The Art Bell Archive

Art Bell broadcasts a special early edition on New Year's Eve, beginning at 7 p.m. Pacific time to track the millennium's arrival across every time zone. News reports confirm that Y2K computer fears have so far produced only minor glitches worldwide, though a credit card failure across Britain days earlier serves as a reminder that problems may still surface when businesses reopen. Boris Yeltsin's sudden resignation adds geopolitical uncertainty to an already anxious evening.Gordon Michael Scallion joins for three hours of predictions and discussion about earth changes. He describes his mystical experiences inside the Great Pyramid, where a mysterious Egyptian guard granted him private access to the chambers, telling him he remembered Scallion from when they built the structure together. Scallion presents his theory that the pyramid was built 12,500 years ago by Atlanteans, Egyptians, and Darians as a machine for bending time, astronomical observation, and spiritual initiation.The discussion turns to the accelerating pace of climate disruption, record sunspot activity, and the planetary alignment approaching in May 2000. Scallion warns that the next 24 months represent a critical window, assigning 90 percent odds to significant magnetic and weather changes that could redraw maps of the world. As midnight strikes on the East Coast, Times Square erupts and Art rings in the year 2000 with the sound of Big Ben.

Art Bell interviews legendary investigative columnist Jack Anderson, whose career spanned decades of exposing government corruption and tangling with the most powerful figures in Washington. Anderson recounts his decision to investigate FBI Director J. Edgar Hoover by conducting a burlesque FBI-style probe, including going through Hoover's garbage and following him around the capital. The columns that resulted reduced Hoover from near-deity status, prompting the director to call Anderson lower than the regurgitated filth of vultures.Anderson shares the chilling story of G. Gordon Liddy walking out of a White House staff meeting after misinterpreting a remark about getting rid of Anderson as an order for assassination. He details how Nixon's administration deployed the IRS, FBI, and CIA against him, forging a tax return in his name and placing him under surveillance in an operation codenamed Mud Hen. His own children spotted and photographed the CIA operatives watching their home.The conversation shifts to broader themes as Anderson reflects on political elites, media complacency, and the priceless American heritage of free speech. He reveals his belief, drawn from ancient scriptures, that populated planets are linked in a vast celestial society and that Earth remains under quarantine due to spiritual pollution. Art shares his own UFO sighting near Area 51, and the two discuss whether humanity can earn its place among the stars.

Art Bell welcomes Dr. Gary Schwartz, professor of psychology, medicine, neurology, and psychiatry at the University of Arizona, to discuss scientific research into life after death. Schwartz explains his systemic memory hypothesis, which proposes that all systems in the universe store information through feedback loops, much like audio feedback from a speaker or the infinite regression seen when pointing a video camera at its own monitor. He describes how this replicable phenomenon led him to predict that consciousness could survive physical death.Schwartz recounts how his co-researcher Linda Russek inspired him to apply the theory to mediumship experiments after the passing of her father, a distinguished cardiologist. Early studies recorded high-frequency sound anomalies during attempted communication sessions, while a later clock experiment with Linda's mother produced statistically significant results suggesting an unseen intelligence was influencing the device on command.The conversation turns to a picture-matching experiment using two mediums who did not know each other. Medium two, working in a trance state, attempted to receive images from four deceased individuals and achieved a 100 percent accuracy rate when researchers used the information she provided. Art also reveals a Sprint outage report found on a government website listing Area 51 among the affected locations, a discovery that dominates the first hour of the broadcast.

Art Bell opens the show with a startling announcement: all long-distance telephone service to Pahrump, Nevada, has been down since late afternoon, leaving him unable to take calls from the outside world. With only local lines working, he transforms the broadcast into an unprecedented Pahrump-only open lines night, inviting his desert neighbors to call in on local numbers while the rest of the nation listens to a one-way show.Local callers share their experiences with the outage, reporting that credit card machines are also failing and internet service is spotty. A caller who works in the telecommunications industry explains that a switching failure in the local equipment likely caused the trunk lines to block all toll traffic. Art speculates about whether the outage could be an accidental Y2K test, given the approaching millennium deadline.The evening takes on a warm, small-town character as Art reconnects with familiar Pahrump residents, including a woman his late wife Ramona once gave rides to and Joe from the now-closed local pizza shop who remembers a secret olive oil recipe Art brought back from Paris. After an hour of local conversation, Art signs off and sends the network to tape, marking one of the most unusual broadcasts in the show's history.

Art Bell welcomes Robert Ghost Wolf and Dannion Brinkley to discuss an extraordinary archaeological discovery in the central United States. Ghostwolf describes unearthing over 200 artifacts from a buried temple site, including Egyptian hieroglyphics, Celtic inscriptions, Hebrew tablets, and what appears to be a depiction of the Ark of the Covenant. The find suggests multiple ancient civilizations left records in one location long before Columbus arrived in 1492.Brinkley reveals he took photographs of key artifacts to famed Egyptologist Zahi Hawass, who identified one piece as originating from the Ptolemaic period without knowing it was found in American soil. The two guests also discuss the last-minute cancellation of the planned gold capstone ceremony atop the Great Pyramid, speculating that officials feared activating what they believe is an ancient machine designed to harness electromagnetic energy.Callers react with a mix of astonishment and skepticism as Art examines the high-resolution photographs posted on his website. Ghostwolf maintains that 12 such sacred record sites exist across the continent, each containing knowledge left by previous civilizations to guide future generations through cyclical catastrophes. The discussion touches on connections to the Book of Mormon, Edgar Cayce prophecies, and Native American oral traditions about ancient visitors known as the Old Ones.

Art Bell opens the phone lines with Y2K just sixteen days away, fielding calls from across North America as anxiety builds toward the millennium rollover. He reports that a Nebraska bank posted signs limiting cash withdrawals to three thousand dollars, sparking the very panic officials hoped to avoid. Massachusetts officials, meanwhile, prepare to monitor the transition from a concrete bunker forty feet underground.Callers from Alaska describe glaciers in unprecedented retreat, with mountain rocks exposed for the first time in 25,000 years. A New Hampshire listener reports 106-mile-per-hour winds and 150-mile-per-hour gusts in the White Mountains. Art connects these weather extremes to his new book with Whitley Strieber, arguing that the signs of a coming climate catastrophe are already visible. He reads listener accounts of Lake Erie water levels rising unevenly and solar wind anomalies that NASA kept quiet for months.The night takes an unexpected turn when a caller describes telling a Christian minister his theory that grey aliens are humans from the future. The minister responded not with disbelief but with the question, "How did you find that out?" Art promises to track down the minister for a future interview. Between calls, he promotes the final night of autographed book sales and fields reports from a Canadian donut baker and a Colorado police officer preparing for New Year's Eve duty.

Art Bell presents extended readings from his co-authored book with Whitley Strieber, "The Coming Global Superstorm," a work of researched fiction that dramatizes a catastrophic climate shift. The narrative opens with ocean buoys detecting sudden temperature drops in the North Atlantic and Antarctic, signaling that the world's ocean currents are changing course with devastating consequences.The book weaves between a fictional scenario of civilization-ending storms and factual climate science, examining how the North Atlantic current regulates global weather. Art and Whitley explore geological evidence of past sudden climate shifts, the mysterious origins of ancient monuments like the Sphinx and the sunken structure off Yonaguni, Japan, and legends of prior civilizations destroyed by superstorms. They argue the Zodiac may be an ancient warning calendar marking cyclical catastrophes.Art shares alarming listener reports from Alaska, New Hampshire, and the Great Lakes region describing unprecedented winds, glacial retreat, and weather anomalies. He notes that 40 percent of Arctic ice has disappeared in two decades and that the North Atlantic current may already be shifting, suggesting the book's fictional scenario is becoming reality.

Art Bell revisits the controversial story of Dr. Jonathan Reed, who claims to have encountered and captured an alien being in the Pacific Northwest woods. Tonight's broadcast introduces new witnesses and forensic evidence, including never-before-seen photographs of an alien artifact with hieroglyphic symbols and gold needle-like protrusions, which Art has scanned and posted on his website.Microbiologist Harold Chacon presents his laboratory analysis of tissue and blood samples allegedly taken from the creature. He reports that the skin tissue is denser and more transparent than human skin, with half the fat-producing glands. The blood reveals a chromosome count of 46, matching humans, but nine of those chromosomes are found only in dolphins and certain sea tortoises. Chacon states that no known earthly animal matches the complete biological profile.Former landlord Larry Arthur confirms that Reed's Seattle home was ransacked by unknown parties who cut through floors and ceilings, removed electrical outlet covers, tore apart furniture, and pried a steel garage door from its frame. Arthur describes finding mysterious probe holes in the yard. Reed reports that his fireproof filing cabinets and all personal belongings were taken.

Art Bell hosts Major Ed Dames of Psi Tech, who arrives fresh off two confirmed hits: predicting the EgyptAir Flight 990 cockpit altercation and the loss of the Mars Polar Lander. Dames explains that his military remote viewing team targeted the Lander mission before launch and determined it would fail, attributing the loss to the spacecraft bouncing violently in a Martian atmosphere far thicker than NASA had calculated.The conversation shifts to geophysical predictions as Dames warns that Y2K disruptions will pale compared to what the sun has in store. He forecasts severe drought, massive crop failures, cattle starvation, and opportunistic plant diseases driven by increasing solar activity. He also describes a forbidden zone on Mars guarded by sentient robotic machines that rose from the surface and damaged the Russian Phobos 2 probe.Dames announces Psi Tech's new millennium project: pinpointing the location of the Ark of the Covenant. He reveals that his military team previously confirmed the Ark's existence and says he plans to publish coordinates on the company's website. The discussion also touches on remote viewing one's own death and the nature of personal destiny.

Art Bell welcomes Richard C. Hoagland to discuss NASA's loss of the Mars Polar Lander, the latest in a string of failed Mars missions. Hoagland argues that the failures are not accidents but the work of a rogue group within NASA that is deliberately sabotaging missions to prevent the public from learning about ancient ruins on Mars.Hoagland traces this conspiracy back to Operation Paperclip and the Nazi rocket scientists brought to America after World War II, claiming some carried occult beliefs tied to ancient Egyptian religion and a conviction that the Aryan race originated on Mars. He presents documents from the National Archives and details ritual alignments he has found embedded in NASA mission timelines.Art presses Hoagland on motive, asking why anyone would suppress such knowledge. Hoagland contends that the group seeks to monopolize information about humanity's true origins and ultimately control access to space technology. He calls on honest NASA insiders to come forward with evidence and urges listeners to demand congressional investigations into the agency's pattern of unexplained mission failures.

Art Bell begins the program with an unusual and personal revelation, explaining why he missed the previous night's broadcast. He received a credible death threat relayed through another nationally syndicated talk show host, warning that a mentally unstable individual recently released from the Carl Albert Mental Health Center had fixated on Art and was potentially en route to Pahrump. Art describes sitting armed with a shotgun through the night while the Nye County Sheriff's office attempted to verify the threat.The investigation proved frustrating as the mental health facility refused to share information even with law enforcement. Art explains the impossible choice between doing a five-hour live radio show and remaining vigilant against a potential intruder, ultimately choosing safety over broadcasting. He shares the story to illustrate the real dangers faced by public figures who discuss controversial topics.Peter Hadfield joins to discuss seismic research predicting a major earthquake in Tokyo, examining the geological evidence and Japan's preparedness. Peter Davenport returns with updates on the Missouri UFO sightings, where airline pilots encountered unidentified objects at high altitude. The episode also touches on the Jonathan Reed alien encounter case, including new photographic negatives being submitted for independent analysis.

Art Bell broadcasts on Thanksgiving evening, opening with holiday-themed open lines before welcoming Dr. Walter Semkiw, a medical doctor who presents what he calls visual evidence of reincarnation. Dr. Semkiw argues that physical facial features carry over between lifetimes, offering side-by-side photographic comparisons of historical figures and their alleged modern counterparts as proof of soul continuity across incarnations.During the first hour, callers discuss a range of topics including a Y2K glitch that struck two Victoria, British Columbia hospitals, causing their phone systems to crash and display January 1, 2000 on their screens weeks early. Art reads listener correspondence debating President Clinton's reassurances about Y2K preparedness, with skeptics pointing to the 50 percent of 911 systems still not compliant as reason for concern.Dr. Semkiw walks through his methodology for identifying reincarnation cases, emphasizing that he approaches the subject as a trained physician seeking empirical patterns rather than relying on past-life regression or anecdotal testimony alone. Callers weigh in with their own experiences and questions about the implications of soul return for personal identity and spiritual belief.

Art Bell makes radio history by bringing forward members of two separate airline crews who publicly describe encountering unidentified objects while flying over Missouri. A Learjet pilot at 39,000 feet reports a missile-like object passing within 1,000 feet below his aircraft, while a second crew in a Beech BE-40 at 37,000 feet independently confirms the sighting. Peter Davenport presents FAA controller testimony and recorded conversations documenting the event.The air traffic controller on duty confirms he had no radar returns for the object despite switching to primary radar. Both pilots describe being visibly shaken, with one calling back to the controller's frequency minutes later still seeking answers. A former F-16 pilot now flying commercial, Jose, offers his perspective from the cockpit, noting the lights were significantly brighter than anything he had encountered during military refueling operations at altitude.The program also features Major Ed Dames discussing remote viewing targets including Satan, and Richard C. Hoagland returning to analyze the EgyptAir Flight 990 crash. Hoagland draws attention to the aircraft's evasive-action-like maneuvers captured on radar, suggesting the flight profile resembles a response to an external threat rather than mechanical failure.

Art Bell opens with Y2K updates and listener mail before taking calls from a man claiming to be a former Illuminati controller and liaison to the Pleiadian Supreme Commandant. The caller insists he has traveled through time and holds secret knowledge about the New World Order. Art presses him for verifiable evidence, highlighting the difficulty of separating genuine insiders from elaborate storytellers on late-night radio.Comedian George Carlin joins the program following a Las Vegas performance. The two discuss government secrecy, the nature of power structures, and why citizens remain complacent in the face of institutional corruption. Carlin shares his characteristically sharp observations about language, politics, and human behavior, bringing his trademark irreverence to subjects that align naturally with the show's themes of questioning authority.The episode also features discussion of the November 7th date aftermath, with callers offering theories about what may or may not have occurred. One caller proposes that everyone actually died on November 7th and now exists inside a Matrix-like simulation created by extraterrestrials. Art navigates the spectrum from comedy to conspiracy with his signature late-night ease.

Art Bell welcomes Richard C. Hoagland for an update on the much-discussed November 7th date and the mysterious objects reportedly captured on video during a solar eclipse in Turkey. Hoagland reveals that after extensive analysis, the objects turned out to be flashbulbs and light poles in a crowd shot, undermining the foundation for claims of incoming objects. He explains how the investigation exposed a complex web of disinformation involving competing power groups within Washington.The conversation shifts to EgyptAir Flight 990, which crashed under puzzling circumstances. Hoagland raises the possibility of an electronic attack on the aircraft's fly-by-wire computer systems, noting that the radar data showing a steep dive followed by a partial recovery does not match a mechanical failure like a thrust reverser deployment. He also highlights the unreported Operation Bright Star military exercises happening simultaneously in Egypt.Art takes open lines where callers discuss topics ranging from ancient Arctic fossils suggesting a dramatically warmer climate thousands of years ago to the ongoing threat posed by the Taurid meteor stream. The program also touches on Y2K concerns, government preparedness drills, and the FBI's Operation Megiddo targeting potential millennium-related extremist activity.

Art Bell welcomes investigative journalist William Thomas for an extensive update on the chemtrail phenomenon. Thomas reports a sharp increase in sightings of persistent chemical trails spreading across skies nationwide, accompanied by widespread illness including sore throats, respiratory problems, and a troubling new pattern of psychological symptoms such as depression, inability to concentrate, short-term memory loss, and unexplained anxiety attacks.A fax from a self-identified former NOAA pilot is read on air, claiming his atmospheric research missions were quietly converted into chemical dispersal operations with no filed flight plans, cleared airspace, and crew rotations through remote bases including Area 51. When pressed for more details, the pilot went silent, writing that the truth could set him free or he could turn up missing. Thomas connects these operations to CIA-linked C-130 aircraft diverted from Forest Service firefighting duties.Researcher Patty Doyle joins to present evidence linking the West Nile virus outbreak in New York to Plum Island Animal Disease Center, a biosafety level five facility just two miles offshore. She documents safety violations, illegal waste dumping, and dead lab birds found outside containment areas. A caller who grew up near Plum Island confirms her father worked there and that families were forbidden from visiting zoos due to disease transmission risks.

Art Bell welcomes Linda Jamison and Terry Jamison, identical twin sisters known as the Psychic Twins, who use automatic writing to channel information from what they describe as the Akashic Records. They explain this as an etheric band surrounding Earth where all actions and thoughts are recorded, distinct from channeling individual spirits. The twins describe how they independently produce identical written predictions when working in separate rooms.The sisters offer a series of millennium prophecies, including an AIDS cure by 2006, breast cancer prevention by 2008, a stock market crash around 2003, and two-way voice communication with other dimensions as early as 2012. They predict that George W. Bush will win the next presidential election and foresee cloning of body parts becoming reality in the near future. They also claim to have predicted the Egypt Air Flight 990 crash the day before it occurred through their automatic writing practice.Callers press the twins on topics ranging from the New Madrid fault to the third secret of Fatima, the tenth planet theory, and the prospect of Quebec separating from Canada. The twins share their Buddhist practice and explain how meditation and grounding techniques help them manage the emotional toll of psychic work, particularly when communicating with spirits of the recently deceased.

Art Bell opens with Peter Davenport of the National UFO Reporting Center, who presents audio recordings from commercial airline pilots and a former F-16 fighter pilot describing a massive triangular object seen at 37,000 feet over the southern United States. A second witness in Mississippi reports a silent, hovering craft covered in rows of white lights. Art then interviews actress Jane Seymour about the beloved film Somewhere in Time, the magic of filming at Mackinac Island, and Christopher Reeve's progress toward spinal cord research breakthroughs.The main guest is author and teacher Stuart Wilde, who describes his encounters with grey beings that appeared in his bedroom on multiple occasions. He explains his theory that these entities are interdimensional rather than extraterrestrial, vibrating at frequencies beyond normal human perception. Stuart connects this to physicist Michio Kaku's theories of 10 to 26 dimensions of hyperspace and describes a crop circle near Avebury that encoded this same mathematical framework.Stuart teaches listeners how to develop peripheral vision using the rod cells in their eyes to perceive etheric energy fields around living things. He and Art discuss near-death experiences, the mechanics of inducing them through theta brainwave meditation, and a dark band of negative energy he believes surrounds the Earth and influences governments toward increasing control.

Art Bell interviews X-Files creator Chris Carter about the cancellation of Harsh Realm after only three episodes and the upcoming seventh season of The X-Files. Carter reveals that airline pilots he meets almost always report having seen UFOs, and he shares how government insiders have told him his fictional stories come unsettlingly close to classified truths. They discuss the coming millennium, a possible second X-Files film, and Lance Henriksen reprising his Millennium role.In the second half, Art speaks with Uri Geller, the Israeli-born psychic known worldwide for spoon bending and telepathy. Geller recounts his childhood discovery of psychokinetic abilities, his service in the Six-Day War, and his secret work with the CIA attempting to erase floppy disks and influence Soviet negotiators. He describes being asked to kill a pig with his mind in a government laboratory and refusing.Geller conducts a live experiment asking listeners to concentrate on broken watches and clocks. Callers from Hawaii, Reno, and New York report timepieces suddenly working again, while others describe spoons moving near their radios. The segment becomes a demonstration of collective psychic energy channeled through the broadcast.

Art Bell welcomes Richard C. Hoagland to discuss the stunning discovery of a perfectly preserved woolly mammoth frozen in Siberian ice. They examine the scientific possibilities of cloning the ancient creature using DNA extraction and elephant surrogacy, while weighing the risks of releasing dormant pathogens trapped in the permafrost for thousands of years.The conversation shifts to the broader implications of ancient history, touching on the Piri Reis map as evidence of advanced pre-ice age civilizations and the mysterious glyphs of Abydos. Hoagland connects these threads to suggest humanity may not be the first advanced civilization on Earth, and that the mammoth discovery offers a window into a forgotten era.Art and Hoagland also address President Clinton's increasingly erratic behavior, including an unusual solo golf outing in the rain and repeated remarks about wanting a third term. They explore whether these oddities signal foreknowledge of a coming event, and Hoagland appeals to listeners with insider knowledge to come forward with information about what may be planned for November 1999.

Art Bell opens the phone lines with a special challenge, dedicating one line exclusively to members of secret societies willing to share something about their organizations. The evening draws multiple callers claiming Masonic membership, including a self-described Master Mason who insists all Masonic secrets are publicly available and a second Mason who flatly contradicts him, confirming that higher degrees hold information inaccessible to lower ranks.A caller from New Mexico describes a hierarchy of secret societies placing the Brotherhood of the Snake and the Brotherhood of the Dragon above the Illuminati, the Knights Templar, and the Freemasons. He claims these groups guard the true origins of mankind, knowledge allegedly stolen from the Library of Alexandria and now hidden within the Vatican. He asserts that Jesus was a member of the Illuminati who served as a messenger rather than a divine figure, and that the G7 nations represent the power structure controlling these secrets.Between society calls, Art checks in with a listener in St. Thomas bracing for Hurricane Jose, fields a call from a former Rosicrucian who describes psychic development exercises involving mirrors and candles, and hears from an Order of the Eastern Star member who explains the organization's blood-relative requirement connecting it to Freemasonry. Art declares that when he dies, he intends to return and provide proof of the afterlife by broadcasting his voice through the radio spectrum.

Art Bell welcomes author Laurie Jacobson to discuss her book Hollywood Haunted, exploring ghost sightings connected to some of the entertainment industry's most famous names. Jacobson shares accounts of Lucille Ball's melancholy apparition watching her beloved home being demolished, Ozzie Nelson's spirit taking liberties with women who moved into his former residence, and Clifton Webb lingering on Earth because he feared being forgotten despite his celebrated career.The conversation deepens when Jacobson recounts Ricky Nelson's daughter Tracy describing violent poltergeist activity in Errol Flynn's former estate, where rooms shook with the sound of crashing furniture and gold records being smashed, yet nothing was ever disturbed. Jacobson shares her own experience at Grauman's Chinese Theatre, where an unseen presence angrily shook a floor-to-ceiling velvet drape, later identified as the ghost of a former employee named Fritz who had hanged himself behind the movie screen.Art reveals a mysterious photograph from his webcam taken at the exact moment he was discussing a Satanist guest, showing an unexplained white mass gathered above his head. The pair debate reincarnation, near-death experiences, the dangers of Ouija boards, and whether the manner of death directly shapes what happens to the spirit afterward.

Art Bell speaks with Dr. Ellen Crystall, a researcher who claims over 2,000 photographs of UFOs taken across nearly three decades of fieldwork in Hollywood, California and Pine Bush, New York. Crystall describes her first encounters in 1971, when residents of a Hollywood apartment complex pointed out lights in the night sky that gradually revealed themselves as structured craft over subsequent weeks. She explains how her photographs capture shortwave radiation emissions invisible to the naked eye, producing unexpected images that took years of scientific consultation to decipher.Crystall recounts her closest encounter in Pine Bush in 1986, when a small boomerang-shaped craft with a geodesic dome hovered directly above her, close enough to touch. She describes shouting at the craft in frustration over the lack of communication, prompting it to fan one of its swiveling paddle-like wings over her. She also details seeing aliens approximately three and a half feet tall with thin frames and beige skin.Art presses Crystall on the interpretive nature of her photographs and the challenge of presenting evidence that requires guided examination rather than offering immediately recognizable images. The discussion touches on the Senate's rejection of the nuclear test ban treaty and listener calls ranging from alien technology to the JFK Jr. crash.

Art Bell speaks with Dr. Colm Kelleher of the National Institute for Discovery Science about early results from their new UFO hotline, then shifts to preparedness experts Stan and Holly Deyo broadcasting from Australia. Kelleher describes roughly 70 reports received in just weeks, including a massive silent triangular craft spotted over Oklahoma and a deeply strange encounter on Bob Bigelow's research ranch where a glowing blue orb and a large black object were visible to one investigator but completely invisible to another standing fifteen feet away.Stan Deyo shares alarming observations about ocean surface temperatures, describing an anomalous cold circle in the North Atlantic that behaves like a thermal sink, along with unusual solar activity including new ultraviolet frequencies the sun began emitting in 1991. Holly Deyo discusses their book Dare to Prepare, offering practical advice for urban and rural families facing potential disasters from weather disruptions to Y2K uncertainties.The conversation turns to persistent rumors of a possible event in November 1999, asteroid detection gaps caused by the shutdown of Australia's Space Guard program, and a striking map showing that 70 percent of known meteor impact craters are concentrated in the Northern Hemisphere.

Art Bell welcomes UFO attorney Peter Gersten and creationist minister Steve Grohman for a two-part evening covering alien controversies and the creation-evolution debate. Gersten reports on a bizarre two-page R.J. Reynolds tobacco advertisement appearing in weekly newspapers that mocks alien abductees, asking why aliens keep abducting the dumbest people on Earth. He and Art dissect the ad's strange implications, with Bob Bigelow weighing in via email demanding an apology on behalf of abductees everywhere.Grohman, an ordained Baptist minister who travels the country with fossils and live reptiles he considers modern dinosaurs, makes his case that Earth is only six to seven thousand years old. He challenges carbon dating methods, argues that reptiles in the original creation grew to enormous sizes due to longer lifespans, and claims cave art proves humans and dinosaurs coexisted.Art pushes back on both guests with pointed questions about dating science, the possibility of extraterrestrial life, and whether biblical literalism can accommodate the vastness of the universe. Callers weigh in on everything from evolution to eternal consequences of belief.