No Nonsense Agile Leadership

Join Murray Robinson and Shane Gibson as they talk with Rich Mironov about the problem with sales led development. It’s easy for B2B enterprise companies to fall into a sales lead development model where the majority of development work is customisation starving the core product of resources for innovation, new features, quality improvements and technical resilience. The end result is frustrated product development and engineering teams, uninspiring products, low profitability, slow growth and difficulty getting investment. Fixing it requires product leaders to help executives understand that the economics of a product and service business are very different and they need to change their behaviour accordingly. Listen to the podcast on your favourite podcast app: | Spotify | Apple Podcasts | Google Podcasts | iHeart Radio | PlayerFM | Amazon Music | Listen Notes | TuneIn | Audible | Podchaser | Connect with Rich on LinkedIn or at https://www.mironov.com/sales-led/ Contact Murray via email or Shane on LinkedIn shagility. The No Nonsense Agile Podcast is sponsored by: Simply Magical Data

Join Murray Robinson and Shane Gibson as they talk with Donna Spencer from Maker X about user experience design in empowered product teams. We discuss user research, information architecture, and visual design. And the problem with the way UX is often done in traditional teams and agile teams. We discuss the value of having a UX person embedded in a product team and the responsibility UX designers have to educate other members of the team in UX. And finally, we talk about UX design models. The problem with design sprints and the value of evolving your design over time by going broad and going narrow. Listen to the podcast on your favourite podcast app: | Spotify | Apple Podcasts | Google Podcasts | iHeart Radio | PlayerFM | Amazon Music | Listen Notes | TuneIn | Audible | Podchaser | Connect with Donna on LinkedIn or at https://maadmob.com.au/ Contact Murray via email or Shane on LinkedIn shagility. The No Nonsense Agile Podcast is sponsored by: Simply Magical Data

Join Murray Robinson and Shane Gibson as they talk with Al Shalloway about Amplio and the movement back to pattern libraries to improve knowledge work. As lean and agile have become commercialised they've become rigid, bureaucratic frameworks that disempower teams and prevent us from improving. Pattern libraries set us free. When we learn patterns like the concept of bottlenecks we are able to see things in our world that we couldn't see before Listen to the podcast on your favourite podcast app: | Spotify | Apple Podcasts | Google Podcasts | iHeart Radio | PlayerFM | Amazon Music | Listen Notes | TuneIn | Audible | Podchaser | Connect with Al on LinkedIn or at https://successengineering.works/ Contact Murray via email or Shane on LinkedIn shagility. The No Nonsense Agile Podcast is sponsored by: Simply Magical Data

Join Murray Robinson and Shane Gibson as they talk with Jim Benson, author of personal Kanban, about his new book, the collaboration equation. Jim describes how Kanban allows teams to focus and see bottlenecks so they can resolve them. He explains how organizations starve people of information, safety and purpose and describes how to build collaborative systems that give people the information they need to make better decisions which will in turn, make their companies much more effective, innovative, and resilient. Listen to the podcast on your favourite podcast app: | Spotify | Apple Podcasts | Google Podcasts | iHeart Radio | PlayerFM | Amazon Music | Listen Notes | TuneIn | Audible | Podchaser | Connect with Jim on LinkedIn or at https://www.modusinstitute.net/ Contact Murray via email or Shane on LinkedIn shagility. The No Nonsense Agile Podcast is sponsored by: Simply Magical Data

Join Murray Robinson and Shane Gibson as they chat about their experience with start ups and scale-ups venture capitalists and corporate innovation. We talk about manager's fear of innovation, innovation theatre, and some models that organisations could use to be far more innovative than they are now. Listen to the podcast on your favourite podcast app: | Spotify | Apple Podcasts | Google Podcasts | iHeart Radio | PlayerFM | Amazon Music | Listen Notes | TuneIn | Audible | Podchaser | Contact Murray via email or Shane on LinkedIn shagility. The No Nonsense Agile Podcast is sponsored by: Simply Magical Data

Join Murray Robinson and Shane Gibson as they discuss mission command with Eric Lopez, a management consultant, CEO and retired US Army Colonel who commanded troops in Iraq and Afghanistan. Eric explains how mission command allows leaders to decentralize tactical decisions so that people on the ground can take initiative to achieve the mission in a volatile and uncertain environment. Mission command helps leaders become much more agile in a rapidly changing world. Listen to the podcast on your favourite podcast app: | Spotify | Apple Podcasts | Google Podcasts | iHeart Radio | PlayerFM | Amazon Music | Listen Notes | TuneIn | Audible | Podchaser | Connect with Eric on LinkedIn or at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlDNvnmQ05c Contact Murray via email or Shane on LinkedIn shagility. The No Nonsense Agile Podcast is sponsored by: Simply Magical Data

Join Murray Robinson and Shane Gibson in a conversation with Teresa Torres, a product coach, speaker, and author of continuous discovery habits. She explains how product managers, designers, and software engineers can use continuous discovery to ensure that they're building the right product and continuously improving it over time. In this interview, you'll learn to balance action with research so that you can get started without being blindsided by what you don't get right. If you want to discover products that customers love that deliver valuable business results. Then this interview is for you. Listen to the podcast on your favourite podcast app: | Spotify | Apple Podcasts | Google Podcasts | iHeart Radio | PlayerFM | Amazon Music | Listen Notes | TuneIn | Audible | Podchaser | Connect with Teressa on LinkedIn or at https://producttalk.org/ Contact Murray via email or Shane on LinkedIn shagility. The No Nonsense Agile Podcast is sponsored by: Simply Magical Data

Join Murray Robinson and Shane Gibson in a conversation with Dan Olson, author of the lean product development playbook. A practical guide to building products that customers love. Most new products fail on most new features are rarely used. Dan describes a practical six step process to improve your chances of building successful products. Listen to the podcast on your favourite podcast app: | Spotify | Apple Podcasts | Google Podcasts | iHeart Radio | PlayerFM | Amazon Music | Listen Notes | TuneIn | Audible | Podchaser | Connect with Dan on LinkedIn or at https://dan-olsen.com/ Contact Murray via email or Shane on LinkedIn shagility. The No Nonsense Agile Podcast is sponsored by: Simply Magical Data

Join Murray Robinson and Shane Gibson in a conversation with Anabela Cesário VP of product ops at OutSystems, a low code development platform. Anabela describes what product ops is and how her team mentors, coaches, supports and trains 25 product managers. From setting up the product board tool to training people in continuous discovery, providing standard data for product reporting and managing the company's strategic product planning and reporting process. Listen to the podcast on your favourite podcast app: | Spotify | Apple Podcasts | Google Podcasts | iHeart Radio | PlayerFM | Amazon Music | Listen Notes | TuneIn | Audible | Podchaser | Connect with Anabela on LinkedIn Contact Murray via email or Shane on LinkedIn shagility. The No Nonsense Podcast is sponsored by: Simply Magical Data

Join Murray Robinson and Shane Gibson in a conversation with Jonathan Hall about implementing Continuous Delivery. CI/CD requires a level of test automation that seems impossible for most organisations. Jonathan describes a practical implementation path to CI/CD that everyone can do. Start by changing the role of QA to focus on pairing with developers to write good automated tests. Automate tests for all of your code changes, bug fixes and change regression testing. Automate your deployment and rollback tests. Test your changes one at a time against a fresh copy of production. Fix all defects and broken tests immediately. This will allow you to move to full CI/CD over time. And that will allow you to learn and produce results much faster and more efficiently. Listen to the podcast on your favourite podcast app: | Spotify | Apple Podcasts | Google Podcasts | iHeart Radio | PlayerFM | Amazon Music | Listen Notes | TuneIn | Audible | Podchaser | Connect with Jonathan on LinkedIn or follow him at jhall.io Contact Murray via email or Shane on LinkedIn shagility. The No Nonsense Podcast is sponsored by: Simply Magical Data

Join Murray Robinson and Shane Gibson in a conversation with Jeff Gothelf about Lean UX and Sense and Respond. Lean UX explains how to do UX design and product development in a highly agile way. The core of Lean UX is the canvas, a facilitation tool for collaboratively collecting and testing product hypotheses. The key output is a prioritised backlog of discovery experiments. Sense and respond is a management book that explains how to organise and support agile product teams and encourage agile product and UX design thinking. It explains how to continuously research, design and development to maximise learning and value. Dual Track means that one team with one backlog does research, design and delivery work simultaneously with the same team in the same iteration. A lot of discovery stories should result in no further development. Higher-level planning should be done with outcome-focused product roadmaps, not lists of features. Outcomes, not outputs. Collaboration, not authority. Continuous discovery, not upfront design. Cross-functional product teams, not specialised research and design functions. Listen to the podcast on your favourite podcast app: | Spotify | Apple Podcasts | Google Podcasts | iHeart Radio | PlayerFM | Amazon Music | Listen Notes | TuneIn | Audible | Podchaser | Connect with Jeff on LinkedIn or follow him at JeffGothelf.com Contact Murray via email or Shane on LinkedIn shagility. The No Nonsense Podcast is sponsored by: Simply Magical Data

Join Murray Robinson and Shane Gibson in a conversation with Adam Thomas about Product Survival Metrics. Empower the product team to make decisions quickly in uncertain situations by negotiating clear boundaries for the product team. Negotiate boundaries with stakeholders early. Use data to track your progress. When your heading towards a boundary make decisions to stop, pivot or invest. Product development is not a linear path. Agile product development is not a methodology that you buy it's a way of working that you find. Use decision journals to document and review decisions. Listen to the podcast on your favourite podcast app: | Spotify | Apple Podcasts | Google Podcasts | iHeart Radio | PlayerFM | Amazon Music | Listen Notes | TuneIn | Audible | Podchaser | Connect with Adam on LinkedIn or follow him at https://www.theadamthomas.com/ Contact Murray via email or Shane on LinkedIn shagility. The No Nonsense Podcast is sponsored by: Simply Magical Data

Join Murray Robinson and Shane Gibson in a conversation with Christian Crumlish about the intersection between UX Design and Product Management. The risk of designing the wrong product is high. Customer research reduces that risk and uncertainty early. Product Development is a process of continuously learning, building and adapting. You can start anywhere in the cycle if you keep looping through it. Good products come from cross-functional product teams that are focused on measurable outcomes. Be outcome-focused rather than output-focused. One team rather than silos. Empowered teams rather than bureaucracies. Tailor your design process for your situation rather than religiously following a framework. Let the problem lead you to the solution. Product Managers facilitate constant communication between stakeholders, customers, designers and engineers. Retrospectives are a powerful way to improve. Listen to the podcast on your favourite podcast app: | Spotify | Apple Podcasts | Google Podcasts | iHeart Radio | PlayerFM | Amazon Music | Listen Notes | TuneIn | Audible | Podchaser | Connect with Christian on LinkedIn or follow him at https://designinproduct.com/ Contact Murray via email or Shane on LinkedIn shagility. The No Nonsense Podcast is sponsored by: Simply Magical Data

Join Murray Robinson and Shane Gibson in a conversation with Willem-Jan Ageling about agile project management and leadership. A good leader focuses on the goal and the people and provides the support the team need to get there. Common anti-patterns are promising things the team can't deliver: disempowerment, micro-management, bureacratic processes, ignoring organisational blockers, watermelon reporting and pretending to be agile while reinforcing the bureaucracy. Agile is a big change. Leaders need agile training, mentoring and coaching; otherwise, they won't get it. And if they don't support agile, they will undermine it. Find the leaders who are frustrated with the bureaucracy and show them that an agile approach is a more reliable way of delivering valuable outcomes that help the organisation survive. Be outcome focused in your agile coaching. And remember that we are doing this to help the organisation thrive, not for its own sake. Listen to the podcast on your favourite podcast app: | Spotify | Apple Podcasts | Google Podcasts | iHeart Radio | PlayerFM | Amazon Music | Listen Notes | TuneIn | Audible | Podchaser | Connect with Willem-Jan on LinkedIn or follow him at https://medium.com/serious-scrum or https://www.seriousscrum.com/ Contact Murray via email or Shane on LinkedIn shagility. The No Nonsense Podcast is sponsored by: Simply Magical Data

Join Murray Robinson and Shane Gibson in a conversation with Bryan Finster about Continuous Delivery and SAFe. Continuous delivery improves quality, productivity, value, and developers' lives. It reduces the cost of change so we can experiment and learn rapidly. Focus on improving your process so that you can deploy working solutions every day. Ship one very small feature and see if it has value. Start with the minimum viable Continuous Delivery activities. Solving these activities is the improvement journey. Never bypass the deployment pipeline. If the process doesn't work, fix the process. Organise your teams around domain boundaries. Run CD Dojos. SAFE is bad because everything is tightly coupled, which means you're as fast as your slowest team. A 90-day plan is a bad plan. We don't need a release train engineer when we have a CD pipeline. Listen to the podcast on your favourite podcast app: | Spotify | Apple Podcasts | Google Podcasts | iHeart Radio | PlayerFM | Amazon Music | Listen Notes | TuneIn | Audible | Podchaser | Connect with Bryan on LinkedIn Contact Murray via email or Shane on LinkedIn shagility. The No Nonsense Podcast is sponsored by: Simply Magical Data

Join Murray Robinson and Shane Gibson in a conversation with Scott Baldwin from Productboard. We need to shift our focus from features shipped to value created because most of the features we build arent used. We can harvest customer feedback from everybody that engages with customers to find the problems that need to be solved. Put those proposals into an ideas backlog and research them to determine value to the customer, value to the organisation, technical feasibility and cost before you build them. Develop high value features step by step, testing validity as we go. A product manager is like an orchestra conductor. Establish outcome based success metrics for your product. Bring engineers and designers into the process early and often. Present evidence to stakeholders. Prioritise based on objectives and success measures. You should talk to real customers every week. Listen to the podcast on your favourite podcast app: | Spotify | Apple Podcasts | Google Podcasts | iHeart Radio | PlayerFM | Amazon Music | Listen Notes | TuneIn | Audible | Podchaser | Connect with Scott on LinkedIn Contact Murray via email or Shane on LinkedIn shagility. The No Nonsense Podcast is sponsored by: Simply Magical Data

Join Murray Robinson and Shane Gibson in a conversation with Chris Butler about agile Product Management at Microsoft, Facebook and Google. Three core things, that product managers should do. Wrangle uncertainty, help stakeholders make good decisions and build alignment through communication with roadmaps, strategy documents, priorities and specifications. The difference between a Product Manager, Product Owner and Project Manager. Dealing with uncertainty. Map your assumptions and test them with qualitative research. Develop a strategy. Determine value. Decide what to do. Power dynamics. Hippos. Product Operations. Lean UX and Continuous Discovery. How to work with engineering teams. Product Management Patterns. Copying vs learning. Product Canvases. Listen to the podcast on your favourite podcast app: | Spotify | Apple Podcasts | Google Podcasts | iHeart Radio | PlayerFM | Amazon Music | Listen Notes | TuneIn | Audible | Podchaser | Connect with Chris on LinkedIn Contact Murray via email or Shane on LinkedIn shagility. The No Nonsense Podcast is sponsored by: Simply Magical Data

Join Murray Robinson and Shane Gibson in a conversation with Matthew Skelton about Team topologies. Siloed bureaucracies are too slow and inefficient in a fast moving agile world built on software. Use the Team Topologies patterns to redesign your organization for focused fast flow. Understanding Value Stream Aligned teams, Enabling Teams, Core Subsystem Teams and Platform teams. And the Collaboration, facilitation and Service interaction models. Cognitive load. Iteratively design your organization with the people doing the work. Listen to the podcast on your favourite podcast app: | Spotify | Apple Podcasts | Google Podcasts | iHeart Radio | PlayerFM | Amazon Music | Listen Notes | TuneIn | Audible | Podchaser | Connect with Matthew on LinkedIn Contact Murray via email or Shane on LinkedIn shagility. The No Nonsense Podcast is sponsored by: Simply Magical Data

Join Murray Robinson and Shane Gibson in a conversation with Sandy Mamoli about building great teams. Why do some teams perform well and others perform poorly. The importance of skill, trust, respect, collaboration common purpose, constructive feedback and continuous improvement. How to deal with toxic experts and charming slackers in the team. The benefits of allowing people to choose their own teams. How to run a self selection event. Coaching managers to improve the system the team is working in. Allowing teams to select their own managers. The poor state of Agile and the problem with SAFE. Listen to the podcast on your favourite podcast app: | Spotify | Apple Podcasts | Google Podcasts | iHeart Radio | PlayerFM | Amazon Music | Listen Notes | TuneIn | Audible | Podchaser | Connect with Sandy on LinkedIn Contact Murray via email or Shane on LinkedIn shagility. The No Nonsense Podcast is sponsored by: Simply Magical Data

Join Murray Robinson and Shane Gibson in a conversation with Simon Wardley about Wardley maps. Wardely maps are a discussion tool that surfaces assumptions about competitive landscapes. Starting with the customer, we draw the value chain of components that we need to meet their goal and then identify what stage each component is in the evolutionary lifecycle. Is a component a custom build, a product or service or a commodity or utility. When there is a competitive market everything moves to become a high volume, low cost standardised commodity over time. Understanding this allows you to get ahead of the wave of market change and it allows you to identify enormous cost savings by using utility services like AWS instead of building your own data centre. Listen to the podcast on your favourite podcast app: | Spotify | Apple Podcasts | Google Podcasts | iHeart Radio | PlayerFM | Amazon Music | Listen Notes | TuneIn | Audible | Podchaser | Connect with Simon on LinkedIn Read Simons draft book for free at https://medium.com/wardleymaps Contact Murray via email or Shane in the Twitter-sphere @shagility. The No Nonsense Podcast is sponsored by: Simply Magical Data

Join Murray Robinson and Shane Gibson in a conversation about assessing the agile capability of individuals, teams and partners. A lot of people and companies in the agile and software development space exaggerate their capability. Certifications and big brand names don't tell you much. What really matters is experience and a commitment to ongoing learning. Asking people to explain what they would do in real scenarios. You can tell whose an expert by asking them about the strengths and weaknesses of various approaches. Don't rely on big name professional services firms and consulting firms. Invest in improving your own teams capabilities. Use an apprenticeship and mentoring system. Encourage people and teams to learn and try new things. Listen to the podcast on your favourite podcast app: | Spotify | Apple Podcasts | Google Podcasts | iHeart Radio | PlayerFM | Amazon Music | Listen Notes | TuneIn | Audible | Podchaser | Contact Murray via email or Shane in the Twitter-sphere @shagility. The No Nonsense Podcast is sponsored by: Simply Magical Data

Join Murray Robinson and Shane Gibson in a conversation about Outcome-Driven Innovation with Tony Ulwick. Most products fail in the market because they don't meet customers' needs better than the alternatives. To succeed, we need to study the problem that customers are trying to solve, the process they use to solve it and the metrics they use to measure success. When we understand the job to be done and the outcomes to achieve, we can design a product that meets those outcomes significantly better than our competitors and be sure to win in the marketplace. Product Design, Innovation, Jobs to be done, Customer Research. Listen to the podcast on your favourite podcast app: | Spotify | Apple Podcasts | Google Podcasts | iHeart Radio | PlayerFM | Amazon Music | Listen Notes | TuneIn | Audible | Podchaser | Connect with Tony on LinkedIn or https://medium.com/@Ulwick And get Tony’s Jobs to be done Book for free at https://jobs-to-be-done-book.com/ Contact Murray via email or Shane in the Twitter-sphere @shagility. The No Nonsense Podcast is sponsored by: Simply Magical Data

Join Murray Robinson and Shane Gibson in a conversation about UX design with Debbie Levitt. UX Design is research based information architecture and interaction design that requires deep expertise. Most agile teams are feature factories that build things that don't satisfy customers. Product Managers and Engineers don't have the skills and experience required to do good UX Design. The democratisation, decentralisation and prototype first approach advocated by Lean Startup, Lean UX and Marty Cagan is garbage. Design Thinking is light weight rubbish that doesn't work. Agile doesn't work for Design. UX Design should be done by UX experts in a functional team of at least five that works alongside product and engineering in a tri track agile approach. This interview is much longer than usual because Debbie asked us to do minimal editing to allow her to fully express her views. Listen to the podcast on your favourite podcast app: | Spotify | Apple Podcasts | Google Podcasts | iHeart Radio | PlayerFM | Amazon Music | Listen Notes | TuneIn | Audible | Podchaser | Connect with Debbie on LinkedIn or https://deltacx.com/links/ Contact Murray via email or Shane in the Twitter-sphere @shagility. The No Nonsense Podcast is sponsored by: Simply Magical Data

Join Murray Robinson and Shane Gibson in a conversation about Software Metrics with Tom Gilb. Tom Gilb inspired the authors of the Agile manifesto with his innovative incremental and scientific approach to Software Engineering. In this podcast we talk about Evo and Value Agile. Defining your scope with objectives and success metrics. How to measure anything. Why feature backlogs are a waste of time. Being laser focused on outcomes. How to deliver as much value as possible in the time and budget available. Tom has kindly offered free access to podcast listeners to a raft of his books. Find a list of download links here: https://agiledata.io/podcast/no-nonsense-agile-podcast/software-metrics/ Listen to the podcast on your favourite podcast app: | Spotify | Apple Podcasts | Google Podcasts | iHeart Radio | PlayerFM | Amazon Music | Listen Notes | TuneIn | Audible | Podchaser | Connect with Tom on LinkedIn or https://www.gilb.com/blog. Contact Murray via email or Shane in the Twitter-sphere @shagility. The No Nonsense Podcast is sponsored by: Simply Magical Data

Join Murray Robinson and Shane Gibson in a conversation about agile anti patterns with Todd Lankford. Patterns are common solutions to common problems. They may be good, bad or neutral. Agile anti patterns are solutions that make it harder for agile teams to achieve the goal. The top anti patterns are: unrealistic arbitrary deadlines, functional silos and managers who dont listen to or support their teams. Other anti patterns. Pattern languages and pattern libraries. Listen to the podcast on your favourite podcast app: | Spotify | Apple Podcasts | Google Podcasts | iHeart Radio | PlayerFM | Amazon Music | Listen Notes | TuneIn | Audible | Podchaser | Connect with Todd on LinkedIn or https://coachlankford.com/ https://ktlankford.medium.com/, Murray via email or Shane in the Twitter-sphere @shagility. The No Nonsense Podcast is sponsored by: Simply Magical Data

Join Murray Robinson and Shane Gibson in a conversation about Agile as a paradigm shift with Erik de Bos. Most organisations are slow moving bureaucracies defined by authoritarian hierarchies, rules and contracts. Agile is a completely new way of thinking and a new vocabulary which makes new concepts and information available. Agile is part of a broader social movement that's about workplace democracy, experimentation, change, empowerment, decentralisation and local ownership that is changing how our society works for the better. Its an evolution that produces organisations that are fast, flexible and lean. And in an uncertain and rapidly changing international world nimble organizations are far more likely to survive and grow than traditional bureaucracies. Listen to the podcast on your favourite podcast app: | Spotify | Apple Podcasts | Google Podcasts | iHeart Radio | PlayerFM | Amazon Music | Listen Notes | TuneIn | Audible | Podchaser | Connect with Erik on LinkedIn or https://medium.com/@bosskieman, Murray via email or Shane in the Twitter-sphere @shagility. The No Nonsense Podcast is sponsored by: Simply Magical Data

Join Murray Robinson and Shane Gibson in a conversation about effective agile product teams. Business people and technical people work together daily in one long-lasting customer-focused team. Roles vs Skills. The power of words. Do titles create hierarchy and functional silos within the team? T-shaped people. Should everyone be a developer? Are specialised rol eavyweight waterfall process. And how innovation is happening outside the traditional agile bubble. And lastly, we talk about agile leadership. If you're interested in getting to the heart of agile and exploring business agility. This is a conversation you don't want to miss. Listen to the podcast on your favourite podcast app: | Spotify | Apple Podcasts | Google Podcasts | iHeart Radio | PlayerFM | Amazon Music | Listen Notes | TuneIn | Audible | Podchaser | Deezer | Podcast Addict | Contact Murray via email or Shane on LinkedIn shagility. You can read the podcast transcript at: https://agiledata.io/podcast/no-nonsense-agile-podcast/team-skills-vs-roles/#read The No Nonsense Podcast is sponsored by: Simply Magical Data

Join Murray Robinson and Shane Gibson in a conversation with Staffan Noteberg about Agile and Flow. Agile is about adapting to unexpected change. Coaches should be practitioners. Speed up your feedback loop. Set the goal and let the team get on with it. Monotasking. Set up the environment to reduce interruptions. Start small, get things working and scale out. The problem with SAFE. We need to focus more on the interactions between people. Informal networks resolve dependencies faster. Use tools to build your network while working remotely. Listen to the podcast on your favourite podcast app: | Spotify | Apple Podcasts | Google Podcasts | iHeart Radio | PlayerFM | Amazon Music | Listen Notes | TuneIn | Audible | Podchaser | Connect with Staffan on LinkedIn or https://staffannoteberg.com/ , Murray via email or Shane in the Twitter-sphere @shagility. The No Nonsense Podcast is sponsored by: Simply Magical Data

Join Murray Robinson and Shane Gibson in a conversation with Mary and Tom Poppendieck about Lean and Software Development. Organizations have queues because they don't care about the customer. The three rules of lean, customer focus, flow and highly efficient expert teams. Scale your organization like a micro services architecture. Its not about doing the work right its about doing the right work. Don't focus on utilization focus on the value we provide. Don't copy practices copy the principles behind the practices. Don't centralize processes. Set goals and let teams develop their own processes. Listen to the podcast on your favourite podcast app: | Spotify | Apple Podcasts | Google Podcasts | iHeart Radio | PlayerFM | Amazon Music | Listen Notes | TuneIn | Audible | Podchaser | Connect with Mary and Tom @ http://www.poppendieck.com/ or leanessays.com, Murray via email or Shane in the Twitter-sphere @shagility. The No Nonsense Podcast is sponsored by: Simply Magical Data

Join Murray Robinson and Shane Gibson in a conversation with Bruce Taylor about working with offshore teams in developing countries. Why do people send their work offshore? Cost or talent? Is it cheaper to send work offshore or not? Outsourcing projects or augmenting the team. How to recruit the right people in a developing country. How does Agile work with people who have been brought up in a very hierarchical culture? Pairing and site visits are a powerful way to improve trust, knowledge and collaboration. Retaining team members. Scrum vs Flow for remote working. What do you do when you're working with a hierarchical supplier With offshore managers who hide what's going on and technical teams who want very detailed requirements and technical designs? The value of diverse perspectives. Listen to the podcast on your favourite podcast app: | Spotify | Apple Podcasts | Google Podcasts | iHeart Radio | PlayerFM | Amazon Music | Listen Notes | TuneIn | Audible | Podchaser | Connect with Bruce on LinkedIn, Murray via email or Shane in the Twitter-sphere @shagility. Read Bruce's article at https://medium.com/@rooosterboy/offshoring-agile-software-development-in-asia-be765d5461c2 The No Nonsense agile Podcast is sponsored by: Simply Magical Data

Join Murray Robinson and Shane Gibson in a conversation with Kyle Griffin about uncertainty, complexity and change. Our requirements are probably wrong. So show people and build small bets. Our plan is likely to be wrong. So let's do things to mitigate our plan, being wrong. Our estimates are going to be wrong. So don't rely heavily on the estimates being right. Our code's going to be wrong. So design your code to be easy to change. Agile is good because at its core Agile is a system for dealing with uncertainty effectively. Listen to the podcast on your favourite podcast app: | Spotify | Apple Podcasts | Google Podcasts | iHeart Radio | PlayerFM | Amazon Music | Listen Notes | TuneIn | Audible | Podchaser | Connect with Kyle on LinkedIn, Murray via email or Shane in the Twitter-sphere @shagility. The No Nonsense agile Podcast is sponsored by: Simply Magical Data

Join Murray Robinson and Shane Gibson for a conversation with Raj Nagappan on using Agile 2 to create awesome products. The early Agile movement was a rebellion against traditional command and control waterfall development that was failing everyone. Agile is a very important paradigm shift that has led to great improvements but it hasn't evolved as we have learnt more. Agile 2 is an evolution of Agile that brings it up to date with a focus on Thoughtfulness and prescription.; Outcomes and outputs.; Individuals and teams.; Business understanding and technical understanding.; Individual empowerment and good leadership; Adaptability and planning. Listen to the podcast on your favourite podcast app: | Spotify | Apple Podcasts | Google Podcasts | iHeart Radio | PlayerFM | Amazon Music | Listen Notes | TuneIn | Audible | Podchaser | Connect with Raj on LinkedIn or read about agile 2 @ https://agile2.net/, Murray via email or Shane in the Twitter-sphere @shagility. The No Nonsense agile Podcast is sponsored by: Simply Magical Data

Join Murray Robinson and Shane Gibson for a powerful conversation with Scott Seivwright on becoming a better leader. Leading the Agile 20 Reflect conference. Building community, co-creating a vision and principles, skeletons vs exoskeletons, dealing with conflict, angry fathers and controlling managers, letting go and sharing responsibility, the responsibility process, Johari window, Transactional analysis, five dysfunctions of a team, the courage to be open, non-violent communication, leaders vs managers, anthropology and alpha males, teams as systems, servant leadership, authoritarian psychopaths roll back agile, evolution favours agile organisations, soft systems analysis, imposter syndrome, humility, being a work in progress and open space. Listen to the podcast on your favourite podcast app: | Spotify | Apple Podcasts | Google Podcasts | iHeart Radio | PlayerFM | Amazon Music | Listen Notes | TuneIn | Audible | Podchaser | Connect with Scott on LinkedIn or Murray via email or Shane in the Twitter-sphere @shagility. The No Nonsense agile Podcast is sponsored by: Simply Magical Data

Join Murray Robinson and Shane Gibson for a debate with Michael Kusters about the pros and cons of SAFe. The Scaled “Agile” Framework for enterprises. SAFe is taking over because executives like its detailed 3-month program plans, detailed processes, hierarchical organization, and comprehensive rollout plans. SAFe has been great at sales and marketing, and it provides a great way for consultants to make money. But is it agile? If not, what are its benefits? Should we leave the field for unscrupulous consultants making money out of SAFe, or should we try and make it work? Should we use SAFe as the door to introduce real agile patterns that help, or is it a lost cause because executives who want SAFe aren't aligned with agile values? Listen to the podcast on your favourite podcast app: | Spotify | Apple Podcasts | Google Podcasts | iHeart Radio | PlayerFM | Amazon Music | Listen Notes | TuneIn | Audible | Podchaser | Connect with Michael on LinkedIn or https://failfastmoveon.blogspot.com/, Murray via email or Shane in the Twitter-sphere @shagility. The No Nonsense agile Podcast is sponsored by: Simply Magical Data

Join Murray Robinson and Shane Gibson in a conversation with Dave Farley on Continuous Delivery. Working in a way so that our software is always in a releasable state. Establishing fast, high quality feedback so that we can make decisions based on the reality of our customers needs and our systems state, rather than on guesses. The difference between CD, DevOps, Agile and XP. The business case for CD. Test Driven Development makes developers better. Three ways to safely deploy your code to trunk. Design on the assumptions that your wrong. Implementing CD. Listen to the podcast on your favourite podcast app: | Spotify | Apple Podcasts | Google Podcasts | iHeart Radio | PlayerFM | Amazon Music | Listen Notes | TuneIn | Audible | Podchaser | Connect with Dave on Twitter , https://www.davefarley.net/ or watch his Youtube videos https://www.youtube.com/c/ContinuousDelivery, Murray via email or Shane in the Twitter-sphere @shagility. The No Nonsense agile Podcast is sponsored by: Simply Magical Data

Join Murray Robinson and Shane Gibson in a conversation with Lisa Crispin on Holistic Testing. Build quality in. Continuous testing for continuous delivery. Building shared understanding of requirements. Shorten feedback loops. Moving from traditional testing to agile testing. Test automation. The test pyramid and agile testing quadrants. Business-facing tests with behavior-driven and acceptance test-driven techniques. High performing teams. Listen to the podcast on your favourite podcast app: | Spotify | Apple Podcasts | iHeart Radio | PlayerFM | Amazon Music | Listen Notes | TuneIn | Audible | Connect with Lisa via Linkedin or https://lisacrispin.com/ and https://agiletestingfellow.com/ , Murray via email or Shane in the Twitter-sphere @shagility. The No Nonsense agile Podcast is sponsored by: Simply Magical Data

Join Murray Robinson and Shane Gibson in a conversation with Esther Derby on Agile Coaching, Agile Leadership, Culture and Continuous Improvement. Making work more humane. Successful coaches understand the context and the content. Taking responsibility for personal growth and business outcomes. Good leadership adds a lot of value. Influencing senior managers. Underlying extractive structural patterns reemerge. Agile Governance. Listen to the podcast on your favourite podcast app: | Spotify | Apple Podcasts | iHeart Radio | PlayerFM | Amazon Music | Listen Notes | TuneIn | Audible | Connect with Esther via Linkedin or www.estherderby.com , Murray via email or Shane in the Twitter-sphere @shagility. The No Nonsense agile Podcast is sponsored by: Simply Magical Data

Join Murray Robinson and Shane Gibson in a conversation with Bas Vodde on LeSS. LeSS is true Scrum at Scale not just at the team level. LeSS applies the principles, purpose and elements of Scrum in a large-scale context, as simply as possible. Many scrum teams with one product, one product owner, one product backlog, one sprint, one sprint planning meeting, one sprint review and one retrospective. Large-Scale Scrum is Scrum. Empirical process control. Transparency. More with less. Whole-product focus. Customer-centric. Continuous improvement towards perfection. Systems thinking. Listen to the podcast on your favourite podcast app: | Spotify | Apple Podcasts | iHeart Radio | PlayerFM | Amazon Music | Listen Notes | TuneIn | Audible | Connect with Bas via Linkedin or https://less.works/ , Murray via email or Shane in the Twitter-sphere @shagility. The No Nonsense agile Podcast is sponsored by: Simply Magical Data

Join Murray Robinson and Shane Gibson in a conversation with Jurgen Appelo on how to design an organisation to support self management, continuous innovation and human experience. Jurgens unFix model supports gradual change, dynamic teams, and recognises that managers play an important role. The model is inspired by innovative companies including Haier and Tesla, various agile scaling frameworks, and books such as Team Topologies, Dynamic Reteaming, and Organization Design Listen to the podcast on your favourite podcast app: | Spotify | Apple Podcasts | iHeart Radio | PlayerFM | Amazon Music | Listen Notes | TuneIn | Audible | Connect with Jurgen via Linkedin or https://unfix.work/ Murray via email or Shane in the Twitter-sphere @shagility. The No Nonsense agile Podcast is sponsored by: Simply Magical Data

Join Murray Robinson and Shane Gibson in a conversation with Marty Cagan on Empowered Product Teams. Do discovery and delivery in one team. Discover problems worth solving, rapidly test prototypes and develop the best ideas using an agile approach. Low and high fidelity user experience prototypes, feasibility prototypes and data prototypes. Good leaders build highly aligned loosely coupled team, coach them and give them strategic problems to solve not requirements to build. Agile is great for delivery but the agile process police are killing product development. Listen to the podcast on your favourite podcast app: | Spotify | Apple Podcasts | iHeart Radio | PlayerFM | Amazon Music | Listen Notes | TuneIn | Audible | Connect with Marty via Linkedin or https://svpg.com/articles/, Murray via email or Shane in the Twitter-sphere @shagility. The No Nonsense agile Podcast is sponsored by: Simply Magical Data

Join Murray Robinson and Shane Gibson in a conversation with Jason Yip about Spotify. The Spotify approach works for Spotify, but it might not work for you. Develop your product strategy first, and then design your organisation to support it using team topologies. To succeed, you need unity of purpose, trust in people and playful growth. When you have alignment, you can give people autonomy and trust them to do the right thing. Design your architecture to enable autonomous teams. Define golden paths for teams and encourage them to experiment. Play drives innovation and growth. Don't outsource your strategic capabilities. Invest in highly skilled people who can explore and learn. Listen to the podcast on your favourite podcast app: | Spotify | Apple Podcasts | iHeart Radio | PlayerFM | Amazon Music | Listen Notes | TuneIn | Audible | Connect with Jason via Linkedin , Murray via email or Shane in the Twitter-sphere @shagility. The No Nonsense agile podcast is sponsored by: Simply Magical Data

Join Murray Robinson and Shane Gibson in a conversation with David Pereira about Product Leaders. Successful Product Leaders don't write requirements; they define the problem, set a goal and empower the team to get the job done. Be curious about customers' problems but don't take their word on the solution. Constantly test your assumptions with prototypes. Get your ideas in front of a customer early. Start with low fidelity and only enhance it when it shows value. Focus on outcomes, not deliverables. Measure value with leading indicators not lagging ones. Empower your team to solve your customers problems better than anyone else Listen to the podcast on your favourite podcast app: | Spotify | Apple Podcasts | iHeart Radio | PlayerFM | Amazon Music | Listen Notes | TuneIn | Audible | Connect with David via Linkedin , Murray via email or Shane in the Twitter-sphere @shagility. The No Nonsense agile podcast is sponsored by: Simply Magical Data

Join Murray Robinson and Shane Gibson in a conversation with Alidad Hamidi about Systems Thinking. Systems Thinking is about understanding that the whole is greater than the sum of the parts. It is the interactions between things that drive the outcome. For example, cutting costs locally often increases costs globally. One person's solution is often another person's problem. To solve the real problem, we need to bring people together to agree on the issue, the goal and the scope of the system. Then we need to keep asking why until we can create a model of how everything interacts. Then we can design a solution, try it out and see what happens to the system as a whole. As we are doing this, we need to look at the interactions between our system and other systems. And we need to look outside the agile community for ideas and solutions. Listen to the podcast on your favourite podcast app: | Spotify | Apple Podcasts | iHeart Radio | PlayerFM | Amazon Music | Listen Notes | TuneIn | Audible | Connect with Steve via Linkedin , Murray via email or Shane in the Twitter-sphere @shagility. The No Nonsense agile podcast is sponsored by: Simply Magical Data

Join Murray Robinson and Shane Gibson in a conversation with Steve Tendon about Tameflow and the theory of constraints. If you can find the constraint preventing the organisation from achieving its goal and address it, you can make extraordinary improvements in performance. But sadly most improvement efforts fail because they don't address the constraint in the system. We talk about how to understand and address the constraint using the story of Herbie and the scout troop going for a hike. And what happens when you drive a group of jeeps through the jungle. We discuss the importance of unity of purpose, a community of trust and inspired leadership. And we talk about how we need to change leaders' mental models and psychological incentives to align with the goal. Listen to the podcast on your favourite podcast app: | Spotify | Apple Podcasts | iHeart Radio | PlayerFM | Amazon Music | Listen Notes | TuneIn | Audible | Connect with Steve via Linkedin , Murray via email or Shane in the Twitter-sphere @shagility. The No Nonsense agile podcast is sponsored by: Simply Magical Data

Join Murray Robinson and Shane Gibson in a conversation with Daniel Mezick about open leadership. What motivates people and how to get great results in a group. Organizations are social games with goals, rules and players with different resources and decision rights. Most organizations are totalitarian dictatorships with a heavy management tax. Open organizations are much more effective at harnessing the talents of their people and resources. Harness peoples talents by giving them an attractive goal, clear boundaries, leadership support and the right to make decisions about their own work. Be generous, calm and support your people. Listen to the podcast on your favourite podcast app: | Spotify | Apple Podcasts | iHeart Radio | PlayerFM | Amazon Music | Listen Notes | TuneIn | Audible | Connect with Daniel via Linkedin , Murray via email or Shane in the Twitter-sphere @shagility. The No Nonsense agile podcast is sponsored by: Simply Magical Data

Join Murray Robinson and Shane Gibson in a conversation with Scott Middleton about his article Agile is dead. McKinsey killed it. The Agile PMO. Agile as a cost out tool. Slathering the Agile word onto everything to sell services. Do big consulting companies really understand Agile? What about people and interactions over processes and tools. What about delivering value to customers early and often? Real agile still has a lot of value. Tailoring your agile approach and getting close to customers. Read Scott's article https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/agile-dead-mckinsey-just-killed-scott-middleton/ Listen to the podcast on your favourite podcast app: | Spotify | Apple Podcasts | iHeart Radio | PlayerFM | Amazon Music | Listen Notes | TuneIn | Audible | Connect with Scott via Linkedin , Murray via email or Shane in the Twitter-sphere @shagility. The No Nonsense agile podcast is sponsored by: Simply Magical Data

Join Murray Robinson and Shane Gibson in a conversation with Tobias Mayer about self organization and servant leadership. Everyone can be a leader. Take responsibility. Be generous and humble. Stop demotivating people. Create an environment for people to be brilliant. Create a vision, define boundaries and get out of the way. Be a servant leader. Empowerment and anarchism. Servant leadership and Christianity. There's nothing better than having a good relationship with another human being. Help people step into their brilliance. Listen to the podcast on your favourite podcast app: | Spotify | Apple Podcasts | iHeart Radio | PlayerFM | Amazon Music | Listen Notes | TuneIn | Audible | Connect with Tobias via Linkedin , Murray via email or Shane in the Twitter-sphere @shagility. The No Nonsense agile podcast is sponsored by: Simply Magical Data

Join Murray Robinson and Shane Gibson in a conversation with Maarten Dalmjin on Product Owners vs Product Managers. What are they, what's the difference between them and why does it matter? Why do we need a product manager if we have a product owner? Overwhelmed vs Absentee product owner. Supporting the Product Owner. Product discovery. The sprint bubble. The rift between product management and scrum. Rapid feedback loops. Getting close to the customer. Building the right thing. Dual track vs integrated design. Scaling product development. Anti patterns. Product Management is more than Scrum. Listen to the podcast on your favourite podcast app: | Spotify | Apple Podcasts | iHeart Radio | PlayerFM | Amazon Music | Listen Notes | TuneIn | Audible | Connect with Maarten via his website , Murray via email or Shane in the Twitter-sphere @shagility. The No Nonsense agile podcast is sponsored by: Simply Magical Data

Join Murray Robinson and Shane Gibson in a conversation with Alex Stokes on Agile Transformation. Why do organisations do agile transformations? If agile transformations are working why is the state of agile so poor in large organisations? Is a waterfall transformation process incompatible with agile? Measuring the benefits of a transformation. Transformations are a way to get leadership support for major change. Imposing vs empowering. Coaching vs telling. Patterns vs frameworks. Continuous change vs transformational change. Using agile to become agile. Listen to the podcast on your favourite podcast app: | Spotify | Apple Podcasts | iHeart Radio | PlayerFM | Amazon Music | Listen Notes | TuneIn | Audible | Connect with Alex via Linkedin , Murray via email or Shane in the Twitter-sphere @shagility. The No Nonsense Agile podcast is sponsored by: Simply Magical Data

Join Murray Robinson and Shane Gibson in a conversation with Al Shalloway about the Scaled Agile Framework (SAFe) and scaling. We explore the benefits and shortcomings of SAFE, focusing on value streams, batch and flow systems, lean principles, and the importance of short feedback cycles. We critique the traditional command-and-control approach and emphasize customer value, lean methodologies, adaptive implementations, and system thinking. Al Shalloway shares his experiences and insights, advocating for a more holistic approach to scaling agile practices. Tune in for valuable perspectives on implementing agile frameworks effectively. Listen to the podcast on your favourite podcast app: | Spotify | Apple Podcasts | Google Podcasts | iHeart Radio | PlayerFM | Amazon Music | Listen Notes | TuneIn | Audible | Podchaser | Deezer | Podcast Addict | Connect with Al via Linkedin , Contact Shane on LinkedIn shagility or Murray via email The No Nonsense Agile podcast is sponsored by: Simply Magical Data