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Alright we have a special episode today. We're lucky to hear all about Miki's new paper looking at the complete story of our dietary past and humans being high-trophic level carnivores. He gave me a sneak peak at this awesome 40 page paper he's submitting for review. Miki Ben-Dor got an undergraduate and masters degree in economics and then went back to school later in life to study paleoanthropology. He's now Post doctoral fellow at the department of archeology of Tel Aviv University. You can find some great presentations on youtube and his paper "Man the Fat Hunter" published in 2011. Love the work he's done - he's hit it from all angles and it all lines up. We ate meat for all of human history. Ok here's a bit of business to take care of - Let's see how concise we can make this. Get your own grass finished meat at Nose to tail.org. Support the show on Patreon at patreon.com / peak human. Preorder the film at FoodLies.org. Watch highlights from the film on the Food Lies youtube. Get daily content on the Food Lies instagram, twitter, and facebook. SIgn up for the newsletter on Sapien.org. Get on the waiting list if your a health coach, doctor, or other healthcare practitioner at sapien.org. I think there's too many things at this point. Maybe just pick 1 of these and go for it. I really appreciate it. At this point we're a community powered company. We're scrambling around here at SAPIEN trying to make this all happen without outside money or influence. Really love this tribe. We can't go back to the glory days thrusting spears at wooly mammoth and gorging on fatty meat, but we can still try to bring the community together and spread the word and focus on our own health and people around us. Now let's hear from Miki Ben-Dor BUY THE MEAT http://NosetoTail.org Support me on Patreon! http://patreon.com/peakhuman Preorder the film here: http://indiegogo.com/projects/food-lies-post Film site: http://FoodLies.org SHOW NOTES Miki completed his undergrad and masters in economics and switched later in life into paleo anthropology His research is largely focused on the reconstruction of the human diet and the relationship between plant vs animal foods and the proportion of each as far back as 2 million years ago If we want to understand human evolution we have to go much further back than just modern hunter gatherers Gut morphology similar to carnivores When we compare humans to chimpanzees, Miki has calculated that to be 77% smaller colon and about 60% longer small intestine which is exactly the direction of carnivores The size of our stomachs is another cue Gut pH is very convincing too since herbivores have a more basic stomach pH whereas omnivores have more acidic and carnivores have very acidic stomachs and scavengers have the most acidic, humans are most similar to scavengers The size and number of human adipocytes is closely related to carnivores vs herbivores One of the main differences between their diets and today's diets is bone marrow, Miki believes our ancestors ate a lot of bone marrow and had the ability to break bones which appeared broken to get the marrow Liver is also the first thing that humans would go for when they killed their prey The evolution of the Savannah vs forest and how this changed the diet It's easier to hunt larger animals than smaller animals Humans ate plants for all of history, there is no question that we ate them, the only question is how much Hypercarnivore is defined as a carnivore that eats 70-80% of energy from animals and the rest from plants If you want to be safe, eat 80% from fat and meat Using the Hadza to reconstruct the human diet is completely inaccurate You also can't use modern hunter gatherers to see what our ancestors ate Everytime we find plant matter in human remains, everyone celebrates but it doesn't tell us anything about how much they ate Isotopic discoveries are more reliable than archeology and definitely shows that we are mostly carnivorous Humans do not want to spend energy gathering plants when they can spend that energy hunting animals Humans have higher fat reserves than other animals which allowed us to get through periods of starvation and we can afford to because we don't chase or escape we don't need to be fast All large carnivores eat large animals and are hypercarnivores Miki thinks we spread across the globe because we can hunt animals of any size, with plants you have to use trial and error and adjust to them Wherever humans went, these large animals decreased and that humans could have been the reason for the decrease in megafauna Domesticating plant foods and animals was about 10,000 years ago As we approach agriculture revolution we started eating more plant foods but our stature also decreased and our brain size decreased Fat was prized for all of history and plants are fallback foods He tried to find evidence for plants in the human diet and couldn't, all his evidence showed was that humans were carnivores Papers showing mixed diets ar

Aaand we're back! Season 4 is coming in hot with some great guests and some more interesting formats. I have some special episodes coming up like the meat-eating heroes panel that we filmed for Food Lies with Mark Sisson, Dr. Shawn Baker, and Dr. Paul Saladino. I also put together a compilation episode that is 6 months in the making with amazing stories from people around America using nutrient dense diets to change their life. What is a nutrient dense diet you may be asking and who am I? The podcast is growing by the day and I want to give new listeners a quick overview. If you're not new, be sure to stick around there's a special event announcement at the end. I'm Brian Sanders and I'm creating the feature-length documentary Food Lies which covers the entire story on what humans should be eating including an evolutionary history, where we wrong in the last 60 years, and how we can do this sustainably. We're in the process of editing now and are shooting some of the last segments in Canada in July. We don't have a release date yet unfortunately. After years of studying different diets and eating strategies, I've landed on what we're calling the Sapien diet or way of eating or lifestyle. Because it's not a diet - it's a nutrient dense way to eat for life. I believe you can even dip into non-ideal foods on the weekends or at a special event once you hit your goal weight and if it doesn't interfere with food intolerances or restrictions. The Sapien diet is based on 3 simple pillars. 1) Nutrient dense whole foods. THis means mostly animal foods which are the most nutrient dense and have the most bioavailable nutrients. This means eating nose to tail and including foods like liver, bone marrow or broth, grass fed butter or tallow, eggs, cold water fish like salmon and sardines, oysters and other mollusks, fermented vegetables, and low sugar fruits like avocados and olives. 2) is for each meal focus on protein, embrace fat, and minimize carbs. The animal protein should be the base of each meal but make sure it comes with enough fat and don't be scared of it. Most carbs are nutrient poor and really don't provide much to you other than getting in the way of your body burning the fat from your meal or better yet, from your body. And the last pillar is 3) don't eat all the time. You could call this a condensed eating window or intermittent fasting. Try to eat within an 8-10 hour window each day and let your body rest from constantly having to digest food. There's a lot more to this so please listen back from episode 1, check out http://sapien.org/diet that's sapien.org/diet, and we'll continue to put out more details on the Sapien framework in the future. Ok so onto this episode - I'm starting off the new season with a bang. Maybe you haven't heard of Keith Baar? You should have. I hope to get some of these researchers doing groundbreaking and valuable work into the spotlight Keith is a brilliant researcher who has done great work in his career and published a ton of papers. Much of this work around mTor, muscle protein synthesis (AKA building muscle), collagen synthesis (AKA building all the other tissues that are so important in your body), and so much more. He's a professor of Molecular Exercise Physiology at UC Davis and works in the Department of Neurobiology, Physiology and Behavior, College of Biological Sciences and the Department of Physiology and Membrane Biology, School of Medicine. He has a bachelors degree in Kinesiology from the University of Michigan, a masters in Human Biodynamics from UC Berkeley, and a PhD in Physiology and Biophysics from the University of Illinois. You'll learn a ton about how to live long and live strong. He only goes to the gym for 10-12 minutes two times per week yet is still getting stronger each year. We talk about how to live a long healthy life and if eating too much meat is going to help or hurt that. I love talking about the benefits of eating meat so much that I started a grass fed meat company called Nose to Tail which can be found at http://NoseToTail.org We ship nutrient dense boxes of meat to all 48 contiguous US states. We have ground beef with liver, kidney, heart, and spleen mixed in so you get all the nutrients and none of the hassle and barely any of the livery taste. We have so many other things like bone broth, marrow bones, tallow, suet, and all the normal cuts as well. You can also support my work at http://Patreon.com/peakhuman This is where we keep the podcast ad-free so I don't have to take anyone else's money to talk about (or be influenced by) their products. This is also where you get the amazing extended show notes put together by Kristi with all the studies and further details included. This is valuable stuff. I'd say better than most nutrition colleges. Definitely better than most nutrition programs teaching all this whole grain nonsense actually. And of course the Food Lies film is still on Indiegogo and needs support. We're desperately trying to

This is an interview I've been looking forward to for years. Dr. Dale Bredesen is shaking up the medical world by showing that Alzheimer's actually can be prevented, treated, and sometimes even reversed. This is really important to me because my mom is the final stages of Alzherimer's and I, of course, am doing everything I can to prevent myself from falling to the same fate. I believe the Sapien way of eating and lifestyle is doing just that - setting me up for my best chances at my longest healthspan. You can learn more about this at http://sapien.org/diet Dr. Bredesen and I agree on all the core principles. He really is describing a Sapien diet with his protocol. We're only at odds with the ratio of plant foods to animal foods. As I've posted today on social media, I think people are actually more on the side of animal foods than they think. In the context of a whole foods, low carb diet without refined grains, sugar or vegetable oil, more often than not people are getting the majority of their calories from animal foods without necessarily realizing it. Only people eating Standard American Diets or Mediterranean Diets and the like are getting most of their calories from plant foods from all the empty calories coming from grains and other carbohydrates. Many health figures in this space say things like "a plant heavy diet" or "fill half your plate up with greens" and people take this as being akin to a vegetarian diet. As I showed in my post, a daily intake where about 70% of the plates are filled with plants are actually 92% animal foods by calories. I actually eat this way a lot. This is carnivore adjacent and is part of the Sapien Framework. You're still getting a ton of flavor, variety, and nutrients from plants (even though they're not as bioavailable), but you're really getting 90% of your calories from animal foods. So make your own decision on the ratio of plant to animal foods, but from what I've found, higher animal foods is more species appropriate for homo sapiens, and is actually what most people avoiding empty calorie, nutrient poor foods are already doing. As always, I didn't want to press him on this. I don't invite people on my podcast to tell them I don't agree with their opinions. I'd love for this to be debated with a moderator at some point, but as long as it's a 1 on 1 Peak Human podcast I'm letting the guest speak their minds. Here's a bit of Dr. Bredesen's extensive resume. He received his undergraduate degree from Caltech and his medical degree from Duke. He served as Resident and Chief Resident in Neurology at UCSF, he was the Director of the Easton Center for Alzheimer's Disease Research, he's a Professor in the Department of Molecular and Medical Pharmacology at UCLA School of Medicine, and the Founder of the Buck Institute for Research on Aging. The Bredesen Laboratory studies basic mechanisms underlying the neurodegenerative process, and the translation of this knowledge into effective therapeutics for Alzheimer's disease and other neurodegenerative conditions, leading to the publication of over 220 research papers. He and his group developed a new approach to the treatment of Alzheimer's disease, and this approach led to the discovery of subtypes of the disease, followed by the first description of reversal of symptoms in patients with MCI and Alzheimer's disease, with the ReCODE protocol, published in 2014, 2016, and 2018. His book, The End of Alzheimer's, is a New York Times Bestseller and has been translated into 29 languages. I'll largely skip the plugs for today. Everyone listening knows about the Food Lies film on Indiegogo, the Patreon at http://patreon.com/peakhuman and my new grass fed meat company http://NoseToTail.org If you find any value in this podcast or my other content on YouTube or social media channels, please consider supporting me and my projects there. I wish I could really get across how much it means to me. It's honestly the only way any of this is possible. Thanks so much, and I'll most likely end season 3 with this episode and come back in a couple weeks with an amazing season 4. Here's the future legend, Dr. Dale Bredesen. BUY THE MEAT NosetoTail.org Preorder Food Lies: http://indiegogo.com/projects/food-lies-post Support me on Patreon! http://patreon.com/peakhuman SHOW NOTES Dr. Bredesen has been studying the phenomenon of Alzheimer's Disease (AD) for 3 decades and have published over 200 papers on his research Understanding the fundamental nature of the disease is how we can design an effective treatment His protocol is different because it targets the root cause, not the symptoms like most AD drugs do Humans are extremely complicated and there is no one single therapy that will treat the complexity of AD AD is the result of the brain protecting itself from different insults The protective response in the brain causes the brain to shrink and "retreat" so that there is less for foreign substances (insults) to target Amyloids are antimicrobial, bi

Hello again, my friends. Welcome back, I'm Brian Sanders and this the podcast that you just turned on and don't need a reminder on what it's called. But maybe you need a reminder of my name because I didn't put it on the cover art and I didn't put a picture of myself with my shirt off… yet. That's how you'll know it's a real podcast in the Fitness & Nutrition section of iTunes. Until then, I'll just say hello again to return listeners and if this is your first episode make sure to start back at episode one. Every episode is important and a valuable piece of this elaborate web we call nutrition and health. I had a great time kicking back with the Fat Burning Man Abel James in this episode today. We are on a really similar paths and believe in a lot of the same things. He has a degree from Dartmouth in Psychological and Brain Sciences, he's the author of The Wild Diet, he's a radio show host, musician, and was also featured on the ABC show Diet Wars where he helped his contestant Kurt lose 50 pounds in 6 weeks using, you guessed it, a high fat diet. He's a great resource for everyday living and tips and an awesome member of the community. Let's get to the episode after a few brief updates of what's going on lately. We're selling out of a lot of the great grass finished sustainably raised meats at http://NoseToTail.org Maybe don't try to put in an order just yet. It's a complicated process to use an entire animal, butcher it into all the cuts, manage an inventory, and ship it out across the country. In the meantime if you'd like to support this show you can become a member of the tribe on Patreon at http://patreon.com/peakhuman. You'll get access to the comprehensive show notes Keto Kristi does there. It really will help to keep this content free. And if you're one of the few people who hasn't pre-ordered the Food Lies film you can do so at http://indiegogo.com/projects/food-lies-post I'm about to put in another Eat Meat shirt order so grab one on Indiegogo quick. This really is a tribe and the whole community is involved in making it work. Thanks so much, I really can't express how appreciative I am of everyone. Let's hear from the fat burning fella himself, Abel James. BUY THE MEAT NosetoTail.org Preorder Food Lies: http://indiegogo.com/projects/food-lies-post Support me on Patreon! http://patreon.com/peakhuman SHOW NOTES SHOW NOTES Travelling opened his eyes to other ideas around food and the culture around foods There is a lot of tradition around food that people in the US are not aware of Fast food and institutions changed the traditions in the Western world Our ancestors had the right instincts around food, our grandparents never ate like we do now It just takes a little bit of common sense to realize why our current nutrition climate is flawed quote from Nina Teicholz "but like lost languages, lost skills, and lost songs, it takes only a few generations to forget" We live in this world where things are supposed to be getting better and improving yet we have so many problems Abel's technology detox went as long as 8 months If you believe in fasting than you should believe in taking breaks from technology We should be eating seasonally How he turned to a minimalist lifestyle, sold all his belongings, and travelled around with his wife His "Wild Diet" is based on eating whole foods, primarily seasonal vegetables and meat Most of your energy will come from fat if you are eating an ancestral diet You can abuse anything that starts out as healthy, so eat seasonally The American diet has extremely low diversity, ancestrally we had a lot of diversity in the diet Eating intuitively On a day to day basis he incorporates fasting, he started with 16/8 but now he prefers to eat only one meal a day which comes naturally for him He breaks his fast with some raw vegetables and bone broth, and for dinner he will have a home-made meal Eating out all the time likely leads to eating poor quality food He packs his own food when he travels When you prepare your own food, you know what's in it, you have confidence in it and you won't be blindsided by foods that set off cravings for days It's important to recognize your "trigger foods" Are the foods you are eating making you hungrier or satiating? This is a good compass and very telling of if you are eating the right foods The words "paleo" and "keto" are misleading people to think these are health foods when they are still hyper-palatable processed foods If he wants to celebrate with food he will make a healthier alternative He was featured on the TV show: ABC TV called Diet Wars, a fitness and weight loss competition where trainers/coaches compete to get their clients to lose weight His client lost 82 pounds and has kept the weight off after a few years During the Biggest Loser, everyone regained all their weight or more, it's not healthy to lose weight extremely quickly or in unhealthy ways there are ways to do it healthy His strategy was to eat whole foods, embracting fat,

You guys are in for a treat. Dr. Frank Mitloehner is about to destroy every argument every anti-meat propaganda spewing know-it-all has ever let slip from their quinoa-loving lips. I'd list them all to get you fired up, but it would take too long. You're just going to have to listen up and pay attention to every second of this episode. Dr. Mitloehner has a masters in Agricultural Engineering and Animal Science from University of Leipzig, Germany, and a PhD in Animal Science from Texas Tech University. He's currently a professor and air quality specialist at UC Davis and conducts research and outreach that is directly relevant to understanding and mitigating air emissions and greenhouse gases from livestock operations, as well as the implications of these emissions for the health and safety of farm workers and neighboring communities. He has served as chairman of a global United Nations Food and Agriculture Organization (FAO) hosted partnership project to benchmark the environmental footprint of livestock production. This is big, everyone. He'll talk about how he helped correct the FAO data (which is the world leader in this kind of information). These are the bogus statistics used in the film Cowspiracy and that vegan activists still try to use today. He corrected the scientists and showed that the numbers were completely false. He's also published dozens of papers on the topics we'll be discussing today and travels the world giving lectures on this as well. All this talk about livestock is making me hungry. I'll have to drop a plug in for my grass fed meat company Nose to Tail which you can find at http://NoseToTail.org It's keeping this podcast alive and hopefully me as well. We have some amazing products like the Primal Lite ground beef with liver, kidney, and heart mixed right in. It's so good, I've been eating a lot of it lately, and you don't even taste all those nutrient dense bits and pieces. This is such a great way to get in your vitamins and minerals. It's basically the world's best multivitamin - a delicious patty of sustainably grown beef raised right here in Texas. We've got great boxes you can get delivered to your door or you can also create your own. You gotta at least check this stuff out at http://NoseToTail.org I spent a long time creating the site myself and am very proud of it. If great steak isn't your thing then you also can support this show on Patreon at http://patreon.com/peakhuman or click through the show notes. For a few dollars a month you can keep this thing chuggin along and also get the full extended show notes. These things are like a free college education… or better. Like this podcast, a lot of work has been put in them. You can also grab the "It's what else you EAT not the MEAT" t-shirts while getting a copy of the Food Lies film at http://Indiegogo.com/projects/food-lies-post We still definitely need your support as we try to scrape enough money together to keep these editors fed. They're down for the cause. They're eating beef and skipping out on those worthless carbs and sugars. Trust me, they're living this stuff and making this film the best it can be. So keep me from taking on any outside sponsors and support these worthy causes and ventures. I really appreciate it everyone, this wouldn't be possible without the generous support of the community. Thanks again and here's Dr. Frank Mitloehner, my new favorite guy around. EAT The MEAT http://NoseToTail.org SHOW NOTES What he does on a day to day basis to study animal agriculture, emissions, air quality, and climate change Vegan propaganda films like Cowspiracy made people believe animal agriculture caused more GHG than the whole transportation industry The report "Livestock's Long Shadow" was publicly retracted https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/earth/environment/climatechange/7509978/UN-admits-flaw-in-report-on-meat-and-climate-change.html He helped to show that they used totally different inputs and methods that In California transportation is responsible for 50% of all emissions and livestock is only responsible for 5% In the US livestock is actually 3.9% of direct GHG emissions and all fossil fuel sources combined is 80% according to the EPA What is a Life Cycle Assessment (LCA) and what is it for beef? They created the global partnership LEAP which he was the first chairman of Created global guidelines to circumvent these problems for the future but many people still use these flawed statistics despite knowing they are wrong Those that are anti-meat fall closer to that of a religion than of dietary preference Cattle are raised on pasture for 2/3 of its life (regardless of if they are grass-finished or grain-finished) When calculating water needed to raise cattle, rain water (green water) was included which is not sensible Water that goes into an animal is excreted and serves as fertilizer, it's a cycle Water needed to make almond milk vs dairy milk is 17X higher The water argument for fruits and vegetables vs anim

We're back for the conclusion of this mighty animal vs. plant food discussion. Paul is a beast on this science and I think it's really interesting to think about this in a whole new way than most of the mainstream nutrition world has for the past 60 years. We're a day late because I've been desperately trying to launch my Grass Fed meat company Nose to Tail which you can find at NosetoTail.org which we mention in this episode. I couldn't release this episode until the website was live. So guess what? We're now selling grass finished American-grown beef raised in the heart of America in Northeast Texas as of right now. I've spent over a year figuring this out and searching for the right ranch to partner with. My guy is the real deal. We have grass fed, grass finished beef, buffalo and lamb, pasture raised Omega-3 pork, and omega-3 chicken. We specially formulate the diet of the pigs and chicken for an incredible Omega-6 to Omega-3 ratio is 1.5:1 to 1.7:1. This is huge. If you've been listening to the experts I've been interviewing we want our ratio right around this range. We sent the pork and chicken to a lab for analysis and you can see the full fatty acid profile results on my site Nose To Tail.org. To give some context this blows away even pastured poultry at an 8:1 ratio and free range poultry at an 18:1 ratio. Our pork tested at 1.5:1 and conventional pork is 20:1. I'm most excited about the primal mixes. We have beef, buffalo, and pork primal mixes with either 30% organ meat mixed in or 5%. We're talking liver, heart, kidney, and spleen. You can get all the extra nutrients without dealing with the taste that is harsh for some. At the risk of going on too long, we also are offering tins of cod liver in their own oil, wild caught sardines, and bone meal. These things round out the ultimate nose to tail diet and are what I've been eating regularly in my diet. So many great things with these including huge amounts of omega-3s, huge amounts of vitamin A, calcium, magnesium, phosphorous, the list goes on. Just check out NosetoTail.org and check out all the boxes and products. I'm so excited about this I can't believe it's finally here. This is such a win-win-win-win-win. It's good for your health, it's supporting an amazing ranch, it's helping regenerate the soil and the environment, the animals are raised well and are happy, and it even supports me so I can keep putting out this content and finish the Food Lies film, etc. Thanks so much and I know you're going to enjoy it. Now onto the rest of the discussion with Paul. We cover everything else you can imagine from coffee, more plant toxins, longevity and anti-aging research, the Blue Zones myth, advanced glycation end products and heterocyclic amines in cooked meat, mTor, the balance of Methionine to Glycine (which is another reason to eat Nose to Tail and why not buy it from NosetoTail.org and get the best stuff around), Paul's workouts, inflammation, APOe4, safest plant foods, and more. This is an episode where you really need the extended show notes Kristi has been doing that are available to Patreon supporters. You can go to http://Patreon.com/peakhuman and support the show there and get access to the very comprehensive show notes she put tons of time into from this week and last, plus from Dr. Thomas Seyfried and Dave Feldman. So now you have a whole bunch of ways to support the show and the film from $2 on Patreon, to preordering the film and getting your name in the credits on Indiegogo, all the way up to a giant $200 box of grass fed meat delivered to your door. I really appreciate your support and let's jump in with Paul and hear why eating nose to tail is so great. BUY THE MEAT NosetoTail.org Show Notes Recap on last episode - fiber, polyphenols, plant toxins, no need for hormetic stressors when we can mimic them with lifestyle stressors such as exercise, cold stress, heat stress, etc. Risk of thyroid impairments from sulforaphane Bruce Ames paper: Dietary pesticides 99.99% all natural Carcinogens in coffee Dangers of oxalates Tea, coffee, and oxalates What are lectins and how do they disrupt the gut Phytic acid as a plant anti-nutrient Minerals in plants are bound to phytic acid and render them non-bioavailable Paul's own personal cutting out grains and having major benefits on his stress fractures from ultramarathon running Resveratrol and its benefits but also its autoimmune potential Anti-aging research is becoming a stream of biohacking and using molecules instead of diet and lifestyle All the benefits from these anti-aging molecules can be achieved through living a "radical" life We have enough stressors in our modern environment, we don't need more from plants Carcinogens and cooked meat Polycyclic Aromatic Hydrocarbons (PAHs) and Heterocyclic Amines (HCAs) in cooked meat and how to cook your meat to limit them Advanced Glycation End Products (AGEs) are in cooked plants and meat Acrylamide in coffee The dangers of a carnivorous lifestyle E

Wow. Get ready for this one, everyone. Paul and I have been talking constantly for weeks and we have something special for you. This is a 2 part, 4 hour series that covers everything you can imagine on plant and animal foods. If this is your first time listening, make sure to go back and start at episode 1. To catch people up I'm Brian Sanders and I've quit my job and dedicated my life to studying health and nutrition. I'm trying my best to be unbiased and to simplify the conflicting advice out there and distill down concepts into something anyone can understand. I'm not a doctor or nutritionist. I'm a mechanical engineer and I've lost both of my parents to chronic disease and have set off on my own path for the last 4 years to study this topic and make sure I don't fall to the same fate. My role is the curator, the communicator, the curious mind collecting and spreading this information. I've interviewed over 100 of the top scientists, doctors, nutritionists, fitness experts, and other health professionals and have come to find some simple truths that I'd like to share. Today I'm talking to Dr. Paul Saladino who received his MD from the University of Arizona and is also a Certified Functional Medicine Practitioner. He has quickly become one of the leading voices and experts on animal-based diets and nose to tail eating. He's a good friend and a wealth of knowledge. We just got back from Paleo f(x) in Austin and are getting ready to shoot the final interview for the Food Lies film. You guys are in for a treat. But first I have to ask for your support. I'm working almost every night until midnight these days trying to keep up with all my projects and content creation. So far I've done this all for free and it's taking a toll on me and definitely my non-existent bank account. You can support me directly by joining my Patreon - you can go to http://Patreon.com/peakhuman or search for Peak Human on Patreon, or of course click through in the show notes. A couple dollars a month goes a long way. You can also support me through the Food Lies film which is still on Indiegogo. We have all kinds of great perks like your name in the credits, the Eat Meat shirt, and the Real Foods coin. Thanks so much, I really appreciate it, and it's not possible without you. Now please enjoy the wise words of Dr. Paul Saladino. Preorder Food Lies: http://indiegogo.com/projects/food-lies-post Support me on Patreon! http://patreon.com/peakhuman SHOW NOTES Food directly contacts our body everyday Food is a signal to the body and affects us on a cellular level, it is so much more than calories and macros If your blood markers improve on a vegan diet your doctor would praise you, if you told them you did it with a carnivore diet they would tell you to stop People have a very difficult time believing that plants could be bad High D15 nitrogen values in the bones and collagen of neanderthals and early humans confirm humans were eating primarily animals Studies referenced: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6421459/ https://www.pnas.org/content/106/38/16034 https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-019-41033-3 Humans evolved as facultative carnivores Plants were our fallback foods during times of starvation "Thriving vegans" would probably thrive more if they ate animals If you enjoy plants eat them but animal foods are the ideal foods for humans Study showing male height is associated with high quality animal proteins Eating nose to tail is basically a multivitamin for humans in the most bioavailable form There are no unique nutrients in plants that we can't get from animals The history of fiber and how it got associated with health No real evidence to suggest fiber protects against colon cancer Meat does not cause colon cancer Major flaws in the fiber deprived mice study showing mucosal layer in the gut degraded in the absence of fiber but with no symptoms or association with disease or inflammation Fiber and health is based on epidemiology and confounded with healthy user bias Asian countries show opposite association between meat and all-cause mortality than western countries Plant sources of vitamins and minerals are either in a non-bioavailable form or bound to other minerals that inhibit their absorption Vitamin C requirements are a lot less than we think Polyphenols are plant defense molecules What are free radicals? Polyphenols trigger our own antioxidant defenses but we can get these same responses with less damaging stressors like exercise, cold therapy, or sauna Sulforaphane can be harmful even if it does trigger a hormetic response Sulforaphane inhibits iodine absorption and can lead to hypothyroid Herbivores co-evolved with plants and have different strategies to deal with plant toxins than humans Fruits and vegetables have never actually been shown to have any benefit in humans in controlled studies Curcumin shows results in a test tube but there are no double blind placebo controlled clinical trials to show that it is

Welcome back everyone, I'm Brian Sanders and I'm the founder of Sapien.org and the filmmaker behind the feature-length documentary Food Lies. Today we have fellow filmmaker and neighbor of mine, Chris Bell. We're making similar films and have a lot of similar ideas on nutrition. We're both coming at it from different angles and I think they're going to really push the movement forward in unique ways. He has some solid advice on filmmaking as well as life. All the films he has made are awesome and he's a really interesting and genuine guy. I definitely enjoyed spending time with him talking about all my favorite topics. You can get the Real Foods coin I gave him in the middle of the episode on our Indiegogo page while getting a copy of the Food Lies film. They're these nice, large metal challenge coins I designed and are actually really cool. We might only have 10 left so get them while you can. If you've already preordered the film or don't have the cash lying around to do so, and you're getting some value from this podcast, I've also made a Patreon to help support this show and keep it ad-free. People have been reaching out to sponsor it but I've been turning them down. I'd rather give this brief message here in the beginning allowing the community support it instead of having to break for annoying ads, even if the products are something I believe in. Thanks for making this possible - just go to Patreon.com/peakhuman or click through the link in the show notes and you can throw as little as $2 per month at this endeavor and keep it afloat. I sincerely appreciate it and really love our tribe we are forming. I'll be at Paleo f(x) this weekend so give me a shout if you're there. Now here's Chris Bell. Support me on Patreon! http://patreon.com/peakhuman SHOW NOTES We've met up a lot lately and realized we definitely not making the same film Vinnie Tortorich is also making a great film to complete the trifecta called Fat Filmmaking is a long, slow process The film changed once he got his parents involved He some health problems and an epiphany They started out wanting to call it War On Carbs Struggle with addiction is real He made the film Bigger, Faster, Stronger which is awesome. He looks a lot better than he did 10 years ago when he filmed it Going back to the beginning with powerlifting and his brother Mark Bell He doesn't believe there's any evidence for needing carbs to build muscle You can see his photos on a keto diet and carnivore diet http://instagram.com/bigstrongfast Steroid use The war against carbs is his personal journey Eating well is "sobriety from bad foods" Spread messages through love instead of hate Vegan bodybuilders Being fit is synonymous with being healthy for the most part and also very important as you age He made the movie A Leaf of Faith about kratom Feedlot beef vs. grass finished, omega 3 to omega 6 ratio, and all the intricacies Who do you believe in all this conflicting information? Colesterol, LDL, statins, and metformin He also made the movie Prescription Thugs How do you know when the documentary is finished and you found the story? We watch vegan content to make sure we're on track and not ruining the world Carnivore adjacent The SAPIEN diet is just eating for nutrient density, focusing on protein, embracing fat, and minimizing carbs http://sapien.org/diet His movie is turning more into a family story Chris Bell on Instagram http://instagram.com/bigstrongfast Preorder the film here: http://indiegogo.com/projects/food-lies-post Support me on Patreon! http://patreon.com/peakhuman Film site: http://FoodLies.org YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/FoodLies Sapien Movement: http://SapienMovement.com Follow along: http://twitter.com/FoodLiesOrg http://instagram.com/food.lies http://facebook.com/FoodLiesOrg Theme music by https://kylewardmusic.com/

Sally Norton has a degree in nutrition from Cornell University and a Masters of Public Health from the UNiversity of North Carolina. She managed a five-year, National Institute of Health-funded program at the UNC Medical School. She's a nutrition consultant, speaker, and an all around oxalate expert. This is a sad story with a happy ending. Sally's life goal from age 5 was to study nutrition and help people be healthy. She followed all the traditional advice and ate a very plant-heavy vegetarian and even vegan diet only to have 30 years of health problems because of that diet. At first all this oxalate stuff is hard to believe. It's talked about so little and there's not a lot of mainstream knowledge on it in the medical community. We talk some real science a little ways into the episode, so know it's coming. Also for people who may be skeptical of how bad oxalates are you can go to the vegan site veganhealth.org/oxalate and see the comprehensive mile-long list of problems and warnings about oxalates. Yes, a vegan site warning about plant food dangers. This is not some wacky carnivore idea people. I just started a Patreon for this podcast. I really want to keep this ad-free and I'm getting multiple offers for sponsorships. This is a huge amount of work I do completely on my own and I don't think I have the bandwidth to keep it up much longer. I'll spare you the details of how many hours it takes me weekly to put it out, but just know it's way more than you think. I'll continue keeping this a high quality and from what I've heard valuable resource for people if I can get the support of the community. We are a tribe and everyone does their part to keep things moving. I appreciate all the messages I get that help keep me motivated when the hours get long. Even people's suggestions on guests really help. This episode was possible from 1 or 2 listeners who kept mentioning Sally and her work. Thanks so much for supporting me in all my efforts. This will allow me to keep putting out content on Instagram, Twitter, Facebook, and YouTube as well. Please go to Patreon.com/peakhuman and become a member of the tribe there. Just a couple dollars a month really helps. You can also get more perks like extended show notes and bonus content we're just beginning to put out or an invite to the private Slack group. That's http://Patreon.com/peakhuman Thanks in advance, and here's Sally Norton. Preorder the film: http://indiegogo.com/projects/food-lies-post SHOW NOTES Sally had a lifelong quest to be in the nutrition and wellness space Despite eating plant-based diets all her life and focusing on what she thought was good nutrition, she had major health problems Some books convinced her to vegan and soon she could barely walk up and down stairs and got pneumonia multiple times per year She finally figured out it was the build up of oxalated from all the plants foods she was eating She published a great paper "Lost Seasonality and Overconsumption of Plants: Risking Oxalate Toxicity" https://jevohealth.com/journal/vol2/iss3/4/ How come she has all this training and she didn't know a thing about oxalates? We actually knew about oxalates in the 1700s and 1800s Populations like the Irish drank a lot of tea, ate a lot of potatoes, had greens in season, and rhubarb in the spring - all of these have high oxalate Spinach and whole grains have a lot of oxalate They did tests on rats to see calcium absorption of and we saw that spinach wasn't delivering calcium - same for iron and folate The nutrients also degrade quickly unless the spinach is kept very cold the entire time after harvest (which is basically impossible) All USDA data on nutrition in plant foods are wrong and don't account for bioavailability Nutrients drop significantly in spinach after harvest, especially when not refrigerated to a very cold 4 degrees celsius More and more people are heading towards mostly animal foods as they learn about bioavailability and antinutrients and listen to their body The carnivore movement has been great to just let people know it's ok to eat only animal foods World War 1 is when we started relying on fallback plant foods she thinks. We invented the idea of the victory garden I was out with a girl from Peru who was laughing at Americans for eating green vegetables - the mainly eat meat, fish, and starches. She talks about why we even think vegetables are so great in the first place Our natural state is now a diseased state Biggest current problems are toxicity and deficiency High oxalate foods: nuts, seeds, brassica veg, potatoes, some berries If doctors don't have a remedy for it, you don't have a disease Calcium is being blamed for what oxalates are doing Science behind oxalates Range of oxalate poisoning that could kill you is 3.5 grams - 30 grams A guy died of oxalate poisoning from sorrel soup Cases of people with permanent kidney damage from juice/smoothie cleanses Kidney disease is on the rise faster than anything in the last few decade

Today we have a double header with 2 great figures as well as athletes in the low carb community. Zach Bitter is the 100 mile American record holder and 12 hour world record holder for ultramarathons. He hosts the Human Performance Outliers podcast with Dr. Shawn Baker and has learned many lessons from amazing people along the way. He has wealth of knowledge of fat adapted athletics and fueling himself with meat while healing his body. But first we have Dr. Mark Cucuzzella who is a Professor of Medicine at West Virginia University medical school, Fellow of the American Academy of Family Physicians, a Family physician for 20 years, and a Lt Col in the US Air Force Reserves. He's doing such great work in his hospital and community and has implemented some very beneficial programs. He's a great guy and was a big supporter of the film early on. He brings up that Zach Bitter was actually in the FASTER study that previous podcast guest Dr. Jeff Volek famously did that rewrote the textbooks on fat oxidation. Lot's of good stuff her beyond running! Thanks again for helping us finish the Indiegogo campaign. We hit our goal, but that certainly wasn't the amount needed to finish the film. You can still preorder a copy of Food Lies on Indiegogo by clicking through FoodLies.org. Get the limited edition Eat Meat shirt there and check out the other perks - that's at FoodLies.org. A quick update about me - I just started training for a Decathlon at UCLA. I'm going to do it running on meat and fat. Many of you probably saw the video of me pole vaulting for the first time in over 16 years on social media. This is going to be awesome. Everyone there thinks I'm insane for doing it at 35 while never having done most of the events before, let alone all of them in 2 days at the Masters Championships in Iowa. Also the mostly eating meat, fish, and eggs thing is really tripping them out. Follow along on social media. Also I'll have a totally unrelated big announcement in the upcoming weeks. Stay tuned - I'm very excited. Now here's Mark and Zach. http://indiegogo.com/projects/food-lies-post Support me on Patreon! http://patreon.com/peakhuman Show notes Zach Bitter Hosts the Human Performance Outliers podcast with Dr. Shawn Baker He holds the 100 mile American record with an average pace of 7 minutes per mile He also holds the world record for farthest distance run in 12 hours He spent the first half of his running career on the conventional high carb diet that all runners believe is best He followed a whole foods approach with lots of whole grains, fruits, and vegetables - no processed foods or junk food At age 24/25 he was having some bad symptoms that shouldn't face a young man in his prime He wasn't sleeping well, he didn't have sustained energy throughout the day, and had poor recovery after workouts He looked towards nutrition as a cure and found the low carb, high fat diet Got turned on to Dr. Phinney and Dr. Volek early on so he had a solid approach to transitioning into fat-adaptation correctly He transitioned in the off-season and sleep and energy immediately improved Recovery and mobility greatly improved after races once fat-adapted What are some other sports where it's good to be fat-adapted? It seems to be dependent on how soon you're going to train again. If it's only once per day it seems carbs aren't really necessary. 2 sessions per day, probably yes. He only needs carbs when doing intensity plus high volume. Either one separately he doesn't. How he got into the carnivore world He's done 73 podcast episodes with various experts and has learned a lot 2 big things are that vegetables aren't really necessary it seems and there's a lot of myths about protein that are turning out to not be true. There's probably no such thing as too much protein My ultra simplistic theory is that animal foods are +1, processed foods are -1, and plant foods are just neutral (or 0). Plant foods aren't doing much for you other than taking up space in your stomach from things that could be worse. The real nutrition is from the animal foods. He agrees with this and builds his meals around fatty meat, eggs, and some full fat dairy He ferments his own vegetables If you have digestive problems try doing only animal foods and add stuff back in slowly and carefully to track it Hunter gatherers used to eat (and still do) fermented plant matter out of animal's stomachs, especially in cold environments when that was their only vegetation Check out the HPO podcast he does with Shawn Baker Zach does running and nutrition coaching - find him at zachbitter.com He's on twitter at twitter.com/zbitter and Instagram at instagram.com/zachbitter Mark Cucuzzella SHOW NOTES Mark is a doctor in West Virginia doing great things for his community and grew up as a runner He's appeared in a lot of big news articles and news segments over the years https://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/06/magazine/running-christopher-mcdougall.html https://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.

Dr. Thomas Seyfried is a Professor of Biology at Boston College, and received his Ph.D. in Genetics and Biochemistry from the University of Illinois. He then worked as an assistant professor in the neurology department at the Yale school of medicine. He has over 180 peer-reviewed publications and is author of the book, Cancer as a Metabolic Disease. He recently received a Lifetime Achievement Award from the Academy of Complimentary and Integrative Medicine. I got a chance to meet and interview him at the Metabolic Health Summit earlier this year. You'll notice we did this podcast shortly after the Super Bowl. In case people aren't familiar with American football the New England Patriots had just beaten the LA Rams. I hope people look up the paper he recently published that we mention and watch his presentation I linked to in the show notes and go deeper on this topic. It's very surprising to learn of this completely new view on cancer if you haven't heard of it before. This really shouldn't be very surprising to anyone, however, because of course our modern diet and lifestyle would have the biggest effect on the rising cancer rates. And of course fixing these things would also be a major part of the treatment. He's really doing legendary work. So without further ado, here's professor Seyfried. You can still preorder a copy of Food Lies on Indiegogo even though our campaign just ended. We still need your support to finish post production. http://indiegogo.com/projects/food-lies-post Support me on Patreon! http://patreon.com/peakhuman Show Notes Dr. Thomas Seyfried believes cancer is a metabolic disease, not a genetic disease and explains in simple terms why that is The mitochondria in your cells make energy (ATP) There's 2 types of energy: ancient energy which is a fermentation metabolism which means you can make energy without oxygen, or respiration where you make energy from breathing air Cancer cells ferment - therefore they don't use oxygen Not all cancer cells have genetic mutations, but all cancer cells ferment The mitochondrial metabolic theory says that the organelle that makes energy from respiration is defective, forcing the cell to ferment. When the cell ferments, mutations collect in the nucleus This means the genetic mutations seen in cancer cells come from a downstream effect of disruption of energy metabolism The cancer cell has to consume a large amount of glucose and the amino acid glutamine in order to survive on a fermentation metabolism On the other hand, normal cells use oxygen and very little amounts of glucose This should make sense to a lot of people because they've probably heard cancer cells need a lot of glucose and if you starve them of that they die Have to re-emphasize the fact that the DNA damage comes as a downstream effect Damaged mitochondria, instead of making ATP, make Reactive Oxygen Species (ROS) or oxidative stress (which causes a lot of problems in our body) The oxidative stress also causes damage to the nucleus and the genome The field of cancer research studies effects instead of causes We're not treating cancer by looking at the root cause - it's absurd - how would we ever cure it? This is supported by thousands of experiments and studies Obvious step to treat cancer is to deprive the cancer cells of glucose and glutamine and transition healthy cells into the use of ketones which they can readily use We evolved as a starving creature and convert fatty acids into ketones and usable forms of energy Cancer cells can't use ketones There's no dietary way to restrict glutamine to the cancer cells so drugs have to be used Basically nobody he's heard of is treating it this way If it's so clear this is how cancer works, why has this not reached the mainstream? The Federal government puts out websites saying cancer is genetic, medical schools teach it's genetic, leading cancer clinics tell patients it's genetic Entrenched beliefs continue this. Also funding money is all based around the genetic theory If you look at the mitochondria of any cancer cell under an electron microscope you can easily see the damage to the organelles and mitochondria Cancer is a result of the industrialization as a society Cancer is so rare throughout history or with non-industrialized societies they don't even have the word for it in their language Cancer comes from all kinds of things like pollution, chemicals, radiation, hypoxia, infections, chronic inflammation, even some rare inherited diseases like BRCA1 (but it has to damage the mitochondria) These are all secondary - the root cause is damage to the respiration Obese people have higher rates of cancer and also higher inflammation (measured by C reactive protein) To avoid cancer it's as simple as avoiding diets and lifestyles that risk damage to the mitochondria Metabolic therapies need to at least be options for people Problem is doctors aren't aware of them or aren't trained on them Therapeutic ketosis is a medicine - it's different than jus

Dave Feldman is a senior software engineer, lipid and cholesterol investigator, and self-experimenter. He's done a ton of tests on himself over the past 4 years that are making huge waves in the nutrition world. He's helping the world rethink cholesterol and go away from the standard lipid hypothesis to the energy model of how our lipid system works. He's got a great facebook group with an active audience of Lean Mass Hyper Responders. He also travels around the country speaking at conferences This is a must-listen if you have high LDL cholesterol on a high fat diet or still think that cholesterol is bad. You should also go back and listen to the Ivor Cummins episode in season 1 which gives more of a foundation of knowledge and a bunch of other great info on the topic. We jump straight in and get technical in the beginning, but stick around. We backtrack and give a lot more context and explain things more clearly. You'll want to keep going even if we get into the weeds because we come out again and go over a lot of useful information and ideas. This might be the last time you hear from me before the Food Lies Indiegogo campaign ends. This is the last chance to preorder the film and support us. The crowdfunding ends Monday, April 1st at midnight. We have a ways to go, but if we get support in these last few days I think we'll hit our goal. We're still looking for private investors who want to get equity in the film by contributing $15k or more. Please reach out or pass this along if this is a possibility. Thanks so much, I'm really in love with this community. You've all been so supportive and it looks like we're going to be able to make a super high quality film to get this information out to the world without any outside interests or producers stepping in and influencing the message. Click through the link in the show notes or from FoodLies.org. Now let's hear from the great Dave Feldman. https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/food-lies-post Support me on Patreon! http://patreon.com/peakhuman Show Notes We jump straight into his carnivore experiment He unexpectedly had very high triglycerides after a short time eating only beef products How much things like fasting affect lipid tests New blood test protocol doesn't even ask you to fast even though if you're eating a low carb diet and eat a fatty meal before your blood test you're loading your body temporarily full of triglycerides that will throw off the test We back up a bit and start from the begining with his story of how he got into this cholesterol world Cholesterol is like a distributed systems network The less fat he ate (on a keto ratio) the higher his cholesterol would go. So to lower his cholesterol he would just have to eat more fat before his test This is disrupting the whole standard medical community in 2 ways - they don't think it can change that much over the course of a few days, and it's also the opposite of what they say - they believe more fat should be bad What is the lipid hypothesis? There's no study that really confirms this hypothesis He thinks LDL particles have 2 purposes - first to deliver energy, then to patrol The energy delivery might only be an hour, but they can "patrol" for 2-4 days There's other purposes we haven't even studied much like immune response They can bind to pathogens or can provide alpha tocopherol to reactive oxygen species to turn them into non-reactive products Ambulances, accidents, and aliens All cause mortality and lower LDL does NOT correlate as the standard narrative suggests it should People go on low carb or keto diets and every single thing in their life and lipid panel improves except for this 1 factor - LDL He's been developing what he calls "the energy model" for how lipids work He runs a Facebook group called Lean Mass Hyper Responders for a certain type of people who are lean and fit on a LCHF diet who have super good HDL and triglycerides but super high LDL He polled the group and the vast majority report they feel better to significantly better This "cholesterol is bad" stuff has been hammered into him for so long he may never believe anything otherwise He did a 3.5 hour podcast with Peter Attia (who was in ketosis for 3 years straight) who still looks at cholesterol in the context of a Standard American Diet of trash The group of LMHR people is really interesting to study because they also have super low cardiovascular disease markers The podcast with Peter had some positive outcomes His CIMT (Carotid intima-media thickness) tests that he does regularly to measure his CVD risk factor It actually got a lot better since transitioning from his SAD diet to keto, even though doctors say that's not even possible He then made his score get worse eating white bread, pizza, and a high carb + high fat killer combo diet and gaining a lot of weight He then got it to drop back down again on a keto diet all while having 200+ LDL-C and 2000+ LDL-P Doing exactly the opposite of what the literature says should

Today I'm talking to the legendary Mark Sisson. For many people, including myself, he's the person who got them interested in ancestral health and sent them down a path of feeling great, losing weight, curing problems they didn't even know they had or could be treated, and more. He's been an inspiration to millions and has spent most of his life on a pursuit of health knowledge. He's been writing his blog Mark's Daily Apple for 13 years as well as publishing best-selling books such as The Primal Blueprint and the Keto Reset Diet. He also travels the world giving talks and is the founder of Primal Kitchen. He's 65 and living better than most 20 year olds. I saw this first hand filming with him in Miami Beach and running around with him on the ultimate frisbee field. He is a role model of how to look, live, and feel as you enter the latter part of your life. This probably isn't new information to anyone listening so I'll just get to our talk already. Of course I have to mention the Food Lies film crowdfunding first. There's only 12 days left in the Indiegogo campaign and we have a long way to go. This is when we really need your help. It's the last crowdfunding we'll do and we need to hit our goal to make this film. I know it's been a long process and people are tired of hearing about it, but it's the only way this can be made. We have no outside investors. This is a group effort by the community to make an important piece of history. This will help change the world's view of food and human health. Documentaries like this are the best way to inform the public of this important information and open people's eyes. If you're listening to this podcast you probably know most of this stuff already - the problem is 98% of the world doesn't! They're not going to read all the studies and books and watch all the lectures that you have. They need to see this presented to them in a simple and entertaining audio-visual format that they can stream from the comfort of their own home on a wednesday night. Let's make this happen. Please go to FoodLies.org and click through to the Indiegogo page. That's FoodLies.org and you can also click through the link in the show notes. Thanks so much and here's Mark Sisson. http://indiegogo.com/projects/food-lies-post SHOW NOTES After about 25 years in Malibu he moved to Miami Beach I filmed with Mark in his awesome condo and then we played ultimate frisbee Mark has been in the health space for about 40 years and then got into ancestral health when it bloomed in the early 2000s He started with his blog about 15 years ago which helped get the community involved and his message honed He wrote The Primal Blueprint which is an amazing book that I continue to share with people as an entry point into ancestral health and nutrition Through your environment, actions, and what you eat you have control over your gene expression Our genes are awaiting information in order to act - epigenetic influences Primal laws to live by Rejecting modern norms leads to health - on either end of the spectrum The most important factor is what you're not eating Plant protein is less bioavailable and you're getting a bunch of extra carbs trying to get enough usable protein We are wired to overeat Our system of energy storage as fat is the most elegant, perfect design imaginable Our body doesn't want to maintain expensive machinery it doesn't use - most people only burn glucose and lose the ability to burn fat efficiently Being metabolically flexible is the win-win-win-win-win-win-win of nutrition and life Some keto people go too hard in the other direction and are too fat adapted and can't handle any bit of carbohydrate Some people use keto as a way to overeat and maintain their gluttony A lot of people doing keto for long periods don't have high ketone numbers - body adapts If you eat an appropriate amount of calories per day over your life you'll probably help not wear your body out and maybe live longer Everyone eats too many calories - he spells out a 1900 calorie day that should sustain anyone Stephan Guyenet's strategy to not overeat is to eat food that isn't that tasty His #1 goal in life is to live awesome and enjoy life - you can eat this way and still be healthy His pet theories on the obesity and chronic disease epidemic Access to these cheap, nutritionally devoid foods are at an all-time high He thinks industrial seed oils are the biggest problems in our food system and the most damaging to our health He carries around his own salad dressing made of avocado oil Primal Kitchen sold to Kraft-Heinz but will remain under his control and will maintain all the high quality ingredients The less glucose you burn in a lifetime the better Lifespan vs. healthspan - don't see these modern diseases in indigenous living populations "Live long, drop dead" People used to die from accidents, childbirth, traumatic events, and infectious diseases He defines quality of life as mobility and memory I eat this way because it's

Today we're talking to Stephan Guyenet who has a degree in biochemistry and a PhD in neuroscience. He's spent over 12 years in the neuroscience research world studying neurodegenerative disease and the neuroscience of body fatness. He wrote a great book called The Hungry Brain, speaks at conferences, is a Senior Fellow at GiveWell and scientific reviewer for the Examine.com Research Digest. He is definitely not a low carb person which is why I had him on. He has a lot of great ideas and is a great mind in the space of nutrition. It was very interesting to hear him talk about all the great benefits he did see when he ate a low carb diet 11 years ago. Make sure to listen until the end when he talks about this. He has some problems with certain people and aspects of the low carb community and is going on Joe Rogan's podcast soon to debate Gary Taubes on his views of the Carbohydrate Insulin theory of obesity and sugar being uniquely toxic We had some disagreement on the recommended daily allowance of nutrients - he thinks what's recommended is all you need and getting more than that is pointless. I think this is wrong. I think he's basing it on studies of worthless, non-bioavailable vitamin C pills that in excess do nothing. So in that - I agree. I don't think there's any benefit to popping a bunch of these and think we're going to cure a cold. I do know that our ancestors got estimates of 10-20 times the amount of nutrients we get today, so there's a lot more to this discussion that we didn't have time to get into. We also disagreed on fiber which led to some carnivore talk. He got some things wrong about the member of the Grateful Dead who was a carnivore. He said he died at a young age of a heart attack. I looked into it and it turns out he was carnivore for 48 years and was in excellent health and died in a car accident at 72. He also says we don't have longterm studies on the safety of low carb diets at the end. This isn't exactly true and furthermore, we have hundreds of thousands of years of human populations living on low carb diets to prove its safety and efficacy. He additionally mentions the low carb community makes crazy claims that aren't based on science. I'm not sure what he's referring to. Not everything can be measured anyway. If tens of thousands of people report to their doctor they aren't hungry anymore, their energy is stable, their brain is working better, they aren't addicted to sugar, they finally have control of their food intake, etc. then this is some great clinical observations and patient anecdotes that add up to a lot. I think everyone has their own ideas about things and collects info to support their opinion. It's only natural, and I'm sure I'm doing it to, even though I'm trying not to. Everyone has to be in their camp and collect data and narratives to support their theories. He seemed to do this as you'll see throughout the episode. I agreed with a lot of his points though, especially that humans didn't evolve to eat based on tracking macros and calories and using an excel spreadsheet to figure out what to eat. He's doing great work and looking at this from a different angle which is important. A lot of interesting stuff here so let's get to it. But first I gotta mention the Food Lies film which is in the last stretch of crowdfunding on Indiegogo. We really need your help to finish it. We have a bunch of cool perks like the Eat Meat T-shirt, the movie poster, bonus features, and more. Find it through FoodLies.org or by clicking through this link in the show notes. I really appreciate it - and now here's Stephan Guyenet. http://indiegogo.com/projects/food-lies-post Show Notes I'm obsessed with why we get fat and what to do about it and you've been researching this for a long time Why the brain is the most important place to focus on The brain regulates how much we eat, our food choices, and our exercise There's also non conscious processes the brain regulates that influence caloric expenditure, etc. We also study the human genome to find how that plays a role in body fatness When it comes to body weight, the genes that relate the most are in the brain Nobody wants to overeat, but we end up doing it anyway We need to look at our past to understand why we are wired to seek excess calories Animals and hunter gatherers we've studied follow the Optimum Foraging Theory when they acquire food. It's all about the calories per the amount of effort Because we were eating whole foods from nature, if we got enough calories, we by default we're getting all the vitamins and minerals needed They didn't have white flour, sugar, or refined oils We only have receptors for fat, sugar, salt, and glutamate Apparently those are the nutrients that natural selection cared about most to create reward systems for The Hadza people went mainly for meat, tubers, and honey and didn't go for leafy greens The brain is motivated to pursue calorie containing foods, not vitamins and minerals Combining bliss poi

I talk to a lot of great people on this podcast but this may be the man who really knows this stuff at the deepest level and most qualified to talk about fat adaptation and ketogenic diets & therapies. He has been doing amazing work in this field for such a long time. Dr. Jeff Volek is a professor, researcher, registered dietitian, and co-founder and Chief Science Officer of Virta Health. For the last two decades, Dr. Volek has performed cutting edge research on how humans adapt to diets restricted in carbohydrates with a dual focus on clinical and performance applications of nutritional ketosis. His scholarly work includes more than 300 peer-reviewed scientific manuscripts and five books, including a New York Times Best Seller, and he has provided more than 200 lectures at scientific and industry conferences around the world. He's an all around great guy and someone I admire. He very rarely does interviews so I was honored to spend some time with him. He is busy running his lab at OSU while also being a co-founder of a major health company I mention a lot called Virta. My company SAPIEN which you can find out more about at SAPIEN.org is producing technology similar to them. They use an app as well as devices like a smart scale to help monitor patients and keep them accountable as well as communicate with a health coach as they reverse type 2 diabetes with diet and lifestyle. We're doing the same thing at SAPIEN so if you are a healthcare provider or a health coach and are interested in our platform please reach out to us via our site SAPIEN.org Before we start the interview I want to ask people who have gotten any value out of this podcast to support me by contributing to the Food Lies film Indiegogo campaign. Go to FoodLies.org and pre-order the film or check out the great perks we're offering like the EAT MEAT shirt, movie poster, and Real Foods coin. We rely on the community to make this podcast and film a reality. I'm seriously on my last dollar here and the post production of the film is slowing down due to budget constraints. I really appreciate the support. You can also click through the show notes in your podcast app to support the film. Thanks, and here's Dr. Jeff Volek. http://indiegogo.com/projects/food-lies-post SHOW NOTES He presented some of his research at the Metabolic Health Summit in Long Beach at the beginning of February Keto is very popular these days but it's a double-edged sword His interests in ketogenic research are broad including metabolic disease, type 2 diabetes, athletes, military personnel, etc. He's studying tons of military applications to help them deal with energy, fatigue, recovery, cognitive function, etc. He and Dr. Steve Phinney wrote the great book The Art & Science of Low Carb Living which should be perfect for the savvy nutrition folks listening to this podcast https://www.amazon.com/Art-Science-Low-Carbohydrate-Living/dp/0983490708 The concept of carb intolerance What percentage of the population might be carb intolerant? Before the agricultural revolution humans had very little access to carbohydrate Low carb or ketogenic diets are what our bodies were made to run on There's probably only a small percentage of the population that is tolerant to these refined and abundant carbs in the modern food environment Carb tolerance also goes down with age What's great is that basically everyone can adapt to a low carb diet and this makes sense from an evolutionary perspective We all have the ability to run on fat but eating a ton of carbs suppresses that It's helping to treat diabetes (reverse it or put it in remission), cancer, neurological diseases The preponderance of trials shows low carb diets are superior to low fat diets in a free living setting There was interest and studies in ketogenic diets for weight loss in the 50s and 60s but then we hit the "dark ages" of this research with the USDA guidelines and it was basically toxic to study low carb in the 70s, 80s, and 90s There's been a huge amount of research done in the last 20 years that supports low carb diets There's so much entrenched beliefs and momentum behind low fat paradigm it just takes a while to get past it - we're doing really well actually The dietary guidelines don't reflect the current body of science They dietary guidelines actually matter - affect what kids eat at school, military eat, what's taught to dietitians I think we should have two dietary strategies offered as the official guidelines instead of ending up high fat AND high carb like most americans artoday Dr. Volek believes low carb should be the preferred option for those with any sort of metabolic syndrome Personalized nutrition is the future but we're just scratching the surface Mapping the genome and genetic testing aren't really panning out He's looking at some biomarkers to help tell if people are mismanaging carbs What about eating more protein? It's pretty straightforward to implement a ketogenic diet but it's also pretty challengin

Welcome back, everyone. I'm working hard to make each episode very informative and get great guests that bring something unique to the table. I go for quality over quantity. I love having guests with new messages and insights that we haven't heard before, and Dr. Tro is one of these great sources of information. People have been requesting a weight loss journey - someone who's actually lost a ton of weight themselves. Not only did Dr. Tro lose 150 pounds, but he's a… you guessed it… doctor. He helps people figure out how to transform their body and health on a daily basis. This is real world application here, people. There's so many sides to this stuff and the psychology behind eating (and more importantly overeating) is huge. He knows a lot about what it means to be obese and make these changes and make them last. He was 350 pounds 3 years ago and has kept off the weight despite the usual statistics of 97% of people just putting it back on. This was no easy feat and if you haven't seen a photo of him, he's actually pretty ripped. We start off with some social media controversy about a post I made that rubbed some people with food addiction the wrong way. The episode is about so much more than that, so keep listening and I think there's huge value for anyone and everyone in this episode. Once again, I have to talk about the Food Lies film Indiegogo campaign. Basically all podcasts have sponsors to pay the bills. My film is this sponsor. I've turned down other sponsors and could be making quite a bit based on the expanding audience of the show. I'd really rather not do this so please support the film if you're enjoying the podcast and the lack of annoying ads. This film is my baby and I've spent an immeasurable amount of my time and own money on it. I know it will all be worth it when it's completed, so please help me get there. Go to FoodLies.org to click through to the Indiegogo campaign or click on the link in the show notes. Thanks so much and here's Dr. Tro. http://indiegogo.com/projects/food-lies-post Show Notes I made a remark on social media that was supposed to be motivational and ended up backfiring Food addiction is something Dr. Tro knows a lot about Controversial topic - Dr. Robert Lustig has a book on it http://www.robertlustig.com/hacking/ Is you buy and eat the correct food you shouldn't be hungry all the time I have my own food addiction - once I start eating I can't stop His wife had to hide food from him He didn't know why his appetite was so messed up I wrote the post under the context of it being inspirational and that people who follow my accounts would understand what I'm talking about and what foods they should be eating He thought he was "meant" to be obese. That it was his genetics. His family was all overweight This was reinforced in medical school where they taught him that it was genetic 75% of patients he sees for weight issues have a history of childhood trauma People don't even realize how much they're eating If you're eating processed foods stuffed with carbs and sugar it's basically impossible to be full Even nutritionists and doctors don't know how much they really eat - when asked they are off by 20% Satiety is the most important thing we need to be talking about - some people don't even realize different foods provide different satiety Liquid calories are enemy #1 Layne Norton and bodybuilders are way different than the normal person Counting calories doesn't work - we have calories listed everywhere for decades, we have My Fitness Pal, it's plainly obvious it doesn't work Our bodies don't have a calorie receptor to know how much we have eaten or need to eat When glycemia shifts (blood sugar up then down) you're going to be hungry He levels out their blood sugar with a LCHF diet. Can do it whole foods plant based if the patient has that personal preference Low fat approach not good in long term because it knocks down hormones like CCK and neuropeptide YY Once you're fat adapted you're not beholden to food for energy A lot of hunger is just mental at this point - you have hundreds of thousands of calories of fat stored on your body you can use Cortisol makes you hungry and your blood sugar to swing Part of helping people to lose weight is coaching them on what to do in times of stress He advises people to just eat protein and fat if they're hungry in the early stages - they can build up to being more strict later. They also will be full for hours after eating the right foods. Anything to avoid the donut He can eat 3 pounds of meat at once - overeat his satiety signaling Hyper palatability comes when you add sugar + fat Formerly or currently obese have large stomach volumes and need more tools to not overeat and be full He doesn't recommend a lot of vegetables and fiber but it has its place to fill the stomach from a volume perspective He didn't know this before. None of the other doctors or nutritionists around him knew it either We've all been given useless and bogus advi

Season 3 is in full swing with worldwide leaders in their field talking about the latest science of nutrition and health. To catch people up I'm Brian Sanders and I've quit my job and dedicated my life to studying health and nutrition. I'm trying my best to be unbiased and to simplify the conflicting advice out there and distill down concepts into something anyone can understand. I'm not a doctor or nutritionist. I'm a mechanical engineer and I've lost both of my parents to chronic disease and have set off on my own path for the last 4 years to study this topic and make sure I don't fall to the same fate. My role is the curator, the communicator. I've interviewed over 100 of the top scientists, doctors, nutritionists, fitness experts, and other health professionals and have come to find some simple truths that I'd like to share. A lot of this will be presented in the feature length documentary called Food Lies, but it's not all about the film. I'm spreading this information to the public anyway I can. I do this podcast, I post daily ideas and information on Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook, and soon to I'll be doing more videos on youtube. Search for Food Lies on any of these platforms. Dr. Gary Fettke has an amazing tale of deceit, deception, disinformation, conspiring dietitians, medical evangelism, his medical board attempting to silence him, and even John Harvey Kellogg, founder of the cereal company and his anti-masterbation mission. A lot going on here and a lot of alliteration as well. Dr. Fettke is an orthopedic surgeon living in Tasmania off of Australia. He practices preventative medicine and helps treat patients long before resorting to surgical interventions. Like Professor Tim Noakes, he stood up to his medical board and powers that be that were trying to stop him from dispensing simple and logical nutrition advice like eating fresh, local, and seasonal foods instead of processed foods. He spent 3 years of his own time and money on this absurdity before being exonerated of all charges. Strap yourselves in folks, this is a good one! As I'm recording this I'm dealing with the harsh realities of a measly budget and worries of how to finish the Food Lies documentary properly. If you haven't supported it yet, please consider doing that now. It's a true community-powered project. If enough people pre-order the film at a pretty reasonable cost of $25 we can complete this in a matter of months instead of maybe a year. That's what we're facing if we don't have the funds. This will be made no matter what, don't be worried about that. This is my life's work and all I care about right now. Thanks for your help - just go to FoodLies.org and click through to the Indiegogo campaign or click through the link in the show notes. We have an amazing woman named Amanda adding in $20 more for each person who contributes. Please take her up on her kind offer today. Also, please leave a review of the podcast on itunes or the Apple podcast app. I sent out a care package to listener Aaron from Ohio yesterday who had the review of the week. I really appreciate these reviews and they help get the podcast more visibility. And now here's Dr. Gary Fettke. https://indiegogo.com/projects/food-lies-post Show Notes Dr. gary Fettke is an orthopedic surgeon living in Tasmania off of Australia Part of his job entails cutting off toes and limbs of type 2 diabetes patients He uncovered documents proving the collusion of the food industry (Kellogg's and other cereal/grains companies) to target him and 7 other Australians They feel that low carb and paleo diets are hurting their sales and want to do something about it All he was promoting was to reduce sugar, refined grains, and industrial oils which he calls the model of inflammation By doing this you are eating low carb healthy fat and avoiding processed foods. Pretty simple… but directly against the big food manufacturers He was also saying red meat was ok He was silenced by his medical board and wasn't allowed to ever give nutritional advice again Was finally thrown out years later after much time, expense, and lobbying He originally thought it was about the science, but that was simple and they had all the facts on their side Found out about the vested interests and the role of the 7th day adventist church There's an article in a journal called Religion where they pretty much self-admit all of this - so it sounds crazy, but it's all true Traced the beginning to America in 1917 when the American Dietetics Association was born They are responsible for much of the textbooks and teachings in that era A woman named Lena Cooper was instrumental in founding this organization. She was a vegetarian and 7th day adventist She worked with John Harvey Kellogg who went on to found the cereal company Kellogg's The 7th day adventists started with the visions of Ellen G. White who believed meat was unclean and made men violent and also caused masterbation It started around the temperance movement

Aaaaand we're back! Thanks for waiting patiently for season 3. We have an all-star lineup of guests and many interviews already in the can ready to be released. To catch people up I'm Brian Sanders and I've quit my job and dedicated my life to studying health and nutrition. I'm trying my best to be unbiased and to simplify the conflicting advice out there and distill down concepts into something anyone can understand. I'm not a doctor or nutritionist. I'm a mechanical engineer and I've lost both of my parents to chronic disease and have set off on my own path for the last 4 years to study this topic and make sure I don't fall to the same fate. My role is the curator, the communicator. I've interviewed over 100 of the top scientists, doctors, nutritionists, fitness experts, and other health professionals and have come to find some simple truths that I'd like to share. A lot of this will be presented in the feature length documentary called Food Lies, but it's not all about the film. I'm spreading this information to the public anyway I can. I do this podcast, I post daily ideas and information on Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook, and soon to I'll be doing more videos on youtube. Search for Food Lies on any of these platforms. Today I'm talking to Ryan Lowery who is a PhD in Health and Human Performance and a researcher studying cellular, molecular and whole body changes in muscle size, strength, and power in response to novel nutrition, training and supplement interventions. He's also the president of the Applied Science and Performance Institute where he's bridging the gap between the latest research and science and practical application. He runs ketogenic.com which is a great resource to check out. He's the guy that Layne Norton called out in a previous episode. I wanted to get him on to talk about the benefits of being fat adapted and why ketogenic diets are an effective tool in the arsenal. I was actually just hanging out with him at the Metabolic Health Summit. This was an awesome conference put on in part by Dr. Dom D'Agostino who mentioned it last summer in Peak Human episode 6 that I did with him. The top scientists studying ketogenic metabolic therapy were there talking about their latest research and how in conjunction with some other treatments it has been used to shrink brain tumors, prevent epileptic seizures, and even reverse cognitive decline and Alzheimer's. Pretty amazing stuff. So a quick message about the film - please go to FoodLies.org and support us on Indiegogo as we finish post production. We have to cover the cost of our amazing animators, graphic artists, and editors working away on this. I won't sell it anymore, just know I make no money on this and have in fact spent every cent of my savings making it so far. I really appreciate your support. Here's Dr. Ryan Lowery. http://indiegogo.com/projects/food-lies-post Show Notes Phinney and Volek set him off - they hadn't run experiments on resistance training He was a high carb athlete chugging 250 grams of carbs just from weight gainer shakes and skeptical about keto and sports performance Endurance athletes can have an advantage by being fat adapted and metabolically flexible to tap into tens of thousands of calories they have in their fat stores Online war with Layne Norton Benefits of being fat adapted Some studies that show when protein and calories are equated there is benefits to running on fat In real world applications, so what if keto people eat more protein, we live in the real world Is it possible that all these amazing results I and others are getting from eating this way is just due to eating at a deficit? Energy balance remains Are all calories the same? Nutrient density is king All calories are certainly not equal - Layne's own studies show this You can eat whey protein and rice and hit your macros and lose weight - doesn't; mean it's healthy. There's studies showing our ancestors ate 10-20 times the vitamins and minerals we eat today Problems with "if it fits your macros" Benefits of running on fat instead of glucose Phospholipids and brain health We lose our tolerance to carbs as we grow older Dr. Michael Rose is the one doing the fruit fly studies - look him up or listen to him on Robb Wolf's podcast #416 You can't force someone to eat a certain way, but you can help them find what they want to do His brother is obese Cyclic keto AKA blowing it out on the weekends Not back in ketosis until thursday I don't care about ketosis necessarily and just eat nutrient dense foods Ketones are muscle sparing - help you retain muscle mass If you're on a long term ketogenic diet your pancreas isn't secreting much insulin and you aren't prepared for a bolus of glucose - don't be super strict then go bananas for a holiday or vacation People on low fat diets can't handle a huge bolus of fat either Gut problems when transitioning to high fat or carnivore Don't get caught up in a tribe Their animal studies on a keto diet for its entire l

Sally Fallon Morell is the director and co-founder of the Weston A. Price Foundation. She's spent the last 20 years doing amazing work to promote the wise traditions of our ancestors and their farming, preparation, and consumption of foods. She's written many amazing books such as Nourishing Traditions, Eat Fat, Lose Fat, and a new Book called Nourishing Diets. I really value all that she's done and continues to do. I've come to realize my ideal diet is the one the Weston A. Price Foundation recommends minus the grains, even though they are safe if you prepare them properly as Sally mentions. I'd prefer to run on fat and most people listening probably know the vast benefits of doing this. I want to highlight that they can be safe to eat if you soak them overnight, etc. so if you choose to eat these foods at least do it properly. You may have noticed I'm getting all kinds of people on the show. I don't want to be totally one sided. I'll let people share their differing opinions and not argue with them. That doesn't mean I support their stance. Dr. David Klurfeld, Layne Norton - let's hear what they have to say. I think it would be a disservice to just keep getting people on the show who 100% agree with me. You have to be open to all sides so you're not caught being dogmatic just like vegans and only look at things from one angle or miss the truth because your head is in the sand. All I'm after is truth, and will change my views if necessary. So far, nothing has shaken my belief that we need to eat nutrient dense ancestral diets with a lot of animal fat. I believe it's better to run on fat, and most carbs are pretty worthless because they don't have a lot of nutrients for how much energy they have. You can get the same nutrients that properly sprouted and fermented grains have elsewhere. People doing carnivore. Listen to the teachings of Dr. Price. Eat the whole animal. So much of the good stuff is in the bits and pieces. You can point to many populations over time eating mostly all or even 100% animal foods for long periods or life, and I agree with you, but they weren't eating only muscle meat. I think the best diet out there is basically what Tara Couture, my last podcast guest who's a homestead farmer, feeds her family. The full animal plus fermented veg and other fresh grown veg thrown in. Add in some more exotic foods such as fish eggs, avocado, mushrooms, and coconut oil. You can't get more nutrient dense and less potentially harmful than that. This was our last film tour and we're now actively engaged in post-production for Food Lies. All the T-shirts and rewards are being sent out shortly. You can still pre-order the film and get the other rewards at Indiegogo.com/projects/food-lies-post which is linked here in the show notes and at FoodLies.org where you can also see the film trailer. Thanks so much for the support and here's Sally. Show Notes Just got back from filming with her on her farm in southern Maryland They mimic nature with regenerative and holistic farming practices and produce raw milk and raw cheese, etc. It's strange that we need an entire organization just help re-educate people on how we have always eaten. It's an uphill battle with a ton of opposition Rotational grazing mimics the grazing and movement of ruminants throughout history Weston A. Price foundation validates traditional farming and eating practices with modern science Demonization of saturated fats Procter & Gamble and the cottonseed oil and Crisco story - they were experts at marketing to housewives of the time Vegetable oils might be worse than trans fat For all of history humans prized animal fat It's insane to give kids skim milk Dr. Price found that different culture all over the world had similar practices of a nutrient dense animal food diet 6 months prior to conception Vegetarian diet 2014 UK study: "our results showed that a vegetarian diet is associated with poorer health (higher incidences of cancer, allergies, and mental health disorders), a higher need for health care, and poorer quality of life." https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article/file?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0088278&type=printable Tooth health is a great indicator of overall health Wide dental arches and face and not needing braces is a sign of good nutrition from pre-conception through the growth phase Our ancestors built up their vitamin A stores well ahead of becoming pregnant by eating organ meats, animal fat, butter, egg yolks, etc. The heart starts growing before the women even knows she's pregnant Prenatal vitamins aren't bioavailable - you need to get the full nutrition from the food you eat The foundation has seen so many examples of healthy, strong, smart, attractive babies born from eating this nutrient dense diet Some of his other studies and observations of kids in youth detention facilities and where he gave different groups of low income kids one nutritious meal per day of beef stew and cod liver oil with really good grass fed butter W

Welcome back everyone, I'm Brian Sanders and I quit my job and have dedicated my life to the investigation of nutrition and lifelong health. I'm creating the feature length documentary Food Lies, this podcast, and a health technology company here in Los Angeles with a doctor and 2 other partners. Today I'm talking to Tara Couture who is a certified nutritionist, homestead farmer, expert in nutrient dense cooking and living, and maybe my new favorite person ever. She's raised her family for 25 years on the most amazing, nutrient dense foods you can imagine using her nutrition background, teachings from Weston A. Price, raw milk from farmer friends, and mostly her own animals she raises. She butchers her own animals, churns her own butter, makes her own head cheese, etc., etc. She is the real deal. Check out what I'm talking about before you even listen to this episode on her amazing Instagram account http://instagram.com/slowdownfarmstead She's a wealth of information and I genuinely enjoyed our talk. We get into vegan lies, the canadian mafia-like police arresting people for selling food they produced by hand, crazy family members refusing to eat her food, and a lot more. Her husband is an ER doctor and deals with some of this insanity as well. Don't forget you can still preorder the Food Lies film on Indiegogo to support its creation and this podcast. Thanks again for everyone's support so far and please enjoy this great episode with Tara Couture. http://indiegogo.com/projects/food-lies-post Show Notes She has the best Instagram account in the game http://instagram.com/slowdownfarmstead She lives on a homestead farm in Canada and raises basically all her own animals and food She eats the most glorious, nutrient food you can imagine Tara and her husband (who is a doctor) were in the military and moved around for many years. Every place they went they immediately found local farmers to supply them with the nutrient dense food they needed She bought deep freezers on Craigslist for $50 and bought bulk animals for the whole year People in cities can go to farmers markets or get involved with a CSA (Community Supported Agriculture) https://www.localharvest.org/csa/ Her daughter is living in a small apartment and buying bulk meat from farmers and deep freezing as well It doesn't have to be all or nothing - do what you can Daughters went off and ate normal food with friends as teenagers and felt sick and hated it She's eating an animal food-only diet currently but doesn't like to call it carnivore or keto because that's not what she's after - she's going after nutrient density She lists some of the things she eats daily - duck confit, head cheese, rabbit liver, kidney, adn heart pate, duck prosciutto… the list goes on Duck prosciutto sounds fancy but is actually super easy to make We've been sold a bunch of lies by big food producers making it seem like they're the only ones that can feed us and it's so hard to cook on your own She inexplicably has a 26 year old daughter while looking 26 herself Her daughter was misdiagnosed with a rare disease which made her go vegetarian. Her health fell apart despite doing it very well with all the right food combinations All her daughters were raised on organic foods, raw milk and cream, lots of animal fats and they are all beautiful and lean They've never had antibiotics and none of them even have a doctor The younger 2 daughters have never had a cavity (Tara was eating vegetarian when she had the oldest so…) Her youngest is on the boys hockey team and squats 225 lbs and was born 10 lbs 6 oz She thinks their calm and even-keeled temperament is very noticable and attributes it to a very healthy diet They bring big coolers of real foods (meat) to hockey tournaments Youngest daughter has never had fast food before - she says she wants that to be on her tombstone "the kid that never went to McDonalds" They have a beautiful organic garden and eat fermented plant foods like sauerkraut and kimchi She's temporarily eating only animal foods because she has zero inflammation that way, feels great, and has no gut issues She lives near Ottawa on the Canadian Shield which has thin soil and is very rocky. There's also trees everywhere. This land cannot be used for crops. The only good use for it is animals. They wander the forest and eat a really diverse variety of forage She does rotational grazing with her cows in the warmer months "The idea that grain or vegetarian diets will save the earth is so nonsensical. Anyone that works on the land can explain to you in one sentence why that can't happen" Vegans have the loudest voices so people think it's the majority People like Bill Gates think they know how to save the world - he's some nerd who started a computer company - what does he know about farming? Don't wait for these changes to come from the top - get your own well-sourced meat today She raises dairy cows, beef cows, ducks, meat rabbits, and heritage breed pigs (off and on) She make

Welcome back everyone, I'm Brian Sanders and I quit my job and have dedicated my life to the investigation of nutrition and lifelong health. I'm creating the feature length documentary Food Lies, this podcast, and a health technology company here in Los Angeles with a doctor and 2 other partners. Today we have Layne Norton who I had a great time talking with and has a lot of good messages… Nobody should get too caught up in one way of doing something, even if it has tons of apparent benefits. I've always tried to keep an open mind and have repeatedly talked about how many different dietary strategies can work, especially on the two opposite ends of the spectrum. Just don't get caught in the middle like most Americans. This wasn't supposed to be a debate. Previous guest Dr. Dom D'Agostino recently had a quote debate with Layne on Joe Rogan's podcast which I recommend that everyone check out. I don't think Dom challenged him enough so I wanted to have him on and ask a few more questions. I believe people can do fine running on fat or glucose, or both, there's just benefits and downsides depending on which. I see almost no downsides to fat, it's working for me, I see way more lines of evidence pointing to this being our default state, and so I continue to lean on this side as the preferred metabolic state. We talked about a very interesting study that just came out in November that I feel puts a big hit on his position that if you keep protein and overall calories consistent between to groups of people, the fat and carb content doesn't matter. This study which I linked to in the show notes https://www.bmj.com/content/363/bmj.k4583 by Dr. David Ludwig controls for these, lasts 20 weeks - so long enough to actually get the subjects fat adapted (which I wanted to make a bigger point of that almost all other big studies fail to do) - and clearly shows as you drop your carb intake and replace it with fat, you burn more calories. If you're burning more energy, you're losing weight. I have so many regrets on things I could have brought up and I'm sure I left things out. Many people listening will probably be yelling at their phones that I could have contradicted the old Kevin Hall studies in this way or brought up some point here or there. I'll just say it's hard to get everything out in the moment, live on air. One thing I was was going to say was NuSi funding the study doesn't make it biased. They purposely found researchers that don't agree with the hypothesis to run the experiments with Dr. Ludwig. The subject changed and I forgot to bring this up. I also wanted to point to the blood markers that improved in the low carb group in this study compared to the higher carb group. This is important no matter what, but even more important to me because they weren't in a calorie deficit - they were just maintaining weight. That's huge. Layne always says all the benefits of low carb can be attributed to being in a deficit. He said he didn't get a chance to go over the study yet though. I'll have to ask him about this another time. I posted the images of the graphs from the study on Instagram so you can see them there if you go back a few posts. Just search for @food.lies. Also, I'm not diminishing all the great aspects of keto. I feel like I'm going to piss off the keto community in this episode because they think I'm dismissing it or not bringing up all the studies showing the unique benefits. That's for another time - I'm talking to Dr. Ryan Lowery about coming on the podcast soon who is the guy Layne is having a little online war with that comes up in this episode. He'll talk about all the great studies on the benefits of a ketogenic diet. I wanted to focus on other things with Layne. We agree on a bunch of stuff in the first half then start to debate things in the second half. A bit more about him; he has a PhD in Nutritional Science and a background in biochemistry, he's a professional natural bodybuilder, he's won a bunch of competitions, he's published a number of scientific papers, he's a bodybuilding and physique coach, and also an author of a new book on weight loss. Before we get to the interview, I want to say if you have gotten any value out of the last 24 podcasts, the best way to show your support is to click through the link in the show notes and preorder a copy of the Food Lies film on Indiegogo. You can also find it by going to FoodLies.org I'm doing everything I can on a daily basis to spread information and create content to help people find unbiased and accurate information on something that should be everyone's top priority in life - their health. Thanks so much for your support, and here's Layne Norton. http://indiegogo.com/projects/food-lies-post Show Notes He recently debated previous guest and keto researcher, Dom D'Agostino on Joe Rogan's podcast He's main goal is to call bullshit on bad science and bad dietary advice Dr. Mark Haub and the junk food diet http://www.cnn.com/2010/HEALTH/11/08/twin

Welcome back everyone, I'm Brian Sanders and I quit my job and have dedicated my life to the investigation of nutrition and lifelong health. I'm creating the feature length documentary Food Lies, this podcast, and a health technology company here in Los Angeles with a doctor and 2 other partners. Today my guest is Dr. David Klurfeld, which is a quite a treat. This is his first podcast appearance and had to get special clearance to be able to participate. He couldn't talk about certain things because he's the National Program Leader for Human Nutrition in the Agricultural Research Service of the USDA since 2004. He was also on the working group of the World Health Organization that decided meat causes cancer in 2015. I won't leave you guessing - he was very opposed to it and called it "the most frustrating professional experience of his life." He's accumulated a vast amount of knowledge over his 40 years researching nutrition and dietary factors in cardiovascular diseases and cancer. He wrote an amazing peer-reviewed article defending meat titled "what is the role of meat in a healthy diet" which I linked to in the show notes. https://academic.oup.com/af/article/8/3/5/5048762 He's not going to support a fully carnivorous diet, but certainly sees past the bogus vegan propaganda Speaking of support - PLEASE support Food Lies on Indiegogo. Thanks for everything so far. The campaign just ended but Indiegogo allows us to keep funding because we hit our baseline goal. We need a bit more help to hit the real goal, however. Pre-order a copy of the film or check out some of the other perks. Also, this podcast has a website that I have barely even mentioned. Check out peak-human.com for all episodes and detailed show notes. A little more about Dr. Klurfeld before we start: He is responsible for the scientific direction of the intramural human nutrition research conducted by USDA laboratories. He has published more than 200 peer-reviewed articles and book chapters. He was Editor-in-Chief of the Journal of the American College of Nutrition for 6 years and is currently Associate Editor of the American Journal for Clinical Nutrition. He is also a member of National Institute for Diabetes, Digestive and Kidney Diseases Advisory Council. Let's just say he's done his homework… and still enjoys a good steak… here he is! Show Notes Dr. David Klurfeld focuses his research on the 3 macronutrients and their effect on health on chronic disease - specifically breast and colon cancer People debate on how much what we eat affects diet and disease A paper published tries to stick all of cardiovascular disease precisely on 10 factors https://jamanetwork.com/data/Journals/JAMA/936095/joi170008f1.png Full article: https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2608221 David and I spoke earlier and are on the same page - there's no one-size-fits-all solution for how to eat, and nobody should pretend they have all the answers. There's a framework and some general guidelines, however, that people should be aware of (if this isn't already abundantly clear, this is the goal of the Food Lies film They have high salt as #1 factor of "cardiometabolic mortality attributable to dietary habits" and #2 being "low intake of nuts and seeds" There's no evidence to support these specific quantities like amount of PUFAs Residual confounding is a big problem that's not really addressed The thing that meat consumption correlates with most is not living a healthy life and ignoring doctor's recommendations. Smoking, not exercising, etc. Eating meat made us human - why would it be killing us? Dr. David Klurfeld: Red meat is somehow blamed for a multitude of varying diseases and cancers. Imagine if one medication was purported to cure all of these disparate things? It's just not plausible You can get half your daily requirement of protein in just 3.5 ounces of meat Dr. David Klurfeld: there are 8 essential amino acids which are in animal foods but absent in all plant foods We should get the best of both worlds and eat an omnivorous diet We don't know exactly what our ancestors ate but they sure didn't have international trade of peaches and didn't have farms. We chased animals He's done a lot of research on fiber and therefore not that hot on the carnivore diet Even though there's no requirement for fiber in our guidelines, he believes we have more science now He believes if you don't eat fiber in your diet, your body will eat away the good mucus membrane in your intestinal walls I ask about people or populations on long term carnivore diets - connective tissue in animals feed gut intestines like fiber does He also says the lifetime risk of colon cancer is only 5 out 100 - so we'd have to study hundreds of thousands of people for a long period of time to get meaningful data - we just don't know the effects He's like to see dietary guidelines have a grade for the level of evidence After all the decades of research and gazillions of dollars he still can't say

Today I had the pleasure of talking to celebrity chef, filmmaker, and all around great guy, Pete Evans. He co-hosts the #1 show in Australia, My Kitchen Rules which is in its 10th season and is shown in 160 countries. He's written a ton of books and cookbooks, he's created the show The Paleo Way, and has a great podcast called Recipes For Life. You may know him from the documentary The Magic Pill, which everyone listening has probably already seen on Netflix. He's an amazing, positive force in Australia and the world, and it may not be apparent from our brief talk. We only had an hour so I'm going to have him on again because there's so much more to get into. I'll get a better recording situation next time. You'll notice the quality wasn't so great due to the recording service we were forced to use. A lot to enjoy in this episode though - he brings up some really creepy stuff about the dietitians association of Australia colluding to discredit and silence himself and a prominent doctor who advocate for people to lower sugar in their diet. Absurd, but true. These are the last few days you can pre-order the Food Lies film on Indiegogo. We really need your help to get this finished. We're not taking any outside funding and have so far used much of our own time, money, and resources. It's really coming out fantastic, and I can't wait to share it with the world. Pre-ordering is the only way to have your own copy and share it with family and friends and you'll get it a couple months early. It's also the best way to show your support for this podcast and getting this information out there. I really appreciate all the support so far and can't thank this awesome community enough. Click through the link in the show notes on your podcast app, at peak-human.com, at FoodLies.org, or search for it on Indiegogo.com Thanks and please enjoy my talk with Pete Evans. http://indiegogo.com/projects/food-lies-post Show Notes Find out more about Pete Evans https://peteevans.com His TV show My Kitchen Rules https://mkr.7plus.com.au His series The Paleo Way https://peteevans.com/initiatives/the-paleo-way/ He self funded The Magic Pill and The Paleo Way and executive produced it Got a distributor and it went nowhere… He realized he had a lot of great content and a documentary was a better format for this valuable information His director Rob Tate came in huge Hope For Health - benefitting the Australian Aboriginals https://www.hopeforhealth.com.au Why Warriors Lay Down and Die http://www.whywarriors.com.au/services/why-warriors-lie-down-and-die/ He brings up Weston A. Price - has he been mentioned every episode? The power of an ancestral diet is undeniable - changes unfolded in real time on film as people got off their diabetes medication and got healthier The trial of Professor Tim Noakes (listen to Prof. Noakes in episode 3) was going on at the same time so they decided to film that as well Dr. Gary Fettke has also been silenced by the dieticians in Australia. He's an orthopedic surgeon who cuts off limbs due to diabetes yet he was silenced for telling patients to avoid sugar Had great stories from Nina Teicholz, Joel Salatin, and Lierre Keith (all friends of Food Lies film/this podcast) Original cut of Magic Pill was more controversial and inflammatory but Pete wasn't comfortable with that The president of the Australian Medical Association called it a dangerous film and tried to get it taken off of Netflix. He's now been replaced… He's working with Dr. gary Fettke to get the dietary guidelines changed in Australia Dr. Gary Fettke got ahold of some internal files showing Dietitians Association colluding with multinational food organizations to have himself, Pete, and other members of the paleo community silenced or discredited The more films and information about ancestral eating, the better Carnivore movement - Shawn Baker and Mikhaila Peterson - it's good to fight against the vegan propaganda and prove meat isn't harmful, but in fact beneficial Pete put up a $1 million bet if those dietitians can prove that the grass fed, grass finished steak and vegetables he served his family for dinner can be proven to be harmful As a chef, why would you use the blandest foods in your cooking? The pasta, the bread, the plain starches that add no nutritional value or flavor. Instead you can use the most nutrient dense and delicious foods possible - all the low carb foods Nora Gedgaudas and her life changing book for Pete, Primal Body Primal Mind https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/9571633-primal-body-primal-mind They went on a speaking tour together over the course of 2 years Food should be something you can eat straight from nature, full of nutrients and flavor. That is not wheat and grains The problem is we are taking bland foods devoid of nutrients (refined carbs) and adding fake flavors to them which is tricking us into overeating and not getting adequate nutrition The Dorito Effect https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/22609354-the-dorito-

Marty Kendall is an engineer, a speaker, and a writer. He's analyzed a bunch of data and built some cool, free technology. He's also brought a lot of people together who are working on cutting edge, practical information. He runs a group where some of the smartest people in nutrition are interacting daily, sharing information and studies and clinical experience. This includes Dr. Ted Naiman who was my first guest and who we bring up a few times in this episode. These are not anti-carb people, they aren't dogmatic, they don't let other interests or beliefs enter the picture. They're after information and truth and are working towards healing people and changing lives. They're coming at this from all sides and from all over the world. Some are doing the research, some are just interpreting it and thinking about it from new angles. Ted is in the clinic daily, putting it into practice and reversing diabetes. Marty is building tools and thinking about it from his engineering perspective. I love people who think about it this way - I'm like a broken record, because I'm an engineer too. We need to stop thinking that only a doctor can be an expert on nutrition. Why would they be? They have extremely little or no nutrition specific training. They are brilliant when it comes to a million other things, but they aren't the end-all be-all of nutrition They can be though. But so can an engineer who dedicates years of their life to researching a topic. Not everyone who does this will be smart or correct, but some are. These are the people I get on the podcast. Ivor Cummins, Tucker Goodrich, Gabor Erdosi, Dave Feldman soon, and now Marty Kendall. There's many more as well, and I'll continue to find them. Enough of my ranting - just a quick word on the Food Lies documentary. It's going really well and being pushed forward daily. I just booked our trip to Maryland to film with Dr. Bill Schindler. Go back to listen to that episode if you missed it. There's only about 11 days left on the Indiegogo.com crowdfunding page. Please go there to preorder the film. There's a link in the show notes in your podcast app and on peak-human.com. You also can search for Food Lies on Indiegogo or go to FoodLies.org to learn more. Now please take a listen to Marty and I talk about my favorite topic - nutrient density. http://indiegogo.com/projects/food-lies-post Show Notes Marty Kendall runs the great site http://optimisingnutrition.com and the facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/1419823171384689/ Ted Naiman, Robb Wolf, Luis Villasenor, and Tyler Cartwright (ketogains) all collaborate with him to figure this nutrition stuff out What is nutrient density? Matt Lalonde's presentation at AHS 2012 https://youtu.be/HwbY12qZcF4 Cronometer is a great app to track food and nutrients https://cronometer.com Nutrient dense foods are less insulinogenic, more satiating, and less energy dense Try to quantify things because nutrition is confusing enough I disagree with Joel Fuhrman's nutrient density scoring system His version of nutrient density is variable and is based on what you personally aren't getting enough of If you're getting enough micronutrients, you're very likely to be getting all the protein you need Can't make a perfect diet because too many factors - season, cost, preference, etc. Some of the most nutrient dense and satiating foods are leafy greens, fish eggs, seafood, liver We've always sought after nutritious foods throughout history, with or without knowing it He mentions my recent episode with Tucker Goodrich https://www.peak-human.com/home/tucker-goodrich-on-vegetable-oils-being-at-the-heart-of-modern-disease on seed oils and how unnatural and energy dense they are Modern foods are engineered to trick us - they tastes delicious, but have no nutrition The book The Dorito Effect chronicles this https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/22609354-the-dorito-effect?from_search=true It's a cliche for a reason - eat real foods Trying to formulate a low insulin diet for his wife with type 1 diabetes that is also nutrient dense What are the most nutrient dense foods? Amazing benefits of seafood Modern food is dog food - stuffed with cheap grains and vegetable oils with huge profit margins for big food manufacturers at the expense of the consumer's health Satiety Used 587,000 day worth of publicly available food data from MyFitnessPal to do some data crunching Fed state, glucagon, and type 1 diabetes closed system insulin pump How to eat less and manage hunger? Holt satiety study in 1995 https://www.researchgate.net/publication/15701207_A_Satiety_Index_of_common_foods Carbs and fat together gives you the highest calorie intake HIs in-depth article on satiety https://optimisingnutrition.com/2018/10/09/calculating-satiety/ They have an app that helps you only by satiating foods in the grocery store Cian Foley has a book called Don't Eat for Winter https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/34616334-don-t-eat-for-winter?from_search=true Protein leverag

Gabor is a food scientist with a masters in molecular biology. He lives in Hungary and is one of these engineers slash scientists who I love talking to who look at nutrition differently. He has a very unique perspective because he works for a big food manufacturer that makes sugary syrups that he believes are harmful. It's rare point of view. He's spends almost all of his free time researching this stuff to help people understand how bad these processed foods actually are. He has a large community on facebook where he shares and discusses this information. He also has some great presentations he's done you can find online. We recorded past midnight and I was losing steam at the end and didn't continue the conversation much. He was talking about a really interesting topic though - the adipose centric model of diabetes. For a long time many people have been talking about the insulin-carbohydrate model of diabetes. There's a lot to this subject and we'll get more into it in the coming weeks. I have already recorded an episode covering more of this that will come out next week. It's basically flipping our thoughts of insulin resistance around. The problems occur when you eat more than your personal fat threshold can take - whether it be carbs, fat, or protein. So the problem is your adipose tissue can't properly store all the lipids. People start becoming insulin resistant because of their obesity (or overstuffed and inflamed fat cells), instead of becoming obese from the insulin resistance. This may be super boring and esoteric to some, but for others it will be super interesting. I personally am very into it. There's a couple weeks left to support the Food Lies film on Indiegogo. Thanks so much - we couldn't do it without you. Listener and crowd support is the only thing powering this film and podcast right now, so I really appreciate it. Now please listen to the wise words of Gabor Erdosi. http://indiegogo.com/projects/food-lies-post Show Notes Gabor is a food scientist with a masters in molecular biology calling in from Hungary He works for a big food manufacturer making sugary syrups Asked to give a presentation on food processing and the short term metabolic effects https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8rcfvRGZsDs Long term negative effects would have included seed oils but they only gave him 35 minutes People says processed carbs are bad but nobody asks why or how He doesn't trust textbooks so he goes to original sources and studies He studied the digestive system, physiology, and mechanisms of how food is digested and the hormone responses If we eat evolutionary appropriate foods like meat, tubers, and berries, for example, the sensors in our small intestine and resulting hormone signaling is fine If we eat flour and ground starches it's very different and not fine But humans have been processing food for all of history? Looks at this with cooking of food vs. raw food, pre-digesting proteins Studies looking at eating a whole apple and a blended apple with all it's pulp (not just the juice which would be different) - more glucose and insulin response to blended apple THings aren't the same once you break down the structure of the plant Questioning nutrition labels because of this After this surge of glucose, insulin dips below baseline a couple hours later and you become hypoglycemic. And then hungry. Studies show this is also when self-reported satiety kicks in As well as ghrelin surge (which is the hunger signaling hormone) Glycemic index and glycemic load can be thought of proxies for how processed something is or "lacking plant structure" This is why we get inconsistent studies when we use observational data using glycemic index or load as a proxy Fiber is a better indicator because usually these people aren't adding back in fiber - it means they are eating whole foods Also if you destroy the plant structure by processing then add fiber back in it's not as good - you already destroyed the structure But some fiber is good that swell when you add them back because they increase the volume and slow the gastric emptying Simple message is it's better to just eat plant foods in their whole form He also says it's safer to just eat animal foods - protein and fat - that don't have these problems when processed Better to eat carbs at the end of the meal Better to eat slowly Rodent studies show they get more obese when they grind the normal chow Rodent studies are poorly done in general because the chow they use is highly processed with no real food ingredients Their synthetic diet also causes dysbiosis in their large intestine Gut permeability and small intestinal bacterial overgrowth (SIBO), etc. in humans Sometimes the body needs a small and purposeful inflammation In inflammatory disease it's a chronic inflammation, not acute He does almost all animal foods plus some fruit because of his condition People don't need to cut out all carbs, but it would be smart to do an elimination diet and add foods back in gradua

Tucker Goodrich is a Wall Street tech extraordinaire and nutrition science enthusiast. After doctors and the healthcare system let him down in severe and avoidable ways, he took his health into his own hands and had amazing results. He's done a ton of research on Omega 6 fatty acids otherwise known as seed oils otherwise known as vegetable oils previously known as an industrial waste product before we started feeding them to humans. He makes a compelling case for them being a major factor in many, if not all, modern diseases. You'll definitely not want to be eating fast food fries cooked in old, rancid vegetable oils after this episode. The sunburn stuff at the end is legit. I won't spoil it, but just know Robb Wolf just backed this up on his podcast with science. There is a mechanism there that makes total sense and I've seen it anecdotally as well. We seem to have stalled out with the Food Lies film Indiegogo campaign. Please keep supporting us there. This documentary and podcast is all done by support of people like you. We're not taking any outside money other than from my own pocket to fund this. Thanks so much, I sincerely appreciate it. http://indiegogo.com/projects/food-lies-post Show Notes Works on Wall Street and developed software that deals with trillions of dollars of assets Had a stroke-like event at age 38 Then got acute diverticulitis Got a colon resection and followed "healthy" diet and doctor's advice and was still sick He called himself "Mr. Whole Wheat" - stopped eating sugar when he was 19 so that wasn't it 16 years of IBS… finally found Stephan Guyenet's blog http://stephanguyenet.com Started fixing himself in 2 days using dietary change His surgery was probably unnecessary He is well connected to Daniel Lieberman and The Story of the Human Body Diseases of civilization Agriculture allowed us to build cities, paved the way for written language to keep track of grains, etc. We over-hunted all the very large animals From eating grains we got shorter, got cavities, lesions on bones, all while our population exploded We used to be more robust and have bigger brains Diabetes used to be super rare - we have medical records of this Cancer a huge problem in Germany Heart disease in England Diseases went around the world as eating patterns went around the world We even give other species diabetes and our diseases when we feed them our foods - monkeys, dogs, cats - even racoons who eat human garbage Weston A. Price needs to be mentioned for his great work Realization came at the salad bar with the dressings Cut all vegetable oils and cured himself Cut out carbs and processed foods and exercised less and lost tons of weight Started doing more research - lots of people said seed oils are bad, but nobody really explained the mechanism back then Maybe the largest epidemiological study ever on saturated fat in India looking at the northern and southern populations The south who ate like our food pyramid suggests had 7-15 times the heart disease rate How about England? Heart disease skyrocketed with the intro of seed oils Okinawa is a Blue Zone - place where people live abnormally long First fast food restaurant opened in Okinawa Okinawa went from the longest lifespan in Japan to the shortest Seed oil consumption tracks modern disease all over the world These cultures were eating a high carb diet so it's likely not the carbs - the carb consumption actually went down Japanese and chinese are some of the shortest populations and they subsist on high carb, low meat diet. We know we got shorter when agriculture was invented. We know when we lower carb intake and up meat intake populations get taller Grains are a "fallback food" It's funny that rich people in Santa Monica purposely try to live in the Failed Environment Metabolic State while thinking they're morally superior to us Tarahumara Indians eat this way - their children have a malnutrition rate of 80% Carbohydrate is a cofactor. 5 key studies: rats and diabetes & heart failure; (Ghosh 2004); LA and obesity (Alvheim 2012) Lyon Diet Heart (De Lorgeril 1994); Seed oils and insulin resistance in India (Nigam 2014); Seed oils and NAFLD, (Maciejewska 2015) Lyon heart study - lowered Omega 6 and raised Omega 3 to improve heart attack risk of repeat by 70% William Lands: "I've studied saturated fat for 50 years and never found a mechanism that it could kill somebody" American Heart Association's "Prudent Diet" proved to be outright harmful to people in this study History of LDL cholesterol and heart disease To make LDL atherogenic omega 6 fats need to be oxidized Researchers found this mechanism before De Lorgeril had success with replacing Omega 6s with olive oil, where he improved heart attack outcomes without knowing the mechanism Researchers prime rats to get cancer and can't do this unless they use omega 6s Western Cancers and the P53 gene mutation Japanese women moving to America breast cancer went up 7 fold Why is there DNA damage present in all wes

Today we have Craig and Maria Emmerich who have a long history of contributing to the low carb community. They have done a ton of health consulting, speaking, writing of great books and cookbooks, and also built a large community around their blog and facebook. They have a lot of hands-on knowledge and experience working with people and with the ins and outs of implementing a great diet and healthy lifestyle. We got into some interesting details that haven't come up on the podcast before like oxidative priority, being censored by a TV news show, butter chuggers, keto babies, the science of high carb diets, the Failed Environment Metabolic State, keto desserts, and a lot more. I just got back from our film tour when we recorded this, which will definitely be apparent during my frequent mentions of Mark Sisson. He's a great guy and I want to be like him when I am in my mid 60s, running around with 20 years olds playing ultimate frisbee. His book Primal Blueprint got me started with all of this years ago and is a great read. He'll be in the film along with a ton of great doctors and researchers. Please continue to support Food Lies on Indiegogo - we haven't raised enough money to finish the film yet. By pre-ordering a copy or buying the "It's what else you eat, not the meat" T-shirt you are directly helping this film's creation and will be listed in the credits. We're personally matching every dollar that is coming in, but we're still behind. Thank you so much and here's Maria and Craig. http://indiegogo.com/projects/food-lies-post Show Notes: They live in rural Wisconsin and hunt and smoke ribs Halle Berry is a fan of Maria's keto cookbooks They wrote a great book called Keto. https://www.amazon.com/Keto-Complete-Ketogenic-including-Simplified/dp/1628602821 Oxidative priority: your body burns fuels in a specific order which is correlated to how much it can store of each, in reverse order Alcohol burns first, then exogenous ketones, protein, carbohydrate, and lastly fat Becoming fat adapted Many benefits, especially in athletics. Better mitochondrial efficiency Low carb longevity study and how bogus it is Quality of the fats and carbs are of utmost importance Studies show the majority of people lie in self-reported food studies Maria was asked not to talk about restricting cereal on a TV news show who's major sponsor was a cereal company Nutrient density - animal foods far superior but because of the saturated fat and cholesterol they are demonized The sheath of our bones is made up of saturated fat When fat adapted you don't lose muscle or bone mass when fasting Nutrient density!! It's all about the animal products. Plants foods don't hold a candle Obviously animal foods have way more bioavailable protein and nutrients as well People do keto wrong and make fat bombs and put butter in their coffee - you're getting no nutrients and probably too many calories (you can overeat fat on keto) A piece of meat is naturally keto at about 70% fat Gluconeogenesis is a demand driven process If you eat too much protein and your insulin spikes it's because you are insulin resistant If you're insulin resistant, not only do you need to avoid carbs, sugar, and most fruit, but also too much fat with protein To reverse insulin resistance you need to shrink your fat cells so they aren't overstuffed and inflamed Can be skinny and still have diabetes To reverse you just need to get more fuel from your body than your diet Protein sparing modified fast - adequate protein, almost no carb, fat is a lever A lot of time a stall in weight loss is due to dairy consumption The great importance of sleep which even affects insulin resistance Unifying theory of nutrition Why is fat the preferred fuel source? How other diet work. Can a vegan diet work? Their experience with clients Vegans Maria works with trying to do keto are on antidepressants Protein from grains or soy can't stimulate Mtor or muscle building Need complete proteins and amino acids (all found in animal products) Mother's milk is high in cholesterol… so when does it become evil? Men lowering their cholesterol with statins often need Viagra Also, babies are constantly in ketosis for the breastfeeding years The label keto is kind of a fad right now, but the low carb high fat diet is the exact opposite of a fad and what we've been doing some version of it for all of human history Smart vegans understand it's nutritionally inferior and say they wouldn't do it while pregnant Vegan on the show Alone knew he had to eat animal foods to survive Fiber causes a lot of intestinal stress actually and we actually don't even need it Make sure you're getting enough salt - it isn't bad How some people are able to tolerate carbs if they go low fat and whole foods enough It's so hard to eat enough plant matter, vegans are basically just calorie restricting to lose weight or stay thin Ideal diet uses oxidative priority - eliminate a lot of the fuel sources, adequate protein, eat at a deficit witho

Today we have a rare in-studio podcast with Mikhaila Peterson. You may have seen here on the news or in articles (where she is being attacked). Her and her dad Jordan Peterson eat an all meat diet which the mainstream media and doctors seem to have a giant problem with. This is just her story, and yes she has specific problems, but I think there's value in hearing this and considering an elimination diet to see how you feel. You can always add back in foods slowly. You never know if you could be on a whole new plane of existence and feel that much more amazing if you eliminate foods that could be giving you problems. Also, I should say that I have no problem with the carnivore diet but believe it should be done from a more nose to tail approach. At least get some liver and bone broth in the mix. Just my 2 cents. Mikhaila came into the studio to film for a little segment of the Food Lies film. We did a relatively short podcast and then did some film-specific stuff. Please support the Food Lies by pre-ordering on Indiegogo. It's the only way this film or even this podcast is possible. I'm keeping this ad-free because, as a podcast listener myself, I hate to interrupt good content with ads. So please know that pre-ordering the film and/or getting the Eat Meat t-shirt is a way of supporting us. http://indiegogo.com/projects/food-lies-post Show notes Mikhaila is in SAPIEN Headquarters live in studio the day before she goes on the Joe Rogan podcast People don't think of diet when they think of stuff like depressions, anxiety, arthritis, etc. when it is likely the first place we should be looking Her story of growing up with terrible health problems that went undiagnosed Had a pretty healthy diet until college Got laughed at by doctors when mom mentioned oranges caused a flare up Then got a rash that pushed it over the edge. Looked into celiac disease She started an elimination diet without knowing anything about food She accidentally started eating an autoimmune disease protocol diet Everything changed when she got pregnant Cut down from meat and salad to just meat Why didn't doctors question what she was eating through all her visits over her life? She had her hip replaced and an ankle replaced as a child She has specific problems, so it's in one way her specific circumstance, but in another, it's representative of many people Slowly getting worse over the years without realizing it. The new norm is 20 pounds overweight Brain health: Depression, anxiety, Alzheimer's, etc. Some people can cheat, but others have to be really strict with their diet Her dad is Jordan Peterson https://jordanbpeterson.com and has his own struggle with physical and mental problems People attack her and her dad and say it's a placebo effect or they are lying, etc. Vegan propaganda Vitamin C and other vitamins, minerals, and bloodwork Adjusting to the all meat diet I had no cravings for sweets after only 2 days on carnivore Should all people try out an elimination diet? Even just cutting sugar and grains can make a world of difference. Also could lose soy and dairy she says All animal based diets and all plant based diets are equally extreme Eating this way is a lot easier and not hard to stick to Stefansson https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vilhjalmur_Stefansson Morning sickness could just be eating foods that don't agree with you and your growing baby Pregnant women who crave meat or sardines - your body is telling you something We have the wrong message in America demonizing meat which we know is especially needed during pregnancy Meanwhile Germany has the correct message and has meat vending machines Preorder the film here: http://indiegogo.com/projects/food-lies-post Film site: http://FoodLies.org YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/FoodLies Sapien Movement: http://SapienMovement.com Follow along: http://twitter.com/FoodLiesOrg http://instagram.com/food.lies http://facebook.com/FoodLiesOrg Theme music by https://kylewardmusic.com/

Dr. Bill Schindler is the director of the Eastern Shore Food Lab at Washington College where he is also an associate professor of archaeology and anthropology. Two years ago he co-hosted the National Geographic show The Great Human Race. He spent the last year abroad continuing his hands-on research and professional development by immersing himself and his family with indigenous and traditional groups around the world to learn about their food and diets. As an experimental archaeologist and primitive technologist his specialties are in recreating technologies of the past to better interpret our ancestral diets. His current focus is learning how to translate the outcomes of that research into something meaningful for modern day diet and health and is working to fuse lessons from our ancestral dietary past with modern culinary arts to create a food system that is relevant, accessible and meaningful to modern Western life. We got into so many interesting things like the development of humans and how it tracked with food technology, drinking blood and milk with pastoral tribes in Africa, eating brains, ancient food preparation and hunting, my favorite topic - nutrient density, and so much more. It was so enlightening talking to him, I'll stop talking now so you can have a listen. I have to mention the Food Lies film. Preorder on Indiegogo to support its creation and this podcast. Thanks! http://indiegogo.com/projects/food-lies-post Show Notes Dr. Bill Schindler is a professor at Washington College in Maryland Director of Eastern Shore Food Lab https://www.washcoll.edu/departments/eastern-shore-food-lab/ His whole life has led up to his career and interests His dad took him into nature and he learned to deal with taking an animal's life even though he didn't enjoy it Also grew up with mom and grandmother in kitchen cooking - realized it was all connected Learned to hunt and make tools as our ancestors did He became what's known as an experimental archeologist Almost every single primitive technology made is related to food. Every tool and invention was based on getting food, processing food, storing food THe realization of the different types of food processing made all the difference Food processing of the past all focused on INCREASING nutrient density All modern food processing focused on money savings, shipping, shelf life, etc. Modern food processing also DECREASES nutrient density Not everything new we do is bad though Dairy is a hot topic. Just because we didn't always consume it or other mammals don't consume it past a certain time in their life, doesn't mean it's not healthy (if you tolerate it) Everything changed 3.4 million years ago when we made the first tool Humans are one of the weakest species on the planet on our own Our bodies and brains were quite small before we created tools to access meat Our digestive systems are actually pretty inefficient. We need to process our food with tools and fire to feed our large brains We have bones from Ethiopia that have butcher marks on them from this time, as well as impact fractures to get bone marrow inside 2 million years ago the invention of fire and some other hunting techniques were monumental for our species Humans started off as scavengers Once we started actually hunting ourselves we had first access to the animals we killed so therefore all the most nutrient dense, choice parts like the organ meats, etc. Results in a huge increase in body and brain size and women catch up in size to men more We mimic other animals in techniques of acquiring and processing foods Our biology isn't set up to eat meat like other carnivores - humans are set up to use tools and technology to consume nutrient dense animal products As we changed our diets, our bodies adapted to it. Homo sapiens wouldn't have made it 300,000 years ago if we didn't develop these extensions of our physical form necessary to cook and process meat We have brains that require high quality animal fats to function What is domestication? Humans were the first domesticated species - we domesticated ourselves Our teeth got smaller as we started relying on processing food outside of our bodies If we had absolutely nothing and were left to survive, the first thing we'd have to do is create a tool or control fire. Our body can do almost nothing on it's own Our food technology tracked with our body and brain size over history Almost all our modern produce was at one point toxic Nobody knows our exact diet 300k years ago, but that doesn't matter - we have certain nutritional requirements that were established We accomplished the impossible back then, but even more impossible we now have gotten ourselves obese and malnourished at the same time We're using modern processing to create nutrient-free food and it is what we are basically programmed to seek out in the modern food environment He argued with a pediatrician who was demanding patients to drink skim milk We evolved away from our chimp ancestors who's

Luis is a smart and level-headed guy that doesn't get caught up in a lot of dietary dogma. He has been helping people lose weight and get in better shape for many, many years. He's the cofounder of an awesome community called Ketogains. You need to google some photos of him to make sure you appreciate the advice he gives. He definitely is proving you can gain muscle on a keto diet even though most people believe you need a ton of carbs to do so. Take a listen and I think you'll enjoy his simple message, which is definitely not just for people trying to get swole. I've gained muscle on somewhat of a ketogenic diet over past 6 months and just released a video on youtube showing all the details because a lot of people have been asking about it. We also are back on Indiegogo with new "It's what else you eat, not the meat" shirts and now unisex tank tops. We still need your support to make the Food Lies film happen. My production partner and I are matching every dollar that comes in, but we still have a ways to go to reach the full budget. Thanks so much and enjoy the episode. Preorder Food Lies http://indiegogo.com/projects/food-lies-post Show Notes Luis is the co-founder of KetoGains.com but it's not all about bodybuilding. It's more about nutrition and staying fit and many clients are middle aged women. It's not only low carb all the time, but it's usually better His story of being chubby as a kid, then skinny as a teen Used a low carb approach to gain muscle after college Fat is a lever His rhyme: Protein is a goal to make you grow, carbs are a limit to stay below, and fat is a fuel so you are not slow Don't chase ketones, chase results You don't really need to be measuring ketone levels unless you are using keto in a therapeutic context to treat a disease What is the role of protein and how much do you actually need? Gluconeogenesis Just eat nutrient dense foods and don't worry about counting calories or ketones Your body doesn't know what you are deficient in Can be malnourished and obese at the same time Answer is nutrient dense foods Can't replace one bad habit with another At some point you have to reduce calories one way or another Our ancestors managed calories naturally Prehistoric fruits were much different in edible mass and lower sugar People thinking baked apple pie with agave is part of a healthy paleo diet Need to change your relationship with food Got no time for keto breads and cheats Food has become and entertainment industry. Scientifically developed to make you eat. Cheesecake exists - it's your job to eat it responsibly Cost is not an excuse - eating healthy can actually be cheaper Can easily eat for $5-7 per day Sardines are cheap, delicious, and super nutrient dense Luis's best sources of protein and vegetables More efficient metabolism when very fat adapted and eating low carb for a long time Evolutionary perspective on getting the most energy from things we do You can pig out at a bbq and just make it a warrior meal and not have to eat again for 22 hours and you'll be fine Intermittent fasting and condensed eating windows, or as he calls it "intelligent intermittent fasting" Training fasted is not good for building muscle Appropriate feasting after fasting Gaining muscle on a ketogenic diet Insulin is a nutrient transport signaling hormone Can you lose weight and/or remain thin while building muscle at the same time? What about people new to lifting weights? Compound lifts - multi-joint exercises. Bayesian Bodybuilding Can actually train every muscle group 5 times per week for more gains Training each muscle group separately is known as the "bro split" He has 3 routines that he cycles through, each focusing on a lift, but includes full body Cardio myths It's way more about diet than exercise Going to failure? "That which cannot be measured, cannot be managed" using apps or notebooks to track weights and routines You need to push yourself each week and constantly be adding weight Preorder the film here: http://indiegogo.com/projects/food-lies-post Film site: http://FoodLies.org YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/FoodLies Sapien Movement: http://SapienMovement.com Follow along: http://twitter.com/FoodLiesOrg http://instagram.com/food.lies http://facebook.com/FoodLiesOrg Theme music by https://kylewardmusic.com/

Dr. Georgia Ede is a psychiatrist, researcher, and an advocate of nutrition and diet as an alternative approach to standard medications. She's also a speaker and writer and although has spent much time working and taking courses at Harvard, she has not fallen into their plant based diet dogma. She, in fact, researchers plants and some of their negative effects in a human diet. It really seems counterintuitive to most, but there is hard science out there about this. People are curing diseases and their depression and anxiety by cutting out certain plant foods. She's also an expert on Alzheimer's and how what we eat affects the onset of this scary disease which we get into a little. We also do some more debunking of studies including the new low carb and longevity study as well as that old WHO study trying to claim red meat causes cancer. Please listen carefully to this important and eye-opening episode. I really enjoyed my discussion with her and she provides a lot of great information. We're in the last 24 hours of the Food Lies Indiegogo campaign so please preorder the film there now to make sure you get it. Backers will receive the film a couple months early and there's a bunch of other perks you can get as well. You'll get your name in the credits as a backer of the film as well as options like the "It's what else you eat, not the meat" t shirt and the special features bonus footage. THanks so much for supporting us in this project. It really is a lot of work and we're not accepting outside funding - only from people like you. Ok now enjoy the show! http://indiegogo.com/projects/food-lies-post Show notes Georgia had 2-3 hours of nutritional education over 4 years of medical school and didn't receive any nutritional education while studying to be a psychiatrist for 4 years Nutritional epidemiology dominates most of the nutritional studies in the world Plant foods contain antinutrients and lack key brain nutrients, Dha, B-12 Refined carbs are mood destabilizers It is possible that chemicals that plants use to protect themselves can exacerbate mental health conditions by entering the bloodstream Plant seeds are the most heavily defended part of plants, have lectins and phytic acid which makes it hard for us to digest them Georgia has recommended an animal based diet as an all natural approach to treating depression Spinach contains iron that we can't absorb Sugar rushes to the brain which makes it hard for insulin to cross the brain, this is a contributor to alzheimer's phytic acid is considered an anti nutrient, however it also fights cancer and prevents iron overloads in people Vitamins D, E, A, and K are all fat-soluble Two types of fiber, soluble and insoluble Her article in Psychology Today about the The Antioxidant Myth https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/diagnosis-diet/201712/the-antioxidant-myth Pom Wonderful does more harm than good with a huge load of sugar and a few antioxidants that aren't even bioavailable Sulforaphane, curcumin, oxidation, and free radicals Alzheimer's and type 3 diabetes - it's all about the insulin! Harvard School of Public Health has a goal to try to find a way to show meat is bad and promote grains as much as possible Epidemiology is the only area of science that has any indication that red meat is bad for you The one study the WHO put out on red meat being bad is based on very poor quality studies and only 2 are clinical trials in humans that don't really show anything Debunking the new low carb decreases lifespan study Low carb group wasn't even low carb. There's also way too many variables to make any conclusions THe whole hypothesis that meat would be cancerous is ludicrous in the first place Dr. Walter Willet defends nutritional epidemiology Harvard School of Public Health's agenda If you eat all plant based diet you're a healthy hero, if you eat all animal based diet you're a deranged madman. They're both extreme and both sides think they are completely correct and all the world's problems would be solved if everyone went on their diet. http://DiagnosisDiet.com Twitter @GeorgiaEdeMD Preorder the film here: http://indiegogo.com/projects/food-lies-post Film site: http://FoodLies.org Podcast site: http://peak-human.com YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/FoodLies Follow along: http://twitter.com/FoodLiesOrg http://instagram.com/food.lies http://facebook.com/FoodLiesOrg Theme music by https://kylewardmusic.com/

Ok everyone, we're back early! The Harvard studies and researchers need debunking. Low carb diets reduce lifespan? Coconut oil is pure poison? I've had enough of this insanity. Not only is Monsanto funding a lot of their studies, but I think they really believe this vegan stuff and it's turning them into bad scientists. Good scientists don't have pre-existing beliefs and they should work to disprove their theories. I think they need some more saturated fat in their diet to help their brains work better. So I got Dr. Bret Scher, who is an intellectual powerhouse to help debunk their nonsense. He's a cardiologist, a speaker, a podcaster, a scholar, and a gentleman. So let's kick off season 2 with a bang. I've been planning and searching for guests for the past couple months and have talked to some really interesting people so far. This is going to be good everyone, looking forward to it. Don't forget we're on Indiegogo trying to raise some more money for post-production. We need this movie to look as good as all the information that it provides - so don't make me try to edit this myself. Let's rally the troops and make this happen together! http://indiegogo.com/projects/food-lies-post Show Notes It is hard for the average person to decipher what a scientific study is really saying, therefore people have to rely on news outlets Low-Carb diets can shorten life expectancy study Similar study in 2010, these studies just follow various individuals for many years and see who gets certain medical conditions and look for associations Low-Carb and longevity study looked at low carb diets in which 37% of calories came from carbs, these are not true low carb diets The collected data from this study was drawing associations rather than causations This study includes a paragraph stating how at baseline the individuals on low carb diets tended to smoke more, exercise less, and were a higher percentage at diabetics (they were less healthy from the beginning of the study and the study cannot control these factors) This study only collected data twice and asked participants to fill out a questionnaire based on what they can remember about what they ate over the course of the past several years Senator McGovern's warnings High fat diet causes diabetes study, mice were force fed crisco and got diabetes Harvard researcher talking about saturated fat in coconut oil https://www.theguardian.com/food/2018/aug/22/coconut-oil-is-pure-poison-says-harvard-professor Minnesota coronary experiment Sydney diet heart study Carrie Diulus LDL responds to injury in the vessel wall LDL to HDL ratio is a far more effective way to measure cholesterol rather than just being frightened by a high LDL Low carb approach is not one size fits all, however all doctors should at least consider it as a potential tool Making it financially viable to actually take care of patients in big healthcare institutions Preorder the film here: http://indiegogo.com/projects/food-lies-post Film site: http://FoodLies.org YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/FoodLies Sapien Movement: http://SapienMovement.com Follow along: http://twitter.com/FoodLiesOrg http://instagram.com/food.lies http://facebook.com/FoodLiesOrg Theme music by https://kylewardmusic.com/

Today we're hearing from Gary Taubes who I got a chance to interview for Food Lies a couple months ago when he was in LA. Gary is an investigative science and health journalist who for the past 20 years has been questioning the bad science that's been done along with the mainstream nutritional wisdom. He's written some groundbreaking articles in the New York Times and has written multiple best selling books. He's won various awards for his journalism and is a real authority on nutrition science so it was a treat to hear his musings on all of this. He generously lent me 2 hours of his time so we covered a lot - there's a ton of links in the show notes. We get into some interesting details at the end so stick around. This actually will be the last episode of the season. I already have an almost fully booked next season of episodes and have begun interviewing. There will be a a little break because these episodes are a lot of work even if it doesn't seem like it. I'll also be busy for a couple weeks on a film tour across the US next week followed by some other filming and editing. The big news is we are starting a new crowdfunding campaign as of today, this time on Indiegogo. Too many people missed out on pre-ordering the film and have been reaching out to me. You also can't make a documentary on the $30k we did on Indiegogo. So please support us by searching for Food Lies on Kickstarter.com or clicking through from the show notes. Now here's Gary. Pre-order the film on Indiegogo http://indiegogo.com/projects/food-lies-post Show Notes Nutrition science is almost impossible to do well and people become almost religious about their pet theories Good Calories, Bad Calories https://www.amazon.com/Good-Calories-Bad-Controversial-Science/dp/1400033462/ Historical context of good science and then nutrition science Vilhjalmur Stefansson https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vilhjalmur_Stefansson Dr. Shawn Baker and thousands of carnivores http://MeatHeals.com My call with Professor Daniel Lieberman https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Lieberman Fiber Thomas L. (Peter) Cleave https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_L._Cleave Sir Richard Doll https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Doll Burkitt's Lymphoma https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burkitt%27s_lymphoma Interviewing doctors who prescribe low carb diets Most people understand what a healthy diet is supposed to be and that they should exercise Calories in vs. calories out analogy Eat more, move less Why We Get Fat: And What to do About It https://www.amazon.com/Why-We-Get-Fat-About/dp/0307474259/ Why do obese people's body hang onto fat while skinny people's bodies don't. This is the question that needs to be asked Hormones Psychologists and psychiatrists used to be the ones looking at obesity - why do they eat so much? The study of obesity was somehow divorced from the basic science of endocrinology Group think What kind of studies can we make to prove this? But sugar calories are different Cold fusion fiasco https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cold_fusion Bad Science book https://www.amazon.com/Bad-Science-Short-Weird-Fusion/dp/0394584562 Francis Bacon https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francis_Bacon "You start accumulating evidence to prove you were right all along" Philosophising on vegan diets and longevity Can we ever know the answers? How fat works on a cellular level How do very low fat diets even work? Are vegans more starch tolerant? Why is sugar uniquely fattening and not just another calorie The Case Against Sugar https://www.amazon.com/Case-Against-Sugar-Gary-Taubes/dp/0307701646 Salt and what we got wrong http://science.sciencemag.org/content/281/5379/898 http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/03/opinion/sunday/we-only-think-we-know-the-truth-about-salt.html? More Daniel Lieberman bogus ideas Earliest humans probably ate high fat large animals Are we making progress? Swiss Re conference http://institute.swissre.com/events/food_for_thought_bmj.html This giant re-insurance company has a lot to gain financially if they figure out what the right diet is to prevent or cure diabetes is Smart people and good scientists ask questions and don't speak in absolutes A theory is supposed to get stronger with time, not weaker. So why is there a new headline every week, showing another exception? Fat is bad paradigm gets weaker and weaker Send topics and questions for the "Meeting of the minds" with Gary Taubes, Prof. Tim Noakes, Nina Teicholz, and Dom D'Agostino to me @FoodLiesOrg on Twitter and @food.lies on Instagram Pre-order the film on Indiegogo http://indiegogo.com/projects/food-lies-post Film site: http://FoodLies.org Podcast site: http://peak-human.com YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/FoodLies Sapien Movement: http://SapienMovement.com Follow along: http://twitter.com/FoodLiesOrg http://instagram.com/food.lies http://facebook.com/FoodLiesOrg Theme music by https://kylewardmusic.com/

Today we have Peter Ballerstedt who has a Phd in forage production and utilization. He's also an expert in ruminant nutrition (this means cows, sheep, bison, etc.) He travels around the US and world giving lectures on the necessity and benefits of animal agriculture, for the health of our environment and human nutrition. I love him because he presents facts that go against the mainstream narrative and the animal rights propaganda that is absolutely rampant and taking over the conversation. He's one of the only voices we have, so appreciate him and listen to his wise words. You may have noticed I skipped a week putting out episodes - I had to prep for our upcoming film tour and make the Shawn Baker and Ted Naiman videos - check them out on Youtube. https://www.youtube.com/c/FoodLies It's the last days of the Food Lies film Indiegogo campaign - please pre-order the film. It's the only way to be sure to be able to get it and share it with family and friends. It could take months to get to Netflix or never even make it there. Who knows. Just know you'll likely get the film 3 months in advance if you pre-order now on Indiegogo before the campaign ends on August 10th. http://indiegogo.com/projects/food-lies-post I really appreciate all the support so far, we can't do it without you all. Let's hear what the leader of the Ruminant Revolution has to say. Show notes What Peter does for a living - forage agronomist Eating beef is not only good for you, it is in fact good for the environment as well. All cows spend the majority of their life on pasture The facts around animal agriculture are skewed and basically the opposite of what the mainstream narrative has led us to believe We're removed from the entire process of raising animals Very small and well-funded minority of animal rights activists with the loudest voices They claim the majority of the land is used for animal agriculture. The truth is there's 4 times as much rangeland we can use for cows or other ruminants that can't be used for crops The vegan rope starts unraveling Wildly exaggerated claims of environmental impact if we ate less meat Let's look at insulinemia and diabetes Animal agriculture more greenhouse gas emissions than transportation based on a flawed and retracted study Cows aren't alchemists. The CO2 containing compounds they release came from the grass they are which got it's CO2 from the atmosphere. They're finding it harder and harder to try to claim eating meat is bad for you so they're trying harder and harder to claim it's bad for the environment Don't feel guilty if you're eating some or all animal products in your diet and restoring your health If you haven't heard of Mikhaila Peterson http://mikhailapeterson.com here's an articel https://www.healthline.com/health-news/meat-only-diet-eased-autoimmune-disease-symptoms#7 Jordan Peterson talks about his carnivore diet on Joe Rogan's podcast https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGikB-54Lwk We talk about soil health The role of ruminants in reducing agriculture's carbon footprint in North America http://www.jswconline.org/content/71/2/156.short Climate change and CO2 How the carbon cycle actually works with grasses and grazing cows CO2 helps plants to grow faster The great horse manure crisis of 1894 https://www.historic-uk.com/HistoryUK/HistoryofBritain/Great-Horse-Manure-Crisis-of-1894/ plant protein and micronutrient content is far less than animal equivalent Study with oysters, beans, and corn tortillas showing zinc absorption https://www.researchgate.net/publication/22684528_Studies_on_the_bioavailability_of_zinc_in_man_II_Absorption_of_zinc_from_inorganic_sources We can study the diet and outcomes of animals and make lots of conclusions, but can't do that for humans "Our animals have never been healthier, and humans have never been sicker" Modern societies are dependent on ruminant animals. We need to meet the growing need for animal protein with the growing population. For an ancient food to cause a modern disease is ludicrous The danger of nitrates and nitrites has been debunked Omega 3 and Omega 6 What's going on with this carnivore thing? All plant diets = healthy hero. All meat diet = insane person who's going to die "Diet for a Small Planet" and "Population Bomb" Lab grown meat How'd the margarine experiment go? Can you really replicate all the intricacies of meat? It's not just a protein matrix. Do we trust the makers to even get the ratios of fat/protein correct? Ruminants are part of the lifecycle of grasslands and soil health, we shouldn't exclude them. Essential for watersheds, carbon cycle - what's their replacement? We shouldn't put a big portion of our food supply into the hands of one company that gets the patent or a few big companies Where are the nutrients going to come from? They're starting from a false nutritional premise What about other wealth generation from cows, especially in developing countries What about the energy it would take to cool and produce all this lab

One of my favorite humans I have never met in person, Lierre Keith, shares a ton of information with us today. We talked for almost 2 hours and could have gone longer. You may recognize her from the Netflix film The Magic Pill - she was a hardcore vegan for 20 years and lived the lifestyle with passion. I won't give away everything, but she wholeheartedly enjoys animal products now and wrote a book that thoroughly refutes the three major tenets vegans and vegetarians stand on. They claim a plant based diet is better morally, better for the environment, and superior nutritionally. As I know, and you at home probably are aware of by now, the opposite is true on all accounts. We also bring up the Sapien Movement near the end as a way to join together and fight the vegan propaganda, spread the truth, and work to improve the way we do agriculture and human nutrition. The site is live at SapienMovement.com and you can also find the group on Facebook and the twitter and instagram accounts, all under that name. The goal is to "End industrial agriculture and eat ancestrally" - other than that, It's not defined yet. Join us and help us figure out what we can do to make a difference. As we speak, I'm in San Diego filming with some awesome researchers and doctors. We still really need your help if you haven't pre-ordered or contributed to the film - it's called Food Lies and it's on http://indiegogo.com/projects/food-lies-post Thanks so much to everyone who has supported us so far. Let's hear from Lierre! Show notes: How she got caught in the vegan ideology Body began to degrade, but she ignored it due to beliefs Blood sugar and insulin problems Not getting enough protein, fat, or cholesterol Honeymoon of phase where veganism works Her spine and joints started falling apart Skin problems, reproductive problems Nasty soy and hormone problems Damaged stomach and can't produce proper acid Reach out to her at http://lierrekeith.com if you are a vegan and having problems Her book The Vegetarian Myth begins with breakin down the moral argument Where we went wrong with salt https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/08/health/salt-health-effects.html Plants are beginning to become dependant on humans to plant them because they are too big, humans have to clear land Monocropping only takes from land, plants don't give back and chemicals/fossil fuel is required in large amounts Most vegans don't understand the negative traits of monocropping The water table has dropped far due to monocropping, oil drilling is used to get to the water Ruminants and grass coevolved Cows should not be fed corn Cows stimulate the growth of grass Bison make mini wetlands with their horns by stabbing land above water E. coli is a result of factory farming and over usage of antibiotics Cowspiracy is not based on real evidence and some of the individuals involved admitted they were wrong It is hard to present facts to groups of individuals who are always convinced that their ideology is correct despite what any evidence points to Grow your own food to reduce carbon footprint Lierre talks about her gardening experience/realization about the cycle of life Many vitamins are only available in animal fat Some individuals need to eat meat because they can't make the enzyme that converts the vitamin a found in carrots There is not any plant source for vitamin B12, this has caused physical harm to some vegans such as damaged vision or hearing Omega-3's and omega-6's get converted into fats USDA used to not even consider soy a food Studies showing higher mortality rates for people using vegetable oils [LINK] Big health organizations have admitted that they have made mistakes when telling us what to eat The govt. is subsidizing the worst food for us, corn, wheat and soy Wheat is addictive 1800 marks the beginning of the fossil fuel age Agriculture requires intensive labor and is resulting in poor nutrition Lierre talks about agriculture during the age of empires to explain some of the negative traits of agriculture that are still relevant today Phytoestrogens in soy are harmful Soy consumption among children contributes to precocious puberty Soy disrupts the hippocampus which can lead to memory problems The Japanese eat soy as a condiment rather than as a protein substitute Quick overview of what Weston Price did Overview of "Nutrition and Physical Degeneration" Vegans have to cheat on their diet to maintain health Discussion about the two different metabolic states humans can exist in Noticed less low fat products when filming B-roll at the store It's all about information - we know fast food and sugar are bad This Sapien Movement is a real thing. Go to http://SapienMovement.com and @SapienMovement on twitter and Instagram, and join the private Facebook group I talk more and more about her book and how everyone should read it - find it at http://lierrekeith.com Preorder the film here: http://indiegogo.com/projects/food-lies-post Film site: http://FoodLies.org Podcast site

You may be wondering what happened to that plant based couple I talked to in episode 1… well they haven't withered away from their poor diet just yet. Just joking it isn't too bad and they seem to be pretty savvy with not eating a lot of the plant-based trash. You'll also notice they started eating sardines in this episode, so they should be getting a great boost of nutrition there to keep their bodies in tact. It took us a while to find a time to record again but we finally got a chance to finish up the conversation and get into the environmental aspects as well. I'll have some more guests talking about this side of things very soon. So now this is the time when on other podcasts you'd be hearing annoying ads for products you don't care about. Luckily, I've chosen to not try to make any money off this podcast even though it's taken hundreds of hours of work. If you're listening, you probably really care about this topic or are interested to learn more. If you're getting any value from this podcast, please show your support by contributing to the film. It's called Food Lies and is crowdfunding now on http://indiegogo.com/projects/food-lies-post Show Notes Picked up where we left off with Soy and corn are bad, many vegans don't know this Impossible burger (vegan burger) has many ingredients that may be bad for us but moreover it requires more energy to get to your fridge - worse for environment than just eating meat All cows spend 2/3 of their lives on pasture There is not a lot wrong with processed meat Contrary to popular belief, hormones are not running through beef People have more levels of estrogen, vegetable oils and soy olis have contributed to this T. Colin Campbell vs. Loren Cordain Protein U shaped curve https://twitter.com/tednaiman/status/978288369011589120 There is a movement trying to say that we don't need as much protein as we may think we do Food is 4 things, protein, fat, carbs, micronutrients Focus on protein and micronutrients while limiting your energy source to your goals - Unifying Theory You can vote with your wallet by creating a demand for sustainably raised beef when buying the right products When consuming animal products we are not eating what the animal was fed When eating liver you are not eating toxins Both the vegan and carnivore sides are in a business, however the government is more focused on selling corn, wheat, and soy compared to animal products Humans probably evolved switching between low carb and low fat diets in cycles because of not always being able to have access to meat Rotational grazing has many benefits and could be done on a large scale if there is more land, we could get this from land that is used to grow grains and soy for animals and humans We don't need fiber. Here's a study https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3435786/ The China Study was supposed to be used only as observational studies Tuoli, the native people here ate twice the amount of saturated fat as Americans but are healthier Bacon and N-nitroso compounds https://www.wired.com/2015/10/who-does-bacon-cause-cancer-sort-of-but-not-really/ Alzheimer's genes and metabolic damage from too many carbs Wrap up - we may have made some headway Preorder the film here: http://indiegogo.com/projects/food-lies-post Film site: http://FoodLies.org Podcast site: http://peak-human.com YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/FoodLies Follow along: http://twitter.com/FoodLiesOrg http://instagram.com/food.lies http://facebook.com/FoodLiesOrg Theme music by https://kylewardmusic.com/

We've got Amy Berger here to tell us about your noggin and how to keep it working well. She's got a masters in human nutrition, she's a certified nutrition specialist and a nutritional therapy practitioner, and an expert on Alzheimer's disease. What's great about her is she's taken the info from the cutting edge research being done in brain chemistry, metabolic disease, dementia, alzheimer's, cognitive decline, and a ton more and done all the dirty work to figure it out and package it up so anyone can understand it. It may get detailed at times, but just listen on. I let her do the talking so sit back and be ready to soak up some info. I'm not going to mention the Food Lies film crowdfunding on Indiegogo this time so let's just hear from Amy. Pre-order the film and watch the trailer: http://indiegogo.com/projects/food-lies-post Show Notes Her book "The Alzheimer's Antidote" https://www.amazon.com/Alzheimers-Antidote-Low-Carb-High-Fat-Cognitive/dp/1603587 We have a lot of control over our cognitive density How Alzheimer's works We know what's going on in the brain, we just don't know why It's about glucose Modern lifestyle and its effects on the brain including the most important - what we eat Insulin and low carb diets Alzheimer's is being called Type 3 diabetes Current status of the (lack of) progress on research What's the root cause? Amyloid plaque Decline starts early - even in 30s and 40 but it's not detected Processed and sugary foods are almost certainly causing gene expression Treating and/or preventing with a ketogenic or low carb diet Food is the answer. She doesn't support a vegan diet Intermittent fasting Sleep affects insulin sensitivity and is hugely important for your brain and preventing cognitive disease Exercise and BDNF Doctors aren't checking for insulin resistance or catching stuff early Triglycerides, HDL, blood pressure and salt My family and Alzheimer's and insane doctors How to have the best chances of not developing Alzheimer's disease Normal people don't need to go crazy tracking and measuring food and ketones Her book "The Alzheimer's Antidote" https://www.amazon.com/Alzheimers-Antidote-Low-Carb-High-Fat-Cognitive/dp/160358 Bonus article: Is the Leading Theory ABout Alzheimer's Wrong? https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2017/02/alzheimers-amyloid-hypothesis/517185/ Preorder the film here:http://indiegogo.com/projects/food-lies-post Film site: http://FoodLies.org Podcast site: http://peak-human.com YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/FoodLies Follow along: http://twitter.com/FoodLiesOrg http://instagram.com/food.lies http://facebook.com/FoodLiesOrg Theme music by https://kylewardmusic.com/

Hello everyone! Wanted to do an update on the Food Lies film: we're shooting at low carb USA in San Diego in a couple weeks with Ivor and a couple other doctors, including the preeminent researcher in this field (along with Dr. Steve Phinney) Dr. Jeff Volek who's studies are actually mentioned a few times in this episode. Really excited about this shoot and our next one at conference in Ohio next month. Also really excited that we're 34% funded on Indiegogo - there's been a huge surge recently so I want to thank everyone who's been contributing. I want to say the film is happening no matter what. I'll pay for it myself if I have to. So please support it - there's a link in the show notes. http://indiegogo.com/projects/food-lies-post This is really important to me. I'm not some rich guy like pete Evans who made The magic Pill. I'm a guy living on some money i saved up so that I could take time off to make this film, just trying to scrape by. My friends think I'm crazy. So tell a friend about it if you can't contribute yourself or already have. Thanks so much. Now on to this episode. Ivor Cummins is a sharp Irish gent. He's a chemical engineer by trade and his specialty is leading teams in complex problem solving scenarios. This background helped him to really dive deep into cholesterol while also being unencumbered by the outdated mainstream views of the substance. He's gone over 3,000 studies on cholesterol and made some amazing realizations. He now travels around the world speaking on this to help doctors and laypeople understand the new data and updated science. I did link to some of the graphs he will mention - they're pretty compelling - here's the link: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1kES6-ueXSghNuae5Qzh-QzbGwLThwdRs67eF9Qlle-0/edit?usp=sharing Find Ivor: http://Thefatemperor.com https://twitter.com/FatEmperor Show Notes Got back from FOOD FOR THOUGHT: THE SCIENCE AND POLITICS OF NUTRITION http://institute.swissre.com/events/food_for_thought_bmj.html Most people have a surface level understanding of cholesterol that is highly misinformed Top experts have moved on from LDL being bad How your cholesterol ratios work and why they're a better indicator. It always comes back to insulin. There's more factors beyond insulin in all these chronic diseases Cholesterol is a vital necessity to every cell in your body. It has gotten maligned just because it's found at the scene of the crime. How did we start believing cholesterol was bad? 1950s explosion of heart disease Ancel keys and the McGovern report Let's spread the word that saturated fat is bad without a real study - what's the worst that could happen? If you're telling us we can't eat stuff we've been eating for millions of years you better have some compelling data showing us why. Oh wait, you don't? Women's Health Initiative was a study for 8 years and cost a billion dollars and didn't prove anything MR FIT study didn't show anything https://books.google.com/books?id=lDdRDwAAQBAJ&pg=PT535&lpg=PT535&dq=mrfit+study+cholesterol+ivor&source=bl&ots=LmyfxwCOnz&sig=s7jvDK8UBhXu-IBKxKeHhfFXqz4&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwig3Z6bmqTcAhVKslQKHepOBGYQ6AEIcjAF#v=onepage&q=mrfit%20study%20cholesterol%20ivor&f=false Site where all studies are published regardless of the outcomes http://alltrials.net Unpublished trials and bad reporting: http://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-teicholz-saturated-fat-wont-kill-you-20170723-story.html# Research community gave the green light to big food manufacturers to use a bunch of super cheap vegetable oils, sugar,and carbs to make all these terrible low fat products Cheap ingredients with huge profit margins that harm people's health It goes against all the big companies interest to reverse the mistakes that have been made Sweden one of the first to accept low carb https://healthimpactnews.com/2013/sweden-becomes-first-western-nation-to-reject-low-fat-diet-dogma-in-favor-of-low-carb-high-fat-nutrition/ The great Cholesterol Conundrum video https://youtu.be/fuj6nxCDBZ0 Images of some of the graphs from the presentation https://docs.google.com/document/d/1kES6-ueXSghNuae5Qzh-QzbGwLThwdRs67eF9Qlle-0/edit?usp=sharing Ivor breaks down some of Dr. Jeff Volek's studies He's gone over about 3,000 studies in the past 6 years and a good one is the Helsinki Policeman's study https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9714089 Dr. David Unwin in the UK https://www.diabetes.co.uk/blog/2015/08/dr-david-unwin-publishes-more-evidence-of-low-carb-diet-benefits-in-the-bmj/ What's up with LDL cholesterol? Dave Feldmen's Cholesterol Code http://cholesterolcode.com and his discoveries almost by himself How do people actually get clogged arteries? Refined carbs and sugar are the real problem. Or the combo of that with fats. It's not saturated fat ApoE4 genotype and avoiding insulin resistance The earliest ancestral gene Human instincts for certain foods and modern sugar consumption The CAC score test to measure your actual risk for a cardiac event Mayo Clinic co

Denise is a joyful ball of energy and talent. She speaks at conferences, writes books, and is an all around great person. I love her view on things and her balanced approach, but she does lean towards the high carb diet side. But here's the thing - she advocates eating a lot of nutrient dense animal products, no sugar, grains, or vegetable oils - so a lot to agree with there. I want everyone to hear this to see an opposite approach and see if it might work for you. The Unifying Theory of Nutrition says things can work on both sides - so here's the other one. I still think it's insane to expect people to live like a tribesman in the bolivian wilderness. You're asking all of America to eat an ultra-clean Vegan diet plus organ meats. To maybe 99% of the population that sounds awful. Like the worst ever. I didn't agree on everything but I went along with it. In retrospect I could have challenged her more and I also want to see some studies that actually show this dietary approach works in a scientific setting. I could have brought up more of the points supporting low carb diet showing much better results in clinical trials and on lowering risk factors for heart disease, etc. but I didn't want to argue and we already yammered on for almost 90 min. So support the Food Lies film on Indiegogo and let's hear what Denise is all about! Show notes Famous for her teardowns of things like the China Study, and vegan propaganda like Forks Over Knives and the book How Not to Die http://deniseminger.com Her story of ruining her health as a vegan Questioning the China Study and blowing over night She always questions dogmatic thinking in the nutrition world From her book "we leave the classroom woefully unequipped with the thinking skills that matter most: how to balance open–mindedness with skepticism, how to identify bias, and how to challenge assumptions – including our own – in a way that's truly objective." Ancel keys and the story of how began thinking fat was bad for us The McGovern Report which prescribed America with a low-fat, high-carb diet. Why was meat demonized when it was and still is so highly regarded as prized source of nutrition? Confounding variables with meat-eaters. What are you eating with the meat? Lifestyles are very different for different groups Why did we ever think vegetable oils were good for us? America does not actually eat low fat. Humans can actually do well on a true low fat, whole foods diet How does this other metabolic state work? Big food would ruin things if they got the go-ahead from the government to do low-carb high fat I don't believe it's realistic at all to expect people to eat this way in America. You're asking people to eat a Vegan diet plus organ meats What would you actually be eating on this sort of diet? If you're vegan or vegetarian this doesn't work Do vegetables have anti-nutrients or other toxins we should be worried about? Is fiber necessary? Nutrient density and satiety Problem with people eating all the time Killer combo of fat and sugar… it's irresistible So how do we figure this all out? It's confusing when 2 totally different paradigms seem to work. Eating whole foods, going back to nature Preorder the film here: http://indiegogo.com/projects/food-lies-post Film site: http://FoodLies.org Podcast site: http://Peak-Human.com Youtube: http://youtube.com/c/foodlies Follow along: http://twitter.com/FoodLiesOrg http://instagram.com/food.lies http://facebook.com/FoodLiesOrg Theme music by https://kylewardmusic.com/

Today we have the mighty Dom D'Agostino who is at the forefront of the science behind why low carb diets work and specifically the more extreme form of a low carb diet you've probably heard a lot about lately - the ketogenic diet. It can be used therapeutically with the help of doctors to treat and reverse diseases like type 2 diabetes and epilepsy. It can also help the everyday person lose a lot of weight if done correctly. It's not a fad diet - although it currently could be considered a fad just because technically it is very popular right now and might get less popular in the future. It is however quite the opposite as our ancestors have likely been eating in a similar way for millions of years depending on the geography, time of year, and current world climate. I'd like to apologize for not checking the audio while I recorded - there was a effects knob on my old school mixer I use that got turned on and it put some sort of concert hall echo effect on my voice. The indiegogo campaign is going well - thanks for the support. Again - I'm not trying to make any money off this film (and I surely won't), just break even and fund the rest of post production. So watch the trailer and preorder copy to support us. http://indiegogo.com/projects/food-lies-post Show notes Dom's many conferences and travels spreading info on his research What research he does Helping people understand the benefits of a ketogenics diet Fasting, ketosis, the military, and seizures Neurodegenerative diseases and burning ketones Evolutionary function of ketones How to not be slave to sugar Choosing fat as your energy source makes it easier to control your hunger, keep your brain happy, and eat fewer calories Don't have to go high fat Teens with type 2 diabetes eating tons of carbs Carbohydrate intolerance Intermittent Fasting Cancer as a metabolic disease The Warburg Effect Glucose, ketones, and cancer and how the ketogenic diet helps prevent tumor growth More stuff on ketones and the future of beta hydroxybutyrate as an endogenous metabolite The Charlie Foundation and curing epilepsy and seizures with the ketogenic diet https://charliefoundation.org The Metabolic Health Summit in January 2019 in Los Angeles https://metabolichealthsummit.com Preorder the film here: http://indiegogo.com/projects/food-lies-post Film site: http://FoodLies.org Podcast site: http://Peak-Human.com Youtube: http://youtube.com/c/foodlies Follow along: http://twitter.com/FoodLiesOrg http://instagram.com/food.lies http://facebook.com/FoodLiesOrg Theme music by https://kylewardmusic.com/

Today I had the pleasure of speaking with Dr. Zoe Harcombe has a PhD in public health nutrition, she speaks at conferences around the world, she's wrote many books, and she's a true gem. She currently lives in rural England and apparently has a great mic and internet connection because she sounded like she was in studio with me. She's an expert on dietary guidelines (and how unscientific our current ones are), nutrition and obesity. She's a prolific writer and has an amazingly informative site that I use frequently and I suggest people check out to learn about this stuff - it's http://zoeharcombe.com - So let's hear what she has to say! Before we start I have to give a shout out to everyone who's contributed to the Indiegogo campaign, I'm so grateful. We're extending it 30 more days and I'm sure we're going to hit our goal if everyone continues to support us by pre-ordering a copy of the Food Lies film. http://indiegogo.com/projects/food-lies-post Show Notes She used to be vegetarian, but has reformed! Vegetarian bias is rampant Saturated fat is in everything - how is it bad? Our nutrition guidelines are BS Why 5 a day isn't based on anything High nutrition of meat, fish, eggs, dairy and low nutrition of fruit and some veg How you can eat a nutrient complete diet for $5.53/day How cancer is not caused by whole foods like red meat that we've been eating for millions of years Big fellas at weddings crushing rice at every meal There's more myths out there we've all just come to believe including bad cholesterol, drinking tons of water, eating tons of fiber The Vegetarian Myth (Lierre Keith - great book http://LierreKeith.com ) all their arguments break down Cows and other ruminants are imperative to a healthy planet and food security Vegan/vegetarian food is raping our planet Allan Savory's TED talk https://www.ted.com/talks/allan_savory_how_to_green_the_world_s_deserts_and_reverse_climate_change Grass-Fed Nation by Graham Harvey https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/28256297-grass-fed-nation No such thing as a heart-healthy grain. But eat what's in front of you and don't be a dick. Dr. Perlmutter Grain Brain - read this too, it's great Basically universally feel better when people come off of refined grains, sugar, and vegetable oils Thermodynamics, fat, and the human body Why calories in doesn't equal calories out Gaining weight while skiing 8 hours a day and eating pasta and me gaining weight while hiking 8 hours a day and eating a bit of rice. Too much exercise hurts weight loss a lot of the time Are things getting better in regards to this info spreading? Nina Teicholz https://twitter.com/BigFatSurprise Sam Feltham https://twitter.com/SamFeltham Aseem Malhotra https://twitter.com/DrAseemMalhotra David Unwin https://twitter.com/lowcarbGP Campbell Murdoch https://twitter.com/CampbellMurdoch Preorder the film here:http://indiegogo.com/projects/food-lies-post Film site: http://FoodLies.org Podcast site: http://Peak-Human.com Youtube: http://youtube.com/c/foodlies Follow along: http://twitter.com/FoodLiesOrg http://instagram.com/food.lies http://facebook.com/FoodLiesOrg Theme music by https://kylewardmusic.com/

For many this man needs no intro, he's the savage carnivore orthopedic surgeon who deadlifts 700 something pounds. He's lighting up Instagram and twitter these days as the unofficial president of the carnivore movement that I've just named him. Anyway, he's a great guy and shares a lot of wisdom in this episode. And no, he doesn't think everyone should be a carnivore and either do I. We need to look at all sides of nutrition and I have Denise Minger coming on soon who I highly respect and has a very opposite view of things… and it's not veganism… Ok so there's an interesting series of events unfolding right now as I'm recording and releasing this which begins 5 years ago. You're going to have to listen to the show to hear it. Please support the Food Lies film on Indiegogo - we really need you to complete post-production and the last few interviews. Watch the trailer and preorder a copy here: http://indiegogo.com/projects/food-lies-post Show notes Caught him for the film interview when he was in town for Joe Rogan's podcast Toxins are dose-dependent, yet this is not consistent with eating meat Epidemiology in nutrition is very flawed Shawn is sort of the ringleader in the carnivore world and is collecting thousands of success stories from around the world. People treating their diseases by just eating meat Younger and younger people are getting metabolic disease these days Modern carnivore diet is based on millions of years of humans eating meat. It's actually one of the only foods no humans have an intolerance for. People start it as an elimination diet - if you're having problems you take away everything but meat and the add foods back in to see how they affect you. Some people never add the foods back in… Until you experiment you don't know if you could be living much more optimally What's up with us thinking we need tons of fiber? Your body absorbs basically all of the nutrition from meat… not so much from plants What Doc Baker eats on an average day Eating should be simple and satisfying We've created a food system based on endless options and engineered flavors Human skeletons and brains shrank when we invented agriculture and started eating a larger portion of grains in our diet Can too much protein cause a blood sugar rise due to gluconeogenesis? Dealing with vegan hate Vegans are confused on how the circle of life works The vegan diet supports Monsanto and monocropping which ruins the environment. We're going to start a movement! People need to be more in touch with how food is grown Mixed farming as we've done in the past that is sustainable Gabe Brown https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfTZ0rnowcc Lab grown meat His blood work and labs after eating only meat for 18 months His experience with the medical system as an orthopedic surgeon What can we do? Preorder the film here: http://indiegogo.com/projects/food-lies-post Podcast site: http://Peak-Human.com Film site: http://FoodLies.org Youtube: http://youtube.com/c/foodlies Follow along: http://twitter.com/FoodLiesOrg http://instagram.com/food.lies http://facebook.com/FoodLiesOrg

Today we have Professor Tim Noakes and I gotta say I was so excited to interview such a highly respected and world renowned scientist and researcher. He has published more than 750 scientific books and articles. He has been cited more than 16,000 times in scientific literature and has been rated an A1 scientist for a second 5-year term. He founded the Noakes Foundation which does critical research on these new dietary approaches and helps underserved communities eat better. He's changing million of people's lives in South Africa and the world as one of the biggest voices in the low-carb high fat movement. Please listen to his story because it's very important. He was in great shape his whole life as an ultra endurance athlete and marathoner yet still developed type 2 diabetes. You can be thin and fit and still be damaging your body with a high carb diet that athletes believe is necessary. So please take a listen to his words of wisdom. Pre-order the film Food Lies here: http://indiegogo.com/projects/food-lies-post Show notes How Professor Noakes got started with his career Los Angeles played a role! Accepting the high carb dogma Lore of Running https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/112160.Lore_of_Running Waterlogged - you don't actually need a bunch of water https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/14537326-waterlogged Placebo controlled study on carbs show they have no effect on performance A new Atkins for a new you shakes up his world https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/7158682-the-new-atkins-for-a-new-you He's reversed his type 2 diabetes as of 2 months ago Challenging your beliefs Ripping out pages of the Lore of Running His father's diabetes Michael Phelps eating 12,000 calories per day Being a thin athlete and still causing damage to your body with all the carbs What is insulin resistance? Doctors not knowing if their insulin resistant or doing insulin tests I didn't see much low-fat messaging when filming at a grocery store Why should I use full-fat cream in coffee instead of skim milk? Won't I die of heart disease if I eat a bunch of saturated fat from red meat? Is cholesterol bad for you? I thought we should all be eating a bunch of heart-healthy grains? Ok but whole grains have to be good for me right? Where's the evidence that we need a bunch of fiber? Kelloggs pushed his cereal and started this message Before around 1959 it was common knowledge that carbohydrates made you fat Meat was prized for all of history Ancel Keys and the saturated fat myth Nina Teicholz The Big Fat Surprise https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/16130316-the-big-fat-surprise Sugar industry paying of scientists NY times article Unilever The tweet heard around the world - the trial of Professor Tim Noakes http://foodmed.net/the-noakes-trial/ Real Meal Revolution https://realmealrevolution.com/ Colluding dieticians Promoting real food Back to normal life The Noakes Foundation http://thenoakesfoundation.org/ Nutrition Network launched May 1 Updating Lore of Running Brain regulates athletic performance Carb burning athletes are so reliant on sugar every hour or two Fat adapted runners Real Meal Revolution free resources http://go.realmealrevolution.com/banting20lists What would happen if the whole world went LCHF? Preorder the film here: http://indiegogo.com/projects/food-lies-post Podcast site: http://Peak-Human.com Film site: http://FoodLies.org Youtube: http://youtube.com/c/foodlies Follow along: http://twitter.com/FoodLiesOrg http://instagram.com/food.lies http://facebook.com/FoodLiesOrg

Our first guest is the great Dr. Ted Naiman. Maybe you know who that is, maybe you don't…. But I'll just say, listen to the man. Some of this may be new to people who aren't total nutrition nerds - but just know it's the truth. Dr. Naiman might be the most on-point authority on how your metabolism works, how to stay lean and fit, and how to eat optimally. He has a ton of experience with thousands of patients and sees first hand how different diets affect all different kinds of people. I've learned so much from him and a lot of things clicked into place once I started really understanding his way of thinking about nutrition. So before we start, just remember that we're trying to break even on all this by crowdfunding to get the film made. Please pre-order it now on Indiegogo - just search for Food Lies or click here - Thank you! http://indiegogo.com/projects/food-lies-post Show Notes How insulin resistance develops Can't eat both high carb and high fat How a few of his patients are "pulling off" veganism with a lot of supplementation and restrictions Problems with vegan and low protein diets Your body is a battery - it runs on stored body fat. How this works. Protein sparing modified fast WHy juice cleanses and starvation is absurd and doing more harm Lean mass and fat mass Macronutrient wars and how America got obese Too much protein and gluconeogenesis is overblown Low carb and low fat both have success stories - what's the unifying theory? The amazingly simple (and free) way Ted stays ripped Preorder the film here: http://indiegogo.com/projects/food-lies-post Podcast site: http://Peak-Human.com Film site: http://FoodLies.org Youtube: http://youtube.com/c/foodlies Follow along: http://twitter.com/FoodLiesOrg http://instagram.com/food.lies http://facebook.com/FoodLiesOrg

This episode gives you a complete look at nutrition. Learn what to eat, what not to eat, and why. Learn how basically all chronic diseases come from us moving away from the foods our ancestors ate (you know, the ones free of all chronic diseases). Everything will make a lot more sense after this episode. Preorder the film here: http://indiegogo.com/projects/food-lies-post Show Notes Pat and Marife - who they are and why we are doing this Why I'm doing this film Major health myths cholesterol Saturated fat Link to studies about sat fat Vegetable oils are harmful https://chriskresser.com/how-too-much-omega-6-and-not-enough-omega-3-is-making-us-sick/ What causes clogged arteries WHO and other orgs have vegetarian members which should be a conflict of interest Meat and cancer https://chriskresser.com/the-truth-about-red-meat/ Processed meat Nitrates and nitrites https://chriskresser.com/the-nitrate-and-nitrite-myth-another-reason-not-to-fear-bacon/ Salt is not bad for us https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/its-time-to-end-the-war-on-salt/ Healthcare company reversing type 2 diabetes with low carb, high fat diets http://virtahealth.com Published study of this https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007%2Fs13300-018-0373-9 What you get from animal products that you can't get from plants Study of iron absorption of spinach "Even though some plants, such as spinach, are high in iron, the body can only absorb 1.4-7% of the iron in plants whereas it can absorb 20% of the iron in red meat" https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1745900 Influence of dietary carbohydrate and fat on LDL and HDL particle distributions. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16256003 No link between saturated fat and CVD https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20071648 https://news.osu.edu/news/2014/11/21/study-doubling-saturated-fat-in-the-diet-does-not-increase-saturated-fat-in-blood/ A total of 6,786 people have participated in these 76 studies. 6 have lasted 2 years or more to prove the low carb diet is effective https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Ucfpvs2CmKFnae9a8zTZS0Zt1g2tdYSIQBFcohfa1w0/edit Weston A. Price info https://www.westonaprice.org The great book The Vegetarian Myth http://www.lierrekeith.com Preorder the film here: http://indiegogo.com/projects/food-lies-post Film site: http://FoodLies.org Podcast site: http://peak-human.com Youtube: http://youtube.com/c/foodlies Follow along: http://twitter.com/FoodLiesOrg http://instagram.com/food.lies http://facebook.com/FoodLiesOrg

Hi Everyone, I'm Brian Sanders, and I'm making a feature length documentary called Food Lies which is about the sordid history of our dietary guidelines, the epidemic of chronic disease and obesity that followed, what the new science is telling us humans should actually be eating, and how to eat that food sustainably. As I make the film, I'm talking to a bunch of experts who have graciously lent me their time to create this podcast. Actually, you can think of this as a free audio course on nutrition - all without ads. I'm doing this to support the Food Lies film which is now crowdfunding on Indiegogo.com. Over the next 13 episodes you'll hear from some of the top experts in their field, specifically chosen to cover all areas of this complicated subject. There's so much conflicting health information out there, it's almost impossible to know who and what to believe. I quit my job and have spent the past year researching it from all sides, even veganism, and this audio series provides an overview. By the end, all the confusion around health and what we should eat should make sense. You'll learn so much more of the science behind this all, like the real deal with cholesterol and saturated fat, how to prevent cancer and diseases, if carbohydrates can be part of a healthy diet, and how ruminants like cows are essential for the health and future of the soil and environment The first part of the season includes these amazing doctors, researchers, and journalists: Professor Tim Noakes Dr. Ted Naiman Dr. Zoe Harcombe Gary Taubes Dr. Dom D'Agostino Denise Minger Dr. Shawn Baker Amy Berger Peter Ballerstedt And more to come There's so much awesome information in this audio series, I can't wait to share it with everyone. So please subscribe now wherever you get your podcasts. You're probably wondering "So who's this Brian guy?" by now. Well, first of all, I've been a filmmaker since middle school. I've also built and sold a tech company, worked as a mechanical engineer, and now, I've quit my job to devote the rest of my life to this cause. I've read dozens of books, watched dozens of films, watched hundreds of lectures and presentations, and listened to over a thousand hours of podcast episodes on this subject. I've looked at all the different approaches and figured out what the common truths are and what's BS. I now understand the unifying theory of nutrition that pulls together all sides - from Paleo to Vegan. Nobody is really talking about this - everyone is too busy being blinded by their tribe. I've also put this research into practice, and now, at age 35, I'm in the best shape of my life. My vitals and blood work are flawless and I haven't been sick in 3 years. The same goes for countless family and friends, as well as millions around the world. I'm so excited to share this all with you. Once again, the film is called Food Lies and we're crowdfunding now on Indiegogo.com. Please support us and preorder a copy the film. We also have tons of great rewards like the limited edition Real Foods challenge coin. Also don't forget to subscribe to this podcast as the episodes will be airing soon. You can find out more at peak-human.com and foodlies.org and find us on Twitter (@FoodLiesOrg) and Instagram (@food.lies). Thanks again! Preorder the film here: http://indiegogo.com/projects/food-lies-post Podcast site - http://Peak-Human.com Film site - http://FoodLies.org Youtube: http://youtube.com/c/foodlies Follow along: http://twitter.com/FoodLiesOrg http://instagram.com/food.lies http://facebook.com/FoodLiesOrg