227: We Swear This Is Still a Tech Show

Brett

[00:00:00] Brett: [00:00:00] Hey, Christina, do you want to do the intro this week?

[00:00:03] Christina: [00:00:03] I do. Okay. You’re listening to overtired with, with me, Christina Warren and him Brett Terpstra. Hey, Brett, how are you?

[00:00:11] Brett: [00:00:11] I’m good. Christina Warren ha ha. I think you get to start with the health corner this week. How, how you doing

[00:00:19] Christina: [00:00:19] Okay, so I’m fine. I can’t iterate that enough. I, I have to be very clear on this because if my mom, for some reason, listens to this podcast, mom do not listen to this podcast. This is not the podcast that you need to

[00:00:32] Brett: [00:00:32] Stop right now.

[00:00:34] Christina: [00:00:34] Right. But, but also just in general, like, I love you mom, but like, this is not the podcast for you, but in case my mom or someone listens to this podcast, I have to be very clear.

[00:00:43] I’m fine. However, I had a little bit of a weird weekend. it is okay. Um, As, as it is, most of the country, and you’re going to laugh at this right now because you’re in [00:01:00] Minnesota where, you know, it, it gets cold and snows and like that’s a normal thing and people know how to deal with it. Uh, in parts of the country, like Texas, where I’m not.

[00:01:11] And, uh, the Pacific Northwest where I am living. It’s pretty rare that we get what we would call, like, I guess, major kind of winter storm alerts or whatever. And, um, for the last three years, I guess this would be the third year. There have been some, you know, snow or ice things that have happened in Seattle.

[00:01:32] I’ve managed to avoid them because I’ve been in an Australia when it’s happened. But this year I was not in Australia because of the pandemic. So, um, it snowed in Seattle over the weekend and it snowed pretty significantly for us. Like we got, you know, I think it peaks, you know, like, Like six or seven inches, eight or nine inches in some places which, um, for Seattle is, is quite a bit right?

[00:01:56] Like this isn’t going to be, you know, like I know that like people in New [00:02:00] York and, and, you know, people like you are like ha seven inches. What, like, that’s cute. But for this part of the country, that’s actually pretty significant. And the infrastructure is not designed to deal with that. They did have plows out in a lot more areas than I was expecting, and they did have more places that were shoveled and were dealt with better than I was expecting, but it was one of those things where I woke up Saturday morning and, you know, I see.

[00:02:30] Like white all over, like the outside. And, you know, the, the building is like sending in, you know, memos that they’re not going to be in that day because they, they kind of can’t get in and places are closed. No one’s delivering food at all. And then it polices were, um, like nobody really wasn’t on Saturday.

[00:02:48] And then it pleases warlike on, on Sunday and, and Monday, it was like much more limited hours and whatnot. Well, I woke up on Saturday morning and I had a bit of a predicament. [00:03:00] Because I wear contact lenses and I was positive. Like it was positive that I still had some extra pairs of contact lenses. And I woke up and, and one of my contact lenses, I sleep in mind.

[00:03:14] You’re not supposed to, but you can. It’s, it’s fine. Whatever. But like, I, I tend to sleep in mine and I woke up and one had fallen out. And, um, the other was kind of at that point where I was just like, all right, I’ll just, I’ll just take it out and put it in a new pair. And that was when I made the realization that I don’t have any contact lenses, which is a problem. So I’m like, shit, what am I going to do? I’m like blind. And I’m like, okay, don’t panic. You’ve got to have another pair that exists somewhere. I do not. So now I really am panicking because. I don’t have a pair of glasses, um, that I have access to. If I do have them, I’m not even sure where they are, but the prescription [00:04:00] is completely so outdated that they would be almost useless.

[00:04:03] I have no contact lenses. I’m like, I can’t see, this is an actual problem. So I start to try to make an appointment someplace, um, on my phone. And then I realized. You’re not gonna be able to get anywhere because everybody is closed and places aren’t gonna be open. What are you going to do? So I did manage to find a pair that were expired and were an older prescription that I put in.

[00:04:29] That were fine for like, you know, temporary. And then I was able to get an appointment at Costco for Monday because, um, my, um, normal, um, Oh, I should back up and say this too. I go to the eye doctor every year, but my optometrist, my ophthalmologist is in Atlanta. And the last time I saw him was on the 26th of December, 2019.

[00:04:51] Obviously didn’t see him in 2020. Um, he writes me a prescription every year. The expression, uh, the prescription has expired. So I can’t [00:05:00] even like order for rush delivery, you know, like a pair, like I’m like, okay, I had to actually go get an appointment somewhere to get an eye exam. The doctor’s office at work didn’t have any appointments until March.

[00:05:11] And so I was like, fine. I’ll I’ll go to Costco, uh, and, and have them do it because they have an optometry clinic. I’ll go there. Fine. So I make an appointment for Monday, go in Monday. I have my eye appointment. Um, I opt not to be dilated, but to pay $30 and have this weird, like, uh, I scan thing, which is not supposed to be a replacement for dilation, but is in effect used for it in most cases.

[00:05:40] And it can take like a 3d picture of all the aspects of your eye. And it’s, it’s interesting. I was like, fine. I’ll do that. And so I go in and I have my exam and she writes me the script and she’s in the middle of telling me how great my eyes look. And she’s looking at the scan that she took telling me how great my eyes look.

[00:05:58] And then she [00:06:00] stops and she, the, her whole demeanor changes, she’s trying, she’s very clearly trying not to freak me out, but I can tell she’s kinda freaked out and she’s like, okay, so there’s this spot on your eye here and this a tear in your retina. And I’m like, okay. And she’s like, yeah, she’s like, this is not good.

[00:06:23] She’s like, you need to get this repaired. Like now. And she’s like in, at this point, it’s almost four o’clock in the afternoon and, and I’m, you know, part of me is thinking I’m like, okay, well I can like go, you know, tomorrow or whatever. She’s like, no, you need to, you need to go. Like now I’m going to make some calls and find a specialist.

[00:06:41] You can see you now. So. I get my prescription for my glasses and contacts. Fortunately, although I didn’t even have a chance to like, look at anything. I’d been all excited about being at Costco because I wanted to get a hot dog. And, um, I was like, very excited about this. That’s all blown out the window and she’s like, okay, there’s [00:07:00] the retinal specialists like this there’s this ophthalmologist in Renton, which is, you know, like a good, like 40 minutes away, but whatever, she’s like, you need to go there now and they can see you.

[00:07:11] So. I get an Uber. I go to rent in, I check in to see this place. They see me right away. I see the dog that I have more scans. I am dilated this time. I have like other things done again. And then they look at it and they’re like, yep, you have a tear in your retina. And don’t worry, it’s not super serious.

[00:07:31] But if this isn’t taken care of, um, the, the concern is that they need this collegiate to a T to a detached retina and that could lead to blindness. And do you have any history of family history of this stuff? And I’m like, yeah, my dad actually is now basically blind in one eye because he had something like, he kind of had like a, uh, equivalent, like a stroke in his eye or something, but he had some sort of, you know, the attachment or whatever, um, fairly recently, and it’s been [00:08:00] pretty scary.

[00:08:00] And so they’re like, yeah, well we, we need to take care of this. And, and, um, so we’re going to put lasers in your eyes and we’re going to take care of this today. I’m like, okay, this is not what I was expecting. And so then, uh, they numbed my eyeball and put lasers in my eye and repaired the tear and repair like another thing.

[00:08:20] And then I’m going to come back and have like a spot in my left eye. This was my right eye and have a spot on my, my left eye watched to see, um, what’s happening, um, scary, but like, not that big of a deal. Well, then I wake up yesterday. Tuesday. And I’m seeing some floaters, which I hadn’t had before. I, I should also say this.

[00:08:42] I was completely asymptomatic. I had no symptoms at all. No, like flashes of light, no flavor, floaters that I was seeing, like there was nothing that was exhibiting itself to me that I would have known that I had a tear in my retina. And, um, so in retrospect, [00:09:00] I’m super glad that I ran out of contact lenses and had to make an, a, an emergency appointment because.

[00:09:05] Real talk. I probably would’ve waited until it would be safe for me to travel again, to go to my ophthalmologist in Atlanta, because I’ve been seeing him since I was a kid. Uh, he did eye surgery that I had, um, uh, uh, you know, over a little over a decade ago.

[00:09:25] Brett: [00:09:25] you are weirdly loyal to your healthcare providers.

[00:09:28] Christina: [00:09:28] I am, I

[00:09:29] Brett: [00:09:29] You’ll travel across the country for them.

[00:09:32] Christina: [00:09:32] I totally will. It’s it’s a weird thing. I’m both weirdly loyal. And also it’s like one of those, like, I just don’t want to find new people things,

[00:09:39] Brett: [00:09:39] Weirdly loyal and lazy.

[00:09:41] Christina: [00:09:41] yeah. So I was going to say it’s both, but, but for things like your eyes, like if you have somebody who’s literally like, been like treating you since you were a kid

[00:09:48] Brett: [00:09:48] Oh, yeah, I have a guy. I know how

[00:09:49] Christina: [00:09:49] yeah.

[00:09:50] And like, if I’m going to see my parents anyway, like I S, like I said, I see him every year. This isn’t one of those things where I put this off. Like I see him every year. Um, and [00:10:00] so, you know, like, like, like, like grant I think was trying to kind of understand. I was like, no, I saw him like 13 months ago.

[00:10:07] Like, this is not one of those things where like this, you know, so, so this is something that’s developed recently, right? Because he clearly didn’t see any signs of it, even when he was looking at me last. Um, so, um, I woke up yesterday morning and I was starting to see some floaters and also my eye was hurting. And so I called and they said, this is normal, but you need to like be off of screens for the day. I’m like, fuck, be off of screens for the day. Like that. That is my nightmare.

[00:10:40]Brett: [00:10:40] now it’s affecting my life.

[00:10:43] Christina: [00:10:43] Right, right. Well, and at this point too, like, cause he told me that I could wear contacts and whatnot, but I hadn’t put them in cause my eye hurt. And I’m like, like the laser is not painful, but it’s not comfortable either. Um, and uh, you know, sadly you don’t get like magic powers, but it is one of those things where like it, [00:11:00] yeah.

[00:11:00] It’s not a super comfortable thing. Um, but, but it’s not like super painful, but it’s also, yeah, it’s not super comfortable to like have, you know, Something hot and sharp and whatever, like on your eyeball, it’s just not. Uh, and so, um, they were like, all right, stay off screens for the day. And if it, if it doesn’t, if it persists or whatever, then they can come in.

[00:11:21] But, but, but take it off. So. Um, on Tuesday, I basically had to, like, I was very, very, very limited, like on any screens, I was listening to a lot of podcasts because I’m now in a position where I have I’m very near-sighted and this is why my retina, I think, like I had the tear, it’s more common in people who are near-sighted.

[00:11:40] Um, like it’s, it’s not something I did it wasn’t, I didn’t have any sort of trauma or whatever. It was just one of those, like, things that just happen. But, um, Like I’m in this position where I can’t see anything more than, I don’t know, five inches in front of my face. Uh, and I [00:12:00] can’t look at screens and I’m just like, this sucks.

[00:12:05] So I was like, I guess I can listen to podcasts and. Taylor Swift music, uh, you know, but it was like one of those things, like it’s, and it’s even one of those things like it, you know, it’s hard to like walk around even like, when you’re like this blind, this is why I was freaking out on Saturday. When I woke up, I was like, Holy shit.

[00:12:21] Like I’m, this is like an unsafe situation. I mean, I’m kind of, I guess, in retrospect, again, like happy that we’re in a situation where, you know, we’re not expected to go into work because I don’t know how I would get into an office or something. You know, um, with, with being able to see the way that I am.

[00:12:40] So now, now we’re like two days later and my eye is still a little sore, but it’s fine. But the floaters seem to have gone away. So

[00:12:50] Brett: [00:12:50] But you

[00:12:50] Christina: [00:12:50] I’m fine.

[00:12:51] Brett: [00:12:51] now.

[00:12:52] Christina: [00:12:52] But yeah, I can look at screens now I’m going to try to be like more limited and like, not be on them, like for [00:13:00] 16 or 17 hours a day. But yeah,

[00:13:03] Brett: [00:13:03] Does your prescription change much?

[00:13:05] Christina: [00:13:05] Not really. Um, and in fact like it, so when I saw him a year ago, he wrote me two prescriptions for my contacts and he was like, here’s a higher one and a lower one, and you can have them both billed.

[00:13:18] But if you feel like you need the higher one, get it filled. And I didn’t, I just had the lower one filled. And then she said the same thing. She was going to give me the higher one. But when she kind of showed both, she was like, well, no, if you can make, do with the lower one, which is still. You know, moderate, uh, Lehigh.

[00:13:33] She was like, then, then do that. Um, don’t, don’t go up. So it doesn’t change very often. Like it has changed over time obviously, but, but you know, it’s every, every two years or so, I would say that I probably go up.

[00:13:48] Brett: [00:13:48] huh? My, I got my first pair of glasses when I was 12 and it like, I, I had been near-sighted for years and didn’t realize that like trees had individual leaves and things like that. [00:14:00] Um, so I got my glasses. I think I was around 12 and my prescription has not changed since. I I’m required to get an eye exam.

[00:14:10] Uh, my, uh, my next layer every two years. And in order to keep getting contacts, I have to get an eye exam, but it’s pointless because my prescription never changes.

[00:14:23] Christina: [00:14:23] what’s your prescription.

[00:14:24] Brett: [00:14:24] Fuck. If I know, why would I know that

[00:14:27] Christina: [00:14:27] I don’t know.

[00:14:28] Brett: [00:14:28] it’s like negative 1.5, but I have no idea. 1.5. What. And my, my left eye is worse than my right eye

[00:14:37] Christina: [00:14:37] That’s no, I mean that’s low. Yeah. My mine is, mine is negative six. Um, which, uh, is not great, but it’s also not like terrible. Like there’s some people who are like negative 12, which was like, for people who have that, like they need, they have to wear hard contact lenses because

[00:14:55] Brett: [00:14:55] or

[00:14:56] Christina: [00:14:56] have to be so thick. Yeah. But like, [00:15:00] So I think we’ve talked about this before. So, so you got glasses when you were 12. Did you get contacts then too? Or how old were you when you got contacts?

[00:15:08] Brett: [00:15:08] remember. I think I didn’t get context until high school.

[00:15:11] Christina: [00:15:11] Okay. Um, yeah, so I got contacts when I was eight. Um, I bet. Yeah. So I basically had glasses for like two days, maybe. So, uh, it started when, like I was in first grade and I found out I had to go, it was needing to sit in the front of the room to be able to see things. And then my vision was, was slowly showing that it was worse.

[00:15:32] And so I went to the doctor and you have to think that in like 1991, um, glasses for kids, well, they still suck, frankly. They still suck, but they really sucked then, like you had very limited number of frames. And they were ugly and I hated how they looked and I cried and I was like, I don’t want to wear these.

[00:15:52] And like, I cried on the way home. I think I wore them all twice for probably 45 minutes. And I was just like, asked my mom was like, [00:16:00] why can’t I just get contact lenses? And she was like, well, I’m not sure she asked the doctor. And he put somebody who I think was as young as maybe nine or 10 in them never, never anybody eight.

[00:16:12] And he was like, well, If she’s responsible enough, if she can, you know, do it in the office, then we’ll, we’ll let her have them. And I was able to do it and it took me, you know, it used to take me a long time to put them in and now I made it, I don’t even need it. I haven’t needed a mirror in years. You know, it was one of those things when like the, um, um, optometrist who was super sweet, um, at the, the Costco clinic, she was asking me, she was like, is there any reason why you sleep in your contacts?

[00:16:40] And I was like, I’ve been wearing contacts for 30 years. I bad habits. She’s like, no, it’s fine. You, you change the more frequently if you do that. But you know, like, because these are rated a certain way or whatever, but she was like, it’s fine. I was like, yeah. I was like, I should probably, you know, take better care of things or whatever, but, you know, I never had any issues.

[00:16:59] And, [00:17:00] and for the record, The terror. My retina had nothing to do with, with my like regime of my contact lenses. Um, because I did ask about that. I was like, did I do anything for this? She was like, no, she was like, you could get like an eye ulcer or some other stuff, which I did have once. And, and that was enough for me to be like, no, I’ll take better care of like my, my, my contact lens health.

[00:17:21] But at this point, like I’ve been wearing them for, you know, like so much of my life that, um, I should get LASIK now that I’ve had like one laser in my eye now I’m kind of like, well, fuck it. I should just get the, get the whole thing done. Um,

[00:17:39]Brett: [00:17:39] we have dedicated 20 minutes of our show to iHealth. We should be sponsored by, uh, maybe, uh, what’s that ma uh, pouch and loam

[00:17:52] Christina: [00:17:52] yeah. Yeah. Bausch and Lomb. Them or, or, um, uh, who is it? Uh, uh, Oasis is, is, uh, [00:18:00] is, is the brand name of whoever I do it, but yeah, Bausch and Lomb or somebody else should definitely sponsor us.

[00:18:05] Brett: [00:18:05] week’s episode brought to you by two people who sleep in their contact. I sleep in mind for. Uh, generally a month at a time. And then I’ll take them out and let them soak for a day or two and I’ll wear glasses. And then I’ll put the same pair back in for another month. And I changed my contacts like every two months.

[00:18:25] And I’m honest with this, about this with my doctor and, and he basically is like, your eyes look fine. Your, your eyes are in great shape. I really, I don’t endorse the way you treat them, but you it’s not causing you any problems. So carry on.

[00:18:42] Christina: [00:18:42] Right. Yeah, exactly. This has been my scenario as well. So, uh, but again, anyone listening, we’re not doctors we’ve made that pretty clear. Uh,

[00:18:51]Brett: [00:18:51] Yes. Yes, we have

[00:18:54]Christina: [00:18:54] but, uh, but who are we really sponsored by this week?

[00:18:57] Brett: [00:18:57] Oh, well, uh, let’s [00:19:00] start with, uh, with some, some cat litter. Um, so I, this morning was yoga. Uh, at home, of course, uh, and, uh, The kitten bod. Uh, she, she was having a very wild morning, like tearing around the house, jumping up on things, attacking toes and just going nuts. And she had started to calm down by the time yoga started and like all through, like we, uh, enforced yoga.

[00:19:31] You do a lot of AB work. Um, so all through abs while I’m on my back, she’s sitting on my chest, just watching me. And then we went straight into bridge and she fell asleep. She’s just like sleeping on my chest all the way through bridge. It was pretty hilarious. Um, but anyway,

[00:19:52] Christina: [00:19:52] is awesome.

[00:19:53] Brett: [00:19:53] she really is so, Oh, w while we’re talking about CA so Valentine’s day [00:20:00] would have been Finnegan’s birthday.

[00:20:03] So that was kind of, uh, uh,

[00:20:05] Christina: [00:20:05] A hard one.

[00:20:06] Brett: [00:20:06] Yeah, it was, it was rough for us, but I, I, it made me fully cognizant that bod has, has brought me joy in a, in a place that would have been really sad. So, uh, rest in peace Finnegan. Uh, we also got bod spade the day before Valentine’s day. So she was groggy and I was seriously concerned.

[00:20:36] That something horrible was going to happen, but it didn’t end. And this morning was proof that she survived. Anyway. One of the great things about cats is that you don’t have to let them out. In the fucking gold or take them for walks in the cold.

[00:20:55] Christina: [00:20:55] cold, right.

[00:20:56] Brett: [00:20:56] But the downside of that is that they poop inside your [00:21:00] house and, uh, and they don’t know how to use a toilet.

[00:21:02] So you end up cleaning a litter box. So. Question for you. What if there was a way to have an odor-free litter box? It was easy to clean and automatically replaced every month. And what if it was leak-proof and made from entirely recycled material and itself was recyclable as well. That’s what kitty poo club does.

[00:21:23] Kitty poo club is an all-in-one litter box solution designed to be convenient for you. Every month, kitty poo club delivers an affordable high quality recyclable litter box. That’s prefilled with the litter of your choice. And as I’ve mentioned before, I chose the soy-based litter because hippies and, uh, it has been like I’ve had the same litter out for a full month.

[00:21:50] And it does not smell at all, like at all. So I am really impressed with this particular litter. I haven’t tried the [00:22:00] nontoxic still look a litter, but if it’s anything like this, soy-based litter, it there, their promise of an odor free litter box is valid. Um, and bod, who we were just talking about. She loves it too.

[00:22:15] We you’re supposed to have one more litter box, then you have number of cats. So we have

[00:22:22] Christina: [00:22:22] So, so you’re supposed to have three.

[00:22:23] Brett: [00:22:23] So we have three litter boxes. Only one of them right now is a kitty poo club box. Bod almost always picks the kitty poo club litter. She loves it. Um, I don’t. Yeti Yeti, maybe it’s a territory thing, but Yeti, Yeti likes the one that we have a smallish house.

[00:22:46] And so with three litter boxes, one of them almost has to be in my bedroom and. I didn’t get the kitty poo club box in my bedroom. Elle got that one in [00:23:00] her bedroom. Um, because we have separate bedrooms because you have, it is so nice. I never had that when I was married, we always shared a bed and it turns out I really don’t like sleeping with other people.

[00:23:12] So anyway, side tangent, but.

[00:23:15] Christina: [00:23:15] That is the dream to be totally honest. I have a bedroom. I’m a huge fan of

[00:23:19] Brett: [00:23:19] It is so nice here. It is so nice. The side side, side, tangent, Bob tends to sleep with me and she curls up in the crook of my knee. And one of the beauties of sleeping in your own bed is you can fart, like it’s okay to fart. Bod, however, hates farts. She bites my butt. If I fart like threw the blanket, she will bite me.

[00:23:47] It’s it’s pretty hilarious. And then I crack up, but anyway, these boxes are leak-proof eco-friendly and have a fun design for every season. When the month is up, you just recycled the box in kitty poo [00:24:00] club automatically delivers a brand new one, a no changing use litter, and you might even be able to get away without cleaning the litter at all.

[00:24:08] You can cut. The reason that we do clean our litter is because the dog eats the poop and we don’t want the dog eating the poop. So other than that, honestly, it, it, I, if you don’t have a dog that eats poop yeah. You can get away without cleaning your litter at all. Uh, and you can customize your order based on how many cats you have and what type of litter they prefer.

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[00:24:53] That’s kitty poo club.com and promo code overtired. I just made like a five minute [00:25:00] read out of that too.

[00:25:01] Christina: [00:25:01] That’s

[00:25:02] Brett: [00:25:02] we’re moving slowly today. We’re already halfway through the show and we haven’t even talked about Taylor Swift’s new album yet.

[00:25:11] Christina: [00:25:11] I know. Which is important.

[00:25:14] Brett: [00:25:14] I mean, w this is above all else. A Taylor Swift podcast,

[00:25:19] Christina: [00:25:19] It is a Taylor Swift podcast. So.

[00:25:21] Brett: [00:25:21] a Brittany Spears podcast, apparently, but

[00:25:24] Christina: [00:25:24] Yes. Yes, yes. A follow up on that. Uh, Elle sent me a really nice DM this morning that I haven’t had a chance to respond to, but I will because of the eye thing, um, because she had thoughts about it, which were really thoughtful that I’m going to respond to.

[00:25:37] Brett: [00:25:37] I told you

[00:25:38] Christina: [00:25:38] thank you, L definitely is.

[00:25:41] So thank you Al for that, because I appreciate it. Like.

[00:25:46] Brett: [00:25:46] She told me she’s like, I like Christina. It doesn’t have to make good on her. Like, uh, talking about like having an in-depth conversation. With me, but, but she does have thoughts.

[00:25:58] Christina: [00:25:58] I love that. And I’m [00:26:00] very appreciative of that to be totally honest, because I’ve been thinking a lot about it. So Taylor Swift is rerecording all of her old news.

[00:26:09]Brett: [00:26:09] W I thought w I thought Ryan Adams already did that for her.

[00:26:14] Christina: [00:26:14] bump, bump?

[00:26:15]Brett: [00:26:15] Okay. So, so again, this is like second time around.

[00:26:19] Christina: [00:26:19] Yes. Speaking of problematic faves, um,

[00:26:23] Brett: [00:26:23] tell me what I don’t. I don’t know about this.

[00:26:26] Christina: [00:26:26] Oh, Oh you, Oh, he got canceled hard.

[00:26:29] Brett: [00:26:29] Oh, wow.

[00:26:30] Christina: [00:26:30] Uh, so he, um, so, you know, uh, uh, Phoebe Bridgers,

[00:26:36] Brett: [00:26:36] No.

[00:26:37] Christina: [00:26:37] she’s great. She’s you would like her she’s really good. She came forward that he likes, started grooming her when she was like, Really young and like taking advantage of her and like basically kind of like held albums and stuff.

[00:26:49] She was working on hostage and other women came forward about abusive behavior. Mandy Moore, his ex wife came forward and was like, yeah, he was like an emotionally [00:27:00] abusive, like asshole when we were married that also like held some of her albums and art stuff, hostage, like some. Underage girl. It’s, it’s unclear if he knew she was underage or not, like came forward about like their relationship and, and, um, sexting stuff and whatnot.

[00:27:22] Um, yeah. Yeah. He got canceled. Hardcore.

[00:27:26] Brett: [00:27:26] I totally missed that.

[00:27:28] Christina: [00:27:28] Yeah. So, um, It’s a problem. I mean, it’s terrible. Like what he did, obviously. And then he like released some like pseudo apology thing. And then he, it happened right before he was supposed to release like two albums in a year. And those were obviously shelved, although he has his own record label.

[00:27:46] So, you know, he can do his own kind of thing, but you know, his, his touring and all that stuff was out. And then he did actually release. The the album and he was just kind of, it was, it was written beforehand and he [00:28:00] released, you know, an apology, but it’s not clear if that’s going to be enough or not. I don’t know.

[00:28:06] It’s um, he’s always been one of my favorite artists, so

[00:28:10] Brett: [00:28:10] like the kind of thing you can apologize away. That sounds like the kind of thing that I, 100% thinks someone should, should be canceled for.

[00:28:18] Christina: [00:28:18] Yeah, no, I agree in the difficult thing then becomes like, it’s the whole, like, you know, like art versus artists thing. And, and I, I can’t pretend like I don’t still enjoy and have like good emotional memories of his past work, but it is also one of those things where I’m like, yeah, I’m not going to listen to his new stuff, you know?

[00:28:36] And even the past stuff is, unfortunately now tanged with this. With this weird-ass, which is unfortunate, but like, I, you know, obviously don’t condone or support anything that he did, but God it’s really unfortunate. Um, uh, mostly for the, for the women who had to suffer, like yeah.

[00:28:54] Brett: [00:28:54] yeah, I just thought of a perfect segue to our second sponsor. I’m going to hold onto [00:29:00] it because

[00:29:01] Christina: [00:29:01] Wash to wash it

[00:29:02] Brett: [00:29:02] Yes. Oh my God. Yes. But anyway, we’ll get back to that. So Taylor is, is rerecording old stuff because she already put out two albums this year

[00:29:12] Christina: [00:29:12] Right,

[00:29:13] Brett: [00:29:13] you know what? Let’s let’s keep going and just start from the beginning and do it all again.

[00:29:20] Christina: [00:29:20] exactly. It’s that? And um, so her masters have now been sold twice. I think we talked about this before. So she was with a record label called big machine records. That that was, I think she was the first artist they signed that she signed with when she was 15 years old. And she was with them for her first six albums.

[00:29:41] So, uh, or self-titled fearless speak now read 1989 reputation and, uh, And yes, I did just like rattle that off the top of my head without even having to think about it, which is really sad. Um, and so, [00:30:00] um, this is true. So she, uh, those first six albums were with that label and she’d wanted to own her own masters.

[00:30:08] And, and by owning that, like, she’s the song writer on all of her songs. Uh, sometimes she’s the soul song, right. But she’s at least like one of them, like on all of them. And so she owns her publishing, meaning that she. Gets control over who can license the song. And she gets paid every time, like a fee every time, you know, as long as played or covered or whatever, um, as a songwriter, but the mechanical recording of like the song itself, the master recording, the music video, uh, the album art, like all that stuff belongs to belong to the label, which is fairly common.

[00:30:42] She wanted to own her masters and she claims that she was never given an opportunity to own her masters. Um, instead what she was given was kind of an idea, which was okay if you re up and reassign another deal with us, because after her initial deal had expired for each new album, you give [00:31:00] us, we’ll give you the masters back on an old album.

[00:31:05] Um, and. And she was like, but, but, but I don’t want that. I just want to buy them outright. And, and the, the, the CEO, the owner of the record label, he wanted to sell the record label and she knew that was going to happen. Why she didn’t buy the record label outright. I’m not sure she claimed she was not ever given the opportunity to buy her masters outright.

[00:31:24] There’s dispute about that. But he then sold the record label to someone and not just anyone, but someone who Taylor has beef with someone who tailored very much dislikes. And this obviously may Taylor very, very, very upset. So Taylor came forward with a statement. Uh, this was like in, in, in 2019, when, when this was revealed that, you know, how, how, like, you know, like destroyed, she felt by it, how upset she was by it and, and really started advocating for artists rights.

[00:31:55] And then was basically kind of like, okay. And starting, you know, next year I [00:32:00] can rerecord. All of my music because, um, you know, you have to like the clause in, in, in her contract basically said, uh, you know, you can rerecord after if it’s been, you know, at least five years or whatever. So for her first five albums, she was like, I, you know, enough time over the past that I, that I can rerecord, you know?

[00:32:21] Um, but my first five albums or whatever, and I, and I’m going to do that because I don’t want this, this guy, scooter Braun to get money. And own my work. He’s still gonna own the masters, know my music, videos and things that are really personal to me, but I don’t want them profiting off of this. Well, that kicked off a back and forth and people were, you know, people on both sides were, were, were saying stuff.

[00:32:43] And then over the summer, Um, right before she released folklore, it came out that scooter Braun sold her masters. So not the whole label, but her masters to Shamrock holdings, which is like, uh, [00:33:00] uh, um, Private equity firm for $335 million, which was like the same amount that he paid for the entire record label.

[00:33:08] So he he’d gotten funders cause he doesn’t have that kind of cash to buy the record label for over $300 billion. And then he sold just her masters for more than that, um, to this the Shamrock whole lanes. And at first she was like, I talked to the Shamrock. They were really supportive. I liked working with them, but he still going to get a cut up some stuff for as period of time.

[00:33:29] And I don’t want him getting anything from anything that I do. So I’m still gonna go forward and rerecord everything. So she announced last week as kind of surprise the, the first. Uh, the release date for her first, like kind of fully rerecorded album, which is her second album fearless that she won album of the year for and a re-released, um, version of love story Taylor’s version, which was her first international number one.

[00:33:58] And, uh, [00:34:00] it’s good.

[00:34:02] Brett: [00:34:02] all right.

[00:34:02] Christina: [00:34:02] good.

[00:34:03] Brett: [00:34:03] All right.

[00:34:05] Christina: [00:34:05] Um,

[00:34:05] Brett: [00:34:05] I, Frank Frank, our friend grumpy, Frank, he, uh, he, he, he DMD me to let me know there was, uh, there was new stuff that I, I should, I should check out. And I didn’t because I, I got other stuff to do. Um, but, uh, but yeah, I didn’t realize what it was at all until just now that, that, that was what was going on.

[00:34:31] That’s that’s interesting. Yeah,

[00:34:33] Christina: [00:34:33] Yeah. And, and, um, the, the way that she’s doing it, I mean, obviously she wants them to sound as close to the originals as possible because, um, that’s the whole point, right? Cause it’s really, the whole point of this is I think to is to, to lessen the value of the originals, which will always have value.

[00:34:50] I think that her goal would be long-term would be okay. Make this so that she can sell the sync rights, which would be like, meaning like the. The, the rights to be [00:35:00] used in, in, in TV or movies or whatever, um, uh, for these new ones. Cause she’ll, she’ll approve that she won’t approve the old version. She’ll approve the new ones.

[00:35:08] Um, make it valuable enough for the new ones. De-value the originals to the point where maybe Shamrock will be willing to sell them to her for. I don’t know, a hundred million dollars in a few years or whatever, right? Like that they’ll, they won’t see it as an appreciating asset, but as, as depreciating because she is doing this other stuff.

[00:35:26] Um, so it sounds really similar, but also her voices has gotten a lot better. So you, it sounds. It’s actually interesting to listen to the two side by side, because the instrumentation is richer, although it’s, you know, similar, um, she got many of the same people who, who were on the original to record with her on the new one.

[00:35:48] Um, but her voice sounds better. And, uh, it’s just like a more full sound. Um, it’s really interesting it’s to, to listen to it, how it like sounds exactly like the old song, but also different. [00:36:00] Uh, it it’s it’s, it’s good. I’m super, super excited to hear the rest of her catalog as that comes out and what she’s going to do when she releases.

[00:36:10] Fearless it’ll be out in April 9th, um, is that she has, uh, six additional songs that were from her vault that she’d never recorded before. Exactly, exactly. And so, um, the, the, the music video, or I guess I should say like lyric video, she did was actually really sweet because like love stories, like probably.

[00:36:31] Like it, it was her first really, really big head. And, and it’s, it’s the one that like, she always performs and has updated a couple of times make more like a more modern twist, like for 1989, like she made like kind of a synth pop kind of variant of it and whatnot. And, um, she didn’t do that for this rerecording.

[00:36:48] Like she very much kept like the banjo and like the, the, the, um, uh, You know, um, slide, um, a guitar and stuff like that, uh, in it, but, uh, the fiddles [00:37:00] and violins and whatnot. But, um, she, um, made a lyric video that because it’s one of her most iconic music videos, and one of the sad things about this, I’m going