Point of Relation with Thomas Huebl

Thomas is joined by writer, speaker, and meditation teacher Sebene Selassie. She provides guidance and wisdom for meditation instructors and beginners alike. She and Thomas discuss ways to create a consistent, coherent, and long-term practice, even when meditation feels difficult or overwhelming due to trauma. Sebene explains key elements, such as mindfulness and compassion, that can help us build a strong foundation and observe what arises during meditation with kindness and understanding. She and Thomas also explore how meditation can benefit activism and participation in society, and the importance of practicing in relation and community, especially for those of us dealing with trauma. Sebene opens up about her own healing journey, and how her meditation practice has helped her accept difficult realities and learn to be present with pain. She shares how her practice has illuminated our interconnectedness, and how we can all use our basic senses to experience this connection and shape our experience of reality. ✨ Order Thomas’ new book, “Attuned: Practicing Interdependence to Heal Our Trauma–And Our World” here: 👉 https://www.attunedbook.com/ ✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website: 👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com Sebene Selassie is a writer, teacher, and speaker who explores themes of belonging, resilience, and transformation through contemplative, creative, and nature-based practices. She is trained as a meditation teacher, an integral coach, a practitioner of Indigenous Focusing Oriented Therapy for Complex Trauma (IFOT), and is a licensed hiking guide in New York State. Sebene is also a devoted student of mystic traditions. She has taught classes, workshops, and retreats since 2010. Her first book, You Belong: A Call for Connection, is published by HarperOne. Learn more here: 👉 https://www.sebeneselassie.com 👉 https://sebeneselassie.substack.com Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma. In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University. ✨ Connect with Thomas here: Website: https://thomashuebl.com/ Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/ Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/ThomasHuebl YouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashuebl

Thomas is joined by celebrated business thinker, social entrepreneur, Founder of "The Week", and author of Reinventing Organizations, Frederic Laloux. They discuss how hierarchy relies on certain people having power over others, and how this concept is antithetical to our true human nature, despite being deeply ingrained in society. They explore Frederic’s work to help organizations shift to a “self-managing” model, and what it takes to get people on board. Frederic has learned that by bringing people together to surface their deepest assumptions about their way of operating, and examining what that implies about humanity, they can organically come to accept a non-hierarchical structure. He and Thomas discuss how our economic and educational systems reify a worldview of scarcity and distrust, and how we would all benefit from a more communal society. They also dive deep into Frederic’s work on climate change, and how his organization “The Week” is creating spaces to process the harsh reality of environmental disaster so that we can discover new avenues to combat it without feeling alienated and alone. ✨ Order Thomas’ new book, “Attuned: Practicing Interdependence to Heal Our Trauma–And Our World” here: 👉 https://www.attunedbook.com/ ✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website: 👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com Frederic Laloux is a celebrated business thinker and social entrepreneur. His seminal book Reinventing Organizations has sold more than 1,000,000 copies in 20+ languages. It is widely considered to have opened up a new field of inquiry and practice into a more purposeful, soulful, and productive management paradigm. His thinking has inspired countless leaders from start-ups to large corporations, from nonprofits to faith movements, and from government agencies to founders of some of the largest climate movements. His current focus is on The Week, a powerful new approach to inspire mass mobilization to confront the climate and environmental breakdown. Learn more here: 👉 https://www.theweek.ooo/ Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma. In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University. ✨ Connect with Thomas here: Website: https://thomashuebl.com/ Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/ Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/ThomasHuebl YouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashuebl

Thomas discusses two forces that drive us as human beings: the will to become, and the will to belong. He explores how our formative parental relationships can either encourage or subdue our drive to become our authentic selves and how our early strategies to compensate for scarcity can influence our path as adults. Thomas emphasizes the relationship between becoming and creativity and notes the harm caused by inhibiting a child’s freedom to be themselves. Ultimately, we all seek nourishing relationships imbued with supportive energy. And although trauma tends to reduce our spiritual energy, we can learn to reconnect to the source and get back to a place of abundance.This episode was recorded as part of the 2018 Celebrate Life Festival.✨ Order Thomas’ book, “Attuned: Practicing Interdependence to Heal Our Trauma–And Our World” here: 👉 https://www.attunedbook.com/  ✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website: 👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma. In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University.✨ Connect with Thomas here:Website: https://thomashuebl.com/ Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/ Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/ThomasHuebl YouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashuebl

Thomas is joined by wholeness advocate, thought leader, and legendary Grammy Award-winning singer-songwriter, Alanis Morissette.They discuss how to adhere to your values while passionately pursuing your life’s purpose, and how to re-connect to your authentic self after experiencing trauma. Alanis shares the somatic practices that helped her to overcome dissociation and experience embodiment again, and the pivotal role that art and music played in her journey.She and Thomas also explore how difficult it can be to thrive in a competitive, male-dominated industry as a highly sensitive person, and how becoming a parent contributed to her personal development and ultimately helped her heal her own trauma.✨ Order Thomas’ book, “Attuned: Practicing Interdependence to Heal Our Trauma–And Our World” here: 👉 https://www.attunedbook.com/  ✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website: 👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com  Alanis Morissette is a widely influential singer-songwriter with 14 Canadian Juno Awards, 7 Grammys, and over 75 million albums sold. She’s known for her debut “JAGGED LITTLE PILL,” and has released nine more acclaimed albums. Beyond music and acting, she’s committed to spiritual and psychological well-being, supporting causes like recovery and female empowerment. In 2016, she launched a podcast where she shares her insights. Her multifaceted career highlights her impact across multiple platforms and subjects. ✨ Connect with Alanis Morissette here: 👉 https://alanis.com/  Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma. In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University.✨ Connect with Thomas here:Website: https://thomashuebl.com/ Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/ Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/ThomasHuebl YouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashuebl #thomashuebl #collectivetrauma #healing

On this episode of Point of Relation, Thomas is joined by author, political candidate, and former US Capitol Police Officer Harry Dunn, and author, consultant, and advocate for post-trauma awareness, Bob Delaney. They discuss the trauma faced by public servants, including those in law enforcement, and what can be done to foster healing and end cultural stigmas around therapy and mental health challenges. Harry opens up about how he’s channeling his anger from a traumatic experience into positive action for change. He explains how his willingness to be open about his struggles has been instrumental in his healing and is now an inspiration for others.All three agree that vulnerability comes from a place of strength, not weakness, and they explore how we can create safe, judgment-free environments where those who have experienced trauma can feel comfortable opening up and receiving help.Point of Relation podcast does not support or oppose candidates for public office or political parties. Guest appearances do not imply endorsement by the host or producers. ✨ Order Thomas’ book, “Attuned: Practicing Interdependence to Heal Our Trauma–And Our World” here: 👉 https://www.attunedbook.com✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website: 👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com Harry Dunn joined the United States Capitol Police in 2008, and since 2011 has served with the rank of Private First Class. He has been on duty for presidential inaugurations, joint sessions of Congress, State of the Union addresses as well as hundreds of peaceful protests and demonstrations. As a Crisis Intervention Officer on the USCP Crisis Negotiation Team, he is trained to respond to hostage or barricade situations and assisting individuals who may be experiencing a mental crisis.  He speaks candidly about the trauma he experienced as well as the larger sociopolitical and historical significance of the events he witnessed. A prominent and essential voice, Officer Dunn shares his first-hand experience with audiences that include government groups, law enforcement, mental health professionals, colleges and universities, and community organizations.✨ Connect with Harry Dunn here: 👉 https://harrydunnforcongress.com/Bob Delaney is an author and an advocate for post-trauma awareness. He has worked with the military, law enforcement, firefighters, first responders, healthcare workers, and many others by providing post-trauma awareness and education. His contributions to PTSD awareness and support to military officials and their families have been recognized with honors and proclamations from many, including President Barack Obama and senior-ranking military leaders. He consults globally on leadership, resiliency, trauma, and self-care.✨ Connect with Bob Delaney here: 👉 http://www.delaneyconsultants.com/ Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma. In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University.✨ Connect with Thomas here:Website: https://thomashuebl.com/YouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashueblFacebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/ThomasHuebl 

Thomas Hübl explores what motivates people to walk the spiritual path, and how it can be difficult to discern our true calling when our personal and societal environments are fragmented. He explains how being present with and processing our experiences allows us to fulfill our spiritual karma, heal inherited wounds, and close narrative circles that originated in the past.Thomas defines karma as an unconscious energy that presents us with a choice: allow this energy to be passed on un-processed, or consciously process this energy so that we can light the way towards a more creative, authentic, and evolved future.This episode was recorded during the 2018 Celebrate Life Festival.✨ Order Thomas’ book, “Attuned: Practicing Interdependence to Heal Our Trauma–And Our World” here: 👉 https://www.attunedbook.com✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website: 👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma. In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University.✨ Connect with Thomas here:Website: https://thomashuebl.com/YouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashuebl Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/ Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/ThomasHuebl

On this episode of Point of Relation, Thomas is joined by author, spiritual teacher, outspoken activist, and the founder of the Center for Transformative Change - Reverend angel Kyodo williams. They discuss the healing power of being seen as your true self, and how this creates the conditions for collective healing.Rev. angel explores how systems of power and oppression have created divisions in our society and undermined our sense of belonging, especially for Black people and other marginalized groups.But in creating safe spaces that are resilient enough to allow our true selves and feelings to arise, we find relationality through our suffering, and begin to heal these culturally ingrained divisions.And while this work is neither comfortable nor easy, our increasing willingness to sit with discomfort illustrates our innate desire for liberation and connectedness. ✨ Order Thomas’ book, “Attuned: Practicing Interdependence to Heal Our Trauma–And Our World” here: 👉 https://www.attunedbook.com/  ✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website: 👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com  Rev. angel Kyodo williams is a maverick spiritual teacher, master trainer, outspoken activist and social visionary. She is a leading voice for Transformative Change, practicing at the intersection of personal change and social transformation. For over 15 years, she has deeply invested her time and energy in putting into practice her unwavering belief that the key to transforming society is transforming our inner lives. She has developed comprehensive systems for illuminating both practical personal change and the profoundly liberating potential of mindfulness, yoga, and somatic practices coupled with wisdom teachings. ✨ Connect with Rev. angel Kyodo williams here: 👉 https://revangel.com/ Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma. In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University.✨ Connect with Thomas here:Website: https://thomashuebl.com/ Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/ Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/ThomasHuebl YouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashuebl #thomashuebl #collectivetrauma #healing

On this episode of Point of Relation, Thomas is joined by author, consultant, and advocate for post-trauma awareness, Bob Delaney. They discuss the profound impact of Bob’s time doing undercover work to infiltrate mafia crime families. He experienced intense shame and guilt from deceiving the people he was investigating, despite believing that the work was necessary. He and Thomas discuss how Bob overcame the isolation and trauma of repressing these emotions, and how society can better serve the first responders who endure so much trauma in their lines of work. Bob emphasizes the importance of having outlets to express emotions rather than repressing them and the need to improve attunement and relational capacities between these workers and the people they’re serving. ✨ Order Thomas’ new book, “Attuned: Practicing Interdependence to Heal Our Trauma–And Our World” here: 👉 https://www.attunedbook.com/ ✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website: 👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com Bob Delaney is an author and an advocate for post-trauma awareness. He has worked with the military, law enforcement, firefighters, first responders, healthcare workers, and many others by providing post-trauma awareness and education. His contributions to PTSD awareness and support to military officials and their families have been recognized with honors and proclamations from many, including President Barack Obama and senior-ranking military leaders. He consults globally on leadership, resiliency, trauma, and self-care. ✨ Connect with Bob Delaney here: 👉 http://www.delaneyconsultants.com/ Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma. In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University. ✨ Connect with Thomas here: Website: https://thomashuebl.com/ Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/ Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/ThomasHuebl YouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashuebl #thomashuebl #collectivetrauma #healing

Thomas answers questions submitted by listeners. He explores how post-traumatic learning and growth can occur both individually and collectively. Collective healing is a powerful force that can help our societies evolve by surfacing past wounds that need to be addressed, giving us the opportunity to restore our social ethics, and helping to prevent similar traumatic events from occurring in the future. He also discusses what causes a person to be “highly sensitive,” and how approaches to nervous system regulation and emotional grounding should be tailored to fit the needs of people with this type of refined perception. ✨ Order Thomas’ new book, “Attuned: Practicing Interdependence to Heal Our Trauma–And Our World” here: 👉 https://www.attunedbook.com/ ✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website: 👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma. In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University. ✨ Connect with Thomas here: Website: https://thomashuebl.com/ Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/ Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/ThomasHuebl YouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashuebl

On this episode of Point of Relation, Thomas is joined by humanitarian, writer, and social entrepreneur Zainab Salbi. They discuss the difficult nature of working in the humanitarian space to address the many injustices that people, particularly women, face worldwide. Zainab explains how being open and vulnerable about her own traumatic experiences gave her the compassion and inspiration needed to tell women’s stories and work to end oppression, systemic violence, and climate change. In a line of work that is so emotionally taxing, she’s learned firsthand how crucial it is to resource yourself with the same kindness you show to others and care for your own emotional well-being. As she puts it, “You can’t give out of an empty well.” Trigger Warning: This episode includes discussion of sexual assault and violence against women. If you anticipate this topic to be too triggering for you to hear about and effectively process on your own, we recommend you choose not to listen. ✨ Order Thomas’ new book, “Attuned: Practicing Interdependence to Heal Our Trauma–And Our World” here: 👉 https://www.attunedbook.com/ ✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website: 👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com Zainab Salbi is a humanitarian, a writer and a social entrepreneur who has dedicated her life to women’s rights and freedom. She is the co-founder of Daughters for Earth and Women for Women International, a humanitarian organization dedicated to women survivors of wars. She is the author of several books, including Freedom Is an Inside Job; Owning our Darkness and Our Light to Change Ourselves and the World. She is also the Executive Editor and Host of several shows including Through Her Eyes with Yahoo News, and The Zainab Salbi Project with Huffington Post. She is a Young Global Leader with the World Economic Forum and serves on the Boards of Vital Voices, International Refugee Assistance Program (IRAP), and Synergos International. ✨ Connect with Zainab Salbi here: 👉 https://zainabsalbi.com Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma. In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University. ✨ Connect with Thomas here: Website: https://thomashuebl.com/ Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/ Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/ThomasHuebl YouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashuebl #thomashuebl #collectivetrauma #healing

On this episode of Point of Relation, Thomas is joined by poet, author, speaker, and leadership consultant, David Whyte. They discuss the deep benefits of learning to hold both happiness and difficulty at the same time. David shares some of his poetry and the personal experiences that helped him to directly observe the interconnectedness of all living beings.He and Thomas explore our individual and collective reluctance to be vulnerable, present, and open to change, and how embracing those aspects of life can open us to true maturation and healing. As David explains, there is beauty to be found even in pain and grief, and making space for these challenging emotions also opens us to the most joyous ones.✨ Order Thomas Hübl’s book, “Attuned: Practicing Interdependence to Heal Our Trauma–And Our World” here: 👉 https://www.attunedbook.com/  ✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website: 👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.comDavid Whyte is the author of eleven books of poetry and four books of prose. He holds a degree in Marine Zoology, has worked as a naturalist guide in the Galapagos Islands, and has led anthropological and natural history expeditions in the Andes, Amazon, and the Himalayas. He works with many European, American, and international companies in the field of organizational development. He is the recipient of two honorary degrees: from Neumann College in Pennsylvania and Royal Roads University in Victoria, British Columbia.✨ Connect with David Whyte here: 👉 https://davidwhyte.com/  Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma. In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University.✨ Connect with Thomas here:Website: https://thomashuebl.com/ Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/ Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/ThomasHuebl YouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashuebl #thomashuebl #collectivetrauma #healing

Thomas is joined by PhD trauma researcher, life coach, and the author of "Unbroken", MaryCatherine McDonald. They discuss Dr. McDonald’s work to redefine our understanding of trauma and eliminate the stigma surrounding it. Using scientific research, and through the lens of her own experiences with trauma and grief, Dr. McDonald has developed a definition of trauma that describes it as “an unbearable emotional experience that lacks a relational home.” She and Thomas explore how symptoms of trauma are adaptive rather than pathological, and how feeling ashamed of them inhibits our ability to heal. Dr. McDonald explains that healing is “an evolution and a becoming, not a destination that we arrive at,” and offers insight into how relational attunement and group trauma work can support us on this non-linear path. ✨ Order Thomas Hübl’s new book, “Attuned: Practicing Interdependence to Heal Our Trauma–And Our World” here: 👉 https://www.attunedbook.com/ ✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website: 👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma. In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University. ✨ Connect with Thomas here: Website: https://thomashuebl.com/ Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/ Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/ThomasHuebl YouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashuebl #thomashuebl #collectivetrauma #healing

Thomas answers questions from Point of Relation listeners about activism, presencing, and staying grounded and open to joy amidst global suffering and uncertainty. He explores the mutually resourcing relationship between contemplative, internal practices, and collective actions that aim to affect social and political change. He also offers tools and practices to help us maintain emotional and spiritual regulation while being deeply affected by current events. ✨ Order Thomas Hübl’s new book, “Attuned: Practicing Interdependence to Heal Our Trauma–And Our World” here: 👉 https://www.attunedbook.com/ ✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website: 👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma. In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University. ✨ Connect with Thomas here: Website: https://thomashuebl.com/ Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/ Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/ThomasHuebl YouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashuebl #thomashuebl #collectivetrauma #healing

In this short bonus episode, Tibetan Buddhist teacher, author, and co-founder of the Namchak Foundation, Lama Tsomo shares a Tonglen Meditation practice. In Tibetan, Tonglen means “sending and receiving.” Lama Tsomo guides us through a compassion practice focused on the pain of being misunderstood. She invites us to first send compassion to ourselves, then to someone we know, and finally to all of humanity.In this 10-minute meditation, the empathetic part of our brain is activated, dissolving the barrier between “us” and “them" and inspiring connection to ourselves, our loved ones, and the world.✨ Order Thomas Hübl’s book, “Attuned: Practicing Interdependence to Heal Our Trauma–And Our World” here: 👉 https://www.attunedbook.com/  ✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website: 👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com  Lama Tsomo is an American lama, author, and co-founder of the Namchak Retreat Ranch, specializing in Tibetan Buddhist wisdom and meditation. Born into a Jewish household, she became a lama in Tibetan Buddhism and is fluent in Tibetan. She is passionate about educating young people and supporting positive social change. She holds an M.A. in Counseling Psychology and has authored two books about Tibetan Buddhist practices. ✨ Connect with Lama Tsomo here: 👉 https://www.namchak.org/ Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma. In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University.✨ Connect with Thomas here:Website: https://thomashuebl.com/ Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/ Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/ThomasHuebl YouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashuebl #thomashuebl #collectivetrauma #healing

Thomas is joined by Tibetan Buddhist teacher, author, and co-founder of the Namchak Foundation, Lama Tsomo. They discuss Tibetan Buddhist teachings and practices that illuminate our fundamental interconnectedness and enable us to approach our relationships and our reality with greater compassion and empathy. Lama Tsomo explains how Compassion Meditation can help loosen the grip of the ego, and make us less reactive in conflict. They also explore the different levels of depth in meditation practice, the deep, healing value of group practices, and how we can experience spiritual one-ness and unification without bypassing the hardships of our physical reality. As Lama Tsomo puts it, “The antidote to violence is empathy.” ✨ Order Thomas Hübl’s new book, “Attuned: Practicing Interdependence to Heal Our Trauma–And Our World” here: 👉 https://www.attunedbook.com/ ✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website: 👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com Lama Tsomo is an American lama, author, and co-founder of the Namchak Retreat Ranch, specializing in Tibetan Buddhist wisdom and meditation. Born into a Jewish household, she became a lama in Tibetan Buddhism and is fluent in Tibetan. She is passionate about educating young people and supporting positive social change. She holds an M.A. in Counseling Psychology and has authored two books about Tibetan Buddhist practices. ✨ Connect with Lama Tsomo here: 👉 https://www.namchak.org/ Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma. In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University. ✨ Connect with Thomas here: Website: https://thomashuebl.com/ Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/ Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/ThomasHuebl YouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashuebl #thomashuebl #collectivetrauma #healing

On this episode of Point of Relation, Thomas is joined by author, poet, ordained Zen Buddhist priest, teacher, and artist, Zenju Earthlyn Manuel. They discuss the gateways in Zenju’s life that put her on her spiritual path. Zenju beautifully describes the joyful curiosity of spiritual inquiry, and the power of ritual and ceremony to create sacred spaces where collective pain and trauma can be expressed, witnessed, and healed. She explores the rhythmic quality of ritual and meditative practices, and how they can help us access a deep silence from which creativity and presence naturally emerge. She and Thomas also explore the accessibility of meditation, the benefits of ancestral healing, and the spiritual qualities of social justice work. ✨ Order Thomas Hübl’s new book, “Attuned: Practicing Interdependence to Heal Our Trauma–And Our World” here: 👉 https://www.attunedbook.com/ ✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website: 👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com Zenju Earthlyn Marselean Manuel - author, visual artist, poet, drummer, and ordained Zen Buddhist priest, was born in Los Angeles, California to parents who migrated from Creole Louisiana. Zenju Earthlyn's spiritual writing is steeped in ancient memories of her ancestors and therefore explores the deep inner spiritual journey of our human existence. Her publications are rich with insights into birth and death, transformation, transcendence, and the exploration of other worlds. In essence, she offers the riches of her internal discoveries that can be difficult to put into words. Her work has been endorsed by venerable teachers such as Thich Nhat Hanh, Charles Johnson, and Iyanla Vazant. She holds both a master's and a doctorate degree. ✨ Connect with Zenju here: 👉 https://zenju.org/ Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma. In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University. ✨ Connect with Thomas here: Website: https://thomashuebl.com/ Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/ Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/ThomasHuebl YouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashuebl #thomashuebl #collectivetrauma #healing

Thomas is joined by filmmaker and founder of the Identity Development Institute, Stephen Gyllenhaal. They discuss the pain of living during these uncertain and tumultuous times, and how having the courage to face our collective trauma can help us navigate this unprecedented era. In an interconnected world, things like violence, war, and mental illness are undeniable. And sometimes the institutions that are meant to address these problems fall short. Stephen and Thomas explore the importance of surfacing our collective wounds, and resonating with them so that those who are suffering can maintain healing connections instead of feeling isolated and alone. ✨ Order Thomas Hübl’s new book, “Attuned: Practicing Interdependence to Heal Our Trauma–And Our World” here: 👉 https://www.attunedbook.com/ ✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website: 👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com In 2017, after 50 years in the psychological sector, Stephen founded The Identity Development Institute helping people heal from the impact of trauma from conception through pre-verbal development. He’s also been an award-winning Hollywood director, primarily focusing on psychological issues, and in recent years has turned his attention to documentaries that explore social structures and early human development. ✨ Connect with Stephen here: 👉 https://www.identitydevelopmentinstitute.com/ Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma. In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University. ✨ Connect with Thomas here: Website: https://thomashuebl.com/ Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/ Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/ThomasHuebl YouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashuebl #thomashuebl #collectivetrauma #healing

In part two of this special Q&A series, Thomas answers more of the thoughtful questions submitted by listeners during his recent live event with Dr. Gabor Maté. This Q&A centers on topics explored in Thomas’ recently released book - Attuned. In this episode, Thomas discusses the impact of individual healing and attunement on larger social systems, and what is needed to create more grounded, attuned, and trauma-informed workplaces. ✨ Order Thomas Hübl’s new book, “Attuned: Practicing Interdependence to Heal Our Trauma–And Our World” here: 👉 https://www.attunedbook.com/ ✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website: 👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma. In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University. ✨ Connect with Thomas here: Website: https://thomashuebl.com/ Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/ Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/ThomasHuebl YouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashuebl #thomashuebl #collectivetrauma #healing

Thomas is joined by cultural anthropologist, social entrepreneur, and author, Joana Breidenbach. They discuss the ecosystem of disinformation that is fragmenting society and the systemic factors that contribute to it.Joana explains the role that technology plays in how we obtain and interpret information, exploring the motives of those who spread disinformation, and the historical trends that have made it increasingly difficult for people to understand unfamiliar perspectives. She and Thomas also examine how individual and collective trauma can make us more susceptible to disinformation, and how greater self-reflection, embodiment, and humility can make us more resilient to it.✨ Order Thomas Hübl’s book, “Attuned: Practicing Interdependence to Heal Our Trauma–And Our World” here: 👉 https://www.attunedbook.com/  ✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website: 👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com Joana Breidenbach is a cultural anthropologist, social entrepreneur, and author. She is co-founder of betterplace.org, Germany’s largest donation platform. In 2010, she founded the betterplace lab, a think tank researching the use of digital technologies for the common good. She has been studying with Thomas Hübl for over a decade and explores the importance of inner work for entrepreneurship and social innovation. ✨ Connect with Joana Breidenbach here: 👉 https://www.joanabreidenbach.de/ Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma. In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University.✨ Connect with Thomas here:Website: https://thomashuebl.com/ Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/ Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/ThomasHuebl YouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashuebl #thomashuebl #collectivetrauma #healing

Thomas is interviewed by distinguished Irish poet, theologian and mediator, and the host of the Poetry Unbound podcast, Pádraig Ó Tuama. They discuss the relationship between spirituality, religion, and trauma, and the importance of incorporating art - including writing, poetry, and visual art - into social healing rituals. Pádraig emphasizes that “Art speaks to our being in a different way than rational words.”Their conversation also focuses on the need for structured spaces in society where people can eschew dogmatic thinking and digest fear and pain together in order to feel more grounded and gain valuable new perspectives.✨ Order Thomas Hübl’s book, “Attuned: Practicing Interdependence to Heal Our Trauma–And Our World” here: 👉 https://www.attunedbook.com/  ✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website: 👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com Pádraig Ó Tuama is the host of On Being’s Poetry Unbound — a podcast that has gained over 10 million downloads since its start in 2020 — and also the author of Poetry Unbound; 50 Poems to Open Your Life. Profiled by The New Yorker, and published in Poetry Ireland, the Harvard Review, The Kenyon Review, and many others, he brings interests in conflict, language, religion, and power to his work. His most recent collection is Feed the Beast (Broken Sleep Books, 2022).✨ Connect with Pádraig here: 👉 https://www.padraigotuama.comThomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma. In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University.✨ Connect with Thomas here:Website: https://thomashuebl.com/ Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/ Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/ThomasHuebl YouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashuebl #thomashuebl #collectivetrauma #healing

On this episode of Point of Relation, Thomas Hübl is joined by author, Jungian psychotherapist, and renowned Jewish scholar, Rabbi Dr. Tirzah Firestone. They discuss the centuries of trauma that have yet to be metabolized in our collective unconscious, and what we can do, both individually and collectively, to integrate and heal from this painful shared history.She and Thomas explore how trauma lives in our nervous systems, and is transmitted across generations via epigenetics. They agree that we can start to meaningfully recover from these wounds by borrowing, with permission, the nutrition provided by wisdom traditions around the world.Rabbi Firestone also shares an energy-raising exercise for sparking beautiful renewal.✨ Order Thomas Hübl’s book, “Attuned: Practicing Interdependence to Heal Our Trauma–And Our World” here: 👉 https://www.attunedbook.com/  ✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website: 👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com  Rabbi Tirzah Firestone, PhD, is an author, Jungian psychotherapist, leader in the international Jewish Renewal Movement, and a renowned Jewish scholar and teacher. Widely known for her groundbreaking work on Kabbalah, depth psychology, intergenerational trauma healing, and the re-integration of the feminine wisdom tradition within Judaism, Rabbi Tirzah lectures and teaches internationally about spiritual and ancient wisdom practices that are honed to assist us at this critical time in world history. She is the author of the award-winning book, Wounds into Wisdom: Healing Intergenerational Jewish Trauma.✨Visit her website: 👉 https://www.tirzahfirestone.com/Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma. In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University.✨ Connect with Thomas here:Website: https://thomashuebl.com/ Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/ Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/ThomasHuebl YouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashuebl #thomashuebl #collectivetrauma #healing

In this special Q&A episode, Thomas answers some insightful questions submitted by listeners during his recent live event with Dr. Gabor Maté, which focused on topics explored in Thomas’ recently released book - Attuned: Practicing Interdependence to Heal Our Trauma–And Our World.The questions covered by Thomas explore how to practice attunement in an environment of harsh political polarization, why it’s difficult - but possible - to feel attuned to collective issues even when there is discord in your family or personal relationships, and that the numbness many of us feel in response to trauma is not a barrier to attunement but a valid experience that we would all benefit from attuning to. ✨ Order Thomas Hübl’s book, “Attuned: Practicing Interdependence to Heal Our Trauma–And Our World” here:👉 https://www.attunedbook.com/ ✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website:👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.comThomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma. In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University. ✨ Connect with Thomas here:Website: https://thomashuebl.com/YouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashueblFacebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/ThomasHuebl #thomashuebl #collectivetrauma #healing

Thomas is joined by contemplative social scientist, consultant, and educator in leadership, social justice, and mindfulness, Dr. Angel Acosta. They discuss Artificial Intelligence, or AI, and the radical shifts it is generating in our lives, our work, and our collective consciousness. While AI holds incredible potential for the evolution of humanity, its creation and implementation also raise a number of serious ethical concerns.Thomas and Dr. Acosta explore how this cutting-edge technology mirrors both the best and worst aspects of human society and how our approach to it can either create further discrimination and trauma or help us to better understand ourselves and collectively heal.Key points discussed in this episode include:✨How addressing the biases inherent in AI technology can create a leap forward in collective consciousness ✨The fear that occurs when new inventions arise, and how integrating trauma enables us to assess the situation with more clarity ✨The need to heal deep wounds in our collective unconscious so that they are not propagated by AI ✨How the widespread use of AI represents a major evolutionary moment for our species ✨Exploring what it would look like to develop AI for the specific purpose of healing trauma-----------✨ Order Thomas Hübl’s book, “Attuned: Practicing Interdependence to Heal Our Trauma–And Our World” here: 👉 attunedbook.comSign up for updates by visiting our website: 👉 pointofrelationpodcast.comDr. Angel Acosta is a contemplative social scientist, consultant, and educator in leadership, social justice, and mindfulness who earned his Ed.D. in Curriculum and Teaching from Teachers College at Columbia University. He is the convener of the Healing Centered Education Summit, Chair of the Acosta Institute, and Director of the Garrison Institute's Fellowship Program. 👉 Website 👉 YouTubeThomas Hübl is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator whose lifelong work integrates the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since 2004, he has taught and facilitated programs with more than 100,000 people worldwide, including online courses which he began offering in 2008. The origin of his work and more than two decades of study and practice on healing collective trauma is detailed in his book Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds.Connect with Thomas here. 👉 Website 👉 Facebook 👉 Instagram 👉 Twitter 👉 YouTubeGet to know The Pocket Project: 👉 pocketproject.org

Thomas Hübl is joined by writer, trained Buddhist monk, and meditation teacher, Jack Kornfield. They discuss how Buddhist meditation and mindfulness practices, in combination with more traditional forms of therapy, can help to heal individual and collective trauma.Jack explores how his own traumatic experiences led him to Buddhism. Early in his spiritual journey, he spent extensive time in highly traumatized environments. There, he learned the importance of creating safe, ritual containers where people can come together to share and process their trauma. He believes that mindful, loving awareness is a skill that anyone can learn, and it’s an essential practice for anyone seeking to heal their own trauma or be a compassionate witness to the trauma of others.Ultimately, Jack believes that love is our most powerful tool to address the world’s most dire problems.✨ Order Thomas Hübl’s book, “Attuned: Practicing Interdependence to Heal Our Trauma–And Our World” here: 👉 https://www.attunedbook.com/  ✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website: 👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma. In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University.✨ Connect with Thomas here:Website: https://thomashuebl.com/ Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/ Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/ThomasHuebl YouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashuebl #thomashuebl #collectivetrauma #healing

Thomas is joined by internationally recognized change agent and Professor at Johns Hopkins University, Christina Bethell. They discuss her research and work to transform children’s healthcare systems and promote relational well-being for families and communities. Christina has created what she calls the Positive Childhood Experiences Scale, a measurement of beneficial relational experiences that can help to offset the effects of Adverse Childhood Experiences, or ACEs. She and Thomas explore how medical health providers, therapists, and families can improve their relational attunement and build lasting connections that build pathways to healing.Sign up for updates by visiting our website: 👉 pointofrelationpodcast.com#thomashuebl #trauma #healing

Thomas Hübl shares his perspective on the fundamentals of collective trauma. He describes it as an ecosystem that we all inhabit, and all affect. He explores what societies can do to foster growth and healing while enduring repeated traumatic events, both large-scale and personal. According to Thomas, therein lies the key - healing on both the individual and collective levels.He discusses what makes an effective community healing space, and how such spaces allow us to integrate our traumatic past, giving us the tools to address our current systemic problems and build societies that are more just and resilient.Key Points: 00:00 Introduction 00:58 The existence of collective trauma 04:33 How collective trauma remains frozen  08:51 The need for activism and healing spaces 10:04 Causes and effects of unrecognized trauma 13:41 How to cultivate healing from collective trauma 17:14 Why shared safe spaces are crucial for transformationSign up for updates by visiting our website: 👉 pointofrelationpodcast.com✨ Thomas Hübl’s book, “Attuned: Practicing Interdependence to Heal Our Trauma–And Our World” is out now! Find a copy at your local bookseller, or visit: 👉 attunedbook.comThomas Hübl is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator whose lifelong work integrates the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since 2004, he has taught and facilitated programs with more than 100,000 people worldwide, including online courses which he began offering in 2008. The origin of his work and more than two decades of study and practice on healing collective trauma is detailed in his book Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds.Learn more at thomashuebl.com.#thomashuebl #trauma #healing

Thomas is joined by Senior Lecturer in the MIT Management Sloan School, and the Founding Chair of the Presencing Institute, Otto Scharmer, and facilitator, systems change leader, intrapreneur, and strategist, Antoinette Klatzky. They discuss what Otto calls the “architectures of connection”-- the social systems and structures that can either be extractive and perpetuate violence and trauma, or be open and regenerative and enable healing.Thomas, Antionette, and Otto also explore how they’ve taken differing paths to the same conclusion; that all societies need collective healing spaces where intense emotions and experiences can be witnessed and creative inspiration for the future can emerge.Key Points:00:00 Introduction01:54 Healing as staying heart-connected04:24 The lack of societal architectures for healing spaces10:02 Cultivating our inner soil for regeneration15:42 Social systems and the root of structural violence21:55 Awareness of the social field26:15 The presence of the circle being and how it works35:10 The impact of acknowledging pain and trauma39:37 The enabling conditions for healing Sign up for updates by visiting our website: 👉 pointofrelationpodcast.com✨ Thomas Hübl’s book, “Attuned: Practicing Interdependence to Heal Our Trauma–And Our World” is out now! Find a copy at your local bookseller, or visit: 👉 attunedbook.comThomas Hübl is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator whose lifelong work integrates the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since 2004, he has taught and facilitated programs with more than 100,000 people worldwide, including online courses which he began offering in 2008. The origin of his work and more than two decades of study and practice on healing collective trauma is detailed in his book Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds.Learn more at thomashuebl.com

Thomas speaks with internationally renowned performer, writer of the Muscogee (Creek) Nation, and 23rd Poet Laureate of the United States, Joy Harjo. They discuss the power of poetry to open our awareness, allow access to greater knowledge, and connect with other humans throughout history. Joy shares what drew her to poetry, and how her work is deeply rooted in her ancestral lineage.She and Thomas explore how to attune to the living ancestral field that we inhabit, and how to reckon with historical trauma through storytelling rituals and ceremonies. Joy also reads an excerpt from her 2021 memoir, Poet Warrior: A Call for Love and Justice, and shares two poems, This Morning I Pray for My Enemies, and For Calling the Spirit Back from Wandering the Earth in Its Human Feet.Key Points: 00:00 Introduction 01:47 Finding poetry and one’s divine mission 07:27 Reading snippets from Joy’s books 19:27 The significance of listening 21:38 Poetry as a doorway to the unknown 25:02 Conflict and humanity in storytelling 31:02 Creating fluidity and healing with words 37:59 Channeling your inner knowing 46:29 History never rests 51:41 How poetry and visual art amplify the abstract 57:40 Final thoughtsSign up for updates by visiting our website: 👉 pointofrelationpodcast.com✨ Order Thomas Hübl’s book, “Attuned: Practicing Interdependence to Heal Our Trauma–And Our World” and get free gifts when you follow the steps in the link below: 👉 attunedbook.comJoy Har­jo, the 23rd Poet Lau­re­ate of the Unit­ed States, is a mem­ber of the  Muscogee Nation. Har­jo began writ­ing poet­ry as a mem­ber of the Uni­ver­si­ty of New Mexico’s Native stu­dent orga­ni­za­tion, the Kiva Club, in response to Native empow­er­ment move­ments. Har­jo is the author of ten books of award-winning poet­ry, three children’s books, and sev­er­al screen­plays and col­lec­tions of prose inter­views. Har­jo per­forms with her sax­o­phone and flutes, solo and with her band, the Arrow Dynam­ics Band, and pre­vi­ous­ly with Joy Har­jo and Poet­ic Jus­tice. In addi­tion to serv­ing as a three-term U.S. Poet Lau­re­ate, Har­jo is a chan­cel­lor of the Acad­e­my of Amer­i­can Poets and is a found­ing board mem­ber and Chair of the Native Arts and Cul­tures Foun­da­tion. She has recently been induct­ed into the Amer­i­can Acad­e­my of Arts and Let­ters, the Amer­i­can Philo­soph­i­cal Soci­ety, the Nation­al Native Amer­i­can Hall of Fame, and the Nation­al Woman’s Hall of Fame. She lives in Tul­sa, Okla­homa where she is the inau­gur­al Artist-in-Res­i­dence of the Bob Dylan Center. Learn more at joyharjo.comThomas Hübl is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator whose lifelong work integrates the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since 2004, he has taught and facilitated programs with more than 100,000 people worldwide, including online courses which he began offering in 2008. The origin of his work and more than two decades of study and practice on healing collective trauma is detailed in his book Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds.Learn more at thomashuebl.com

Thomas is joined by Mallika Dutt, a longtime advocate for equity and well-being for people and the planet, and the founder of the non-profit organizations INTER-CONNECTED, Breakthrough, and Sakhi. They discuss the pivotal moments in Mallika’s life that brought the concepts of sacredness, interdependence, and interconnectedness into her activism.Mallika shares her commitment to the collective liberation of all beings on this planet, and how anchoring ourselves to that commitment can move us out of old paradigms and enable us to create new, restorative patterns in our relationships and in the larger world.She and Thomas explore Mallika’s personal path to understanding our fundamental oneness, and methods we can all use to find greater self-acceptance, mediate conflict, address harm, and heal trauma in a restorative and grounded way.Key Points: 00:00 Introduction 05:47 Putting the sacred in activism 13:46 Breaking the triangle of disempowerment 19:43 Collective liberation and how to get there 22:01 Interconnectedness as an awareness of our role in the world 26:18 Navigating conflict with presencing 29:49 The ability to hold complexity in safe spaces 33:05 The power of rituals 40:07 Daily practices for interconnectednessSign up for updates by visiting our website: 👉 pointofrelationpodcast.com✨ Order Thomas Hübl’s book, “Attuned: Practicing Interdependence to Heal Our Trauma–And Our World” and get free gifts when you follow the steps in the link below: 👉 attunedbook.com

Thomas Hübl further expands on Attunement– a relational mindfulness practice that allows our nervous systems to feel one another and transmit many layers of information. He explains that each of us contains a rich inner world that we must get to know in order to attune with others. When we create inner calm, we also create a safe space where we can be fully present with people in their authentic entirety. These attuned environments can lead to entire ecosystems of Attunement where deep emotional connections are fostered over time.Thomas also explores how Attunement grants us greater social agency, or the ability to effectively transmit our inner gifts to the outer world. This quality is essential to activism and change-making as it deepens our care for the world and enables us to take action.Key Points: 00:00 Introduction 03:21 What is attunement? 06:38 Creating safety and social impact 08:35 Creating ecosystems of attunement 10:24 Precision is love 12:31 Enriching life and cultivating presence 14:45 Attunement breeds citizens with a purpose 16:54 Appreciating quietness to encourage growth 18:10 Balancing one’s needs with the world's needsSign up for updates by visiting our website: 👉 pointofrelationpodcast.com✨ Order Thomas Hübl’s book, “Attuned: Practicing Interdependence to Heal Our Trauma–And Our World” and get free gifts when you follow the steps in the link below: 👉 attunedbook.com✨ Sign up for Thomas' new self-paced online course: The Art of Attunement 👉 artofattunementcourse.comThomas Hübl is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator whose lifelong work integrates the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since 2004, he has taught and facilitated programs with more than 100,000 people worldwide, including online courses which he began offering in 2008. The origin of his work and more than two decades of study and practice on healing collective trauma is detailed in his book Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds.Connect with Thomas here.Website: https://thomashuebl.com/Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/ThomasHueblYouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashuebl

According to filmmaker and founder of the Identity Development Institute, Stephen Gyllenhaal, “The best instrument in the world is another human being.” In this episode, he and Thomas discuss the importance of resonance to trauma healing. Similar to attunement, resonance involves communication between nervous systems wherein our bodies transmit our pain to others within a safe and open environment.This is also the basis for the Intention Method (IoPT) sessions that changed Stephen’s life and inspired him to start training others in this unique methodology. He explains that early traumas make positive change and evolution difficult, and how being present in connection with others has allowed him to experience profound healing. He and Thomas also discuss how the art of cinema is a form of resonance, and the themes of galactic resonance that are explored in his upcoming documentary, The Universe Sings.Key Points: 00:45 Movies as an expression of trauma 06:54 Trauma travels generations 11:24 Healing requires digging at the core 18:45 The human being as an attuned resonator 24:52 Resonance is presence 28:36 Film and TV representations of trauma 37:18 How media creates spaces for conversation 41:46 The way to trauma healing  Stephen Gyllenhaal is a film director, poet, and Founding Director of the Identity Development Institute, which aims to grow a community of practitioners, researchers, and educators that integrate trauma in facilitating healthy identities. He is well-known for directing movies, such as “Film Spies” and “Waterland”, and several episodes of hit TV shows, “Numb3rs”, “The Mentalist” and “Twin Peaks.”Sign up for updates by visiting our website: 👉 pointofrelationpodcast.com✨ Order Thomas Hübl’s book, “Attuned: Practicing Interdependence to Heal Our Trauma–And Our World” and get free gifts when you follow the steps in the link below: 👉 attunedbook.com/

Thomas is joined by Peabody Award-winning broadcaster, New York Times bestselling author, and the host of On Being, Krista Tippett. They discuss the virtues of hospitality, humility, and creativity in spirituality, and in creating spaces where deep subjects and emotions can safely emerge. Krista explains how her upbringing and work as a journalist have shown her the need for human civilization to outgrow our binary ways of thinking and have the courage to hold contradictions and complexities.She and Thomas explore how humanity can mature and spiritually evolve, starting from within ourselves and our bodies, and expanding into an understanding of the shared traumas of our past. They discuss the continuing legacy of racial trauma that began with slavery, and how the progress of civil rights is being impeded by our collective unwillingness to fundamentally change our way of life. Krista maintains, despite the horrors of history, that “hope is not wishful thinking,” but a necessary trait of those who inspire us to transform for the better.Key Points: 00:00 Introduction 02:16 The power of language in trauma healing 06:20 Creating spaces conducive to safety 14:44 How healing trauma creates presence 21:10 Finding tools to integrate stored trauma 26:29 Lessons from Germany and Holocaust Survivors 36:42 An aspirational sign of societal maturity 44:08 Solidarity through action 48:49 The need for a spiritual anchor for healingKrista Tippett is a Peabody Award-winning broadcaster, a National Humanities Medalist, and a New York Times bestselling author. She attended Brown University and became a journalist and diplomat in Cold War Berlin. After studying theology at Yale Divinity School in the early 1990s, she saw a black hole where intelligent public conversation about the religious, spiritual, and moral aspects of human life might be. She launched Speaking of Faith — later On Being — as a weekly national public radio show in 2003. What launched on two radio stations grew to over 400 across the U.S. and has received the highest honors in broadcasting, the Internet, and podcasting. 💬 Get in touch with Krista Tippett.Website: https://onbeing.org/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/onbeing/Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/kristatippett✨ Order Thomas Hübl’s book, “Attuned: Practicing Interdependence to Heal Our Trauma–And Our World” and get free gifts when you follow the steps in the link below:👉 https://www.attunedbook.com/Sign up for updates by visiting our website:👉 pointofrelationpodcast.comThomas Hübl is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator whose lifelong work integrates the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since 2004, he has taught and facilitated programs with more than 100,000 people worldwide, including online courses which he began offering in 2008. The origin of his work and more than two decades of study and practice on healing collective trauma is detailed in his book Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds.Connect with Thomas here.Website: https://thomashuebl.com/Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/ThomasHueblYouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashueblGet to know The Pocket Project:👉 https://pocketproject.org/

Thomas is joined by Rhonda V. Magee, a leading mindfulness teacher, practice innovator, author, and Professor of Law at the University of San Francisco.They discuss how mindfulness has evolved from its roots in traditional Buddhism to an increasingly popular modern practice. Rhonda stresses the need for us to look at the deeper traditional teachings of mindfulness in their original contexts so that their depth and core essence aren’t lost. She and Thomas also explore what Rhonda calls “Soulful Mindfulness,” which delves into musical and cultural practices originating in the Black American experience that has helped Black people survive from the era of slavery into the racism and oppression of the modern era. Rhonda explains how our attachment to individuality can lead to oppression, but our capacity for loving acceptance and compassion can lead to social transformation.Key Points: 00:00 Introduction 00:52 Rhonda's history with mindfulness 06:23 Positive benefits of mindfulness practice 11:01 Soulful mindfulness 20:26 The roots of soul in Black American history 29:20 How trauma affects healthy attachment 34:26 The ethics of trauma healing 40:26 What's needed in healing spaces 48:31 Being a lifelong learner and staying curious 54:37 The power of our oceansRhonda V. Magee is an internationally-recognized teacher, guide, and mentor, focused on integrating mindfulness into higher education, law, and social change work. A prolific author, she draws on law and legal history to weave storytelling, poetry, analysis, and practices into inspiration for changing how we think, act, and live better together in a rapidly changing world.For 20+ years, Professor Magee has studied mindfulness, its underlying origins in Buddhism, and its potential benefits and applications in the world. She has been exploring the integration of mindfulness into teaching and learning, and social engagement, including in support of personal and collective healing, activism, and leadership. She has written extensively on how mindfulness and other contemplative practices support engagement in the world in the face of the multiple interlocking challenges of our times, including climate distress, migration, political polarization, migration, war, and their effects on us all.Website: https://www.rhondavmagee.com/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rhondavmagee/YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCts2krneWSKW5gTefCNgUSwFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/RhondaVMagee/✨ Order Thomas Hübl’s book, “Attuned: Practicing Interdependence to Heal Our Trauma–And Our World” and get free gifts when you follow the steps in the link below:👉 https://www.attunedbook.com/Sign up for updates by visiting our website:👉 pointofrelationpodcast.comThomas Hübl is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator whose lifelong work integrates the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since 2004, he has taught and facilitated programs with more than 100,000 people worldwide, including online courses which he began offering in 2008. The origin of his work and more than two decades of study and practice on healing collective trauma is detailed in his book Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds.Connect with Thomas here.Website: https://thomashuebl.com/Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/ThomasHueblYouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashueblGet to know The Pocket Project:👉 https://pocketproject.org/

Thomas Hübl explores the concepts of Inner and Outer Coherence and the role they play in relationships and communication. He describes inner coherence as the capacity to understand our own inner experience, resonate with others, and feel whole. It’s a function of our nervous system that combines external sensory information with our internal thoughts and emotions. He explains that inner coherence leads to outer coherence- it creates a space for us to be present, empathetic, and share openly with others. But when we become triggered or defensive, the bridges between us collapse, making it hard to feel other people, and leaving us stuck re-enacting or projecting our wounds from the past. According to Thomas, by understanding and regulating our inner worlds, we can work together to manifest a better future.Key Points: 00:24 Inner Coherence creates Outer Coherence 02:24 Relational intelligence and transparent communication 04:47 The importance of developing inner awareness 07:46 Coherence transforms our presencing ability 09:25 How trauma hinders resonance and what to do about it 12:27 Why coherence is needed for social impact 14:32 Attunement breeds resilience and growth✨ Order Thomas Hübl’s book, “Attuned: Practicing Interdependence to Heal Our Trauma–And Our World” and get free gifts when you follow the steps in the link below:👉 https://www.attunedbook.com/ Sign up for updates by visiting our website:👉 pointofrelationpodcast.com Thomas Hübl is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator whose lifelong work integrates the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since 2004, he has taught and facilitated programs with more than 100,000 people worldwide, including online courses which he began offering in 2008. The origin of his work and more than two decades of study and practice on healing collective trauma is detailed in his book Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. Connect with Thomas here.Website: https://thomashuebl.com/Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/ThomasHueblYouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashuebl 

Thomas shares practices, theories, and more from his new book "Attuned: Practicing Interdependence to Heal Our Trauma―and Our World". Order now at attunedbook.com to receive a guided meditation, book excerpt, and help alert booksellers to the strong interest in the book to ensure that it's stocked widely and accessible for people to find.Amy Elizabeth Fox of Mobius Executive Leadership was kind enough to conduct this interview with Thomas.According to Thomas, “Resonance is the universal language of life,” and the resonance that occurs between our nervous systems is what allows us to connect with each others’ experiences. He and Amy explore attunement practices that we can use in our daily lives in order to practice transparent communication and create safe environments where undigested trauma can begin to be processed and healed.They discuss the systemic and intergenerational nature of trauma, and how the deep benefits of practicing relational attunement ripple out into the larger world and are felt by future generations.Key Points:00:00 Introduction00:52 Thomas’ inspiration for the book03:23 Transparent communication and attunement07:20 How trauma interrupts attunement11:07 Relating as a remedy for trauma14:38 The process of digesting trauma20:07 How the lack of attunement affects the world24:56 What is relational mysticism?29:35 Individual, ancestral, and collective outlook in trauma healing37:14 Practical tips for attunement Sign up for updates by visiting our website:👉 pointofrelationpodcast.comThomas Hübl is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator whose lifelong work integrates the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since 2004, he has taught and facilitated programs with more than 100,000 people worldwide, including online courses which he began offering in 2008. The origin of his work and more than two decades of study and practice on healing collective trauma is detailed in his book Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds.Connect with Thomas here.Website: https://thomashuebl.com/Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/ThomasHueblYouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashuebl

Thomas is joined by writer, embodiment facilitator, political organizer, therapist, and the founder and director of The Embodiment Institute, Prentis Hemphill. They discuss the evolution of embodiment and somatics, and how our bodies are the sites at which transformation occurs in trauma work. Prentis discusses their work in social and political movements to address individual and collective trauma, and to tap into the resilience and creativity needed to envision solutions to the catastrophes and crises that we face. They explore the need to acknowledge our interconnectedness in healing spaces, and the potential of somatics and embodiment to help us understand ourselves, integrate the traumatic events we’ve experienced, and re-awaken parts of ourselves that may have gone dormant.Key Points: 00:00 Introduction 01:41 What shaped Prentis' career 07:14 Internalizing vs Awake 12:11 Staying connected to the source 13:47 How generational pain surfaces in present relationships 19:55 Our bodies remember traumatic stories 26:25 Disrupting the wellness industry 29:50 The distortion of trauma 32:16 Being open to change and healing 39:00 The need for collective rituals 45:05 Fostering intimacy for deeper healing 49:58 Prentis’ hope for the worldPrentis Hemphill (They/Them) is unearthing the connections between healing, community accountability, and our most inspired visions for social transformation. They are a therapist, somatics teacher and facilitator, political organizer, writer, and the founder of The Embodiment Institute. For over 10 years, they have been working with individuals and organizations during their most challenging moments of change; navigating leadership transitions, conflict, and realigning practice with values. They hold an M.A. in Clinical Psychology and have worked in low-cost mental health clinics offering therapeutic services to marginalized people. In 2016, they were awarded the Buddhist Peace Fellowship Soma Award for community work inspired by Buddhist thought. Their work has been featured in the New York Times, Huffington Post, and Shondaland. They are a contributor to The Politics of Trauma by Staci K. Haines, as well as You are Your Best Thing edited by Brené Brown and Tarana Burke, and Holding Change by Adrienne Maree Brown.Links:Website: https://prentishemphill.com/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/prentishemphill/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/prentishemphill/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100076227080719Listen and know more about Prentis Hemphill’s podcast, Finding Our Way. 👉 https://www.findingourwaypodcast.com/Sign up for updates by visiting our website:👉 pointofrelationpodcast.comThomas Hübl is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator whose lifelong work integrates the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since 2004, he has taught and facilitated programs with more than 100,000 people worldwide, including online courses which he began offering in 2008. The origin of his work and more than two decades of study and practice on healing collective trauma is detailed in his book Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural WoundsConnect with Thomas here.Website: https://thomashuebl.com/Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/Instagram/Twitter: @thomashueblYouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashueblGet to know The Pocket Project:👉 https://pocketproject.org/

Thomas is joined by author, leadership expert, and the founder of Leadership Circle, Bob Anderson. They discuss what it takes to be an effective leader in our current era of change and upheaval. Through research and extensive experience, Bob has concluded that the most salient characteristic of an effective leader is their emphasis on relationship, and that this is a universal theme across all cultures. He explains how an effective leader can develop a group whose collective intelligence is greater than any one individual’s intelligence, and that this is where the emergent future lies. Thomas and Bob also explore how to be open to new insights and inspirations in order to take your work to an innovative edge, and the “core tension” between purpose and safety.Key Points: 02:29 What makes a successful leader? 08:17 How to create collective leadership 11:04 The emerging future of leadership 15:22 Breaking the reactive pattern 19:37 Self-authorship makes better leaders 33:54 Are you living your true purpose? 37:09 Treading the edge of irrelevance 40:09 Being open to inspirationBob Anderson is the Founder, Chairman, and Chief Development Officer of the Leadership Circle. He dedicated his career to exploring the intersections between leadership and personal mastery, and between competence and consciousness. He has completed his second co-authored book "Scaling Leadership: Building Organizational Capability and Capacity to Create Outcomes that Matter Most." "Scaling Leadership" is an essential guide that offers senior leaders the information needed to develop conscious leadership at scale with their organization. Links:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/robert-j-anderson/Leadership Circle Website: https://leadershipcircle.com/YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@tlcasiapacificSign up for updates by visiting our website:👉 pointofrelationpodcast.comThomas Hübl is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator whose lifelong work integrates the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since 2004, he has taught and facilitated programs with more than 100,000 people worldwide, including online courses which he began offering in 2008. The origin of his work and more than two decades of study and practice on healing collective trauma is detailed in his book Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural WoundsConnect with Thomas here.Website: https://thomashuebl.com/Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/Instagram/Twitter: @thomashueblYouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashuebl

Thomas Hübl explores how tension is a physical manifestation of undigested trauma, and how we can begin to release tension by becoming more in tune with our emotions. Trauma responses can cause us to feel angry, overwhelmed, numb, and disconnected from the present moment. Thomas explains the importance of recognizing these signs of dysregulation without judgment. Moments of stress can guide us toward the emotions that we need to address and digest, serving as opportunities for us to better understand our inner worlds. He also provides tools to help regulate the nervous system and find presence during difficult moments and walks us through the 3-Sync Meditation technique.Key Points: 00:17 Stress can be reactive or numbing 02:26 Physical tension is undigested trauma 04:44 Using the breath to self-regulate 06:05 Learning to be in the present moment 08:29 Trauma responses serve a purpose 12:12 Self-awareness reduces stress 13:12 The 3-Sync Meditation technique 16:21 Mindfulness encourages fluidity and easeSign up for updates by visiting our website:👉 pointofrelationpodcast.comThomas Hübl is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator whose lifelong work integrates the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since 2004, he has taught and facilitated programs with more than 100,000 people worldwide, including online courses which he began offering in 2008. The origin of his work and more than two decades of study and practice on healing collective trauma is detailed in his book Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural WoundsConnect with Thomas here:Website: https://thomashuebl.com/Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/Twitter: https://twitter.com/ThomasHuebl YouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashueblGet to know The Pocket Project:👉 https://pocketproject.org/

Dr. Ruby Gibson; author, cultural healer and advocate, and the developer of Somatic Archaeology© joins Thomas for a second conversation. They dive deep into Ruby’s life’s work offering healing to Native Americans. They discuss methods of healing that address the historical and ongoing traumatization of Native American communities, and how she weaves traditional spiritual protocols into newer methodologies.Ruby explains that Indigenous people view life as a wheel in which everything is interconnected and that individual healing is inextricably linked to communal healing. She stresses the importance of healing in groups in order to foster a sense of belonging, something that Native people struggle with after enduring genocide and discrimination.She and Thomas explore the role that Mother Earth plays in the healing process, and how praying over scarred and embattled places can be spiritually restorative. Key Points:05:36 Maturing into the awakening journey12:32 Navigating healing during ongoing trauma17:33 Wellness is abundant and readily available24:25 One-on-one vs. collective healing30:47 A healthy way of dealing with shame34:18 How to do an inner check-in41:10 Dr. Gibson’s recovery center plans47:03 Online resources to stay connectedFor 35+ years, Dr. Ruby Gibson has been dedicated to the craft and science of Historical Trauma reconciliation, cultural healing, and wellness among Native and Indigenous Peoples all around Turtle Island, and abroad in Europe and Australia. She developed two intergenerational trauma recovery models – Somatic Archaeology© and Generational Brainspotting™. Dr. Gibson is the author of, My Body, My Earth, The Practice of Somatic Archaeology. As the Executive Director of Freedom Lodge non-profit, Dr. Gibson’s renowned training, the Historical Trauma Master Class©, has assisted hundreds of Indigenous people to recovery from the generational suffering of ethnocide. Get in touch with Dr. Ruby Gibson here.Website: https://rubygibson.com/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/freedomlodge7/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/freedomlodgeinc/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/freedom-lodge-41b44a103/YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@freedomlodge3291 Sign up for updates by visiting our website:👉 pointofrelationpodcast.comThomas Hübl is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator whose lifelong work integrates the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since 2004, he has taught and facilitated programs with more than 100,000 people worldwide, including online courses which he began offering in 2008. The origin of his work and more than two decades of study and practice on healing collective trauma is detailed in his book Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural WoundsConnect with Thomas here.Website: https://thomashuebl.com/Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/Instagram/Twitter: @thomashueblYouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashuebl

Thomas interviews world-renowned trauma expert and the author of “The Body Keeps the Score,” Dr. Bessel van der Kolk. They discuss different approaches to healing trauma on individual and societal levels. Dr. Van der Kolk emphasizes the need for physical and relational safety in order to process trauma, and the difficulty of healing in environments that tend towards disembodiment.He explains that trauma causes us to become numb, withdrawn, and full of shame, and that we experience these sensations physically.But through collective and creative experiences, practicing self-compassion, and deepening our relationship with our physical bodies and the sensations we feel, we can reconnect to ourselves, re-discover our spirituality, and define our own identities.Key Points:02:55 The importance of trauma awareness06:21 Relational safety forms healthy societies10:04 An interesting insight into generational trauma15:10 How safety affects academic performance18:15 Reigniting physical sensations for healing23:32 What goes on in healing workshops29:07 The cycle of trauma and how to break it38:04 Experiencing healing in the collective40:24 Being connected makes us Earth-conscious42:55 MDMA-assisted trauma work47:57 Spirituality as a healing resource50:20 Do this daily grounding practiceBessel van der Kolk, MD is a psychiatrist, author, researcher, and educator based in Boston, United States. Since the 1970s, his research has been in the area of post-traumatic stress. He is the author of The New York Times best-seller, The Body Keeps the Score. Van der Kolk formerly served as president of the International Society for Traumatic Stress Studies and is a former co-director of the National Child Traumatic Stress Network. He is a professor of psychiatry at Boston University School of Medicine and president of the Trauma Research Foundation in Brookline, Massachusetts.Website: https://www.besselvanderkolk.com/Facebook: https://web.facebook.com/thebodykeepsthescore?_rdc=1&_rdrLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/besselvanderkolk/Instagram: @thebodykeepsthescoreSign up for updates by visiting our website:👉 pointofrelationpodcast.comThomas Hübl is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator whose lifelong work integrates the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since 2004, he has taught and facilitated programs with more than 100,000 people worldwide, including online courses which he began offering in 2008. The origin of his work and more than two decades of study and practice on healing collective trauma is detailed in his book Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural WoundsConnect with Thomas here.Website: https://thomashuebl.com/Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/Instagram/Twitter: @thomashueblYouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashuebl

Thomas interviews the CEO of Mobius Executive Leadership, Amy Elizabeth Fox. They discuss the vital importance of integrating the profound wisdom found in trauma healing into the practice of leadership development. Amy describes the enormous influence that traumatic symptoms have on the way that companies operate, and how their cultures are formed. In her work with organizations in both the private and public sectors, she encourages workers and leaders to view internal problems as opportunities for transformation.By understanding and being open about their own lives and experiences, Mobius practitioners create a safe space for employees to explore their authentic selves, and relate to their coworkers with empathy and vulnerability. Amy explains that being in relation in this way provides the essential emotional intelligence tools needed to operate as high-performing teams.Key Points:04:24 Relationality is the root of repair 07:12 Why companies need deep healing work 10:14 How can leaders be agents of transformation? 13:26 Speak to your employees’ highest possibility 15:52 Transformation starts with the self 18:13 Friction as opportunities for growth 22:06 Are you on your self-authorship journey?---------------Amy Elizabeth Fox is a senior leadership strategist with experience consulting to senior leadership on issues related to human capital, organizational health, and leadership development. She is the Chief Executive Officer of Mobius Executive Leadership, a premier leadership development firm with offices in Boston and Switzerland. Over the past decade and a half, she has spoken at numerous national industry gatherings and led workshops for corporate executives across the country. Amy is also a psychotherapist and an executive coach. Connect with Amy:Website: https://www.mobiusleadership.com/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/amy.e.fox.94/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/amyelizabethfox/Twitter: @Amy_Mobius Connect with Mobius:Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/MobiusUSInstagram: @mobiusexecutiveleadershipTwitter: @MobiusExecLead---------------Thomas Hübl is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator whose lifelong work integrates the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since 2004, he has taught and facilitated programs with more than 100,000 people worldwide, including online courses which he began offering in 2008. The origin of his work and more than two decades of study and practice on healing collective trauma is detailed in his book Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural WoundsConnect with Thomas here:Website: https://thomashuebl.com/Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/Instagram and Twitter: @thomashueblYouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashueblSign up for updates by visiting our website:👉 pointofrelationpodcast.comGet to know The Pocket Project:👉 https://pocketproject.org/

Thomas is joined by author, cultural healer and advocate, and the developer of Somatic Archaeology© Dr. Ruby Gibson. They dive deep into her work on ancestral healing, which she refers to as ‘historical trauma recovery.’ Ruby leads an organization called The Freedom Lodge whose mission is to provide education and healing for Native American communities.Combining the sacred medicine of the Lakota traditions with modern approaches to psychology, she has developed integrated processes to learn and heal from both past and ongoing trauma. She and Thomas discuss the dire need for better resources for Natives who’ve suffered under oppressive systems, and the healing power of building a spiritual connection to our earth, our histories, our communities, and ourselves.Key Points:01:05 What is historical trauma recovery?05:44 The drive to heal humanity10:40 An eye-opening, spiritual dream16:12 Being ready is a feeling21:50 The five steps to somatic archeology30:36 Applying somatic archeology in the community34:54 Unity promotes survival38:11 Spirituality encourages societal healing42:48 Transformation in ongoing trauma47:46 Cultivating a healthy dynamic for change52:00 The need for larger-scale rituals for trauma recovery---------------Dr. Ruby Gibson has spent the past 40 years dedicated to the craft and science of Historical Trauma reconciliation, cultural healing, and generational well-being among Native and Indigenous Peoples. Dr. Gibson founded Freedom Lodge, a 501(c)3 nonprofit organization, in Rapid City, SD to serve our relatives and communities. Dr. Gibson developed the transgenerational trauma recovery model Somatic Archaeology©. and is the author of My Body, My Earth, The Practice of Somatic Archaeology, and My Body, My Breath, A Tool for Transformation, which are available in English, Romanian, and Spanish. Dr. Gibson developed and teaches a Historical Trauma Master Class, and builds leadership skills in Native Wellness amongst the graduates. She also teaches a Somatic Archaeology© Master Class for non—Native students. Using our Body and Mother Earth as benevolent sources of biological, emotional, and ancestral memory, Dr. Ruby’s techniques are being evaluated and researched among her students with amazing effectiveness. Get in touch with Dr. Ruby Gibson here:Website: https://rubygibson.com/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/freedomlodge7/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/freedomlodgeinc/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/freedom-lodge-41b44a103/YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@freedomlodge3291---------------Thomas Hübl is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator whose lifelong work integrates the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since 2004, he has taught and facilitated programs with more than 100,000 people worldwide, including online courses which he began offering in 2008. The origin of his work and more than two decades of study and practice on healing collective trauma is detailed in his book Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural WoundsConnect with Thomas here:Website: https://thomashuebl.com/Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/Instagram/Twitter: @thomashueblYouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashueblSign up for updates by visiting our website:👉 pointofrelationpodcast.comGet to know The Pocket Project:👉 https://pocketproject.org/

Thomas Hübl explores how trauma changes our experience of time, and how integration and acceptance can help us create a better future. When traumatic events occur in the present moment, we become overwhelmed, and our experience of "presence" is split, pushing the trauma into the subconscious realm. He explains that our compartmentalized trauma is like a data package that becomes stuck in the past, interrupting the flow of time like a rock in a river. As we go through life, we experience tension, numbness, and absence-- repetitive difficulties influenced by the trauma embedded in our past. Thomas provides insight into how we can embrace and integrate our pain and our defense mechanisms, and how that is a more healing and effective way to create change than trying to get rid of them.Key Points:01:05 The notion of presence and integrated history 05:13 How trauma is compartmentalized 08:52 Fragmented data becomes repetitive patterns 11:38 Projecting the future 18:42 Onboard the past for a better future 21:11 Cultivate a fertile land for inner change----------------Thomas Hübl is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator whose lifelong work integrates the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since 2004, he has taught and facilitated programs with more than 100,000 people worldwide, including online courses which he began offering in 2008. The origin of his work and more than two decades of study and practice on healing collective trauma is detailed in his book Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural WoundsConnect with Thomas here:Website: https://thomashuebl.com/Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/Instagram/Twitter: @thomashueblYouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashueblSign up for updates by visiting our website:👉 pointofrelationpodcast.com 

Thomas is joined by restorative justice facilitator and public speaker sujatha baliga. They discuss Restorative Justice - a term coined by Howard Zehr that represents a paradigm shift in the way we think about harm and wrongdoing. It calls us to eschew the extreme and ineffective punitiveness of the criminal justice system in favor of community-based processes that align with our interdependent nature. Sujatha explains how her methods were inspired by three groups - the Mennonites, the Navajo tribe, and the Buddhist Nalanda tradition. She reveals that her work is not only more effective in addressing the root causes of crime, and reducing repeated incidents of harm, but is also planting seeds for a radically more just future.Key Points:01:48 Sujatha’s journey to her advocacy08:18 Restorative justice vs. the current justice system11:40 What it means to be well-resourced16:52 Restorative justice is sustainable19:57 The factors to facilitate a restorative process25:56 The responsibility of the oppressed34:12 Transformation starts within us37:40 How can communities contribute?44:25 Addressing collective issues with restorative justice---------------sujatha baliga’s work is characterized by an equal dedication to people who’ve experienced and caused harm and violence. A former victim advocate and public defender, sujatha is a frequent guest lecturer at universities and conferences about her decades of restorative justice work. She also speaks publicly and inside prisons about her own experiences as a survivor of child sexual abuse and her path to forgiveness. Her personal and research interests include the forgiveness of seemingly unforgivable acts, survivor-led movements, restorative justice’s potential impact on racial disparities in our legal systems, and Buddhist approaches to conflict transformation. She’s a member of the Gyuto Foundation in Richmond, CA, where she leads meditation on Monday nights. She was named a 2019 MacArthur Fellow.Website: https://www.sujathabaliga.com/Twitter & Instagram: @sujathabaligaLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sujatha-baliga-9813184/----------------Thomas Hübl is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator whose lifelong work integrates the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since 2004, he has taught and facilitated programs with more than 100,000 people worldwide, including online courses which he began offering in 2008. The origin of his work and more than two decades of study and practice on healing collective trauma is detailed in his book Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural WoundsConnect with Thomas:Website: https://thomashuebl.com/Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/Instagram/Twitter: @thomashueblYouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashueblSign up for updates by visiting our website:👉 pointofrelationpodcast.com

Please note that this episode was recorded during the first months of the war in Ukraine, and William and Thomas' commentary is relevant to that time. Since then, circumstances may have changed.Humiliation is reflected in most major historical events, especially in wars.Throughout the centuries, humans continue to be stuck in the same pattern of humiliation. And it has become even more significant in the present.With COVID-19 bringing a sense of interconnectedness and the whole world tuning in to the Russian-Ukrainian conflict, author and anthropologist William Ury dissects the root cause of this cycle. He explains that empathy is our most powerful tool in negotiation, as it enables us to understand our "opponents" and communicate with them effectively.*Please note that this episode was recorded during the first months of the war in Ukraine, and William and Thomas' commentary is relevant to that time. Since then, circumstances may have changed.*Key points include:✔️ How doing our inner work helps us to act more effectively toward the betterment of the collective ✔️ Using strategic empathy to better understand an “opponent” and find a constructive way out of conflict ✔️ How both COVID-19 and the war in Ukraine galvanized the world and made us aware of our interconnectedness ✔️ Fear and crises tune our collective instrument, and we can use them as an opportunity for positive transformation ✔️ Being a “possible-ist” - someone who can see both negative and positive possibilities and potentials, and can act accordingly to move situations in a positive direction---------------William Ury is one of the world’s leading experts on negotiation and mediation. As the co-founder of the Program on Negotiation, he is a driving force behind many new negotiation theories and practices. Ury is the co-author with Roger Fisher and Bruce Patton of Getting to Yes, a 15-million-copy bestseller translated into more than 35 languages, and the author of several other books including the award-winning Getting to Yes with Yourself.Over the last four decades, Ury has served as a negotiation advisor and mediator in conflicts ranging from the Cold War to ethnic and civil wars in the Middle East, Chechnya, Yugoslavia, and most recently in Colombia, where he serves as a senior advisor to President Juan Manuel Santos. In addition to teaching negotiation and mediation to tens of thousands of executives, Ury is the founder of the Abraham Path Initiative, which seeks to bring people together across cultures by opening a long-distance walking route in the Middle East that retraces the footsteps of Abraham and his family. In recognition of his work, he has received the Cloke-Millen Peacemaker Award, the Whitney North Seymour Award from the American Arbitration Association, and the Distinguished Service Medal from the Russian Parliament.---------------Thomas Hübl is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator whose lifelong work integrates the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since 2004, he has taught and facilitated programs with more than 100,000 people worldwide, including online courses which he began offering in 2008. The origin of his work and more than two decades of study and practice on healing collective trauma is detailed in his book Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural WoundsConnect with Thomas here:Website: https://thomashuebl.com/Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/Instagram/Twitter: @thomashueblYouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashueblSign up for updates by visiting our website:👉 pointofrelationpodcast.com

In this episode, Thomas explores the concept of Ancestral Healing - a way of attuning with our ancestors and integrating the information they’ve passed down through our family histories. We inherit wisdom and resilience from our ancestors, as well as trauma and pain. Thomas explains the need to incorporate all of these aspects into ourselves so that we can draw strength from our ancestral data flow when we need it, and learn from their wounds and transgressions in order to release ourselves and our families from patterns that no longer serve us.Key Points:00:24 Decentralizing the focus of hyper-individualism04:52 Our bodies carry ancestral data08:20 Trauma is generationally transmitted11:55 Exploring the difficult parts of the past14:38 Liquefying the past is personal development---------------Thomas Hübl is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator whose lifelong work integrates the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since 2004, he has taught and facilitated programs with more than 100,000 people worldwide, including online courses which he began offering in 2008. The origin of his work and more than two decades of study and practice on healing collective trauma is detailed in his book Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural WoundsConnect with Thomas here:Website: https://thomashuebl.com/Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/Instagram/Twitter: @thomashueblYouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashueblSign up for updates by visiting our website:👉 pointofrelationpodcast.com

Thomas and celebrated international speaker, post-humanist thinker, and author Bayo Akomolafe delve into the pitfalls of modernity and modern psychology, and the need for new ways of navigating hidden and invisible thresholds. Bayo discusses his work tracing stories, folklore, and archetypes and how they invite us to do something akin to activism - a sensorial politics that he refers to as “post-activism.” They discuss the need for fresh modes of responding to crises that can invite us to develop new intelligences.Key Points:01:00 Parenting & disruptions of time and space10:36 New Institute Fellowship15:00 Bayo’s upcoming book18:46 What is post-activism?24:52 The response to the crisis is part of the crisis31:14 Psychology is the policeman of capitalism39:17 A new perspective on politics47:33 Losing our way in order to create change----------------Bayo Akomolafe (Ph.D.), rooted with the Yoruba people in a more-than-human world, is the father to Alethea and Kyah, the grateful life-partner to Ije, son and brother. A widely celebrated international speaker, posthumanist thinker, poet, teacher, public intellectual, essayist, and author of two books, These Wilds Beyond our Fences: Letters to My Daughter on Humanity’s Search for Home (North Atlantic Books) and We Will Tell our Own Story: The Lions of Africa Speak. Bayo Akomolafe is the Founder of The Emergence Network and host of the online post-activist course, ‘We Will Dance with Mountains’. He currently lectures at Pacifica Graduate Institute, California, and the University of Vermont, Burlington, Vermont. He sits on the Board of many organizations including Science and Non-Duality (US) and Local Futures (Australia). In July 2022, Dr. Akomolafe was appointed the inaugural Global Senior Fellow of the University of California’s (Berkeley) Othering and Belonging Institute. He has also been appointed Senior Fellow for The New Institute in Hamburg, Germany.Website: bayoakomolafe.net----------------Thomas Hübl is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator whose lifelong work integrates the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since 2004, he has taught and facilitated programs with more than 100,000 people worldwide, including online courses which he began offering in 2008. The origin of his work and more than two decades of study and practice on healing collective trauma is detailed in his book Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural WoundsConnect with Thomas here:Website: https://thomashuebl.com/Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/Instagram/Twitter: @thomashueblYouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashueblSign up for updates by visiting our website:👉 pointofrelationpodcast.com 

Thomas talks with award-winning documentary filmmaker Deeyah Khan about her experience of interviewing extremists. Rather than dismissing them as unreachable fanatics, Deeyah has decided to engage them directly as human beings, with respect for our common humanity. She and Thomas reflect on how to remain hopeful and empathetic amidst the social divisiveness of our time.Multi-award-winning filmmaker Deeyah Khan has directed documentaries such as “Banaz: A Love Story (2012)” and “White Right: Meeting The Enemy (2017)”, which have shed light on the heartbreaking reality of discrimination and violence while telling people’s compelling stories through a loving lens.Dehumanizing others causes us to lose our humanity. Do you have the courage to open your mind and remain hopeful for change?Key Points:2:57 Deeyah’s purpose in filmmaking12:56 Why the focus on dark, brutal topics?17:57 When the unexpected becomes a lifesaver21:51 Authenticity is healing24:59 Dehumanizing others means dehumanizing yourself29:20 On making “White Right”38:51 Change is always possible43:43 Extremism lures the broken49:50 Learn to sit with the darkness52:55 Love conquers all59:46 One simple step creates the biggest impact1:03:09 Dealing with a polarized world---------------Deeyah Khan is a Norwegian multi-awarded documentary film director and human rights activist. Her debut film, Banaz: A Love Story (2012) won an Emmy and a Peabody. She is the founder and CEO of Fuuse, a leading documentary film and digital media company for broadcasters and live events. She is also the founder and editor-in-chief of Sister-Hood Magazine, spotlighting the diverse voices of women of Muslim heritage. She became the UNESCO Goodwill Ambassador for Artistic Freedom and Creativity in 2016.Website: deeyah.comTwitter: @Deeyah_Khan Instagram: @deeyahkhanFacebook: facebook.com/Deeyah.deeyah---------------Thomas Hübl is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator whose lifelong work integrates the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since 2004, he has taught and facilitated programs with more than 100,000 people worldwide, including online courses which he began offering in 2008. The origin of his work and more than two decades of study and practice on healing collective trauma is detailed in his book Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural WoundsConnect with Thomas here:Website: https://thomashuebl.com/Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/Instagram/Twitter: @thomashueblYouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashueblSign up for updates by visiting our website:👉 pointofrelationpodcast.com 

Thomas Hübl explores the concept of Transparent Communication - a practice that creates an open and grounded relational space where constructive and creative communication can occur. He explains that this form of communication combines the interconnected data streams of cognitive, emotional, and physical information that are always present in any conversation. When we become attuned to these transmissions from others' nervous systems, and are consciously creating coherent transmissions from our own, we can establish a deep connection that's rich in intimacy and free from reactivity.Key Points:✔️ Relating is an intimate process✔️ Trauma fragments effective communication✔️ Transparent communication is contemplative✔️ Refine your response to external factors✔️ Transparent communication trains our self-awareness---------------Thomas Hübl is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator whose lifelong work integrates the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since 2004, he has taught and facilitated programs with more than 100,000 people worldwide, including online courses which he began offering in 2008. The origin of his work and more than two decades of study and practice on healing collective trauma is detailed in his book Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural WoundsConnect with Thomas here:thomashuebl.comYouTubeFacebookInstagramTwitterSign up for updates by visiting our website:👉 pointofrelationpodcast.com

Thomas Hübl is joined by seasoned author and clinician Deb Dana and the founder of the Polyvagal Theory (PVT) Dr. Stephen Porges for a lively discussion about the essence of PVT, the importance of human connection to the mind and body, and their methods of self-regulation for trauma survivors.What You Will Discover: ✔️ The Polyvagal Theory is about human connection.Dr. Stephen Porges goes deep into the Polyvagal Theory and its core essence, describing how human socialization can prevent modern stress-related disorders. He explains how modern society demands that people constantly exist in a threatened state, causing them to lose connection to their bodily cues and reducing their ability to regulate with others. “Social interaction isn’t just psychological behavior; it’s also neurophysiological.”✔️ Stress and trauma cause dissociation.Learning how to safely come back into our bodies after dissociation is a slow process, as shared by Deb Dana. Trauma survivors have acclimated to removing themselves from the present situation because of repeated painful events. Deb Dana teaches her clients to recognize their bodies’ ways of determining threat and safety.✔️ Have a micro-moment of regulation.How do people who have experienced traumatic and dangerous situations throughout their lives return to a state of self-regulation? Deb Dana helps clients navigate through their map of disconnection. The earlier we recognize the 'warning' signs of dysregulation, the less mental and physical energy we'll need in order to return to a more regulated baseline.✔️ Honor your body’s ability to regulate itself.Dr. Stephen Porges points out that our bodies have their own ways of signaling to us that there’s something wrong. It's important to pay attention to our bodies and acknowledge what they're trying to teach us.✔️ Our patterns of protection are shaped throughout our life.Due to trauma and constant exposure to painful situations, we have developed patterns of protection that we immediately employ when we sense even the slightest dangers. Getting stuck in this constant cycle of shielding oneself inhibits one from enjoying life.✔️ Recognize your body’s signs of a warning and a welcome.Dr. Stephen Porges and Deb Dana share ideas about how to remain in a state of regulation and how to differentiate a 'warning' from a 'welcome' sign. People have been programmed to mobilize, complete tasks, and maximize productivity in the modern world - without considering their mental and physiological state. This constant inhibition of bodily cues disconnects us from our physical form.---------------Deb Dana, LCSW is an author, clinician, and consultant specializing in using the lens of polyvagal theory to understand and resolve the impact of trauma and create ways of working that honor the role of the autonomic nervous system. She developed The Rhythm of Regulation Clinical Training Series, and lectures internationally on ways polyvagal theory informs work with trauma survivors. She partners with Sounds True through the audio program, Befriending Your Nervous System: Looking Through the Lens of Polyvagal Theory, and her forthcoming book, titled Anchored: How to Befriend Your Nervous System Using Polyvagal Theory. ---------------Dr. Stephen Porges is a distinguished university scientist at Indiana University, where he is the founding director of the Traumatic Stress Research Consortium. He is a Professor of Psychiatry at the University of North Carolina and Professor Emeritus at both the University of Illinois at Chicago and the University of Maryland. He is the originator of the Polyvagal Theory, a theory that emphasizes the importance of the physiological state in the expression of behavioral, mental, and health problems related to traumatic experiences.---------------Thomas Hübl is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator whose lifelong work integrates the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since 2004, he has taught and facilitated programs with more than 100,000 people worldwide, including online courses which he began offering in 2008. The origin of his work and more than two decades of study and practice on healing collective trauma is detailed in his book Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural WoundsConnect with Thomas here:thomashuebl.comYouTubeFacebookInstagramTwitter Sign up for updates by visiting our website:👉 pointofrelationpodcast.com