245: TV Party

Overtired 245

Christina: [00:00:00] [00:00:00]You’re listening to overtired. I’m Christina Warren. He’s Brett Terpstra. Brett, how are you?

[00:00:09] Brett: [00:00:09] I am. I am good at for those, uh, for those tuning in for the first time we have a wild ride in store for you, uh, for our regular listeners. This is just going to be, you know, another week, but we’re winging it. We’re winging it.

[00:00:26] Christina: [00:00:26] We’re winging it. No, you have a lot of lists of, of suffers to talk about. We’re not totally winging it. Like we’ve got stuff that we need to talk about. Um, the Emmy’s, uh, nominations just came out and.

[00:00:36] Brett: [00:00:36] still happening?

[00:00:38] Christina: [00:00:38] It is still happening?

[00:00:39] and they’re going to be in person again, I’m guessing. And, but the Emmy nominations came out yesterday, but which actually fits in quite nicely because you have a bunch of TV shows on your list, but first, uh, let’s get a breadth mental health corner update.

[00:00:53] Brett: [00:00:53] This depression has really stuck around like it’s it’s. This is, it’s [00:01:00] been over a week now, which is unusual for me in my more recent history. Like it used to like two weeks was just expected, but lately with like almost zero manic days and then just light depressions going on for more than a week is kind of a, it’s kind of a unusual.

[00:01:18]Christina: [00:01:18] Yeah, that sucks. I’m really sorry to hear that. So, and, and it’s. For a week though, hasn’t it? Cause when we talked last week, it seemed like it had been a week. So

[00:01:27] Brett: [00:01:27] it is. No, I don’t think it had been a whole week last week. I think, let me do some math in my head. I think I started feeling shitty around. Yeah. Yeah, right around the six or seven. So, so I think last time we talked, I was just starting to feel depressed. And now, now I’m like a seasoned professional.

[00:01:51] I’ve been doing this for over a week and it’s weird. Like I’m. I’m not down. Like, I, I don’t hate myself. [00:02:00] The world doesn’t look dark. I’m actually pretty excited about a lot of things. And like, I, I wake up every morning with like ideas and, and like, I’ll make forward motion on work projects in my sleep, because I’ll be like super productive in my dream.

[00:02:17] And then the day will start and all of my motivation just gets sucked out. And I just, I just stare at the screen and I mean, I’m getting shit done. Like I w it’s it’s, it’s typical ADHD thing where if there’s a deadline and there’s a little bit of pressure, I’m gold, like I’ll get there. No problem. Uh, as far as like anything else, especially creative pursuits, I’m just kind of I’m listless.

[00:02:44] Christina: [00:02:44] years listless. Yeah. No, I feel that. That’s so true about the ADHD thing. And it’s hard for me sometimes to describe that the people who aren’t ADHD, because I’m like, no, I need a deadline, even if it’s arbitrary, because that’s the only way I can get this done. Like I had a meeting with someone. A [00:03:00] couple of weeks ago. And they were in the past side, I’d had a project that I worked on with them, with an Inn. Um, and I Totally.

[00:03:06] understand why they were frustrated because, um, we wouldn’t start on time. And the reason we wouldn’t start on time is because I knew I could push and they were okay with pushing and like, they didn’t ever tell me, like, we need to do this.

[00:03:17] And then I went and I started working on a similar project with another team and I was like, Hey, look, I had my stuff together. Like I hit that deadline. They’re like, Well, why was that different? I was like, Because there was a very clear deadline and I know that this is a you problem and not a me problem, but you have to like, hold me accountable because if I know that I can push, I will like, even if I’m ready, it’s just one of those things. it’s like, I don’t have the motivation to ensure that it’s there. If I know that I can wiggle, and I know that that’s like a selfish and a totally shitty and like awful

[00:03:51] Brett: [00:03:51] but it’s just it’s reality. Like people, people ask me, like, I work with someone who’s ADHD, how do I get them to do their job? And [00:04:00] I’m like, just set deadline. You can tell them I’m setting this deadline just to help you. It can be arbitrary.

[00:04:07] Christina: [00:04:07] Totally.

[00:04:08] Brett: [00:04:08] be totally transparent. You don’t have to fake emergencies or anything.

[00:04:11] You just have to say, I need this by this time. Can you get it done? And it will get done.

[00:04:19] Christina: [00:04:19] Right, right. Yeah. That’s what I need. I’m one of, it’s one of those things where I’m just like, yeah, no, I need this too. I need to have this, this thing, you know? Um, because if it’s just up in the air, it’s never going to be the priority.

[00:04:31] Brett: [00:04:31] Yes. I feel like anyone, anyone entering a management position should get like, just a brief how to work with ADHD employees. Cause it’s, it’s not, it’s not terribly difficult. You just have to understand that things are a little bit different.

[00:04:47]Christina: [00:04:47] Yeah. Yeah, it’s totally one of those things, so, okay. So you’re a little depressed, um, but you’re getting, at least you’re able to get your, some of your work stuff done. Like even I’m not the creative pursuits. Cause I know that that was something you were worried about when you [00:05:00] took the new job, uh, in the back of your mind, you were worried about like, Okay.

[00:05:03] well what happens when I get oppressed or what happens if I’m manic?

[00:05:06] Like how am I going to be able to function. So I’m really heartened to hear that at least like you’re getting stuff done. Maybe you’re not as productive as you would want to be, but you’re able to get stuffed.

[00:05:16] Brett: [00:05:16] Yeah. Yeah, I have, uh, our big, um, so our first big event since I started is the red bull. Machine learning lab. It’s like a hackathon almost for, uh, working with 50 years of F1 racing data, uh, red bull racing team. I should, I know I’ve said it before, but, um, and, and so I’m still in charge of writing. Writing the lab.

[00:05:48] And as of this moment, I still have not been able to run it. Um, I just, they just refactored. Do you, have you ever worked with tariffs?

[00:05:57] Christina: [00:05:57] I sure have.

[00:05:59] Brett: [00:05:59] They [00:06:00] just refactored all of the Terraform scripts that I spent hours wrestling with and they’re supposed to work now. So I gave it a test run and it didn’t work. So right after this recording, I will be back on the phone with the Terraform experts, trying to figure out what, what is, what is up.

[00:06:19] Christina: [00:06:19] No, that’s always the challenge. Like I liked Terraform align for our listeners. If they’re not familiar, Terraform is a language, basically. It’s kind of like Ansible, but it’s, it’s more language centric. Whereas Ansible is more like for, I guess, ops people, Terraform is more for like developers, but the idea is that rather than having to. Whatever syntax you would need for your specific API APIs or cloud service or whatever. You just use Terra forms, syntax, and you are able to write, you know, like scripts and other things to automate how to do a bunch of different tasks. And so the advantage of it is that it can work with a bunch of different things.

[00:06:53] So you learn the Terraform language rather than learning like the domain specific language That your, your cloud [00:07:00] solution or product or whatever might use.

[00:07:02] Brett: [00:07:02] That is a way better explanation than I could give at this point to me. Form is a very powerful thing that never works.

[00:07:10] Christina: [00:07:10] Yeah. And the problem with it is that the way that it works, like if it works well, is that you have like these kind of like API APIs written to reflect one another. So if you’re using Azure, um, or, uh, insert Oracle in this case, like you would have like Oracle’s normal API thing and. Does Oracle have a domain specific language?

[00:07:29] Like with Azure, we have PowerShell, but we also have some other stuff we have armed templates is one of the things that we really use. Um, you can use that with PowerShell, but arm templates are like our, our Jason thing. Does Oracle have like a native solution for writing stuff?

[00:07:43] Brett: [00:07:43] I don’t know the answer to that question.

[00:07:45] Christina: [00:07:45] Okay. Well, in the case of Azure, then.

[00:07:48]There are ways that you can work with the Azure API using arm templates. And now there’s a new thing called bicep, which is actually pretty great. I love it right. That good. Um, and, and that [00:08:00] actually uses a slightly different, uh, domain specific languages. It’s like an enhanced version. And it’s kind of like the future of arm templates.

[00:08:06] Like arm templates will still exist, but, but, but bicep is, um, a little bit, uh, uh, has some, um, better features is a little more extensible. Um, uh, ultimately it’s all going to be like, Program down to arm templates, but it makes it easier than having to know some of the nuances of, of arm templates. But how Terraform works is that like the API is, have kind of like a one-to-one kind of ratio.

[00:08:29] So it was like, okay, this is how you would do something in arm templates. This is how you do it in Terraform. And ideally the API is need to have like need to reflect one another so that when I’m writing in Terraform is going to actually do the thing that it would need to do in, in an arm template sometimes.

[00:08:45] That does not work. And like we have teams of people who work very closely with Terraform, like who their whole job is to make sure that the, the arm shit, like it works with the Terraform language. But sometimes it doesn’t because there are [00:09:00] just enough different nuances that when that translation happens, which the user to be clear should never have to think about.

[00:09:06] They should just be thinking I’m writing the script and that this is going to execute the way I need it to. But for whatever reason, It, you know, the, the API translation doesn’t work and, and you, you wind up in pain?

[00:09:18] Brett: [00:09:18] Can I tell you how I got distracted just now.

[00:09:21] Christina: [00:09:21] Yes.

[00:09:22] Brett: [00:09:22] So the arm bicep thing. That was funny. And my brain immediately thought, what if you made a super strict version of the mustache, like handlebars templating language and called it Hitler.

[00:09:35]Christina: [00:09:35] Oh my God. Well,

[00:09:37] Brett: [00:09:37] I wrote, I wrote this whole template in Hitler.

[00:09:40]Christina: [00:09:40] I mean, that’s one way to guarantee canceling. It’s hilarious, but that’s one way to guarantee cancellation. I would say I would, I would say that rather than calling it Hitler, the appropriate name would be chaplain.

[00:09:52] Brett: [00:09:52] I suppose, but that would be like a comedic take.

[00:09:55]Christina: [00:09:55] I agree. I agree.

[00:09:57] Brett: [00:09:57] Could we, can we, can we, can we like split the [00:10:00] difference in call it stolen? Like that’s a big mustache right there.

[00:10:05] Christina: [00:10:05] That’s true. And actually that would fit better than the yeah. Cause both the solid and Hitler don’t have handlebars.

[00:10:10] Brett: [00:10:10] Right. That’s the thing is like handlebars was a variation on, on mustache, but you could make a different ver like a slimmer

[00:10:19] Christina: [00:10:19] Okay. I

[00:10:20] Brett: [00:10:20] templating language.

[00:10:21] Christina: [00:10:21] yeah. No. Now I get what you’re saying. Okay. Yeah, no, that’s funny. That works. But.

[00:10:25]Brett: [00:10:25] Okay.

[00:10:26] Christina: [00:10:26] Okay. I mean, I’m laughing. Um, I wouldn’t be opposed to it, but I also think that that would be just like asking for people to be outraged for no reason.

[00:10:35] Brett: [00:10:35] I am not going to ask our listeners to write in about this because I know full well, it’s a bad idea. I don’t need to be told.

[00:10:43] Christina: [00:10:43] Yeah, don’t, don’t write in about it. We know it’s bad. Um, also as much as we encourage iTunes reviews or apple podcast reviews, please don’t mention Hitler in our podcast reviews. If I can like make one request

[00:10:55] Brett: [00:10:55] I was totally into this podcast until they started talking about Hitler.

[00:11:00] [00:10:59] Christina: [00:10:59] I was going to say, cause something tells me that that like, won’t do well for us. I mean, maybe it will, I don’t know. I’m not going to tell you what to do. It’s your life, whatever.

[00:11:07] Brett: [00:11:07] Um, so how are you mentally?

[00:11:10] Christina: [00:11:10] Um, I’m okay. I’ve still, I’ve been kind of depressed honestly for like the last year, but I’m, I’m doing like I’m functional. It’s just kind of like a, always there thing. It’s like not debilitating. It’s just kind of like ha thing.

[00:11:24] Brett: [00:11:24] Yeah. Yeah, I get it. I get that. What’s the languishing that, that was the, that was the fun word that came out of the pandemic.

[00:11:34] Christina: [00:11:34] Yeah. Languishing, which I think is. Very accurate. Definitely feels like that. I am, I am excited. Uh, I guess in like 10 days, I’m going to, um, and we’ll need to figure out like our old figure out recording time is fine, but I’m going to know, and actually I’m leaving on a Friday. I’ll be back on like a Monday.

[00:11:51] So we find, but I’m going to Colorado to see the band Guster at a red rock Samford theater. Look, I know you’re laughing. [00:12:00] I love Gusto.

[00:12:00] Brett: [00:12:00] No, I am not criticizing your, your musical tastes at all. Amused that you’re young enough to actually want to go to concerts at all. Like, I feel like I might show up for like K Flay or like black rebel motorcycle club, but it would take a lot for me to actually want to go to a concert. Anyway,

[00:12:25] Christina: [00:12:25] get, no,

[00:12:26] Brett: [00:12:26] you can continue your story.

[00:12:27] I didn’t mean to.

[00:12:28] Christina: [00:12:28] No, it’s okay. I don’t know if it’s a youth thing, actually, the guy, my friend that I’m going with. Uh, he’s your age. So actually I think he’s older than you. So, um,

[00:12:37] Brett: [00:12:37] 60.

[00:12:38] Christina: [00:12:38] no, he’s like 45.

[00:12:40] Brett: [00:12:40] Oh, that is my age.

[00:12:42] Christina: [00:12:42] Yeah. So, um, he’s, uh, We’re going to, they’re both excited, but I love live music. I know that it’s not for everybody, but for me, that was the last thing that I did before the world ended.

[00:12:53] I was at a dashboard confessional concert, which is hysterical. Um, but yeah, no I’m going, I’ve never been to red rock [00:13:00] before and I bet I’ve seen. Yeah.

[00:13:01] Brett: [00:13:01] Wait red rock, New Mexico.

[00:13:03] Christina: [00:13:03] No red rock amphitheater in, um, in Colorado is like just outside of Denver. So, but it’s like this huge like venue, apparently. It’s amazing. I’ve heard so many recordings from, from red rocks and, um, but I’ve never been there.

[00:13:14] Um, so I’m going to Guster, um, in like 10 days and then. Um, in September, I’m actually going back. I’m going there again, but that’s, I’m, I’m going for death cab for cutie that I’m like, I’m so pumped about, like I’m so hype about seeing death cab at, at red rocks. Like that’s going to be amazing. So.

[00:13:34] Brett: [00:13:34] Okay. Man, I just, I just, I can’t fathom wanting to go to a library.

[00:13:39]Christina: [00:13:39] I don’t know. I mean, and it’s it’s, well, it always varies like what the things are like, this is an outdoor venue, so I’ve, haven’t ever been here, but I’m guessing that it’s similar to the Hollywood bowl, um, which is, I think smaller than, than red rocks, but it’s kind of a similar thing where you have like, this really.

[00:13:54] Outdoor amphitheater. And, and you have like some, uh, you know, uh, science seating areas. And sometimes like it’s [00:14:00] kind of general stuff. I mean, there might be some grassy areas, but it’s not like everybody’s standing. Um, which is nice, right? Like, cause I’ve definitely been to live shows and, and like, um, I mean, it’s been a while, but I’ve been to like, uh, like festivals where, you know, you’re basically standing in the crowd and, and that, um, The older, I get the less, like I’m totally down to stand inside a venue.

[00:14:21] Like I’m totally fine. Without a stand inside of club, I’m less inclined to like, like if I were to do Coachella again, I would definitely need to like clamp. I would definitely need to like, try to do like the rich person Coachella, even though I’m not a rich person, I would need to like dig into my funds.

[00:14:38] Try to do like the pseudo rich person Coachella, because I don’t think that I could do like the, the masses Coachella that I did when I was in college. Cause I used to do Bonnaroo and I used to go Chella and college and that, I don’t think I could do that again.

[00:14:51] Brett: [00:14:51] I just realized why I no longer like going to live shows. I was, I was thinking I used to love live music. Why, what [00:15:00] was different then? It’s because I stopped drinking and doing drugs, like getting through a live show. I’m like crowds. I hate crowds, but I can do it. Yeah. If I have, if I’m a little buzzed, like crowds can be fun.

[00:15:12] I can actually enjoy other people if you get enough booze in me. But without it, man, that’s torture for me.

[00:15:18]Christina: [00:15:18] No, that’s that’s um, that actually makes complete sense because if I were in a situation where I could not drink. Ever at like a live show. Not that I have to have it, but it is one of those nice things, right? Like that would not be, and that would definitely make it much less fun. Also. There are a lot of people who are in many cases, inebriated around you.

[00:15:40] Um,

[00:15:41] Brett: [00:15:41] which makes it even less fun to be sober.

[00:15:43] Christina: [00:15:43] 100%. Well, I it’s funny. Cause I used to have the inverse. I used to have a rule. Well, it’s kind of the same, but I used to have a rule. Um, again, this is when I was in college where I was. There was a certain point when I was like, I’m I refuse to go to all ages shows because [00:16:00] I like the, the teens, like the under age people.

[00:16:03] And I’m a total hypocrite, cause I was only a couple of years removed from that myself. But I was like, I, I cannot be around this many and drunk like excitable people. Like I, I need booze and sometimes they wouldn’t even sell it. Like sometimes they would, but sometimes they witnessed. You can’t take this, you know, like on like the floor and I’m like, whoa, I can’t deal with this many, you know, like screaming and yelling, like excited people.

[00:16:29] If I, don’t have alcohol in my system.

[00:16:32] Brett: [00:16:32] I, uh, I grew up, uh, well, I should say I went to high school in, uh, in a small town in Minnesota where I once, once again live, but, uh, about half hour drive down the river. There’s a city called lacrosse, Wisconsin. And they have this venue called the warehouse and the warehouse has always been an all ages.

[00:16:53] No, no alcohol, no drugs venue. Like they sell water and energy drinks and that’s it. But I got to [00:17:00] say like some of my best concert experiences happen. Like totally sober in a group of all. I mean, not everyone showed up sober, but you couldn’t get drunk there. And like, man, those kids had fun. If they still have fun, that place has been around for like 30 years now.

[00:17:19] And it is like, it’s where kids go when they like, have it keeps kids off the street, let’s put it that way. I love that place.

[00:17:27] Christina: [00:17:27] no. Yeah. That’s awesome. That’s awesome. Yeah. I, um, I didn’t grow up in a small town and we didn’t have this kind of local things. Like we had to go to the city. We had to go to It To go to the clubs and the music venues and stuff like in, in the suburb where I was like, sometimes you would have bigger bands come to like some of like, I guess the music venues or whatever, but you didn’t have smaller places where people could go.

[00:17:49] So like you always for the clubs and stuff, we always had to go into the city always, but that wasn’t far away, you know? Um, but it’s nice that there are places like that, you know, for the [00:18:00] youth, people that fun, I think.

[00:18:01] Brett: [00:18:01] and like first avenue in Minneapolis has a seventh street entry. That was always all ages shows. It’s like, I don’t know how much attraction it would have for me. Now, but I know that having places like that to go when it was not legal for me to drink yet was pretty. That was awesome.

[00:18:23] Christina: [00:18:23] Yeah.

[00:18:23] Brett: [00:18:23] sorry.

[00:18:23] I didn’t, I, I’m not your statement about not wanting to be at all. Ages. Clubs just reminded me how much I personally loved all ages clubs. I’m not like I’m not upset with your statement.

[00:18:36] Christina: [00:18:36] no. Well here, but there’s a difference. Like I think that, and again, like when you’re that age, when you’re under age, I think having an all ages thing is really important. I think when you’re like 21 or 22, it’s less important

[00:18:48] Brett: [00:18:48] Agreed.

[00:18:49] Christina: [00:18:49] that that’s, that’s my only

[00:18:50] Brett: [00:18:50] and, and like I was saying, I, I really apparently hate going to concerts, sober, sober these days. So I, I hear what you’re saying.

[00:18:59] Christina: [00:18:59] Yeah. So, yeah, [00:19:00] I think we’re kind of saying, but yeah, but definitely at that age, like if we’d had the all ages experiences, I mean, there were some bands, like when I, when I stopped saved the day when I was like in 11th grade, um, some of the places were definitely all ages clubs, although in most cases, Or I was certainly using fake IDs.

[00:19:18] Um, and it was like 18 and up. So it was, you know, not quite all ages, but certainly not like as strict as like a 21 and up thing. Um, and I did, I didn’t pass for 21. All those. Sometimes you could talk your way through that, but I had a fake ID that said I was, I was 18. Um, so like that, that word.

[00:19:41]Brett: [00:19:41] Yeah, they used to, uh, they used to accept, you could get into first avenue with a license with the corner clipped off. Like they wouldn’t, they didn’t care that you would just tell them that, like you hadn’t renewed it yet and they would overlook it. You know how, [00:20:00] like, when you, when you renew your license, they clip the corner of your old license and it’s not supposed to be valid anymore.

[00:20:05] So we never even had to get paid licenses. We would just borrow or like

[00:20:10] Christina: [00:20:10] You would just get somebody who you would just get somebody who looks enough like you.

[00:20:13] Brett: [00:20:13] Yeah. I mean, it depends on who’s at the door that

[00:20:17] Christina: [00:20:17] Well, that that’s always what it is. It always depends on who’s at the door because there were plenty of times when I didn’t even ha there were, there were times when I would go places where I wouldn’t even use my fake, I would use my real one. Um, and at one point, my fake was me putting white out on my real one.

[00:20:34] And that worked for years.

[00:20:35] Brett: [00:20:35] Okay.

[00:20:36] Christina: [00:20:36] Um, I was actually drunk in Daytona, always a good time. Uh, I was at a

[00:20:43] Brett: [00:20:43] the sounds like the name of a, a bad, a hangover sequel, maybe

[00:20:49] Christina: [00:20:49] It kind of does junk and Daytona. So I’m 20 years old. I’m at a fraternity formal. So it’s already just trash, you know, uh, cause it’s fraternity formal in Daytona. Like that was our [00:21:00] destination, like real classy and, um, After the formal, like we all decided to go out and, and continue drinking. Um, like they weren’t supposed to have alcohol like active in, in the ballroom, but of course we all pregame in our hotels and had other stuff.

[00:21:14] And so, and, and I was 20, but my boyfriend was 21 and, um, One of his frat brothers wanted to get a tattoo and he agreed to pay for mine because he wanted someone to go with them. So we went and I got a tattoo. Um, and then my boyfriend got mad because that meant we couldn’t have sex in the hot tub. And I was like, I wasn’t gonna Have sex with you in the hot tub because that’s gross.

[00:21:33] And I don’t know what has been in this hotel, hot tub.

[00:21:37] Brett: [00:21:37] you ever had sex in a.

[00:21:39]Christina: [00:21:39] no.

[00:21:40] Brett: [00:21:40] is. It’s horrible. Everything about it is horrible.

[00:21:43] Christina: [00:21:43] It feels like, especially as a woman, it feels like it would just be painful So, no, I haven’t, I haven’t.

[00:21:48] Brett: [00:21:48] everybody. Believe me.

[00:21:49] Christina: [00:21:49] I mean, I haven’t water and I don’t like it. So I, this was always like one of those things. I was like, I’m not doing this, but anyway, we went and we got the tattoo and we were already a little [00:22:00] drunk, so they shouldn’t have tattooed us, but mine turned out great.

[00:22:03] Um, uh, the frat guys who paid for mine was crooked, which was typical for that guy. And then we decided to go kind of bar to bar. And so we were walking. We went to one place and this all drunk. I am like, I’m getting jello shots and I’m like missing my mouth. And it’s like, the jello was like hitting like the bar and I’m having to like scoop it up and take them.

[00:22:23] She looks at my ID. She clearly sees that it’s fake. She scratches off the whiteout still serves me, but then pass me the ID. It’s looking like a date or realize that we’re walking. I think at one point we went to, like, we like took a Ferris wheel. We were like at some sort of, I don’t even know. All I know is we got pulled over by the cops for drunk walking.

[00:22:42] They they’re the cops because we’re, we’re white and it’s Daytona. They’re like, just get a cap. So they called us a cab and we took a cab to take us to more bars, to continue to get more drunk. So we were too intoxicated to walk, but completely fine for us to just continue [00:23:00] our way along to two different bars.

[00:23:02] Um, and, uh, then we wound up, uh, I don’t even know that. I mean, I woke up in my bed, I think. Oh, no, that was, that was, that was a different trip where, uh, our friends passed out on a bench outside that that happened at a different location. But in this case, I think everybody made it to bed, uh, correctly, but Yeah.

[00:23:21] Um, that’s, that’s my, that’s how my, my fake ID did worked for years. The white out was removed because the girl in Daytona like saw it and clearly it, and she clearly saw that I was like shit faced, but continued serving me. So props to her on it.

[00:23:37] Brett: [00:23:37] You have such great white girl stories.

[00:23:39] Christina: [00:23:39] I really do. I should like write a book about them basic bitch for life. The basic bitch clinicals.

[00:23:46] Brett: [00:23:46] we have, uh, we have a new iTunes review. You want to.

[00:23:49] Christina: [00:23:49] I do.

[00:23:50] Brett: [00:23:50] It’s short and sweet. It’s from Chris knows Chris, Chris snow, Chris, Chris snow. Uh, it it’s labeled one of my favorites. Five [00:24:00] stars. You’re both wonderful. And one of the highlights of my podcast feed quickly made it onto my must listen list.

[00:24:07] Christina: [00:24:07] Aw.

[00:24:07] Brett: [00:24:07] That’s how we, that’s how we do it.

[00:24:09] And that’s how we do it. And thanks. Thanks Chris.

[00:24:12] Christina: [00:24:12] Thank you, Chris.

[00:24:13] Now I appreciate that. Um, and we’ve got a sponsor this week, too.

[00:24:17] Brett: [00:24:17] We do. And I’m super excited. I have been saying for years that these people, these people should sponsor me. Um, because I have been a huge proponent to the extent that I use my affiliate link when I talk about them and I do not actually have to pay for the service for another two years, I have so many.

[00:24:40]Signups from people that like loved it and paid for it. And then I got credit for it and yeah, no. Right. That sounded weird. I should say I would 100% be paying for this if I had to. But so this week’s sponsor is SaneBox, [00:25:00] which is, uh, the, the crux of my entire system for handling email. Um, inbox zero is a thing of the past.

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[00:26:39] And if I get an email in my inbox, but I just, I, I just can’t deal with it right now, but I don’t want the unread message in my inbox. I just move it into that folder. And three hours later, it’ll put it back in. My inbox has an unread message. So it’s like, it’s a way to just snooze. A message [00:27:00] for a given period of time.

[00:27:01] Uh, and, and the nice thing about that, like, I can do that with, uh, with my spouse. Email on my phone. And, uh, and you can do that with the spark client on Mac, as well as others. But this gives you one way to snooze messages that works across all your devices, all of your email accounts, and, uh, makes it really easy to work into something like mail mate, which is what I prefer using for my email.

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[00:28:02]Christina: [00:28:02] That’s awesome. Um, I I’ve been reading, like you’ve been telling me about this for years. I think I’m actually gonna sign up because. It’s. Yeah. I, I I’ve always been turned off by the inbox zero thing, mostly just cause I can’t commit to that, but that sounds really, really good.

[00:28:18] Brett: [00:28:18] So I have this whole, I have this whole system where I use, I don’t actually use any real email folders. I use smart folders and basically AICPA message has been read and is older than three. Just disappears from my mailbox and like, meanwhile, it’s all still in my actual inbox or in my same later folder.

[00:28:41] But I don’t see anything. So if I don’t act on a message within three days, I’ll lose it, which makes me either respond to turn it into a, like an Omni focused task or just delete it, you know, like I have to deal with it then, or, or I lose it, which [00:29:00] has basically my inbox never has more than maybe five unread messages.

[00:29:05]Christina: [00:29:05] See, that’s great. Cause I ended up missing stuff because mine just becomes overwhelming and, and then I just end up not going there. So I’m okay. Um, I’m going to do the free trial and try that.

[00:29:17] Brett: [00:29:17] You’re going to love it. Everybody loves it. It’s awesome. So I was, I was telling you a while ago that I was getting back into cyber punk.

[00:29:27] Christina: [00:29:27] Yeah.

[00:29:28] Brett: [00:29:28] And I went through like all of the early William Gibson novels and everything, and then got around to snow crash. And I don’t remember if you’ve ever read snow crash.

[00:29:40]It is like I had forgotten how funny Stephenson is. I had forgotten like the, all of the tongue. And I mean, I remembered that the main characters name is Hiro protagonist, which should have been a clue that this was all tongue in cheek.

[00:29:56] Christina: [00:29:56] Yeah.

[00:29:57] Brett: [00:29:57] But, oh my God, this book is so [00:30:00] good. I’m so in love with, and I’m remembering, like, I remember all the parts of it and I had forgotten, I had forgotten how much I remembered about this book, but it is just a delight to go back through it now.

[00:30:11] Christina: [00:30:11] Yeah. I think that like, that’s, it’s considered like one of like the quintessential. Like snow crash, like cyber

[00:30:17] Brett: [00:30:17] Yeah.

[00:30:17] Christina: [00:30:17] books, right? Like it’s basically like, like the quintessential one. Um, yeah, I think, uh, grant, when we first started dating, um, he would read like parts of it to me and, and then I ended up reading it and no, it’s, it’s a great book.

[00:30:28] I should go back and revisit it.

[00:30:30]Brett: [00:30:30] I’m doing, uh, I’m doing fall or Dodge and hell, like that’s the full title, fall or Dodge in hell. Um, that’s up next. And I have read that one before, but I honestly can’t remember at all what it’s about. Uh, but I’m definitely going to go on a Neal Stephenson kick for awhile here.

[00:30:46]Christina: [00:30:46] Yeah. And there’s, uh, there wasn’t, there really isn’t there a TV show or is there going to be a TV show or movie or something?

[00:30:53] Brett: [00:30:53] I, I do remember seeing something about snow crash, um, [00:31:00] at some point in the last few years, but I don’t remember what it was or if anything ever actually came of it, it would make such a good, uh, it would make a great mini-series.

[00:31:12]Christina: [00:31:12] Yeah, I agree. Um, it, it really would. Yeah. I’m trying to figure out like, if it, if it’s happened or not, because yeah. Apparently HBO, max did option something, but I’m not sure if it’s come out or not.

[00:31:26] Brett: [00:31:26] of optioning things. Have you ever read Lizzy story by Stephen King?

[00:31:31]Christina: [00:31:31] I don’t think that I have.

[00:31:33] Brett: [00:31:33] It is, in my opinion, I like I was turned onto it by someone whose literary prowess, I respect. And like, I wasn’t a big Stephen King fan. Like I read a couple of books, they were scary. Uh, he’s a clever writer, whatever. Um, but then I read Lissy story and honestly, I think it.

[00:31:52] Best like literary achievement, that stories crazy good. And apple TV plus [00:32:00] turned it into a mini series and, and it is, he’s a true Testament to both Stephen King’s writing and the production team for the show that it looks almost exactly like what I saw in my head when I read it.

[00:32:17]Christina: [00:32:17] I love that. Okay. So, so that’s exciting. Okay. So I’m going to read it.

[00:32:21] and then watch it. Um, and, and if you say that you think is like the best Stephen King thing, even if you haven’t historically been a fan, like he’s a great writer. Like I think even if people don’t like his stuff, like he’s a great writer.

[00:32:34] Like his book on writing, I think is the. Best book about writing that I’ve ever read. Um, and, and he’s just a fantastic writer. So if you say that this is, um, his best work, then I’m definitely going to get this.

[00:32:50] Brett: [00:32:50] I could not put it down. It was, it’s such a good book.

[00:32:54]Christina: [00:32:54] Um, I’m going to get it. Is there an audible version?

[00:32:57] Brett: [00:32:57] Yeah.

[00:32:58]Christina: [00:32:58] Perfect.

[00:32:59] Brett: [00:32:59] at least I’m [00:33:00] pretty sure there is. I actually read the paperbacks, so I can’t be certain, but I’m pretty.

[00:33:05] Christina: [00:33:05] I’m sure that there is, I mean, Stephen King, but, uh, I’ll figure it out. Um, even if, even if there’s not like I, cause I do sometimes like to switch between both reading and listening, if I can. Um, like that’s my favorite way of getting through. So, um, we also have kind of, kind of speaking of apple TV, that’s a good segue.

[00:33:24] Uh, Ted lasso is on the line. Um, are you watching that again?

[00:33:28] Brett: [00:33:28] It’s N it’s no, the new season starts like three days after my birthday, which is Monday. So like next Friday, I think the new season of Ted lasso comes and I am terribly excited about it.

[00:33:43] Christina: [00:33:43] I’m I am so excited about it. And actually yesterday, uh, as we were recording this on a, on a Wednesday and on Tuesday, the Emmy nominations came out and it.