#13: The Linux of Social Media w/ hzrd149

"The identity should be outside of the computer."

hzrd149 & Gigi contemplate local relays.

Libraries & apps mentioned:

• Applesauce
• Boris
• Citrine
• nostr-relay-tray

In this dialogue:

• Automation & robot armies
• If this than that (IFTTT)
• Permissioned vs permissionless automation
• Self-hosting and the local-first people
• "The identity should be outside of the computer"
• Private vs public, local vs remote
• DRM and other nonsense
• Private means encrypted with my key
• Nostr apps should be local-first, thanks to local relays
• All nostr apps should work in flight mode, somewhat
• Outbox model, writing, and reading 
• Search & NIP-50 
• Ants & thisishowyougetants.com 
• 6 degrees of separation & FoaF
• WoT 
• Friend list curation & "circles" 
• "Don't touch my follow list"
• Bootstrapping a network by saying GM a lot
• Recommendations usually suck
• Nostr can shine
• Vertex & figuring out who John is
• NIP-05 & realness
• Root-level domains & realness (e.g. @dergigi.com)
• Zaps & realness
• Nutzaps & realness 
• Local-first & local algorithms 
• nostrdb VS local relays 
• Local data & relevancy 
• noDNS, locality, local preference, and "good enough" 
• Mostly online vs mostly offline 
• "Servers aren't bad. Getting rugpulled is bad."
• "Information is easy to spread but hard to stifle" 
• Local hubs, community hubs, global hubs
• "nostr was built for broadcasting" 
• Building stuff badly & nerd-sniping people
• Gigi's ants video 
• Walking in circles 
• DM metadata leakage 
• "It shouldn't matter where the data comes from" 
• "Deleting data is a lie" 
• The impossibility of proving deletion 
• Bitrot & data loss
• Fighting bitrot with duplication & rebroadcasting 
• Bouquet, blossom, and self-healing links
• Local-first vs local-also 
• Left-side of the bellcurve CDN 
• The one whale relay 
• Topic-based relays 
• fiatjaf's pyramid relay
• Torrents, early video content, game installers 
• fiatjaf’s take on IPFS 
• Why not rebuild Cloudflare? 
• Censorship-resistance = 100% uptime = no rugpulls 
• Getting offered weed on the streets 
• Every app works in flight mode
• No developer needs an API key 
• "The data accumulates where it needs to accumulate" 
• Browser history as an example of local data & user interests 
• WoT is kinda local 
• wot.dergigi.com 
• Blossom is different; blobs are heavy 
• American HODL's vlogs 
• "Step 1 is to build a shitty version" 
• HAVEN 
• Nostr Repair Kit (Nostr pacemaker) 
• Shout-out to Pablo's highlighter (fucking hell) 
• Open-source & scratching your own itch 
• Applesauce v4
• "It's almost done" - famous last words! 
• Outbox in applesauce, and how it makes everything more difficult 
• Waves, routstr, Pete, Justin, Paul, Gzuuus 
• Hzrd's SEC-05 highlights 
• noDNS
• Wally & Cashu Wallet Connect 
• Crazy idea => Consensus => Implementation 
• Difference between idea & implementation
• "Domains are shitcoins" 
• We've been living in a post-domain world for a while 
• Independent browsers & project Ladybird 
• Nostr-native browser - who will build it? 
• "A different way of doing internet infrastructure" 
• Is a world without APIs possible? 
• Mainframe => Personal Computer => Smartphones 
• Online sometimes => Offline sometimes 
• Local LLMs
• Nostr allows you to build less
• Thin layers & special-purpose apps 
• NIP-60 and finding spare change under the couch 
• Does negentropy fix NIP-60 synchronization? 
• Nostr is synergistic 
• The beauty of nostr-relay-tray
• Nostr works. We've come far!
• It's all coming together
• Boris
• "You can always go back and build it right"
• Just begin again.
• Just begin again.
• Just begin again.

Recorded at 917,886.