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Proverbs That Pack a Punch - Part 3

Apr 17, 202650 min

Proverbs That Pack a Punch - Part 2

Welcome in everyone!!!! Continuing on with our topic, Proverbs That Pack a Punch [Insert audio "ding" here], this week we have a doozy! Ever ask yourself, "What does God hate?" Hmmmmm well look no further! Join Ben and I as we do a dive into the Book of Proverbs and answer this question! To be honest, this one was hard folks because we are reminded there is always something that we could be doing better...and this week I was reminded a lot. However, there is always hope when you look to our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ! Thank you for listening and hope you enjoy. P.s. I love that Ben came up with that amazing title!!! Have a blessed week everyone!

Feb 3, 20261h 2m

Proverbs That Pack a Punch - Part 1

We are 15 days into a new month of the new year and it has already been a doosie! Am I the only one? Probably not. Welcome in everyone! Embark with Ben and I as we venture into a Provberbs series. Why you may ask?...Because the book of Proverbs is awesome! That's Why! Oh, wait...the real reason is because Proverbs is full of knowledge and that is something I greatly starting off the new year. Am I the only one? Have a blessed week everyone!!!!

Jan 16, 202643 min

New Year, New Me...Same Jesus!

Well here we go loyal listeners (and hopefully a few million new ones), first episode of the year!!!! We are out the gates with a bang!!! We are so blessed to make it through 2025 and to be gifted a new year! Welcome 2026!!! Welcome EPISODE 1!!!! WOOOOOOO!!! Join Ben and I today as we talk about making goals as Christians as well as break off on a few side tangents. Thank you so much for listening! Please continue to share as we are only growing right now by word of mouth and we love every minute of it!! We love you guys!!! Have a blessed week everyone!!!! P.S. Please continue to pray for us and the lauch of the show on Youtube! Just a couple more little nick nacks to put together and BAM!!!...we on the internets.

Jan 7, 202646 min

The Gift That Changed Everything

Well well well! We have come to that of year folks where we are blessed to celebrate the birth of our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ. Press play and enjoy this hearfelt reflection of my Christmases prior to having Jesus in my life, and after. This was all Ben's idea and it was a fantastic one. Hope everyone has a fantastice Christmas filled with stories and relections of Jesus, giving thanks and of course some good ol' fashioned egg nog! Have a blessed week everyone!!!! P.s. Please keep promoting the show and praying for our launch on YouTube!!! We love all of you and are so thankful for the support!

Dec 23, 202556 min

Breaking Bread, Giving Thanks

Hello Everyone! Sorry for the delay of course, but life has been lifing...again! LOL. Well, without further adu here is out Thanksgiving episode. It is a doosy and one of our best. We are almost at 1,000 listens and we could not be happier at how God has helped us chug along thus far. Press play, enjoy and have a blessed week everyone!!!

Dec 23, 202555 min

Beyond the Limit

I love the actors Michael Caine and Richard Gere, but that is not why we are here today. Why did God build us with limitations? What do we do with out limitations? These are major questions I asked myself in the beginning of my journey into Christianity. Come join Ben and I today as we look to the Bible to answer these questions...plus a healthy dose of shinanegans lol Don't forget to like, follow subscribe and share. Have a blessed week everyone! P.S. Ben and I are on the cusp of our Youtube launch! Please pray for us!!!!

Oct 30, 202542 min

El Bandido Generoso

Ok...I honestly didn't know "El Bandido Generoso" (The Generous Bandit) was an actual movie title, but as soon as I saw it I had to use it LOL. Thank you for joining us! This week Ben and I cover what the Bible says about generosity. Whether we see it or not, the Good Lord is generous with us every day. Thank you for listening. Hopefully you learn something. More importantly...Read your Bible!!! Have a blessed week everyone.

Oct 24, 202553 min

Entertainment Tonight

Huge personal topic for me and my walk with Jesus...What do we watch or what entertaiment do we consume as Christians? I have a feeling I'm not the only one struggling with this question. Thankfully I have my brother Ben to help me. Welcome to the show and thank you for joining us. Don't forget to give us a follow and leave a review. Have a blessed week everyone!!!

Oct 17, 202549 min

Mission Possible

Welcome! It was such a pleasure and again so much fun recording this amazing episode with my brother Ben. Today we titled this episode "Mission Possible" becuase ALL THINGS are possible thorugh Christ. So let's just have a little bit more faith thant the size of a mustard seed as we gather together. Please remeber to like, follow, subscribe and share. Have a blessed week everyone. P.s. We are possilby weeks away from heading to Youtube, so all prayers for grace, guidence and knowledge from the good Lord to direct are paths on this...Mission (hah! Pun intended) are welcome.

Sep 25, 202549 min

A Big Bold Beautiful Journey

Today we are not talking about the new movie with the same title starring Colin Farrell and Margot Robbie (however it does look like a decent rom com and I am a huge fan of Mr. Farrell), but we are instead talking about Christian Boldness! That's right!! There is such a thing as Christian boldness!!! Join us today on another amazing episode and we hope you not only enjoy what you hear after you press play, but learn something as well. As always please don't forget to share this show with your friends and family. Have a blessed week everyone! P.S. There is no substitution for spending alone time with the Lord, so ready your Bible!!!

Sep 20, 202540 min

Once Upon a Time

Ok, so the epissode today is about wasting time or "time wasters" and the title doesn't really fit except for the use of the word "time" in the title...ok... just forgive me please. There wasn't many movie titles or refernce points with the word "Time" in it. Anywyas, we are so happy you are here and are joining Ben and myself on this episode of Old Sinners New Saints. Don't forget to spread the show. We are all about spreading the word, gospel and love of Jesus Christ and want to use this paltform gifted to us to its max. Have a blessed week everyone!

Sep 11, 202539 min

How to be a Spiritual Failure - Part 3

Wake the parents and sound the alarms...EPISODE 70 PEOPLE!!!! AAAAAHHHHHHHHH!!!!! Join us for the concluding chapter of our topic, "How to be a Spiritual Failure." We hope you continue to listen, support and share with your family and friends. The Good Lord has provided the way and we are taking it one day at a time, one step at a time. Thank you guys for everything and have a blessed week!!! P.S. Don't forget to read your Bible :)

Aug 26, 202543 min

How to be a Spiritual Failure - Part 2

Here is Part 2 of how to be a spiritual failure. We are two episodes in and 7 bullet points deep. I can safely say I have probalbly done all of them. I say this not in a gloating manner, but from the realization that I am a sinner and will always fall short of God's glory. That's why I need him. That's why I look up to our Father in Heaven. Because I can't go through this life alone...and wouldn't want to. Press play, turn up the volume and enjoy! P.s. We'd love to hear from you...Yes YOU! Reach us on Instagram at Oldsinnersnewsaints or at [email protected]. Love you guys!!!

Aug 19, 202535 min

How to be a Spiritual Failure - Part 1

There are many questions we ask ourselves as Christians on a yearly, monthly even daily basis. Have you ever asked yourself, "Am I a spiritual failure?" I myself have never asked this so I am very glad that Ben and I over the next three episodes will cover ten key points on this list. Please join us on this journey and rememver that we would love to hear from you. Please write to us with questions, comment to [email protected]. Oh! We'd also love it if you left a review on whatever app your listening on. Have a blessed week everyone! P.s. Please pray for us and the growth of the show!!!

Aug 19, 202545 min

Armor Wars - Part 2

Part Two of our Armor of God two parter!...Need I say more? LET'S GOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!! P.S. We'd love to hear from you. Reach out to us with comments, questions or prayer requests at [email protected]. Have a blessed week everyone!!!

Jul 25, 202537 min

Armor Wars - Part 1

Welcome to the Armor Wars people. No, not the Marvel comics story line (however I can't recomment that series enough if you're a comics fan). Today, we are talking about the neverending spiritual battle in which we need to put on the Armor of God. What is the Armor of God? What the Armor of God consist of? Well, join us as Ben and I cover some of those questions and then some. Press play, we hope you enjoy and we thank you for listening. Have a blessed week everyone!!! P.S. The Marvel Armor Wars story line is being developed into a series. Go Don Cheadle!!!

Jul 11, 202542 min

Prayer Warriors

Ok, so IMDB didn't have any fun titles with the word "Prayer" in it so I had to come up with my own. Let's just say I'm much better at taking original photographs than coming up with original titles lol. On this week's episode Ben and I discuss the meaning of prayer. It was such a fun to record this and we hope you have a great time listening to it and learn something as well. Have a blessed week everyone!!! P.s. IT'S JULY ALREADY!!! WHERE DID THE TIME GO!!!???

Jul 3, 202540 min

Failure to Launch

Alright Alright Alright! Today we are not talking about the classic 2006 Matthew McConaughey movie "Failure to Launch" (Althought thinking about this movie does take me back), but instead we are talking about failure. That's right loyal listeners, failure. All of us fail at some point, but we sweep it under the bed quicker than our pair of running shoes. Why is that? Because no one likes to fail that's why! Well, have you ever looked at failure from a Biblical point of view? Join Ben and I today on this amazing episode where we can possibly help illuminate a different point of view on this topic. Enjoy and have a blessed week everyone!!! P.s. God is good all the time! And all the time God is good!!!

Jun 26, 202545 min

Fear Street

Welcome everyone! Don't let this episode's title throw you off. We are not talking about the anothology series on Netflix. We're talking about something much better...The Bible. Well, specifically the topic of fear and what the Good Lord tells us about fear in his living word. Hopefully as always you learn something new from the unique perspectives God has given us or our friendly banter back and forth. We appreicate all you loyal listeners out there! At the end of the day, it's all about growing closer to our Lord and Savior...Jesus Christ. Have a blessed week everyone!

Jun 20, 202542 min

The Secret of My Success

No, we are not talking about the 1987 movie starring Michael J. Fox. Today, Ben and I are discussing how the Bible defines "Christian Success" or what it means to be a successful Christian. Remember we are in the world, but not of it. There are so many definitions of success these days that defining all of them can make us go crazy. How about to we look to the word that matters...the word of our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ. Press play, have a listen and please don't forget to share. Have a blessed week everyone! P.s. I think Michael J. Fox was totally underrated. I miss him as an actor so much!!!!

Jun 12, 202538 min

Crisis on Infinite Earth

Any DC fans out there will recognize the title of the week (and no, I'm not talking about the City lol). Thank you for joining us today in which we talk about an interesting topic, "What do we do in a crisis!?" I ponder this question ALL THE TIME! You ever think about this? Well, if you do Ben and I (and the Bible of course ;) got you covered!!! Sit back, press play and enjoy the episode! Have a blessed week everyone!!! P.s. Don't forget to read your Bible!

Jun 7, 202539 min

The Gambler

There was a farmer who had a dog and what was his name?...Don't really remember, but apologies as I digress. Join us on today's episode where Ben and I discuss what the Bible (God's Living Word) says about duhn duhn duhn...Gambling. We are super stoked you found the show! We appreaciate all follows, subscribes and whatever esle you can do to bring ears to the show. We love that God has presented this platform for us to do our part and spread the name of Jesus. Have a blessed week everyone! Now I remember!...BINGO was his name oh!!!

May 29, 202539 min

God's Will Hunting

Welcome in everyone!!! This week's episode was a blast to record. We had such a great time covering everyting from horror stories at Midas to our topic...Finding God's Will. Hope you enjoy listening to it as much as we did recording it. Please continue to keep us and the show in your prayers as we gear up to take the show to another level. We love you loyal listners. Have a blessed week everyone!

May 22, 202543 min

Top 10 Psalms: Psalm 146

Welcome to the concluding chapter of amazing series of Top 10 Psalms!!! Woooooooo!!! We made people! It has been so much fun recording these episodes with Ben over the past couple months. What an amazing time indeed. We are ending with Psalm 146 which is a Psalm of thanks. This seems very fitting to me because no matter what is going on in our lives there is always something to be thankful to God for. Don't forget to read your Bible and have personal alone time with the Lord...after pressing "play" on this episode of course. P.S. I believe this series is worthy of a Dove award! Not sure which one, but I'm pretty sure it's good enough for one of them. Spread the word loyal listeners.

May 14, 202536 min

Top 10 Psalms: Psalm 121

Welcome in everyone! If you're like me and your brain and emotions don't seem to have and off switch, then stop everything you are doing and press "play" on this amzing episode of OSNS in which we cover Psalm 121. Psalm 121 is a Psalm of comfort. We learn from the Psalmist's example that we may remain strong in faith and wait for God's help and protection. So often do I try to take charge of my own life only to feel more pressure, more weight and more anxiety. We are not meant to take everything by ourselves, but to give it to the one above. I love Psalm 121 and I hope that you come to find a new appreication for it too. Have a blessed week everyone!

May 14, 202538 min

Top 10 Psalms: Psalm 88

Happy Wednesday everyone!!! We hope you are having a wonderful week and if you are in the Sacramento area enjoying the random rain and winds as we are. For those of you not in the Sacramento area we would love to hear from you. Email us [email protected] or reach out to us on InstaGram. We continue our Top 10 Psalms with Psalm 88. We chose this one because we are all going through something and suffering in our own way. Give this episode a listen and don't forget to read your Bible and pray. We hope you have a wonderful week!

May 14, 202546 min

Top 10 Psalms: Psalm 112

It has been a minute loyal fans since we posted. Wow! Talk about a min, am I right!? Well do we have a treat for you today! We here at Old Sinners New Saints don't just have one episode to post, or just two, or just three!!! Call us crazy, but we have FOUR glorious episodes to post starting with Psalm 112. Psalm 112 is a Psalm of comfort in which those who fear God are praised for their good life and are promised eternal comfort against all trouble. Come join us on this episode today and remember to share this show with some friends, collegues and neighbors. We thank all of you out there and hope you all have a blessed week!

May 14, 202550 min

Top 10 Psalms: Psalm 46

Psalm 46...WOOOOOOO!!! Love this episode and love this Psalm even more because it is a Psalm of thanks! And I love prasing our Lord and Savior. "The 46th Psalm is a Psalm of thanks, sung by the people of Israel becuase of the mighty deeds of God. He had protected and saved the city of Jerusalem, in which was His dwelling, against all the rage and the fury of all the kings and the nations and preserved their peace agasint all warfare and weapons (Martin Luther)." Press play and enjoy this weeks episode. Please continue to pray for the growth of the show becuase we love doing this each week. Have a blessed week everyone!!!

Apr 16, 202536 min

Top 10 Psalms: Psalm 51 Part 2

Happy April everyone!!! April?!...Man, where does the time go? We are happy to post Part 2 of Psalm 51. We love that you are here listening and we would even more to hear from you. Please reach out to us at [email protected] anytime. Have a blessed week everyone!!!

Apr 3, 202543 min

Top 10 Psalms: Psalm 51 Part 1

Hello everyone!!! Hope everyone is havinga fabulous week! I'm sitting here listening to motivational speech clips online getting pumped for the rest of the day! However, nothing gets me more energized and excited to seize the day than the living word of God. Today's episode is all about Psalm 51 and boy oh boy...what a Psalm this is. Put in those headphones or turn up that volume on your stero, press play and listen to Ben and I do a little digging into Psalm 51. Love you guys and hope you have a wonderful week! P.S. Full disclosure, I wanted to do Psalm 56, but text Ben "51" so we did an epidsode on that lol. Still a fantastic Psalm and one of my favorites!!!

Mar 12, 202542 min

Top 10 Psalms: Psalm 34 Part 2

Without further ado...Part 2! You know, I always knew I was a pretty good lyracist, however never knew I could rhyme that well. Just messing around. Reach out because we would love to hear from you at [email protected] or on IG. Soon to be on Youtube WOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!). Hope you enjoy. Have a blessed week!!!

Feb 28, 202535 min

Top 10 Psalms: Psalm 34 Part 1

Hello everyone!!! New week, same message...we love Jesus and we hope you grow in your love and relationship with him too! We are here, smack dab in the middle of our "Top 10 Psalms" recording with two amazing episodes back to back. We loved recording and talking about Psalm 34. So much so that we split it into two episodes for your listening enjoyment. Please continue to listen, like, follow and especially share the show with people around you. We love all you listeners, appreciate every listen and engagement with you and we hope you have a wonderful week!!! P.S. Please continue to pray for the success of the show and that God uses this show to reach who it needs to reach. We absolutely love doing this and most importantly, we love talking about our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.

Feb 28, 202537 min

Top 10 Psalms: Psalm 23

Psalm 23...Here we go! We are glad you joined us this week for another episode of OSNS. Today we cover Psalm 23 and we have a great time doing it despite being under the weather. Something is going around again so stay healthy everybody and have a wonderful week. Don't forget to read your Bible!!! P.S. This week is episode 50! That's half way to 100!!! Please keep us and the show in your prayers because every episode we record is a dream come true!

Feb 16, 202532 min

Top 10 Psalms: Psalm 15

Woooooooooooo! Look at us getting better at recording and posting in a timely fasion. I neglected my houshold and parenting duties this week, but who cares?! Another brand new episode from your favorite, 30 min, Christian, somewhere is California show as posted to all major platforms! Party time! Join us this week as Ben and I continue our first series of 2025, "Top 10 Psalms" with Psalm 15. We have so much fun and joy creating and recording so hopefully that continues to translate over the airways. We'd love to hear from you so reach out to us anytime at [email protected] or on IG at the same name. Have a blessed week everyone! P.S. Please continue to listen and share the show. We are building slowly but surely because of you guys. It's all in the Lord's time, and we wouldn't want it any other way.

Feb 6, 202533 min

Top 10 Psalms: Psalm 1

Hello everybody (in a Lauren Daigle voice)!!! Welcome to today's episode in which we are very excited about. We started off the new year with a brainstorming meeting and Ben had the amazing idea for a series; Top 10 Psalms! I was so excited to do some deep dives into the Psalms because I just read through them and I love them so much!!! However, when reading the word of God there is always something new to uncover. As the Lord says in Proverbs 27:17, "As iron sharpens iron, so one person shaprens another," and I could not be more excited not only to be sitting across from my brother Ben, but to be learning from him as well. As you press play we hope you enjoy and learn something new. Please don't forget to reach out to us at [email protected] or on Instagram. We would love to hear from you. Have a blessed week everyone!!!

Jan 31, 202529 min

Thank You For Listening

Welcome in! On Today's (well not really today's, actaully months back we recorded this, but I got distracted and didn't post it, anyways moving on) epidsode, Ben and I have a glorious discusion about how to be thankful for all the Good Lord has provided. And of course most importantly what the Bible says about being thankful. We hope you are enjoying the show, but more importantly we pray that all our listeners are finding more time to spend with our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ. Read your Bible People. Have blessed week everyone!!! P.S. Stay tuned because we have a ten part series on the way in which we dig into our favorite Plsams.

Jan 28, 202535 min

Discernment

Ok, there were no puns or funny titles I could come up with on the fly for "Discerment." Fee free to email us your title ideas at [email protected]. New year, new topic, same everlasting God we love and worship. Please join us on today's episode as we cover the topic of discernment. Thank you to all you loyal listerns of 2024. Please help spread the show and help us grow in 2025, becasue we love doing this. More importantly, we love talking about our Lord and Savior...Jesus Christ.

Jan 1, 202539 min

Peanut Butter and Jealous

Episode 45 everyone!!!!!!! Wooooooooo!!!! As Ben said, not your typical topic for this time of the year, but it came up so we ran with it. Tune in to this weeks episode and join us to see what the Good Bood says about jealousy. If you have an extra mintue please reach out to us. We'd love to hear from you via IG or email at [email protected]. Have a blessed week everyone!!!

Dec 28, 202432 min

Addictions

Hello everyone! Welcome into another episode of Old Sinners New Saints and on this amazing week we are covering the topic of addictions [insert Law and Order sound bite]. We all have something we care about a little too much or should I say, we all have something we place above God from time to time. Usually for me, that's something that I am addicted to and I need to go to the Father above for guidence, help and love. Listen in and say "hello" to us on IG and via email at [email protected]. Have a blesssed week everyone!!!

Dec 22, 202433 min

Breaking Bad

Are you like us, always on the go with no rest. Are you in need of...Breaking Bad? Get it? Like we need a break, bad? [Insert laughing emogi please]. Well, today Ben and I look towards the best book of all time, the living word of God, the one, the only Bible to see what the good Lord says about rest. Come join us on today's episodic adventure with two guys who don't have much going on, but Love Jesus dearly. Please continue to follow, like, subscribe and especially share with neighbors, family and friends. May you have a blessed week everyone! P.S. Cam...you need to listen to this one. Don't forget to smash that "like" button.

Nov 12, 202446 min

Swing Vote

Hello everyone! We're back with another episode and this time we are heading into election Tuesday!!! Some people I've talked to are excited about November 5th. Most seem angry. Others just want it be over. Which ever way your vote may go and as hard as it may be, we can not forget to treat each other with love, kidness and respect. Give this episode a try as we dig deep into the Bible on how to treat people in these turbulent times. Remember to recommend this show to a family member or friend and keep us going. Have a blessed week everyone! P.S. Don't forget to vote!!!

Nov 5, 202433 min

Office Space

Hello loyal listeners! Hope everyone is having a fabulous day. Ok, we're going to rip the band aid off really quick. Today's episode is about work. Yes...we'ere going to talk about work. What does it mean to be a good Christian in your work environment? Thank you again for listening. Please don't forget to like, follow, subscibe and share with all your friends and family. May you have a blessed week. P.S. Don't forget to read your bible folks!

Oct 30, 202434 min

Mission Impossible

Alright everyone, the moment you've been waiting for is finally here. Just kidding. This episode is one a million my friends because I was blessed with a once in a lifetime opportinity to travel to Turkey on my first mission trip ever!!! AHHHHHHHH!!! I still get so excited thinking about it. Please join us on today's episode as we recap a mission trip to the wonderful city of Torbali and our overwhelming love for Jesus. Have a blessed and amazing week everyone!!! P.S. Sorry for the gaps in recordings. Ben and I are trying to juggle many hats as they say, but our first hat and greatest love is for our Father who is in Heaven. Glory be to God.

Oct 12, 202453 min

That's a Tempting Offer

Hello everyone! Yes, there is a double post this week! We are trying to get back on track and then some. This week Ben and I discuss the topic of temptation again. This is going to be a very big ongoing topic. Why?...well because I struggle a lot with it and I need help lol Who doesn't struggle with temptation. There is only one person who lived a perfect life and his name was Jesus Christ. Come, join us and listen to today's episode. Please help us grow and recommened this future Dove Award winning show to family and freinds. Hope everyone has a blessed week!

Sep 15, 202438 min

Body of Evidence

We are back loyal listeners!!! Ben had a vacation. I'm going on vacation, but we are never too busy to record and spread the Gospel of Jesus Christ! Ever wonder or ask yourself, "is there proof of the existence of God?" Well have we got the perfect episode for you. Come listen to Ben and I re-recored a magnificent entertaining episode (because on the first try I forgot to press the record button...Sorry Ben!). As always, please rate us, find us on Instagram and like and subscribe on Spotify and all major podcast platforms. Hope everyone has a blessed week!!!

Sep 13, 202438 min

Animal Control

Hello friends and family! Please join us this week for another amazing episode in which we discuss another important topic of animals and the Bible. Now we know a lot of you have great relationships with your pets, so please don't cancel us over this episode. If you do have any hate mail, please send it to [email protected]. Just kidding folks...complenentary emails only please. Have a blessed week everyone! P.S. Don't forget to read the Bible.

Jul 20, 202433 min

Top 5 Bible Versus

Oh man oh man have I been waiting patiently to record this epside! I just could not wait to have a blast recording this and to find out what Ben's Top 5 Bible versus are as well as share mine. Hopefully you have as fun time listening to this as we did recording it. Thank you to all you amazing listeners. We'd love to hear from you, even if you just want to say "Hello." Please reach out to us on IG at Oldsinnersnewsaints (we have very few posts, but we're working at it) or [email protected]. Have a blessed week everyone. Enjoy!!!

Jul 9, 202453 min

Who is Jesus? Part 2

Well for those fans of you with a keen eye then yes, last episode was a Part 1. So here is Part 2 to start your week off right. More bang for your buck!! Double whammy!!! We had so mucn fun recording this episode so hopefully you enjoy listening to it as well. Press play and join us on the journey of answering the question, "Who is Jesus?"...Part Deux.

Jun 30, 202434 min

Who is Jesus? Part 1

Happy Sunday everyone! Hopefully everyone has had a good week. Please join us on this weeks episode as we dare to ask a very important question...Who is Jesus? Through my couple years as a Christian (man how time flies) I never really stopped to ask this deep yet very vital question. Well, Ben proposed the question and here is the amazing episode. Have a blessed week everyone!!!

Jun 30, 202443 min