Point of Relation with Thomas Huebl

“For complex PTSD, you have to establish a relationship. And only after trust has been established can you do the trauma-focused work.”This week, Thomas sits down with Dr. Judith Lewis Herman, an author and senior lecturer in psychiatry and Harvard Medical School, to explore her groundbreaking work on the psychology and social and cultural aspects of Complex PTSD, or CPTSD. Unlike the better-known diagnosis of PTSD, CPTSD arises from prolonged, repeated trauma that erodes one’s sense of self and ability to trust.So, how should we approach healing and therapy for this uniquely challenging diagnosis?Dr. Herman believes there is hope, and it comes from the healing power of relationships…a tough pill to swallow for those whose trauma arose from abusive or coercively controlling relationships. But therein lies the key to healing—a therapeutic bond where the patient’s experience is validated, their safety is paramount, and trust is carefully built up through mutuality.But it’s not just therapy where healing can occur. Thomas and Dr. Herman discuss the importance of acknowledgment for people who’ve experienced ongoing trauma and how lifting shame from victims and survivors and transferring it to the perpetrators is an essential shift with powerful healing potential. They also explore social movements, like the women's and civil rights movements, that can lead to helpful reforms and the development of new support systems for trauma survivors.✨ Click here to watch the video version of this episode on YouTube:👉 https://youtu.be/HcTmrzBQ2GUVideo episodes are typically posted at 8am PT/ 11am ET✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website: 👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com ✨ Judith Lewis Herman, M.D., is a Senior Lecturer in Psychiatry at Harvard Medical School and was Director of Training at the Victims of Violence Program at Cambridge Hospital. She is the author of multiple award-winning books, including Truth and Repair: How Trauma Survivors Envision Justice. She has received numerous awards, including a Guggenheim Fellowship and the Lifetime Achievement Award from the International Society for Traumatic Stress Studies. In 2007, she was named Distinguished Life Fellow of the American Psychiatric Association.Order Judith's books here:👉 https://www.hachettebookgroup.com/contributor/judith-lewis-herman-mdThomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma. In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University.✨ Connect with Thomas here:Website: https://thomashuebl.com/Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/ Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/ThomasHuebl YouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashuebl✨ Order Thomas Hübl’s newest book, “Attuned: Practicing Interdependence to Heal Our Trauma–And Our World,” here:👉 https://www.attunedbook.com/  ✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website:👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.comTake our listener survey! We'd love your feedback on which topics and guests are resonating with you and which ones you'd like to hear more about in the future:👉 https://forms.gle/uoygyKMmHeUHeJFD9

Are you tired of life feeling heavy, stuck in repetitive patterns dictated by the past? This week, Thomas explores the revolutionary idea that life is a fluid, rewritable process. Discover how awakening to the Kundalini stream connects you to the ever-present flow of creation, allowing you to redefine existence by its pure presence, not a chain of cause and effect. This journey is a continuous path of refining your present experience and embracing movement as the very essence of life, transforming daily challenges into powerful opportunities for deeper insight and presence. Learn spiritual practices and integration tools to help you grapple with the heaviness of the world’s karma, realign with divine creation, and experience profound abundance and freedom.✨ Click here to watch the video version of this episode on YouTube:👉 https://youtu.be/oDuLstjbakkVideo episodes are typically posted at 8am PT/ 11am ET ✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website: 👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com  Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma. In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University.✨ Connect with Thomas here:Website: https://thomashuebl.com/Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/ Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/ThomasHuebl YouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashuebl ✨ Order Thomas Hübl’s new book, “Attuned: Practicing Interdependence to Heal Our Trauma–And Our World” here:👉 https://www.attunedbook.com/   ✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website:👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com Take our listener survey! We'd love your feedback on which topics and guests are resonating with you and which ones you'd like to hear more about in the future:👉 https://forms.gle/uoygyKMmHeUHeJFD9

“Nature positive is people positive. Without harmony with nature, there won't be a bright future for people.”https://pointofrelationpodcast.com/podcast/marco-lambertini-reconnecting-with-naturebefore-its-too-late/This week, Thomas Hübl sits down with Marco Lambertini, the Convener of the Nature Positive Initiative, to explore humanity's deep, inherent connection to nature, what’s at stake if climate destruction continues to accelerate, and what we can do to stop it.Marco’s Nature Positive movement is working on actionable measures to reverse nature loss by 2030, bringing more forests, fish, and healthy ecosystems back to our planet. Despite the massive challenges we’re facing, he believes that we have the understanding, technology, and means to achieve this goal, but we can’t do it without both personal and systemic transformation.The future of our planet’s ecosystem is intrinsically linked to our own well-being, economy, and future. This discussion is a powerful call to action, reminding us that this generation holds the historic opportunity to put humanity on a completely different, more harmonious course. ✨ Click here to watch the video version of this episode on YouTube:👉 https://youtu.be/wwad6NzJx2QVideo episodes are typically posted at 8am PT/ 11am ET ✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website: 👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com ✨ Marco Lambertini is the Convener of the Nature Positive Initiative. His experience and career range from ecological field research to high-level advocacy and international policy, nature reserve management, integrated conservation and development projects, environmental education, NGO development, communications, and campaigning in many countries all over the world.Connect with Marco here:👉 https://www.naturepositive.orgLearn about the Nature Positive Initiative's project to align state of nature metrics here:  👉 https://www.naturepositive.org/metrics And you can read the first ever Nature Positive book  👉 https://www.naturepositive.org/book Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma. In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University.✨ Connect with Thomas here:Website: https://thomashuebl.com/Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/ Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/ThomasHuebl YouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashuebl ✨ Order Thomas Hübl’s new book, “Attuned: Practicing Interdependence to Heal Our Trauma–And Our World” here:👉 https://www.attunedbook.com/   ✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website:👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com Take our listener survey! We'd love your feedback on which topics and guests are resonating with you and which ones you'd like to hear more about in the future:👉 https://forms.gle/uoygyKMmHeUHeJFD9

Can we approach discomfort and tension as opportunities for growth? Can humanity mature beyond divisive conflict?This week, Thomas is joined by much loved returning guest, NYT bestselling author, and the host of the podcast, Pulling the Thread, Elise Loehnen, to hash out the concerning fragmentation that feels inescapable right now and explore what we can do to combat it.As we face past and current collective traumas, massive information overload, and current events that overwhelm our nervous systems, it’s not hard to see how we got here. Thomas and Elise offer hopeful frameworks for navigating these challenges and bolstering our ability to hold tension, engage in mature disagreement, and ultimately, re-humanize each other through deeper understanding and self-regulation. This goes beyond surface-level “wellness” to incorporate psychological, spiritual, and practical approaches that we can adopt to build a stronger foundation for our individual and collective futures. It’s an inspiring conversation that we hope you’ll tune in for.✨ Click here to watch the video version of this episode on YouTube:👉 https://youtu.be/Qf7eBUa8Td4Video episodes are typically posted at 8am PT/ 11am ET✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website: 👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com ✨ Elise Loehnen is a New York Times bestselling author and the host of the podcast, Pulling the Thread, where she interviews cultural luminaries about the big questions of today. She’s the author of the New York Times bestselling On Our Best Behavior: The Seven Deadly Sins and the Price Women Pay to be Good. She has also co-written 12 books. She was the chief content officer of goop, where she co-hosted The goop Podcast and The goop Lab on Netflix, and led the brand’s content strategy and programming. She was previously the editorial projects director of Conde Nast Traveler and the editor at large and deputy editor of Lucky Magazine, where she served as the on-air spokesperson.Connect with Elise here:👉 https://eliseloehnen.com👉  https://eliseloehnen.substack.com Read Elise's workbook, "Choosing Wholeness Over Goodness," for free here 👉https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/771811/choosing-wholeness-over-goodness-by-elise-loehnen-and-courtney-smith/Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma. In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University.✨ Connect with Thomas here:Website: https://thomashuebl.com/Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/ YouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashuebl✨ Order Thomas Hübl’s newest book, “Attuned: Practicing Interdependence to Heal Our Trauma–And Our World” here:👉 https://www.attunedbook.com/  ✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website:👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.comTake our listener survey! We'd love your feedback on which topics and guests are resonating with you and which ones you'd like to hear more about in the future:👉 https://forms.gle/uoygyKMmHeUHeJFD9

Thomas explores the foundational spiritual building blocks of life, with a particular focus on the concept of space. More than just a void that we occupy physically, space is a key element of life that we co-create. And we need space—for reflection, digestion, integration, and nervous system regulation.Get a bigger picture perspective on your spiritual journey and learn essential tools for connecting to your inner wisdom, resilience, compassion, and intelligence.✨ Click here to watch the video version of this episode on YouTube:👉 https://youtu.be/tqIMOvVEk3IVideo episodes are typically posted at 8am PT/ 11am ET✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website: 👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com  Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma. In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University.✨ Connect with Thomas here:Website: https://thomashuebl.com/Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/ Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/ThomasHuebl YouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashuebl ✨ Order Thomas Hübl’s new book, “Attuned: Practicing Interdependence to Heal Our Trauma–And Our World” here:👉 https://www.attunedbook.com/   ✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website:👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com Take our listener survey! We'd love your feedback on which topics and guests are resonating with you and which ones you'd like to hear more about in the future:👉 https://forms.gle/uoygyKMmHeUHeJFD9

What is Polyvagal Theory and how does it explain the science of feelings?This week, Thomas sits down with Dr. Stephen Porges, a professor, author, and the originator of Polyvagal Theory.Dr. Porges’ theory offers radical yet practical methods for calming our physical (or “biobehavioral”) states so that our mind can follow suit. Traditionally, the opposite approach has been the norm, but research increasingly indicates that the body should lead the charge.In this conversation, it’s made clear that safety, connection, and co-regulation are essential for this type of nervous system regulation. Thomas and Dr. Porges explore what’s needed to create an environment that supports healing, and how Polyvagal Theory enhances our ability to handle crises and heal trauma, anxiety, and physical ailments linked to nervous system dysregulation.Dr. Porges also shares a cutting-edge acoustic technique for trauma healing that could lead to a real paradigm shift in psychology and therapy.✨ Click here to watch the video version of this episode on YouTube:👉 https://youtu.be/M1PFXXnXpEYVideo episodes are typically posted at 8am PT/ 11am ET ✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website: 👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com  ✨ Stephen W. Porges, Ph.D. is a Distinguished University Scientist at Indiana University where he is the founding director of the Traumatic Stress Research Consortium in the Kinsey Institute, and recipient of a National Institute of Mental Health Research Scientist Development Award. He is the originator of the Polyvagal Theory, and the creator of a music-based intervention, the Safe and Sound Protocol™.Connect with Dr. Porges here:👉 https://www.polyvagalinstitute.org👉  https://www.stephenporges.comLearn about The Polyvagal Institute Certificate Course: 👉 https://www.polyvagalinstitute.org/pv...Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma. In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University.✨ Connect with Thomas here:Website: https://thomashuebl.com/Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/ Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/ThomasHuebl YouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashuebl ✨ Order Thomas Hübl’s new book, “Attuned: Practicing Interdependence to Heal Our Trauma–And Our World” here:👉 https://www.attunedbook.com/   ✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website:👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com Take our listener survey! We'd love your feedback on which topics and guests are resonating with you and which ones you'd like to hear more about in the future:👉 https://forms.gle/uoygyKMmHeUHeJFD9

“The person doesn't have a soul, the soul has a person.”This week, Thomas goes deep in a spiritual teaching that explores the essence of the soul—an energy field that enfolds our consciousness and our life and is fundamentally connected to the collective and the planet. Through embodied spiritual practice, we can become spacious enough to let in divine light, ground it in the physical world, and open ourselves to subtle capacities and deeper sensing. Using these practices, we also become more resilient to challenges, and can face uncertainty with creative energy instead of anxiety.Thomas also shares how embodied presence is essential to healing and helps to repair the fragmentation that trauma creates. ✨ Click here to watch the video version of this episode on YouTube:👉 https://youtu.be/oVnLzOrW898Video episodes are typically posted at 8am PT/ 11am ET ✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website: 👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com  Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma. In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University.✨ Connect with Thomas here:Website: https://thomashuebl.com/Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/ Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/ThomasHuebl YouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashuebl ✨ Order Thomas Hübl’s new book, “Attuned: Practicing Interdependence to Heal Our Trauma–And Our World” here:👉 https://www.attunedbook.com/   ✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website:👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com Take our listener survey! We'd love your feedback on which topics and guests are resonating with you and which ones you'd like to hear more about in the future:👉 https://forms.gle/uoygyKMmHeUHeJFD9 

Can humanity’s ethical and spiritual maturity catch up to our technological progress? Or will this gap in development lead to catastrophe?To explore our collective path forward, Thomas sits down with Dr. Roger Walsh, a Professor of Psychiatry, Philosophy, and Anthropology, and the host of the Deep Transformation podcast. Their conversation mines the depths of our inner worlds, finding hope in the idea that kindness, generosity, and altruism are more inherent and natural to humans than selfishness, separateness, and over-consumption.Our civilization is at risk, but man-made crises can be unmade by deep collective learning, cultivating inner awareness, embracing ethical living, and integrating historical trauma. Thomas and Dr. Walsh draw insights from global wisdom traditions and share contemplative practices and practical steps that we can take to help humanity “level-up” our maturity and spiritual consciousness. ✨ Click here to watch the video version of this episode on YouTube:👉 https://youtu.be/MZsHpFKAdvIVideo episodes are posted at 8am PT/ 11am ET ✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website: 👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com ✨ Dr. Roger Walsh is a professor of psychiatry at the University of California, a meditation student and researcher, a Tibetan Buddhist Lama, author of books such as Essential Spirituality: The Seven Central Practices, and cohost of the podcast Deep Transformation: Self-Society-Spirit, which is ranked in the top 2% of the world's podcasts.Connect with Dr. Walsh here: 👉  https://www.drrogerwalsh.com    👉  https://www.deeptransformation.io  Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma. In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University.✨ Connect with Thomas here:Website: https://thomashuebl.com/Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/ Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/ThomasHuebl YouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashuebl ✨ Order Thomas Hübl’s new book, “Attuned: Practicing Interdependence to Heal Our Trauma–And Our World” here:👉 https://www.attunedbook.com/   ✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website:👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com Take our listener survey! We'd love your feedback on which topics and guests are resonating with you and which ones you'd like to hear more about in the future:👉 https://forms.gle/uoygyKMmHeUHeJFD9

What if there was a practice that helped us collectively witness and digest world events without becoming overwhelmed, indifferent, or numb? What if this practice could lead to new levels of collective healing?Thomas sits down with Kosha Joubert to discuss this revolutionary practice, called Global Social Witnessing. Kosha is the CEO of the Pocket Project, a non-profit organization co-founded by Thomas that’s dedicated to growing a culture of trauma-informed care.Global Social Witnessing addresses our current lack of societal rituals for processing traumatic world events. It offers a way to move beyond individual overwhelm to collectively face challenges with greater presence, compassion, and agency for positive change. It joins people across borders and cultures to co-regulate and bring an embodied awareness to our collective nervous system. And you can do it from the comfort of your own home!Kosha also shares details about the Pocket Project’s Global Social Witnessing Facilitator Training, which you can learn more about here: https://pocketproject.org/global-social-witnessing-training/?ref=86 Click here to watch the video version of this episode on YouTube:👉 https://youtu.be/H0VXsO9wJj0 ✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website: 👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com  ✨Kosha Anja Joubert serves as CEO of the Pocket Project, dedicated to growing a culture of trauma-informed care. Kosha has worked extensively in the fields of systems regeneration, intercultural collaboration, and trauma-informed leadership. She grew up in South Africa under Apartheid and has been dedicated to transformational edgework ever since. She has authored several books and received the Dadi Janki Award (2017) for engaging spirituality in life and work and the One World Award (2020) for building the Global Ecovillage Network to a worldwide movement reaching out to over 6000 communities on all continents.Connect with Kosha and The Pocket Project here: 👉 https://pocketproject.org/ Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma. In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University.✨ Connect with Thomas here:Website: https://thomashuebl.com/Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/ Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/ThomasHuebl YouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashuebl ✨ Order Thomas Hübl’s new book, “Attuned: Practicing Interdependence to Heal Our Trauma–And Our World” here:👉 https://www.attunedbook.com/   ✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website:👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com Take our listener survey! We'd love your feedback on which topics and guests are resonating with you and which ones you'd like to hear more about in the future:👉 https://forms.gle/uoygyKMmHeUHeJFD9

In this teaching, Thomas Hubl focuses on the heart as not just a physical organ but a central hub for emotional maturity, spiritual development, mind-body integration, and connection to universal intelligence.He offers a guided contemplative practice to lead you into the depth of your heart space so that you can listen deeper to your own truths, integrate mind and body, become a deeper listener for others, and better regulate your nervous system.Click here to watch the video version of this episode on YouTube: 👉 https://youtu.be/KJFL1IDFxvEVideo episodes are posted at 8am Los Angeles / 11am NY ✨ There's still time to enroll in Thomas' new course - Whole-Being Wellness: Aligning Mind, Body, and Spirit for a Vibrant LifeThrough guided practices, reflection tools, and community learning, we will develop new ways to care for ourselves and one another in a time when true well-being is needed more than ever. Expert guest teachers include Dr. Terry Real, Dr. Uma Naidoo, Iya Affo, and Ross Gay. Learn more here:👉 https://www.whole-beingwellness.com Take our listener survey! We'd love your feedback on which topics and guests are resonating with you and which ones you'd like to hear more about in the future:👉 https://forms.gle/uoygyKMmHeUHeJFD9 ✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website: 👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com  Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma. In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University.✨ Connect with Thomas here:Website: https://thomashuebl.com/Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/ Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/ThomasHuebl YouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashuebl ✨ Order Thomas Hübl’s new book, “Attuned: Practicing Interdependence to Heal Our Trauma–And Our World” here:👉 https://www.attunedbook.com/   ✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website:👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com

Can we metabolize our pain to create an entry point into liberation? How can spirituality support us in this process?This week, Thomas sits down with Buddhist minister, author, and activist Lama Rod Owens to share visions for collective liberation, the importance of reconnecting with Indigenous worldviews, sacred ecology, and unseen worlds, and strategies to overcome hopelessness and despair as we work to dismantle harmful systems.They explore the intersection of individual and collective trauma, the connection between spiritual awakening and social justice, and the importance of meeting suffering and discomfort with kindness and presence instead of bypassing it for short-term relief.It’s a wide-ranging and inspiring conversation that bridges the mystical and the practical, and we hope you’ll tune in.Click here to watch the video version of this episode on YouTube:👉 https://youtu.be/l1tRGQPRy3U ✨ Join Thomas’ course - Whole-Being Wellness: Aligning Mind, Body, and Spirit for a Vibrant LifeThrough guided practices, reflection tools, and community learning, we will develop new ways to care for ourselves and one another in a time when true well-being is needed more than ever. Expert guest teachers include Dr. Terry Real, Dr. Uma Naidoo, Iya Affo, and Ross Gay.Learn more and enroll here: 👉 https://www.whole-beingwellness.com✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website: 👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com  ✨ Lama Rod Owens is a Black Buddhist Southern Queen and international influencer with a Master of Divinity degree in Buddhist Studies from Harvard Divinity School. He has over 11 years teaching experience, and is an author of books like Love and Rage: The Path of Liberation through Anger and Radical Dharma: Talking Race, Love and Liberation, which he co-authored. His teachings focus on freedom and radical self-care. Known for his engaging and inclusive approach, he has been featured by various national and international media outlets.Connect with Lama Rod here: 👉 https://www.lamarod.com Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma. In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University.✨ Connect with Thomas here:Website: https://thomashuebl.com/Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/ Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/ThomasHuebl YouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashuebl ✨ Order Thomas Hübl’s new book, “Attuned: Practicing Interdependence to Heal Our Trauma–And Our World” here:👉 https://www.attunedbook.com/   ✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website:👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com Take our listener survey! We'd love your feedback on which topics and guests are resonating with you and which ones you'd like to hear more about in the future:👉 https://forms.gle/uoygyKMmHeUHeJFD9 

Trauma makes it difficult to feel joy, but you CAN experience it again, even if you’re in the early stages of your healing journey.This week, Thomas sits down with trauma researcher, life coach, and the author of Unbroken and The Joy Reset, Dr. MaryCatherine McDonald, to redefine joy, examine how trauma steals it from us, and explore how we can learn to let it into our lives again.Dr. McDonald has identified six “thieves of joy”—coping mechanisms that helped us to survive trauma and hardship, but now make it difficult to relax, let go, and feel the full spectrum of emotions. She shares strategies to release guilt, shame, and hypervigilance and allow good things to happen without bracing for the worst.Dr. McDonald’s newest book, The Joy Reset: Six Ways Trauma Steals Happiness and How to Win it Back, is out now wherever books are sold.  Click here to watch the video version of this episode on YouTube:👉 https://youtu.be/3c7zxjbiNXY ✨ Join Thomas’ course - Whole-Being Wellness: Aligning Mind, Body, and Spirit for a Vibrant LifeThrough guided practices, reflection tools, and community learning, we will develop new ways to care for ourselves and one another in a time when true well-being is needed more than ever. Expert guest teachers include Dr. Terry Real, Dr. Uma Naidoo, Iya Affo, and Ross Gay.Learn more and enroll here: 👉 https://www.whole-beingwellness.com✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website: 👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com  ✨ MaryCatherine McDonald, PhD, is a research professor and life coach who specializes in the psychology of trauma, stress, and resilience. She has been researching, lecturing, and publishing on the neuroscience, psychology, and lived experience of trauma and stress for over a decade. She is passionate about destigmatizing trauma, stress, and mental health issues and reframing our understanding of trauma.Connect with her here: 👉 https://alchemycoaching.life Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma. In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University.✨ Connect with Thomas here:Website: https://thomashuebl.com/Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/ Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/ThomasHuebl YouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashuebl ✨ Order Thomas Hübl’s new book, “Attuned: Practicing Interdependence to Heal Our Trauma–And Our World” here:👉 https://www.attunedbook.com/   ✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website:👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com Take our listener survey! We'd love your feedback on which topics and guests are resonating with you and which ones you'd like to hear more about in the future:👉 https://forms.gle/uoygyKMmHeUHeJFD9 

Thomas explores a holistic, interdependent approach to well-being to help us navigate uncertainty, manage stress, and become a source of stability for ourselves and those around us.In times of global uncertainty, it’s essential that we come together—to pause, reflect, and reconnect. Thomas shares insights and practices to support us in cultivating the inner resilience needed to meet life’s challenges with greater presence, clarity, and care.Now more than ever, we need resilience to remain grounded in stressful moments. Thomas explores how we can strengthen our ability to heal, adapt, and support others, creating a ripple effect that is felt by our friends, loved ones, and ultimately, the whole collective. Click here to watch the video version of this episode on YouTube: 👉 https://youtu.be/VcX4KojOA4A ✨ Enrollment is open for Thomas’ course - Whole-Being Wellness: Aligning Mind, Body, and Spirit for a Vibrant LifeThrough guided practices, reflection tools, and community learning, we will develop new ways to care for ourselves and one another in a time when true well-being is needed more than ever. Expert guest teachers include Dr. Terry Real, Dr. Uma Naidoo, Iya Affo, and Ross Gay. Learn more here:👉 https://www.whole-beingwellness.com Take our listener survey! We'd love your feedback on which topics and guests are resonating with you and which ones you'd like to hear more about in the future:👉 https://forms.gle/uoygyKMmHeUHeJFD9 ✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website: 👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com  Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma. In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University.✨ Connect with Thomas here:Website: https://thomashuebl.com/Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/ Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/ThomasHuebl YouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashuebl ✨ Order Thomas Hübl’s new book, “Attuned: Practicing Interdependence to Heal Our Trauma–And Our World” here:👉 https://www.attunedbook.com/   ✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website:👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com

Thomas is joined by Terry Real, an acclaimed family therapist, bestselling author, and the founder of The Relational Life Institute. Terry shares insights from his years of work with couples and families struggling to repair their relationships, and how practicing what he calls “Relational Mindfulness” is a game-changer for anyone whose past traumas are negatively impacting their current connections.As Terry explains, the work of relationships is not day-by-day; it’s moment-to-moment. And in each challenging moment, we have a choice: give in to our knee-jerk reactions and maladaptive trauma responses, or take a step back so that a more mature part of ourselves can emerge. When we choose presence, collaboration, and interdependence over reactivity, conflict, and toxic individualism, we don’t just heal ourselves and our relationships—we stop the flow of intergenerational trauma in its tracks, and this dynamic shift becomes a part of our legacy.  Click here to watch the video version of this episode on YouTube: 👉 https://youtu.be/mKRZpZ_mQa8Take our listener survey! We'd love your feedback on which topics and guests are resonating with you and which ones you'd like to hear more about in the future:👉 https://forms.gle/uoygyKMmHeUHeJFD9 ✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website: 👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com  Dr. Terry Real has been a practicing family therapist for more than thirty years, and his work has been featured on many major news outlets, TV shows, and in numerous academic publications. His most recent book Us: Getting Past You & Me to Build a More Loving Relationship, is a New York Times Bestseller. Terry founded the Relational Life Institute (RLI), which is dedicated to teaching the general public how to live relational lives and to teaching mental health professionals the practice of Relational Life Therapy.Connect with Dr. Real here: 👉 https://terryreal.com Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma. In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University.✨ Connect with Thomas here:Website: https://thomashuebl.com/Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/ Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/ThomasHuebl YouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashuebl ✨ Order Thomas Hübl’s new book, “Attuned: Practicing Interdependence to Heal Our Trauma–And Our World” here:👉 https://www.attunedbook.com/   ✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website:👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com

Thomas is joined by Debbie Levin, CEO of the Environmental Media Association, to discuss the role of media in shaping sustainability consciousness and how to effectively communicate about environmental issues.Debbie shares the importance of being gracious and non-judgmental when sharing knowledge on how to live a healthy, clean, and sustainable life. She explains how her organization has successfully leveraged celebrities’ platforms to spread awareness on crucial environmental issues and how the “Emma Green Seal” has influenced TV and movie productions to operate more sustainably.She and Thomas also explore the impact of the LA fires on both the entertainment industry and the larger climate change dialogue. This conversation covers a range of pressing environmental issues, but ultimately concludes on a note of hopefulness–that we all want our families and loved ones to be safe and healthy, and we can make a difference by starting from that common ground.Click here to watch the video version of this episode on YouTube:👉 https://youtu.be/mwrY4IqkiFETake our listener survey! We'd love your feedback on which topics and guests are resonating with you and which ones you'd like to hear more about in the future:👉 https://forms.gle/uoygyKMmHeUHeJFD9 ✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website: 👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com  Debbie Levin is the CEO of the Environmental Media Association (EMA), where she has spent over two decades leveraging the power of entertainment to drive environmental change. Under her leadership, EMA has launched initiatives like the EMA Green Seal for sustainable productions and EMA IMPACT, establishing the organization as a leading voice in sustainability within the entertainment industry.Learn more about Debbie's work here:  👉 https://www.green4ema.org Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma. In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University.✨ Connect with Thomas here:Website: https://thomashuebl.com/Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/ Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/ThomasHuebl YouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashuebl ✨ Order Thomas Hübl’s new book, “Attuned: Practicing Interdependence to Heal Our Trauma–And Our World” here:👉 https://www.attunedbook.com/   ✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website:👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com 

Thomas explores the qualities of leadership and collaboration that are needed to heal collective trauma. He shares how each of us plays a unique role—like musicians in an orchestra—contributing our distinct talents to a larger symphony of healing and transformation. Thomas addresses the impact of fear-based systems rooted in hierarchical power and advocates for shifting toward creative, relational models of leadership. He stresses the importance of self-reflection, community, and attuning to the self-healing mechanism of life as pathways to building a collective healing movement.Watch the video version of the episode on YouTube:👉 https://youtu.be/UJ6d-l6y9Xc ✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website: 👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com  Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma. In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University.✨ Connect with Thomas here:Website: https://thomashuebl.com/ Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/ Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/ThomasHuebl YouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashuebl 

Thomas Hübl sits down with celebrated speaker, posthumanist thinker, poet, teacher, and author Bayo Akomolafe to explore the leading edges of spiritual thinking and human identity. Bayo is a deeply experimental thinker, informed by the African cosmologies of the Yoruba and Igbo traditions. He leads an exploration into a new paradigm of healing that de-centers the individual to focus on the village, on the communal.He and Thomas discuss how modernity, especially in Western cultures, creates a false dichotomy between spirituality and science, pathologizes behavior that should instead be integrated, and offers a reductive, motionless view of the self. Bayo offers a different perspective, one in which the self or the psyche is always moving in an interconnected dance with our lineages, with evolution, and with the mysteries of the material realm.Bayo also explores how modern spiritual models contribute to systems of oppression, stressing the importance of spaciousness, non-conformity, and relationality in spiritual thinking and practice. Click here to watch the video version of this episode on YouTube:👉 https://youtu.be/2jSTAWp6Wsc Take our listener survey! We'd love your feedback on which topics and guests are resonating with you and which ones you'd like to hear more about in the future:👉 https://forms.gle/uoygyKMmHeUHeJFD9 ✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website: 👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com  Bayo Akomolafe is a widely celebrated international speaker, posthumanist thinker, poet, teacher, public intellectual, essayist, and author of books including These Wilds Beyond our Fences: Letters to My Daughter on Humanity’s Search for Home and We Will Tell our Own Story: The Lions of Africa Speak. Bayo is the founder of The Emergence Network and host of the online post-activist course, ‘We Will Dance with Mountains’. He currently lectures at Pacifica Graduate Institute, California, and the University of Vermont, Burlington, Vermont. Connect with Bayo here:  👉 https://bayoakomolafe.net Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma. In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University.✨ Connect with Thomas here:Website: https://thomashuebl.com/Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/ Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/ThomasHuebl YouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashuebl ✨ Order Thomas Hübl’s new book, “Attuned: Practicing Interdependence to Heal Our Trauma–And Our World” here:👉 https://www.attunedbook.com/   ✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website:👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com

Thomas explores the relationship between inner space and outer space, examining the ecosystemic impacts of nervous system regulation, presence, and maturity. He shares how contemplative practices, such as meditation, help develop the parts of our brain that promote regulation, the importance of developing a daily practice, and the maturity in knowing when to slow down and take a step back from stressful situations, news, and social media.Tune in to learn how our individual regulation and presence can “go viral”—creating a detoxifying effect that can help end harmful systemic patterns and promote healing on the individual, ancestral, and collective levels. Watch the video version of the episode on YouTube:👉 https://youtu.be/wQc3dB8xXgA ✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website: 👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com  Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma. In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University.✨ Connect with Thomas here:Website: https://thomashuebl.com/ Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/ Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/ThomasHuebl YouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashuebl 

Thomas and Zen teacher, mediator, and author Diane Musho Hamilton explore two key spiritual concepts—waking up and growing up— and why they’re so crucial in our rapidly changing world. Diane shares personal stories of loss, challenge, and resilience, and how contemplative practice and emotional development became essential tools for navigating adversity. They discuss spiritual practice, recognizing interconnectedness, and conflict resolution as necessary pathways for individual and collective growth. They also touch on the impact of technology, the importance of community, the role of ritual, and how healing personal trauma can scale up to have a larger social impact.Diane offers deep insights into consciousness and integration, the benefits and limits of meditation, and the vulnerability of spiritual communities when they lack tools to navigate conflict and manipulation.Click here to watch the video version of this episode on YouTube:👉 https://youtu.be/AnnfzZ_1fC0Take our listener survey! We'd love your feedback on which topics and guests are resonating with you and which ones you'd like to hear more about in the future:👉 https://forms.gle/uoygyKMmHeUHeJFD9 ✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website: 👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com  Diane Musho Hamilton is an award-winning mediator, author, and teacher of Zen meditation. Her next book is Waking Up and Growing Up: Spiritual Cross-Training for an Evolving World.Connect with Diane here:  👉 http://www.dianemushohamilton.com Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma. In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University.✨ Connect with Thomas here:Website: https://thomashuebl.com/Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/ Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/ThomasHuebl YouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashuebl ✨ Order Thomas Hübl’s new book, “Attuned: Practicing Interdependence to Heal Our Trauma–And Our World” here:👉 https://www.attunedbook.com/   ✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website:👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com

In this guided meditation, Thomas invites you to explore the current state of your mind. Explore your attachment to your thoughts and welcome a greater sense of presence and curiosity. Watch the video version of the episode on YouTube:👉 https://youtu.be/Q0Tty5OWpwI ✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website: 👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com  Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma. In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University.✨ Connect with Thomas here:Website: https://thomashuebl.com/ Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/ Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/ThomasHuebl YouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashuebl 

Thomas and award-winning reproductive justice and human rights leader Loretta J. Ross explore how we can address inequality, oppression, and hate in an atmosphere of political division and fast-paced technological progress.Loretta shares experiences that helped her form more effective strategies to solve social problems collectively and build inclusive movements that fight oppression with love, hope, and community instead of hate, anger, and vengeance.She and Thomas discuss the concept of “Calling In” – an accountability process that focuses on respect, engagement, and equal partnership, and how this is more effective than the adversarial “calling out” that we’re used to. Loretta explains how this practice can help social justice movements embrace diversity of thought and stop destructive in-fighting. Click here to watch the video version of this episode on YouTube:👉 https://youtu.be/T30HuFnQaHs Take our listener survey! We'd love your feedback on which topics and guests are resonating with you and which ones you'd like to hear more about in the future:👉 https://forms.gle/uoygyKMmHeUHeJFD9 ✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website: 👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com  Loretta J. Ross is a renowned activist, scholar, and pioneer of the 1970’s movement to end violence against women that laid the groundwork for the #MeToo movement. She founded the first U.S. center for creative human rights education and has deprogrammed hate group members, inspiring her upcoming book, Calling In the Calling Out Culture. She was inducted into the National Women's Hall of Fame in 2023.Connect with Loretta here:  👉 https://lorettajross.com Read Loretta's newest book: Calling In: How to Start Making Change With Those You'd Rather Cancel👉 https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Calling-In/Loretta-J-Ross/9781982190798Take Loretta's E-Course: Calling In: Navigating Conversations and Cultivating Compassionate Connections👉 https://speakoutinstitute.thinkific.com/courses/Calling-In-Navigating-Challenging-Conversations-and-Cultivating-Compassionate-Connections Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma. In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University.✨ Connect with Thomas here:Website: https://thomashuebl.com/Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/ Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/ThomasHuebl YouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashuebl ✨ Order Thomas Hübl’s new book, “Attuned: Practicing Interdependence to Heal Our Trauma–And Our World” here:👉 https://www.attunedbook.com/   ✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website:👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com

Thomas dives deep into the relationship between spirituality and healing, exploring how maturing our relationship with the divine provides incredible resources on our journey of self-discovery and ethical development. This teaching expands on the core spiritual principle of grace, its relationship to forgiveness, and the importance of owning your choices and transgressions as you expand your consciousness and connection to spirit.Thomas explores how to regain connection to our spiritual essence after pain and trauma disrupt it. When crises put us out of synch, those broken parts allow light to come in, and new opportunities to emerge…if we’re open to them. Life wants to heal, and a strong spiritual practice can activate healing that ripples out into the collective. Watch the video version of the episode on YouTube: https://youtu.be/talGozg6_Ps ✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website: 👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com  Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma. In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University.✨ Connect with Thomas here:Website: https://thomashuebl.com/ Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/ Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/ThomasHuebl YouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashuebl

Thomas and Dr. Lisa Miller, a clinical psychologist, professor, and NYT bestselling author, explore humans’ innate capacity for spirituality. Dr. Lisa explains how neuroscience and cutting-edge research help us understand our hard-wired drive for spiritual awareness and what these discoveries mean for the way we approach our spiritual journeys…and our entire lives.According to Dr. Miller, we’re all receptive to transcendent relationships, we are all emanations of the same source, and there is hard science to back this up. She and Thomas discuss how connection with others can deepen our spiritual experiences and how important it is to align with life’s natural rhythms.They also explore how trauma can be a pathway to spiritual growth and awakening, and Dr. Miller offers a guided practice for experiencing transcendence and awakening to our spiritual awareness.Click here to watch the video version of this episode on YouTube:👉 https://youtu.be/QGullrqfGdc Take our listener survey! We'd love your feedback on which topics and guests are resonating with you and which ones you'd like to hear more about in the future:👉 https://forms.gle/uoygyKMmHeUHeJFD9 ✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website: 👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com  Lisa Miller, Ph.D., is a clinical researcher, professor, speaker, and the New York Times bestselling author of The Spiritual Child and The Awakened Brain. She’s the founder and director of the Spirituality Mind Body Institute, the first Ivy League graduate program and research institute in spirituality and psychology, and editor of the Oxford University Press Handbook of Psychology and Spirituality.✨ Connect with Dr. Miller here: 👉 https://www.lisamillerphd.com Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma. In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University.✨ Connect with Thomas here:Website: https://thomashuebl.com/Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/ Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/ThomasHuebl YouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashuebl✨ Order Thomas Hübl’s new book, “Attuned: Practicing Interdependence to Heal Our Trauma–And Our World” here:👉 https://www.attunedbook.com/  ✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website:👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com

Thomas is joined by Mathieu Lefevre, co-founder of More In Common, to explore the growing polarization in society and the surprising ways in which we are actually more united than we think. Mathieu discusses his extensive research on social divisions in the U.S. and Europe, revealing how social media and news media create a distorted mirror of reality that exaggerates our differences. He explains the concept of perception gaps, where people overestimate how extreme their opponents’ views are, and offers insights on how to bridge these divides.Thomas and Mathieu examine the critical role of listening, intergroup contact, and shared spaces in fostering social cohesion. As climate change and other global challenges put increasing pressure on our collective resilience, we need new forms of collaboration and understanding so that we can move beyond toxic division and build a healthier, more connected society.Click here to watch the video version of this episode on YouTube:👉 https://youtu.be/sO1dyQrhcgY ✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website: 👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com  Mathieu Lefevre is the Co-Founder and CEO of More in Common, a non-profit working to understand the forces driving us apart, find common ground, and bring people together to tackle shared challenges. He was previously a Co-Founder of Make.org, one of the largest civic tech companies in Europe, and led a think tank on the future of global cities. Mathieu also served as a Political Officer in the United Nations’ Department of Peacekeeping Operations.✨ Connect with Mathieu here:👉 https://www.moreincommon.comThomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma. In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University.✨ Connect with Thomas here:Website: https://thomashuebl.com/Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/ Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/ThomasHuebl YouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashuebl✨ Order Thomas Hübl’s new book, “Attuned: Practicing Interdependence to Heal Our Trauma–And Our World” here:👉 https://www.attunedbook.com/  ✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website:👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com

How can we stop repeating patterns from the past? Thomas Hübl explores what it will take for individuals and societies to respond maturely to the current atmosphere of collective stress and not give in to polarizing and fragmenting forces.In our lives and in our histories, we see repeating patterns and often react in unhealthy ways. To address these collective issues, we need to look inside—check in with ourselves when we’re triggered, and develop a more fluid and integrated perspective. Thomas shares how integrating our wounds, practicing embodiment, and developing a more mature inner world can lead to greater clarity, compassion, and capacity to handle stress. Our inner experience has an ecosystemic effect, so we must create spaces, practices, and rituals—a healing architecture to process our past. Only then can we move fluidly into the future and become the wise elders that the world so needs. Want to watch the video version of the episode on YouTube? Follow this link: https://youtu.be/QuEtyzTfr5w ✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website: 👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com  Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma. In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University.✨ Connect with Thomas here:Website: https://thomashuebl.com/ Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/ Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/ThomasHuebl YouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashuebl

Thomas explores three dimensions of time that shape our spiritual practice, and our healing journeys: the flowing 'river of time,' the frozen pockets of trauma that disrupt its movement, and the profound stillness of timelessness.Through deep introspection and integration, uncover how to transform stuck patterns into a liberated flow, embracing the wisdom of both modern psychology and ancient traditions. This bonus podcast episode is dropping on the two-year anniversary of Point of Relation! Stay tuned at the end of the episode for a special greeting from our podcast team (and their pets). And thank you so much for being a part of our community. ✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website: 👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com  Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma. In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University.✨ Connect with Thomas here:Website: https://thomashuebl.com/ Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/ Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/ThomasHuebl YouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashuebl

Thomas is joined by author, artist, and founder and CEO of Adaptive Leadership, Zander Grashow, for a conversation on the type of leadership that’s needed as humanity faces an unprecedented acceleration of social and technological change. In order for us to meet this moment, we need to dismantle broken and corrupted systems, develop new social and relational skills, and collectively re-imagine the future that we want to work towards. This requires us to stay engaged despite the difficulty, and find our passion instead of leaning into despair.Zander offers his take on the most important elements of leading our societies into that better future—learning to feel into our bodies and our emotions, identifying what we must let go of, understanding the structures of power, creating safe spaces to digest events, and building more resilient social fabrics in community. Click here to watch the video version of this episode on YouTube:👉 https://youtu.be/Wlh0UEAUqJk✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website: 👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com  A recognized authority on Adaptive Leadership and change, Zander Grashow has been a confidential advisor to presidents, activists and change agents in their most critical moments of transition. Zander is a renowned facilitator, speaker and advisor to leaders around the world, with a broad reach into the activist, global business, philanthropic, entrepreneurial and creative communities. He believes every person should have the ability to evolve their life and work.✨ Connect with Zander here:👉 https://www.adaptandlead.com Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma. In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University.✨ Connect with Thomas here:Website: https://thomashuebl.com/Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/ Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/ThomasHuebl YouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashuebl✨ Order Thomas Hübl’s new book, “Attuned: Practicing Interdependence to Heal Our Trauma–And Our World” here:👉 https://www.attunedbook.com/  ✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website:👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com

Thomas is joined by educator, musician, activist, and creator of First Voices Radio, Tiokasin Ghosthorse. Tiokasin is a member of the Cheyenne River Lakota Nation of South Dakota, and shares deep wisdom from the Lakota worldview, language, and traditions.He and Thomas explore ways for us to redefine our relationship with Mother Earth, moving away from a mindset of separation and domination towards one of interconnectedness, mutual becoming, and intuition. Tiokasin shares how we can be more in tune with Earth’s natural rhythm to become more present in the now and more connected to the future.The Indigenous way of being involves an openness to seeing and feeling our ancestors—not just our human ancestors, but also the earth itself. Tiokasin stresses the need for us to de-center humans in order to reconnect with nature, and demonstrates how understanding the living Lakota language can affect a cultural mindset shift in that direction.To watch the video version of this episode, visit:🎬 https://youtu.be/yvWaf-WMPRY ✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website: 👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com  Tiokasin Ghosthorse is an educator, musician, and international speaker on peace. He is a member of the Cheyenne River Lakota Nation of South Dakota and has a long history with Indigenous activism and advocacy. Tiokasin is the Founder, Host, and Executive Producer of First Voices Radio. In 2016, he received a Nomination for the Nobel Peace Prize and is the recipient of numerous other awards and honors for the arts, music, and community work. Tiokasin is a master musician of the Lakota cedar flute(s) where stories and cultural knowledge are conveyed through music.✨ Connect with Tiokasin here:👉 https://akantuInstitute.org👉 https://www.firstvoicesindigenousradio.org Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma. In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University.✨ Connect with Thomas here:Website: https://thomashuebl.com/Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/ Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/ThomasHuebl YouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashuebl✨ Order Thomas Hübl’s new book, “Attuned: Practicing Interdependence to Heal Our Trauma–And Our World” here:👉 https://www.attunedbook.com/  ✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website:👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com

Thomas Hübl explores what it means to get in touch with our deepest humanity, live our spirituality with respect to the freedom of all humans, and move through the world with embodied awareness.We are all composed of a divine light—an unbroken stream of data that began with our oldest ancestors. But we have also inherited trauma from those who came before us, and from the events of our own lives. Healing and integrating these traumas has an ecosystemic impact, it ripples out to those around us and opens us to the spiritual dimension.But healing isn’t just about transcending our pain, it requires integration, and more importantly—humility. It requires us to own our transgressions and include their lessons in our spiritual practice. Thomas shares how this inclusivity generates wisdom and opens us to greater generosity, deeper insights, and more warmth and love in our lives.✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website: 👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com  Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma. In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University.✨ Connect with Thomas here:Website: https://thomashuebl.com/ Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/ Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/ThomasHuebl YouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashuebl

Thomas Hübl and NYT bestselling author and the host of the podcast, Pulling the Thread, Elise Loehnen, explore the nature of shadow, evil, and collective trauma from a mystical and spiritual perspective. They discuss the impact of unprocessed pain and ancestral wounds, the obstacles we face as we work to integrate our individual and collective shadows, and the challenges (and benefits) of staying present in a world shaped by both light and darkness. Elise poses profound questions about the moral qualities of evil, while Thomas offers insights into the interconnectedness of the human experience and what it means to take responsibility—both for your own actions, and for harms perpetrated by others that you have unwittingly benefitted from.✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website: 👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com  Elise Loehnen is a New York Times bestselling author and the host of the podcast, Pulling the Thread, where she interviews cultural luminaries about the big questions of today. She’s the author of the New York Times bestselling On Our Best Behavior: The Seven Deadly Sins and the Price Women Pay to be Good. She has also co-written 12 books, including five New York Times Best Sellers. Previously, she was the chief content officer of goop. While there, Elise co-hosted The goop Podcast and The goop Lab on Netflix, and led the brand’s content strategy and programming. For the podcast, she interviewed 100’s of thought leaders, doctors, and experts. Prior to goop, she was the editorial projects director of Conde Nast Traveler. Before Traveler, she was the editor at large and deputy editor of Lucky Magazine, where she also served as the on-air spokesperson, appearing regularly on shows like Today, E!, Good Morning America, and The Early Show.  She has a B.A. from Yale and majored in English and Fine Arts. These days, she serves on two boards (Jeni’s Splendid Ice Creams and Skinfix), advises a beauty bio-tech start-up (Arcaea), and spends her time writing, reading, and fundraising for causes and politicians focused on environmental action, social justice, women and children’s health, and a more equitable world.✨ Connect with Elise here:👉 https://eliseloehnen.com  👉 https://eliseloehnen.substack.com  Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma. In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University.✨ Connect with Thomas here:Website: https://thomashuebl.com/Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/ Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/ThomasHuebl YouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashuebl ✨ Order Thomas Hübl’s new book, “Attuned: Practicing Interdependence to Heal Our Trauma–And Our World” here:👉 https://www.attunedbook.com/  ✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website:👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com

Thomas reads a short passage from the Tao Te Ching and shares spiritual practices and conceptual tools to help you let go of unhelpful ideas you’re clinging to and create spaciousness in your mind and body. ✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website: 👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com  Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma. In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University.✨ Connect with Thomas here:Website: https://thomashuebl.com/ Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/ Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/ThomasHuebl YouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashuebl

Thomas is joined by Dr. Shefali, a clinical psychologist, bestselling author, and host of the Parenting & You podcast. Dr. Shefali is an expert on “Conscious Parenting,” an approach to raising children that focuses on the need for parents to identify and heal from their own traumas—especially childhood traumas—so that they don’t pass on harmful patterns and behaviors to their kids.She and Thomas discuss the importance of creating emotional safety in parent-child relationships (and all relationships) in order to create an environment where a child, friend, or partner can be their authentic self. They also cover how to identify triggers and how being in touch with your physical body allows you to be more in touch with your emotions.Dr. Shefali stresses that sometimes growth requires a level of discomfort, and a relinquishing of control, but doing the hard work of becoming more present and self-aware is the best thing you can do for your children.✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website: 👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com Dr. Shefali is a New York Times bestselling author of books on conscious living and mindful living. She is the founder of the amazing Conscious Parenting and Life Coaching Institute, where she trains coaches to use her method and to help others. Dr. Shefali has her own podcast called Parenting & You With Dr. Shefali, which is available everywhere podcasts are heard.✨ Connect with Dr. Shefali here:👉 https://www.drshefali.com/ Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma. In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University.✨ Connect with Thomas here:Website: https://thomashuebl.com/Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/ Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/ThomasHuebl YouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashuebl ✨ Order Thomas Hübl’s new book, “Attuned: Practicing Interdependence to Heal Our Trauma–And Our World” here:👉 https://www.attunedbook.com/  ✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website:👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com

Thomas is joined by Tamala Floyd, a psychotherapist, IFS lead trainer, speaker, and the author of “Listening When Parts Speak: A Practical Guide to Healing with Internal Family Systems Therapy and Ancestor Wisdom.”They discuss the relationship between the “Self” and the multiple “parts” of the self in Internal Family Systems work, and how understanding and integrating our protective parts helps us heal past traumas and establish a stronger relationship with our innate, inner selves.Tamala shares wisdom on ancestral healing, explaining how intergenerational trauma work supports IFS work, and helps us to free ourselves from patterns and behaviors that don’t serve us. She and Thomas also explore the concept of “legacy burdens”—wounds and harms that we’ve inherited from our ancestors or our culture that impact our lives—and how we can learn to release them. ✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website: 👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com  Tamala Floyd is a psychotherapist, author, IFS lead trainer, consultant, and retreat leader with over 25 years of experience. Her latest book, "Listening When Parts Speak: A Practical Guide to Healing with Internal Family Systems Therapy and Ancestor Wisdom," focuses on healing personal and generational trauma.✨ Connect with Tamala here:👉 https://tamalafloyd.com Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma. In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University.✨ Connect with Thomas here:Website: https://thomashuebl.com/ Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/ Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/ThomasHuebl YouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashuebl

Thomas Hübl is joined by renowned storyteller, author, and scholar of mythology, Michael Meade. They discuss transformation as an essential element of life, and how embracing radical transformation—both personally and as a collective—allows us to get in touch with our deeper selves.Michael draws on his knowledge of ancient rites of passage, mythology, and initiation rituals to help define the liminal space humanity finds itself in right now. As we stand on a cultural and environmental threshold, we have a choice: either let go of our egos and open our wounds to be cleansed and healed, or resist change and remain disconnected from life, death, and nature itself.He and Thomas also explore what it means to be an elder across different cultures, how seemingly apocalyptic turmoil is really a lifting of the veil, and the divine value of stepping into the unknown. ✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website: 👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com  Michael Meade D.H.L., is a renowned storyteller, author, and scholar of mythology, anthropology, and psychology. He combines hypnotic storytelling, street-savvy perceptiveness, and spellbinding interpretations of ancient myths with a deep knowledge of cross-cultural rituals. He is the creator of the Living Myth Podcast, and the founder of Mosaic Multicultural Foundation, a nonprofit that encourages greater understanding between diverse peoples.✨ Connect with Michael here: 👉 https://www.mosaicvoices.org Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma. In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University.✨ Connect with Thomas here:Website: https://thomashuebl.com/ Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/ Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/ThomasHuebl YouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashuebl

Thomas Hübl dives deep into how we can learn to be more grounded in stressful moments, and grow our resilience, agency, and ability to respond to challenges. He shares insights and practices to activate curiosity, exploring how we can expand our individual healing into the community.We're living in a very complex time - a global poly-crisis situation where the topics reverberating in the world might feel overwhelming, isolating, triggering, distancing, even creating indifference.Thomas focuses on learning to recognize overwhelm and create space within ourselves, in our environment, and in our relationships so that integration and healing can occur.Where would you like more space in your life, to create the possibility of a different outcome, a new future? Tune in for fresh insights on cultivating space and nurturing wisdom, resilience, and loving-kindness in an increasingly complex world.✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website: 👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma. In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University.✨ Connect with Thomas here:Website: https://thomashuebl.com/ Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/ Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/ThomasHuebl YouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashuebl

Thomas Hübl shares practices and perspectives to help us navigate the challenges that may arise as many of us gather with our families and communities for the holidays. In situations where differing opinions and issues from childhood can often lead to tension, reactivity, and conflict, it sometimes feels impossible to stay grounded, present, and spacious enough to handle these moments. With practice, we can learn to recognize our emotions, know how they feel in our bodies, and gain a better understanding of our inner experience so that we can integrate what arises. Then, we can transform difficult moments into opportunities for growth and connection. Or, we can see more clearly when the healthy decision is to walk away.Thomas explores how we can train ourselves to be more regulated so that we can approach relational challenges with curiosity instead of judgment, and create space to host discomfort and disagreement with fluidity, maturity, and love.✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website: 👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com  Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma. In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University.✨ Connect with Thomas here:Website: https://thomashuebl.com/ Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/ Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/ThomasHuebl YouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashuebl 

Thomas is joined by author, activist, spiritual teacher, racial equity consultant and trainer, and intuitive healer, Michelle Cassandra Johnson. They discuss a new paradigm of collective care and healing inspired by the natural wisdom of honeybees. Michelle, an amateur beekeeper, shares what she’s learned about interconnectedness, adaptation, attunement, and longevity from these incredible creatures.She and Thomas also explore how we can find the medicine that lives within us and learn to recognize and harness our inner resources for healing. We live in chaotic times, within harmful systems, and suffer from constant distractions that dysregulate our nervous systems. Thomas and Michelle share how leaning into community, fostering safe healing spaces, and practicing rituals and ceremonies can help us connect with the great and beautiful mystery of life and turn a feeling of lack into a sense of enoughness. ✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website: 👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com Michelle Cassandra Johnson is an author, activist, spiritual practitioner, racial equity consultant, and intuitive healer whose work is grounded in an understanding that we can and must heal individually and collectively. She has authored several books, including Skill in Action and Finding Refuge, and has spoken extensively about racial equity, justice, and our connection with nature.✨ Connect with Michelle here: 👉 https://www.michellecjohnson.com Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma. In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University.✨ Connect with Thomas here:Website: https://thomashuebl.com/ Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/ Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/ThomasHuebl YouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashuebl

In this special bonus episode, Thomas shares a powerful presencing practice focused on conscious enjoyment. In our day-to-day lives, how often are we taking the time to stop and really focus on an embodied experience of enjoyment? Thomas shares why this is an important part of a well-rounded spiritual practice, and how this can help us release stress-based thought patterns and reinvigorate our lives. ✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website: 👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com  Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma. In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University.✨ Connect with Thomas here:Website: https://thomashuebl.com/ Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/ Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/ThomasHuebl YouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashuebl

 Thomas shares insights, tools, and practices to help you stay present, responsive, and connected during times of change and uncertainty. More than ever, we are impacted by world events contributing to a state of polycrisis, where multiple traumatic events happen simultaneously. Thomas explores how we can support ourselves and others at a time when many are feeling chronic anxiety and overwhelm, while also addressing deeper layers of trauma.Each of us is part of the overall health of the collective nervous system.  And as we each undergo our own healing and inner work, we influence the larger collective field. Tune in to learn how to expand your collective understanding to support more effective and multidimensional healing.#traumahealing #collectivehealing #ancestralhealing ✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website: 👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com  Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma. In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University.✨ Connect with Thomas here:Website: https://thomashuebl.com/ Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/ Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/ThomasHuebl YouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashuebl

Thomas is joined by renowned trauma psychologist, bestselling author, and CEO of Break the Cycle, Dr. Mariel Buqué. They dive deep into intergenerational trauma, exploring how it’s handed down through family lines and how we can effectively heal it. Dr. Buqué’s extensive work with trauma healing has shown the importance of healing in connection with others, especially when the traumas we’ve suffered were traumas that happened in relationship. As humans, we are interconnected, interdependent beings, and it’s healthy and natural for us to rely on each other. But trauma can make that difficult. Thomas and Dr. Buqué share holistic and professional methods for sustainable healing, stressing the importance of combining individual efforts with community support. Tune in to learn how we can break the cycles that we were unwillingly born into, and move from despair to profound hope and healing. ✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website: 👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com  Dr. Mariel Buqué is a psychologist, a world-renowned intergenerational trauma expert, and the author of the bestselling book Break the Cycle: A Guide to Healing Intergenerational Trauma. Her mission is to help reduce the recurrence of Intergenerational ACEs (Adverse Childhood Experiences) within communities of color. Her consultation and therapy practice, the Break the Cycle Trauma Center, addresses the needs of underserved communities via a holistic system of care focused on equity and prevention.✨ Connect with Dr. Buqué here:👉 https://www.drmarielbuque.com Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma. In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University.✨ Connect with Thomas here:Website: https://thomashuebl.com/ Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/ Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/ThomasHuebl YouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashuebl

Thomas offers insights on how we can generate and maintain hope, exploring hope as a skill and a practice rather than just a belief. He defines hope as the presence of agency—something that we can actively influence and co-create with each other. Many who have suffered trauma find it difficult to maintain presence and tend to view this as a negative thing. But Thomas offers a different perspective. He explains that being pulled “out of the moment” is an intelligent function that helps us survive traumatic events.Instead of fighting our feelings and pathologizing our lack of presence, we can actually achieve more groundedness and connection by integrating our wounds, allowing ourselves to feel our feelings, and observing our tendencies with compassion and creativity rather than judgment. In an interconnected world, we each contribute to a brighter future by doing our inner work and sharing the wisdom that comes from it.✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website: 👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com  Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma. In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University.✨ Connect with Thomas here:Website: https://thomashuebl.com/ Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/ Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/ThomasHuebl YouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashuebl

Thomas is joined by Dr. Robert Waldinger, a psychiatry professor and the director of the Harvard Study of Adult Development, to explore the secrets to human happiness and thriving. They discuss the profound insights gained from the longest-running study on human happiness, revealing how relationships, stress regulation, and having a strong sense of purpose shape our health and longevity. Dr. Waldinger shares the factors in our lives that we can adjust to have greater agency over our happiness, and the role of wealth and privilege in wellbeing. The conversation also explores the transformative power of meditation, specifically in the Zen Buddhist tradition, offering wisdom on impermanence and interconnectedness.  ✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website: 👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com  Robert Waldinger is Professor of Psychiatry at Harvard Medical School and directs the Harvard Study of Adult Development, one of the longest-running studies of adult life ever done. He directs a teaching program in psychotherapy at Massachusetts General Hospital in Boston, and he writes about what science can teach us about healthy human development.  He is also a Zen master (roshi) and teaches meditation both in the US and internationally. ✨ Connect with Dr. Waldinger here:👉 https://www.robertwaldinger.com Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma. In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University.✨ Connect with Thomas here:Website: https://thomashuebl.com/ Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/ Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/ThomasHuebl YouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashuebl

In this special bonus episode, Thomas examines the role of our ancestors in our lives and how lessons from the past can help us heal and evolve as humans.Our ancestors have left us with many gifts, but have also burdened us with unintegrated trauma. By learning how to connect to our roots and integrate those fragmented pieces of the past, we can bring light, creativity, innovation, and resilience into our legacies. And by doing this work in combination with personal and collective healing, we can build a better world for future generations. ✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website: 👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com  Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma. In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University.✨ Connect with Thomas here:Website: https://thomashuebl.com/ Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/ Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/ThomasHuebl YouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashuebl

Thomas is joined by Margaret Wheatley, a writer, teacher, speaker, and organizational consultant whose work focuses on summoning and training leaders who can step up to guide us in building new systems based on shared values, instead of trying to reform the destructive and corrupted systems that currently threaten life on this planet. Thomas and Margaret start from the ground up, exploring how collectives and cultures emerge and how they operate, incorporating wisdom from science and biology. They focus on how different cultures define, experience, and approach trauma, and what we can learn from them.Drawing on her work in diverse international communities, Margaret believes that the human spirit can transcend its individual experience. Using support from community and lessons from spirituality, we can shake off the loneliness of trauma, unite to reclaim our spirits, and use whatever power and influence we possess for the good of all humans. ✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website: 👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com  ✨ Order Thomas’ book, “Attuned: Practicing Interdependence to Heal Our Trauma–And Our World” here: 👉 https://www.attunedbook.com Margaret Wheatley, Ed.D. began her career as a Peace Corps volunteer in post-war Korea. In many different roles—speaker, teacher, organizational consultant, advisor, and formal leader—her work has deepened into an unshakable conviction that leaders must learn how to invoke people's inherent generosity, creativity, and need for community. She is co-founder and president of The Berkana Institute and the author of thirteen books.✨ Connect with Margaret here: 👉 https://margaretwheatley.comThomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma. In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University.✨ Connect with Thomas here:Website: https://thomashuebl.com/ Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/ Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/ThomasHuebl YouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashuebl

Welcome to the 100th episode of Point of Relation! We’re so excited to share this milestone with you and we’re incredibly grateful to all of our listeners for their continued support. In this episode, Thomas Hübl explores the concept of relational presence, an essential component of healing personal and collective trauma and nurturing healthy and fulfilling relationships in our lives.Thomas shares the fundamentals of presence, why it’s such an important element of the way we communicate, and how we can learn to co-regulate and resonate with the people in our lives.By learning and practicing these skills, we’re building our capacity to form safe, coherent spaces that serve as the primary tool for trauma integration. When we train to see our own filters and unconscious areas, we can create an environment that supports collective healing. ✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website: 👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com  Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma. In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University.✨ Connect with Thomas here:Website: https://thomashuebl.com/ Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/ Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/ThomasHuebl YouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashuebl

Thomas is joined by Professor of Psychiatry, Philosophy, and Anthropology, and host of the Deep Transformation Podcast, Roger Walsh. They dive deep into how each of us can leverage our unique skills and capacities to help solve the many crises humanity is facing. It can be overwhelming to view complex, interconnected problems like climate change, war, and political unrest, and feel like you’re powerless to make a difference. Thomas and Roger assert that we must be willing to face our fears, be present with our emotional responses, and understand the psychological and spiritual roots of these problems to affect meaningful collective change.Roger stresses that there are no simple, single solutions for individuals or the collective. But at the core of our distress is a deep compassion for humanity, and tapping into that compassion is a powerful activator for collective healing.  ✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website: 👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com  ✨ Order Thomas’ book, “Attuned: Practicing Interdependence to Heal Our Trauma–And Our World” here: 👉 https://www.attunedbook.com Roger Walsh MD, Ph.D. is a professor of psychiatry, philosophy, and anthropology at the University of California, whose research focuses on topics such as meditation, psychological wellbeing, wisdom, and the psychological roots of our global crises. His books include Essential Spirituality: The Seven Central Practices, and The World of Shamanism. He is a student and researcher of contemplative practices, an authorized lama in Tibetan Buddhism, and cohosts the podcast Deep Transformation: Self-Society-Spirit, with listeners in over 170 countries. ✨ Connect with Roger here: 👉 https://www.drrogerwalsh.com  Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma. In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University.✨ Connect with Thomas here:Website: https://thomashuebl.com/ Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/ Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/ThomasHuebl YouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashuebl

Thomas discusses the importance of ancestral healing and explores how to develop a felt sense of connection with our ancestors. Connection is essential to healing, and connecting with both the wisdom and the unintegrated traumas of our ancestors helps us to be more present and grounded in our own lives, and accelerates our personal and collective healing. Our ancestors have handed us a wealth of resources, and also a whole lot of unfinished business. Thomas explores how we can connect to the sacred spark of life that we’ve inherited, and feel into frozen areas of wounding and trauma so that we can heal them before they’re passed on to our descendants.He explains how developing an ancestral awareness not only helps us to integrate the trauma that our ancestors could not, but also connects us more deeply with Mother Earth, allows us to be better stewards of our biosphere, and creates a healthier world for future generations to inhabit.✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website: 👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com  ✨ Order Thomas’ new book, “Attuned: Practicing Interdependence to Heal Our Trauma–And Our World” here: 👉 https://www.attunedbook.com Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma. In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University.✨ Connect with Thomas here:Website: https://thomashuebl.com/ Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/ Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/ThomasHuebl YouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashuebl

Thomas Hübl and New York Times bestselling author Elise Loehnen discuss the often misunderstood realms of shadow work and collective trauma. They explore how facing our inner darkness can lead to profound personal and societal transformation, and share practical insights on integrating the messy, painful parts of ourselves for spiritual growth and global healing. Without awareness, whatever is being suppressed in the deep layers of our collective shadow will be passed on to future generations. But by implementing new rituals and architectures of healing, we can transform stagnant energy into aliveness, creativity, ethical upgrades, and stronger collaboration across cultural divides.✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website: 👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com  ✨ Order Thomas’ book, “Attuned: Practicing Interdependence to Heal Our Trauma–And Our World” here: 👉 https://www.attunedbook.com Elise Loehnen is a New York Times bestselling author and the host of the podcast, Pulling the Thread, where she interviews cultural luminaries about the big questions of today. She’s the author of the New York Times bestselling On Our Best Behavior: The Seven Deadly Sins and the Price Women Pay to be Good. She has also co-written 12 books. She was the chief content officer of goop, where she co-hosted The goop Podcast and The goop Lab on Netflix, and led the brand’s content strategy and programming. She was previously the editorial projects director of Conde Nast Traveler and the editor at large and deputy editor of Lucky Magazine, where she served as the on-air spokesperson.✨ Connect with Elise here: 👉 https://eliseloehnen.com 👉 https://eliseloehnen.substack.com  Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma. In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University.✨ Connect with Thomas here:Website: https://thomashuebl.com/ Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/ Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/ThomasHuebl YouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashuebl

Thomas guides a meditation to help you drop into your body, embrace the sensations and emotions that arise, and use your awareness to help regulate your nervous system, open your heart space, and start to feel more grounded. ✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website: 👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com  ✨ Order Thomas’ book, “Attuned: Practicing Interdependence to Heal Our Trauma–And Our World” here: 👉 https://www.attunedbook.com Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma. In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University.✨ Connect with Thomas here:Website: https://thomashuebl.com/ Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/ Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/ThomasHuebl YouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashuebl

Thomas Hübl explores the intricate relationship between trauma, healing, and spirituality. He explains that trauma is not defined by the events we experience but by our inner responses to overwhelming situations, often leading to emotional, mental, and even societal stagnation.He discusses how we can reintegrate the frozen parts of ourselves to support growth, creativity, and deeper connections, and how healing trauma opens us to deeper love and relational awareness. With consistent spiritual practice, connection to community, and unwavering compassion for ourselves and others, we can face difficult challenges in our lives and overcome the illusion of separation to address critical global issues. ✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website: 👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com  ✨ Order Thomas’ book, “Attuned: Practicing Interdependence to Heal Our Trauma–And Our World” here: 👉 https://www.attunedbook.com Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma. In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University.✨ Connect with Thomas here:Website: https://thomashuebl.com/ Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/ Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/ThomasHuebl YouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashuebl