The Art Bell Archive

Art Bell opens with open lines as Typhoon Queenie threatens the Philippines. He covers the Democratic sweep of Congress and poses a pointed question: can the American psyche survive another military defeat after Vietnam? Callers weigh in on Iraq, immigration, and U.S. policy.The show takes an unexpected turn when a caller reports a news crawl about a former British Ministry of Defense official warning that aliens could attack Earth at any time. Art tracks down the Daily Mail article identifying Nick Pope, formerly head of the UK government's UFO project, and reaches him by phone in Britain. Pope, having left the MOD just one week earlier, explains that his warning stems from the closure of serious UFO investigation, leaving the country unable to respond to a significant aerial event.Pope discusses the need for international cooperation on planetary defense and confirms no global agreement exists for responding to an extraterrestrial incursion. He acknowledges being bound by a lifelong secrecy oath but admits there are things he could share that people would find surprising. Art and Pope explore whether UFOs should be assumed friendly or hostile, with Pope arguing that military planning must always prepare for the worst case.

Art Bell welcomes Dr. Roger Leir, a podiatrist who has become one of ufology's leading figures in physical evidence research. The program opens with election coverage before turning to Dr. Leir's work removing suspected alien implants from abductees. Now on his twelfth surgery, he describes extracting a metallic rod from a woman's toe that emitted a radio signal at precisely 30.012732 megahertz and generated a magnetic field of four milligauss.Dr. Leir recounts a recent trip near Area 51 during Red Flag military exercises, where his team witnessed rotating lights on a hillside and later observed a massive triangular craft blocking out stars while flying alongside F-16s at high altitude. A Belgian pilot staying at the same inn smiled and told him all the stories about Area 51 are true. Art confirms the description matches his own close encounter with an identical silent triangular craft.The discussion covers laboratory analysis of previously removed objects at facilities including Los Alamos and Southwest Labs, where scientists found amorphous iron that was inexplicably magnetic. Dr. Leir shares his plans to establish a dedicated institute for physical evidence research, equipped with isolated testing rooms and broadcast capabilities to present findings directly to the public.

Art Bell hosts the annual Ghost to Ghost program, opening the lines to listeners for Halloween. Broadcasting from Manila, he reads emailed accounts before the calls begin, including a woman who saw the ghost of a wreck victim walking up a highway off-ramp and a man who encountered a legless apparition floating across a road near an old church graveyard.Callers deliver firsthand encounters throughout the night. A man in Miami describes being summoned by a Ouija board at a party, only to learn his father died at that exact hour. A woman in Reno recounts watching a solid male ghost enter her apartment, use the phone, and eat a banana before discovering he had no hands or feet. A paramedic from Cincinnati tells of responding to a suicide in 1981, then meeting the new homeowner twenty years later who says the dead man's ghost insists he was murdered.Other stories feature shadow entities in a former hospital room, a basement where every circuit breaker was flipped off by unseen hands, and a man trapped inside a standing cell at Auschwitz whose wooden door latched shut with nobody present. Art reflects on what these accounts suggest about existence after death.

Art Bell sits down with Derrel Sims, a former CIA operative turned alien abduction researcher, for a discussion on UFO investigations and the intelligence community. Sims draws on his covert operations background to explain how military clearances work and why many self-proclaimed insiders in ufology cannot verify their claims. He recounts his own abduction experiences beginning at age four, describing the entity he encountered as having no genitalia, no navel, and no nipples.Sims presents his theory that alien entities employ screen memories to mask the true nature of abduction events, giving victims warm false recollections that hide something far more disturbing. He describes working with contactees who, once past the screen memory, react with screaming and terror. He challenges the notion that these beings are benevolent, arguing their behavior more closely resembles infiltration and manipulation.The conversation turns to a multigenerational abduction case in Pennsylvania involving physical evidence inside the family's home, including a large handprint left in a soot-like substance on a wall. Sims discusses genetic patterns among abductees over 38 years of research, noting that Cherokee-Irish ancestry appears with striking frequency. He calls for more rigorous physical evidence collection to move abduction research beyond anecdotal testimony.

Art Bell welcomes Barbara McBeath of the Ghost Investigators Society for an evening dedicated to electronic voice phenomena. Broadcasting from Manila as Super Typhoon Cimarron bears down on Luzon, Art opens with storm updates before turning to the night's unsettling recordings. Barbara, appearing solo while partner Brendan Cook battles the flu, brings a fresh collection of EVP captures from recent investigations.The recordings span multiple locations, including a private residence where two women practicing Wicca have unwittingly invited a hostile presence into their home. One chilling voice threatens physical harm, while another explains its motive with disturbing clarity. The investigation moves to a mausoleum where a disembodied voice echoes through marble halls, and a concerned female spirit asks Brendan if he is okay after he falls down the stairs. At a pioneer cemetery in northern Utah, a child's voice claims responsibility for tugging on a blanket.Barbara shares her theory that most ghosts are unhappy consciousnesses who have not moved on, and that a person's mental state in life carries into death. She and Art discuss the disproportionate number of children's voices in their recordings. Additional captures from a prison and a mortician's haunted home round out the evening.

Art Bell speaks with researcher Stephan Schwartz about the hidden properties of water and how human intention can alter its molecular structure. Broadcasting from Manila on his third consecutive weekend show, Art opens with world news, a story about a Russian girl named Natasha who can see inside human bodies, and open lines featuring ghost stories and debates over why ghosts wear clothes.Schwartz, a former special assistant to the Chief of Naval Operations and a leading expert on remote viewing, describes an experiment in which healers held sealed vials of water during therapeutic sessions. Using infrared spectrophotometry, his team found that the hydrogen bonding in treated water changed in a consistent, predictable way compared to controls. He reveals that water from historically healing springs at Lourdes and Glastonbury showed the same molecular changes naturally, suggesting a link between consciousness and the physical properties of water.The discussion expands into how these findings may explain the placebo effect and why water has been central to religious ceremony for thousands of years. Schwartz argues that all consciousness is interlinked and that healing may work not through energy transfer but through a shared non-local connection that stimulates the body's own immune response.

Art Bell speaks with forensic pathologist Dr. Janis Amatuzio, known as the compassionate coroner, about what families of the deceased have taught her regarding consciousness after death. Broadcasting from Manila, Art opens with a retraction from a Philippine newspaper that had published a hoax hate letter attributed to him, then moves into a conversation about forensic science, CSI television myths, and the mystery of what happens when we die.Dr. Amatuzio, a board-certified pathologist who serves as coroner for multiple counties in Minnesota and Wisconsin, shares stories collected over decades of death investigation. She recounts the experience of a cardiac arrest survivor who was clinically gone for eight and a half minutes and returned describing a realm beyond religious frameworks. Her most striking account involves a transplant recipient who, while still under anesthesia, correctly identified his organ donor by name and physical appearance despite having no possible way to obtain that information.The conversation also explores how forensic pathology intersects with questions about the afterlife, the realities behind CSI-style forensics, and what bones can reveal about circumstances of death. Art and Dr. Amatuzio discuss whether the placebo effect and near-death experiences point toward a deeper understanding of human consciousness.

Art Bell welcomes climate scientist Dr. Roy Spencer for a first-hour discussion on global warming, then opens the phone lines with a playful challenge: what would you do if you could become invisible? Broadcasting from Manila and filling in for George Noory, Art covers a recent earthquake he felt on the 19th floor of his building and addresses a Philippine newspaper that republished an infamous internet hoax letter bearing his name.Dr. Spencer, principal research scientist at the University of Alabama in Huntsville and a NASA Medal recipient, presents the skeptic position on climate change. While agreeing that warming is real, he questions whether mankind is primarily responsible, pointing to natural cloud variability and ocean heat storage as underexplored factors. The conversation addresses the muzzling of government climate scientists, the limitations of the Kyoto Protocol, and why nuclear power may be the only realistic solution.During open lines, callers share what they would do with invisibility, ranging from infiltrating Area 51 to visiting the Playboy Mansion. Several listeners describe experiences of making themselves mentally invisible to people standing just feet away. The regular caller J.C. phones in to declare Halloween a satanic ritual and pumpkins an invitation for demonic possession.

Art Bell opens with breaking coverage of a 6.6 magnitude earthquake that struck Hawaii, then speaks with earthquake researcher Stan Deyo and paleontologist Peter Ward across a broadcast packed with natural disasters and deep science. From Manila, Art reports on widespread damage across the Hawaiian islands, power outages on Oahu, and takes calls from residents on the Big Island describing shattered glass, shifted homes, and relentless aftershocks.Stan Deyo explains that his Navy-derived seismic stress data detected signals west of Hawaii days before the quake. He raises concerns about the unusual pattern of aftershocks resembling a collapsing caldera edge and warns of potential stress building toward the San Francisco coast. The conversation touches on whether the quake could trigger volcanic eruptions or further instability beneath the islands.Peter Ward, professor of biology and earth sciences at the University of Washington, shifts the focus to mass extinction. He describes how oxygen levels have swung dramatically over Earth history, argues that dinosaurs evolved specifically as low-oxygen specialists, and warns that rising carbon dioxide could push oceans into toxic hydrogen sulfide production. Ward points to growing oceanic dead zones as early evidence that the conditions behind past extinction events may be returning.

Art Bell welcomes submarine veteran Kenneth Sewell and Los Alamos National Laboratory associate director Dr. Doug Beason on the night North Korea announces its first nuclear weapons test. Broadcasting from Manila, Art opens with breaking news of the detonation and its seismic readings, then dives into the geopolitical fallout with both guests.Sewell, author of Red Star Rogue, warns that North Korea possesses over 48 submarines capable of reaching the U.S. coast, making a naval blockade the most urgent response. He describes how even aging diesel submarines on a one-way mission could deliver a crude nuclear device to an American harbor, and argues the president must act immediately to bottle up the regime. The discussion turns to whether Kim Jong-il is reckless enough to sell a weapon to terrorists or provoke an arms race across Asia.Dr. Beason, though unable to share classified analysis, explains how seismic signatures and atmospheric evidence help confirm underground nuclear tests. He then pivots to his book The E-Bomb, detailing how the Airborne Laser program could shoot down ballistic missiles at the speed of light, and why directed energy weapons represent the future of strategic defense.

Art Bell welcomes psychic Jeffrey Wands to discuss his concept of the soul map, the idea that every person arrives with a predetermined plan for growth and purpose. Wands draws on experiences seeing spirits since age six, when he told his mother that her deceased grandmother was in the room. He explains that success and tragedy walk hand in hand as part of this spiritual blueprint, a theme Art relates to given his own extraordinary highs and devastating losses.The program marks a major personal announcement as Art reveals his wife Airyn is pregnant, with the baby expected around his birthday in June 2007. Callers offer congratulations, and one psychically predicts the child will be a girl. Art shares details about life in Manila, including recovery from a devastating typhoon and Filipino cultural curiosities like the notorious duck egg delicacy balut.Wands describes his work with police on missing children cases, his out-of-body experience in Raymond Moody psychomanteum, and his belief that animals possess souls. He addresses reincarnation, explaining that unresolved issues carry forward across lifetimes until conquered, and that the soul operates within a university-like system of spiritual evolution where graduation into higher consciousness remains the ultimate goal.

Art Bell speaks with Roger Tolces, a Los Angeles private investigator specializing in electronic countermeasures, about the erosion of privacy under warrantless wiretapping and data mining. The conversation follows House passage of a bill legalizing the Bush administration surveillance program, with Art playing devil advocate on whether the terrorist threat justifies such measures.Tolces explains how NSA supercomputers scan phone calls and internet traffic for flagged keywords, identifying lines of interest without naming a target. He details how the 1996 CALEA law required phone companies to pre-wire every line for law enforcement. Art agrees to let the government see his phone records, bank records, and browsing history, prompting Tolces to ask what privacy remains.The debate centers on whether the Fourth Amendment can survive mission creep, with Tolces drawing parallels to Orwell 1984 and warning that unchecked surveillance leads to corruption. He cites a case where a library patron researching Islamic topics was seized and had his hard drive copied without a warrant. Art counters that if such surveillance could have prevented September 11th, the tradeoff may be justified, while Tolces argues the real intelligence failures were human, noting flight school warnings went ignored while billions funded electronic dragnet systems.

Art Bell welcomes Dr. Stuart Hameroff, an anesthesiologist and consciousness researcher at the University of Arizona, to explore the quantum nature of human awareness. Broadcasting from typhoon-ravaged Manila where power has been out for four days, Art examines how anesthetic gases selectively eliminate consciousness while leaving other brain functions intact. Dr. Hameroff explains that these gases act through quantum-level London forces rather than chemical bonds, suggesting consciousness arises from quantum processes.Dr. Hameroff presents his theory that consciousness originates not in neural firings but in subtler quantum activity within dendrites, specifically inside protein structures called microtubules. He challenges predictions that computers will match human consciousness by 2030, arguing that classical computation fundamentally cannot produce awareness and that only a specific type of quantum computer could theoretically achieve it.The conversation turns to implications for near-death experiences, non-local communication, and free will. Dr. Hameroff suggests that quantum information persists at a fundamental level of spacetime geometry even after the brain stops functioning, potentially explaining how consciousness could survive physical death. He discusses how quantum mechanics may allow information from the near future to influence present decisions, offering a scientific basis for real-time conscious control rather than the illusion mainstream neuroscience proposes.

Art Bell speaks with Dr. Jon Klimo, author of the definitive study on channeling and co-author of Suicide: What Really Happens in the Afterlife, about what 120 years of channeled material reveals regarding the fate of those who take their own lives. Dr. Klimo explains that his scholarly research examined hundreds of sources claiming to convey messages from people who died by suicide, distilling common themes about the afterlife consequences they describe.The discussion addresses whether consciousness survives physical death, with Dr. Klimo drawing on his four years of privately funded EVP research and study of mediumship. He describes the consistent message that suicide does not result in eternal punishment, but rather a self-directed life review where individuals must confront the repercussions of cutting short their soul growth. Art shares his own deeply personal experience of nearly taking his life after losing his wife Ramona.Dr. Klimo also addresses the fate of suicide bombers, explaining that seances were conducted specifically to contact them since Islamic tradition lacks a mediumistic framework. He discusses karma, reincarnation, and the surprising scarcity of afterlife references to returning for another lifetime, while maintaining that the universe operates as a learning system designed for spiritual evolution.

Art Bell welcomes Dr. Paul Moller, founder of Moller International, to discuss his decades-long quest to build a personal flying vehicle called the Skycar. Dr. Moller explains how the M400, a four-passenger vertical takeoff and landing craft powered by eight rotary engines derived from the Wankel design, could allow ordinary people to fly at speeds up to 300 miles per hour at altitudes reaching 25,000 feet. He details onboard computer systems that maintain stability even when an engine fails, correcting thrust imbalances in just 25 milliseconds.The conversation covers the proposed Highway in the Sky system, where GPS and supplemental navigation technologies would guide vehicles along virtual corridors, removing the pilot from the loop entirely. Dr. Moller notes that even a blind person could operate the Skycar under such automated control. He also reveals that unmanned versions have been delivered to the U.S. Air Force for airfield damage assessment.Art and Dr. Moller discuss mass production economics, with an eventual target price of 50,000 to 60,000 dollars per unit. They examine why American automakers failed to embrace hybrid technology while exploring ethanol as the ideal Skycar fuel, producing emissions so low the engine actually cleans the air in major cities.

Art Bell welcomes Philip Gardiner, British author who has infiltrated secret societies and studied ancient serpent worship across cultures. Gardiner recounts being driven to a Berlin cafe decorated with portraits of Hitler and Himmler, where members of the Holy Vehm, a medieval German secret court, confirmed their continued existence. He describes his initiation into the Knights of the Temple, involving spitting on a cross and a surprising final test behind a curtain.The conversation shifts to snake venom as an immune-boosting substance. Gardiner reports that scientists are synthesizing beneficial proteins found in venom, and that ancient alchemical texts from India describe this practice. He connects this to the Holy Grail, arguing the original term meant mixing bowl rather than royal blood, and that the Grail legend originates from ritual mixing of venom and blood in gilded skulls.Gardiner challenges conventional religious history, suggesting Jesus was equated with the serpent by early Gnostic Christians and that a worldwide serpent cult predates modern religions. He discusses Gnostic enlightenment as possible quantum entanglement and expresses skepticism about Solomon's Temple as a literal structure. Art opens with cell phone emergency tips and a discussion of polar bears drowning due to receding Arctic ice.

Art Bell speaks with John C. Mankins, a 25-year NASA veteran who spent a decade at JPL and 15 years at headquarters overseeing advanced technology programs. Mankins explains how breakthroughs in lightweight thin-film reflectors now make solar power viable even in the outer solar system, challenging NASA's long reliance on plutonium-powered systems for deep space missions.The conversation expands to space solar power, the concept of collecting energy in orbit where sunlight is constant, then beaming it to Earth via microwave or laser. Mankins describes fail-safe phased arrays that prevent the beam from targeting anything without a ground-based pilot signal. He estimates the technology could become cost-competitive within 10 to 20 years, potentially delivering hundreds of gigawatts to multiple locations from a single satellite.Art and Mankins discuss the risks of nuclear materials in space, launch economics, and the stalled civilian space program. Mankins advocates for international cooperation modeled on commercial ventures rather than government projects. The program opens with Art sharing observations from a recent Hong Kong trip, a Pravda report about Russian journalists allegedly cooking an egg between two cell phones, and updates on the Lake Superior F-89 Scorpion mystery.

Art Bell welcomes Dr. Steven M. Greer, founder of the Disclosure Project, who delivers explosive claims about extraterrestrial contact during the Apollo moon missions. Greer states that multiple sources confirmed Neil Armstrong encountered extraterrestrial vehicles upon stepping off the lunar module, and that Armstrong declined a 1997 Congressional briefing out of fear his family would be harmed. He also reports corroborating information about Buzz Aldrin from a close associate.The discussion covers Greer's thesis that advanced energy and propulsion technologies derived from ET craft have been suppressed by rogue corporate and financial interests rather than the visible government. He describes former CIA director Bill Colby possessing an operational free energy device and being found dead the week he planned to transfer it. Greer argues that disclosure would collapse the fossil fuel economy worth trillions.Greer recounts his own near-death experience at age 17 and a subsequent contact event with a non-human being on a North Carolina mountaintop. He pushes back against claims that extraterrestrials are hostile, maintaining that decades of military witness testimony show benign intent. Art opens with a detailed report on the Kinross F-89 jet found in Lake Superior alongside a mysterious metallic teardrop-shaped object.

Art Bell is joined by crop circle researcher Dr. Simeon Hein and Scott Flansburg, known as the human calculator, for a discussion merging sacred geometry with mathematical genius. Flansburg commissioned Hein's Institute for Resonance to create a man-made crop circle in England based on his base-nine math matrix, a grid of digits from zero through 99 that he believes reveals hidden patterns in numbers.The results proved startling. Digital cameras froze when flown over the formation at altitude. Electrostatic readings inside the circle jumped to ten times normal levels, and a video camera overheated until too hot to touch. Hein explains that these anomalous effects, identical to those found in supposedly authentic crop circles, appeared roughly two days after creation. He theorizes that the layered wheat acts as a natural superconductor.Flansburg demonstrates his extraordinary abilities live on air, adding three-digit numbers instantly and counting by 42s faster than a calculator. He argues that humanity has been approaching numbers incorrectly by starting at one instead of zero, and that his matrix represents a new foundation for arithmetic education. The program also features Art and his wife Airyn discussing the Filipino legend of the Aswang.

Art Bell welcomes Major Ed Dames, retired U.S. Army intelligence officer and remote viewing expert, for an update on his latest breakthroughs. Dames reveals that his team has developed new techniques for pinpointing geographic locations through remote viewing, and that several team members have successfully used these methods to win substantial amounts through sports wagering in Las Vegas. He shares receipts and details of parlays worth tens of thousands of dollars.The conversation turns to the nature of time itself. Dames presents his uncomfortable conclusion that all future events appear to be locked and predetermined, based on patterns his team has observed through years of operational remote viewing. He discusses North Korea and its likely nuclear weapon test, suggesting a complex scenario involving Chinese collusion and a potential deal over Taiwan. Art challenges him on whether predestined events can truly be altered.Dames also addresses his predictions about an extreme solar event, genetically modified crop contamination, and his upcoming move to Ukraine. He accepts Art's challenge to remotely locate his Manila residence, promising to return with results. The program opens with Art reporting the breaking news of Steve Irwin's death from his Philippine broadcast location.

Art Bell welcomes investigative mythologist William Henry to examine ancient weapons and their connections to modern power structures. Henry argues the Ark of the Covenant functioned as both a communications device and a weapon responsible for tens of thousands of deaths, with radioactive tablets producing lethal beams requiring priests to wear protective clothing. He traces a lineage from this technology through Heinrich Himmler's occult research facility to a clock tower Saddam Hussein built in Baghdad mirroring Himmler's Spear of Destiny design.Henry reveals that Nashville, Tennessee houses a 2,200-foot-long structure matching both Himmler's and Saddam's constructions, suggesting these edifices encode knowledge about ancient stargate technology. He describes how Egyptian depictions of Ra sailing through gates of stars use shapes identical to Stephen Hawking's portrayal of wormholes, proposing that modern physics is rediscovering a primordial science of interdimensional travel.The conversation expands into the idea that human DNA contains instructions for interfacing with these gateways and that the approaching technological singularity represents humanity's chance to transcend current limitations. Henry points to scientists from major universities quietly studying locations where craft appear to enter and exit luminous portals, suggesting the convergence of ancient myth and modern physics may soon become undeniable.

Art Bell welcomes author Whitley Strieber to discuss his new novel The Grays, drawing on Strieber's own close encounter experiences. Strieber describes the physical characteristics of the Grays, ranging from small ephemeral beings that float to solid creatures up to five feet tall. He recounts one jumping on his back with limbs like iron, and shares a group encounter at his cabin where 17 people independently reported different manifestations of the same visiting entity.The two explore whether the Grays originate from another planet or another dimension, noting that beings from a parallel universe would bring completely different laws of physics. Strieber references physicist John von Neumann's alleged classified paper suggesting that widespread public belief in the Grays' reality could serve as a tripwire, allowing them to cross fully into our dimension. Both agree this door should not be opened carelessly.Strieber characterizes the Grays as neither wholly benevolent nor malevolent but complex, much like humanity. He believes government silence stems from an inability to protect citizens rather than any secret alliance. Art questions whether the Grays' experiments on humans might serve our best interests, comparing the experience to an involuntary visit to the dentist.

Art Bell opens with a brief interview with Dr. Rick Strassman, author of DMT: The Spirit Molecule, who discusses dimethyltryptamine as a naturally occurring compound that may mediate mystical experiences. Strassman describes his government-approved clinical research with DMT, noting that intravenous doses peak within two minutes and wear off in roughly thirty. He theorizes the pineal gland may produce endogenous psychedelic compounds. Strassman departs early due to illness.Art then opens the phone lines for callers who have experienced conscious dimensional travel. A man in California describes sitting on a bench when reality shifted, placing him among pairs of people in quiet conversation, all rendered in soft pastel blues and grays. The beings could not see him, and after several minutes, normal reality returned. Other callers share similar involuntary slips into alternate realities, including a blind woman who saw beings of light during childhood.Art reflects on the hundreds of emails pouring in from listeners with their own dimensional experiences, concluding the program has stumbled onto something significant. He connects the phenomenon to shadow people sightings and suggests that prolonged exposure to computer monitor refresh rates may subtly retune the brain, allowing brief glimpses into normally invisible realms.

Art Bell welcomes crop circle researcher Freddy Silva, who abandoned a lucrative career to pursue a lifelong study of this global phenomenon. Silva explains that genuine circles exhibit cellular changes in plants and soil alterations requiring extreme temperatures and atmospheric pressure, effects he attributes to ultrasound and infrasound rather than microwave energy. He notes that about 85 percent of formations appear in southern England over the world's deepest chalk aquifer, with similar concentrations over limestone in the Canadian prairies.Silva describes how a British psychic named Isabel Kingston began channeling information from a universal consciousness called the Watchers in the mid-1980s, accurately predicting the locations and designs of formations days before they appeared. He argues the circles carry archetypal messages encoded with sacred geometry that resonates with human DNA, functioning as a subconscious wake-up call from beings responding to humanity's collective plea for help.The discussion takes a startling turn when Silva reveals that an American researcher built a replica of the famous Barbary Castle tetrahedron crop circle and reportedly achieved levitation. Silva believes the designs contain blueprints for energy devices capable of manipulating magnetism and gravity, knowledge he expects scientists to publicly confirm by 2007.

Art Bell welcomes paranormal researcher Joshua P. Warren to discuss non-human apparitions and the science behind ghostly phenomena. Warren describes his extensive fieldwork using electrostatic and electromagnetic detection equipment, explaining how fluorescent bulbs, compasses, and AM radios can serve as basic ghost-hunting tools. He shares findings from a Discovery Channel project at Roswell, where high-definition cameras captured a massive snake-like apparition during a seance in Hangar 84, footage the network has mysteriously refused to air.The conversation turns personal when Art recounts experiencing bone-chilling cold in the days following his late wife Ramona's passing, despite his house reaching 80 degrees. Warren explains this as a classic sign of intense electrostatic activity, suggesting Ramona may have been attempting to manifest. Warren also discusses his new book Pet Ghosts, which examines animal apparitions and the question of whether non-human creatures possess souls capable of returning from the other side.Warren proposes that creatures like Bigfoot and Mothman may exist at frequencies just outside normal human perception, briefly becoming physical during shifts in Earth's energy environment. He and Art explore whether manipulating electromagnetic frequencies could eventually allow controlled communication between dimensions, though both acknowledge the risks of opening such a door.