, to discuss the rapid acceleration of nanotechnology from theoretical science into commercial reality.Ostman explains that nanotechnology involves the precise manipulation of matter at the molecular scale, drawing inspiration from natural cellular processes. He details several emerging applications: solar paint and roll-to-roll manufactured photovoltaic materials that can convert sunlight into electricity at drastically lower costs than silicon, carbon nanofiber composites that could produce lighter and stronger vehicles, nanoscale lubricants that reduce engine friction, and advanced battery technologies with higher charge density and longer lifespans. He also describes smart windows that shift from opaque to transparent in milliseconds and military fabrics that harden on bullet impact.Art connects nanotechnology to the energy crisis, asking whether these innovations can arrive quickly enough to offset declining oil supplies. Ostman argues that progress will come as a mosaic of solutions rather than a single replacement, with private sector innovation and patent protections driving the pace of development.

Art Bell opens with reflections on the passing of Pope John Paul II, rising world oil prices that Goldman Sachs predicts could reach $100 per barrel, and concerns over falsified data at the Yucca Mountain nuclear waste project. He then welcomes Brendan Cook and Barbara McBeath of the Ghost Investigators Society for their roughly twentieth appearance on the program to present new electronic voice phenomena recordings.The GIS members explain their transition from analog tape to digital recording equipment, noting that EVP results have continued undiminished regardless of the recording medium. They present voices captured at the Inn on Capitol Hill in Salt Lake City, including a gruff male voice saying "very feisty" in apparent response to a discussion about a former resident's wife. Additional recordings from their own homes capture a woman with an English accent, a voice pleading "let me go," and another demanding "why can't they shut up."Art and the investigators discuss the nature of these voices, considering whether they represent spirits trapped on earth, residual electromagnetic imprints, or communications from another dimension. The GIS emphasizes that their work is entirely self-funded, with no books, donations, or profit motive behind their research.

Art Bell opens the program by reading a lengthy Rolling Stone article by James Howard Kunstler titled "The Long Emergency," which outlines the looming global oil production peak and its potentially devastating consequences for modern civilization. The article argues that no combination of alternative fuels, including hydrogen, solar, wind, or biomass, can adequately replace cheap fossil fuels at the scale required to maintain current lifestyles.Art poses five provocative questions to callers: whether they believe the oil crisis is real, whether Americans can handle this level of reality, at what pump price their lifestyle becomes unsustainable, whether they would steal or kill to feed their families, and whether they support going to war for energy supplies. Callers respond with striking honesty, with answers ranging from deep skepticism about the crisis to frank admissions about potential violence.An organic farmer from Southern California warns that petroleum-based agriculture means food security is directly tied to oil prices. She notes that only two coastal farms remain in San Diego County, and rising transportation costs will eventually cut communities off from distant food sources.

Art Bell opens with discussion of the energy crisis ahead, noting that CNN ran a feature on Willie Nelson's biodiesel following the show's earlier coverage. He reflects on the national trauma of the Terri Schiavo case and reports on bird flu concerns in the Netherlands, genetically modified corn accidentally entering the food supply, and the remarkable discovery of soft tissue inside a T-Rex fossil. A cat named Kane survives 44 days sealed inside a dresser during a cross-country move.Security consultant and former hacker Kevin Mitnick joins to share real stories from the world of computer intrusion. He recounts his journey from teenage phone phreaking and high school pranks to stealing source code from major corporations, becoming a fugitive for three years under assumed identities, and ultimately being arrested by the FBI. Mitnick explains how social engineering attacks exploit human trust, describing scenarios where an attacker gains building access through simple psychological manipulation.Mitnick details the growing threat of identity theft, explaining how readily available public records containing mothers' maiden names and social security numbers make it simple for criminals to assume someone's identity. He discusses the vulnerabilities of wireless networks, noting that war drivers can access unsecured corporate systems from parking lots, and reveals that contest participants at the DEFCON hacker conference communicated with a wireless access point from 51 miles away. He warns that convenience consistently wins over security in the modern digital landscape.

Art Bell opens with extensive coverage of the Terri Schiavo case, expressing his view that without a signed document, the courts should err on the side of life. He also reports on a 7.0 earthquake off Japan, tornadoes in both Los Angeles and San Francisco, rising gasoline prices, and the discovery of soft tissue preserved inside a 70-million-year-old Tyrannosaurus rex fossil. Open lines callers share passionate opinions on end-of-life decisions and the precedent being set.Professor Peter Ward of the University of Washington joins to discuss mass extinctions and climate change. He explains that the greatest extinction event in Earth's history, 250 million years ago, killed roughly 90% of all species and was caused not by an asteroid but by massive volcanic activity in Siberia that flooded the atmosphere with carbon dioxide. Ward describes the alarming parallels to current conditions, noting that Mount Kilimanjaro is losing its snow 15 years ahead of predictions.Ward addresses the methane threat lurking in ocean sediments and Arctic permafrost, confirming the scientific concern that warming could trigger catastrophic releases. He discusses computer climate models projecting 1,000 parts per million of atmospheric CO2 within 100 to 200 years, a level that would transform Washington State into a tropical environment with palm trees and malaria. Ward suggests that intelligent species inevitably damage their planets through technological advancement, potentially explaining why the search for extraterrestrial intelligence has found silence.

Art Bell begins with a first-hour conversation with Whitley Strieber about the concept of the rapture, tracing its origins to 19th-century theologians John Nelson Darby and Cyrus Schofield. They discuss how this belief system functions as a collective death wish, with adherents opposing environmental stewardship because intervening might delay the end times. Strieber warns that methane trapped beneath the ocean floor and in Arctic permafrost poses a catastrophic threat if released by warming temperatures.Author and mythologist John Lash joins from Belgium to present his research into the Gnostic texts discovered at Nag Hammadi, Egypt in 1945. He explains that ancient pagan seers described two types of alien beings called Archons, corresponding to what modern researchers identify as reptilian and grey entities. According to Lash, the Gnostics possessed a sophisticated cosmology that recognized millions of galaxies and understood the distinction between the organic Earth and the inorganic solar system.Lash describes the Archons as an inorganic species born from a plasmatic surge from the galactic core during the early formation of the solar system. He explains that the Gnostics warned these beings operate primarily through mental intrusion, using simulation and telepathy to manipulate human perception. Their chief motivation, according to the ancient texts, is envy of humanity's capacity for innovation, emotion, and creativity, and they feed on human fear.

Art Bell opens with a review of seismic and volcanic activity sweeping the globe, from an underwater eruption off Vancouver Island to Mount St. Helens producing its strongest blast since 1980. He notes the Princeton Global Consciousness Project eggs appear unusually active, raising the question of whether a major event is approaching. Callers weigh in on biodiesel fuel following the previous night's interview with Willie Nelson, with truckers and farmers sharing firsthand experiences.Geologist Jim Berkland joins to discuss his methods for predicting earthquakes using tidal flooding tables, lunar cycles, and animal behavior. He explains the seismic significance of the Juan de Fuca Ridge activity off the Oregon and Washington coasts, noting that spreading ridges constantly produce new magma. Art asks whether drilling into a volcanic dome could relieve pressure, but Berkland explains the gas pressure is too immense for such an approach to prevent eruptions.Berkland reports hitting roughly 75% accuracy in his earthquake predictions over the years and describes how missing animal ads in newspapers have preceded major quakes, including the 1989 World Series earthquake. He predicts a magnitude six or greater quake for Southern California or Southern Nevada during the summer months of 2005 and discusses how record rainfall patterns historically correlate with significant seismic events.

Art Bell opens with breaking news of a fireball streaking across the Oregon sky and sonic booms reported across the Midwest. Country music legend Willie Nelson joins the program to discuss biodiesel fuel, explaining how his tour buses run on 100% soybean-based diesel with no engine modifications required. Willie describes the environmental and economic benefits, including reduced dependence on foreign oil and support for American farmers, and invites truckers to try biodiesel at his truck stop south of Dallas.In the second half, former psychological counselor Peter Novak presents his research into the Binary Soul Doctrine, an ancient belief found across dozens of cultures that humans possess two separate souls. He argues these correspond to what modern science identifies as the conscious and unconscious mind, or left and right brain. Novak explains how this theory accounts for near-death experiences, ghosts, past life regression, and reincarnation, suggesting the two halves divide at death.Novak connects his theory to the interior passages of the Great Pyramid, interpreting the forking passageways as a map of what the ancient Egyptians believed happened after death. He also discusses how early Christianity originally included reincarnation before it was removed from doctrine in the fourth century to increase state control over the population.

Art Bell welcomes space historian and journalist Robert Zimmerman for a wide-ranging discussion about the state of space exploration. Zimmerman describes the remarkable success of the Mars rovers Spirit and Opportunity, now operating well beyond their planned 90-day missions, transmitting geological evidence that water once flowed across the Martian surface. He explains how Opportunity discovered layered sedimentary rock formations and mineral deposits that could only form in the presence of standing water.The conversation shifts to the growing tensions between NASA's bureaucratic culture and the emerging private space industry. Zimmerman argues that SpaceShipOne's successful suborbital flights represent a paradigm shift, proving that small entrepreneurial teams can achieve what previously required government-scale budgets. He criticizes NASA's Constellation program as overly expensive and politically driven, predicting that private companies will eventually surpass the agency in both innovation and cost efficiency.Art and Zimmerman discuss the European Space Agency's Huygens probe landing on Saturn's moon Titan, which revealed a frozen landscape with methane rivers and hydrocarbon rain. They examine whether the Bush administration's vision for a return to the Moon and eventual Mars missions is realistic given current funding levels. Zimmerman expresses concern that political promises without adequate budgets will repeat the pattern of Apollo, where capabilities were built and then abandoned within a single generation.

Art Bell speaks with Ben Chertoff, a researcher for Popular Mechanics magazine, about the publication's investigation into the most persistent conspiracy theories surrounding the September 11 attacks. Chertoff describes the methodology behind the article, which assembled a team of engineers, scientists, and aviation experts to examine sixteen widely circulated claims. He addresses the theory that the World Trade Center towers were brought down by controlled demolition, explaining that structural engineers attribute the progressive collapse to fire-weakened steel trusses and the enormous kinetic energy of falling floors.Art challenges Chertoff on several fronts, pressing him about the collapse of World Trade Center Building 7, which was not struck by an aircraft yet fell hours later in what many observers describe as a classic demolition pattern. Chertoff responds that extensive fires and structural damage from falling debris explain the collapse, though he acknowledges more investigation is warranted. The conversation also covers the Pentagon strike, with Chertoff addressing claims that the initial hole appeared too small for a commercial airliner.Callers confront Chertoff with rapid-fire questions about molten metal in the rubble, the speed of the collapses, and claims of forewarning. Art maintains a skeptical stance throughout, noting that Popular Mechanics has a vested interest in mainstream explanations while acknowledging the article's thoroughness on certain technical points.

Art Bell interviews Greg Bishop, author and researcher who has spent years investigating the intersection of UFO phenomena and government disinformation. Bishop describes how intelligence agencies actively plant false information within the UFO community to discredit genuine witnesses, create confusion, and protect classified military programs. He traces this practice back to the 1950s when Air Force agents befriended prominent researchers and fed them fabricated stories mixing real data with deliberate falsehoods.Bishop details the case of Paul Bennewitz, an Albuquerque physicist who detected unusual signals near Kirtland Air Force Base and was systematically driven to a mental breakdown by Air Force Office of Special Investigations agents who encouraged his belief in underground alien bases. He explains how agent Richard Doty fed Bennewitz increasingly elaborate scenarios until the physicist was hospitalized, all to divert attention from classified electronic warfare testing at the base.The discussion expands to broader patterns of information warfare. Bishop argues that the UFO subject serves as a perfect cover for advanced military technology because any witness can be dismissed as a believer in little green men. Art and Bishop examine how this strategy has contaminated decades of research, making it nearly impossible to separate genuine anomalous events from planted disinformation. They discuss whether any government disclosure could now be trusted given the documented history of deception.

Art Bell speaks with Douglas Mulhall, author and technology futurist, about the approaching revolution in nanotechnology and its potential to reshape civilization. Mulhall describes molecular assemblers capable of building objects atom by atom, from replacement organs to aerospace materials, and estimates these devices could become functional within fifteen to twenty years. He explains how early versions already exist in nature as ribosomes, the cellular machines that assemble proteins from genetic instructions.The conversation turns to the risks of self-replicating nanobots, the so-called gray goo scenario popularized by Eric Drexler. Mulhall argues the greater danger lies not in runaway machines but in the economic disruption caused by desktop manufacturing that could make entire industries obsolete overnight. He describes how molecular fabrication would eliminate scarcity of most physical goods, potentially destabilizing economies built on resource extraction and mass production.Art presses Mulhall on the implications for medicine, and Mulhall describes nanoscale devices already being tested that can deliver drugs directly to cancer cells, repair damaged tissue from the inside, and eventually reverse the aging process at the cellular level. The discussion also covers quantum computing, the challenge of programming machines that operate at the atomic scale, and whether nanotechnology could provide the clean energy breakthrough needed to avert a global resource crisis.

Art Bell welcomes physicist Russell Targ, co-founder of the Stanford Research Institute's remote viewing program, for a conversation spanning two decades of government-funded psychic espionage research. Targ describes how the CIA program began in 1972 after Ingo Swann demonstrated the ability to accurately describe and influence a shielded magnetometer buried beneath the Stanford physics building, convincing skeptical physicists that the phenomenon was real.Targ recounts the program's most dramatic successes, including Pat Price's remote viewing of a Soviet weapons laboratory at Semipalatinsk that proved so accurate the CIA initially suspected Targ of espionage. He explains how viewer Joe McMoneagle located a downed Soviet bomber in Africa, and how a team pinpointed a kidnapped American general in Italy by describing the building where he was held. Targ emphasizes that remote viewing is a learnable skill available to most people, not a gift reserved for psychic prodigies.The discussion turns to the physics behind remote viewing. Targ draws on quantum entanglement and nonlocality, arguing that consciousness operates outside the constraints of space and time. He describes Buddhist and Hindu philosophical traditions that anticipated these findings by millennia, and shares his personal journey from laser physicist to spiritual explorer. Art and Targ also discuss the ethics of psychic spying and why the program was officially shut down despite its documented intelligence value.