331: Den of Iniquity

Den of Iniquity

[00:00:00] Christina:

[00:00:02] Christina: You’re listening to Overtired, a podcast about people who are tired. And, uh, d h d. I’m Christina Warren. Um, right now, this is a great, uh, episode for, uh, for, for you to join us for, because Mr. Brett Terpstra is very tired. He has not slept. Um, uh, Jeff Severance Gunzel is in Africa, so he’s, I don’t

[00:00:26] Brett: Prob probably not sleeping.

[00:00:28] Christina: probably not sleeping.

[00:00:30] Christina: And, and our guest, Aaron Dawson, you are, you are hungover, which I think is like very related to tired in many cases.

[00:00:38] Christina: So, um, I’m like the only one, I guess who, who’s not that tired, but,

[00:00:45] Brett: That’s unusual.

[00:00:46] Christina: It is unusual. Um, so anyway, th this is our show. Welcome to Overtired to everyone.

[00:00:51] Brett: You do seem perky.

[00:00:52] Christina: Yeah.

[00:00:53] Brett: Yeah, I like, I like perky. Christina.

[00:00:56] Christina: Perky. Christina is a, is definitely better than like, bitchy, like, [00:01:00] you know, like tired, hangry Christina. For sure.

[00:01:04] Brett: Yeah. So Erin, why are you hungover?

[00:01:07] How to spend 6 drink tickets

[00:01:07] Erin: Oh, I thought you’d never ask. I, um, I have a one person medal band called Genital Shame, and I, it’s not o always only me. I toured US and Canada with a full band, like less than a month ago, uh, for which I took off work and it was great. And so I played like to a backing track, uh, and afterwards, um, so I live in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, the Paris of southwest pa. Everyone knows that. And so I traveled to Morgantown where I went to college, uh, Morgantown, West Virginia. Um, and so afterwards, cuz you get drink tickets, right? Uh, Brett, you’ve played live shows.

[00:01:54] Erin: I don’t know about you Christina, but one of the great things about playing live is you get drink tickets. And so [00:02:00] that’s step zero, um, to my, my fate. Uh, and

[00:02:06] Brett: drink tickets did you get?

[00:02:09] Erin: so you get six one qualifies.

[00:02:13] Christina: That’s a lot. That’s

[00:02:14] Brett: That’s so

[00:02:15] Erin: generous. So one.

[00:02:17] Christina: these are like full pores. Like they weren’t like watering your shit down.

[00:02:22] Erin: No, no, absolutely not. One gets you a P B R or similar, two gets you pretty much everything else. For me, it’s a Nette and Coke. That’s, that’s my drink.

[00:02:33] Brett: What’s Fornet?

[00:02:35] Christina: That’s,

[00:02:35] Erin: It’s a,

[00:02:36] Christina: that’s like a whiskey.

[00:02:38] Brett: Okay.

[00:02:39] Erin: it’s not a French drink, it’s an Italian liquor. Um.

[00:02:43] Christina: Oh yeah, I’ve had Fernet. Yeah, that’s, it comes in like a special kind of bottle or whatever.

[00:02:47] Erin: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. And after the show, uh, went and saw drag, um,

[00:02:54] Brett: sure.

[00:02:54] Erin: a drag show. So, you know, gay bars. Gay bars are great because the drinks are really [00:03:00] bad and they’re really overpriced, but they’re really cold. Like I’m looking for a,

[00:03:06] Brett: You’re really selling it.

[00:03:08] Erin: yeah. Um, but drag

[00:03:11] Brett: have no other reason to go to a drag bar, show up for these overpriced but very cold drinks.

[00:03:18] Erin: And I love the smell of bleach, which I feel like most, most gay bars feature and my absolutely not researched. Uh, take on that is probably due to like after the, during and after the AIDS crisis, um, gay bars get this, um, reputation as a sort of den of not just inequity, but also for like, like disease Yes.

[00:03:47] Erin: Virus. And so if you make the senses, if the first impression is like, oh, clean, then you’re more likely to feel comfortable. That’s, I have never heard anyone say that. I do not know if that is true. [00:04:00] Um, but I love it.

[00:04:00] Christina: maybe. I mean, that is great. I was gonna say, I. I, because when I would think of like the d inequity with like the, the virus, I would think of, um, bathhouses, which incidentally there was one, like I can see it from my apartment. And, uh, that, that’s,

[00:04:15] Erin: steam rising from,

[00:04:16] Christina: Yeah. Basically, well, it, it, it is called steam works and, and no, but I, I can like lit, I can, I can literally see it from my, uh, from, from my apartment.

[00:04:24] Christina: Um, so that’s what I always think, um, is, uh, is that, but yeah, I think you might make a good point, and I have a feeling bathhouses too is like

[00:04:32] Erin: mm-hmm.

[00:04:32] Christina: cleanliness would be the, the first thing that you would wanna do in, in a place that feels like it’s quasi legal as a concept. Just being honest, like even putting the whole, like, you know, spreading the disease thing aside, it does feel weird that there’s a place that you pay a cover and can basically just like fuck random people, like in quasi public.

[00:04:57] Christina: I mean, I love it too. I’m just surprised that we [00:05:00] were, we were a country found up of Puritan. I, I am surprised that this is like a thing that has ever been legal in this country. That’s all. Like, I’m not, I’m not against it. I’m just saying that, that seem, that seems like a very European thing. Doesn’t seem like a Super American thing.

[00:05:14] Erin: Totally true. Speaking of cleanliness, the hotel I stayed in last night, I’ve never seen this before. This hotel was a little fancy. They had the TV remote in a plastic bag,

[00:05:25] Christina: Oh, yeah,

[00:05:26] Erin: makes me feel, I don’t watch hotel TV usually. Really? Um, but that makes me feel good, keeping up with the illusion of no one has ever stayed here.

[00:05:35] Erin: You are the first person to do that. We just got this out of the Amazon, a three box or whatever. It’s for you,

[00:05:43] Christina: Yeah.

[00:05:44] Brett: change the plastic bag? Because if you don’t change the plastic bag, then it’s the same as having a dirty remote.

[00:05:53] Christina: I don’t know. This was, that was the covid thing that they started doing.

[00:05:57] Brett: Okay.

[00:05:59] Erin: The idea to me [00:06:00] is the plastic bag tells you that someone has removed the remote, wiped it down with one of those things you get when you eat wings

[00:06:07] Christina: Yep.

[00:06:08] Erin: does. In fact, it wipes. I guess they’re called

[00:06:10] Brett: Towelette.

[00:06:11] Christina: A moist towelette.

[00:06:12] Erin: a very moist, but not too moist because it’s an electronic device. Yeah. And then you put it back in the bag.

[00:06:20] Erin: But you’re saying maybe they just replace the bag and they don’t worry about disinfect. I don’t know.

[00:06:26] Brett: Wait, so what? To use it, you pull it out from the bag.

[00:06:31] Erin: Correct.

[00:06:32] Brett: So you are seeing the bag as like a, A safety tab? Like a pro? Yes. Like something that was replaced be that indicates that it had been cleaned.

[00:06:44] Erin: It’s telling you a story.

[00:06:46] Brett: my head you are using the pla, the remote through a plastic bag.

[00:06:51] Christina: no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. That’s not how it works.

[00:06:54] Erin: I would

[00:06:54] Christina: could, but

[00:06:55] Erin: to be extra safe.

[00:06:57] Christina: no, cuz I’ve seen these. No, cuz the, the way [00:07:00] it’s designed is basically to, it was a covid thing and it’s like, cuz I never, I mean, it’s possible. People did it before Covid. I never saw it before.

[00:07:07] Christina: Covid. And so I think the idea is to show that they have been. To, to Erin’s Point took like the, the disinfectant towelette, like, I’m not even gonna say the one that you use for wings. I’m gonna say like, the one that, like, it’s not a makeup wipe, but it’s the one that has like some antiseptic on it. Like, it’s basically like isopropyl alcohol, like on a little pad.

[00:07:26] Christina: Like it’s, it’s the one that would come in the bag to clean your camera lens, right? Like, like it’s one of those things. And so they would use that, they would wipe over the remote and then they would have a plastic bag, which I’m sure is probably a one-time use thing that they would put it in, put tape on it, and then put it on the um, uh, you know, armoire or whatever.

[00:07:47] Christina: So that when people come in, they’re like, oh, we’ve actually gone through the steps and cleaned this room. And for me, what would make me feel better about the cleanliness wouldn’t even be the fact that like the, you know, remote is in the bag, [00:08:00] but if they went through all those steps, because if you went through all those steps, then to me it’s much more likely that you actually did like, Dust and vacuum and change the sheets and that I’m not sleeping on someone else’s like, you know, bodily fluids

[00:08:14] Brett: Yeah. Okay. Okay, so you got, you got six drink tickets and apparently it costs two tickets to get something other than shitty beer. So you start with a A something in Coke.

[00:08:30] Christina: for nut and coke.

[00:08:32] Brett: Yes. And, and then what happens?

[00:08:35] Erin: The best usage of six drink tickets to me is two cocktails. Although I learned recently a Fernet and Coke doesn’t even qualify as a cocktail, cuz a cocktail requires three things. To be a cocktail. Much like in music, you need three notes to make a chord. Anything else is just an interval. [00:09:00] You need, um, a spirit, you need a citrus component and you need a bass.

[00:09:06] Erin: Anything else is just a mixed drink.

[00:09:08] Christina: I was gonna say I did, I, I, I didn’t know the exact like thing, but I would’ve described what you got. Not as a cocktail, but as a mixed drink.

[00:09:16] Erin: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

[00:09:17] Christina: yeah.

[00:09:18] Erin: And then to me, I feel like this might say a lot about a person, like how would you spend six drink tickets? What is the biggest bang for the buck for me? And this is how I would do it, and how I did do it two mixed drinks, or two cocktails, two PBRs,

[00:09:34] Christina: Mm-hmm.

[00:09:35] Brett: Sure.

[00:09:36] Erin: right. And then to the gay bar where I get.

[00:09:39] Brett: front load. Front load with the cocktails. Chase with the P B R and then head to the gay bar.

[00:09:47] Erin: And this was my error, right? Because I mixed liquor, beer with liquor. And now I’m sicker because I went to the gay bar. You don’t really drink beer at a gay bar.

[00:09:57] Christina: No, no, no, no. You drink cocktails. I was gonna [00:10:00] say, yeah. Yeah. I mean, that, that’s when, that’s when you’re drinking, you’re, you’re really overpriced cosmopolitans or vodka cranberries or whatever, and the screwdriver. Yeah. Which are great. Or you know, whatever, uh, something to receive. For me, it’s usually like a, a cranberry component.

[00:10:16] Christina: And, um, and you find out that they, they cost $15 and then at that point, you’re so drunk, you don’t care and you order five more. Um, not that that’s ever happened to me at gay bars before. Um, and then that’s completely happened to me. Um, and, uh, and you’re just like, but I don’t care. I’m,

[00:10:33] Erin: And what’s more,

[00:10:34] Christina: drinks.

[00:10:35] Christina: Yeah,

[00:10:36] Erin: And what’s more, they had like the, um, scantily clad women with the little trays with shots on them. The shots are $5. They taste like an icicle. Oh, really?

[00:10:49] Brett: bar there, scantily clad women at the gay bar.

[00:10:53] Christina: Sure. Girl.

[00:10:54] Erin: Oh, yes.

[00:10:55] Brett: I must have grown up in a different era.

[00:10:59] Erin: It’s a [00:11:00] very diverse.

[00:11:00] Christina: I was gonna say at this point, gay bars are a lot more diverse. I, I, but, but, and, and, uh, yeah, I used to be a shooter girl. Actually, that’s the only type

[00:11:09] Brett: What does that

[00:11:10] Christina: that, that is those girls who sell the shots. Because how, what, how that works is that you pay $3 for the shots and then you can sell them for whatever you can sell them for.

[00:11:18] Christina: So it’s a game of arbitrage. So depending on, on like how hot you look and how good you are selling things, depends on how much you

[00:11:25] Brett: and how drunk the customers are.

[00:11:27] Christina: yes. Um, but, but you have to sell, but you have to buy the entire tray upfront. So like, I have to pay 50 bucks or whatever upfront, and then I have to make, and then whatever profit I make, I keep, but yeah.

[00:11:42] Christina: So.

[00:11:43] Brett: idea that is. I had no idea. This is, this is all news to me. My drink at gay bars, actually my drink at First Avenue too, like I loved, I knew a girl who was a bartender at [00:12:00] First Avenue and she gave me my drinks for free. And what I would always order was a triple tequila sunrise,

[00:12:09] Christina: Oh my God. I can’t drink a tequila at all, but, but, uh,

[00:12:13] Brett: but a tequila sunrise is like peach. I don’t even remember what else in a tequila sunrise. But it’s very fruity. It’s very fruity. So,

[00:12:23] Christina: yes, it is. Yeah, I, the, the, I do remember that. I just, I can’t, I, I cannot drink any tequila at all. Even the smell of it, I’m just like, Nope.

[00:12:32] Erin: Going back to the shooter girl arbitrage thing, like it seems like the difficulty in that for me would be when to move on from engaging with a customer. Because you wanna have a reputation of someone who’s flirty, which is like half the battle, I would assume, but it’s in your best interest to keep those interactions brief.

[00:12:54] Erin: So yeah, it’s very diplomatic. Probably kind of.

[00:12:57] Christina: No, it is, it’s a diplomatic thing. Thank you so [00:13:00] much. Here you go. You know, move on to the next person and then maybe if they, if they wanna buy more, if they wanna engage, fine. Like if sometimes, like if somebody buys a whole tray, which will happen sometimes it’ll be like, I’ll give you a hundred bucks.

[00:13:11] Christina: You know, so they’re gonna pay double or whatever. Okay. You know, st stand around and talk for a few minutes and then give them the tray and then you’d be like, I’ve gotta go get more, you know, when I’ll see you, see you in a little bit. And then like, Not, you know, um, so yeah, it, there, you’re right, there is like that level to it.

[00:13:28] Christina: But, but it totally depends. And yes, there will be people who will buy the whole tray, you know, for, for them and their, and their, their boys or for themselves or whatever. And you’re just like, Hey, I’m not the one who has to, you know, check any of that. That’s not on me. Um, yeah. Yeah. That was the only

[00:13:45] Brett: At what age should you do this?

[00:13:48] Christina: like 20 to 22.

[00:13:50] Brett: Okay.

[00:13:51] Christina: It was like a, it was like a, not a super frequent thing. It would be like a, an occasional kind of, um,

[00:13:57] Brett: But it’s the kind of job you can just walk [00:14:00] in and be like, I’m your, I’m your shock girl for the night.

[00:14:04] Christina: So my, my older sister worked in, um, uh, bars and stuff and, and she was actually a very good bartender. See, this is what I loved about it. I didn’t have to be a bartender. I just had to like look hot and be flirty and, and be good at arbitrage, which that is actually what I’m, I’m good at. Like, I was good at the sales part.

[00:14:20] Christina: Um, and, and she needed somebody to help out, basically. One of her girlfriends like probably got too drunk or something, and so she was like, literally like at her last end. And so she was like, I will call my baby sister. And I was like, I need some cash. It’s the same way that I was a booth babe once, um, which was an awful experience, but

[00:14:40] Brett: you say I need some cash or I need some hash.

[00:14:43] Christina: cash.

[00:14:43] Christina: Cash, um, I, yeah, I, I, yeah, I was gonna say, I, I don’t, I didn’t do, I didn’t do drugs or anything then. Um, and uh, yeah, but that was the exact same way that I was a booth, uh, a booth babe once was because, um, one of Kelly’s friends. Bitched out. And uh, so I had to do a thing for a [00:15:00] pharmaceutical company and I was like, the money was not worth it.

[00:15:04] Christina: And it was a lot of money. It was like, not like what the booth PAs at CES and things like that would be paid, like the pharmaceutical reps paid a lot more, but I was like, not, not into this. So I think usually you’d have to show up and probably like for to be, you do have to have a liquor license, um, to, uh, to, to be a shooter girl.

[00:15:24] Christina: But like it’s a one page form. Like it takes no time. Like it’s literally nothing. But you don’t have to mix any drinks. You’re literally just buying shots and then selling them for a higher price unless it’s a really slow night or something’s fucked. And then you could potentially have to sell them like lower.

[00:15:41] Christina: And that’s why, that’s why you’re nice to the guys who like will buy the full trays. And it is always guys who buy the full trays, like girls don’t. I mean, they will buy stuff, but they won’t, they, they won’t spend that type of money.

[00:15:52] Brett: All right. Side, side, side anecdote. I was at c e s one year and I was at a Nikon booth [00:16:00] and there were half dressed women on like a runway of sorts, and one of them stops and goes, Brett, I, it turns out, turns out I had a cousin who was a booth aid. Anyway, all right, back to the story. I feel like we haven’t reached the,

[00:16:23] Christina: The

[00:16:23] Brett: far. So far. We’re at a couple cocktails and a couple PBRs, which for me that’s, I’m, I wake up the next morning, I’m fine. So where do we go from here?

[00:16:34] Erin: I think the,

[00:16:38] Erin: the real fatal error that I made was staying up until three 30. That, I mean, it’s, it’s that easy or that simple, right? Um, and, and was like my college town or like going to grad school and everything. And so like I

[00:16:52] Brett: been to grad school, what degree do you have?

[00:16:56] Erin: Rhetoric, basically English.

[00:16:59] Brett: [00:17:00] English. You have a

[00:17:01] Erin: Professional. I have a ma Yeah. I studied music for, uh, undergrad and I, here’s, here’s the, the program, right? English colon professional writing and editing. p w e. But I wanna say something real quick about hash, about which I know nothing. I,

[00:17:20] Brett: This is such an D H D conversation.

[00:17:24] Erin: well, I wanted to say it earlier, but you

[00:17:26] Christina: No, no, no. Please, please interject.

[00:17:28] Erin: your cousin. Um, this is the stupidest thing I’m about to say. Um, I wanna get a rumor started that hash got that name as a drug because it gives you a similar dopamine rush as eating hash browns,

[00:17:44] Christina: Huh? I, you know what? I, I could believe that, I could

[00:17:48] Erin: cuz hash browns give me a lot of dopamine. Anyways, so, Went

[00:17:53] Christina: love a hash brown. If, if, if hash were more like hash browns, I’d be more into hash. I’m not gonna

[00:17:58] Erin: this is what I’m saying. [00:18:00] What do you call people who are addicted to hash

[00:18:03] Brett: why Google? Why is it called hash?

[00:18:08] Erin: But to close the loop on this, on this night out, I, I went to like the college pizza place and got some slices and then went to bed way too late. And that’s, you know,

[00:18:19] Christina: And, and now that’s when you like, discover that like you’re, you’re not actually 25 anymore. And then,

[00:18:25] Erin: Oh dear. Yeah, that is true.

[00:18:28] Christina: Yeah, that, that used to happen with me when I would go out with my interns and, and I would be like, I did it a few times and I was like still able to completely hang and they were all like 10 years younger than me and I was like, fuck yeah, I’m so cool.

[00:18:40] Christina: And then like there was like one night when it, it, it did not at all. Like I think, I think I puked in the cab, so I had to pay like the $70, like, like cleanup fee, which, you know, whatever. Like not the first time that somebody’s ever puked in a New York City cab. Like, probably not in the first time, but, but might not, you know, that day exactly.

[00:18:59] Christina: I was gonna be like, I [00:19:00] was like, you you, you pay the fee, you’re fine. Whatever. Um, and uh, better a cab than an Uber. Cuz those, those fuckers are stingy from what I understand. But um, you know, and so it was one of those scenarios and then I was just like, So hungover the next day. And I was like, oh, wow. You were, you were actually not 22 anymore.

[00:19:17] Christina: Um, which was very depressing for me to have to come to that realization. But yeah, the, the late night going to the pizza place. Now, did that help with your hangover? Cuz For me, it usually does, depending on what time I stopped drinking. Like, depending on when I stopped drinking. If I get food in my system, that usually does help with the hangover.

[00:19:35] Erin: did. Absolutely. Absolutely. Yes.

[00:19:38] Christina: good girl. I’m, I’m, I’m, I’m, I’m proud of you for that because

[00:19:41] Erin: you. Thank you.

[00:19:42] Christina: there’s

[00:19:42] Erin: easy to forget to eat

[00:19:44] Christina: it is, it is now.

[00:19:47] Erin: will do this again.

[00:19:48] Christina: Yeah. Now I have like a very strict rule that I learned again from the, uh, older sister who, um, was like a, a bad, well no, actually these were very good life lessons, but like, she taught me [00:20:00] because I, um, especially back then, like.

[00:20:03] Christina: Didn’t weigh a whole lot. And so even though I had like a pretty high tolerance, like there’s a certain point when you’re like, you’re just gonna throw up. Cuz it’s just a, it’s just a body weight issue. And so I would have a thing, like if I puked like before 12, then it’s like a puke and rally. Like you continue to drink and you continue to go.

[00:20:22] Christina: But if it’s like after 12, 12 30, then it’s like you’ve gotta call it a night. Otherwise you’re gonna have like the hangover from hell the next day.

[00:20:29] Erin: What rhymes with 12 beer? Beer before. Liquor never. Sicker. Puke. Be before 12. Wake up.

[00:20:38] Christina: Well

[00:20:40] Erin: S n l, what’d you say?

[00:20:42] Brett: elf.

[00:20:43] Christina: Wake of elf.

[00:20:44] Erin: Pick up an elf.

[00:20:45] Christina: Wake of an elf. There you go. Yeah. Yeah. No, but that, that was, uh, I, I was, I was reminding my, my sister, um, about that a few months ago about the, the puke and rally and she was like, I did not teach you that. I’m like, yes, you did. And she was like, yes, I [00:21:00] did.

[00:21:00] Erin: Yeah.

[00:21:02] Brett: Puke before 12 into darkness. You delve.

[00:21:07] Erin: Whoa.

[00:21:10] Brett: So,

[00:21:10] Erin: wait because wait. Puking four 12 is good.

[00:21:13] Christina: Yes. That’s

[00:21:13] Brett: Oh, puke before 12 into health. You, I don’t know. Fuck.

[00:21:19] Christina: puke after 12 into darkness.

[00:21:21] Erin: D.

[00:21:21] Christina: See, that would be good.

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[00:24:52] Hash Browns

[00:24:52] Brett: Yeah, I feel like, I feel like I, I got through that. Were you worried? Were you worried about me?

[00:24:58] Christina: That was a little bit, but no, I [00:25:00] think, I think you nailed it. And, uh, thank you Factor

[00:25:02] Brett: Yeah. Yeah. We, we, we, we appreciate sponsorships are lean right now,

[00:25:09] Christina: sponsorships are real lean right now. See, we, we need, if we need, like, honestly, like if, if the sponsors were just willing to offer us drink tickets, like I’d be get some pvs, you know, two mixed drinks. Uh, but I do have to say, I think that you did like nail like the, the balance of how to get the most bang for your buck, like getting like two, two beers.

[00:25:30] Christina: Um, or like in my case, I would try to see like, would they, well, I guess this is the question. Would they give you a white claw? Like could you get a white claw in, in, in exchange for P B R.

[00:25:40] Erin: I think so. I think

[00:25:41] Christina: Okay. Cuz that’s what I would do. I would do, I would do like two white claws, um, or, or another sorts of like, you know, like alcoholic seltzer and, and then, um, uh, two mixed drinks or, or cocktails

[00:25:54] Erin: That is a, that’s a great way to divvy it up, just to close the loop on addictive [00:26:00] substances and otherwise, why is it called hash? Did you figure that out? Brett?

[00:26:04] Brett: I did not. I looked up, I, I googled I duck dot, go. Uh, Why is it called hash? And I got a bunch of stuff about hashtags and then one about about why like breakfast. Breakfast is called hash.

[00:26:22] Christina: Yeah, I’m, I’m, I’m trying to figure this out right now. Um, to see like the, uh, cuz it. I think that, okay. This is what I think that it is. It’s, it’s technically, it’s hashish and, and it comes from, um, uh, north India, Nepal have a long social tradition in the production of Hashish, um, uh, known as Charo.

[00:26:43] Christina: And then the, the term Hashish was used in a pamphlet published in Cairo 1123 Ce, accusing the Zari Muslims of being Hashish eaters. And then that led to some other things. I think that it was just, I think it [00:27:00] just has to be because it’s a, it’s the shorter version. I think it’s, I think that’s boring, but I think that’s what it’s,

[00:27:07] Erin: Is that an opioid thing or a a opium flower thing? Like what? I don’t even know what it is. Sorry. This is not what this podcast is it?

[00:27:15] Brett: is is weed. That’s, there’s an extraction process that turns it into like a concentrated, uh, Yeah, I don’t know that much about hash,

[00:27:27] Christina: Yeah, I was gonna say, I’m like, yeah, I was gonna say, I was like looking into this whole thing and, uh, yeah. Okay. I, let me just, actually, let me Google. Why is Hashish

[00:27:39] Brett: This is great radio.

[00:27:41] Christina: It is great Radio. Um, I did find a short history that we, I we’re gonna link it in the show notes. You can read it. I’m not gonna read it on the air, but you, you, but you, but you can read it in the show notes.

[00:27:52] Christina: But there’s a sh there is in fact a short history sponsored by Kinon, so you know it’s gonna be good[00:28:00]

[00:28:00] Erin: Where’s everyone on this podcast? Stand on the great hash brown versus home fries debate. I’m kidding. I don’t really wanna talk about that. I mean, obviously

[00:28:08] Christina: I’m sorry, I’m, I’m sorry. It’s hash browns and I think that anybody who says home fries, i i, you, you’re kicked out of the table. You’re not allowed to

[00:28:14] Brett: fries? What? What does home fries mean? Is this.

[00:28:19] Christina: you know, you know, they’re like the, you know, home fries. They’re like little

[00:28:21] Brett: I don’t, I’m, I’m from Minnesota and I’ve never heard of home fries. I’ve heard of hot dish. I know what a casserole is.

[00:28:29] Christina: no, no. Ho Home fries are like the, like the potato, they’re like the fries that ha still have like the skins on the back and aren’t really fries. They’re like the potato kind of bits things. And then they put them in the skillet.

[00:28:40] Erin: You dice a

[00:28:41] Brett: people eat them for breakfast

[00:28:42] Christina: Yeah. Yeah.

[00:28:43] Erin: sure.

[00:28:44] Brett: Okay. Yeah. I can’t, I can’t weigh in on this because I’ve only ever had hash browns for breakfast.

[00:28:53] Christina: Yeah, I, um, yeah, I definitely, so yeah, it’s more like the diced potato stuff, but they still have the skins on them. We put ’em in a skillet, [00:29:00] usually with like oil and, and some seasoning. I don’t like them, and in fact, when I get them at a breakfast place, I’m usually disappointed. I’m like, do I have, can I have another potato option?

[00:29:11] Christina: Because to me it’s my least favorite potato preparation. Um,

[00:29:15] Brett: your own hash browns? Have you ever made hash browns?

[00:29:18] Christina: No.

[00:29:19] Erin: It’s difficult. You have to, um, get a mandoline and treat your potatoes that way, and then get cheese cloth, rinse, uh, squeeze all

[00:29:28] Brett: that’s, that’s the tr like you can just use a kitchen towel, but you like put ’em all in there. You roll it up and then you twist it from both ends. That learning, that changed my hash brown game, now I can make good hash browns

[00:29:42] Christina: My dad makes good hash browns. My dad also makes home fries because they’re easier to make and I’m like, I don’t want home fries. Um, my dad does make good hash browns though. Um, because he’ll do, um, uh, like what is, what is one of the, what’s the something in hash, like meal? Like there’s some [00:30:00] sort of, um, meat that goes with it.

[00:30:04] Brett: a breakfast skillet.

[00:30:06] Christina: no, but the, it’s some, it’s called something in hash. Um, um, but uh,

[00:30:13] Erin: and mash something’s in hash.

[00:30:17] Christina: but because cuz I think he uses some sort of like, uh, even like, I don’t know if like there’s a canned meat in, in involved or, or, or what, but um, But my dad, my dad makes that pretty well, and um, cuz he’s a very good cook. But yeah, I’m not into home fries. I will say this, my favorite of all of them, if I have a real option at a breakfast place, which is rare to get this option, unfortunately, but if I can get like a, a, a ta tater tot, like that’s, I love a tater tot

[00:30:48] Erin: To me that is taught food, that is toddler food. And I’m not above eating food below my age class, but breakfast, nah. But I respect,[00:31:00]

[00:31:00] Christina: yeah, no, I have the palette of a five-year-old, so it actually completely like, matches me. But like, no, I do, um, I, I’m from the south where like, I’m literally from like the city where, uh, waffle House is, was born Atlanta. And so like, Yeah, like I, I, I love, I love like a, a good like hash brown, like, especially like a scattered, like, like, you know, you, you order your, your hash browns a certain way at Waffle House.

[00:31:24] Christina: Um, I was there earlier this month for, uh, for a conference and we were waiting in line to get into a club that was where the official after party for this event was supposed to be. And it was a ridiculous line. And then they were charging a cover even for people who we’d paid like pretty expensive.

[00:31:40] Christina: Like the conference tickets were pretty expensive. And we were in line for a while. Some of my friends were already inside, and I was like, how is it? And they’re like, it’s pretty shitty. So I was like, we’re not going into this. And then I was trying to rally some people to go to a strip club, but that wasn’t working out.

[00:31:54] Christina: And so long story short, we wound up at Waffle House and it was delightful. And I wasn’t even drunk, which [00:32:00] was the most impressive part, honestly.

[00:32:02] Erin: Yeah, my,

[00:32:03] Brett: wa Waffle House when your friends won’t go to the strip club.

[00:32:06] Christina: Yeah.

[00:32:08] Erin: my plan to demean your nominally tech-based podcast with potato discourse and

[00:32:16] Christina: Are you, are you

[00:32:16] Erin: discourse is working

[00:32:18] Christina: No, I, we, we love it. Like look, we, we, we were a Taylor Swift podcast for like four years, so

[00:32:24] Erin: Oh dear,

[00:32:24] Christina: is fine.

[00:32:25] Brett: I, I like that tagline too. Nominally. Nominally. Attack podcast.

[00:32:30] Christina: I like, I really like that actually, that’s, I think that, that we need to like, put on the website

[00:32:34] Erin: yours.

[00:32:36] We should talk about tech

[00:32:36] Brett: Um, j can I interject a little bit of tech?

[00:32:39] Christina: please

[00:32:40] Brett: So, okay. I needed to test my applications on the Beta os, um, and so, This time I was not gonna make the