Point of Relation with Thomas Huebl

On this episode of Point of Relation, Thomas is joined by author, poet, ordained Zen Buddhist priest, teacher, and artist, Zenju Earthlyn Manuel. They discuss the gateways in Zenju’s life that put her on her spiritual path. Zenju beautifully describes the joyful curiosity of spiritual inquiry, and the power of ritual and ceremony to create sacred spaces where collective pain and trauma can be expressed, witnessed, and healed. She explores the rhythmic quality of ritual and meditative practices, and how they can help us access a deep silence from which creativity and presence naturally emerge. She and Thomas also explore the accessibility of meditation, the benefits of ancestral healing, and the spiritual qualities of social justice work. ✨ Order Thomas Hübl’s new book, “Attuned: Practicing Interdependence to Heal Our Trauma–And Our World” here: 👉 https://www.attunedbook.com/ ✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website: 👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com Zenju Earthlyn Marselean Manuel - author, visual artist, poet, drummer, and ordained Zen Buddhist priest, was born in Los Angeles, California to parents who migrated from Creole Louisiana. Zenju Earthlyn's spiritual writing is steeped in ancient memories of her ancestors and therefore explores the deep inner spiritual journey of our human existence. Her publications are rich with insights into birth and death, transformation, transcendence, and the exploration of other worlds. In essence, she offers the riches of her internal discoveries that can be difficult to put into words. Her work has been endorsed by venerable teachers such as Thich Nhat Hanh, Charles Johnson, and Iyanla Vazant. She holds both a master's and a doctorate degree. ✨ Connect with Zenju here: 👉 https://zenju.org/ Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma. In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University. ✨ Connect with Thomas here: Website: https://thomashuebl.com/ Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/ Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/ThomasHuebl YouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashuebl #thomashuebl #collectivetrauma #healing

Thomas is joined by filmmaker and founder of the Identity Development Institute, Stephen Gyllenhaal. They discuss the pain of living during these uncertain and tumultuous times, and how having the courage to face our collective trauma can help us navigate this unprecedented era. In an interconnected world, things like violence, war, and mental illness are undeniable. And sometimes the institutions that are meant to address these problems fall short. Stephen and Thomas explore the importance of surfacing our collective wounds, and resonating with them so that those who are suffering can maintain healing connections instead of feeling isolated and alone. ✨ Order Thomas Hübl’s new book, “Attuned: Practicing Interdependence to Heal Our Trauma–And Our World” here: 👉 https://www.attunedbook.com/ ✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website: 👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com In 2017, after 50 years in the psychological sector, Stephen founded The Identity Development Institute helping people heal from the impact of trauma from conception through pre-verbal development. He’s also been an award-winning Hollywood director, primarily focusing on psychological issues, and in recent years has turned his attention to documentaries that explore social structures and early human development. ✨ Connect with Stephen here: 👉 https://www.identitydevelopmentinstitute.com/ Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma. In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University. ✨ Connect with Thomas here: Website: https://thomashuebl.com/ Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/ Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/ThomasHuebl YouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashuebl #thomashuebl #collectivetrauma #healing

In part two of this special Q&A series, Thomas answers more of the thoughtful questions submitted by listeners during his recent live event with Dr. Gabor Maté. This Q&A centers on topics explored in Thomas’ recently released book - Attuned. In this episode, Thomas discusses the impact of individual healing and attunement on larger social systems, and what is needed to create more grounded, attuned, and trauma-informed workplaces. ✨ Order Thomas Hübl’s new book, “Attuned: Practicing Interdependence to Heal Our Trauma–And Our World” here: 👉 https://www.attunedbook.com/ ✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website: 👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma. In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University. ✨ Connect with Thomas here: Website: https://thomashuebl.com/ Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/ Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/ThomasHuebl YouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashuebl #thomashuebl #collectivetrauma #healing

Thomas is joined by cultural anthropologist, social entrepreneur, and author, Joana Breidenbach. They discuss the ecosystem of disinformation that is fragmenting society and the systemic factors that contribute to it.Joana explains the role that technology plays in how we obtain and interpret information, exploring the motives of those who spread disinformation, and the historical trends that have made it increasingly difficult for people to understand unfamiliar perspectives. She and Thomas also examine how individual and collective trauma can make us more susceptible to disinformation, and how greater self-reflection, embodiment, and humility can make us more resilient to it.✨ Order Thomas Hübl’s book, “Attuned: Practicing Interdependence to Heal Our Trauma–And Our World” here: 👉 https://www.attunedbook.com/  ✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website: 👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com Joana Breidenbach is a cultural anthropologist, social entrepreneur, and author. She is co-founder of betterplace.org, Germany’s largest donation platform. In 2010, she founded the betterplace lab, a think tank researching the use of digital technologies for the common good. She has been studying with Thomas Hübl for over a decade and explores the importance of inner work for entrepreneurship and social innovation. ✨ Connect with Joana Breidenbach here: 👉 https://www.joanabreidenbach.de/ Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma. In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University.✨ Connect with Thomas here:Website: https://thomashuebl.com/ Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/ Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/ThomasHuebl YouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashuebl #thomashuebl #collectivetrauma #healing

Thomas is interviewed by distinguished Irish poet, theologian and mediator, and the host of the Poetry Unbound podcast, Pádraig Ó Tuama. They discuss the relationship between spirituality, religion, and trauma, and the importance of incorporating art - including writing, poetry, and visual art - into social healing rituals. Pádraig emphasizes that “Art speaks to our being in a different way than rational words.”Their conversation also focuses on the need for structured spaces in society where people can eschew dogmatic thinking and digest fear and pain together in order to feel more grounded and gain valuable new perspectives.✨ Order Thomas Hübl’s book, “Attuned: Practicing Interdependence to Heal Our Trauma–And Our World” here: 👉 https://www.attunedbook.com/  ✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website: 👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com Pádraig Ó Tuama is the host of On Being’s Poetry Unbound — a podcast that has gained over 10 million downloads since its start in 2020 — and also the author of Poetry Unbound; 50 Poems to Open Your Life. Profiled by The New Yorker, and published in Poetry Ireland, the Harvard Review, The Kenyon Review, and many others, he brings interests in conflict, language, religion, and power to his work. His most recent collection is Feed the Beast (Broken Sleep Books, 2022).✨ Connect with Pádraig here: 👉 https://www.padraigotuama.comThomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma. In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University.✨ Connect with Thomas here:Website: https://thomashuebl.com/ Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/ Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/ThomasHuebl YouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashuebl #thomashuebl #collectivetrauma #healing

On this episode of Point of Relation, Thomas Hübl is joined by author, Jungian psychotherapist, and renowned Jewish scholar, Rabbi Dr. Tirzah Firestone. They discuss the centuries of trauma that have yet to be metabolized in our collective unconscious, and what we can do, both individually and collectively, to integrate and heal from this painful shared history.She and Thomas explore how trauma lives in our nervous systems, and is transmitted across generations via epigenetics. They agree that we can start to meaningfully recover from these wounds by borrowing, with permission, the nutrition provided by wisdom traditions around the world.Rabbi Firestone also shares an energy-raising exercise for sparking beautiful renewal.✨ Order Thomas Hübl’s book, “Attuned: Practicing Interdependence to Heal Our Trauma–And Our World” here: 👉 https://www.attunedbook.com/  ✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website: 👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com  Rabbi Tirzah Firestone, PhD, is an author, Jungian psychotherapist, leader in the international Jewish Renewal Movement, and a renowned Jewish scholar and teacher. Widely known for her groundbreaking work on Kabbalah, depth psychology, intergenerational trauma healing, and the re-integration of the feminine wisdom tradition within Judaism, Rabbi Tirzah lectures and teaches internationally about spiritual and ancient wisdom practices that are honed to assist us at this critical time in world history. She is the author of the award-winning book, Wounds into Wisdom: Healing Intergenerational Jewish Trauma.✨Visit her website: 👉 https://www.tirzahfirestone.com/Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma. In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University.✨ Connect with Thomas here:Website: https://thomashuebl.com/ Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/ Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/ThomasHuebl YouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashuebl #thomashuebl #collectivetrauma #healing

In this special Q&A episode, Thomas answers some insightful questions submitted by listeners during his recent live event with Dr. Gabor Maté, which focused on topics explored in Thomas’ recently released book - Attuned: Practicing Interdependence to Heal Our Trauma–And Our World.The questions covered by Thomas explore how to practice attunement in an environment of harsh political polarization, why it’s difficult - but possible - to feel attuned to collective issues even when there is discord in your family or personal relationships, and that the numbness many of us feel in response to trauma is not a barrier to attunement but a valid experience that we would all benefit from attuning to. ✨ Order Thomas Hübl’s book, “Attuned: Practicing Interdependence to Heal Our Trauma–And Our World” here:👉 https://www.attunedbook.com/ ✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website:👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.comThomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma. In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University. ✨ Connect with Thomas here:Website: https://thomashuebl.com/YouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashueblFacebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/ThomasHuebl #thomashuebl #collectivetrauma #healing

Thomas is joined by contemplative social scientist, consultant, and educator in leadership, social justice, and mindfulness, Dr. Angel Acosta. They discuss Artificial Intelligence, or AI, and the radical shifts it is generating in our lives, our work, and our collective consciousness. While AI holds incredible potential for the evolution of humanity, its creation and implementation also raise a number of serious ethical concerns.Thomas and Dr. Acosta explore how this cutting-edge technology mirrors both the best and worst aspects of human society and how our approach to it can either create further discrimination and trauma or help us to better understand ourselves and collectively heal.Key points discussed in this episode include:✨How addressing the biases inherent in AI technology can create a leap forward in collective consciousness ✨The fear that occurs when new inventions arise, and how integrating trauma enables us to assess the situation with more clarity ✨The need to heal deep wounds in our collective unconscious so that they are not propagated by AI ✨How the widespread use of AI represents a major evolutionary moment for our species ✨Exploring what it would look like to develop AI for the specific purpose of healing trauma-----------✨ Order Thomas Hübl’s book, “Attuned: Practicing Interdependence to Heal Our Trauma–And Our World” here: 👉 attunedbook.comSign up for updates by visiting our website: 👉 pointofrelationpodcast.comDr. Angel Acosta is a contemplative social scientist, consultant, and educator in leadership, social justice, and mindfulness who earned his Ed.D. in Curriculum and Teaching from Teachers College at Columbia University. He is the convener of the Healing Centered Education Summit, Chair of the Acosta Institute, and Director of the Garrison Institute's Fellowship Program. 👉 Website 👉 YouTubeThomas Hübl is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator whose lifelong work integrates the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since 2004, he has taught and facilitated programs with more than 100,000 people worldwide, including online courses which he began offering in 2008. The origin of his work and more than two decades of study and practice on healing collective trauma is detailed in his book Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds.Connect with Thomas here. 👉 Website 👉 Facebook 👉 Instagram 👉 Twitter 👉 YouTubeGet to know The Pocket Project: 👉 pocketproject.org

Thomas Hübl is joined by writer, trained Buddhist monk, and meditation teacher, Jack Kornfield. They discuss how Buddhist meditation and mindfulness practices, in combination with more traditional forms of therapy, can help to heal individual and collective trauma.Jack explores how his own traumatic experiences led him to Buddhism. Early in his spiritual journey, he spent extensive time in highly traumatized environments. There, he learned the importance of creating safe, ritual containers where people can come together to share and process their trauma. He believes that mindful, loving awareness is a skill that anyone can learn, and it’s an essential practice for anyone seeking to heal their own trauma or be a compassionate witness to the trauma of others.Ultimately, Jack believes that love is our most powerful tool to address the world’s most dire problems.✨ Order Thomas Hübl’s book, “Attuned: Practicing Interdependence to Heal Our Trauma–And Our World” here: 👉 https://www.attunedbook.com/  ✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website: 👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma. In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University.✨ Connect with Thomas here:Website: https://thomashuebl.com/ Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/ Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/ThomasHuebl YouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashuebl #thomashuebl #collectivetrauma #healing

Thomas is joined by internationally recognized change agent and Professor at Johns Hopkins University, Christina Bethell. They discuss her research and work to transform children’s healthcare systems and promote relational well-being for families and communities. Christina has created what she calls the Positive Childhood Experiences Scale, a measurement of beneficial relational experiences that can help to offset the effects of Adverse Childhood Experiences, or ACEs. She and Thomas explore how medical health providers, therapists, and families can improve their relational attunement and build lasting connections that build pathways to healing.Sign up for updates by visiting our website: 👉 pointofrelationpodcast.com#thomashuebl #trauma #healing

Thomas Hübl shares his perspective on the fundamentals of collective trauma. He describes it as an ecosystem that we all inhabit, and all affect. He explores what societies can do to foster growth and healing while enduring repeated traumatic events, both large-scale and personal. According to Thomas, therein lies the key - healing on both the individual and collective levels.He discusses what makes an effective community healing space, and how such spaces allow us to integrate our traumatic past, giving us the tools to address our current systemic problems and build societies that are more just and resilient.Key Points: 00:00 Introduction 00:58 The existence of collective trauma 04:33 How collective trauma remains frozen  08:51 The need for activism and healing spaces 10:04 Causes and effects of unrecognized trauma 13:41 How to cultivate healing from collective trauma 17:14 Why shared safe spaces are crucial for transformationSign up for updates by visiting our website: 👉 pointofrelationpodcast.com✨ Thomas Hübl’s book, “Attuned: Practicing Interdependence to Heal Our Trauma–And Our World” is out now! Find a copy at your local bookseller, or visit: 👉 attunedbook.comThomas Hübl is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator whose lifelong work integrates the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since 2004, he has taught and facilitated programs with more than 100,000 people worldwide, including online courses which he began offering in 2008. The origin of his work and more than two decades of study and practice on healing collective trauma is detailed in his book Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds.Learn more at thomashuebl.com.#thomashuebl #trauma #healing

Thomas is joined by Senior Lecturer in the MIT Management Sloan School, and the Founding Chair of the Presencing Institute, Otto Scharmer, and facilitator, systems change leader, intrapreneur, and strategist, Antoinette Klatzky. They discuss what Otto calls the “architectures of connection”-- the social systems and structures that can either be extractive and perpetuate violence and trauma, or be open and regenerative and enable healing.Thomas, Antionette, and Otto also explore how they’ve taken differing paths to the same conclusion; that all societies need collective healing spaces where intense emotions and experiences can be witnessed and creative inspiration for the future can emerge.Key Points:00:00 Introduction01:54 Healing as staying heart-connected04:24 The lack of societal architectures for healing spaces10:02 Cultivating our inner soil for regeneration15:42 Social systems and the root of structural violence21:55 Awareness of the social field26:15 The presence of the circle being and how it works35:10 The impact of acknowledging pain and trauma39:37 The enabling conditions for healing Sign up for updates by visiting our website: 👉 pointofrelationpodcast.com✨ Thomas Hübl’s book, “Attuned: Practicing Interdependence to Heal Our Trauma–And Our World” is out now! Find a copy at your local bookseller, or visit: 👉 attunedbook.comThomas Hübl is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator whose lifelong work integrates the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since 2004, he has taught and facilitated programs with more than 100,000 people worldwide, including online courses which he began offering in 2008. The origin of his work and more than two decades of study and practice on healing collective trauma is detailed in his book Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds.Learn more at thomashuebl.com

Thomas speaks with internationally renowned performer, writer of the Muscogee (Creek) Nation, and 23rd Poet Laureate of the United States, Joy Harjo. They discuss the power of poetry to open our awareness, allow access to greater knowledge, and connect with other humans throughout history. Joy shares what drew her to poetry, and how her work is deeply rooted in her ancestral lineage.She and Thomas explore how to attune to the living ancestral field that we inhabit, and how to reckon with historical trauma through storytelling rituals and ceremonies. Joy also reads an excerpt from her 2021 memoir, Poet Warrior: A Call for Love and Justice, and shares two poems, This Morning I Pray for My Enemies, and For Calling the Spirit Back from Wandering the Earth in Its Human Feet.Key Points: 00:00 Introduction 01:47 Finding poetry and one’s divine mission 07:27 Reading snippets from Joy’s books 19:27 The significance of listening 21:38 Poetry as a doorway to the unknown 25:02 Conflict and humanity in storytelling 31:02 Creating fluidity and healing with words 37:59 Channeling your inner knowing 46:29 History never rests 51:41 How poetry and visual art amplify the abstract 57:40 Final thoughtsSign up for updates by visiting our website: 👉 pointofrelationpodcast.com✨ Order Thomas Hübl’s book, “Attuned: Practicing Interdependence to Heal Our Trauma–And Our World” and get free gifts when you follow the steps in the link below: 👉 attunedbook.comJoy Har­jo, the 23rd Poet Lau­re­ate of the Unit­ed States, is a mem­ber of the  Muscogee Nation. Har­jo began writ­ing poet­ry as a mem­ber of the Uni­ver­si­ty of New Mexico’s Native stu­dent orga­ni­za­tion, the Kiva Club, in response to Native empow­er­ment move­ments. Har­jo is the author of ten books of award-winning poet­ry, three children’s books, and sev­er­al screen­plays and col­lec­tions of prose inter­views. Har­jo per­forms with her sax­o­phone and flutes, solo and with her band, the Arrow Dynam­ics Band, and pre­vi­ous­ly with Joy Har­jo and Poet­ic Jus­tice. In addi­tion to serv­ing as a three-term U.S. Poet Lau­re­ate, Har­jo is a chan­cel­lor of the Acad­e­my of Amer­i­can Poets and is a found­ing board mem­ber and Chair of the Native Arts and Cul­tures Foun­da­tion. She has recently been induct­ed into the Amer­i­can Acad­e­my of Arts and Let­ters, the Amer­i­can Philo­soph­i­cal Soci­ety, the Nation­al Native Amer­i­can Hall of Fame, and the Nation­al Woman’s Hall of Fame. She lives in Tul­sa, Okla­homa where she is the inau­gur­al Artist-in-Res­i­dence of the Bob Dylan Center. Learn more at joyharjo.comThomas Hübl is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator whose lifelong work integrates the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since 2004, he has taught and facilitated programs with more than 100,000 people worldwide, including online courses which he began offering in 2008. The origin of his work and more than two decades of study and practice on healing collective trauma is detailed in his book Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds.Learn more at thomashuebl.com

Thomas is joined by Mallika Dutt, a longtime advocate for equity and well-being for people and the planet, and the founder of the non-profit organizations INTER-CONNECTED, Breakthrough, and Sakhi. They discuss the pivotal moments in Mallika’s life that brought the concepts of sacredness, interdependence, and interconnectedness into her activism.Mallika shares her commitment to the collective liberation of all beings on this planet, and how anchoring ourselves to that commitment can move us out of old paradigms and enable us to create new, restorative patterns in our relationships and in the larger world.She and Thomas explore Mallika’s personal path to understanding our fundamental oneness, and methods we can all use to find greater self-acceptance, mediate conflict, address harm, and heal trauma in a restorative and grounded way.Key Points: 00:00 Introduction 05:47 Putting the sacred in activism 13:46 Breaking the triangle of disempowerment 19:43 Collective liberation and how to get there 22:01 Interconnectedness as an awareness of our role in the world 26:18 Navigating conflict with presencing 29:49 The ability to hold complexity in safe spaces 33:05 The power of rituals 40:07 Daily practices for interconnectednessSign up for updates by visiting our website: 👉 pointofrelationpodcast.com✨ Order Thomas Hübl’s book, “Attuned: Practicing Interdependence to Heal Our Trauma–And Our World” and get free gifts when you follow the steps in the link below: 👉 attunedbook.com

Thomas Hübl further expands on Attunement– a relational mindfulness practice that allows our nervous systems to feel one another and transmit many layers of information. He explains that each of us contains a rich inner world that we must get to know in order to attune with others. When we create inner calm, we also create a safe space where we can be fully present with people in their authentic entirety. These attuned environments can lead to entire ecosystems of Attunement where deep emotional connections are fostered over time.Thomas also explores how Attunement grants us greater social agency, or the ability to effectively transmit our inner gifts to the outer world. This quality is essential to activism and change-making as it deepens our care for the world and enables us to take action.Key Points: 00:00 Introduction 03:21 What is attunement? 06:38 Creating safety and social impact 08:35 Creating ecosystems of attunement 10:24 Precision is love 12:31 Enriching life and cultivating presence 14:45 Attunement breeds citizens with a purpose 16:54 Appreciating quietness to encourage growth 18:10 Balancing one’s needs with the world's needsSign up for updates by visiting our website: 👉 pointofrelationpodcast.com✨ Order Thomas Hübl’s book, “Attuned: Practicing Interdependence to Heal Our Trauma–And Our World” and get free gifts when you follow the steps in the link below: 👉 attunedbook.com✨ Sign up for Thomas' new self-paced online course: The Art of Attunement 👉 artofattunementcourse.comThomas Hübl is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator whose lifelong work integrates the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since 2004, he has taught and facilitated programs with more than 100,000 people worldwide, including online courses which he began offering in 2008. The origin of his work and more than two decades of study and practice on healing collective trauma is detailed in his book Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds.Connect with Thomas here.Website: https://thomashuebl.com/Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/ThomasHueblYouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashuebl

According to filmmaker and founder of the Identity Development Institute, Stephen Gyllenhaal, “The best instrument in the world is another human being.” In this episode, he and Thomas discuss the importance of resonance to trauma healing. Similar to attunement, resonance involves communication between nervous systems wherein our bodies transmit our pain to others within a safe and open environment.This is also the basis for the Intention Method (IoPT) sessions that changed Stephen’s life and inspired him to start training others in this unique methodology. He explains that early traumas make positive change and evolution difficult, and how being present in connection with others has allowed him to experience profound healing. He and Thomas also discuss how the art of cinema is a form of resonance, and the themes of galactic resonance that are explored in his upcoming documentary, The Universe Sings.Key Points: 00:45 Movies as an expression of trauma 06:54 Trauma travels generations 11:24 Healing requires digging at the core 18:45 The human being as an attuned resonator 24:52 Resonance is presence 28:36 Film and TV representations of trauma 37:18 How media creates spaces for conversation 41:46 The way to trauma healing  Stephen Gyllenhaal is a film director, poet, and Founding Director of the Identity Development Institute, which aims to grow a community of practitioners, researchers, and educators that integrate trauma in facilitating healthy identities. He is well-known for directing movies, such as “Film Spies” and “Waterland”, and several episodes of hit TV shows, “Numb3rs”, “The Mentalist” and “Twin Peaks.”Sign up for updates by visiting our website: 👉 pointofrelationpodcast.com✨ Order Thomas Hübl’s book, “Attuned: Practicing Interdependence to Heal Our Trauma–And Our World” and get free gifts when you follow the steps in the link below: 👉 attunedbook.com/

Thomas is joined by Peabody Award-winning broadcaster, New York Times bestselling author, and the host of On Being, Krista Tippett. They discuss the virtues of hospitality, humility, and creativity in spirituality, and in creating spaces where deep subjects and emotions can safely emerge. Krista explains how her upbringing and work as a journalist have shown her the need for human civilization to outgrow our binary ways of thinking and have the courage to hold contradictions and complexities.She and Thomas explore how humanity can mature and spiritually evolve, starting from within ourselves and our bodies, and expanding into an understanding of the shared traumas of our past. They discuss the continuing legacy of racial trauma that began with slavery, and how the progress of civil rights is being impeded by our collective unwillingness to fundamentally change our way of life. Krista maintains, despite the horrors of history, that “hope is not wishful thinking,” but a necessary trait of those who inspire us to transform for the better.Key Points: 00:00 Introduction 02:16 The power of language in trauma healing 06:20 Creating spaces conducive to safety 14:44 How healing trauma creates presence 21:10 Finding tools to integrate stored trauma 26:29 Lessons from Germany and Holocaust Survivors 36:42 An aspirational sign of societal maturity 44:08 Solidarity through action 48:49 The need for a spiritual anchor for healingKrista Tippett is a Peabody Award-winning broadcaster, a National Humanities Medalist, and a New York Times bestselling author. She attended Brown University and became a journalist and diplomat in Cold War Berlin. After studying theology at Yale Divinity School in the early 1990s, she saw a black hole where intelligent public conversation about the religious, spiritual, and moral aspects of human life might be. She launched Speaking of Faith — later On Being — as a weekly national public radio show in 2003. What launched on two radio stations grew to over 400 across the U.S. and has received the highest honors in broadcasting, the Internet, and podcasting. 💬 Get in touch with Krista Tippett.Website: https://onbeing.org/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/onbeing/Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/kristatippett✨ Order Thomas Hübl’s book, “Attuned: Practicing Interdependence to Heal Our Trauma–And Our World” and get free gifts when you follow the steps in the link below:👉 https://www.attunedbook.com/Sign up for updates by visiting our website:👉 pointofrelationpodcast.comThomas Hübl is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator whose lifelong work integrates the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since 2004, he has taught and facilitated programs with more than 100,000 people worldwide, including online courses which he began offering in 2008. The origin of his work and more than two decades of study and practice on healing collective trauma is detailed in his book Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds.Connect with Thomas here.Website: https://thomashuebl.com/Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/ThomasHueblYouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashueblGet to know The Pocket Project:👉 https://pocketproject.org/

Thomas is joined by Rhonda V. Magee, a leading mindfulness teacher, practice innovator, author, and Professor of Law at the University of San Francisco.They discuss how mindfulness has evolved from its roots in traditional Buddhism to an increasingly popular modern practice. Rhonda stresses the need for us to look at the deeper traditional teachings of mindfulness in their original contexts so that their depth and core essence aren’t lost. She and Thomas also explore what Rhonda calls “Soulful Mindfulness,” which delves into musical and cultural practices originating in the Black American experience that has helped Black people survive from the era of slavery into the racism and oppression of the modern era. Rhonda explains how our attachment to individuality can lead to oppression, but our capacity for loving acceptance and compassion can lead to social transformation.Key Points: 00:00 Introduction 00:52 Rhonda's history with mindfulness 06:23 Positive benefits of mindfulness practice 11:01 Soulful mindfulness 20:26 The roots of soul in Black American history 29:20 How trauma affects healthy attachment 34:26 The ethics of trauma healing 40:26 What's needed in healing spaces 48:31 Being a lifelong learner and staying curious 54:37 The power of our oceansRhonda V. Magee is an internationally-recognized teacher, guide, and mentor, focused on integrating mindfulness into higher education, law, and social change work. A prolific author, she draws on law and legal history to weave storytelling, poetry, analysis, and practices into inspiration for changing how we think, act, and live better together in a rapidly changing world.For 20+ years, Professor Magee has studied mindfulness, its underlying origins in Buddhism, and its potential benefits and applications in the world. She has been exploring the integration of mindfulness into teaching and learning, and social engagement, including in support of personal and collective healing, activism, and leadership. She has written extensively on how mindfulness and other contemplative practices support engagement in the world in the face of the multiple interlocking challenges of our times, including climate distress, migration, political polarization, migration, war, and their effects on us all.Website: https://www.rhondavmagee.com/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rhondavmagee/YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCts2krneWSKW5gTefCNgUSwFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/RhondaVMagee/✨ Order Thomas Hübl’s book, “Attuned: Practicing Interdependence to Heal Our Trauma–And Our World” and get free gifts when you follow the steps in the link below:👉 https://www.attunedbook.com/Sign up for updates by visiting our website:👉 pointofrelationpodcast.comThomas Hübl is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator whose lifelong work integrates the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since 2004, he has taught and facilitated programs with more than 100,000 people worldwide, including online courses which he began offering in 2008. The origin of his work and more than two decades of study and practice on healing collective trauma is detailed in his book Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds.Connect with Thomas here.Website: https://thomashuebl.com/Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/ThomasHueblYouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashueblGet to know The Pocket Project:👉 https://pocketproject.org/

Thomas Hübl explores the concepts of Inner and Outer Coherence and the role they play in relationships and communication. He describes inner coherence as the capacity to understand our own inner experience, resonate with others, and feel whole. It’s a function of our nervous system that combines external sensory information with our internal thoughts and emotions. He explains that inner coherence leads to outer coherence- it creates a space for us to be present, empathetic, and share openly with others. But when we become triggered or defensive, the bridges between us collapse, making it hard to feel other people, and leaving us stuck re-enacting or projecting our wounds from the past. According to Thomas, by understanding and regulating our inner worlds, we can work together to manifest a better future.Key Points: 00:24 Inner Coherence creates Outer Coherence 02:24 Relational intelligence and transparent communication 04:47 The importance of developing inner awareness 07:46 Coherence transforms our presencing ability 09:25 How trauma hinders resonance and what to do about it 12:27 Why coherence is needed for social impact 14:32 Attunement breeds resilience and growth✨ Order Thomas Hübl’s book, “Attuned: Practicing Interdependence to Heal Our Trauma–And Our World” and get free gifts when you follow the steps in the link below:👉 https://www.attunedbook.com/ Sign up for updates by visiting our website:👉 pointofrelationpodcast.com Thomas Hübl is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator whose lifelong work integrates the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since 2004, he has taught and facilitated programs with more than 100,000 people worldwide, including online courses which he began offering in 2008. The origin of his work and more than two decades of study and practice on healing collective trauma is detailed in his book Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. Connect with Thomas here.Website: https://thomashuebl.com/Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/ThomasHueblYouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashuebl 

Thomas shares practices, theories, and more from his new book "Attuned: Practicing Interdependence to Heal Our Trauma―and Our World". Order now at attunedbook.com to receive a guided meditation, book excerpt, and help alert booksellers to the strong interest in the book to ensure that it's stocked widely and accessible for people to find.Amy Elizabeth Fox of Mobius Executive Leadership was kind enough to conduct this interview with Thomas.According to Thomas, “Resonance is the universal language of life,” and the resonance that occurs between our nervous systems is what allows us to connect with each others’ experiences. He and Amy explore attunement practices that we can use in our daily lives in order to practice transparent communication and create safe environments where undigested trauma can begin to be processed and healed.They discuss the systemic and intergenerational nature of trauma, and how the deep benefits of practicing relational attunement ripple out into the larger world and are felt by future generations.Key Points:00:00 Introduction00:52 Thomas’ inspiration for the book03:23 Transparent communication and attunement07:20 How trauma interrupts attunement11:07 Relating as a remedy for trauma14:38 The process of digesting trauma20:07 How the lack of attunement affects the world24:56 What is relational mysticism?29:35 Individual, ancestral, and collective outlook in trauma healing37:14 Practical tips for attunement Sign up for updates by visiting our website:👉 pointofrelationpodcast.comThomas Hübl is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator whose lifelong work integrates the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since 2004, he has taught and facilitated programs with more than 100,000 people worldwide, including online courses which he began offering in 2008. The origin of his work and more than two decades of study and practice on healing collective trauma is detailed in his book Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds.Connect with Thomas here.Website: https://thomashuebl.com/Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/ThomasHueblYouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashuebl

Thomas is joined by writer, embodiment facilitator, political organizer, therapist, and the founder and director of The Embodiment Institute, Prentis Hemphill. They discuss the evolution of embodiment and somatics, and how our bodies are the sites at which transformation occurs in trauma work. Prentis discusses their work in social and political movements to address individual and collective trauma, and to tap into the resilience and creativity needed to envision solutions to the catastrophes and crises that we face. They explore the need to acknowledge our interconnectedness in healing spaces, and the potential of somatics and embodiment to help us understand ourselves, integrate the traumatic events we’ve experienced, and re-awaken parts of ourselves that may have gone dormant.Key Points: 00:00 Introduction 01:41 What shaped Prentis' career 07:14 Internalizing vs Awake 12:11 Staying connected to the source 13:47 How generational pain surfaces in present relationships 19:55 Our bodies remember traumatic stories 26:25 Disrupting the wellness industry 29:50 The distortion of trauma 32:16 Being open to change and healing 39:00 The need for collective rituals 45:05 Fostering intimacy for deeper healing 49:58 Prentis’ hope for the worldPrentis Hemphill (They/Them) is unearthing the connections between healing, community accountability, and our most inspired visions for social transformation. They are a therapist, somatics teacher and facilitator, political organizer, writer, and the founder of The Embodiment Institute. For over 10 years, they have been working with individuals and organizations during their most challenging moments of change; navigating leadership transitions, conflict, and realigning practice with values. They hold an M.A. in Clinical Psychology and have worked in low-cost mental health clinics offering therapeutic services to marginalized people. In 2016, they were awarded the Buddhist Peace Fellowship Soma Award for community work inspired by Buddhist thought. Their work has been featured in the New York Times, Huffington Post, and Shondaland. They are a contributor to The Politics of Trauma by Staci K. Haines, as well as You are Your Best Thing edited by Brené Brown and Tarana Burke, and Holding Change by Adrienne Maree Brown.Links:Website: https://prentishemphill.com/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/prentishemphill/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/prentishemphill/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100076227080719Listen and know more about Prentis Hemphill’s podcast, Finding Our Way. 👉 https://www.findingourwaypodcast.com/Sign up for updates by visiting our website:👉 pointofrelationpodcast.comThomas Hübl is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator whose lifelong work integrates the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since 2004, he has taught and facilitated programs with more than 100,000 people worldwide, including online courses which he began offering in 2008. The origin of his work and more than two decades of study and practice on healing collective trauma is detailed in his book Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural WoundsConnect with Thomas here.Website: https://thomashuebl.com/Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/Instagram/Twitter: @thomashueblYouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashueblGet to know The Pocket Project:👉 https://pocketproject.org/

Thomas is joined by author, leadership expert, and the founder of Leadership Circle, Bob Anderson. They discuss what it takes to be an effective leader in our current era of change and upheaval. Through research and extensive experience, Bob has concluded that the most salient characteristic of an effective leader is their emphasis on relationship, and that this is a universal theme across all cultures. He explains how an effective leader can develop a group whose collective intelligence is greater than any one individual’s intelligence, and that this is where the emergent future lies. Thomas and Bob also explore how to be open to new insights and inspirations in order to take your work to an innovative edge, and the “core tension” between purpose and safety.Key Points: 02:29 What makes a successful leader? 08:17 How to create collective leadership 11:04 The emerging future of leadership 15:22 Breaking the reactive pattern 19:37 Self-authorship makes better leaders 33:54 Are you living your true purpose? 37:09 Treading the edge of irrelevance 40:09 Being open to inspirationBob Anderson is the Founder, Chairman, and Chief Development Officer of the Leadership Circle. He dedicated his career to exploring the intersections between leadership and personal mastery, and between competence and consciousness. He has completed his second co-authored book "Scaling Leadership: Building Organizational Capability and Capacity to Create Outcomes that Matter Most." "Scaling Leadership" is an essential guide that offers senior leaders the information needed to develop conscious leadership at scale with their organization. Links:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/robert-j-anderson/Leadership Circle Website: https://leadershipcircle.com/YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@tlcasiapacificSign up for updates by visiting our website:👉 pointofrelationpodcast.comThomas Hübl is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator whose lifelong work integrates the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since 2004, he has taught and facilitated programs with more than 100,000 people worldwide, including online courses which he began offering in 2008. The origin of his work and more than two decades of study and practice on healing collective trauma is detailed in his book Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural WoundsConnect with Thomas here.Website: https://thomashuebl.com/Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/Instagram/Twitter: @thomashueblYouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashuebl

Thomas Hübl explores how tension is a physical manifestation of undigested trauma, and how we can begin to release tension by becoming more in tune with our emotions. Trauma responses can cause us to feel angry, overwhelmed, numb, and disconnected from the present moment. Thomas explains the importance of recognizing these signs of dysregulation without judgment. Moments of stress can guide us toward the emotions that we need to address and digest, serving as opportunities for us to better understand our inner worlds. He also provides tools to help regulate the nervous system and find presence during difficult moments and walks us through the 3-Sync Meditation technique.Key Points: 00:17 Stress can be reactive or numbing 02:26 Physical tension is undigested trauma 04:44 Using the breath to self-regulate 06:05 Learning to be in the present moment 08:29 Trauma responses serve a purpose 12:12 Self-awareness reduces stress 13:12 The 3-Sync Meditation technique 16:21 Mindfulness encourages fluidity and easeSign up for updates by visiting our website:👉 pointofrelationpodcast.comThomas Hübl is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator whose lifelong work integrates the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since 2004, he has taught and facilitated programs with more than 100,000 people worldwide, including online courses which he began offering in 2008. The origin of his work and more than two decades of study and practice on healing collective trauma is detailed in his book Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural WoundsConnect with Thomas here:Website: https://thomashuebl.com/Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/Twitter: https://twitter.com/ThomasHuebl YouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashueblGet to know The Pocket Project:👉 https://pocketproject.org/

Dr. Ruby Gibson; author, cultural healer and advocate, and the developer of Somatic Archaeology© joins Thomas for a second conversation. They dive deep into Ruby’s life’s work offering healing to Native Americans. They discuss methods of healing that address the historical and ongoing traumatization of Native American communities, and how she weaves traditional spiritual protocols into newer methodologies.Ruby explains that Indigenous people view life as a wheel in which everything is interconnected and that individual healing is inextricably linked to communal healing. She stresses the importance of healing in groups in order to foster a sense of belonging, something that Native people struggle with after enduring genocide and discrimination.She and Thomas explore the role that Mother Earth plays in the healing process, and how praying over scarred and embattled places can be spiritually restorative. Key Points:05:36 Maturing into the awakening journey12:32 Navigating healing during ongoing trauma17:33 Wellness is abundant and readily available24:25 One-on-one vs. collective healing30:47 A healthy way of dealing with shame34:18 How to do an inner check-in41:10 Dr. Gibson’s recovery center plans47:03 Online resources to stay connectedFor 35+ years, Dr. Ruby Gibson has been dedicated to the craft and science of Historical Trauma reconciliation, cultural healing, and wellness among Native and Indigenous Peoples all around Turtle Island, and abroad in Europe and Australia. She developed two intergenerational trauma recovery models – Somatic Archaeology© and Generational Brainspotting™. Dr. Gibson is the author of, My Body, My Earth, The Practice of Somatic Archaeology. As the Executive Director of Freedom Lodge non-profit, Dr. Gibson’s renowned training, the Historical Trauma Master Class©, has assisted hundreds of Indigenous people to recovery from the generational suffering of ethnocide. Get in touch with Dr. Ruby Gibson here.Website: https://rubygibson.com/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/freedomlodge7/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/freedomlodgeinc/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/freedom-lodge-41b44a103/YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@freedomlodge3291 Sign up for updates by visiting our website:👉 pointofrelationpodcast.comThomas Hübl is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator whose lifelong work integrates the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since 2004, he has taught and facilitated programs with more than 100,000 people worldwide, including online courses which he began offering in 2008. The origin of his work and more than two decades of study and practice on healing collective trauma is detailed in his book Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural WoundsConnect with Thomas here.Website: https://thomashuebl.com/Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/Instagram/Twitter: @thomashueblYouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashuebl

Thomas interviews world-renowned trauma expert and the author of “The Body Keeps the Score,” Dr. Bessel van der Kolk. They discuss different approaches to healing trauma on individual and societal levels. Dr. Van der Kolk emphasizes the need for physical and relational safety in order to process trauma, and the difficulty of healing in environments that tend towards disembodiment.He explains that trauma causes us to become numb, withdrawn, and full of shame, and that we experience these sensations physically.But through collective and creative experiences, practicing self-compassion, and deepening our relationship with our physical bodies and the sensations we feel, we can reconnect to ourselves, re-discover our spirituality, and define our own identities.Key Points:02:55 The importance of trauma awareness06:21 Relational safety forms healthy societies10:04 An interesting insight into generational trauma15:10 How safety affects academic performance18:15 Reigniting physical sensations for healing23:32 What goes on in healing workshops29:07 The cycle of trauma and how to break it38:04 Experiencing healing in the collective40:24 Being connected makes us Earth-conscious42:55 MDMA-assisted trauma work47:57 Spirituality as a healing resource50:20 Do this daily grounding practiceBessel van der Kolk, MD is a psychiatrist, author, researcher, and educator based in Boston, United States. Since the 1970s, his research has been in the area of post-traumatic stress. He is the author of The New York Times best-seller, The Body Keeps the Score. Van der Kolk formerly served as president of the International Society for Traumatic Stress Studies and is a former co-director of the National Child Traumatic Stress Network. He is a professor of psychiatry at Boston University School of Medicine and president of the Trauma Research Foundation in Brookline, Massachusetts.Website: https://www.besselvanderkolk.com/Facebook: https://web.facebook.com/thebodykeepsthescore?_rdc=1&_rdrLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/besselvanderkolk/Instagram: @thebodykeepsthescoreSign up for updates by visiting our website:👉 pointofrelationpodcast.comThomas Hübl is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator whose lifelong work integrates the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since 2004, he has taught and facilitated programs with more than 100,000 people worldwide, including online courses which he began offering in 2008. The origin of his work and more than two decades of study and practice on healing collective trauma is detailed in his book Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural WoundsConnect with Thomas here.Website: https://thomashuebl.com/Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/Instagram/Twitter: @thomashueblYouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashuebl

Thomas interviews the CEO of Mobius Executive Leadership, Amy Elizabeth Fox. They discuss the vital importance of integrating the profound wisdom found in trauma healing into the practice of leadership development. Amy describes the enormous influence that traumatic symptoms have on the way that companies operate, and how their cultures are formed. In her work with organizations in both the private and public sectors, she encourages workers and leaders to view internal problems as opportunities for transformation.By understanding and being open about their own lives and experiences, Mobius practitioners create a safe space for employees to explore their authentic selves, and relate to their coworkers with empathy and vulnerability. Amy explains that being in relation in this way provides the essential emotional intelligence tools needed to operate as high-performing teams.Key Points:04:24 Relationality is the root of repair 07:12 Why companies need deep healing work 10:14 How can leaders be agents of transformation? 13:26 Speak to your employees’ highest possibility 15:52 Transformation starts with the self 18:13 Friction as opportunities for growth 22:06 Are you on your self-authorship journey?---------------Amy Elizabeth Fox is a senior leadership strategist with experience consulting to senior leadership on issues related to human capital, organizational health, and leadership development. She is the Chief Executive Officer of Mobius Executive Leadership, a premier leadership development firm with offices in Boston and Switzerland. Over the past decade and a half, she has spoken at numerous national industry gatherings and led workshops for corporate executives across the country. Amy is also a psychotherapist and an executive coach. Connect with Amy:Website: https://www.mobiusleadership.com/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/amy.e.fox.94/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/amyelizabethfox/Twitter: @Amy_Mobius Connect with Mobius:Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/MobiusUSInstagram: @mobiusexecutiveleadershipTwitter: @MobiusExecLead---------------Thomas Hübl is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator whose lifelong work integrates the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since 2004, he has taught and facilitated programs with more than 100,000 people worldwide, including online courses which he began offering in 2008. The origin of his work and more than two decades of study and practice on healing collective trauma is detailed in his book Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural WoundsConnect with Thomas here:Website: https://thomashuebl.com/Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/Instagram and Twitter: @thomashueblYouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashueblSign up for updates by visiting our website:👉 pointofrelationpodcast.comGet to know The Pocket Project:👉 https://pocketproject.org/

Thomas is joined by author, cultural healer and advocate, and the developer of Somatic Archaeology© Dr. Ruby Gibson. They dive deep into her work on ancestral healing, which she refers to as ‘historical trauma recovery.’ Ruby leads an organization called The Freedom Lodge whose mission is to provide education and healing for Native American communities.Combining the sacred medicine of the Lakota traditions with modern approaches to psychology, she has developed integrated processes to learn and heal from both past and ongoing trauma. She and Thomas discuss the dire need for better resources for Natives who’ve suffered under oppressive systems, and the healing power of building a spiritual connection to our earth, our histories, our communities, and ourselves.Key Points:01:05 What is historical trauma recovery?05:44 The drive to heal humanity10:40 An eye-opening, spiritual dream16:12 Being ready is a feeling21:50 The five steps to somatic archeology30:36 Applying somatic archeology in the community34:54 Unity promotes survival38:11 Spirituality encourages societal healing42:48 Transformation in ongoing trauma47:46 Cultivating a healthy dynamic for change52:00 The need for larger-scale rituals for trauma recovery---------------Dr. Ruby Gibson has spent the past 40 years dedicated to the craft and science of Historical Trauma reconciliation, cultural healing, and generational well-being among Native and Indigenous Peoples. Dr. Gibson founded Freedom Lodge, a 501(c)3 nonprofit organization, in Rapid City, SD to serve our relatives and communities. Dr. Gibson developed the transgenerational trauma recovery model Somatic Archaeology©. and is the author of My Body, My Earth, The Practice of Somatic Archaeology, and My Body, My Breath, A Tool for Transformation, which are available in English, Romanian, and Spanish. Dr. Gibson developed and teaches a Historical Trauma Master Class, and builds leadership skills in Native Wellness amongst the graduates. She also teaches a Somatic Archaeology© Master Class for non—Native students. Using our Body and Mother Earth as benevolent sources of biological, emotional, and ancestral memory, Dr. Ruby’s techniques are being evaluated and researched among her students with amazing effectiveness. Get in touch with Dr. Ruby Gibson here:Website: https://rubygibson.com/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/freedomlodge7/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/freedomlodgeinc/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/freedom-lodge-41b44a103/YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@freedomlodge3291---------------Thomas Hübl is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator whose lifelong work integrates the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since 2004, he has taught and facilitated programs with more than 100,000 people worldwide, including online courses which he began offering in 2008. The origin of his work and more than two decades of study and practice on healing collective trauma is detailed in his book Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural WoundsConnect with Thomas here:Website: https://thomashuebl.com/Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/Instagram/Twitter: @thomashueblYouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashueblSign up for updates by visiting our website:👉 pointofrelationpodcast.comGet to know The Pocket Project:👉 https://pocketproject.org/

Thomas Hübl explores how trauma changes our experience of time, and how integration and acceptance can help us create a better future. When traumatic events occur in the present moment, we become overwhelmed, and our experience of "presence" is split, pushing the trauma into the subconscious realm. He explains that our compartmentalized trauma is like a data package that becomes stuck in the past, interrupting the flow of time like a rock in a river. As we go through life, we experience tension, numbness, and absence-- repetitive difficulties influenced by the trauma embedded in our past. Thomas provides insight into how we can embrace and integrate our pain and our defense mechanisms, and how that is a more healing and effective way to create change than trying to get rid of them.Key Points:01:05 The notion of presence and integrated history 05:13 How trauma is compartmentalized 08:52 Fragmented data becomes repetitive patterns 11:38 Projecting the future 18:42 Onboard the past for a better future 21:11 Cultivate a fertile land for inner change----------------Thomas Hübl is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator whose lifelong work integrates the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since 2004, he has taught and facilitated programs with more than 100,000 people worldwide, including online courses which he began offering in 2008. The origin of his work and more than two decades of study and practice on healing collective trauma is detailed in his book Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural WoundsConnect with Thomas here:Website: https://thomashuebl.com/Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/Instagram/Twitter: @thomashueblYouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashueblSign up for updates by visiting our website:👉 pointofrelationpodcast.com 

Thomas is joined by restorative justice facilitator and public speaker sujatha baliga. They discuss Restorative Justice - a term coined by Howard Zehr that represents a paradigm shift in the way we think about harm and wrongdoing. It calls us to eschew the extreme and ineffective punitiveness of the criminal justice system in favor of community-based processes that align with our interdependent nature. Sujatha explains how her methods were inspired by three groups - the Mennonites, the Navajo tribe, and the Buddhist Nalanda tradition. She reveals that her work is not only more effective in addressing the root causes of crime, and reducing repeated incidents of harm, but is also planting seeds for a radically more just future.Key Points:01:48 Sujatha’s journey to her advocacy08:18 Restorative justice vs. the current justice system11:40 What it means to be well-resourced16:52 Restorative justice is sustainable19:57 The factors to facilitate a restorative process25:56 The responsibility of the oppressed34:12 Transformation starts within us37:40 How can communities contribute?44:25 Addressing collective issues with restorative justice---------------sujatha baliga’s work is characterized by an equal dedication to people who’ve experienced and caused harm and violence. A former victim advocate and public defender, sujatha is a frequent guest lecturer at universities and conferences about her decades of restorative justice work. She also speaks publicly and inside prisons about her own experiences as a survivor of child sexual abuse and her path to forgiveness. Her personal and research interests include the forgiveness of seemingly unforgivable acts, survivor-led movements, restorative justice’s potential impact on racial disparities in our legal systems, and Buddhist approaches to conflict transformation. She’s a member of the Gyuto Foundation in Richmond, CA, where she leads meditation on Monday nights. She was named a 2019 MacArthur Fellow.Website: https://www.sujathabaliga.com/Twitter & Instagram: @sujathabaligaLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sujatha-baliga-9813184/----------------Thomas Hübl is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator whose lifelong work integrates the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since 2004, he has taught and facilitated programs with more than 100,000 people worldwide, including online courses which he began offering in 2008. The origin of his work and more than two decades of study and practice on healing collective trauma is detailed in his book Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural WoundsConnect with Thomas:Website: https://thomashuebl.com/Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/Instagram/Twitter: @thomashueblYouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashueblSign up for updates by visiting our website:👉 pointofrelationpodcast.com

Please note that this episode was recorded during the first months of the war in Ukraine, and William and Thomas' commentary is relevant to that time. Since then, circumstances may have changed.Humiliation is reflected in most major historical events, especially in wars.Throughout the centuries, humans continue to be stuck in the same pattern of humiliation. And it has become even more significant in the present.With COVID-19 bringing a sense of interconnectedness and the whole world tuning in to the Russian-Ukrainian conflict, author and anthropologist William Ury dissects the root cause of this cycle. He explains that empathy is our most powerful tool in negotiation, as it enables us to understand our "opponents" and communicate with them effectively.*Please note that this episode was recorded during the first months of the war in Ukraine, and William and Thomas' commentary is relevant to that time. Since then, circumstances may have changed.*Key points include:✔️ How doing our inner work helps us to act more effectively toward the betterment of the collective ✔️ Using strategic empathy to better understand an “opponent” and find a constructive way out of conflict ✔️ How both COVID-19 and the war in Ukraine galvanized the world and made us aware of our interconnectedness ✔️ Fear and crises tune our collective instrument, and we can use them as an opportunity for positive transformation ✔️ Being a “possible-ist” - someone who can see both negative and positive possibilities and potentials, and can act accordingly to move situations in a positive direction---------------William Ury is one of the world’s leading experts on negotiation and mediation. As the co-founder of the Program on Negotiation, he is a driving force behind many new negotiation theories and practices. Ury is the co-author with Roger Fisher and Bruce Patton of Getting to Yes, a 15-million-copy bestseller translated into more than 35 languages, and the author of several other books including the award-winning Getting to Yes with Yourself.Over the last four decades, Ury has served as a negotiation advisor and mediator in conflicts ranging from the Cold War to ethnic and civil wars in the Middle East, Chechnya, Yugoslavia, and most recently in Colombia, where he serves as a senior advisor to President Juan Manuel Santos. In addition to teaching negotiation and mediation to tens of thousands of executives, Ury is the founder of the Abraham Path Initiative, which seeks to bring people together across cultures by opening a long-distance walking route in the Middle East that retraces the footsteps of Abraham and his family. In recognition of his work, he has received the Cloke-Millen Peacemaker Award, the Whitney North Seymour Award from the American Arbitration Association, and the Distinguished Service Medal from the Russian Parliament.---------------Thomas Hübl is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator whose lifelong work integrates the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since 2004, he has taught and facilitated programs with more than 100,000 people worldwide, including online courses which he began offering in 2008. The origin of his work and more than two decades of study and practice on healing collective trauma is detailed in his book Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural WoundsConnect with Thomas here:Website: https://thomashuebl.com/Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/Instagram/Twitter: @thomashueblYouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashueblSign up for updates by visiting our website:👉 pointofrelationpodcast.com

In this episode, Thomas explores the concept of Ancestral Healing - a way of attuning with our ancestors and integrating the information they’ve passed down through our family histories. We inherit wisdom and resilience from our ancestors, as well as trauma and pain. Thomas explains the need to incorporate all of these aspects into ourselves so that we can draw strength from our ancestral data flow when we need it, and learn from their wounds and transgressions in order to release ourselves and our families from patterns that no longer serve us.Key Points:00:24 Decentralizing the focus of hyper-individualism04:52 Our bodies carry ancestral data08:20 Trauma is generationally transmitted11:55 Exploring the difficult parts of the past14:38 Liquefying the past is personal development---------------Thomas Hübl is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator whose lifelong work integrates the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since 2004, he has taught and facilitated programs with more than 100,000 people worldwide, including online courses which he began offering in 2008. The origin of his work and more than two decades of study and practice on healing collective trauma is detailed in his book Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural WoundsConnect with Thomas here:Website: https://thomashuebl.com/Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/Instagram/Twitter: @thomashueblYouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashueblSign up for updates by visiting our website:👉 pointofrelationpodcast.com

Thomas and celebrated international speaker, post-humanist thinker, and author Bayo Akomolafe delve into the pitfalls of modernity and modern psychology, and the need for new ways of navigating hidden and invisible thresholds. Bayo discusses his work tracing stories, folklore, and archetypes and how they invite us to do something akin to activism - a sensorial politics that he refers to as “post-activism.” They discuss the need for fresh modes of responding to crises that can invite us to develop new intelligences.Key Points:01:00 Parenting & disruptions of time and space10:36 New Institute Fellowship15:00 Bayo’s upcoming book18:46 What is post-activism?24:52 The response to the crisis is part of the crisis31:14 Psychology is the policeman of capitalism39:17 A new perspective on politics47:33 Losing our way in order to create change----------------Bayo Akomolafe (Ph.D.), rooted with the Yoruba people in a more-than-human world, is the father to Alethea and Kyah, the grateful life-partner to Ije, son and brother. A widely celebrated international speaker, posthumanist thinker, poet, teacher, public intellectual, essayist, and author of two books, These Wilds Beyond our Fences: Letters to My Daughter on Humanity’s Search for Home (North Atlantic Books) and We Will Tell our Own Story: The Lions of Africa Speak. Bayo Akomolafe is the Founder of The Emergence Network and host of the online post-activist course, ‘We Will Dance with Mountains’. He currently lectures at Pacifica Graduate Institute, California, and the University of Vermont, Burlington, Vermont. He sits on the Board of many organizations including Science and Non-Duality (US) and Local Futures (Australia). In July 2022, Dr. Akomolafe was appointed the inaugural Global Senior Fellow of the University of California’s (Berkeley) Othering and Belonging Institute. He has also been appointed Senior Fellow for The New Institute in Hamburg, Germany.Website: bayoakomolafe.net----------------Thomas Hübl is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator whose lifelong work integrates the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since 2004, he has taught and facilitated programs with more than 100,000 people worldwide, including online courses which he began offering in 2008. The origin of his work and more than two decades of study and practice on healing collective trauma is detailed in his book Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural WoundsConnect with Thomas here:Website: https://thomashuebl.com/Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/Instagram/Twitter: @thomashueblYouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashueblSign up for updates by visiting our website:👉 pointofrelationpodcast.com 

Thomas talks with award-winning documentary filmmaker Deeyah Khan about her experience of interviewing extremists. Rather than dismissing them as unreachable fanatics, Deeyah has decided to engage them directly as human beings, with respect for our common humanity. She and Thomas reflect on how to remain hopeful and empathetic amidst the social divisiveness of our time.Multi-award-winning filmmaker Deeyah Khan has directed documentaries such as “Banaz: A Love Story (2012)” and “White Right: Meeting The Enemy (2017)”, which have shed light on the heartbreaking reality of discrimination and violence while telling people’s compelling stories through a loving lens.Dehumanizing others causes us to lose our humanity. Do you have the courage to open your mind and remain hopeful for change?Key Points:2:57 Deeyah’s purpose in filmmaking12:56 Why the focus on dark, brutal topics?17:57 When the unexpected becomes a lifesaver21:51 Authenticity is healing24:59 Dehumanizing others means dehumanizing yourself29:20 On making “White Right”38:51 Change is always possible43:43 Extremism lures the broken49:50 Learn to sit with the darkness52:55 Love conquers all59:46 One simple step creates the biggest impact1:03:09 Dealing with a polarized world---------------Deeyah Khan is a Norwegian multi-awarded documentary film director and human rights activist. Her debut film, Banaz: A Love Story (2012) won an Emmy and a Peabody. She is the founder and CEO of Fuuse, a leading documentary film and digital media company for broadcasters and live events. She is also the founder and editor-in-chief of Sister-Hood Magazine, spotlighting the diverse voices of women of Muslim heritage. She became the UNESCO Goodwill Ambassador for Artistic Freedom and Creativity in 2016.Website: deeyah.comTwitter: @Deeyah_Khan Instagram: @deeyahkhanFacebook: facebook.com/Deeyah.deeyah---------------Thomas Hübl is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator whose lifelong work integrates the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since 2004, he has taught and facilitated programs with more than 100,000 people worldwide, including online courses which he began offering in 2008. The origin of his work and more than two decades of study and practice on healing collective trauma is detailed in his book Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural WoundsConnect with Thomas here:Website: https://thomashuebl.com/Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/Instagram/Twitter: @thomashueblYouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashueblSign up for updates by visiting our website:👉 pointofrelationpodcast.com 

Thomas Hübl explores the concept of Transparent Communication - a practice that creates an open and grounded relational space where constructive and creative communication can occur. He explains that this form of communication combines the interconnected data streams of cognitive, emotional, and physical information that are always present in any conversation. When we become attuned to these transmissions from others' nervous systems, and are consciously creating coherent transmissions from our own, we can establish a deep connection that's rich in intimacy and free from reactivity.Key Points:✔️ Relating is an intimate process✔️ Trauma fragments effective communication✔️ Transparent communication is contemplative✔️ Refine your response to external factors✔️ Transparent communication trains our self-awareness---------------Thomas Hübl is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator whose lifelong work integrates the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since 2004, he has taught and facilitated programs with more than 100,000 people worldwide, including online courses which he began offering in 2008. The origin of his work and more than two decades of study and practice on healing collective trauma is detailed in his book Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural WoundsConnect with Thomas here:thomashuebl.comYouTubeFacebookInstagramTwitterSign up for updates by visiting our website:👉 pointofrelationpodcast.com

Thomas Hübl is joined by seasoned author and clinician Deb Dana and the founder of the Polyvagal Theory (PVT) Dr. Stephen Porges for a lively discussion about the essence of PVT, the importance of human connection to the mind and body, and their methods of self-regulation for trauma survivors.What You Will Discover: ✔️ The Polyvagal Theory is about human connection.Dr. Stephen Porges goes deep into the Polyvagal Theory and its core essence, describing how human socialization can prevent modern stress-related disorders. He explains how modern society demands that people constantly exist in a threatened state, causing them to lose connection to their bodily cues and reducing their ability to regulate with others. “Social interaction isn’t just psychological behavior; it’s also neurophysiological.”✔️ Stress and trauma cause dissociation.Learning how to safely come back into our bodies after dissociation is a slow process, as shared by Deb Dana. Trauma survivors have acclimated to removing themselves from the present situation because of repeated painful events. Deb Dana teaches her clients to recognize their bodies’ ways of determining threat and safety.✔️ Have a micro-moment of regulation.How do people who have experienced traumatic and dangerous situations throughout their lives return to a state of self-regulation? Deb Dana helps clients navigate through their map of disconnection. The earlier we recognize the 'warning' signs of dysregulation, the less mental and physical energy we'll need in order to return to a more regulated baseline.✔️ Honor your body’s ability to regulate itself.Dr. Stephen Porges points out that our bodies have their own ways of signaling to us that there’s something wrong. It's important to pay attention to our bodies and acknowledge what they're trying to teach us.✔️ Our patterns of protection are shaped throughout our life.Due to trauma and constant exposure to painful situations, we have developed patterns of protection that we immediately employ when we sense even the slightest dangers. Getting stuck in this constant cycle of shielding oneself inhibits one from enjoying life.✔️ Recognize your body’s signs of a warning and a welcome.Dr. Stephen Porges and Deb Dana share ideas about how to remain in a state of regulation and how to differentiate a 'warning' from a 'welcome' sign. People have been programmed to mobilize, complete tasks, and maximize productivity in the modern world - without considering their mental and physiological state. This constant inhibition of bodily cues disconnects us from our physical form.---------------Deb Dana, LCSW is an author, clinician, and consultant specializing in using the lens of polyvagal theory to understand and resolve the impact of trauma and create ways of working that honor the role of the autonomic nervous system. She developed The Rhythm of Regulation Clinical Training Series, and lectures internationally on ways polyvagal theory informs work with trauma survivors. She partners with Sounds True through the audio program, Befriending Your Nervous System: Looking Through the Lens of Polyvagal Theory, and her forthcoming book, titled Anchored: How to Befriend Your Nervous System Using Polyvagal Theory. ---------------Dr. Stephen Porges is a distinguished university scientist at Indiana University, where he is the founding director of the Traumatic Stress Research Consortium. He is a Professor of Psychiatry at the University of North Carolina and Professor Emeritus at both the University of Illinois at Chicago and the University of Maryland. He is the originator of the Polyvagal Theory, a theory that emphasizes the importance of the physiological state in the expression of behavioral, mental, and health problems related to traumatic experiences.---------------Thomas Hübl is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator whose lifelong work integrates the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since 2004, he has taught and facilitated programs with more than 100,000 people worldwide, including online courses which he began offering in 2008. The origin of his work and more than two decades of study and practice on healing collective trauma is detailed in his book Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural WoundsConnect with Thomas here:thomashuebl.comYouTubeFacebookInstagramTwitter Sign up for updates by visiting our website:👉 pointofrelationpodcast.com

Intergenerational trauma is a huge part of Esther Perels and Jack Saul’s personal histories and work. In today’s podcast, Thomas, Esther, and Jack dig deep into their stories of working with trauma survivors and discuss how creativity, eroticism, and creating new narratives can affect trauma healing, intimate relationships, and the impacts of intergenerational trauma.What You Will Discover: ✔️ Freedom in confinement comes from our imagination.What makes people stay alive? Wherever a person may be, they can use their imagination to take their soul elsewhere. This ability connects us to freedom, even in oppressive environments.✔️ Employ compassionate listening.Jack Saul shares his experience of helping children recover through theatrical improvisation. He explains that children need this opportunity to convey their stories to the public, acknowledging the events that happened in these children’s lives.✔️ Creativity is an active engagement with the unknown.Psychotherapist Esther Perel is the child of Holocaust survivors. She believes her parents worked hard to maintain a sense of aliveness - to establish a place of safety from which they could engage in joy, pleasure, and playfulness. ✔️ How you were loved can impact how you make love.Trauma constricts us from allowing intimate contact. It causes an involuntary recoil, and the mind no longer learns how to trust. Esther Perel explains her work as loosening up a person on every level - from body language to verbal communication. It’s her mission to teach trauma survivors to grant themselves permission to enjoy the emotional and physical satisfaction of their sexual relationships.✔️ New experiences change the meaning of the past.Survivors may shudder at a slight touch, as they have associated the feeling with a traumatic event. To progress in the healing process, they must experience pleasurable contact to erase the negative mental connection.---------------Psychotherapist and New York Times bestselling author, Esther Perel is recognized as one of today’s most insightful and original voices on modern relationships. Fluent in nine languages, she helms a therapy practice in New York City and serves as an organizational consultant for Fortune 500 companies around the world. Her celebrated TED talks have garnered more than 20 million views and her international bestseller Mating in Captivity: Unlocking Erotic Intelligence became a global phenomenon translated into 25 languages. Her newest book is the New York Times bestseller The State of Affairs: Rethinking Infidelity (HarperCollins).---------------Jack Saul is a licensed psychologist, practicing in Manhattan, New York. I trained at the Judge Baker Guidance Center, Harvard Medical School, the Cambridge Family Institute, and the Minuchin Center for the Family. He is a member of the American Family Therapy Academy and the Founding Director of the International Trauma Studies Program. He offers psychotherapy to individuals, couples, and families, and utilizes a family systems orientation emphasizing a narrative, dialogic, and resilience-based approach. His expertise is in working with individuals with relationship challenges, anxiety, depression, PTSD, trauma and traumatic loss, complicated grief, life and work stress, childhood fears and behavioral and academic difficulties, parenting, intimacy, desire, and sex in couples. ---------------Thomas Hübl is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator whose lifelong work integrates the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since 2004, he has taught and facilitated programs with more than 100,000 people worldwide, including online courses which he began offering in 2008. The origin of his work and more than two decades of study and practice on healing collective trauma is detailed in his book Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural WoundsConnect with Thomas here:thomashuebl.comFacebookInstagramTwitterYouTubeSign up for updates by visiting our website:👉 pointofrelationpodcast.com

Thomas Hübl discusses the integration of East and West Germany to demonstrate society’s need for cultural learning spaces - places where people with different cultures and histories of trauma can gather to learn and exchange cultural data. He focuses on how trauma and fragmentation are perpetuated when these digestion spaces don’t exist, and how an integrated culture is better equipped to take on new challenges, like climate change.Key Points:03:02 Culture integration requires work04:12 Learning is data exchange07:37 Integration should be a collective ability10:03 Why countries must invest in cultural integration14:41 Creating collective spaces for sustainability16:08 Cultural learning makes us wiser---------------Thomas Hübl is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator whose lifelong work integrates the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since 2004, he has taught and facilitated programs with more than 100,000 people worldwide, including online courses which he began offering in 2008. The origin of his work and more than two decades of study and practice on healing collective trauma is detailed in his book Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural WoundsConnect with Thomas here:thomashuebl.comFacebookInstagramTwitterSign up for updates by visiting our website:👉 pointofrelationpodcast.com

Humiliation is reflected in most major historical events, especially in wars.Throughout the centuries, humans continue to be stuck in the same pattern of humiliation. And it has become even more significant in the present.Author and negotiation expert William Ury joins Thomas for their second conversation in a three-part series. They discuss how historical traumas contribute to current conflicts, including the ongoing war in Ukraine. William emphasizes the need for compassion, empathy, and inclusion in our individual and collective approaches to bringing about peace and positive change in the world.Tune in to learn more 🎬 watch the full episode of Point of Relation — Embracing Our Interconnected Humanity as an Antidote to War with William UryWhat You Will Discover: ✔️ The secret to peace is us. William Ury breaks down the importance of doing inner work, achieving more awareness and consciousness in the midst of conflict, and creating space for resolution and alternatives.✔️ In the present times of conflict, we need respect. We are all interdependent. By putting ourselves in other people’s shoes and showing positive intent, society can shift and create cycles of mutual respect and safety. ✔️ Force arises from humiliation, but genuine power emerges from humility. What causes humans to replicate the same patterns in history are our buried feelings of humiliation. The only way to break it is to respond in a skillful manner - showing up and remaining humble.✔️ Be a possibilist. Seeing only one side of the coin will never fully heal us from humiliation. The best way is to seek out potential - recognize both positive and negative possibilities so you can act accordingly and move the situation forward.✔️ The balcony perspective allows a deeper connection to the situation. Zooming out gives us the space to ask the right questions. “What’s going on here? Where are we getting stuck? How do we fix this?” Slowly, as we practice empathy, we can heal and rewrite the play in a more constructive direction.---------------William Ury is one of the world’s leading experts on negotiation and mediation. As the co-founder of the Program on Negotiation, he is a driving force behind many new negotiation theories and practices. Ury is the co-author with Roger Fisher and Bruce Patton of Getting to Yes, a 15-million-copy bestseller translated into more than 35 languages, and the author of several other books including the award-winning Getting to Yes with Yourself.Over the last four decades, Ury has served as a negotiation advisor and mediator in conflicts ranging from the Cold War to ethnic and civil wars in the Middle East, Chechnya, Yugoslavia, and most recently in Colombia. In addition to teaching negotiation and mediation to tens of thousands of executives, Ury is the founder of the Abraham Path Initiative, which seeks to bring people together across cultures by opening a long-distance walking route in the Middle East that retraces the footsteps of Abraham and his family. In recognition of his work, he has received the Cloke-Millen Peacemaker Award, the Whitney North Seymour Award from the American Arbitration Association, and the Distinguished Service Medal from the Russian Parliament.---------------Thomas Hübl is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator whose lifelong work integrates the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since 2004, he has taught and facilitated programs with more than 100,000 people worldwide, including online courses which he began offering in 2008. The origin of his work and more than two decades of study and practice on healing collective trauma is detailed in his book Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural WoundsConnect with Thomas here:Website: https://thomashuebl.com/Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashueblTwitter: https://twitter.com/ThomasHuebl YouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashueblSign up for updates by visiting our website:👉 pointofrelationpodcast.com

Exploring the causes of sickness, author and renowned physician Dr. Gabor Maté explores how the trauma ingrained in modern society manifests as illness and pulls us away from our authentic selves, and how we can lessen our attachment to “normalcy” in order to foster both individual and collective healing and create a more equitable and awakened future.Tune in to Point of Relation — The Undeniable Link of Illness & Wellbeing to Our Collective Ecosystem with Dr. Gabor Maté.Key Points To Discover:✔️ In the revolutionary book "The Myth of Normal: Trauma, Illness and Healing in a Toxic Culture," Dr. Gabor Maté argues that our culture has become so disconnected from the real needs of people that what we assume to be "normal" is, in fact, neither healthy nor natural. Dr. Maté distinctly articulates that "normal" is a myth. He presents that every individual's response to conditions, such as addictions, depression, and physical illnesses, are, in fact, normal responses to the abnormal social and environmental conditions they face. Therefore, the conditions that are the source of the abnormality need to be addressed instead of the individual.✔️ We are co-creators of our reality.Connection is a necessity for human life that, when unfulfilled, brings about suffering. In the modern world, where we push and strive for the attainment of the individual, we must remember that we can only exist within the collective experience. ✔️ Do you feel that true healing is impossible for you? Dr. Maté shares that in his journey, he too believed that no matter how hard he tried, he was incapable of completely healing his pains. But he believes that healing is possible for all of us. In his words, “In order to accomplish that healing, we have to really come face to face with the depth and extent of the trauma in our world, not to despair over it, but precisely so that we can gain agency.”✔️ The illness of an individual is the manifestation of a collective phenomenon. When an individual becomes ill, the Lakota tradition teaches that the community extends gratefulness and that sickness manifests to uncover shared dysfunction. This gives way to the belief that "Your healing is our healing."Dr. Maté emphasizes the traditional wisdom that works with interdependent medicine is just as applicable to our modern world as it was in ancient times. Yet, sadly, medical practice often fails to acknowledge the science that confirms this.---------------Dr. Gabor Maté is an internationally renowned speaker highly sought after for his expertise on addiction, trauma, childhood development, and the relationship between stress and illness. He is a bestselling author of four books published in over thirty languages. His book on addiction received the Hubert Evans Prize for literary non-fiction.For his groundbreaking medical work and writing, he has been awarded the Order of Canada, his country's highest civilian distinction, and the Civic Merit Award from his hometown, Vancouver. His books include In the Realm of Hungry Ghosts: Close Encounters With Addiction; When the Body Says No; The Cost of Hidden Stress; Scattered Minds: The Origins and Healing of Attention Deficit Disorder; and (with Dr. Gordon Neufeld) Hold on to Your Kids: Why Parents Need to Matter More Than Peers. His recent book, The Myth of Normal: Trauma, Illness & Healing in a Toxic Culture, was released on September 13, 2022. His second next book, Hello Again: A Fresh Start for Parents and Their Adult Children, is expected in 2023. Gabor is also a co-developer of a therapeutic approach, Compassionate Inquiry, now studied by hundreds of therapists, physicians, counselors, and others internationally. Connect with Dr. Gabor Maté:Website: www.drgabormate.comFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/drgabormateTwitter: https://twitter.com/drgabormateInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/gabormatemd/Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCsRF06lSFA8zV9L8_x9jzIA---------------Thomas Hübl is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator whose lifelong work integrates the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since 2004, he has taught and facilitated programs with more than 100,000 people worldwide, including online courses which he began offering in 2008. The origin of his work and more than two decades of study and practice on healing collective trauma is detailed in his book Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural WoundsConnect with Thomas here:Website: https://thomashuebl.com/Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashueblTwitter: https://twitter.com/ThomasHuebl YouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashueblSign up for updates by visiting our website:👉 pointofrelationpodcast.com

As the world transitions away from domination hierarchies and into democracies, our human systems naturally let go of inner wounds and feel safer.However, disruptors still arise. Gender inequality and racism are stressors in our society. The tension over these issues can make our current democracy appear chaotic.But these systemic issues must surface and be addressed in order to ignite our individual and collective healing, and allow humanity to achieve a higher level of coherence.Key Points:04:38 Why detoxification is necessary07:59 The need for safe spaces11:18 Trauma and achieving coherence17:03 The power of collective intelligence18:30 The call for state-funded collective spaces20:01 Keeping the flow alive21:56 The Pocket Project---------------Sign up for updates by visiting our website:👉 pointofrelationpodcast.comThomas Hübl is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator whose lifelong work integrates the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since 2004, he has taught and facilitated programs with more than 100,000 people worldwide, including online courses which he began offering in 2008. The origin of his work and more than two decades of study and practice on healing collective trauma is detailed in his book Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural WoundsConnect with Thomas here:Website: https://thomashuebl.com/Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/Instagram/Twitter: @thomashueblYouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashueblGet to know The Pocket Project:👉 https://pocketproject.org/

"The single biggest block to getting a yes in any kind of conflict is yourself,” says author and expert negotiator William Ury.In this episode, William Ury shares his expertise in demonstrating spaciousness and empathy in conflict-laden situations, mediation as an intrapersonal exercise, and dissecting trauma in an unsettled society.▶️ Practicing Spaciousness and Empathy for Conflict Mediation with William UryKey Points to Discover: ✔️ Practice the palm pinching technique. Standing in the middle of conflict can be terrifying. Step back and find perspective within by pinching your palm. “It gives you momentary pain, but it’ll keep you alert,” William Ury retells.✔️Befriend your emotions. Trauma brings about emotions we perceive as negative – such as anger, resentment, jealousy, hatred, and fear.William Ury says, “Befriend these emotions. Welcome them. Don’t judge them. Host them. Don’t suppress them.” Every emotion contains a message. If we’re open and paying attention, we can better understand it.✔️ Conflicts have three sides. The third side is called the whole – the larger community to which the two parties belong. “It’s not a conflict between individual A and individual B. It’s a collective,” he explains. This unseen side holds a huge responsibility to mediate and gather the two parties to reach a resolution.✔️ Empathy requires putting yourself in your own shoes. It’s hard to put yourself in others’ shoes when you have preconceived ideas about them.Be in a place of clarity and gather as much information as you can about the conflicts you witness. This is where real and deep empathy begins.✔️ The absent parts of ourselves are filled with the past. When we aren’t fully integrated with the painful experiences of others, it blocks us from developing genuine empathy, and we might instead find that we’re filled with fear, physical tension, and numbness. Healing from intergenerational trauma requires us to feel the fears of our ancestors – merging them into our present flow. This allows us to cultivate greater empathy for the people in our lives.✔️ Mediation means seeing a way forward. Finding the way forward in conflict calls for inner spaciousness. As a mediator, William Ury recommends taking a step back and viewing the situation from what he calls “going to the balcony” - a removed position from which we can be more present, empathetic, and objective. Take off the blinders of your own biases and see the larger picture.---------------William Ury is one of the world’s leading experts on negotiation and mediation. As the co-founder of the Program on Negotiation, he is a driving force behind many new negotiation theories and practices. Ury is the co-author with Roger Fisher and Bruce Patton of Getting to Yes, a 15-million-copy bestseller translated into more than 35 languages, and the author of several other books including the award-winning Getting to Yes with Yourself.Over the last four decades, Ury has served as a negotiation advisor and mediator in conflicts ranging from the Cold War to ethnic and civil wars in the Middle East, Chechnya, Yugoslavia, and most recently in Colombia, where he serves as a senior advisor to President Juan Manuel Santos. In addition to teaching negotiation and mediation to tens of thousands of executives, Ury is the founder of the Abraham Path Initiative, which seeks to bring people together across cultures by opening a long-distance walking route in the Middle East that retraces the footsteps of Abraham and his family. In recognition of his work, he has received the Cloke-Millen Peacemaker Award, the Whitney North Seymour Award from the American Arbitration Association, and the Distinguished Service Medal from the Russian Parliament.---------------Sign up for updates by visiting our website pointofrelationpodcast.com.Thomas Hübl is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator whose lifelong work integrates the core insights of the great wisdom traditions with the discoveries of science. The focus of his work is collective trauma and global healing.Webpage: https://thomashuebl.com/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.SanghaLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/thomashuebl/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/thomashueblTwitter: https://twitter.com/thomasHuebl"Healing Collective Trauma" is the book by Thomas, published in five languages: https://www.collectivetraumabook.com

What are legacy burdens?These are ingrained parts of us that involve extreme beliefs and emotions coming from traumatic experiences inherited from family or other people.This is mostly experienced by people in marginalized groups. And unpacking them takes courage, acknowledgment, and a safe space to open up.Listen as Dr. Richard Schwartz and Deran Young share their expertise and experiences in navigating through intergenerational trauma and un-learning past beliefs.▶️Unpacking Legacy Burdens through Collective Spaces with Deran Young & Dr. Richard SchwartzKey Points To Discover:✔️ Your trauma isn’t your identity. When your pained inner child starts to hijack your emotions, it’s important to separate it and allow your higher self to take over. “That one part of us doesn’t have to dominate our life,” Deran Young says.✔️Foster a culture of healing in shared spaces. While some are far in their journey of inner work, others still need an extra boost.  What are the rules in the communal space? How do we respect each other? How do we honor our differences and similarities? It’s important for all to feel a sense of comfort and belonging when it’s time to unpack trauma.✔️ Identify your “exiles”.  These vulnerable parts greatly impacted by trauma are called “exiles” – our spaces for creativity and desire that were hurt and are pushed away. This makes us feel like we’ve moved on. But in reality, these “exiles” still have an underground influence over our decisions and overall worldview.✔️ The best healing happens in collective spaces. It’s normal to feel alone when grappling with deep trauma. This is why Deran Young recommends looking for groups where you can share your experience and feel a sense of community. This is where people can start to acknowledge their trauma and speak more compassionately to themselves.✔️ Everyone deserves access to healing. Economically marginalized places may not have access to the tools needed to treat inner wounds. Forms of psychedelic-assisted therapy – trauma healing using natural resources from the land – have existed for generations. Each person in the world has the right to utilize it for their improvement.✔️Bring your exiled parts back home and reconnect. Dr. Richard Schwartz emphasizes that we shouldn’t disconnect these traumatized parts of ourselves, but rather recognize and acknowledge their presence for healing to take place.---------------Dr. Richard Schwartz began his career as a systemic family therapist and an academic. Grounded in systems thinking, Dr. Schwartz developed Internal Family Systems (IFS) in response to clients’ descriptions of various parts within themselves. He focused on the relationships among these parts and noticed that there were systemic patterns to the way they were organized across clients. He also found that when the clients’ parts felt safe and were allowed to relax, the clients would spontaneously experience the qualities of confidence, openness, and compassion that Dr. Schwartz came to call the Self. He found that when in that state of Self, clients would know how to heal their parts.A featured speaker for national professional organizations, Dr. Schwartz has published many books and over fifty articles about IFS.---------------Deran Young, LCSW, MPA, has served in the US Air Force for over sixteen years. She is a world traveler and has visited over thirty-two countries and provided counseling services in three different nations in Europe and Africa. Her clinical training and experiences have primarily focused on trauma, PTSD, depression, anxiety, child abuse, and domestic violence.Deran is the founder and CEO of Black Therapists Rock (BTR), an organization committed to improving the social and psychological well-being of vulnerable communities, while also providing vital support to mental health professionals who serve these communities. Deran is passionate about spreading information on mental health challenges that impact our communities. Recently, she was featured in the Huffington Post as one of the “10 Black Female Therapists You Should Know.” Learn more at www.blacktherapistsrock.com---------------Sign up for updates by visiting our website pointofrelationpodcast.com.Thomas Hübl is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator whose lifelong work integrates the core insights of the great wisdom traditions with the discoveries of science. The focus of his work is collective trauma and global healing.Webpage: https://thomashuebl.com/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.SanghaLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/thomashuebl/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/thomashueblTwitter: https://twitter.com/thomasHuebl"Healing Collective Trauma" is the book by Thomas, published in five languages: https://www.collectivetraumabook.com

Are you brave enough to go beyond the threshold of conventional understanding? Would you be willing to go deeper into the unseen territory of humanity? Or do you just have burning questions about the meaning of life events?You’re in the right place. The Point of Relation is where you need to be to reach your contemplative perspective and uncover the layers of human existence.Tune in to learn more 🎬 watch the full episode of Point of Relation — Welcome to Point of RelationWhat You Will Discover: ✔️ Life is a constant process of finding out, like data streaming. It involves downloading information and processing it at the same time. Tapping into this ability leads us to the sweet spot of maturity. We start to relate every moment in our daily lives to our intelligence and compassion.✔️ Be inspired by special guests. This is your chance to hop into this meaningful space. Here, we get intimate with speakers of various expertise to dissect our common struggles and pressing life issues and discover answers to our existential curiosities.✔️ Answer life’s toughest questions. In difficult situations, distancing ourselves becomes our first move because we lack the skills to navigate through them. Let go of the fear of uncertainty. It’s time to walk closer to the drumbeat of life and discover the reality of our own becoming.✔️ We have the power to impact and co-design our world. Life has never been a walk in the park. Find out your true identity and shape amazing moments as you contribute to the nourishment of others. Be at the edge where life is most exciting.✔️ The point of relation is the alchemy of inspiration. Let’s create a space where we can work to address the current challenges of our world and the big wounds of our shared past. Ignite conversations where sparks fly, and enter into a field of resonance with others.✔️ Cultivate the process of inquiry. With contemplative and creative inquiry, we can deeply feel and think precisely with discernment and clarity. Learning isn’t simply reading about a subject. It also involves connecting ourselves to the knowledge that we’re absorbing.Sign up for updates by visiting our website: pointofrelationpodcast.com.

We are incredibly excited to launch our new podcast – 𝐏𝐎𝐈𝐍𝐓 𝐎𝐅 𝐑𝐄𝐋𝐀𝐓𝐈𝐎𝐍. In these episodes, Global Healing Facilitator Thomas Huebl aims to explore the ancient and contemporary topics melding in the zeitgeist of our time and find the sweet spot of our relational experience. ✴ Here is a space we behold and can bravely explore the boundaries of that which we already know. ✴ Here is where we can learn more about how our lives intersect with the future and observe the convergence of the conscious and unconscious realms. ✴ Here is where we enter an expanded territory coming into a place of freshness, innovation, and inspiration.By doing this together, through the episodes of this podcast, we can find a greater understanding of life and take away learning that we may not have even known we wanted or needed. Ultimately, Thomas aims to leave us each feeling uplifted, energized, connected, and creative.🎙️ https://pointofrelationpodcast.com/ #Transformation #Abundance #Scarcity————————————————————————————————Thomas Hübl is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator whose lifelong work integrates the core insights of the great wisdom traditions with the discoveries of science. The focus of his work is collective trauma and global healing. Webpage: https://thomashuebl.com/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.SanghaLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/thomashuebl/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/thomashueblTwitter: https://twitter.com/thomasHuebl "Healing Collective Trauma" is an award winning book by Thomas, published in five languages. https://www.collectivetraumabook.com