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[00:00:00] Brett: [00:00:00] You’re listening to overtired. Welcome. I’m Brett Terpstra. I’m here with Christina Warren. It’s good to be back. How are you, Christina?

[00:00:07] Christina: [00:00:07] I’m I’m doing pretty good. Uh, it’s early for me. So I, and I just took my Dexedrine. So you’re probably gonna hear me get more awake as the show goes, but I’m fine. Uh, how are you before we, we address, uh, the fact that we haven’t talked together in a couple of weeks, how are you doing

[00:00:28] Brett: [00:00:28] Well, so here’s the thing. The thing of it is I

[00:00:33] Christina: [00:00:33] what was happened? Was.

[00:00:34] Brett: [00:00:34] mm, my mother-in-law. My ex-mother-in-law used to always say the thing of it is. And it, it, it, it, it drove me nuts. It’s fine. She’s not my mother-in-law anymore. Um, anyway, uh, so I’ve got some depression going on, which is bad enough on its own. And then yesterday I gave myself food poisoning, not once, but twice and not like [00:01:00] real food poisoning.

[00:01:01] Like, I’m pretty sure it was all in my head. Like, I, I ate something that tasted off. Like, it was definitely off like spoiled, but like, I don’t eat meat. Like I don’t get like food poisoning from like legit food poisoning, but it, it, it tasted off in my body revolted against it. And I started puking and then the taste was stuck in my mouth.

[00:01:27] And like, every time I would taste it, I would wretched again.

[00:01:32] Christina: [00:01:32] oh God.

[00:01:33] Brett: [00:01:33] I thought, so it happened with an egg sandwich in the morning.

[00:01:38] Christina: [00:01:38] Okay. No. Okay. You get legit food poisoning from eggs. Okay.

[00:01:41] Brett: [00:01:41] right. Here’s the thing, here’s the thing, the thing of it is, is that I think, I thought it was the egg, but the egg didn’t smell off. Like when I cooked it, it, it like, everything seemed fine and I’ve never had an egg that was bad and didn’t at least look a little bit bad. [00:02:00] So, but I was like, okay, so, so the, the egg was bad and I got through it in the morning and I, uh, I had my lunch and then like, I’m seeing a nutritionist now.

[00:02:11] And part of my diet is I’m actually allowed to eat like bread. So I was going to enjoy a piece of toast in the afternoon. And I got halfway through the piece of toast and realized it was what it was, where that taste was coming from.

[00:02:26] Christina: [00:02:26] Oh no. So the bread was like moldy or bad or whatever.

[00:02:29] Brett: [00:02:29] I guess I looked at it, it looked fine, but yeah, definitely had this rancid, weird indescribable flavor to it that it did not have, you know, two days before.

[00:02:42] And, uh, and yeah, why I did it again, and that was right before we were supposed to record yesterday. And so I just, I said, we’re gonna, we’re gonna wait a day and I won’t eat any more bread and I haven’t, I have not eaten anymore bread at all. [00:03:00]

[00:03:00]Christina: [00:03:00] Good. I’m glad. I, I, uh, I I’m really glad, uh, I hope you threw the bread that you pap away.

[00:03:06] Brett: [00:03:06] Yeah, I

[00:03:07] Christina: [00:03:07] good.

[00:03:08]Brett: [00:03:08] I did. It took, it took twice. I really like bread.

[00:03:13] Christina: [00:03:13] I like bread too. You can buy more bread. Uh, clearly the bread that you had though was bad. Like you can get new bread.

[00:03:21] Brett: [00:03:21] Yeah. Um, so, uh, last week you, uh, you, you, you did, you did your own thing, kinda. It was an episode with two Christina’s was the way I described it to people.

[00:03:34] Christina: [00:03:34] it was pretty great though.

[00:03:35] Brett: [00:03:35] Yeah. You seem to have fun. I’ll be honest. I couldn’t listen to it. Like the beauty of descript is that I can just search for the word edit and anywhere that someone was like, oh, you should edit here.

[00:03:48] I can just find that without having to go through like who’s fuckable and a boy band. Like I can just skip all of that. Honestly. Like I caught a little bit of it. I searched for my [00:04:00] own name, so I could hear where you bad mouth. Me. Brett’s a little bitch and all of this,

[00:04:04] Christina: [00:04:04] I love this.

[00:04:05] Brett: [00:04:05] Brett breads to gen X for this.

[00:04:07] And I heard that and I’m like, you know, that’s true. I, I actually don’t have to, I don’t have to sit through this. I can edit this with one hand.

[00:04:17] Christina: [00:04:17] I, so until you said this, I completely forgot that. Like I, I called you a little bitch and said you was using next to that. And now I’m now I’m thinking back, I’m like fair.

[00:04:26]Brett: [00:04:26] Well, so, and, and, and people can chime in on this, but I, I have oral surgery and a couple of weeks, well, actually it’s next Friday. So I’ll be able to record next week, but then I will probably not be, uh, up to talking the week after. So I was going to have a, I was going to see if I actually wanted to come back again.

[00:04:49] If people like overall the general response to that episode was people were thrown at first. Like when you did [00:05:00] the immediate deep dive into like nineties boy bands, people were thrown, but they came around and they enjoyed it by the end. And they really liked the dynamic between you two. So.

[00:05:13]Christina: [00:05:13] Yeah, I

[00:05:14] Brett: [00:05:14] feel like it’s going to replace me entirely, but I feel like it’s a nice, it’s a nice to have two Christina’s once in a while people, people can live with that,

[00:05:23] Christina: [00:05:23] I think so. It’s nice palate cleanser. No, it doesn’t replace two at all. Uh, there has been talk on the Twitters. People are like, she and I should have a spinoff podcast. And,

[00:05:33] Brett: [00:05:33] I could see.

[00:05:34] Christina: [00:05:34] and that I actually, like, I like that idea a lot, but maybe, maybe we do like another thing together. We could see if it’s like, we test it out again and see.

[00:05:43] like, if that’s gonna happen.

[00:05:44] Cause I wasn’t intending to go as deep as we, when we, we had started, even before we started recording, we were kind of talking a lot and, and we just kinda went right into and I was like, oh, this is going to be totally different. But this was really fun.

[00:05:57]Brett: [00:05:57] Yeah. [00:06:00] So how’s work going.

[00:06:02] Christina: [00:06:02] So work is work as good. Our fiscal year just started, which, um, is, is interesting. Cause it’s like, there’s a lot of planning, a lot of other stuff that happens. So in also a lot of people are taking vacation. So it’s one of those things where like the next couple of months are, um, in some ways going to be at least for some of my, some of the stuff that I do slower.

[00:06:26] And then in some things more busy, I don’t know. It, it all sort of depends. Um, but, uh, I, uh, I was part of the windows 11 launch, which was kind of cool,

[00:06:34]Brett: [00:06:34] Yeah. So

[00:06:36] Christina: [00:06:36] Very cool.

[00:06:37] Brett: [00:06:37] yeah, I, I haven’t, I don’t follow windows much, so I haven’t dug into that, but, uh, but you seem pretty excited about that.

[00:06:45] Christina: [00:06:45] I mean, look, I can say this like more candidly on this podcast, cause like less people listened to it, then not less people, but like less.

[00:06:54] Brett: [00:06:54] What you mean is fewer people. I’m sorry, I

[00:06:58] Christina: [00:06:58] You’re well, yeah. [00:07:00] Okay. Fuck off. Hey, but I was also, I was trying to be like, it was like, well, cause we have a lot of listeners, but it’s, it’s different listener base. So it’s like, I don’t know how many of my coworkers, like, listen, you know, if that makes sense, which makes it somewhat easier. Um, not that I’m saying anything that like get me in trouble or whatever.

[00:07:16] I don’t think. But, um, when is 11 is, uh, like the visual overhaul is really good. Like there were some things like that. They definitely stole from macro S and they stole well how’s that?

[00:07:32] Brett: [00:07:32] fair enough.

[00:07:33] Christina: [00:07:33] Okay.

[00:07:33] Well, other than good, like I was trying to like do the grammar thing since I, I got the lesson fewer wrong. Um, so that’s kind of cool.

[00:07:42] There’s also some cool stuff happening on the developer side. That was the thing I was more involved with. I was involved with the developer event. Kind of getting to do a deep dive on some of the changes coming to some of the ways that you can develop for both web apps and native apps in the store and in games and shit like that.

[00:07:57] So there was, there was some cool things. [00:08:00] Um, I, uh, I, I’m not, you know, somebody who usually follows windows either, but I’m pretty excited about it when it launches in the fall. So That that was cool. It was also, I’m not going to lie. Like it was cool to have a role, even though it was small as part of like a major operating system launch.

[00:08:17] That was kind of cool.

[00:08:17] Brett: [00:08:17] That is cool. I, uh, so it’s, it’s our we’re we’re planning for our fiscal year to over the, uh, over at the Oracle. And, uh, so I think I’ve mentioned before the Oracle is sponsoring red bull racing.

[00:08:33]Christina: [00:08:33] Oh, wow.

[00:08:35] Brett: [00:08:35] So part of our planning is like my, my team, the dev team is, is basically forefront on the red bull, uh, kind of partnership.

[00:08:48] And we have to come up with ways that Oracle can tie into, uh, like formula one racing. And like, it’s been [00:09:00] fun. We’ve been finding like we’re doing a lot of machine learning stuff and, uh, and kind of race prediction, uh, efficiency, uh, hands-on learning labs for developers to kind of play around with F1, historical data and everything.

[00:09:16] Um, but red bull wants like a year. They want like a plan for like a year what’s going to happen for the next year. How are you going to make this interesting. And that feels like a lot of pressure. All of this.

[00:09:28]Christina: [00:09:28] Yeah.

[00:09:29] Brett: [00:09:29] can do one thing at a time. Take it as it comes, come up with interesting like things in the moment, but a year plan seems like crazy.

[00:09:37] Christina: [00:09:37] Yeah, that seems like a lot. Uh, they, they want, I, I think that the term is they, they want like marketing moments, movements, whatever, so that they can position their stuff. But Yeah,

[00:09:48] I think the good news is, I think I’m not a hundred percent positive, but I feel like this is one of those things where you guys can like come up with like really like broad strokes.

[00:09:58] And then if this stuff [00:10:00] changes, like they’re not going to know or care, like as long as it, as long as it’s still.

[00:10:05] Brett: [00:10:05] yeah, yeah. I, yeah, it’ll be fun. They’re doing a corny video. We’re doing, uh, uh, machine learning lab. And they’re doing this like intro video about how, uh, their whole team of like, uh, efficiency, planners, and pit crew, and everything could just take the week off because the developers are going to do all the work for them.

[00:10:28]Christina: [00:10:28] Oh, well, corporate humor. I, I loved the Ash. Hate it.

[00:10:35] Brett: [00:10:35] And they, uh, so I was helping my, my co-writer Aaron get a packaged together because we’re going to start doing some videos like YouTube, uh, just dev REL stuff. And, uh, and so I helped her put together like a video package proposal to get some hardware for her. And I figured she would be the on-camera personality and I would [00:11:00] handle editing.

[00:11:01] But then my manager said, oh, no, it would be better to have two on-camera personalities. And you guys could like take turns and do some back and forth then. And so now I’m getting a whole slew of a camera and lighting and green screens and everything. Um, I’m a little bit like I’m not shy. Uh, I, I, uh, I do get self-conscious, um, but like I speak it like Mac world and max doc and.

[00:11:32]I, I do

[00:11:33] Christina: [00:11:33] You’re on a podcast right now.

[00:11:35] Brett: [00:11:35] well, yeah, talking like I have a face for radio. That’s not a problem. I don’t get self-conscious about like my voice or anything. Um, I do, I hate my teeth. Like I hate seeing my teeth and oral. Surgery’s not going to help that. Um, well, because it’s all the back teeth, but anyway, uh, it’s going to be interesting.

[00:11:57] I can do it. I I’m, I’m fine with [00:12:00] it. I just, uh, I don’t know. I prefer to be the behind the scenes, the voice in the background.

[00:12:08] Christina: [00:12:08] What, Um, what camera are they going to get you?

[00:12:10] Brett: [00:12:10] Um, I picked out, uh, Panasonic something seven. Uh, I went through a bunch of reviews and that was the one that, uh, for, uh, for a reefer model was kind of within budget and highly rated for video.

[00:12:28] Christina: [00:12:28] Nice. Yeah, I think I know what model you’re talking about or like, yeah, I’m pretty sure it’s like a or

[00:12:33] Brett: [00:12:33] Yeah, I wanted to say G seven, but then I felt like that was a pop song, like a G seven.

[00:12:39]Christina: [00:12:39] Uh, I not sure. I don’t know about that, but I, uh, uh, yeah, so, so there’s that. And then are you going to get a, um, yeah, that’s a, that’s a pretty good, um, camera, um, uh, for, for, from what I remember, cause when I had to go through and buy a bunch of video stuff last year, when the pandemic hit, I wound up getting a Sony, a [00:13:00] 6,400.

[00:13:00] Um, but uh, I’d looked at the, the Panasonic. I looked at some other things I wound up going with the Sony, but that was probably, it was probably overkill. Um,

[00:13:11] Brett: [00:13:11] How much is that on? Cause I haven’t, I haven’t made the purchase yet. I just got approved for my aunt’s about the same price, really. Um, I just got approved for my corporate Amex card,

[00:13:23] Christina: [00:13:23] nice.

[00:13:24] Brett: [00:13:24] but I won’t have that for another three weeks. So I still have time to.

[00:13:27]Christina: [00:13:27] I don’t know what it would be like on refurb. I think it was, I think it’s like a thousand dollars MSRP, which is overkill for, for unlimited 900 Yeah. So,

[00:13:37] Brett: [00:13:37] or, or what kind of lens did you get with it?

[00:13:40] Christina: [00:13:40] oh, I just have like the Stocklands

[00:13:42] Brett: [00:13:42] well, it’s 900 for the camera only with a 50 millimeter lens. Then it’s 1200. That’s that’s good. That gets more up there.

[00:13:51] Christina: [00:13:51] yeah. So

[00:13:51] the one that I’ve got is I’m looking at what BNH has. I have the 16 to 50 millimeter lens and it’s like a thousand dollars from BNH. So [00:14:00] that was about what I spent, I got from BNH and then, um, and that was honestly, I knew that was overkill when I bought it. Um, I think though, but it was hard, there was a weird thing where it was hard to get cameras at the time.

[00:14:11] I don’t even know if, and I’m not sure if the G seven was out yet. It might’ve been, but it was one of those things where, you know, I, I just, I was like going to get like, uh, like, like I was looking at like some 10 80 P cameras, which would have been fine cause I don’t broadcast in 4k, but then I was like, well, maybe I want 4k.

[00:14:27] I don’t know. Um, and then there were some like other models and then one of my colleagues ended up getting it and I was like, fuck it. I’ll just, I’ll just get this one. Um, and then I use the cam link, uh, as, as my interface, which is great.

[00:14:41] Brett: [00:14:41] we’re getting that.

[00:14:42] Christina: [00:14:42] If you can’t get the cabling for some reason, the HD 60, um, uh, S is, uh, Like, uh, they’re streaming, um, dongle, um, the, the, the plus version, the 60 S plus, which is only sold at best buy will also [00:15:00] work as a can, like it has the same hardware, so it’ll, it’ll have the same thing.

[00:15:04] So for some reason you can’t get a cabling 4k, it’s like $50 more, but you can get the, the 60 S plus, um, from Logato and it as that. And I know this because I was able to get a cam link, but I first got the 60 S plus and then was able to score a cam like another way. So this is why I know these things. So,

[00:15:23] Brett: [00:15:23] Yeah. I had fun talking with Ashley about video equipment. That was last time she was on systematic. That was a major focus of the show.

[00:15:31] Christina: [00:15:31] Yeah. I was going to say she would know even more than like I would in that, in that case, but yeah, but, uh,

[00:15:37] Brett: [00:15:37] I couldn’t afford the light. She recommended those were, there were like a hundred dollars per light and then like a thousand dollars for the set.

[00:15:46] Christina: [00:15:46] Yeah. no, I think you can get like a key light or, um, like, uh, even like a ring light or something. We’ll be, we’ll be good.

[00:15:52] Brett: [00:15:52] W we ordered, we, our, our package includes two led panel lights and a ring light, which I think will be perfectly [00:16:00] sufficient for what we’re going to do.

[00:16:01] Christina: [00:16:01] 100%, 100%. So, um, let’s talk about Brett’s mental health. You talked about it a little bit, but you said you’ve been depressed. What’s been going on

[00:16:11] Brett: [00:16:11] No I’m doing that. Uh, I don’t know, have the manic episodes for, for a while now. And I just get a, I just get a week or so of being low energy. I’m not, it’s not depression. Like the world sucks. I don’t want to be here kind of depression. It’s just like, I just don’t feel like doing anything and I’m low energy and it’s really difficult for me to pay attention to stuff.

[00:16:42] And it’ll last, I don’t know, three to five days, and then I’ll be fine again and rocking at life. But at the moment, a little bit, uh, we’ll call it under the emotional weather.

[00:16:57]Christina: [00:16:57] I’m very sorry to hear that. And I [00:17:00] hope that it, it, um, fades quickly.

[00:17:02] Brett: [00:17:02] Hey, thanks. Yeah, it’ll be fine. It’s going to be fine.

[00:17:06] Christina: [00:17:06] It’s going fine.

[00:17:07] Brett: [00:17:07] Um, yeah, so my parents made the front page of the local newspaper

[00:17:13] Christina: [00:17:13] Nice. In a good way or bad

[00:17:15] Brett: [00:17:15] well, it depends on how you look at it. Um, they’re, they’re part of this Bible translation program

[00:17:23] Christina: [00:17:23] Okay.

[00:17:24] Brett: [00:17:24] where they’re, they’re translating the Bible and I don’t know which version they’re working from, but into this language called sun.

[00:17:35] And I can’t remember what it stands for, but it’s for blind and deaf

[00:17:39] Christina: [00:17:39] Oh, okay.

[00:17:41] Brett: [00:17:41] And so I guess if you’re like a Christian and you think that your interpretation of the Bible should be translated for, you know, uh, a population who. Would benefit from it in some way then I guess [00:18:00] what they’re doing is good.

[00:18:01] But for me personally, like I don’t like their interpretation of the Bible to begin with. And I feel like they take a lot of liberties with understanding the actual intent of 2000 year old text. And I don’t love the idea of them, uh, being in charge of someone else’s understanding and interpretation of said text.

[00:18:29] So it’s a weird spot for me, cause my mom’s like super proud of it. Like it’s been, uh, her, her kind of like focus for over a year now. And so I have to just kind of keep my mouth shut about it.

[00:18:44] Christina: [00:18:44] Yeah. Yeah.

[00:18:45] I think so. I think that, I think that makes sense to think that, um, yeah, I’m looking this up now. This is like the symbolic universal notation, a new way to reach the deaf and blind. Yeah. so it’s, um, like I, I hear what you’re saying and I [00:19:00] totally really respect the whole, like, you don’t agree with their interpretation and don’t necessarily want them in charge of that stuff.

[00:19:08] I think that’s really fair, but I also think. Ideally, you know, this isn’t the only translator that will be available of something like this, for people who are, who are both deaf, deaf, and blind. Um, I, and I’m not sure if this specific language is like specific from like this Christian point of view or if it’s something else. I don’t think that it is, um, uh, oh, no, actually it seems like it is

[00:19:34] Brett: [00:19:34] it very much is. And, and because it’s such a limited set of characters, like they, it’s very broad strokes like

[00:19:44] Christina: [00:19:44] right. Okay. I’m, I’m looking at this now. Yeah. I’m reading about this now. So it’s, it’s, it’s symbolic universal notation, and it’s a program that.

[00:19:50] brings a scripture to the illiterate deaf, as well as the deaf blind using a symbolic system of writing the literate, deaf who are not educated in sign language, as well as the deaf blind can read [00:20:00] God’s word for themselves. I mean, okay.

[00:20:03] Brett: [00:20:03] do they need it? Is the question.

[00:20:06] Christina: [00:20:06] I don’t know. I think. I’m in a weird position here. And the one hand, like I actually am very much in favor of translating works of, of all religions into things that, that the blind and the deaf whatever can, can consume. Um, maybe not this approach per se. Uh, like I would prefer it to be like from, in, in a format that is not tied to a particular ideology, right.

[00:20:30] Like, you know, like, but like I’m very much in favor of, uh, braille Bibles or, or, or Kranz or, or, um, you know, uh, Torres or whatever. Like I think that that’s really important to be able to translate and have available famous texts, whatever we may think of them, uh, for, for people who consume things differently. I, actually think that’s really important. Uh, I don’t personally love that maybe this is coming at it from this specific place, [00:21:00] but I also want to acknowledge. This is a nice thing, and it’s a good thing that they’re doing. And, and that, you know, like, I don’t know, I, I don’t feel like the world is worse off because there’s more education out there.

[00:21:15] Even if it’s not education that like we agree with.

[00:21:19] Brett: [00:21:19] find fundamentalist education, very traumatic for people. And I just, I think like I’m fine with literary works and, and education, but, uh,

[00:21:32] Christina: [00:21:32] Oh yes. As you can. I guess education is the wrong word. I guess. I’m not, I hear you on that traumatic thing. I guess. I don’t, I don’t feel like the world is worse off. If there are more books

[00:21:44] Brett: [00:21:44] Right? No, and I CA I can agree with that there. Yeah.

[00:21:48] Christina: [00:21:48] it’s I, I get it.

[00:21:49] Brett: [00:21:49] If we were talking about, if we’re talking about a braille translation of something like a king James version that could be viewed as historical literature, [00:22:00] I would have a slightly different feelings about it. Then translating like one person’s distilling of the NIV into what like 52 symbols to represent like all of the ideas and it, it, it gets ugly.

[00:22:17] We don’t have to keep talking about this. It was,

[00:22:20] Christina: [00:22:20] no, I, you just kind of brought it up and I’m sorry. I didn’t mean to go on a tangent on it, but yeah, I, I,

[00:22:24] Brett: [00:22:24] I totally brought it up.

[00:22:25] Christina: [00:22:25] know, but, uh, but, but I, but I totally like, I understand like your hesitancy there. I mean, like on the one, but I mean, I, the only thing I’ll say is like, that sounds like a lot of work, so I’m sure they’re very proud of what they’ve been doing, even if it’s not something that like you are.

[00:22:40] I agree with

[00:22:42] Brett: [00:22:42] Yes, and I will be nice about it. I will smile and nod. Uh, my mom even asked me for help one week to see if her translation of very innocuous verse was like legit. And [00:23:00] I was just like, yeah, no, it seems like you captured the idea of this. Uh, just, I don’t remember what it was. It was like something from numbers or Deuteronomy or some inconsequential book anyway.

[00:23:15] Uh,

[00:23:16] Christina: [00:23:16] the, the last thing I’m going to ask, and then I swear we can move on, but because this is going to kill me, if I don’t otherwise, do they at least work with experts in language? Like for people who work with, with, so they don’t like work with people who work with the deaf blind or, or with, or with the

[00:23:35]Brett: [00:23:35] no.

[00:23:37] No, Nor nor with people who actually understand Bible translation in general, it’s very much, here’s some words make them make sense using these characters.

[00:23:48]Christina: [00:23:48] Okay. All right.

[00:23:50] Brett: [00:23:50] Um, we should, uh, we should, we should talk about this week sponsor,

[00:23:54] Christina: [00:23:54] We should,

[00:23:55] Brett: [00:23:55] which I, there is no segue here. Like

[00:23:58] Christina: [00:23:58] there is no segway here,

[00:23:59] Brett: [00:23:59] not be done.

[00:24:00] [00:24:00] Christina: [00:24:00] well, I was going to try and be like, you know, um, look, it’s, it’s a better segue than after you talked about food poisoning. I mean,

[00:24:08] Brett: [00:24:08] It is. He definitely a yes. This week sponsor is, has nothing to do with food poisoning or Bible translation.

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[00:27:39]Christina: [00:27:39] Thank you very much.

[00:27:41] Brett: [00:27:41] So I, uh, I, I told you at the beginning of this episode that I didn’t have anything to talk about and you’re going to have to drive the conversation, but I keep, I keep wanting to talk about stupid stuff.

[00:27:52] Um,

[00:27:53] Christina: [00:27:53] I have. I have you go first because I, but I do have a stupid thing I,

[00:27:57] want to talk about, but I want to hear you first.

[00:27:58] Brett: [00:27:58] so I, my, [00:28:00] my, my, uh, Synology died, but had that happened last time we talked.

[00:28:05] Christina: [00:28:05] It had not, it had not,

[00:28:07] Brett: [00:28:07] Um, so I have like 12 terabytes of storage on a Synology and it started resetting. Apparently this is a thing that happens where the reset switch goes faulty. So like every day I would, I would log into it and the web interface would tell me that I had reset it.

[00:28:28] And I had to re-install all of my packages. And fortunately, like, my data was always there, but like my, my get server, my Plex server, all of that just kept disappearing.

[00:28:39] Christina: [00:28:39] Right.

[00:28:40] Brett: [00:28:40] And, uh, so I went to, I went through their support and I was two months out of warranty, but they were like, don’t worry about it. I got approval.

[00:28:51] Here’s an RMA send. I got my new unit, uh, two days ago and everything is back up and running [00:29:00] and I didn’t lose any data. And I’ve heard from one other person that they had a rough time with Synology support and being just like 90 days out of warranty. But I had a great experience. I’m very happy with Synology right now.

[00:29:16] Christina: [00:29:16] Yeah.

[00:29:17] I’m actually really happy to hear that. So I haven’t had that issue. Um, although I have dealt with them for the support in the past, and I’ve had really good experience and we’ve got, we have a couple of units and one of ours is a few years old, but one of them is like, at this point it’s like eight or nine years old.

[00:29:31] I think it’s like a 20 it’s like, it’s like the 18, 13 plus or something. And so it’s, it’s old and, and we definitely need to replace it, but it’s still chugging along, like it’s far out of warranty. Um, but it’s, it’s been great. I mean, but, um, it’s interesting. You bring this up because people at Western design.

[00:29:49] Brett: [00:29:49] Yeah.

[00:29:49] Christina: [00:29:49] Has had all the tax and, and people have been like asking, like, what are things I should use? And, and I had said, Q nap, you know, might be an option for some people. Um, I, I’ve used their [00:30:00] some before. I’ve never owned it, but I have used their stuff before, but I’ve, I’ve owned Synology stuff, uh, since like 2012.

[00:30:06] And so, um, I, uh, I can give them like a a personal, good recommendation, but I really like hearing that you’re two months out of warranty and they still set you up. Like, that’s really great. Cause I don’t even know if they’re still in business, but you remember Drobo.

[00:30:23] Brett: [00:30:23] I, I have a Drobo here. If anyone wants, uh, uh, UN uh, NAS, that will almost definitely fail on you.

[00:30:30] Christina: [00:30:30] Yeah. I was going to say mine failed on me. I was out of warranty and I think their warranty was fairly limited and, and they were like shitty about It and they were, and not to be whatever. But, and I, I tried to never pull this. I really do my best to never pull like the, do you know who I am card, but, but, but at the same time, like, and you’re in a similar situation because you have a lot of followers and people who buy these things, follow [00:31:00] you, that if you are a company that knows anything, like at the very least, like you should, you know, I don’t know, look into who your customer is before.

[00:31:10] You’re just like completely unhelpful. And I didn’t drag them online. I didn’t do that. Um, I could have, but I didn’t, you know, I just didn’t want to kind of go in that way. And I lost data, uh, that was,

[00:31:21] Brett: [00:31:21] five terabytes, including a couple years’ worth of like photos that are just now completely missing from my, my life. This is before like everything was on iCloud

[00:31:32] Christina: [00:31:32] Yeah, right? No. yeah.

[00:31:34] My mine, mine was years and years ago and I didn’t lose that much stuff, but it broken it in was like their support was terrible. And I was just like, fuck this. But, um, the fact that mine, like the software still works. It’s good, but I’m, I’m actually really like, uh, in begin to use a Simpson’s fake word to hear that they are, uh, they took care of you.

[00:31:55] Like that’s actually really great.

[00:31:57] Brett: [00:31:57] Yeah. Yeah. Like a [00:32:00] significant amount of data. And if anyone wants my recommendation Synology plus Seagate drives are going to it. You’ll do fine. Like, I feel very secure with that. I wish it were more affordable for me to have an offsite backup of 12 terabytes of data.

[00:32:16] Christina: [00:32:16] too, me too. But unfortunately the data hoarder people and people like, us have ruined that for them consumer backup services or whatever.

[00:32:24] Brett: [00:32:24] like, so Backblaze does this thing where they’ll send you, uh, uh, uh, like I think they actually send out Synology units. I’m not sure, but basically you pay $3,000 as a deposit. And then for like $500 a month, you rent this large hard drive with as much storage as you need. You put all of your data on it and you mail it back to them, which at which point you get your three grand back, but you still pay the, the monthly rent on it.

[00:32:56] Christina: [00:32:56] The $500 a month on

[00:32:58] Brett: [00:32:58] They put it into [00:33:00] your Backblaze backup account, and then you have access to the data at the time you backed it up. But, uh, from that point on, you need to be able to continuously back up with back ways to keep it up to date. But if you do have 12 terabytes of retroactive data, you want to backup with like, Backblaze, they do offer, uh, an option.

[00:33:25] I won’t call it affordable because you could buy a bunch of new hard drives for them amount of

[00:33:31] Christina: [00:33:31] Yes. They also, they also let you, if you want to, you can use, like, I think it’s like their, their B2 system, um, where you can back up to that. And, and then, yeah.

[00:33:39] like you said, if you need to get that much data, it, I didn’t know that they had like the deposit thing, but it would make sense that they would like just have you mail it out rather than upload it.

[00:33:48] That makes complete sense. Um, and they’ve been doing that for awhile where I remember even years ago, like when they first started, they would like mail you out a drive that they needed to get you Len this is when we were talking to like, Good bites. [00:34:00] Right.

[00:34:00] Brett: [00:34:00] When that was a big

[00:34:01] Christina: [00:34:01] a drive, right? No, with that many terabytes. Yeah.

[00:34:04] I can see that if you needed an off-site storage thing, I’m going to be honest. I feel like if you have, if it’s like Data that you absolutely need. Cause I think for most of us, a lot of the stuff that we have, like it’s media it’s stuff that is not necessarily right. It’s so, you know, it’s like your photos and whatnot.

[00:34:20] Like, I can’t think of much stuff I have. It’s going to be past like the, the one terabyte space or the two terabytes that like you get with, you know, like with, with, um, with iCloud or with, with, uh, uh, one driver or Dropbox or whatever, where you would need to be paying ongoing costs. I feel like if you’re past that point, you’re probably somebody who should be a, that price is not going to be like.

[00:34:45]Turning you off

[00:34:47] Brett: [00:34:47] Yeah.

[00:34:47] Christina: [00:34:47] B exactly. It’s not gonna be prohibited, but B it might be one of those things where you’re like, okay, maybe I need to look at a different sort of storage thing. Like maybe I need to look at a different sort of off-site storage thing, you know, [00:35:00] more of an SMB type of thing, uh, for, for offsite backups, right?

[00:35:03] Like, like I could still have a Synology or, or whatever else in home, but maybe I’m looking at like a different, like offsite stuff, if that’s that crucial to you.

[00:35:12] Brett: [00:35:12] yeah, or maybe you have like two Synology. So you have redundant backup between between a couple.

[00:35:20] Christina: [00:35:20] the one experience we had is that several of our drives failed at once. And we were wo