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Chanler’s back from the flight from hell—complete with zero legroom, tarmac heat, and a bralette breakdown. Lauren lands from St. Barth and immediately roasts the snack box struggle. The sisters debrief their Juicy Scoop appearance, dish on Brooklyn upgrades, and dive into the latest Karen Read courtroom twists. Then it’s The Valley's most overblown scandal (a pantry tequila swig??), Blake Lively’s legal backpedaling, Taylor Swift’s mini dress moment, and why Ubah’s fiancé might be the hottest man in Bravo history.Timestamps:[00:00] ✈️ Flight from Hell — Chanler barely survives United's final row with no AC, no food, and full claustrophobia. She strips. Literally.[10:00] 🎤 Juicy Scoop & Jet Lag — Post-interview blackout and a proud sister moment over their Heather McDonald appearance.[11:30] 🏡 Brooklyn Era Incoming — Chanler shares details on her dreamy new apartment: double square footage and heated bathroom floors.[15:00] ⚖️ Karen Read Trial Gets Messier — FBI investigations, hostile witnesses, and a town with collective amnesia. It’s getting wild.[20:00] 🍾 Pantrygate on The Valley — Did a secret tequila swig mean more? Janet stirs the pot hard and the girls call BS on the drinking drama.[25:00] 💔 Jesse & Michelle Meltdown — Jesse’s verbal abuse, Michelle’s glow-up, and why divorce might’ve saved her personality.[28:00] 🧾 Blake Lively's Legal Retreat — She’s trying to drop the emotional distress claim—but keep her options open? We see you, Blake.[33:00] 🎭 Sutton Foster Steps Out (Silently) — Hugh Jackman’s girlfriend skips the press line while Deborra-Lee Furness drops spiritual shade.[36:00] 👠 Taylor Swift at Monkey Bar — Black mini dress, diamond tennis bracelet, and... platform heels? The girls weigh in on the look.[40:00] 👙 Bethenny’s Bikini Clapback — Bethenny hits the swimwear runway and defends her “cute tush.” The sisters are divided.[45:00] 🩻 Kylie’s Boob Job Details — 450cc, moderate profile, under the muscle. Kylie finally shares her plastic surgery specs.[50:00] 💍 Ubah Gets Her Man — Ubah Hassan’s new fiancé is hot, tall, and rich. Chanler is unwell. Jill Zarin thinks it’s divine intervention.[55:00] 💔 Lauren Sanchez Grace Clause — Why does Sutton get heat but Lauren Sanchez gets worshipped? The girls make their case.Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode.For more Pop Apologists, follow along at:@popapologists on InstagramPop Apologists on YouTubeTo support the show, consider subscribing on Patreon or anywhere you listen to podcasts, where you can get bonus episodes of Pop Apologists every Monday and Friday!See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This week, Lauren and Chanler are coming to you from full LA trip prep mode. From Beyoncé's celestial performance to Mormon Wives chaos, they're breaking down the biggest stories. Expect mystery, mom drama, reality TV breakdowns, and one very bold Vogue request.• [00:00] 🎬 Packing, filming, and a camera setup saga—plus, why Chanler is unusually zen pre-LA• [07:46] 🎤 Beyoncé’s LA concert: iconic cameos, wardrobe wins, and a soft launch for Jay-Z's redemption arc?• [13:46] ⚖️ Karen Read trial deep dive: conspiracies, Facebook moms, and a possible swingers' night with a garage door guy• [24:11] 🥃 Sandy Cohen, The OC, and an unforgettable party moment involving a very lost wristwatch• [26:51] 📺 Secret Lives of Mormon Wives: friendship fallouts, glam mom interventions, and shifting alliances on-screen• [39:21] ✂️ Book deals, hair-related shade, and the moment the group chat energy shifted on camera• [41:41] 🍼 Emotions run high with a pregnancy reveal and a redemption arc that hits surprisingly hard• [47:11] 💍 Engagement rumors swirl as an NFL legend updates his yacht name and sparks internet theories• [50:11] 👑 Meghan Markle’s alleged pitch to be on every Vogue cover—and what reportedly happened next• [53:41] 🧾 Brittany Bateman’s legal drama heats up—featuring lawsuits, former friends, and court filings• [56:51] 💸 Dakota Johnson talks rent struggles, career rejections, and what “making it” actually looked likePlease note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode.OneSkin: Get 15% off OneSkin with the code Popapologists at https://www.oneskin.co/ #oneskinpod #sponsoredFor more Pop Apologists, follow along at:@popapologists on InstagramPop Apologists on YouTubeTo support the show, consider subscribing on Patreon or anywhere you listen to podcasts, where you can get a bonus episode of Pop Apologists every Monday and Friday!See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Fresh off their Ballerina Farm pilgrimage, the girls are back—and chaos reigns. Lauren and Chanler unpack the alleged threat Blake Lively’s legal team made against Taylor Swift (yes, the one about exposing 10 years of private texts 😳). Then it’s a deep dive into the Secret Lives of Mormon Wives: ketamine therapy, family betrayal, facelifts, and MomTok delusions. Plus, major developments in the Karen Read trial and Cassie Ventura’s devastating testimony in the Diddy case. You’re not ready. 👀⏱️ Chapter Timestamps:[00:00–01:00] 🐄 Back from Ballerina Farm: A recap of their visit to Utah with Courtney Grow[01:00–13:00] 💔 Taylor vs. Blake: The alleged threat, the fallout, and the godmother betrayal[13:00–16:00] 👀 Travis Kelsey unfollows Ryan, Reputation (TV) hints, and the AMAs theory[16:00–44:00] 🎬 Secret Lives of Mormon Wives S2: Taylor’s heartbreak, toxic parents, and ketamine therapy[44:00–45:30] ✈️ PSA: Why Provo dating is a danger zone[45:30–54:00] ⚖️ Karen Read trial update: Discredited expert testimony, taillight confusion, and police cover-up concerns[54:00–55:30] 😠 Sgt. Yuri Bucha's shady performance on the stand[55:30–01:02:00] 💣 Diddy trial: Cassie’s testimony, freak off allegations, and the breakdown of his decade-long abuse[01:02:00–01:03:00] 🧠 Why this matters: justice for victims and Cassie’s stand[01:03:00–01:04:00] 🎤 Outro: Upcoming content, love for the Global Elite, and farewell until FridayPlease note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode.For more Pop Apologists, follow along at:@popapologists on InstagramPop Apologists on YouTubeTo support the show, consider subscribing on Patreon or anywhere you listen to podcasts, where you can get bonus episodes of Pop Apologists every Monday and Friday!See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Lauren and Chanler’s dad, a family law attorney, returns to share legal wisdom on divorce, prenups, and child support, plus wild stories like chasing stolen goods. They reflect on their LDS upbringing, raising five daughters, and pursuing dreams at any age.⏱️ Timestamps[00:00–02:00] 🎙️ Dad’s ReturnListener love brings Dad back.[02:00–04:00] 💕 Deb’s FriendshipDad cherishes his 42-year marriage.[04:00–09:00] 👧 Raising DaughtersMom’s strictness, faith, and reading shaped success.[09:00–10:00] ⚖️ Baby NamesCourts don’t block odd names.[10:00–13:00] 💸 Income LiesFight ex’s fraud; ditch shady lawyers.[13:00–17:00] 🕵️‍♂️ Attorney ChoicePick specialists, trust gut, watch judges.[17:00–19:00] 💳 Blocked AccountsLawyer up for support orders.[19:00–21:00] 💼 Post-Divorce WorkBoth spouses must work; skills matter.[21:00–23:00] 😈 Bad BehaviorAffairs rarely affect no-fault divorce.[23:00–27:00] 👨‍👧 Five GirlsDad navigated hormones; Mom was strict.[27:00–30:00] 💔 Divorce TipsSeek faith, a friend; try saving marriage.[30:00–33:00] 📈 Impulsive DivorcesMore common, but kids suffer.[33:00–38:00] ⚖️ Law PathStarted law at 30 with three kids.[38:00–41:00] 🚀 Chase DreamsPursue goals at any age.[41:00–44:00] 📝 PrenupsFair prenups share future earnings.[44:00–48:00] 🧗‍♀️ College DaysLauren’s risky dates; sisters’ server jobs.[48:00–50:00] 🦅 Daughters’ PathsAll chose bold careers, not law.[50:00–52:00] 💡 New CareersNursing, paralegal, sales for reentry.[52:00–57:00] 🚨 Wild TalesLimo attorney; stolen goods chase.[57:00–59:00] 💰 Greed’s CostHidden assets don’t pay off.[59:00–01:01:00] 🌟 No StatusRaised valuing love, not pedigree.[01:01:00–End] 🎤 Sign-OffDad’s 25 followers get love.Follow: @popapologistsPlease note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode.For more Pop Apologists, follow along at:@popapologists on InstagramPop Apologists on YouTubeTo support the show, consider subscribing on Patreon or anywhere you listen to podcasts, where you can get bonus episodes of Pop Apologists every Monday and Friday!See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

The girls are back from wedding bliss and diving headfirst into hot topics—from a possible Taylor Swift pregnancy to Diddy’s disturbing trial details. Chanler dishes on an unexpected urgent care visit, while Lauren unpacks blind items about Blake Lively’s rumored fallout with Taylor. They debate the Karen Read trial, analyze Meghan and Harry’s Beyoncé date night, and break down why a 24-year-old pageant queen is outsmarting all of us with $9 million in real estate. Drama, speculation, and Chanel denim slander—this episode has it all.[00:00–03:00] 💊 Post-Wedding Urgent CareChanler reveals her rough post-honeymoon health scare and how “traveler’s issues” sent her to urgent care.[03:00–05:00] 🌽 Mother’s Day & Corn Cob ShameThe girls reflect on a sweet Mother’s Day… until a corn-eating incident leaves Lauren humiliated.[06:00–08:00] ⚖️ Should They Cover the Diddy Trial?They discuss whether they should pivot into full-on legal podcasters and break down audience appetite for darkness.[08:00–10:00] ☕ Taylor & Travis Reappear!Taylor and Travis were spotted with both moms on Mother's Day, sparking pregnancy or engagement rumors.[10:00–12:00] 👜 The Chanel 25 Bag DebateLauren critiques Taylor’s controversial denim Chanel bag and the brand’s identity crisis.[12:00–15:00] 🤰 Engagement or Baby on the Way?Speculation: is Taylor secretly pregnant—or just shopping hobo bags with bad posture?[15:00–18:00] 💍 DeuxMoi’s Blind Hint + Pregnancy Test PanicA DeuxMoi tease hints at an engagement, while Chanler has her own pregnancy test scare.[19:00–21:00] 🧐 Karen Read Trial Talk BeginsThe girls passionately defend Karen and wonder why the supposed “cover-up crew” seems so bad at covering up.[21:00–27:00] 🧪 Karen Theories & Cocktail Glass DebateIn-depth theorizing: how did the glass stay intact? Why did no one text about the body? They’re confused and obsessed.[29:00–32:00] 📣 Taylor Subpoenaed in Blake LawsuitTaylor’s fiery denial of involvement in “It Ends With Us” is dissected line by line.[32:00–35:00] 🚫 Girl Gang Fallout: Blake is OUTWith Blake uninvited from Gigi’s party and Travis unfollowing Ryan, it looks like Taylor is officially over it.[35:00–38:00] 🔥 Blind Item: Blake Tried to Seduce Justin?!A wild blind claims Blake made a move on Justin… and Taylor may have spilled it to Brittany Mahomes.[39:00–42:00] 🧨 Diddy Trial Breakdown (Warning: Graphic)Shocking opening day testimony is covered, from assault to bribes to male escorts and control.[43:00–45:00] 👑 Jordan Hudson’s Real Estate EmpireBill Belichick’s 24-year-old girlfriend just bought $9M in condos. The girls are stunned and impressed.[45:00–48:00] 🧠 The Psychology of Jordan HudsonIs this 5D chess? They analyze the strategy and ROI behind her sugar baby-to-landlord pipeline.[49:00–52:00] 🤠 Meghan & Harry at Cowboy CarterThey break down Meghan’s outfit, Harry’s hat, and why this photo dump hits different.[52:00–55:00] 👑 The Royal Family’s PR GamesWith no signs of reconciliation, the girls predict Harry and Meghan’s fading relevance as the next gen grows up.[55:00–57:00] 💸 Brand Longevity Doubts for Meghan & HarryDo they have enough “product” to support the lifestyle? Lauren goes full monologue.[57:00–End] 🎤 Signing Off with LoveBack from the wedding and ready to spill all the tea, the girls close with love for the listeners and a reminder to subscribe for more!Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode.For more Pop Apologists, follow along at:@popapologists on InstagramPop Apologists on YouTubeTo support the show, consider subscribing on Patreon or anywhere you listen to podcasts, where you can get bonus episodes of Pop Apologists every Monday and Friday!See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

While Chanler is off honeymooning, Lauren is joined by one of her closest friends and the chicest blonde she knows — Elizabeth. The duo dive deep into royal chaos, from Meghan Markle's HRH mess to Prince William's fury, and break down the Walton Goggins and Amy Lou Wood drama. They also tackle the shocking story of a ring-copying sister-in-law, Jordan Hudson's PR reign over Bill Belichick, and a family feud brewing in the Beckham clan. Plus, a Capri travel segment with insider tips closes the show.⏱️ Chapter Timestamps00:00 – Meet Elizabeth 👯‍♀️Chanler is on her honeymoon, so Lauren invites bestie Elizabeth to co-host. They chat Chandler’s gorgeous Prospect Park wedding and kick off a Capri-themed giveaway.07:00 – The Ring Copy Heard Round the Family 💍A listener dilemma: her future sister-in-law copies her exact engagement ring — then drags it on TikTok. The girls are scandalized.11:00 – Meghan Markle Gossip Bombshell ☕An anonymous source shares insider PR tea on Meghan’s fame strategy pre-Harry. Spoiler: it involves a deck of rich men at events.13:00 – Meghan’s HRH Title Scandal 🔥Lauren and Elizabeth dissect Meghan’s latest controversy — using her royal title on a jam gift basket featured in a public podcast.19:00 – Did Meghan Break the Rules? 👑They debate if Meghan’s HRH use was innocent or strategic. Cue a full breakdown of royal branding, commercial promotion, and royal hypocrisy.26:00 – Prince William’s Fury 💢New reports claim William is planning to formally strip Harry and Meghan’s HRH titles when he becomes king. The girls weigh in on whether it’s deserved.30:00 – Security Drama & Harry’s Court Loss 🔐Prince Harry loses a UK court appeal over taxpayer-funded protection. Lauren and Elizabeth discuss whether the royal family is putting him in danger.37:00 – Walton Goggins & Amy Lou Wood 💔The two get into the juicy behind-the-scenes fallout between White Lotus stars Walton and Amy. From Instagram clues to awkward interviews, they speculate on what went down.42:00 – Jordan Hudson’s PR Reign Over Belichick 🧠💅Is Bill Belichick’s 24-year-old girlfriend tanking his career? The answer is possibly yes — and the girls go in hard on the weird dynamic.47:00 – The Beckhams Are Feuding 🥊David Beckham turns 50 — and Brooklyn + Nicola skip the bash. What’s going on between the Beckhams and Nicola Peltz? And who is Romeo’s new (and recycled?) girlfriend?53:00 – ✨ Bonus Segment: Amalfi Coast & Capri Travel GuideLauren is joined by photographer and Capri expert Natalie Obradovich for luxury recs, travel mistakes to avoid, where to stay, shop, and beach club like a local.We’re giving away a designer raffia bag of your choice (up to $3,000 in value!) to one lucky listener—just in time for summer getaways and poolside flexes.To enter:👉 Follow @popapologists (https://instagram.com/popapologists), @natalie (https://instagram.com/natalie), and @elizabeth.gaucher (https://instagram.com/elizabeth.gaucher) on InstagramBonus chance to win:⭐ Leave a 5 star review for Pop Apologists on Apple Podcasts🎉 GIVEAWAY ALERT: Win Your Dream Summer Bag!Check out our amazing sponsors:BetterHelp: Pop Apologists is sponsored by BetterHelp. We’re all better with help. Visit BetterHelp.com/POPAPOLOGISTS (http://betterhelp.com/POPAPOLOGISTS) to get 10% off your first month.Cozy Earth: To celebrate Moms everywhere, visit CozyEarth.com (http://cozyearth.com/) and use code POP for 40% off your entire order. Because she deserves the best!Hero Bread: Hero Bread is offering 10% off your order. Go to hero.co (http://hero.co/) and use code POP at checkout.Nutrafol: Find out why Nutrafol is the best-selling hair growth supplement brand at Nutrafol.com (http://nutrafol.com/) promo code POP.Quince: Treat your closet to a little summer glow-up with Quince. Go to http://quince.com/apologist for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns. Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode.For more Pop Apologists, follow along at:@popapologists on InstagramSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Lauren and Chan dive into everything we know so far from Karen Read’s retrial — prosecution and defense strategy, courtroom drama, and key witness moments. It’s all on the table.00:00 – 08:00 Wedding Week Catch-Up08:01 – 10:59 Case Background & Legal Overview11:00 – 12:59 Media Impact & Public Perception13:00 – 15:59 Jury Insights & Legal Strategy16:00 – 18:59 Key Players & Investigation Focus19:00 – 22:59 Scene Details & Timeline Questions23:00 – 24:59 Financial Fallout & Defense Structure25:00 – 27:59 New Evidence Introduced28:00 – 32:59 Behavior, Phones & Property Changes33:00 – 34:59 Search History Controversy35:00 – 38:59 Opening Statements & Legal Framing39:00 – 41:59 Witness Testimony & Trial Atmosphere42:00 – 47:00 Expert Evidence & Courtroom Debates47:01 – 48:59 Trial Momentum & What's Ahead49:00 – 51:59 Pop Culture Pulse Check (Travis Kelce, Meghan Markle)52:00 – 55:00 Podcast Reactions & CommentaryCheck out our amazing sponsors:MasterClass: Our listeners always get great discounts on MasterClass, of at least 15% off any annual membership at masterclass.com/popapologists . Progressive: Visit Progressive.com to see if you could save on car insurance.Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode.For more Pop Apologists, follow along at:@popapologists on InstagramPop Apologists on YouTubeTo support the show, consider subscribing on Patreon or anywhere you listen to podcasts, where you can get bonus episodes of Pop Apologists every Monday and Friday!See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

In light of Karen Read’s retrial, Lauren and Chandler revisit her first trial from 2024. They walk through the full timeline, key evidence, legal strategies, and the emerging controversies surrounding law enforcement’s role in the investigation.00:00 – 03:00 Intro, Format & Re-Release Context03:01 – 05:00 Who Were John O’Keefe and Karen Read?05:01 – 07:00 The Night in Question07:01 – 10:00 Early Morning Discovery & Initial Reactions10:01 – 13:00 Phone Records, Taillights & 911 Call13:01 – 16:00 Charges, Legal Teams, & Investigation Overview16:01 – 20:00 Evidence at the Scene20:01 – 24:00 Conflicting Theories & Relationship Dynamics24:01 – 28:00 Defense Strategy & Possible Coverup Claims28:01 – 33:00 Missing Footage, Evidence Chain & Key Players33:01 – 37:00 Surveillance Gaps & Timeline Breakdown37:01 – 42:00 Technology Data, Text Patterns & Phones42:01 – 47:00 Witness Testimony Challenges & Investigative Concerns47:01 – 52:00 Prosecutorial Position & Rebuttals52:01 – 57:00 Federal Oversight & External Reports57:01 – 01:03:00 Final Review of Conflicting Evidence01:03:01 – End What Comes Next & Closing ThoughtsCheck out our amazing sponsors:Clean Simple Eats: Shop Clean Simple Eats protein powder and use code POPAPOLOGISTS for 10% off!Earlybird: Click here to try EarlyBird CBD/THC gummies and use code POP20 for 20% off. Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode.For more Pop Apologists, follow along at:@popapologists on InstagramPop Apologists on YouTubeTo support the show, consider subscribing on Patreon or anywhere you listen to podcasts, where you can get bonus episodes of Pop Apologists every Monday and Friday!See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Marriage is magical… but also occasionally maddening. In this episode, we welcome licensed marriage and family therapist Aly Bullock, to spill her wisdom on making love last long after the honeymoon.💥 [00:02:10] We kick it off with the most-asked question about long-term relationships—and a fresh perspective you probably haven’t heard before.💃 [00:04:50] “Non-toxic drama”? Yes, it’s a thing—and you might just be obsessed with the concept.👀 [00:10:45] How something as simple as eye contact might be the most underrated intimacy move.📱 [00:12:00] The couples app that’s transforming everyday connection—one tiny prompt at a time.🥴 [00:17:15] Is it possible to be happy, healthy, and passionate in the long run? Let’s just say this part might challenge your assumptions.💔 [00:24:15] What to do when you’re years in and still unsure if your partner is “the one.”😬 [00:27:15] The art of addressing a partner’s weight gain—with honesty and compassion.💅 [00:33:00] What to say when your partner’s new look has you questioning everything—including their haircut choices.💵 [00:36:10] Money dynamics in relationships: how to handle shifts in income and power without blowing things up.👶 [00:41:50] Kids change everything—here’s how to stay close when chaos enters the chat.🔐 [00:48:50] Trust issues and betrayal: what healing really looks like, and how to know when it’s time to walk away.👪 [00:55:10] In-law boundaries, decoded. (Yes, you can set them without sparking family feuds.)Find Aly on social media at the handles @pairedapp and @relationshipswithaly where she shares relatable, actionable couples content and check out the show notes for 25% off a year membership to Paired premium to get her expert advice tailored specifically to you and your partner. http://www.paired.com/alypodcastCheck out our amazing sponsors:Clean Simple Eats: Shop Clean Simple Eats protein powder and use code POPAPOLOGISTS for 10% off!Earlybird: Click here to try EarlyBird CBD/THC gummies and use code POP20 for 20% off. Cozy Earth: Prioritize your sleep! Visit CozyEarth.com/POP and use our exclusive code POP for 40% off best-selling sheets, towels, pajamas, and more. And if you get a post-purchase survey, let them know you heard about Cozy Earth right here. Sleep Better with Cozy Earth.Progressive: Visit Progressive.com to see if you could save on car insurance.Quince: Thoughtful. Timeless. Totally her. Shop Mother’s Day at Quince. Go to quince.com/apologist for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns. Thrive Market: Ready to make the switch? Head to ThriveMarket.com/pop and get 30% off your first order, plus a FREE $60 gift!Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode.For more Pop Apologists, follow along at:@popapologists on InstagramPop Apologists on YouTubeTo support the show, consider subscribing on Patreon or anywhere you listen to podcasts, where you can get bonus episodes of Pop Apologists every Monday and Friday!See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

[00:00–02:00] 🚀 Was this really a “medium news week”? The girls dive into the headline that sent them — literally — into orbit.[02:00–06:00] 🌌 Katy Perry returns from space and says she’s “never felt more connected to love.” The commentary that follows? Unhinged perfection.[13:00–17:00] 💇‍♀️ Dyson Airwrap: myth or miracle? Lauren enters her hair reform era, and Chanler has thoughts.[24:00–29:00] 👠 Shoe size shame and celebrity foot gossip (yes, this is a real segment, and yes, it’s glorious).[31:00–34:00] 💸 The $30 Stanley Cup that almost ended a wedding before it started.[35:00–39:00] 🎭 A viral SNL sketch, bad teeth jokes, and a rumored celeb breakup — things get dicey.[40:00–47:00] ⚖️ An unexpected twist in the Lively vs. Baldoni case, including a new voice on Team Justin.[47:00–52:00] 👯‍♀️ The Kyle and Dorit friendship breakdown — are we watching the end in real time?[52:00–57:00] 🎶 Morgan Wade, Wilder Days, and Real Housewives chemistry that’s way too on-the-nose.[57:00–End (~01:01:00)] 🥂 A toast to long-lasting love — and Jennifer Tilley just living her fabulous life.Check out our amazing sponsors:Clean Simple Eats: Shop Clean Simple Eats protein powder and use code POPAPOLOGISTS for 10% off!Earlybird: Click here to try EarlyBird CBD/THC gummies and use code POP20 for 20% off. Quince: For your next trip, treat yourself to the luxe upgrades you deserve from Quince. Go to quince.com/apologist for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns. Progressive: Visit Progressive.com to see if you could save on car insurance.Hero Bread: Hero Bread is offering 10% off your order. Go to hero.co and use code POP at checkout.Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode.For more Pop Apologists, follow along at:@popapologists on InstagramPop Apologists on YouTubeTo support the show, consider subscribing on Patreon or anywhere you listen to podcasts, where you can get bonus episodes of Pop Apologists every Monday and Friday!See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Lauren and Chan chat about the countdown to Chan’s wedding and take a stroll down memory lane (0:47). They discuss the backlash over Blake Lively’s time at a donut shop (8:51), the White Lotus finale (15:03), Lauren’s suspicions about Taylor and Travis (30:18), Sydney Sweeney’s breakup + potential new romance (32:27), Meghan Markle’s new podcast “Confessions of a Female Founder” (37:42), Erin and Abe Lichy’s new podcast “Come Together” (43:59), and finally, their top picks for the Sephora sale (50:57). Check out our amazing sponsors:Clean Simple Eats: Shop Clean Simple Eats protein powder and use code POPAPOLOGISTS for 10% off!Earlybird: Click here to try EarlyBird CBD/THC gummies and use code POP20 for 20% off. Cozy Earth: Prioritize your sleep! Visit CozyEarth.com/POP and use our exclusive code POP for 40% off best-selling sheets, towels, pajamas, and more. And if you get a post-purchase survey, let them know you heard about Cozy Earth right here. Sleep better with Cozy Earth.Progressive: Visit Progressive.com to see if you could save on car insurance.Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode.For more Pop Apologists, follow along at:@popapologists on InstagramPop Apologists on YouTubeTo support the show, consider subscribing on Patreon or anywhere you listen to podcasts, where you can get a bonus episode of Pop Apologists every Friday!See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Lauren and Chan are joined by Olivia Snow of Mother’s Daughter Design (@mothersdaughterdesign on Instagram) to chat about all things interior design. They dive into discussing their favorite celebrity homes, as well as a celebrity home that has them puzzled: Emma Chamberlain’s LA house (7:52), Gigi Hadid’s New York apartment (11:57) Emma Roberts’ LA house (15:25), Kendall Jenner’s LA house (21:14), and Gwyneth Paltrow’s Montecito house (26:41).They also get to listener questions:The best place areas to save money in a house that needs a lot of work? (40:07)What styles are coming next? (43:47)A designer’s thought’s on wallpaper?( 45:19)Where to spend and where to save with furniture? (46:46)What to look for in a rug? (48:17)How do I not decorate like everyone on Instagram? (49:46)What are the best friendly decorating tips? (52:45)How do I find my own style? (54:52)What lighting shade gives the coziest light in a home? (56:27)What are inexpensive ways to update a bedroom or kitchen? (58:35)How to handle your partner having very different interior style opinoins? (1:00:53)What is trending now that people will regret in five years? (1:03:00)What are online retailers that are really good quality for the price? (1:04:15)When should you do use a designer for specific items?(1:07:20)What are Olivia’s favorite paint colors to use? (1:10:33)How to know when to use a decorator? (1:14:02)Visit the Pop Apologists Substack for all the details on Lauren's Brooklyn homeCheck out our amazing sponsors:Clean Simple Eats: Shop Clean Simple Eats protein powder and use code POPAPOLOGISTS for 10% off!Earlybird: Click here to try EarlyBird CBD/THC gummies and use code POP20 for 20% off. BetterHelp: This episode is sponsored by BetterHelp. Build your support system with Betterhelp. Visit betterhelp.com/popapologists to get 10% off your first month. Quince: Give yourself the luxury you deserve with Quince! Go to quince.com/apologist for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns. Progressive: Use the Name Your Price ® tool from Progressive you can be a better budgeter and potentially lower your insurance bill too! See if you can save some money at Progressive.com. Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode.For more Pop Apologists, follow along at:@popapologists on Instagram@popapologists on TikTokPop Apologists on YouTubeTo support the show, consider subscribing on Patreon or anywhere you listen to podcasts, where you can get a bonus episode of Pop Apologists every Friday!See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Lauren and Chan chat about Kim and Kanye’s latest battle (6:27), Meghan Markle’s new podcast (14:17) as well as her St. Patrick’s Day snafu (19:45), Taylor Swift’s latest easter eggs (26:34), and Donna Kelce’s surprising Instagram post (28:40). Lauren and Chan are then joined by the one and only Arielle Lorre to share the intense amount of work that goes into her career and two shocking personal stories that you have to hear to believe. Arielle mentions it all: Behind the scenes of building an influencer and podcast brand (35:37), Arielle’s favorite skincare products (47:04), Arielle’s catastrophic jet lag (48:13), and finally, Arielle’s botox nightmare (54:56)Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode.Clean Simple Eats: Shop Clean Simple Eats protein powder and use code POPAPOLOGISTS for 10% off!Earlybird: Click here to try EarlyBird CBD/THC gummies and use code POP20 for 20% off. Cozy Earth: Luxury Shouldn’t Be Out of Reach. Visit CozyEarth.com/POP and use our exclusive code POP for 40% off best-selling sheets, towels, pajamas, and more. And if you get a post-purchase survey, let them know you heard about Cozy Earth right here. Sanctuary Awaits at Cozy Earth.Quince: Give yourself the luxury you deserve with Quince! Go to quince.com/apologist for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns. Progressive: See if you’re eligible to save money when you bundle your home and auto policies at Progressive.com. SKIMS: The Fits Everybody collection is available in sizes XXS to 4X. You can shop now at SKIMS.com and SKIMS New York Flagship on Fifth Ave. After you place your order, be sure to let them know we sent you! Select “podcast” in the survey and be sure to select Pop Apologists in the dropdown menu that follows. For more Pop Apologists, follow along at:@popapologists on Instagram@popapologists on TikTokPop Apologists on YouTubeTo support the show, consider subscribing on Patreon or anywhere you listen to podcasts, where you can get a bonus episode of Pop Apologists every Friday!See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Lauren and Chan are chatting all about the latest celebrity and reality tv happenings. They dive into Blake Lively’s Another Simple Favor premiere at SXSW (4:24), Nick Viall’s reaction to Justin Baldoni on Juicy Scoop (8:33), the newest allegations about Justin Baldoni (11:06), Blake and Ryan wanting to protect their texts (16:59), Thomas Markle’s statements about With Love, Meghan (21:45), Kylie Jenner and Timothée Chalamet’s recent tennis outing (29:27), updates on Jax Taylor and Brittany’s side about what prompted him to get help (31:13), Tamra Judge quitting RHOC (35:06), and finally, their take on The Baldwins (41:26). Check out our amazing sponsors: Clean Simple Eats: Shop Clean Simple Eats protein powder and use code POPAPOLOGISTS for 10% off! Earlybird: Click here to try EarlyBird CBD/THC gummies and use code POP20 for 20% off. Progressive: See if you’re eligible to save money when you bundle your home and auto policies at Progressive.com. Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode. For more Pop Apologists, follow along at: @popapologists on Instagram @popapologists on TikTok Pop Apologists on YouTube To support the show, consider subscribing on Patreon or anywhere you listen to podcasts, where you can get a bonus episode of Pop Apologists every Friday!See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Lauren and Chan are joined by Taylor Lorenz to discuss all things related to internet culture. They dive into the following: The Socialite Rank (3:32), the social media ecosystem (11:33), parasocial relationships (14:35), aspirational content (20:18), mommy bloggers (28:33), the birth of influencer marketing (33:04), viral content shaping societal values (36:42), AI creators & digital clones (40:31), going from an influencer to being in the public eye with Meghan Markle (45:16), and finally, image curation and PR strategy with Gwyneth Paltrow (51:00). Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode. Clean Simple Eats: Shop Clean Simple Eats protein powder and use code POPAPOLOGISTS for 10% off! Earlybird: Click here to try Earlybird CBD/THC gummies and use code POP20 for 20% off. BetterHelp: This episode is sponsored by BetterHelp. Build your support system with Betterhelp. Visit betterhelp.com/popapologists to get 10% off your first month. Cozy Earth: Visit CozyEarth.com/POP and use our exclusive code POP for 40% off best-selling sheets, towels, pajamas, and more. Quince: Give yourself the luxury you deserve with Quince! Go to quince.com/apologist for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns. Progressive: See if you can save some money at Progressive.com. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Lauren and Chan are joined by Kate Kennedy from the Be There in Five podcast to chat about all the things living rent-free in their minds. They discuss Jenny Slate’s It Ends With Us HR complaint and why Justin Baldoni’s communication style may be the issue (2:32). They dive into Ballerina Farm and which publication Lauren thinks should be featuring Hannah (10:57). They take a moment on Nara Smith’s account and content strategy (13:40). They loop back around to Blake and Justin to discuss the recent Hollywood Reporter article and SNL appearance (19:15). They discuss their take on Blake and Taylor’s friendship in light of the lawsuits (33:33). They give their take on Meghan Markle’s upcoming ventures As Ever and With Love, Meghan (38:00). Finally, they give their complete thoughts on Pookie, and whether they buy what she and Jett are selling (52:44). Check out our amazing sponsors: Clean Simple Eats: Shop Clean Simple Eats protein powder and use code POPAPOLOGISTS for 10% off! Earlybird: Click here to try EarlyBird CBD/THC gummies and use code POP20 for 20% off. Progressive: Visit Progressive.com to see if you could save on car insurance. To support the show, consider subscribing on Patreon or anywhere you listen to podcasts, where you can get a bonus episode of Pop Apologists every Friday! Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Lauren and Chan are so excited to bring you the first Pop Apologists Profile on the legend and icon Demi Moore. She’s had the kind of career that is truly one in a million, but the true story behind her life is a mix of triumph, resilience, and heartbreak. From childhood struggles to public relationships that made headlines, Demi’s journey has been anything but ordinary. Hear all about Demi’s tumultuous childhood (3:22), Demi’s shocking earliest relationships (18:55), her big break into acting (22:22), Demi meeting a hot new actor named Bruce Willis, plus all about their 13 year marriage (31:46), Demi’s iconic moments that shaped our culture (40:42), the ending of Bruce and Demi’s marriage (51:02), her relationship with Ashton Kutcher and the difficulties that followed (53:20), and finally, Demi’s stunning second act. (1:11:36) Check out our amazing sponsors: Clean Simple Eats: Shop Clean Simple Eats protein powder and use code POPAPOLOGISTS for 10% off! Earlybird: Click here to try EarlyBird CBD/THC gummies and use code POP20 for 20% off. SKIMS: The Fits Everybody collection is available in sizes XXS to 4X. You can shop now at SKIMS.com and SKIMS New York Flagship on Fifth Ave. After you place your order, be sure to let them know we sent you! Select “podcast” in the survey and be sure to select Pop Apologists in the dropdown menu that follows. To support the show, consider subscribing on Patreon or anywhere you listen to podcasts, where you can get a bonus episode of Pop Apologists every Friday! Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Lauren and Chan are back with part 6 of the Blake Lively vs. Justin Baldoni battle. They are chatting the final portion of the timeline as well as the newest developments on the case: Ryan and Blake trying to sabotage Justin’s career with WME (2:00), the statement of contrition that Ryan and Blake wanted Justin and Wayfarer to release (4:52), Blake’s collusion with the New York Times (13:39), Blake’s request for a gag order against Justin’s legal team as well as her unique request to the court (15:50), a second lawsuit being dropped on Blake (17:13), an update on Taylor’s feelings about her friendship with Blake and her involvement with the movie (18:31), Blake and Ryan’s team allegedly trying to silence a TikTok creator (24:24), Lauren’s husband gives his fascinating perspective on what actually happened (31:04), Ryan’s fake paparazzi moment (34:26), thoughts on the only way Blake can get out of this mess (38:04), and the real reason Justin wants to go ahead with the lawsuit (43:56) Check out our amazing sponsors: Clean Simple Eats: Shop Clean Simple Eats protein powder and use code POPAPOLOGISTS for 10% off! Earlybird: Click here to try EarlyBird CBD/THC gummies and use code POP20 for 20% off. Netflix: Watch Kinda Pregnant, now playing only on Netflix. BetterHelp: This episode is sponsored by BetterHelp. Visit BetterHelp.com/popapologists to get 10% off your first month. Thrive Market: Ready for a junk-free start to 2025? Head to ThriveMarket.com/pop and get 30% off your first order, plus a FREE $60 gift! To support the show, consider subscribing on Patreon or anywhere you listen to podcasts, where you can get a bonus episode of Pop Apologists every Friday! Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Lauren and Chan are joined by DeuxMoi to dive into part 4 of Blake Lively vs. Justin Baldoni. During their chat, they mention it all: Where Blake and Justin’s working relationship went wrong (4:43) , The popular theory of Ryan Reynolds being the real villain (7:38), Where Deux feels everything went wrong between Justin and Blake (14:15), Justin Baldoni’s 7 minute voice memo to Blake (18:46), Were Blake and Colleen scheming to get the movie rights back (24:27), Blake’s list of demands (29:46), Why aren’t the other actors speaking out? (32:22), What people say about Justin Baldoni, Blake Lively, and Ryan Reynolds (35:32), How Taylor feels about being brought into the narrative (43:17), Ryan Reynolds’ messages to Justin Baldoni (48:58), Lauren’s Roman Empire: the truth about Taylor Swift and Joe Alwyn (57:55)Check out our amazing sponsors: Clean Simple Eats: Shop Clean Simple Eats protein powder and use code POPAPOLOGISTS for 10% off! Earlybird: Click here to try EarlyBird CBD/THC gummies and use code POP20 for 20% off. Netflix: Watch Kinda Pregnant, only on Netflix February 5th. BetterHelp: This episode is sponsored by BetterHelp. Visit BetterHelp.com/popapologists to get 10% off your first month. Cozy Earth: A better year starts with better sleep—wrap yourself in Cozy Earth. Visit cozyearth.com and use our exclusive 40% off code POP . For more Pop Apologists, follow along at: @popapologists on Instagram @popapologists on TikTok Pop ApologistsSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Lauren and Chan are joined by Kelli and Troy from Beyond the Blinds to chat about all things Diddy + more. -Diddy’s troubling childhood (2:06) - Diddy’s arrest with J.Lo being tip of the iceberg with his crimes (16:34) -How they think Diddy’s freak off’s actually happened (20:37) -Kim Porter and Cassie’s relationships with Diddy (26:53) -Celebrities who were complicit with Diddy’s crimes + the tragedy of child stars (34:54) -Will there ever be a reckoning where the true monsters fall? (42:19) -The relationship between Diddy and Jay-Z (49:27) -Thoughts on the upcoming Diddy trial (53:10) Check out our amazing sponsors: Clean Simple Eats: Shop Clean Simple Eats protein powder and use code POPAPOLOGISTS for 10% off! Earlybird: Click here to try EarlyBird CBD/THC gummies and use code POP20 for 20% off. Netflix: Watch Kinda Pregnant, only on Netflix February 5th. SKIMS: The Fits Everybody collection is available in sizes XXS to 4X. You can shop now at SKIMS.com and SKIMS New York Flagship on Fifth Ave. After you place your order, be sure to let them know we sent you! Select “podcast” in the survey and be sure to select Pop Apologists in the dropdown menu that follows. And if you are looking for the perfect gift for your Valentine or for yourself- SKIMS just launched their best Valentine’s Shop ever! Available in sizes for women, men, and kids. For more Pop Apologists, follow along at:@popapologists on InstagramSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Check out our amazing sponsors: Clean Simple Eats: Shop Clean Simple Eats protein powder and use code POPAPOLOGISTS for 10% off! Earlybird: Click here to try EarlyBird CBD/THC gummies and use code POP20 for 20% off. Quince: Upgrade your closet this year without the upgraded price tag! Go to quince.com/apologist for 365-day returns PLUS free shipping on your order! Progressive: Want to bundle your home and auto policies? See if you can save some money at Progressive.com Cozy Earth: A better year starts with better sleep—wrap yourself in Cozy Earth. Visit cozyearth.com and use our exclusive 40% off code POP . To support the show, consider subscribing on Patreon or on Apple Podcasts, where you can get a bonus episode of Pop Apologists every Friday! Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Lauren and Chan are joined by Kate Casey to discuss some of the biggest conspiracies to hit Hollywood, the British royals, and more. The gals dive into the rumors that Kris Jenner orchestrated the sale of Kim’s sex tape (1:52) and the difference in the sale of Pamela Anderson and Tommy Lee’s sex tape (6:12). They chat about the rumours surrounding January Jones and director Matthew Vaughn (8:30). They revisit the rumours about Justin Bieber and Kourtney Kardashian (14:26). Lauren, Chan, and Kate touch on the mysterious death of Tafari Campbell, the Obama family’s chef (19:23). The gals chat about the Chappaquiddick incident involving Ted Kennedy (22:23). They take a look at the death of JonBenét Ramsey and some of the theories regarding her death (24:00). Lauren, Chan, and Kate revisit some of the mysteries surrounding the death of Princess Diana (36:03). The gals give their take on the reality of William and Kate’s marriage (46:39). They talk about celebrity clones and body doubles (49:32) and thoughts on Meghan and Harry’s holiday card (53:47). The gals give a quick moment for a reality tv round up (57:32). Finally, they chat about the conspiracy that Teresa Graves is actually Whitney Houston’s mother (1:00:27). Shop Clean Simple Eats protein powder and use code POPAPOLOGISTS for 10% off! Click here to try EarlyBird CBD/THC gummies and use code POP20 for 20% off. This episode is sponsored by BetterHelp: Visit BetterHelp.com/popapologists to get 10% off your first month. Visit progressive.com to see if you could save on car insurance. Head to ThriveMarket.com/pop and get 30% off your first order, plus a FREE $60 gift! Visit See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Lauren and Chan are sharing a deep dive on everything we know about the battle between Blake Lively vs. Justin Baldoni so far. The gals bring everyone up to speed on the drama that surrounded It Ends With Us when the movie was released in August 2024 and the tide of public opinion turning on Blake Lively (1:48). They discuss Blake’s bombshell legal complaint against Justin that dropped just before Christmas 2024, including the specifics of each complaint (6:19). Lauren and Chan dive into the It Ends With Us premier, where Justin and the Wayfarer Studios team were segregated from the rest of the cast (28:42). The gals get into Justin’s hiring of a PR crisis team following the IEWU premier, the massive public backlash against Blake (30:26), and the effects of the smear campaign (33:19). They dive into Justin’s lawsuit against the New York Times(41:23), as well as the allegations that involve Blake (48:57) Finally, Lauren and Chan discuss the points in both Justin and Blake's filings where two things can be true (53:31). Shop Clean Simple Eats protein powder and use code POPAPOLOGISTS for 10% off! Click here to try EarlyBird CBD/THC gummies and use code POP20 for 20% off. This episode is sponsored by BetterHelp: Visit BetterHelp.com/popapologists to get 10% off your first month. Visit progressive.com to see if you could save on car insurance. To support the show, consider subscribing on Patreon or on Apple Podcasts, where you can get a bonus episode of Pop Apologists every Friday! Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Lauren and Chan are so excited to be chatting with Heather Dubrow from Real Housewives of Orange County! They dive into the double standards of plastic surgery, and what constitutes a sexy upgrade vs. a taboo procedure (1:26). Heather shares her wisdom on becoming the best version of yourself (3:46), getting through tough parenting stages (8:55), and raising children who are grateful instead of entitled (13:19). Heather talks about her marriage and her advice on nurturing a long-term relationship(20:23). She gives the exclusive scoop on her and Terry’s living situation and what is next for their home (30:04). Heather mentions it all, down to opening up about the tweaks and procedures she has had done and which practitioners she would recommend (36:07). Heather dishes on her diet and exercise regiment, including what has been the biggest game changer in her life (40:30). Finally, Heather answers some rapid-fire questions, including her thoughts on Tamra’s RHOC antics, a behind the scenes peek at Housewives production, and what she is working on next (44:37). Shop Clean Simple Eats protein powder a nd use code POPAPOLOGISTS for 10% off! Click here to try EarlyBird CBD/THC gummies and use code POP20 for 20% off. To support the show, consider subscribing on Patreon or on Apple Podcasts, where yo u can get a bonus episode of Pop Apologists every Friday! Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This week we are deep diving into the lives of Carolyn Bessette Kennedy and JFK, Jr. and their iconic American romance. Who exactly was Carolyn before she waltzed into JFK Jr.'s glittering orbit? What exactly made the American prince forego his supermodel habit in favor of a normal girl from White Plains, New York? How did Jackie O. feel about her son as he rose to prominence as the American sex symbol of his time? Why was Carolyn two hours late to her own wedding? And what happened on the fateful night when they met their untimely demise? We answer these questions and much, much more. Buckle in, bb's! Shop Clean Simple Eats protein powder a nd use code POPAPOLOGISTS for 10% off! To support the show, consider subscribing on Patreon or on Apple Podcasts, where you can get a bonus episode of Pop Apologists every Friday! Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Lauren and Chan are joined by Troy and Kelli from Beyond the Blinds to chat about the top celebrity moments of 2024, jaw-dropping blind items, and celebrity predictions for 2025. They discuss the problematic cast of That 70’s Show (5:06), as well as a must-read celebrity memoir. They dive into the year’s top celebrity breakups (12:22). Kelli reveals an interesting theory on Taylor Swift’s connection to the Kansas City Chiefs (19:01). They pull back the curtain on how PR plays out in celebrity relationships, including their tinfoil hat theory on Taylor Swift’s relationships (23:13). They shine a light on celebrity pap walks (34:17). They break down which celebrities are struggling to adapt to the ever-changing definition of celebrity (37:15). Finally, they give their take on the VPR re-boot and the current season of RHONY (49:21). Listeners can find Troy and Kelli from Beyond the Blinds anywhere you listen to podcasts or at Patreon.com/BeyondTheBlinds Shop Clean Simple Eats protein powder a nd use code POPAPOLOGISTS for 10% off! Head to MasterClass, where you can receive up to 50% off at MasterClass.com/POPAPOLOGISTS To support the show, consider subscribing on Patreon or on Apple Podcasts, where you can get a bonus episode of Pop Apologists every Friday! Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Lauren and Chan share updates and happenings that are both very New York in nature. The gals share their sadness over the end of the Eras Tour and what they think is coming next for Taylor. (10:37) They dive into the story that has gripped the nation, the murder of United Healthcare CEO Brian Thompson and the arrest of Luigi Mangione, including the lesser-known manifesto that gives additional insight to his alleged motive. (15:52) Finally, they discuss recent news of Jay-Z being named in the Diddy lawsuit, Jay-Z’s response, and thoughts on associating with the morally bankrupt. (40:49) Shop Clean Simple Eats protein powder and use code POPAPOLOGISTS for 10% off! To support the show, consider subscribing on Patreon or on Apple Podcasts, where you can get a bonus episode of Pop Apologists every Friday! Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Lauren and Chan are joined by their dad, family law attorney John Bledsoe, where they chat about some of Hollywood’s most contentious and unique divorces: The discuss Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie’s divorce and whether parental alienation took place (3:12), Gossip Girl’s Kelly Rutherford and Daniel Giersch’s trans-continental divorce and alleged child abduction (26:45), and Kevin Costner and Christine Baumgartner’s contentious divorce, where the argument of “luxury is in their DNA” didn’t fall on sympathetic ears (40:23). Plus, John answers some rapid-fire Q&A about pre-nups, filing for divorce, children of divorce, and the secret to staying married. Shop Clean Simple Eats protein powder a nd use code POPAPOLOGISTS for 10% off! Head to MasterClass, where you can receive 50% off at MasterClass.com/POPAPOLOGISTS To support the show, consider subscribing on Patreon or on Apple Podcasts, where yo u can get a bonus episode of Pop Apologists every Friday! Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Welcome to The Trial of David Foster, where Lauren and Chan examine this Canadian songwriter & producer's marriages and misdeeds. Listen as the gals dive into David's five marriages to discuss his relationship patterns and the toll it has taken on those in his orbit. Join Lauren and Chan as the judge, jury, and executioner regarding this man's bad behavior, complete with the gals' take on why David hated being on Real Housewives of Beverly Hills + why they think he and Yolanda Hadid (wife #4) split. Finally, listen in as Lauren and Chan discuss the interview where Katherine McPhee (wife #5) tells the tale of her and David's love. Buckle in, because this is a trial you won't want to miss. Shop Clean Simple Eats protein powder a nd use code POPAPOLOGISTS for 10% off! Click here to try Ea rlyBird CBD/THC gummies and use code POP20 for 20% off. To support the show, consider subscribing on Patreon or on Apple Podcasts, where yo u can get a bonus episode of Pop Apologists every Friday! Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Lauren and Chan are joined by Sammi Cohen, a rising star in the world of financial and business content creation who bridges the gap between Wall Street and pop culture. She is known for her deep dives where she breaks down and demystifies complex financial concepts and uncovers what's really happening with today's biggest brands. Together they discuss: What happened to Outdoor Voices (4:16) The fall of the female founded “girl boss” brands (19:49) Venture Capitalist roles in building a brand (26:58) The rise and struggles of Glossier (32:11) Kourtney Kardashian’s problematic brand, Lemme (41:18) The death and resuscitation of mall brands (50:02) Find Sammi Cohen on Instagram and TikTok at @sammicohentalks, as well as her weekly newsletter “Social Currency”. Shop Clean Simple Eats protein powder a nd use code POPAPOLOGISTS for 10% off! Click here to try EarlyBird CBD/THC gummies and use code POP20 for 20% off. To support the show, consider subscribing on Patreon or on Apple Podcasts, where yo u can get a bonus episode of Pop Apologists every Friday! Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Lauren, Chan, and returning guest Joe Peacock are diving in to chat about the biggest misconceptions and unrealistic expectations that romantic comedies have given them, from jobs and apartments to the way a partner should be expressing their love. Lauren, Chan, and Joe take a look at some of the rom coms that have lied to them the most: You’ve Got Mail, Runaway Bride, Pretty Woman, How to Lose a Guy in 10 Days, and more. They also chat about the rom com male archetypes and why rom com writers have set women and men up for disappointment. Finally, Chan shares where she was looking for her perfect meet-cute to happen, Lauren recalls a time where she tried to create a rom com moment in her life, and Joe shares his dream of dating someone adjacent to a certain celebrity. Shop Clean Simple Eats protein powder a nd use code POPAPOLOGISTS for 10% off! Click here to try EarlyBird CBD/THC gummies and use code POP20 for 20% off. To support the show, consider subscribing on Patreon, where you can get a bonus epi sode of Pop Apologists every Friday! Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Lauren and Chan are joined by holistic dating coach Amy Nobile Messing, a holistic dating coach and best selling co author of four books, all designed to empower and inspire women at various stages of their lives. Love Amy is her coaching business that marries the technology of modern dating with a holistic view of human to human energy and connection. Together, the gals are discussing some of the ways women are missing the opportunities to connect with their future partners and what easy adjustments women can make to their dating profiles and personal mindsets to have both their profile as well as energy be ready for emotional connection and lasting love. They also answer listener questions: Why won’t men commit? Can long distance relationships actually work? Does Amy’s advice change based on a woman’s age? How to keep the spark alive after 10 years together? How to date as a single mom? How long should we wait to hear “I love you” from a partner? Find Amy at @love.amy.nyc on Instagram where you can send her a DM and receive a list of questions to ask on dates. You can also visit her website at loveamy.co Shop Clean Simple Eats protein powder and use code POPAPOLOGISTS for 10% off! Click here to try Earlybird CBD/THC gummies and use code POPAPOLOGISTS20 for 20% off. To support the show, consider subscribing on Patreon, where you can get a bonus epi sode of Pop Apologists every Friday! Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Lauren and Chan dive into Kody Brown’s most recent sins, which shows him looking everywhere except in the mirror. The gals touch on the latest rumors with Diddy’s freak-offs and the female A-lister who is being discussed. They weigh in on a recent “Ask Jane” advice submission and Jane’s surprising response. Lauren and Chan discuss Zoë Kravitz and Channing Tatum’s shocking split, a very interesting reaction from someone in the know, as well as the Lauren’s take on who Channing is morphing into. The gals chat about the woman who sat next to Taylor Swift’s father Scott on a flight and what questions they would have asked him. Finally, they put their business caps on and dive into the decline of Starbucks. Shop Clean Simple Eats protein powder and use code POPAPOLOGISTS for 10% off! Click here to try EarlyBird CBD/THC gummies and use code POPAPOLOGISTS20 for 20% off. To support the show, consider subscribing on Patreon, where you can get a bonus episode of Pop Apologists every Friday! Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Lauren and Chan share the toils of being fashion girlies in Manhattan and give their hot take on sample sales and clothing resale. The gals chat about 50 Cent being the canary in the coal mine about Diddy for the past decade and the upcoming Netflix doc “Diddy Do It?” They air their grievances with members of the Kelce family regarding the Eras tour and what photographic evidence they are waiting to see. Lauren and Chan discuss Harry and Meghan’s recent vacation home purchase in Portugal and what rich people behavior is truly baffling to the commoners. They gals discuss Taylor Swift’s birthday gifts to Travis Kelce and what it says about any future engagement ring. Lauren and Chan touch on Luann De Lesseps’s recent statements about Real Housewife salaries and discuss the costs of being a Real Housewife. The gals chat RHOSLC’s Bronwyn Newport and why Salt Lake City’s Housewives are giving viewers so many reasons to tune in. Finally, Lauren and Chan discuss the heartbreaking details of Liam Payne’s tragic passing. Shop Clean Simple Eats protein powder and use code POPAPOLOGISTS for 10% off! Click here to try EarlyBird CBD/THC gummies and use code POPAPOLOGISTS20 for 20% off. To support the show, consider subscribing on Patreon, where you can get a bonus episode of Pop Apologists every Friday! Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Lauren and Chan dive into the mystery that is Taylor Swift’s style and try and determine why Taylor is choosing to spend her one wild and precious life dressed like Hermione going out for the weekend. The gals chat about Jessica Chastain putting Jet Blue on blast via Twitter and why it didn’t have the desired outcome with the public. They discuss Hailey Bieber’s distance with her parents and why Hailey isn’t the average nepo baby. Lauren and Chan touch on the allegations of Elon Musk spying on Amber Heard and why Amber is living her best life post-Johnny Depp trial. The gals do a quick fashion Q&A answering listener questions about fall trends, when it’s ok to splurge, and their thoughts on the best first luxury purchase. Finally, Lauren and Chan get into the RHOC of it all, where they dive into updates on Shannon Beador, vulnerability from Heather Dubrow, and the storyline they would love to hear more from. ​​Shop Clean Simple Eats protein powder and use code POPAPOLOGISTS for 10% off! To support the show, consider subscribing on Patreon, where you can get a bonus episode of Pop Apologists every Friday! Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Lauren and Chan chat about recent life updates, including Lauren’s celebrity sighting in New York City and Chan’s engagement photo conundrum. The gals discuss their theory on what is going on with Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce and unpack some of the rumors that have been circulating. They touch on Meghan Markle’s recent event appearance and the negative spin some creators take with Meghan content. They also discuss Lana Del Rey's recent marriage to Jeremy Dufrene. Lauren and Chan dive into the recent breakup between Kristin Cavallari and Mark Estes and what project has been fast tracked as a result. The gals discuss another couple that may be headed toward a split– Kanye West and Bianca Censori. Finally, they dive into all things Diddy, including a few dark theories, his mother’s statement, and which celebrities are likely sweating big time over Diddy’s arrest. ​​Shop Clean Simple Eats protein powder and use code POPAPOLOGISTS for 10% off! To support the show, consider subscribing on Patreon, where you can get a bonus episode of Pop Apologists every Friday! Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Lauren and Chan are taking a trip down memory lane and sharing exactly how Pop Apologists came to be. The gals talk about the earliest days of the podcast, the day the podcast left the airwaves, and what finally brought Pop Apologists back to the podcast world. They go into detail about some of the most famous Pop Apologists and family lore (Their stint as child activists! Nordstrom ribbon cuttings!) and share more about each member of the Bledsoe family. Finally, Lauren and Chan share more about their lives and careers. ​​ Shop Clean Simple Eats protein powder and use code POPAPOLOGISTS for 10% off! To support the show, consider subscribing on Patreon, where you can get a bonus episode of Pop Apologists every Friday! Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Lauren and Chan have their beloved brother-in-law Wyatt Grow join the podcast to answer listener questions and share some wisdom. Wyatt and the gals answer the following: How to get my boyfriend to propose? How does he feel about Courtney's spending? What he wishes he knew before having children? How did you know you were ready to have kids? Which Bledsoe sister would he want to be stranded with on a desert island? What would he do if he was president for the day? How would he handle dividing up the fictional Bledsoe estate? Which Bledsoe sister would he ask to help bury a body? How to show up in a marriage when you're feeling tired and stressed? What should you be looking for in a partner? How to handle mood swings with a male partner? What is his favorite thing about being married into the Bledsoe family? ​​Shop Clean Simple Eats protein powder and use code POPAPOLOGISTS for 10% off! Click here to try EarlyBird CBD/THC gummies and use code POPAPOLOGISTS20 for 20% off. To support the show, consider subscribing on Patreon, where you can get a bonus episode of Pop Apologists every Friday! Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Lauren and Chan are joined by special guest Indy Blue to chat about all things related to "The Secret Lives of Mormon Wives." The gals dive into the complicated dynamics of not just the women on the show, but how the show relates specifically to Utah Mormon culture and what it looks like to be Mormon in today's world. They look at the relationships between the women and their husbands, the perception of the level of sinning, the issues the women on the show face as a result of being raised in a religious patriarchal society, and the real impact of MomTok. ​​Shop Clean Simple Eats protein powder and use code POPAPOLOGISTS for 10% off! Click here to try EarlyBird CBD/THC gummies and use code POPAPOLOGISTS20 for 20% off. To support the show, consider subscribing on Patreon, where you can get a bonus episode of Pop Apologists every Friday! Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

TRIGGER WARNING: This episode contains graphic details concerning the death of Laci and Conner Peterson. In a two part series, Lauren and Chan are diving into the disappearance of Laci Peterson, a California woman who went missing on Christmas Eve 2002 when she was 8 months pregnant. Her husband Scott Peterson was convicted of her murder in 2004, but there are remaining questions that have some people wondering if it is possible that Scott did not actually kill Laci and their unborn baby, Conner. In part two of this two part series, the gals discuss Scott Peterson's continuous lies about his affair with Amber Frey, the discovery of Laci and Conner's bodies, Scott's arrest and trial, and Scott's efforts to prove his innocence. Shop Clean Simple Eats protein powder and use code POPAPOLOGISTS for 10% off! Click here to try EarlyBird CBD/THC gummies and use code POPAPOLOGISTS20 for 20% off. To support the show, consider subscribing on Patreon, where you can get a bonus episode of Pop Apologists every Friday! Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

In a two part series, Lauren and Chan are diving into the disappearance of Laci Peterson, a California woman who went missing on Christmas Eve 2002 when she was 8 months pregnant. Her husband Scott Peterson was convicted of her murder in 2004, but there are remaining questions that have some people wondering if it is possible that Scott did not actually kill Laci and their unborn baby. In part one of this two part series, the gals discuss the events leading up to Laci's disappearance, Scott's alleged activities of Christmas Eve 2002, the investigation into Laci's disappearance, and the bombshell information that showed the public that Scott Peterson wasn't the devoted husband people thought he was. Continue listening to part two and hear more about the investigation, discovery of Laci and Conner, Scott's trial, and his efforts to prove his innocence. Shop Clean Simple Eats protein powder and use code POPAPOLOGISTS for 10% off! Click here to try EarlyBird CBD/THC gummies and use code POPAPOLOGISTS20 for 20% off. To support the show, consider subscribing on Patreon, where you can get a bonus episode of Pop Apologists every Friday! Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Lauren and Chan are diving into all the drama surrounding Blake Lively, Justin Baldoni, and the movie It Ends With Us. The gals give their take on Meghan Markle's recent visit to Colombia, where she surprised everyone with her Spanish speaking skills. They also discussed what could have been if the British royal family and media had embraced Meghan's strengths, rather than take issue with her from the start. Lauren and Chan discuss the terrifying story of Mike Lynch's superyacht capsizing off the coast of Sicily. Finally, the gals discuss the five members of the ketamine ring who are being charged in connection to Matthew Perry's death. Shop Clean Simple Eats protein powder and use code POPAPOLOGISTS for 10% off! Click here to try EarlyBird CBD/THC gummies and use code POPAPOLOGISTS20 for 20% off. To support the show, consider subscribing on Patreon, where you can get a bonus episode of Pop Apologists every Friday! Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Lauren and Chan give some life updates, including Lauren's upcoming travel conundrum and Chan's dream birthday gift. The gals dive into Gywneth Paltrow and Brad Falchuk potentially having some trouble in their Montecito paradise and the tabloid article that had a surprising amount of insight. They take a look at another pair who may be consciously uncoupling, Sara Foster and longtime partner Tommy Haas, and why marriage was never in the cards for them. Lauren and Chan talk about the video where Travis Kelce mentions "The Taylor Swift Effect" and why Travis really is the perfect partner for Taylor. Finally, the gals chat about Harry and Meghan's recent launch of The Parents' Network and why it is important to take a balanced approach with Meghan Markle. Shop Clean Simple Eats protein powder and use code POPAPOLOGISTS for 10% off! Click here to try EarlyBird CBD/THC gummies and use code POPAPOLOGISTS20 for 20% off. To support the show, consider subscribing on Patreon, where you can get a bonus episode of Pop Apologists every Friday! Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Lauren and Chan are joined by Dana Omari-Harrell from @igfamousbydana to dive into the beauty practices, products, and trends that have listeners wondering whether they are legit or just scams. They chat about the creators on Instagram who are claiming to transform your face through facia massage and facial HIIT training. The gals discuss the beauty device that both Chanler and Dana love and why it actually works. Dana shares her thoughts on microneedling at home vs. a med spa. Finally, the gals dive into which procedure Dana hates and her opinion on popular trends such as Morpheus8, buccal fat removal, and Sculptra. Shop Clean Simple Eats protein powder and use code POPAPOLOGISTS for 10% off! Click here to try EarlyBird CBD/THC gummies and use code POPAPOLOGISTS20 for 20% off. To support the show, consider subscribing on Patreon, where you can get a bonus episode of Pop Apologists every Friday! Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Lauren and Chan chat about the $600 million wedding spectacle seen 'round the world and consider why bigger doesn't always mean better. The gals discuss American Riviera Orchard and the super luxe brand Flamingo Estate, where Meghan Markle seemingly gathered a great deal of inspiration. They then dive into why Alec Baldwin's involuntary manslaughter trial was dismissed and what they are really looking forward to watching from the Baldwins. Lauren and Chan take a look at Katy Perry's new song and music video and give their take on why Katy's satirical attempt at female empowerment has fallen flat. Finally, the gals discuss the RHOC premiere, which has given them all the elements they have been waiting for in a great Housewives episode. Shop Clean Simple Eats protein powder and use code POPAPOLOGISTS for 10% off! Go to EarlyBirdCBD.com to get our favorite CBD/THC gummies and use code POPAPOLOGISTS20 for 20% off. This episode is brought to you by BetterHelp. Give online therapy a try at betterhelp.com/stunning today and get 10% off your first month. To support the show, consider subscribing on Patreon, where you can get a bonus episode of Pop Apologists every Friday! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Lauren and Chan discuss Bethenny Frankel's new podcast segment about dating and their thoughts on the truly shocking advice Bethenny is dishing out. The gals touch on some additional Bethenny news, specifically her recent statements about Aurora Culpo and ex Paul Bernon. They dive into the recent gossip about a shitty situation at Gwyneth Paltrow's guest house. Lauren and Chan give their take on Gypsy Rose Blanchard's recent pregnancy announcement. The gals chat about Brad Pitt hard launching his girlfriend Ines de Ramon at the Grand Prix Silverstone Circuit. Finally, Chan gives some shocking updates on the Karen Reid trial. Stick around for a Pop Apologists Golden Moment, where Lauren shares a shitty situation of her own. Shop Clean Simple Eats protein powder and use code POPAPOLOGISTS for 10% off! Go to EarlyBirdCBD.com to get our favorite CBD/THC gummies and use code POPAPOLOGISTS20 for 20% off. To support the show, consider subscribing on Patreon, where you can get a bonus episode of Pop Apologists every Friday! Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Once upon a time, millennial girls across the globe were used to seeing Mary-Kate and Ashley Olsen everywhere- from family favorite Full House in the 80's and 90's to their direct to video movies, cd's, and merch that was all over WalMart stores. Then, Mary-Kate and Ashley seemingly vanished from public view altogether. Buckle in and hear all about how Mary-Kate and Ashley Olsen went from being the most overexposed twins on the planet to embracing quiet luxury before it was cool and becoming two of the most highly respected forces in the fashion world. Shop Clean Simple Eats protein powder and use code POPAPOLOGISTS for 10% off! Go to EarlyBirdCBD.com to get our favorite CBD/THC gummies and use code POPAPOLOGISTS20 for 20% off. To support the show, consider subscribing on Patreon, where you can get a bonus episode of Pop Apologists every Friday! Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Lauren and Chan are joined by travel advisor Alexandra Stockton to talk about all things travel. Alexandra specializes in luxury travel across the globe and answers listener questions such as: -why using a travel advisor is the way to go -when is the best time to book a hotel -which vacation destinations are overhyped and overcrowded -where to travel if you're looking for a sugar daddy -where are some of the best honeymoon locations -which locations at the best for vacations in the US -what a travel advisor does for a group trip -why she stays away from AirBNB and VRBO properties Lauren and Chan also share their go-to airport style, their packing philosophy, and their biggest travel hack. You can find Alexandra Stockton at alexandrastockton.com or on Instagram at @alexandrahstockton or @alexandrastocktontravel Shop Clean Simple Eats protein powder and use code POPAPOLOGISTS for 10% off! Go to EarlyBirdCBD.com to get our favorite CBD/THC gummies and use code POPAPOLOGISTS20 for 20% off. To support the show, considersubscribing on Patreon, where you can get a bonus episode of Pop Apologists every Friday! Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Lauren and Chan have prepared a deep dive on the trial of Karen Read, a Massachusetts woman who is being accused of murdering her Boston police officer boyfriend, John O'Keefe. The gals give an overview of this ongoing trial, which is the opposite of an open-and-shut case. They discuss the many details that are not adding up from his trial, including deleted phone calls and text messages, middle of the night internet searches, a potential police conspiracy and massive coverup, a federal investigation, and so much more. This case has Lauren and Chan truly wondering what could have happened to John O'Keefe, since the evidence is anything but clear and convincing. Shop Clean Simple Eats protein powder and use code POPAPOLOGISTS for 10% off! Go to EarlyBirdCBD.com to get our favorite CBD/THC gummies and use code POPAPOLOGISTS20 for 20% off. This episode is brought to you by BetterHelp. Give online therapy a try at betterhelp.com/stunning today and get 10% off your first month. To support the show, consider subscribing on Patreon, where you can get a bonus episode of Pop Apologists every Friday! Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Lauren and Chan discuss the latest news on Ben Affleck and Jennifer Lopez's marriage and speculate why Ben and Jennifer might be selling their $60 million dollar home if it's not for a divorce. The gals chat about the upcoming E! reality series starring Denise Richards and her daughters and their questions about the family's digital income streams. They dive into TJ Holmes's recent comments about Amy Robach and chat about which details strain credulity. Lauren and Chan discuss the statements from a Matty Healy source that furthers the conclusion that Matty is truly the smallest man who ever lived. The gals discuss Donald Trump's recent statements about Taylor Swift and what kind of presidential debate they can get on board with. Finally, Lauren and Chan give their thoughts on Travis Kelce's recent car wash video and why they think it's such a refreshing change for Taylor. Shop Clean Simple Eats protein powder and use code POPAPOLOGISTS for 10% off! Go to EarlyBirdCBD.com to get our favorite CBD/THC gummies and use code POPAPOLOGISTS20 for 20% off. To support the show, consider subscribing on Patreon, where you can get a bonus episode of Pop Apologists every Friday! Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.