Mortification of Spin

The cancel culture mob never sleeps, and this time they’re after one of the most well-known evangelical pastors and writers of our day. Max Lucado recently came under fire for a message he preached and an article he wrote in 2004 holding the view that marriage is between one man and one woman. Our duo takes on Lucado’s response and all that followed when his “crime,’ according to the mob, was exposed. How can the average Christian defend his or her beliefs when top evangelical leaders falter in their response to such accusations? Can “faithful people disagree” about what the Bible says about homosexuality? Join us for a timely and useful conversation! We are pleased to offer the opportunity to win a copy of a very relevant book on the topic. Register to win a free copy of That Hideous Strength by Melvin Tinker. The books are a gift from our friends at Evangelical Press.

American culture has been moving in a progressive direction at breakneck speed, with it, the language employed to define the trends. Today, Carl and Todd explore the meaning of “Cancel Culture” and the latest “cancellation” of a prominent conservative voice by one of the most powerful corporations in the country. Ryan T. Anderson, who has been a guest on this podcast, was recently “canceled” for his book on transgenderism (“When Harry Became Sally”), which challenges the mainstream sexual orthodoxy and points out the dangers of body mutilation. What’s the significance of this book being removed from a major online retailer? Should we be alarmed? Join us for a timely and important conversation. Show Notes ·Listen to Ryan’s interview when “When Harry Became Sally” was first published. ·About Ryan T. Anderson ·How Ryan Anderson’s Banned Book ‘When Harry Became Sally’ Helped Me With Gender Dysphoria.

Christian education is highly regarded among Reformed Christians, and for good reason. Teaching young believers the basics of the faith and helping the mature ones swim the deep waters of the catholicity of our creeds and confessions has been, for many years, a passion and mission of today’s guest. Lane Tipton is pastor at Trinity Orthodox Presbyterian Church in Easton, PA, and a fellow of Biblical and Systematic Theology at the Reformed Forum. Tipton sits down with Carl and Todd to share how an end goal of teaching and preaching deepens his commitment to help Christians in every stage of faith become fully mature in Christ. Lane points out the importance of systematic theology in preaching, and that Christ’s presence in the Old Testament grows organically through the pages of Scripture, rendering an important means to develop our understanding of the whole of Scripture. Is the mission of the Old Testament merely to point us to Jesus in the New Testament? How may one preach the OT without repeatedly making the same point? Tune in for this week’s conversation, and learn how you can take full advantage of the resources offered by the Reformed Forum. Show Notes · About Reformed Forum

Evil has plagued humanity since the Garden of Eden…and has obviously clouded Carl's judgement. In today’s conversation, the brash Brit attempts to pass as a native Texan, just because he’s been to a Willie Nelson concert at Billy Bob’s wearing cowboy boots and a Stetson. Take a moment to picture the hideous spectacle… Todd, a true native of the Lone Star State, welcomes recent Texas transplant Scott Christensen for a conversation about his most recent work, What about Evil. In the book, Scott addresses the perennial question: “If God exists, and if He’s good, then why does He allow evil?” Perhaps the answer may be found in the unchanging nature of God. Join us for a most useful discussion! We are pleased to offer our listeners the opportunity to win a free copy of What about Evil? Register! Show Notes · About Scott Christensen

Carl and Todd meet to discuss a prevalent problem in the church: spiritual abuse. We know it happens, but pinpointing spiritual abuse in the church—then, working to resolve it--requires a great deal of care and wisdom. What actually constitutes “spiritual abuse?” Do being confronted, offended, or simply hearing something you don’t like count as forms of abuse? How has the therapeutic culture we live in changed the conversation, even the language employed? Who are more likely to be abused--ministers or congregants? Our hosts weigh in with insight based on personal experience, and offer advice about tools that could help curb abuse in the church. Show Notes ·Evangelicals and Race Theory by Carl Trueman

Michael Hanby is associate professor of Religion and Philosophy of Science at the Pontifical John Paul II Institute for Studies on Marriage and Family at the Catholic University of America. Dr. Hanby is in today to discuss recent societal changes that are taking place at breakneck speed. The concept of gay marriage may seem almost conservative these days, considered alongside the issues we all now face. How have once unthinkable sexual standards so quickly become the norm in the political and public sphere? How should one think and operate in a society experiencing such rapid change? Show Notes · The Brave New World of Same Sex Marriage article by Michael Hanby · The Abolition of Man and Woman article by Michael Hanby · The Abolition of Man by C.S. Lewis

CRT (Carl R. Trueman) joins co-host Todd Pruitt, who is primed and ready for today’s discussion of…CRT! Critical Race Theory has seeped into the church—even reaching some more conservative branches of Protestantism—and it’s rapidly gaining ground. What is critical race theory? Carl makes the connection with identity politics as he describes his recent article that demonstrates CRT is another seductive facet of Marxism, trying to solve the problem of evil using oppressor/oppressed categories. How should the church work through issues of race without failing to address the other challenges of our day? Are “victim and victimizer” biblical concepts? Don’t miss this timely conversation! Show Notes ·Evangelicals and Race Theory by Carl Trueman ·American political activist, philosopher, and author Angela Davis ·Reclaiming the Atonement: An Orthodox Theology of Redemption by Patrick Henry Reardon ·Carl’s review of Race and Covenant by Gerald McDermott

With Todd hopelessly delayed by an extended hair styling appointment, Carl alone sits down to chat with our special guest. At the table is Andrew Walker, associate professor of Christian Ethics and Apologetics, associate dean of the School of Theology, and executive director of the Carl F. H. Henry Institute for Evangelical Engagement, all at Southern Baptist Seminary. Andrew’s also an editor and writer for several publications. Simply put, Andrew is an expert in making the Gospel practical, plausible, real, and effective in the daily affairs of modern society—the very topic of today’s conversation. Andrew defines Natural Law, explaining how it informs morality, free speech, and religious freedom—each, an area of great concern for every American. Show Notes · About Andrew T. Walker · Liberty for All by Andrew T. Walker upcoming book

Life is full of tragedy, sadness, and suffering. Scripture is replete with such stories from Genesis to Revelation. Why is there suffering? Why do Christians suffer? Is there any hope to be found in the midst of suffering? Carl and Todd sit down with Mark Talbot, associate professor of Philosophy at Wheaton College, who has written a very helpful book entitled When the Stars Disappear: Help and Hope from the Stories of Suffering in Scripture. Mark shares the reasons he wrote the book, and an interesting perspective on suffering…including how humans dealt with suffering in times past, and the way we see and deal with suffering in the present. Pull up a seat and join us for this personal and relatable conversation. Show Notes ·Acts 27 and 28 ·“When Suffering is Redemptive/Redeeming a Life of Paralysis,” a free download from ReformedResources.org We have several copies of When the Stars Disappear that we would like to give away. Register for the opportunity to win one. The books are a generous gift from our friends at Crossway.

Worship is a sacred privilege for Christians, and how we approach worship is key to revealing what we believe about our relationship with the transcendent God. With that understanding in mind, Carl and Todd invite Jonathan Cruse to talk about his book, titled What Happens When We Worship. Jonathan is an ordained minister in the OPC, and pastors Community Presbyterian Church in Kalamazoo, MI. Cruse helps his readers—both young and old, seasoned believers and those new to the faith—to understand the elements of worship, all that is taking place while we worship, and why certain aspects are done as they are in the Reformed tradition. It’s a rich book, written that every Christian might grasp the wonder and awe of worship.

Brad Littlejohn and Colin Redemer join Carl and Todd for a conversation about the Davenant Institute, and to reflect on the state of education in general and of theological education in particular in the United States. You’ll learn the meaning behind the name of the institution, which was founded to solve a supply and demand problem. Brad and Colin believe that God’s simplicity, aseity, eternality, immutability, and impassibility are concepts that should be shared with the laity. What’s more, the Davenant duo makes a compelling case that learning is not simply a matter of utilitarianism, as it is “sold” by educational institutions today. Our guests explain the real value and purpose of education, and how they coincide with the philosophy of teaching and programs offered by Davenant Institute. We’re partnering with The Davenant Institute to offer a few free copies of one of their publications titled Without Excuse: Scripture, Reason, and Presuppositional Apologetics. Register for the opportunity to win one. Show Notes · Ad Fontes Magazine · The Davenant Institute Resources

Keeping track of the beautiful cities in South Carolina is not an easy task, but Todd finally gets it right as he introduces today’s guest. Jon Payne is the pastor of Christ Church Presbyterian in Charleston, SC, and serves as the executive coordinator of the Gospel Reformation Network (GRN). Jon explains what the Gospel Reformation Network is, what brought this group of PCA pastors and elders together about eight years ago, and the pressing issues of the day that keep them standing firm in the purpose of upholding biblical fidelity. Payne shares the vision of GRN, explains the difference between a supporting network and a lobbying group inside the denomination, and announces the upcoming GRN event in May. Oh, and—once again--you’ll notice Carl’s delight in not being like those troubled PCAers! We are pleased to be giving away copies of A Faith Worth Defending: The Synod of Dort’s Enduring Heritage. Register for the opportunity to win one. The books are a generous gift from our friends at Reformation Heritage Books Show Notes ·Gospel Reformation Network

Our intrepid (and never tepid) co-hosts welcome good friend Linda Finlayson to the mix. She’s a well-known writer of children’s books, who—for the second time—risks her reputation by sitting down with Carl and Todd to talk about her latest release. God’s Bible Timeline: The Big Book of Biblical History is the second volume in the series and it’s just off the press. The book combines some of the author’s passions, like church history and her love of teaching children. Linda discusses the idea behind the book, how she addresses difficult passages of Scripture in a way that’s appropriately worded for children, and the resources that laid the foundation of her work. As a big fan of pictures and book illustrations, Todd gives Linda high praise, and recommends the book as a Christmas gift for both young and old. We are happy to give away a few copies of God’s Bible Timeline. Register for the opportunity to win one.The books come courtesy of our friends at Christian Focus Publications.

Carl calls it “the triumph of hope over experience,” as Michael Morales bravely returns for a sit-down with our dynamic duo. Morales discusses his new book, Exodus Old and New: A Biblical Theology of Redemption. Michael is professor of Biblical Studies at Greenville Presbyterian Theological Seminary, and an ordained minister in the PCA. How is the book of Exodus a paradigm for salvation throughout redemptive history? Morales takes the challenge of explaining how the book of Exodus can be preached and pastorally applied to modern Christians (particularly in America) in a way to help them understand that they are living as strangers in a strange land. Oh, and don’t miss the charges levied against Carl for allegedly breaking the second commandment. We are happy to give away copies of Exodus Old and New. Register for the opportunity to win one. The copies are a generous gift from our friends at IVP.

The dispute between our hosts about which denomination is the greatest in the kingdom of God—the OPC or the PCA—might never end. Aiming to minimize any controversy and tension within the denomination, we bring in a sound-minded PCA southern gentleman to share some good news. Brad Isbel is a ruling elder in his church, one of the hosts of the podcast Presbycast (where he’s AKA “Chortles Weakly”), and the director of MORE in the PCA, which is the topic of the day. What is MORE in the PCA, how did it start, and what does it seek to accomplish? Brad reminds of the responsibility of churches to send their elders to participate in the General Assembly, with an eye to correcting any imbalance in representation. Listen in to learn how you can help, and how you can take advantage of the opportunities offered by MORE in the PCA. Show Notes · More in the PCA

Our guest is Greg Lanier, associate professor of New Testament at Reformed Theological Seminary’s Orlando campus, and a minister of the Gospel. Lanier’s new book tackles crucial questions about our Lord, including: Did Jesus ever claim to be God? What did Paul and the earliest Christians believe about the deity of Jesus, and do the same beliefs remain today among Christians? What does it mean when the book of Philippians says that He was “in the form of God”? Although the book addresses such deep, theological questions, Greg writes it at a popular level, helping the believer in the pew to think rightly about the deity of Jesus. Listen in for an excellent introduction to an important book. We’re giving away copies of Is Jesus Truly God? Register for the opportunity to win one. The books are a gift from our friends at Crossway. Show Notes The State of Theology Research

Clearly, we live in times of sexual identity chaos. Arguments that would have sounded unconscionable just a few decades ago are now plausible, and are defended, adopted, even pridefully celebrated. How did we get here? What seeds were planted that flourished into the modern thinking of sexuality as one’s primary or even sole identity? The Rise and Triumph of the Modern Self: Cultural Amnesia, Expressive Individualism, and the Road to Sexual Revolution is Carl Truman’s most recent release and may be one of the most significant books of 2020. Trueman goes back a few centuries to analyze the philosophical underpinnings that gave rise to modern thought, changing even the meaning of language. Join us for an intriguing conversation about a topic that—as time passes—hits ever closer to home. We have copies of The Rise and Triumph of the Modern Self that we are pleased to give away. Register for the opportunity to win one. The books come courtesy of our friends at Crossway. Show Notes ·The Rise and Triumph of the Modern Self - Part 1 ·Carl Trueman Explains Liquid Modernity by The American Conservative ·7 Books to Help You Understand the Times by Tim Challies ·Faith and Law - Washington D.C. lecture

Believe it or not, some Presbyterians do jump the fence and become Baptist! Such is the case of Gavin Ortlund. Gavin is a theologian and pastor of First Baptist Church of Ojai in California. As the idea of doctrinal and theological retrieval has risen in prominence, what then is theological retrieval? What exactly are we seeking to “retrieve”—and why? Gavin shares reasons why he’s communicating the importance of retrieval and why he’s chosen Augustine and the doctrine of creation as keys. If you think that this conversation—and Gavin’s book—are about some complex theological concept, you are mistaken! You’ll be surprised to learn how relevant, practical, and helpful Augustine’s doctrine of creation is for the average Christian. We’re giving away free copies of Gavin’s book, Retrieving Augustine’s Doctrine of Creation. Register for the opportunity to win one courtesy of IVP Press. Show Notes · Theological Retrieval for Evangelicals by Gavin Ortlund · Anselm’s Pursuit of Joy: A Commentary on the Proslogion

Todd Billings is professor of Reformed Theology at Western Theological Seminary in Holland, MI, and a minister in the Reformed Church in America. He’s the author of Rejoicing in Lament: Wrestling with Incurable Cancer and Life in Christ, but his most recent book—The End of the Christian Life: How Embracing Our Mortality Frees Us to Truly Live—is today’s topic. As Todd surveyed his former students and friends in ministry, he learned that—for many—the topic of death and walking alongside the dying is the greatest challenge pastors face in ministry. It’s increasingly evident that we live in a death-denying culture, so how can we help people to think through our inevitability of mortality? Join us for a deeply thoughtful conversation as we consider how the secular culture has twisted and softened the meaning of death--even changing the words we use to discuss it. Register for the opportunity to win a copy of Todd’s book, The End of the Christian Life. The copies are a generous gift from our friends at Brazos Press, a division of Baker Publishing Group. Show Notes ·A Secular Age by Charles Taylor

Carl and Todd welcome a returning guest: Ismael Hernandez. He’s the executive director of the Freedom and Virtue Institute and author of Not Tragically Colored. Ismael joins in to discuss the current state of racial tension and politics in America. His experience growing up with Marxist ideals, and--later in life—joining a religious Marxist group gives Hernandez special insight into the topic. Although we uphold the dignity and sacredness of every human life and want to affirm that black lives matter, Ismael suggests that the movement known as “Black Lives Matter” (BLM) harbors some troubling beliefs. Hernandez refers to his recent article which asserts BLM perceives the issue of oppression from within the ideological context of Marxism. Don’t miss this timely conversation! Show Notes · Listen again to Not Tragically Colored · Freedom and Virtue Institute · “BLM”: the Proposition, the Organization, and the Movement by Ismael Hernandez · Social Justice Isn’t What You Think It Is by Michael Novak and Paul Adams

It’s been a banner year for great books, and the Spin Crew has chosen yet another winner! This time, Carl and Todd sit down with Eric Jacobsen, senior pastor of First Presbyterian Church in Tacoma, WI, and author of Three Pieces of Glass: Why We Feel Lonely in a World Mediated by Screens. What are the pieces of glass Eric refers to, and how have they changed our world? Just a few years ago, we were excited about the advances in technology, which promised to bring people together from the four corners of the world. Technology has accomplished that, in a way, but it has also exacerbated loneliness, isolation, and alienation. Listen and discover the relationship between the three pieces of glass, the church, and the sense of “belonging”. We’re excited to give away copies of Three Pieces of Glass. Register for the opportunity to win one. The books are a complimentary gift from Brazos Press.

This week, we reach “across the pond” for insight on the much-anticipated critical biography of Dutch theologian Herman Bavinck. James Eglinton, the Meldrum Senior Lecturer in Reformed Theology at New College, the University of Edinburgh, wrote the bio. Eglinton is acknowledged for his pivotal role in extending Bavinck’s popularity outside the Dutch-speaking world. James tells us where and when his interest in the life of Bavinck began, and what it was about the Dutch theologian that first caught Eglinton’s attention. Bavinck was a man of his day, very much attuned to modernity and its challenges, yet sensitive to the theological needs of a broad spectrum of laypeople. What more can we learn from this intriguing figure, and why should Christians care about Bavinck today? We are excited to give away copies of Bavinck: A Critical Biography.Register for the opportunity to win one. The books are a complimentary gift from Baker Academic.

The dynamic duo today becomes a trio, as a third pessimist—that is, a third realist—joins in. Rod Dreher is an American writer and editor, culture critic, and the author of several books, including The Benedict Option and the freshly released Live Not By Lies: A Manual for Christian Dissidents. Rod’s book is a wakeup call for Christians about ideas that have become prevalent in American society…notions already adopted in other countries that have proven to be a threat to civil liberties. Is there still hope to turn from what he calls “soft totalitarianism”? What’s the course of action for Christians to preserve the faith in such an intolerant society, where words and actions are becoming highly surveilled and dealt with “accordingly?” Live Not By Lies is timely and absolutely relevant for Christian dissidents. You can’t afford to miss this conversation! We’re giving away a number of copies of Live Not By Lies. Register for the opportunity to win one! The books are a complimentary gift from Sentinel, a division of Penguin Books.

After revealing some details of their personal lives, Carl and Todd get down to business. Seems a disturbing phenomenon is plaguing churches all over the country. Since the lockdown, many Christians have become too comfortable with worshipping from home over a screen…dressed in their jammies, eating donuts, and—quite possibly—not really worshipping at all. Does it really matter? What are people missing by not going back to church as restrictions are slowly being lifted? Our favorite duo discuss the meaning and importance of “being bodily present” for the different traditions like the Roman Catholic, Eastern Orthodox, and the Protestant. Is there any place for live streaming, and any reason not to physically gather for worship? It’s time to weigh in. Oh, and notice who’s playing the optimist this time!

Carl Trueman’s The Rise and Triumph of the Modern Self - Cultural Amnesia, Expressive Individualism, and the Road to Sexual Revolution hasn’t even been released, and—already—it’s the best-selling book of 2020! It is, at least, according to the hosts of this program. Yes, the author feels he’s found a pot of gold, and is buying that dream villa in Venice with the royalties. At the same time, co-host Todd feels privileged as he possesses an advanced copy of this treasure and believes he’ll be enjoying a free stay at his friend's Mediterranean estate. The runaway cultural train is gaining speed, and revolutionary changes that used to take decades to develop seem to be happening at a breakneck pace—especially, where matters of sexual identity are concerned. From Augustine to Rousseau and Marx, and from Descartes to Bruce Jenner, Carl Trueman traces the thoughts underlying the modern view of the self...helping us understand the present, and preparing us to navigate the days ahead. The Rise and Triumph of the Modern Self is available for pre-order. Visit Reformed Resources to place your order.

The state of California has gathered its pitchforks and torches and they’re coming after Grace Community Church, pastored by John MacArthur. The COVID-19 pandemic has opened doors to all kinds of government regulations, including—to no one’s surprise—restrictions on worship gatherings. The feud between Grace Community Church and the state of California rages on, and our dynamic duo is focusing on the fine line between obedience to Scripture and obedience to the limited, God-given power of the civil magistrate. Has the state of California overstepped the boundaries of religious freedom, supplanting the authority of the Scriptures and of the Church? The issue has captured a lot of attention on social media with as many different opinions as the number of people offering them. As we’re on the subject, we have a few copies to give away of a new release by Concordia Publishing House, Faith in the Shadow of a Pandemic.Register for the opportunity to win one.

Carl Trueman and Todd Pruitt discuss the value of leisure reading and suggest a few outstanding titles. Todd’s dramatic reading at the conclusion of the podcast is worth the price of admission! Perhaps we should put it another way… You’ll enjoy reading A Christian Guide to the Classics, by Leland Ryken. Enter to win a copy!

When couples struggle with the pain of infertility, surrogacy may be one of the available options. Is surrogacy as simple as finding a “carrier” for your baby, or are there more considerations to bear in mind? Carl and Todd sit down with Adeline Allen, associate professor of law at Trinity Law School. Adeline raises some questions about the moral, Christian ethical, and lawful implications of surrogacy. It is biblical that Christians would strive to raise godly offspring, but does the means of surrogacy justify that end? How are pastors to help their congregants to think through such a sensitive issue? There’s much to be discerned from this thoughtful and important episode.

Carl and Todd are virtually visiting the beautiful state of Georgia, sipping some peach sweet tea with Rev. David Hall. David is the senior pastor at Midway Presbyterian Church in the Atlanta area, the hot spot for a yearly conference on reformed worship emphasizing the simplicity of worship and the centrality of preaching. Due to changes in state guidelines, this year’s event was canceled, so David chats instead with our heroes about the newest social phenomenon: Puritanical perfectionism. At issue, the emergence of a secular kind of absolute morality, which punishes violators to the fullest extent of “woke” standards, leaving the perpetrator without any chance for redemption or forgiveness. Is this “new morality” a good thing for society? David reviews the “Five Points of Neo-Perfectionism,” discussing each in light of their social implications. We have free copies of David’s book titled “The Arrogance of the Modern” that we would love to share with our listeners. Register for the opportunity to win one.

The emperor of California has granted Joel Kim a temporary release to join Carl and Todd for a short conversation. The gathering happens at the usual spot—in front of an Ann Taylor boutique—so that the wives may have a good time as the men whine and opine! Joel is the president of Westminster Seminary California, and he has some peculiar challenges ahead of him regarding the upcoming academic year at WestCal. Kim shares some of the changes the seminary made to accommodate the needs of the students, and what he’s foreseeing as temporary solutions to keep a certain level of continuity and normalcy in the months ahead. What does Kim think about online education? Tune in for this clear-cut conversation to hear about WestCal’s focus and commitment in forming pastors despite the challenges of COVID. We have copies of With All Your Heart: Orienting your Mind, Desires, and Will toward God by WestCal professor Craig Troxel that we would like to give away. Register for the opportunity to win a free copy.

Our dynamic duo brings in Chad Vegas with a plan to dig up some dirt he has on Big Eva without raising any controversy. But who are we kidding? Chad is currently the pastor of Sovereign Grace Church of Bakersfield, CA, and was a pioneer in the Young, Restless, and Reformed (YRR) movement. We’re riveted by his words as Chad tells us what it was like in the early days of the movement. Vegas speaks kindly of the friendships forged during his time in YRR, the support he and his family received from those friends, and the lessons learned. Still, Chad raises some fair concerns about the direction the movement was heading when he left it. What were some factors that contributed to Chad’s exit from the YRR? Why did he move toward a more Reformed theology? Buckle in for a gripping episode, chock full of confessions, book endorsement repentance, statues being taken down from seminary squares, redemption, and much more! We are happy to offer you the opportunity to win a copy of The Creedal Imperative by our very own Carl Trueman. Register!!

This week’s conversation brings in a New Englander, and--mind you--a Grove City College alum! Megan Hill is a pastor’s wife living in Massachusetts. She’s a pastor’s daughter, a mom, an editor, and the author of A Place to Belong - Learning to Love the Local Church. The image we personally hold of the church may not be great, but God’s Word paints a different picture. How might we reconcile what we perceive with what God says about his bride? Should we think of the church as merely a means to our own ends, assessing the local body in terms of what it can offer for our lives? How can we reshape our thinking about the church? An ordinary group of people who meet weekly and worship their Lord in an ordinary fashion offer a wonderful testimony to the world around them. Megan has much to say about the blessing that is participatory Reformed worship. Show Notes · Hiding in the Light by Rifqa Bary We have copies of A Place to Belong that we would like to give to some of our listeners. Register for the opportunity to win one. The books are a generous gift from our friends at Crossway.

Todd and his “sidekick” Carl believe that they have much wisdom to dispense to the world. They’ve picked a tech-free and quiet spot nestled in among the Amish in Pennsylvania to share their thoughts on the “evils” of social media—particularly regarding church officers. Since quitting Twitter Todd’s rosy cheeks are back, his cholesterol and blood pressure are under control, and he’s grown enough hair to sport a man-bun! In all seriousness, as Christians, do we stop and consider how we interact with others on social media? Has our behavior been irreproachable before God and man? What would our children think if they witnessed our interaction with people with whom we disagree? Is there a higher level of accountability for church officers concerning social media? Listen for Todd’s intriguing story of redemption and social media recovery, as well as Carl’s, “I told you so.”

As the Covid-19 debate rages and protestors have taken to the streets, the US Supreme Court hands down an important ruling in a case, which—unfortunately—seems to have flown under the radar of the media: Bostock v. Clayton County. The smartest-dressed man on campus returns! Matthew Franck is the Associate Director of the James Madison Program in American Ideals and Institutions at Princeton University, and lecturer for their Department of Politics. As you won’t hear much about the Bostock ruling elsewhere, Matt joins Carl and Todd to shed some light on what this decision means regarding the interpretation of the legal text of Title VII, as well as its implications for religious freedom in the short and long terms. Show Notes ·Supreme Court Ruling on Bostock v. Clayton County - Justice Alito's dissenting opinion begins on page 38 ·Grove City College ·Hillsdale College ·Patrick Henry College

Carl rushes in to introduce today’s guest…lest he, once again, forget the man’s name! Jonathan Master is a friend of The Spin and the co-host of Theology on the Go, another Alliance podcast. Just a few days ago, Jonathan officially took the reins as president of Greenville Presbyterian Theological Seminary, so we brought him back into the bunker to gain some inside info about what the future holds. What is it like to step into a new position of leadership during a time of so much instability? What are some of the main challenges Jonathan might encounter ahead? If you’re considering going to seminary, you’ll be interested in hearing what Jonathan has to say about GPTS and its distinctives. You’ll also pick up on Carl and Todd’s obvious bookcase ladder envy! We are pleased to offer you the opportunity to win a free copy of a great book titled Knowing the Trinity by Ryan McGraw, who is a GPTS faculty member.

Todd and Carl’s guest today is Kevin DeYoung. He’s the pastor of Christ Covenant Church in Matthews, NC, assistant professor of systematic theology at the Reformed Theological Seminary, Charlotte campus, and author/contributor for numerous outstanding books. Kevin joins us today for the first time to discuss the recently-released PCA report on human sexuality. DeYoung recently served as a member of the ad-interim committee that produced this useful study, and he briefs us on the process, structure, purpose, and legality of such reports. Be sure to tune in for this incredibly helpful discussion. Nota bene: While we may safely recommend any of Kevin's many helpful books on several topics that have been a great blessing to the church at large, please beware if he ever publishes a collection of recipes or offers any sort of dieting advice. Register for the opportunity to win a free copy of Kevin’s book What Does the Bible Really Teach About Homosexuality? Show Notes PCA’s General Assembly Committee Report on Sexuality

We’re living in a time of many, simultaneous world crises. Are these global challenges in some way related? Seeking perspective and clarity, our hosts discuss one of Carl’s recent articles at First Things, where he ponders why the British seem more concerned with incidents of police brutality in the US than with China’s aggressive plan to diminish Hong Kong’s democracy as Britain’s former colony. How may identity politics and social media be shaping this behavior, and what does it say about us as a society? Carl’s one-word answer: Belonging! Show Notes A Dark Cloud for Democracy

Greenville Presbyterian Theological Seminary debuted on “The Spin” in 2019 in the person of Michael Morales, the seminary’s professor of Biblical Studies. Who Shall Ascend the Mount of the Lord? is Michael’s latest work on the book of Leviticus, and part of the New Studies in Biblical Theology series by IVP. Don’t dismiss this outstanding book merely on the subject matter! Leviticus is not “the most boring book in the bible,” and you’re about to learn why! Michael identifies an intriguing theme in Leviticus, along with its relationship to the sacredness of time and the Sabbath. Don’t miss this important perspective on the Pentateuch!

Matthew Barrett joined us in 2019. He’s associate professor of Christian Theology at Midwestern Baptist Theological Seminary in Kansas, MO. Matthew stopped by to chat about his latest work, None Greater: The Undomesticated Attributes of God. If you’re wondering what Matthew means by the word “undomesticated,” you’re not alone! Could it be that—because of our fallen, limited abilities to apprehend the infinite attributes of God—we tend to try and “tame” Him, or “pull Him down” to our level? Are those immutable attributes what make Him worthy of worship? Don’t miss this thoughtful conversation about the relationship between the doctrine of God and His divine attributes.

The crew receives a visit from Fr. Thomas Weinandy. He is a Franciscan Capuchin priest, systematic theologian, long-time professor, and author of many books. In his latest--Jesus Becoming Jesus: A Theological Interpretation of the Synoptic Gospels--Thomas focuses on the doctrine and theology of the synoptic gospels, zooming in closely on the acts of Jesus in his earthly life, and the mysteries of the faith as the Lord becomes Yahweh Saves. The conversation emphasizes the importance of connecting the saving acts of God in the person of Jesus Christ, and the orthodox doctrines of immutability and impassibility. Hear what Fr. Weinandy says about holding both together in preaching, and what is truly essential for our salvation. Show Notes About Thomas Weinandy Does God Suffer? Thomas C. Oden Theologian John Webster

Mortification of Spin is on holiday in June, so we are enjoying a few powerful episodes of the podcast just one more time. In 2018, Douglas Groothuis joined the conversation. He’s professor of philosophy at Denver Seminary and had recently written a very personal book titled Walking through Twilight - A Wife’s Illness, A Philosopher’s Lament. Groothuis reflects on his role as his wife's primary caregiver. He shares with us his personal suffering and life’s dynamics in light of her illness, the ministry of the body of Christ, and how God is glorified through it all. How does one lament biblically? What are some practical ways in which the local church can minister to and help the suffering brother or sister? This topic is one that many of us have or will face one day. Listen closely and learn about lamentation from the tender heart of a philosopher. Show Notes Know more about Douglas Groothuis Dr. Groothuis’ 2015 article Primary Progressive Aphasia

The latest Barna Research Institute survey was recently released, and the Magnificent Three break down the results. Although the Barna definition of a “Bible-believing Christian” is a bit broader than ours, the poll results are still quite compelling. It appears the number of believers in fundamental Christian truths has significantly decreased in the past few decades, so the team considers the implications of that change and what factors may have contributed to it. How can the Church keep its house in order—guarding the minds and souls of God’s sheep? And why is it important to believe the right things about God? Pull up a seat and join us! We are offering you the opportunity to win a free copy of None Greater: The Undomesticated Attributes of God. Register!

As many states' governments are talking about a “phased” reopening from the COVID-19 lockdown, our quarantined trio –bound in three different states—is asking some important questions concerning going back to church. When might Christians be able to congregate in person? How will we “do church” as social distancing concerns remain? And, what might we discover when we finally gather? The crew considers the ethical dilemma of obeying governing authorities in accordance with the dictates of Romans 13 when—in some cases—such civil obedience might lead to Scriptural disobedience. How might the job of shepherding the flock change for church leaders in these days of new spiritual pathologies and—potentially—difficult financial struggles. Can we get back to normal now? Then again, what is “normal?” Listen to the end and enjoy the encouraging words of God’s promise to his people. And hear why our Englishman Carl, who has always believed that hugging should be banned, is "living the dream!" Register for the opportunity to win a copy of the wonderful resource, Living in God’s Two Kingdoms by David VanDrunen. The books are a gift from our friends at Crossway.

As they continue “social distancing,” the team gets together virtually with Matthew Barrett. He’s associate professor of Christian Theology at Midwestern Baptist Theological Seminary in Kansas City, executive editor of Credo Magazine, and author and editor of several great theological books. His latest—Canon, Covenant, and Christology—is the topic of today’s conversation. Barrett encourages us to read Scripture more like Christians and not like deists. We can do so, Matthew suggests, by observing what he calls the “fuller sense”…by recognizing the divine authorial intent, and observing how the story of salvation progresses from the Old to the New Testament…as the ultimate author and character in this story brings all things to culmination. Barrett explains how Jesus himself uses typology and how it plays a fundamental role in one’s reading and interpretation of Scripture. Don’t miss it! We have a few copies of Canon, Covenant, and Christology.Register for the opportunity to win one!

Defendant Aimee Byrd is called in, and the trial has begun. She’s representing herself in the court case, The Patriarchy vs. Recovering from Biblical Manhood and Womanhood. It is alleged that the defendant is the ringleader in an underground hysterical feminist movement. Among her crimes: refusing to be barefoot and confined to a yellow wallpapered kitchen making sandwiches for men. Byrd is also considered a dangerous threat for being an avid student of theology, and for possessing the ability to peel and mash a sack of potatoes with her ever-present nunchucks. Two men are called to play the devil’s advocate by interrogating the defendant. Will the evidence be enough to exonerate Byrd, or will she face the same fate as Anne Hutchinson? Listen in as Aimee makes a case for her new book. Be prepared for some surprising statements and to learn that gynocentric interruption is not a medical condition. Register for an opportunity to win a copy of Recovering from Biblical Manhood and Womanhood. The books are a courtesy of our friends at Zondervan.

A listener sends a question via paper airplane, in accordance with social distancing guidelines, and the crew responds from the quarantine bunker. Due to reports of some cases of conversion to Roman Catholicism by a few Reformed ministers, theologians, and laypeople, said listener is intrigued if Reformed Theology tends to steer Protestants towards the Roman Catholic Church—more than, say, the average Baptist or other evangelical beliefs. Can we pinpoint a specific cause or a set of factors as the driving force leading Reformed Christians to Rome? What could be some of the possible attractions of Roman Catholicism? Put on your mask and listen in! Be sure to visit our website, Reformation21.org, and our store for more resources.

The team is excited to welcome an old friend and returning guest. Michael Kruger is the president of Reformed Theological Seminary in Charlotte, NC, and professor of New Testament and Early Christianity. He’s contributed much to the Reformed theological world with his writings about the Canon and scriptural authority. Recently, Michael has written on a more popular and ever-current topic. The Ten Commandments of Progressive Christianity is a small, easy to read book that provides a cautionary look at what are, in essence, ten very appealing half-truths. Why is progressivism so attractive and persuasive? Michael talks about false dichotomies…how always assuming the best of people can sometimes be harmful…and how to discern the full system of thought an author draws from. Does Progressivism affirm that questions are more important than answers? Don’t miss Carl’s answer based on a profound quote from the movie Kung Fu! We are pleased to give away copies of Michael’s book. Register for the opportunity to win one. The copies are a complimentary gift from our friends at Cruciform Press.

After a quick break, the crew just had to return to the pandemic topic, as they remain in bunker lockdown. Stay-at-home orders and global shutdowns have had a huge impact on how we do almost everything—including, how we “do church.” What do church membership and commitment to the local body look like in times like this? How can one be a faithful Christian—serving one other, giving, loving our neighbor—when regular gatherings are not possible? You’re about to hear a case for tithes and offerings—giving when you miss church—along with the implications of not doing so in times of need for the brethren and the community at large. Not to mention, a few suggestions for ways in which we can serve the most vulnerable. Visit MortificationofSpin.org to read the blogs, and log on at ReformedResources.org to check out what's available at the Alliance of Confessing Evangelicals’ online store.

The Spinners are quarantined in the underground bunker and take a break from all the pandemic talk to address a listener question: What should a church be looking for when searching for a new pastor, and how might they go about it? Of course, a candidate’s online presence can tell much about who he is and how he treats people. What else may be used as reliable indicators of character? What are some ways to assess the prospective pastor’s family life? Does he love and treat his wife and children well? Might the applicant's sermons reveal not only his theology, but also his character and the way he views others? Does he view himself as a shepherd or CEO? The team offers some valuable tips on gathering information about a prospective pastor. Cruise to MortificationofSpin.org to read the blogs, and visit ReformedResources.org to check out what's available at the Alliance of Confessing Evangelicals online store.

This is a special pandemic edition of The Spin, as Carl, Todd, and Aimee record—not just 6 feet away, but—100 miles distant from one another, just to be on the safe side. COVID-19 times can be challenging, and they’ve afforded Todd a new opportunity to complement his pastoral calling. The megachurch minister is now a gifted “Mental Toughness Expert,” and he’s making his services available when churches are unable to meet, due to mandatory isolation. Seriously…what do Christians lose when they can’t meet to worship? Is online “church” a good substitute? What could be the lasting effects of not physically assembling with the saints on the Lord’s Day? And, most intriguingly: is social distancing turning some Roman Catholics into Lutherans? Check our website for valuable resources, and—if you’re so inclined--make a donation to help keep us afloat! Show Notes · Moral Matters: A Philosophy of Homecoming by Mark Dooley