
So Into That
one ridiculously impressive complete-meal recipe delivered to your inbox every saturday morning that dirties minimal dishes and requires under an hour of time.
Caro Chambers
Show overview
So Into That has been publishing since 2023, and across the 3 years since has built a catalogue of 32 episodes. That works out to roughly 30 hours of audio in total. Releases follow a monthly cadence.
Episodes typically run thirty-five to sixty minutes — most land between 38 min and 1h 3m — though episode length varies meaningfully from one episode to the next. None of the episodes are flagged explicit by the publisher. It is catalogued as a EN-language Society & Culture show.
The show is actively publishing — the most recent episode landed 2 weeks ago, with 3 episodes already out so far this year. The busiest year was 2024, with 22 episodes published. Published by Caro Chambers.
From the publisher
Substack's #1 food & drink writer invites some of her favorite people to share what they're into right now… whether that's a book, show, recipe, beauty hack... or an approach to marriage and parenting, community, or friendship. Conversations about finding easier and better ways to do (and enjoy) life. Learn more at whattocook.substack.com. whattocook.substack.com
Latest Episodes
View all 32 episodescooking with caro (and thrive!): smoky mole chicken enchiladas

warm weather is upon us!!
Hi! Carmel Valley schools are operating on a half-day schedule all week, and we’re in the middle of an extreme heat wave, so it feels like a mini spring break before real spring break is upon us in April. I know a lot of your kids have spring break this month (my friend Mary Pell is visiting from North Carolina right now for her daughter’s spring break!), so today we’re sharing a few spring break-related things, should it be on your radar right now, too.Whether or not you’re in a spring break time of life: spring as a season will be official on Friday! To celebrate, Saturday’s new recipe includes my favorite spring vegetable, asparagus, but in the meantime, we wanted to share our team’s personal favorite super-springy recipes from the archives to welcome the new season. And lest you forget: there’s a whole “spring” section in the What to Cook recipe index — along with many, many more categories based on cook time, protein, and mood. If you’re ever needing inspiration for dinner, let the index be your guide. Also worth noting if you’re a Substack app user: we are VERY happy to report that the WTC index is pinned again under “posts” when you’re on the WTC homepage within the app. The pinned posts went missing for a few weeks but they’re back, baby!Caro’s: sheet-pan spring salmonThis is perhaps the springiest weeknight dinner recipe I’ve ever written. Dilly sauce, asparagus, roasted potatoes, and salmon with lots of lemon… it’s so fresh and delicious. It’s also both gluten- and dairy-free as written and is delicious served either right out of the oven or at room temp, so you could cook the entire meal ahead of time, let it cool, and store it covered in the fridge. Bring it out 30-ish minutes before dinner to let it come to room temperature, then dig in! It’s a total crowd pleaser. There’s an even simpler version of this meal — it omits the potatoes — in WTC the book on page 40! Jillian’s: crispy artichoke and chicken saladArtichokes are one of my favorite spring vegetables! This is a good-all-week salad that combines roasted marinated artichokes with chicken that you marinate in the artichoke brine, a can of white beans, kale, homemade croutons, and the most addicting, springy lemon-Parm dressing out there. I typically eat vegetarian and highly endorse the mushroom vegetarian riff that Caro suggests! Molly’s: roasted asparagus farrottoI cooked this meal one day last week after the time change and it was a perfect springy experience. I sipped a glass of white wine (the same wine I used later for the recipe!) while the asparagus and farro roasted away in the oven and the evening sunlight (!!) poured through the windows. It’s VERY tasty, and Caro’s asparagus-roasting hack in this recipe — you cook it on an inverted pot lid! — always makes me feel like a pro. Do you have a favorite springy WTC recipe?!Whether you’re traveling this season or not, these “vacation house” meal plans will get you in the springy and/or spring break spirit! Version one + version two. I’m taking my older boys on a very adventure-heavy spring break trip with Lonely Planet Journeys (formerly known as Elsewhere, the travel company that sent me on the Camino and to Patagonia!) next month. It’ll be my first real trip with kids that isn’t a plop vacation by the pool/beach — we are going to be making our own chocolate from native cacao! Snorkeling in cenotes! Exploring ancient ruins! We are all so excited and grateful for the opportunity.That said, my typical spring break plan is to go somewhere that I can plop in front of a body of water (pool, beach, lake, etc.) with the kids, and have easy access to a house or hotel room with all the creature comforts we may need. Other years, we hang at home and go to the pool after work and/or on local outings that we can’t usually do when the kids are in school. Whatever your plans may be, here’s a random collection of spring break tips and things we are loving.* I’ve said this before but one of my favorite vacation tricks is shipping a Thrive order to the rental house with pantry staples, kids snacks and meals (like Goodles!), and any other miscellaneous things we’ll need during the trip like sunscreen, dish soap, diapers, etc. I love that when I’m filling my Thrive box I don’t have to study the ingredients lists — they have a strict vetting process to ensure that everything they carry is organic and free from more than 1,000 artificial, synthetic, and GMO ingredients. It also saves me money!!! The membership’s only $5 a month, they run sales all the time within their membership, and the items are already priced up to 30% off retail. Click here to get 30% off your first order and a free $60 gift of your choice when you sign up. And as a reminder, new-to-Thrive WTC Insiders get $25 off their first four orders (plus lots of other perks)! * I got this suit in black for Mexico and it’s a really nice middle ground between mom suit and sexy suit. It’s definitely VERY SNUG in my normal size, so size up if you’re

a toast to breastfeeding
Hi! First of all, I recorded a voiceover of this So Into That! Click the play button above if you’d like to listen. I really, really tried not to cry, but it was just a crying kind of day apparently.I’ve had a wild few weeks of travel — both for pleasure to Mexico with the kids, and then, eight hours after landing from Mexico, I left for a 10-day work trip that included announcing my new book on Good Morning America, delivering a keynote at my alma mater (go Heels), taping an upcoming appearance on The Drew Barrymore Show, bringing my 5-year-old along for the second half of the trip, and having a bazillion meetings and coffees in between.That 10-day trip marked the end of breastfeeding my fourth baby. I breastfed my first baby for 14 months, my second baby for 12 months, my third baby for six months, and my fourth baby for seven months. That’s three years and three months of breastfeeding. Before I go on, I want to say that I am not writing this to glorify breastfeeding. Any way you feed your baby is absolutely perfect. Formula rules. Giving a baby a pumped milk or formula bottle is just as cozy and wonderful (and also difficult at times) as breastfeeding, and provides many or all of the same moments I share below. But I did breastfeed (in combination with formula for my last two babies), so, now that that chapter of my life is behind me, I wrote a toast to it, to say goodbye.Breastfeeding: You made my boobs resemble empty wind socks, you made me question every single food or drink I had consumed in a 48-hour period whenever my baby wiggled slightly too much in his sleep, you made me smell so, so bad, you made my nipples bleed, you made my boobs leak in so many public places, and, according to my math, you consumed roughly 2,400 hours, aka 99 entire days, of my life over the past seven years. You also allowed me to spend precious hours alone with my tiny, perfect babies, to escape countless boring conversations, to get out of so many tedious obligations, and to hide in dark rooms at parties. You created quiet pockets of time in the middle of loud, busy life. You gave me thousands of small moments with my babies that I’ll never quite be able to explain to anyone who wasn’t there with us. I have loved you, I have hated you, and I have felt pretty whatever about you, sometimes all in the same minute. And it’s time for us to say goodbye forever. But before we do, here’s a toast to you. To the 1 a.m. feeds, the 3 a.m. feeds, the 3:45 a.m. feeds, the 5 a.m. feeds, and the 5:32 a.m. feeds, when the whole house was silent except for the rhythmic, baby-piglet snorts and gulps. To that first successful latch. To that first public breastfeeding session when you’re still trying to maintain a shred of modesty. To that last public breastfeeding session when you’ve thrown modesty to the wind. To the newly postpartum oxytocin blasts that felt like drugs. To never ever sitting in the rocking chair that my mother-in-law so lovingly bought me, instead preferring to breastfeed in bed, surrounded by pillows, in what my sons aptly named “mama’s nest.”To the frantic “I NEED WATER! SERIOUSLY, I’M DYING, PLEASE HELP ME RIGHT NOW!” shouts to my husband. To the times he handed it to me before I even asked and it felt like the truest form of love. To my sons asking “does he need to drink yer boob!?” every time the baby cried. To all the food dropped on my babies’ heads. To going from breastfeeding being a quiet, peaceful time to learning how to breastfeed while kissing toddler boo boos, or feeding myself lunch, or building MagnaTile castles, or making snacks. To living life to a soundtrack of white noise. To crying while listening to Michelle Obama’s memoir in my first baby’s first nursery. To flipping the pages of so many books with my chin because I didn’t have any free hands.To my body literally having a super power: the ability to instantly calm a baby. To powering through the extreme discomfort of breastfeeding on the bleachers at a baseball game or on a 90-degree day at a water park or on one of those tiny chairs at a pre-K teacher conference. To the hours spent pinned under a sleeping child, oscillating between feeling trapped and feeling like I was exactly where I was meant to be. To the way a soft diaper-clad newborn felt curled against my soft, squishy postpartum body. To the milk drunk faces. To the milk that dribbled out of the side of their mouth when they couldn’t even stay awake long enough to finish that mouthful. To kissing their little face and tasting the sugariness of my own milk and being kind of grossed out but not really.To helping me get to know my babies. To helping me understand every single noise they made except for the really weird ones that made me and my husband or whatever big kid was in the room laugh and laugh at the absurdity of such a tiny, adorable baby making such a wild noise. To my body waking up when the baby’s breathing changed ever so slightly because they’d just woken up. To the cheeks and t

cook christmas strata with me!
I had so much fun cooking the Christmas Strata live with so many of you this morning! I love that we’ve all knocked out Christmas breakfast and now have it ready in the fridge — phew! One thing off the list. If you missed it, you can still cook along with us with following along with this recording.The live crew also asked for a kitchen tour so I do that at the end!Thank you Sarah Conner, Charlotte Kaufman, fillups44, Buffy C-P, Shannon Hanson, Karen Mulvaney, and many others for tuning in and cooking with me! Join Insiders to join more live cooking classes in 2026! This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit whattocook.substack.com/subscribe

Thanksgiving hotline with Sohla, Olivia, and Caro
Thanks to all who tuned into our turkey day chat earlier this week! Here’s the recording in case you missed it. Have any questions we didn’t cover? Ask them here! This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit whattocook.substack.com/subscribe

a VERY BIG pre-order giveaway!!!!
ONE OF YOU IS WINNING A TRIP TO CARMEL!!!!I promise I’ll stop yapping about pre-orders soon, because the book will BE IN YOUR HANDS IN LESS THAN A MONTH! But until pub day on August 13th, it’s pre-order city, baby. And to show you just how SERIOUSLY, UNENDINGLY GRATEFUL I am to all of you for pre-ordering, I’ve been working really hard on a truly massive giveaway…CARO’S PERFECT WEEKEND IN CARMEL GIVEAWAY!!!!!**TWO NIGHT STAY AT CARMEL VALLEY RANCH** **$100 GIFT CARD TO STATIONAERY****A PICNIC BOX + CRACKERS FROM LADY & LARDER****A WINE TASTING FOR TWO AT PELIO ESTATE WINES****A WINE TASTING FOR TWO AT HOLMAN RANCH****$100 GIFT CARD TO WINE HOUSE****A WINE TASTING FOR TWO AT JOYCE WINE CO.****$100 GIFT CARD TO CELLA RESTAURANT****PLUS… A SIGN SLAP HIKE OR GLASS OF WINE WITH LITTLE OLE ME!!!! (if you want to lol)**If you follow me on Instagram, you’ll know and recognize all of these spots as places I frequent with my fam, friends, and on dates with George. Bring your whole fam (all of these tasting rooms are kid-friendly, trust me, I’d know), bring a friend, come with just your significant other, or bring your grandma…! No matter who you bring, I’m just so excited for one of you to get to get to experience the beautiful part of the world where we live. TO ENTER:* If you already entered to join the cooking class, you’re already entered!* Otherwise, preorder the book, then head to this link to enter! FYI it says nothing about the giveaway right now, but don’t worry, this is how you enter!! * If you can’t remember if you already entered to join the cooking class, just do it again!* Winner will be announced on August 14th, 2024. **Carmel Valley Ranch disclaimer: Accommodations based on availability. During holidays and special events, blackout dates apply. Valid Sunday - Thursday.**Flights not included. This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit whattocook.substack.com/subscribe

author annabel monaghan on getting unstuck, her new book ‘summer romance,’ and how decluttering reveals your true values
Get this week’s full So Into That newsletter here! https://whattocook.substack.com/p/author-annabel-monaghan-on-gettingIt’s summertime, and that means it’s Annabel Monaghan time!Annabel’s one of my favorite authors, and lucky for us she cranks out a delightful new book seemingly every June.This year is no different, so today we talk about Summer Romance and a whole lot more: from kids and smartphones (she’s also mom of 3 boys/young men), to sneaking away from her family to write her first adult novel during the pandemic (“it felt like a love affair”) to her recent embrace of getting rid of old stuff – and the existential questions that pop up when you’re deciding whether to let go of a 15-year-old shirt.Plus, Annabel’s fascinating writing process: part art, part science, part voodoo. And bribing her sons to read her (not even that steamy) books: “They’re like, ‘Gross!’”Links: * Annabel’s new book, Summer Romance - https://amzn.to/3R5GYc1* Her debut (adult) novel, Nora Goes Off Script - https://amzn.to/3wVtadi* Same Time Next Summer - https://amzn.to/3R0DHuo* Annabel’s Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/annabelmonaghan/?hl=en* Our new cabin! - https://www.instagram.com/p/C7hGmo_xKSM/?hl=en&img_index=1 This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit whattocook.substack.com/subscribe

'the idea of you' author robinne lee reacts to the movie adaptation and the new ending
Get this week's full So Into That newsletter here! https://whattocook.substack.com/p/the-idea-of-you-author-robinne-leeThe Idea of You was a book that changed the way I read. I absolutely loved it. I recommend it all the time. And it was my gateway drug into the romance genre… although, as its author Robinne Lee shares in this episode, she never intended to write a romance novel (nor does she consider it to be one).The Idea of You really is about much more than meets the eye. As Robinne wrote in this Time article, the book grapples with themes including “ageism, sexism, the double standard, motherhood, female friendship, agency, and the dark side of celebrity.” And now that it’s been turned into a hit movie starring Anne Hathaway, it’s the perfect time to hear from Robinne herself.If you haven’t read the book or seen the movie yet (BTW, I really recommend reading the book first!), it follows the relationship between a 40-year-old single mom and art gallery owner (Solène) and a boy-band lead singer 16 years her junior (Hayes). In the podcast, we talk about the inspiration for the book (it’s not Harry Styles and Olivia Wilde, y’all); the tension between motherhood, romantic love, and career; what she wishes was different about the movie; and much more.We also get into:* Her hustling for 7 years to sell the book, copy by copy* Why she ended the story the way she did* Writing sex scenes and why she doesn’t see TIOY as a romance novel* Anne Hathaway and Nicholas Galitzine’s performances in the movie* A tantalizing tease about her next bookWhether you’re a fan of The Idea of You or not (yet!), I’m so excited for you to get to know Robinne, who is also a talented actor and overall smart and fascinating woman.PS: I know I said So Into That episodes are going to air every other week now, but the world is currently *loving* The Idea of You, so I didn’t want to sit on this interview!! This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit whattocook.substack.com/subscribe

how to get rich AF, with vivian tu (@your.richbff)
Get this week’s full So Into That newsletter here! https://whattocook.substack.com/p/how-to-get-rich-af-with-vivian-tuVivian Tu (Your Rich BFF) is here, and she’s here to make us smarter about personal finance like we’re out for margaritas.No condescension. No jargon. Just tons of actionable tips, no matter your income or family situation.You might know Vivian from Instagram, where her personal finance videos go viral on the reg. But not everything can fit into a 60-second clip… so she’s written a new book called Rich AF. Today, we tackle everything from negotiating a raise, to “the talk” she recommends stay-at-home parents have with their income-earning partner, to the website that could reunite you with hundreds or thousands of dollars that are rightfully yours (really!).Get ready to learn more about making and managing money in an hour than you did in 20 years of school!We also get into:• What to do when it feels like bachelorette parties and weddings are bankrupting you• Why talking about money more usually makes you richer• Why she doesn’t believe in splitting rent 50/50• Advice for stay-at-home moms who feel left in the dark about money• Step-by-step salary negotiation tactics• High-yield savings accounts• Hiring your kids (!) to lower your taxable income• And much moreLinks: • Vivian’s new book, Rich AF: The Winning Money Mindset That Will Change Your Life - https://www.yourrichbff.com/richaf• Vivian’s website: https://www.yourrichbff.com/• Vivian’s Substack, Enriched - https://yourrichbff.substack.com/• Vivian’s podcast, Networth and Chill• Vivian’s Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/your.richbff/?hl=en• Vivian’s TikTok - https://www.tiktok.com/@yourrichbff?lang=en• MissingMoney.com - https://www.missingmoney.com/ This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit whattocook.substack.com/subscribe

ask me anything! mom jealousy, toddler tantrums, money, and more
Get this week’s full So Into That newsletter here! https://whattocook.substack.com/p/so-into-that-ask-me-anythingIf you follow me on Instagram, you know I do the occasional “question box” style Ask Me Anything there. Well, today I’m bringing that format to the pod – and you sent in some juicy ones.This Q&A gets into:• Workout motivation with young kids• How do I deal with “mom guilt” as a working mom?• Toddler tantrums• Deciding whether to have another child?!• Will we stay in California forever?• Ghostwriting cookbooks • My brother? (yes, I have one!)• And more!Links: • Emma Lovewell on So Into That - https://whattocook.substack.com/p/pelotons-emma-lovewell-is-so-into• Cameron Rogers episode - https://whattocook.substack.com/p/efficiency-hacks-the-transition-from• Gaby Dalkin episode - https://whattocook.substack.com/p/gaby-dalkin-is-so-into-mastering• Eat to Beat Depression and Anxiety by Drew Ramsey, MD - https://www.amazon.com/Eat-Beat-Depression-Anxiety-Nourish/dp/006303171X• Expecting Better by Emily Oster - https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/310896/expecting-better-by-emily-oster/• Final scene of Mad Men (spoilers, obv) - https://youtu.be/Exf63KPXF6w?si=5J3nO7dPQTZcda3s This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit whattocook.substack.com/subscribe

angela santomero, the creator of blues clues and daniel tiger, won't mom shame you about screen time
Get this week’s full So Into That newsletter here! https://whattocook.substack.com/p/angela-santomero-the-creator-of-bluesAs the creator of Daniel Tiger’s Neighborhood on PBS, Angela Santomero may be the person most responsible for getting my family through the pandemic with our sanity intact. The show was (and still is) a lifesaver in moments when George or I needed a break from hands-on parenting, and its musical life lessons have become part of our toddlers’ lexicon.Today, I get the chance to thank Angela in person! And you get to hear about the early childhood development principles behind her Emmy award-winning work. Plus, her take on screen time for kids; working with the real-life Mr. Rogers; and two wise pieces of advice for parents of young kids.We also get into:• Why Daniel Tiger doesn’t wear pants (but Mom Tiger does)• How Angela developed the show (and Blue’s Clues before that)• How music and repetition help kids learn• Advice she’d give to her younger self (now that her daughters are in their 20s)Links: • Angela’s new book, Life Clues - https://angelasclues.com/• Her Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/angelasclues/?hl=en• Her TikTok - https://www.tiktok.com/@angelasclues• Her new show, Dee & Friends in Oz on Netflix - https://www.netflix.com/title/81223055 This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit whattocook.substack.com/subscribe

carly duguid on building the brand of naomi osaka
Get this week’s full So Into That newsletter here! https://whattocook.substack.com/p/carly-duguid-on-building-the-brandCarly Phillips Duguid is my former college classmate, a What to Cook subscriber, and… oh yeah, the co-founder of the sports agency Evolve, along with her husband and 4-time grand slam winner Naomi Osaka.Today, Carly shares how she’s “embracing the pure chaos” of parenting a 4-year-old and a 4-month-old while serving as Naomi’s right hand woman – from helping design her Nike apparel, to laying the groundwork for a post-tennis career in fashion, to crafting the look of Naomi’s recent historic baby formula commercial.We also get into:- How Carly’s second kid changed her mind about work-from-home “interruptions”- The story of meeting her husband, Stu (it’s romance novel material)- What Naomi’s like off the court and how that’s changed since she became a mom- How Carly structures her day and her childcare setup - What she cooks when she doesn’t feel like cookingLinks: - Evolve - https://www.instagram.com/thisisevolve/?hl=en- Carly’s Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/carlsterthebalster/- Silver Spring hot pilates - https://silverspringsla.com/- Naomi’s Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/carlsterthebalster/- Naomi’s Bobbie Formula commercial - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jkCrOea3aA- Her Nike apparel line - https://www.nike.com/w/naomi-osaka-tennis-clothing-4an2mz6ymx6zed1q- mango peanut chicken salad recipe - https://whattocook.substack.com/p/mango-peanut-chicken-salad-635 This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit whattocook.substack.com/subscribe

i found the perfect reading for a wedding ceremony or toast
Get this week’s full So Into That newsletter here! https://whattocook.substack.com/p/i-found-the-perfect-reading-for-aToday I share what I’ve been so into lately: entertaining versus having people over, a great new lipstick, etc.Plus, the insane story of how I heard a beautiful poem read at a wedding and immediately knew who the author was (it's not someone famous, and I'd never heard the poem before!).I also get into:PMS getting way worse with age, kids, or both (my “so out on”)Traveling to Austin for my mom’s 70th birthday (but missing the solar eclipse!)My IRL LOL of the week involving my son, high off Easter candy sugar, and the word “dragon”What I’ve been cooking lately and my trick for getting my kids to eat itLinks: Merit Matte LipstickThe Need by Helen Phillipsbeef enchilada casserole recipe This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit whattocook.substack.com/subscribe

jess damuck is a salad freak and a health nut and she's got the books to prove it!
Dinner party tips. Healthy meals with Trader Joe’s ingredients. Stories involving Martha Stewart, Sufjan Stevens, and Sia?This conversation with Jess Damuck has all of the above and more, and I’m bringing it to you a day after the launch of her gorgeous new book, Health Nut: A Feel-Good Cookbook.If you’ve seen Salad Freak, you know how beautiful Jess’ work is. Which makes sense considering she spent years working directly with – and learning from – Martha Stewart.Amazingly, Jess wrote not one but two cookbooks in the past year. And when we caught up in Los Angeles a couple weeks ago, we talked about both of them, plus:* Making 47 plaster sculptures for Sia (really!)* What she learned working for Martha Stewart and Bon Appétit* Minimizing the number of dishes we use in meals* Embracing living in L.A. and hosting artists and entertainers* Why “health” can be a loaded word and what it means to her* The tofu stir fry she cooks when she doesn’t feel like cookingLinks:* Health Nut: A Feel-Good Cookbook* Salad Freak: Recipes to Feed a Healthy Obsession* Open Wide: A Cookbook for Friends (Benny Blanco book out April 2024)* Jess’ Instagram* Smoked soy sauce* Kettle Soba Cha buckwheat tea* High Maintenance, the HBO show Jess’ partner Ben created and starred in* Dave, the FX show Ben directed* Ram Dass’ spiritual sanctuary in MauiGet full access to What To Cook When You Don't Feel Like Cooking at whattocook.substack.com/subscribe This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit whattocook.substack.com/subscribe

eve rodsky's "fair play" method for dividing household labor will improve your marriage
I love each and every guest we’ve had on this show, but I’m just gonna say it: for me at least, this episode is probably the most important and relevant one we’ve done yet. Today we have Eve Rodsky, the Harvard-trained author of Fair Play: A Game-Changing Solution for When You Have Too Much to Do (and More Life to Live).I personally credit Eve’s ideas – and the playing cards that help you implement them – with making the “invisible work” of running my own household visible, and equitably dividing that work with my husband.As you’ll hear today, Eve embarked on this journey to find answers to her own problem. After becoming a mom of two, she watched as she became the default doer of the things, all while feeling sidelined in her career and “abandoned” by her husband (whom she still loved).In other words, her “Sh*t I Do” list grew longer and longer without any real discussion of who should actually do what.Fair Play is the antidote to that problem, and this episode breaks down the method in detail. You’ll come away equipped to start a conversation with your partner; identify and fairly divide responsibilities; create space for yourself; and ultimately live a happier, healthier life.Eve and I also get into:* Why household labor tends to be so unequal* Men over-reporting and women under-reporting their contributions* How to raise this topic with your partner* What Fair Play looks like in action in my own marriage* “He’s the income earner. So shouldn’t I handle everything in the home?”* Understanding the different types of labor (daily grind vs. on your own time)* Hard-to-define responsibilities like spirituality and “magic” (tooth fairy, etc.)* Why it’s so important to own a task completely* Eve’s key to staying happy even as you shoulder more responsibility in lifeLinks: * Fair Play book* Fair Play cards* Fair Play documentary* Eve’s second book, Find Your Unicorn Space* Eve’s podcast with Dr. Aditi NerurkarSubscribe to my weekly recipe newsletter here: https://whattocook.substack.com This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit whattocook.substack.com/subscribe

gaby dalkin of what's gaby cooking on building her food empire + remaining positive through nine miscarriages
I am a longtime Gaby Dalkin lover, and you will soon be, too! She is charming, hard-working, smart, and just a good, kind human. Trigger warning: like the title says, Gaby has experienced 9 miscarriages. She copes with this with humor and levity, so if that's not something you wish to hear right now, skip this one.We also get into:* How Gaby structures her typical day* Dividing responsibilities with her husband* Her IVF journey and miscarriages* Why grilling is seen as a man’s game and why it’s actually so enjoyable* Why she loves the Netflix show Formula 1: Drive to Survive and how she landed a bougie AF trip to Italy to watch a race!* The tacos she makes when she doesn’t feel like cookingLinks: * What’s Gaby Cooking* Formula 1: Drive to SurviveSign up for my weekly recipe newsletter here: https://whattocook.substack.com/ This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit whattocook.substack.com/subscribe

jessa hastings, author of the magnolia parks universe, doesn't follow the rules
OMFG — Jessa freaking Hastings is on So Into That this week!!!!!Jessa is the brilliant author of the Magnolia Parks book series, and whether or not you’ve read them, I know you’ll love getting to know her and hearing about her path to mega-book-fame.I can’t stop thinking about the unwavering faith that Jessa had in herself that these books would someday be a success, despite so many people telling her no along the way. If you’ve ever wanted to put something out into the world but hit speed bumps along the way, I know her story will be as inspirational to you as it is to me. Whether you’ve read Magnolia Parks or not, you’ll love getting to know Jessa and hearing her talk about “downloading” ideas out of thin air, blacking out while writing, what she reads and watches for inspiration, and navigating the wild world of “Bookstagram” and “BookTok” where everyone’s a critic.Also – if you haven’t read the books; heed my spoiler alert about 15 minutes from the end!We also get into:* Where Jessa gets her ideas* Trusting her instincts, self-publishing, and going viral* The DMs she gets from her very invested fans* Drawing on her personal experience with grief to write Magnolia’s book 5 experience* Trying to get spoilers out of Jessa — “Will there be another wedding? Will someone die?!”* The meaning of the last sentence of Book 5* What Jessa’s so into (and out on) right nowLinks: * Jessa’s Instagram* Buy the Magnolia Parks books here* Pre-order my book hereListen to this episode on your favorite podcast app: This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit whattocook.substack.com/subscribe

a big announcement + "one day" discussion + the year of me
Today’s show kicks off with a BIG announcement… something that’s been in the works for years.I know you’re going to love it!I’ll fill you in on all the details, plus – why I'm relating so hardcore to the show One Day (spoiler: you get to hear all about me and George's FINAL breakup before we got engaged).And an update on what I’m calling “The Year of Me”. Why I’m taking time to reignite old passions and discover new ones this year… and what to keep in mind if you decide to pursue a Year of You.Links: * Pre-order my book here!* One Day on NetflixGet my weekly recipe newsletter here: https://whattocook.substack.com/ This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit whattocook.substack.com/subscribe

becoming experts on our own stress with stress expert dr. aditi nerurkar
My husband and I have been following the amazing Dr. Aditi Nerurkar for months now, and putting her tips to work in our sometimes-stressful lives.Now that she’s put all her wisdom together in a book and started her own Substack, it seemed like the time to ask her to share science-backed strategies for managing and mastering stress – beyond unhelpful and annoying clichés (“just relax?!”).So in this episode, we talk about the personal stress crisis that inspired Aditi to become a world expert on the subject; how she manages her own stress as a working mom with a young kid; and how to apply the “5 Resets" in your day-to-day life.We also get into:* Finding small moments of calm throughout the day* The 3-second routine she recommends when making a transition (before picking up kids, etc.)* Night time screen time and “Revenge Bedtime Procrastination”* What keeping your phone nearby at work or in bed does to your stress* Habit formation and why falling off the wagon can actually be goodLinks* Gaiam Posture Corrector* Aditi’s Instagram* Her new Substack, It’s Not You, It’s Your Stress* Her podcast, Time Out: A Fair Play Podcast* Aditi’s book, The Five Resets: Rewire Your Brain and Body for Less Stress and More Resilience This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit whattocook.substack.com/subscribe

"you went to BOARDING SCHOOL?!" with Lily Wick, my best friend from... boarding school
Every time I mention I went to boarding school, people are like "WOAH WOAH WOAH, please explain!" So here's a primer on boarding school, why we loved it, what was hard, and why we think our friendship is still so strong despite not having lived in the same place for more than 15 years. We also get into:* A basic, 101-level intro to boarding school * Different “houses” on campus and their reputations * A typical day* Sneaking out, making out, and navigating the “strike” (disciplinary) system* What I was like in high school* Pros and cons and how the experience shaped usLinks: * Lily's Instagram* lilywick.com (amazing interior design)Get my weekly recipe newsletter here: whattocook.substack.com This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit whattocook.substack.com/subscribe