Pop Apologists

Lauren and Chan discuss the latest update on Ben Affleck and Jennifer Lopez's marriage and read between the lines to see what is actually going on, including an interesting conspiracy. The gals have noticed a verrrrrrrry interesting change in Gwyneth Paltrow and are ready to chat about their observations. They dive into the newest season of The Kardashians and talk about the moments they have truly enjoyed and the questions they have for Kim. Lauren and Chan chat about the recent photos of Natalie Portman and Paul Mescal and speculate about the nature of their relationship. Finally, the gals give their thoughts on the upcoming TLC series The Baldwins and why they are thrilled to have Alec Baldwin joining the likes of Kody Brown and John Gosselin. Shop Clean Simple Eats protein powder and use code POPAPOLOGISTS for 10% off! Go to EarlyBirdCBD.com to get our favorite CBD/THC gummies and use code POPAPOLOGISTS20 for 20% off. To support the show, consider subscribing on Patreon, where you can get a bonus episode of Pop Apologists every Friday! Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Lauren and Chan are joined by Ryan from the So Bad It's Good with Ryan Bailey podcast to talk all about part 3 of the Vanderpump Rules Reunion. They chat all about what they loved about this season of VPR, which cast members have shown the most (and least) amount of growth, and what they would love to see in future seasons of VPR. Plus, Ryan and Lauren talk all about Ryan's recent Eras Tour experience in Stockholm and how they think Taylor Swift's music and career will evolve over the next decade. Shop Clean Simple Eats protein powder and use code POPAPOLOGISTS for 10% off! Go to EarlyBirdCBD.com to get our favorite CBD/THC gummies and use code POPAPOLOGISTS20 for 20% off. To support the show, consider subscribing on Patreon, where you can get a bonus episode of Pop Apologists every Friday! Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Lauren and Chan chat about the latest developments in the never-ending Brad Pitt vs. Angelina Jolie lawsuit. The gals dive into the subtle statement from Brad and Angelina's children and what it says about what likely happened behind closed doors at the Jolie-Pitt home. They discuss the latest airplane horror story involving a flight traveling from Doha to Dublin, which comes just a week after the disastrous Singapore Airlines flight that killed 1 and injured 30 others. Finally, Lauren and Chan take a look at Bethenny Frankel's latest TikTok antics, where she takes a note from Pretty Woman and then accuses a luxury brand of being *gasp* elitist. Shop Clean Simple Eats protein powder and use code POPAPOLOGISTS for 10% off! Go to EarlyBirdCBD.com to get our favorite CBD/THC gummies and use code POPAPOLOGISTS20 for 20% off. To support the show, consider subscribing on Patreon, where you can get a bonus episode of Pop Apologists every Friday! Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Lauren and Chan chat about the pop culture topics of the moment including the Ashley Madison documentary, Baby Reindeer, The Jinx Part 2, video footage showing Diddy assaulting Cassie Ventura + his "apology", Taylor and Travis's vacation to Lake Como, Ben and J. Lo's marital woes, and another Boeing catastrophe. Plus, the gals discuss health updates for Kate Middleton and Chan. Finally, the ladies ask for listener suggestions on any true crime cases that should be featured as a future deep dive episodes. LINK TO THE HAIR TOOL <3 Shop Clean Simple Eats protein powder and use code POPAPOLOGISTS for 10% off! Go to EarlyBirdCBD.com to get our favorite CBD/THC gummies and use code POPAPOLOGISTS20 for 20% off. To support the show, consider subscribing on Patreon, where you can get a bonus episode of Pop Apologists every Friday! Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Lauren and Chan chat about Dorit & PK's separation announcement, which was rumored to have been coming for months. The gals discuss Meghan Markle and Prince Harry's recent trip to Nigeria, where Meghan referred to Nigeria "my country." They dive into Justin and Hailey Bieber's pregnancy announcement + vow renewal as well as Selena Gomez's well-timed decision to turn off Instagram comments the week before the pregnancy announcement. Finally, Lauren and Chan chat about The Eras Tour's most recent shows, which now feature music from TTPD, and Travis supporting Taylor at her final Paris show. Shop Clean Simple Eats protein powder and use code POPAPOLOGISTS for 10% off! Go to EarlyBirdCBD.com to get our favorite CBD/THC gummies and use code POPAPOLOGISTS20 for 20% off. To support the show, consider subscribing on Patreon, where you can get a bonus episode of Pop Apologists every Friday! Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Lauren and Chan discuss the 2024 Met Gala looks and decide which attendees understood the theme and which ones missed the mark. The gals rate looks by Zendaya, Amelia Grey, EmRata, Lana Del Rey, Sydney Sweeney, Lauren Sánchez and more. Lauren shares a shocking bit of Jeff Bezos gossip that sounds almost too crazy to believe. They chat about Kim Kardashian being booed during Tom Brady's roast and which roast jokes went a little too far. Lauren and Chan dive into the lives of Tom Cruise and Nicole Kidman's adult children and how Katie Holmes likely saw the writing on the wall with Suri years ago. The gals touch on Bethenny Frankel and Paul Bernon's breakup and why they believe the relationship was doomed from the start. Finally, they chat about Nick Viall's nightmare honeymoon, which serves as a cautionary tale for all. Shop Clean Simple Eats protein powder and use code POPAPOLOGISTS for 10% off! Go to EarlyBirdCBD.com to get our favorite CBD/THC gummies and use code POPAPOLOGISTS20 for 20% off. To support the show, consider subscribing on Patreon, where you can get a bonus episode of Pop Apologists every Friday! Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This week the gals chat about Chanler's experience chasing the solar eclipse and a recent psychic reading Lauren had done that she hoped would lead to further information about Kate Middleton. They then dive into Morgan Wallen's love sick chair-throwing episode that landed him in the slammer over the weekend. Chanler leads us through the accusations of Rebel Wilson against Sacha Baron Cohen and finally, the gals revisit the concept of children forced to protest on behalf of their activist parents. Shop Clean Simple Eats protein powder and use code POPAPOLOGISTS for 10% off! Go to EarlyBirdCBD.com to get our favorite CBD/THC gummies and use code POPAPOLOGISTS20 for 20% off. To support the show, consider subscribing on Patreon, where you can get a bonus episode of Pop Apologists every Friday! Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Lauren and Chan chat about the emergence of new AI robots hitting the scene, which AI practices the gals cannot get on board with, and why AI may end up helping them achieve their dreams of living their best Ballerina Farm lives. They dive into the New York Post article that discussed why women love dad bods, specifically putting Travis Kelce into the dad bod category. Lauren and Chan take a look at the different physical standards that exist for men vs. women and why they are loving the photos they have recently seen of Taylor Swift on vacation with Travis Kelce. The gals take a look at the lawsuit between former RHOC couple Shannon Beador and John Janssen, in which John is suing Shannon for $75,000. Finally, Lauren and Chan introduce a new segment, Pop Apologists Golden Moment, where they share some of the best stories from early episodes of the podcast. To support the show, consider subscribing on Patreon, where you can get a bonus episode of Pop Apologists every Friday! Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Lauren and Chanler are joined by Kate Casey to unpack the new MAX series, "Quiet on Set." But first, the blonde trio debrief on Kate Middleton and get Kate's expert opinion on where exactly Kensington Palace failed their princess in their PR fumbling of the century. The gals also touch on very troubling news re: Gerry the Golden Bachelor and Theresa Nist before diving into the disturbing docu-series that has everyone glued to their screens in horror. Listen along as Lauren, Chanler, and Kate discuss the toxic work environment on Dan Schneider's hit Nickelodeon children's tv show sets, including "The Amanda Show" and "All That." The gals discuss the humiliations and sexual assaults the cast and crew on these shows endured and question the moral murkiness of child stardom in today's world. Buckle in...listener discretion is advised. Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Lauren and Chanler sit down to discuss the raid of P. Diddy's homes in Los Angeles, NYC, and Miami as federal authorities search of evidence of the rapper's crimes. The gals discuss his misdeeds up until this point and the current accusations against him by his former producer, Rodney 'Lil Rod' Jones. After detailing these unsavory allegations, Lauren and Chan move onto decidedly lighter subject matter and discuss the new photos of Travis Kelce and Taylor Swift on vacation in the Bahamas. The girls also share their joy at the news that Meghan Markle is launching a lifestyle brand, "American Riviera Orchard." They chat the merits of this name, brand names they believe hit the cutting room floor, and what they are excited to see from the duchess's forthcoming luxury empire. Finally, Lauren and Chan discuss the new developments in the Ruby Franke case. To support the show, consider subscribing on Patreon, where you can get a bonus episode of Pop Apologists every Friday! Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Lauren and Chanler sit down to discuss the tragic announcement that Kate made via video statement on Friday to the world. They give their full thoughts on the video statement, including how they now feel about their "Where TF is Kate" series given the news. The gals discuss the timing of the announcement, whether the royal family can be trusted, and why this conversation matters more than every at a time when faith in institutions is at an all-time low. They also get into the mysterious death of the Boeing whistleblower, a man who died just as he was supplying information in court about alleged negligence in one of the largest aviation companies in the world. Finally, Lauren and Chan debrief on Ariana finally moving out of the house she and Tom Sandoval shared. Buckle in! To support the show, consider subscribing on Patreon, where you can get a bonus episode of Pop Apologists every Friday! Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Lauren and Chan are ready with a deep dive on Anne Hathaway, including their personal psychological evaluation as to why Anne seems to provoke so many feelings of consternation and ire among the public. Despite starring in a slew of beloved movies, hosting the Oscars in 2012, and winning the Oscar for best supporting actress in 2013, there was a growing amount of backlash against Anne. The gals take a closer look at why many members of the public have strong negative feelings about Anne, discuss whether they believe these feelings are warranted, or if the public needs to give Anne a break. Hear all about Anne's high profile romance with Raffaello Follieri, a fraudster who was sentenced to 4 years in prison following an FBI investigation immediately following their relationship. Finally, buckle in as Lauren and Chan deliver their verdict on whether they are pro-Anne Hathaway or if the Hathahate has any merit. Shop Clean Simple Eats protein powder and use code POPAPOLOGISTS for 10% off! To support the show, consider subscribing on Patreon, where you can get a bonus episode of Pop Apologists every Friday! Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

A deep dive that covers the dating history of the internet's ex-boyfriend, John Mayer. Hear all about John's known relationships and hookups, what he has to say about his time with them and vice versa, whose body is actually a wonderland, and what John Mayer wants in a partner now. For a man who hasn't dated anyone publicly in the past decade, women everywhere are still reeling over John's disastrous 2010 Playboy interview and the bombshells dropped in Jessica Simpson's memoir Open Book. One question remains: Is John Mayer still the same man who inspired songs like Dear John, or has he grown enough to learn from his past and actually have a lasting relationship? Buckle in, because it's going to be a bumpy ride! Shop Clean Simple Eats protein powder and use code POPAPOLOGISTS for 10% off! To support the show, consider subscribing on Patreon, where you can get a bonus episode of Pop Apologists every Friday! Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Lauren and Chan are ready with a deep dive on former Good Morning America anchors TJ Holmes and Amy Robach. These co-workers captured headlines in December 2022 when their workplace romance unexpectedly went public. The big problem? They were both married to other people at the time. Listen in as the gals shed some light on the known timeline of their relationship, which is a lot murkier than TJ and Amy are wanting to admit. Hear about the dramatic fallout that resulted from their relationship and how this couple has attempted to rebuild their careers as a couple, far from the bright lights of the Good Morning America set. Finally, Lauren gives her shocking theory about this couple and why things might change now that the lavender haze has faded from this relationship. Shop Clean Simple Eats protein powder and use code POPAPOLOGISTS for 10% off! To support the show, consider subscribing on Patreon, where you can get a bonus episode of Pop Apologists every Friday! Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

In honor of the upcoming episode on scams, Lauren and Chan discuss one of the biggest scams of all that is somehow accepted as normal. Chan recounts the recent simple favor she did for Lauren that turned out to be a complicated hellscape. Lauren and Chan give their full Grammy awards debrief, including the fashion hits and misses of some of their favorite artists. The gals discuss which artist really deserves more recognition for her lyrical genius and which performances brought them joy. Finally, they discuss the biggest bombshell of the night: Taylor Swift announcing her 11th studio album-The Tortured Poets Department coming out April 19. Lauren and Chan discuss everything they know about this album: the easter eggs, the song titles, and why this album will likely answer all of the questions they have had about Taylor and Joe's relationship and breakup. Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Welcome to The Trial of David Foster, where Lauren and Chan examine this Canadian songwriter & producer's marriages and misdeeds. Listen as the gals dive into David's five marriages to discuss his relationship patterns and the toll it has taken on those in his orbit. Join Lauren and Chan as the judge, jury, and executioner regarding this man's bad behavior, complete with the gals' take on why David hated being on Real Housewives of Beverly Hills + why they think he and Yolanda Hadid (wife #4) split. Finally, listen in as Lauren and Chan discuss the interview where Katherine McPhee (wife #5) tells the tale of her and David's love. Buckle in, because this is a trial you won't want to miss. Shop Clean Simple Eats protein powder and use code POPAPOLOGISTS for 10% off! To support the show, consider subscribing on Patreon, where you can get a bonus episode of Pop Apologists every Friday! Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Today we are so excited to have Dr. Jonathan Zelken on the podcast. Dr. Zelken is a board certified plastic surgeon based in Newport Beach, CA. After receiving his undergraduate degree in biology from Cornell University, he continued on to a degree in medicine at Tufts University, completed his plastic surgery training at Johns Hopkins Hospital, and then completed a microsurgery fellowship in Taiwan to further perfect his technique. Dr. Zelkin has learned from the best of the best to become one of the country's leading plastic surgeons, specializing in facelifts, facial contouring, and a wide variety of plastic surgery techniques since opening his practice in 2016. Dr. Zelken's website and Instagram account are full of stunning before and after photos, featuring his flawless work and attention to the smallest of details on a wide variety of procedures. As the facelift expert of Newport Beach, Dr. Zelken is making his patients look like they are aging backwards, and we are so excited to hear his thoughts on all things related to plastic surgery. Shop Clean Simple Eats protein powder and use code POPAPOLOGISTS for 10% off! To support the show, consider subscribing on Patreon, where you can get a bonus episode of Pop Apologists every Friday! Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This week the gals discuss: Alexis Bellino from RHOC and John Janssen are Instagram official, and Lauren and Chan have so many thoughts on this pairing #housewivesgrifter Kristen Taekman from RHONYC is on the newest Real Housewives Ultimate Girl's Trip, and she has made a few statements that have Lauren and Chan scratching their heads. Take a trip down memory lane to her husband Josh's less than upstanding past and hear where the math isn't mathing. Heather Durrow's recent statements about her family's approach to alcohol and her response to whether she has been disappointed to with her children has the gals floored. Hear all about Lauren and Chan's New Years resolutions and resignations, including why Chanler will never be able to pull a Pamela Anderson, why Lauren will never get a Mr. Big/Simon van Kempen moment in Cartier. Plus, hear all about Lauren's New Year's celebration with a very unexpected end. Shop Clean Simple Eats protein powder and use code POPAPOLOGISTS for 10% off! To support the show, consider subscribing on Patreon, where you can get a bonus episode of Pop Apologists every Friday! Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Lauren and Chan are so excited to have Madi from The Bad Broadcast on the podcast as they chat the things they know in their 30's that they didn't know in their 20's. Listen in to hear some life lessons from three Bad Broads who occasionally have it all together, including feelings about karma, the value in investing in relationships, thoughts on cutting off friendships, left swipes being as important as the right swipes, thoughts on the Carrie Bradshaw life, why your 30's are so much better than your 20's, the three things Madi keeps on hand at all times, and Chan's words of warning to all 20 somethings. Plus, enjoy some hilarious stories about Madi's recent surprise gambling bender, the special hell that are podcast reviews, and baby name ideas. Click here to try the most magical gummies by EarlyBird CBD! Use code POPAPOLOGISTS for 20% off! Shop Clean Simple Eats protein powder and use code POPAPOLOGISTS for 10% off! To support the show, consider subscribing on Patreon, where you can get a bonus episode of Pop Apologists every Friday! Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This week Lauren and Chan are joined by Kate Casey from Reality Life with Kate Casey as they dive into the fascinating world of the Mother God cult featured in the HBO docuseries "Love Has Won: The Cult of Mother God." Hear about cult leader Amy Carlson's beliefs, including being 19 million year old and being helped by a team of dead celebrities, led by Robin Williams. The gals discuss Mother God's rise to power and the bizarre practices she and her followers would take part in as part of their community. This docuseries is like a slow motion disaster- you can't believe what you are seeing, but you also can't look away. Lauren, Chan, and Kate also talk about their favorite reality topics: The Golden Bachelor, Sister Wives, and Paris Hilton. Hear who Kate feels is the most powerful woman in unscripted television, as well as a genius idea for a TLC spinoff show. Click here to try the most magical gummies by EarlyBird CBD! Use code POPAPOLOGISTS for 20% off! Shop Clean Simple Eats protein powder and use code POPAPOLOGISTS for 10% off! To support the show, consider subscribing on Patreon, where you can get a bonus episode of Pop Apologists every Friday! Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Lauren and Chan are back chatting the stress of longevity protocols and the hilarity of child-free adults offering parenting advice. They discuss the show Paris in Love. Lauren has some very strong feelings about Paris's husband and shares what gives her the biggest ick. Lauren and Chan dive into the gems that exist in People magazine, which was so kind to check up on how Justin Timberlake is doing after his harrowing month. They chat William and Kate's "sexy ass Gap ad" Christmas card, which leads them to chat quiet luxury vs. the obvious flex. Taylor Swift's birthday is coming up, and Travis has some fantastic surprises in the works, and the gals have some thoughts about it. In a truly glass half full attitude, Lauren and Chan have found ways to applaud Kanye's wife Bianca Censori's recent style efforts. Details of Todd Chrisley's prison stay are out and things are looking rough. Callout to Kim Kardashian, because Todd needs her help. The gals answer some recent listener questions: ⁃Chan's non-alcoholic wine recommendations ⁃Lauren and Chan's Christmas wishlists Lauren and Chan finally discuss the trailer for the upcoming season of Vanderpump Rules, which is truly teasing some amazing drama to come. Click here to try the most magical gummies by EarlyBird CBD! Use code POPAPOLOGISTS for 20% off! Shop Clean Simple Eats protein powder and use code POPAPOLOGISTS for 10% off! To support the show, consider subscribing on Patreon, where you can get a bonus episode of Pop Apologists every Friday! Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Lauren and Chan chat anniversary celebrations and the unexpected horrors of living in New York. They get into their love for Oprah and the dilemma that she might be facing after her recent public appearance. The gals then break down the Golden Bachelor finale & after the final rose special. They talk about Gerry's relationship with one of his ladies completely unraveling after a seemingly wonderful night in the fantasy suite, and why it was actually a good thing in the long run. They also chat about Gerry and his final lady racing to the televised altar in January, "because who knows how much time we have left." After reading the Hollywood Reporter article on Gerry and seeing Gerry's reaction over an unexpected trip, Lauren and Chan are confident that Gerry has an insufferable trait that gives them the ick in a big way. *spoiler alert: They will be talking about which senior citizen was offered the final rose* Lauren and Chan then get into the latest drama with the Markles of Montecito and the names that were revealed as allegedly commenting on Archie's skin color. Finally, a quick moment on Morgan Wade appearing in RHOBH with Kyle! Click here to try the most magical gummies by EarlyBird CBD! Use code POPAPOLOGISTS for 20% off! Shop Clean Simple Eats protein powder and use code POPAPOLOGISTS for 10% off! To support the show, consider subscribing on Patreon, where you can get a bonus episode of Pop Apologists every Friday! Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

The gals chat Taylor going straight to Kansas City and, ostensibly, into the arms of Travis Kelce after her traumatic experience in Brazil. They discuss The Eras Tour in São Paulo, where the family of Ana Clara Benevides attended the final show in Brazil. Lauren and Chan share some insider tea about Taylor Swift's concert preparation, and what she did differently for her last night in São Paulo. They also chat about Real Housewives of Beverly Hills, where viewers learn more about Erika and her upbringing, as well as the difference in Kyle's friendship with Dorit vs. Sutton. Finally, Lauren and Chan talk about Real Housewives of Salt Lake City showing some surprising vulnerability and which marriage the gals are rooting for. Click here to try the most magical gummies by EarlyBird CBD! Use code POPAPOLOGISTS for 20% off! Shop Clean Simple Eats protein powder and use code POPAPOLOGISTS for 10% off! To support the show, consider subscribing on Patreon, where you can get a bonus episode of Pop Apologists every Friday! Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This week Lauren and Chan are chatting about what is happening on Real Housewives of Beverly Hills, including lots of lunches and a meme-worthy moment. They discuss the lawsuit that was filed and quickly settled between Cassie and P Diddy, as well as the major red flags they have seen around P Diddy over the years. Lauren and Chan break down the WSJ article on Travis Kelce, where he just continues to impress and show why he might be exactly what Taylor needs.Finally, they discuss the tragedy at Taylor Swift's recent show in Brazil. Click here to try the most magical gummies by EarlyBird CBD! Use code POPAPOLOGISTS for 20% off! Shop Clean Simple Eats protein powder and use code POPAPOLOGISTS for 10% off! To support the show, consider subscribing on Patreon, where you can get a bonus episode of Pop Apologists every Friday! Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This week Lauren and Chan are breaking down the biggest moments from Bravo Con 2023: -What Kyle Richards revealed during her RHOBH panel discussion, and what recent actions from Mauricio have the gals shaking their heads. -Who is coming through as an unlikely Tom Sandoval ally, and why we think Tom keeps showing up, despite being the franchise pariah. -Why Bethenny's "Reality Takedown" is more of a "Reality Raindrop." -What is the likelihood of Heather Dubrow switching franchises, and which Housewives franchise could use a total reboot. -How we know that a certain Housewife will not be returning for a second season. -An overview + new details from the Heather McDonald and Jeff Lewis drama Click here to try the most magical gummies by EarlyBird CBD! Use code POPAPOLOGISTS for 20% off! Shop Clean Simple Eats protein powder and use code POPAPOLOGISTS for 10% off! To support the show, consider subscribing on Patreon, where you can get a bonus episode of Pop Apologists every Friday! Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This week we posit an aching question: Is the Golden Bachelor, Gerry Turner, potentially too good to be true? We are then thrilled to welcome our guest Zack Peter from "No Filter By Zack Peter" to the podcast to discuss everything Real Housewives! We chat all about RHONY and why Zack would give the season a B- , Bethenny's Reality Reckoning and what we think Bethenny is really after, and RHOBH's unraveling marriages. We also touch on a Dorit and PK conspiracy theory, and Zack's interview with Erika Jayne, where no topic was off-limits. Click here to try the most magical gummies by EarlyBird CBD! Use code POPAPOLOGISTS for 20% off! To support the show, consider subscribing on Patreon, where you can get a bonus episode of Pop Apologists every Friday! Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This week on the podcast Chan is sent into a tailspin at the running store, Lauren shares her unexpected bonding moment with her dad, and they both share pearls of wisdom from their mom. Chatting about celebrity divorces gets Lauren to wax philosophical about good men vs. weak men and is mentioning it all, specifically which celebrities continually disappoint, and which ones must be protected at all costs. They unpack part one of the RHONY reunion, including who was bringing their fashion A-game, which Housewives got a taste of their own medicine, and which RHONY husband the gals can't help but love. Lauren and Chan discuss the newest episode of The Kardashians, including the questions they have for Kim and the old saying they'd like to impart on Khloe. To support the show, consider subscribing on Patreon, where you can get a bonus episode of Pop Apologists every Friday! Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Lauren and Chan chat about the latest happenings with their favorite new couple, Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce, and why they think that these two A-listers could end up going the distance. Lauren and Chan are here to give their advice on listener questions! Listen to hear their thoughts on: -whether you should tell people you are on Ozempic -if they feel sad they don't live in the same city as their sisters -how to get sisters to become friends -how fast is too fast to be moving on after a breakup -parenting do's & don'ts for your 20 year old daughter -how to handle when you and your fiancé are dreaming of very different weddings -how to deal with a chronically late mother in law on your wedding day To support the show, consider subscribing on Patreon, where you can get a bonus episode of Pop Apologists every Friday! Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Lauren and Chan give their thoughts on the David Beckham documentary- both the truly stunning as well as the surprisingly garish. Seeing David and Victoria Beckham in their editorially controlled element was a stunning sight that may have the gals watching more soccer, ahem, football in the future. Lauren and Chan then chatted the newest episode of RHONY, which had them reversing their opinions about which cast members they were loving, and why the mean girl antics of a few Housewives really left a bad taste in their mouth. They then dug into the rumors that Mauricio Umansky may have a new woman on his arm, and why the gals are exhausted with the mental ping pong that is taking place with Mauricio and Kyle. Finally, they discussed Matthew McConaughey's appearance on Smartness and why Chan was ready to take a cold shower after listening. To support the show, consider subscribing on Patreon, where you can get a bonus episode of Pop Apologists every Friday! Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This week the gals dive into the premiere of The Golden Bachelor, including all their thoughts on the tan-skinned, 71 year old hunk Gerry and his bevy of ABC beauties. Listen along as Lauren and Chan debrief on who they think is the frontrunner and which moment made them CRINGE. They also get into all things RHONY, including their thoughts on Jenna , Brynn, and Erin. Finally they discuss Taylor attending Travis's game in NY and Kyle's chat with paparazzi at LAX. To support the show, consider subscribing on Patreon, where you can get a bonus episode of Pop Apologists every Friday! Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Lauren and Chan are taking listeners on a deep dive that covers the rise and fall of Ruby Franke, the Utah mommy vlogger behind the former YouTube channel 8 Passengers. Before they get into the deep dive, special guests Courtney Grow and Kyle DeFord join Chan for an emergency Taylor Swift/Travis Kelce debrief, as this couple could be the uniting force that this country so desperately needs. Lauren and Chan chat about the early days of 8 Passengers, which had 2.8 million subscribers at its peak. Subscribers would watch Ruby give parenting advice and glimpses into her family's life. There were definite warning signs of abuse going on behind the scenes, and Lauren and Chan discuss specific instances where it was clear that all was not well with this family. When Ruby and her business partner/counselor Jodi Hildebrant were arrested in August 2023, former 8 Passengers fans were horrified to learn of the abuses that the Franke children had endured and were also left with many questions. The gals discuss two people who have been victimized by Jodi Hildebrandt, which shows the damage that can be done when someone exercises tyrannical power over another. They also discuss the lingering million dollar question: Where was the father Kevin Franke when his children were enduring such abusive conditions? Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Lauren and Chan kick off this week's episode with some criticism toward those who seem to have a little too much luxury in their DNA, the Dubrow children. It seems they have left their nouveau riche nest before gaining some life skills, and the gals have some thoughts about it. Lauren and Chan then dissect Olivia Rodrigo's new album Guts and the songs that are allegedly about Taylor Swift. They chat about Taylor and Olivia's falling out with the release of her first album Sour, and why Taylor's actions may have been especially devastating to Olivia. The gals chatted about the ever relatable Meghan Markle and her perfectly photographed visit to In-N-Out. Lauren and Chan finished the episode with a follow up discussion of Danny Masterson's sentencing, and their utter disgust with Ashton Kutcher and Mila Kunis for providing character statements. Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

SHOP THE "LUXURY IS IN MY DNA" MERCH DROP HERE! On today's episode, the gals are breaking down the contentious divorce proceedings of Kevin Costner and his soon to be ex-wife Christine, as well as the trouble in paradise for Chanler's favorite boy bander, Joe Jonas and his wife Sophie Turner. Lauren and Chan dive into Kevin Costner's first divorce, where ex-wife, Cindy Silva, made out like a bandit in their divorce proceedings. This explains why Kevin had an ironclad prenup with second wife Christine, which leaves her with very little in comparison. Despite her most tearful and dramatic efforts at gaining Judge sympathy and claiming their children are so used to living in luxury that it's "in their DNA at this point" she was not granted her request of $249,000 a month in child support. Christine is now living a nightmare, complete with a luxury 4-bedroom Montecito rental where her children have to share a bathroom with nary an ocean view in sight. The gals don't know how she is going to get by on her $60,000 a month child support payment and are sending their thoughts and prayers. Lauren and Chan also discuss all the evidence that indicates a split between Chan's adolescent love Joe Jonas and wife Sophie Turner is imminent. They go through the timeline of the couple's relationship as well as the warning signs that divorce could be looming. Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

CLICK HERE TO LISTEN! This week on Patreon, we celebrate Chan getting a well deserved promotion at work! At Lauren's insistence, Chan marked the occasion by treating herself to some quiet luxury from 5th Avenue. We briefly consider changing the name of the podcast to "Liquor Talk" after becoming Morgan Wallen fans. This idea is quickly scrapped after making two very important important considerations. Chan just finished Jessica Simpson's memoir Open Book, and we have some thoughts about Jessica and John Mayer's on and off relationship in the early 2000's. We discuss what we would really like to see on RHONY instead of the fake nonsense drama that is continually featured on Real Housewives. Finally, we share our opinions about the Kardashian's and Jenners's "evolving aesthetics" and why we feel rage over their years of gaslighting everyone. Tap below to hear it all: CLICK HERE TO LISTEN! Head to casitajewelry.com to get any piece of jewelry 30% off during the month of August using code POPAPOLOGISTS The Pop Apologists $500 shopping spree giveaway is open until August 15! To enter, post a link to your favorite Pop Apologists episode, why you love the podcast on your Instagram stories, and tag @popapologists Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Lauren and Chan chat about another misstep by the Montecito Markles, as reports have come out detailing one of the more recent examples of the couple's entitled behavior, this time being their request to join President Joe Biden and Dr. Jill on AIR FORCE ONE following the Queen's funeral. Their requests were declined, as one cannot just hitch a ride with the President, Sussexes or not. This blunder serves as a reminder that maybe the Bidens are not as Team Sussex as the Markles might hope, despite Meghan thinking that Dr. Jill had sent her cloaked messages of support in the form of Oscar De La Renta fashion choices. The gals then dive into the persistent rumors that there is trouble in paradise for Harry and Meghan on both the financial and relationship fronts. As most of their business deals have not panned out, and they have not become Oprah-level dignitaries, they seem to be at a crossroads. Lauren and Chan eagerly await the return of Meghan's Instagram and are ready to click on her Reward Style links, should that blessed day ever come. They leave the road from Montecito and take a much darker road to Gilgo Beach, where Chan leads a deep dive on the Gilgo Beach Murders and the recent arrest of Rex Heuermann, a married father of two and *gasp* architect. From being an unsolved case that plagued Long Island, learn how investigators cracked the cold case using cell phone data, new DNA testing, and a major tip from the "handler" of one of the murder victims. This case is absolutely horrifying, and serves as a chilling reminder that there are people out there who have secret double lives. The Pop Apologists $500 shopping spree giveaway is open until August 15! To enter, post a link to your favorite Pop Apologists episode, why you love the podcast on your Instagram stories, and tag @popapologists. Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

The gals give their thoughts on Raquel Leviss going back to her birth name of Rachel, and why it might do her some to good to lay low for another 3-6 months before returning to the scene as wholesome Rachel. Lauren tells Chan about a recent drunken night where she and Kagen watched the 2020 Taylor Swift documentary on Netflix. In a moment of true marital bliss, Kagen saw the light and suggested that he and Lauren go to one of Taylor's concerts. It was quite possibly the easiest "yes!" of Lauren's life, second only to saying yes to Kagen's marriage proposal. Lauren and Chan dig into the newest season of The Kardashians, specifically Kim and Kourtney's feud that reached a fever pitch after Kourtney's wedding. The gals discuss why Kim feels an extra level of competition with Kourtney and why she can't take joy in Kourtney's happiness. Lauren and Chan aren't fighting over Italian weddings and Dolce and Gabbana campaigns, but they can relate to the sister strife that comes when when they both want to have their own identities and individual brands. Regardless, Lauren and Chan agree that family is their top priority, which doesn't always seem to be the case for the Kardashians when they get a fantastic business opportunity. Finally, Lauren and Chan discuss the mysterious case of Carlee Russell, the woman who disappeared without a trace after allegedly seeing a toddler wandering on the side of the highway, only to return home 48 hours later. Mainstream media is giving one set of facts, but the detectives at TikTok are painting an entirely different picture. The $500 shopping spree giveaway is open until August 15th! Enter by posting an Instagram story that tags @popapologists and contains a link to your favorite episode of the podcast. Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This week's episode starts off with a bang with the gals revisiting two separate concerts they have ruined for their mother Deb, including the worst thing Chan has ever done at the tender age of 16. The gravity of injustice Chan put her mother through during what should have been an evening of joy still renders her speechless 11 years later. After watching Titanic with her husband, Kagen, Lauren is worried that her marriage has also hit an iceberg and is now sinking, since Kagen is convinced that Lauren wouldn't jump off a life boat and go back to the Titanic for him, a la Rose and Jack. The gals talk about their hall passes, what needs to happen for the hall pass to be green lit (hint: it's very different for men and women), and whether Chan's hall pass was accidentally used last year. Their favorite grifters are the subject of a scathing Wall Street Journal article called Harry and Meghan Produce a Royal Flop: Themselves. They discuss some truly tacky behavior from H&M, and issue yet another plea for the type of content the people are actually interested in seeing from the Sussexes. The gals give their thoughts on Taylor Swift declining Meghan Markle's handwritten invitation to appear on the Archetypes podcast through a representative and why Taylor's loyalties likely lie across the pond with Prince William. Finally, Lauren and Chan weigh in on Taylor Swift's plea to Swifties to leave John Mayer alone and immediately plays the song Dear John during her concert in preparation for Speak Now (Taylor's version) coming out next month. Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode. To support the show on Patreon and access our 100+ bonus episodes, including our Royal's Deep Dive, click here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Lauren talks her newfound love for TikTok, and why its users are a unique brand of unhinged. Hear some of their favorite comments from their TikTok videos. The gals also give an assessment on a review that calls them Pick Me Girls and even break out Urban Dictionary to consider the accusation. They then discuss the inception of Kim Kardashian's launch into fame with supporting players Ray J and Kris Jenner. The narrative accepted by many versus the alleged facts are very different and darker than they originally thought. Lauren & Chan also break down Kanye West's problematic, misogynistic 46th birthday party, and Chan gives her family friendly hopes for his next birthday celebration. Finally, hear all their thoughts on Tom Girardi's mental competence and Erica's role in the deceit. MERCH IS HERE! Click here to check out our limited drop of Work Soft hoodies and hats. Get yours before they're gone! To support the show on Patreon and access our 100+ bonus episodes, including our Royal's Deep Dive, click here! Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Lauren shares her philosophy on why she sold her wedding dress and why it's time to normalize selling wedding dresses. Chan discusses adventures in camping as a New York City resident. After hearing Lauren's unshackled thoughts on the Vanderpump Rules reunion part two last week, it's Chan's turn to give her take. The gals get into Taylor Swift and Matty Healy's breakup and the purpose they believe Matty played in Taylor's life. They discuss Natalie Portman's husband, Benjamin Millipied, having an affair with a 25 year old climate activist and discuss some hard truths about men who have character and fidelity flaws. Finally, they cover upcoming travel mini episodes and the two podcasts that they are loving right now! ***If you love this podcast, please hit follow or subscribe! Share your favorite episodes on your Instagram stories! Help us grow! MERCH IS HERE! Click here to check out our limited drop of Work Soft hoodies and hats. Get yours before they're gone! To support the show on Patreon and access our 100+ bonus episodes, including our Royal's Deep Dive, click here! Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

The gals are so excited to have Victoria from J. Brooks Jewelers joining the podcast today to talk about all things fine jewelry. Listen and learn, because Victoria knows exactly what to look for in a fine jewelry purchase and has her finger on the pulse of all things trending in jewelry right now. Today we cover: The real difference between a high quality jeweler compared to online low priced retailers The reasons why a jewelry piece online might be priced much lower than similar items... it's not always because you're getting a great deal Victoria walks Lauren and Chan through exactly what people should be looking for in a diamond and what will start altering the visual quality of their piece Why J. Brooks Jewelers are so particular about the cut of a diamond Engagement ring trends: Lab grown vs. natural diamonds Instagram giving everyone diamond dysmorphia The difference between natural diamonds, lab grown diamonds, and moissanite The cash vs. trade resale value on diamonds The best non-engagement ring investment piece someone can buy The best watch brands that hold their value All about the J. Brooks Bridal Collection The difference between gold, gold plated, and gold vermeil The investment value of quality jewelry pieces over quantity The history of the Chan chain necklace The history behind J. Brooks jewelers 2023 fine jewelry trends J. Brooks and Pop Apologists have partnered up for a fantastic giveaway! One winner will receive $1,000 to spend at J. Brooks! Listen to the episode and head to our Instagram account for all the details. This episode is brought to you by J Brooks Jewelers and Pop Apologists. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

A nostalgia ep! In honor of Mother's Day, we are chatting all the lessons Deb taught us as kids growing up. But before we dig into Lessons from the Book of Deb, we cover some hot topics in pop culture including swirling rumors that Joe cheated on Taylor, Scandoval updates, and Harry & Meghan having dinner with Gwyneth Paltrow & Brad Falchuck. MERCH IS HERE! Click here to check out our limited drop of Work Soft hoodies and hats. Get yours before they're gone! To support the show on Patreon and access our 100+ bonus episodes, including our Royal's Deep Dive, click here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Join us today as we do a deep dive into the horrific case of Lori Vallow, who is currently on trial in Idaho for the murder of her two children, JJ and Tylee and conspiracy to commit murder of her husband Chad Daybell's first wife, Tammy Daybell. We discuss how this seemingly typical mother of three became entangled in religious extremism and end of days fringe groups, which led to delusions of being an exalted being who is tasked with removing the dark spirits that have taken over bodies of loved ones, and leading the 144,000 to the second coming. TW: This episode discussed the gruesome details of murder, specifically the murder of children. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

We discuss Sophia Richie's wedding, the leaked letter from Meghan Markle and King Charles, Taylor Swift papped 3x in NYC, Blake Lively's lack of a stylist and our, The Great Unfollowing (TM Chanler Bledsoe), VPR, & Savannah Chrisley's troublesome Southwest flight. To support the show on Patreon and access our 100+ bonus episodes, including our Royal's Deep Dive, click here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This week the gals catch up with some of pop culture's hot topics: Coachella: where people wait two hours for gross nachos and you can't find a port-a-potty anywhere. Megan King helped Lauren's Coachella FOMO evaporate with an all to real account of the hellscape that is a music festival. Princess Kate's "deep regret" and the real reason why Meghan isn't attending the King's coronation next month. Kravis's wedding special on Hulu, which had some highs (gorgeous photos and a fantastic yacht) and some lows (impersonal toasts "You guys are the best" and MGK's performance). Why Leonardo DiCaprio needs to pick a lane: Is he saving the environment with Greta Thunburg or rocking a gold chain at Coachella? To support the show on Patreon and access our 100+ bonus episodes, including our Royal's Deep Dive, click here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Today we sit down with our beloved sister, Courtney, to chat about the importance of maintaining a sense of self and identity while raising kids. Courtney shares her fertility journey and the wisdom she wishes she had had during her years struggling to get pregnant and then white-knuckling through her three pregnancies. We chat the importance of putting energy into your relationship with your partner while raising young children and how clear priorities can help set a foundation of peace in the home. Next week we will be back with part two of our conversation on all things bouncing back after giving birth, fitness, and nutrition. To support the show on Patreon and access our 100+ bonus episodes, including our Royal's Deep Dive, click here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

You absolutely NEED to listen to this episode if you ever book a vacation. We cover: Why would someone book a vacation with a travel advisor rather than booking online themselves? What to look for when planning an African safari Where to get the best bang for your buck Whether it's a good time to travel to Asia, as well as which countries have lesser known experiences Luxury all-inclusive resorts The best timeline for booking a hotel How to plan a trip to Europe, especially Italy, when the prices are higher than they have ever been Distinctions between Belmond, Aman, and Auberge properties Lesser known luxury vacation options and experiences Finding good deals in Greece Options for families who are traveling on a budget To support the show on Patreon and access our 100+ bonus episodes, including our Royal's Deep Dive, click here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Lauren and Chan talk about Taylor Swift's Eras Tour, Vanderpump Rules updates, The Crown season 6, horrific true crime stories, the lawsuit against Gwyneth, and Lauren's travels to Guana Island. To support the show on Patreon and access our 100+ bonus episodes, including our Royal's Deep Dive, click here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Uncovering everything that has come to light in the past 48 hours about the cheating scandal that has rocked the nation. We discuss key insights from Stassi Shroeder's podcast as well as Kristen Doute's most recent episode. Finally, we chat Lisa's appearance on WWHL and other rumors swirling around the VPR dark web. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

A full deep dive on the VPR scandal that has shaken the nation to its core followed up by a break down of The People & Selena Gomez vs. Hailey Bieber. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Today we are deep diving into the many paramours of eternally enigmatic Angelina Jolie. Listen along as we break down her early relationships, including living with her boyfriend at the tender age of 14. We cover Angie's torrid affair/marriage with Billy Bob Thornton and finally, her wedded union and then divorce from the mayor of Dilf-city himself, Mr. Brad Pitt. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.