Marketing Against The Grain

What’s brand taste and why is it so important? Kipp and Kieran dive deep into the world of brand taste using tangible examples of real-life brands that used emerging technology to align with their target audience, how to capture consumer excitement, how to be a front runner on trends, partnering with adjacent brands to raise your cultural impact, and more! Links Mentioned: Degenerate Apes https://www.degenape.academy/ Blank Soles https://www.blanksoles.com/ Chipotle’s Proof of Steak campaign https://twitter.com/chipotletweets/status/1574813978848595972 We’re on Twitter! Follow us for everyday marketing wisdom straight to your feed https://twitter.com/matgpod Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain! Don’t forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934 If you love this show, please leave us a 5-Star Review https://link.chtbl.com/h9_sjBKH and share your favorite episodes with friends. We really appreciate your support. Host Links: Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat ‘Marketing Against The Grain’ is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by The HubSpot Podcast Network // Produced by Darren Clarke.

How do you grow a podcast from 0-70k monthly downloads in 6 months? Kipp and Kieran take YOU behind the scenes of what works and what doesn’t when growing a podcast - how we found an unfair advantage to grow, what you need to do to launch your own podcast, and how we’re improving our next strategy. Shoutout to Akseli and PRPro1286 for their reviews/questions! Do YOU want to be the next featured listener? Leave a review on Apple Podcasts and we may feature you next. We’re on Twitter! Follow us for everyday marketing wisdom straight to your feed https://twitter.com/matgpod Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain! Don’t forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934 If you love this show, please leave us a 5-Star Review https://link.chtbl.com/h9_sjBKH and share your favorite episodes with friends. We really appreciate your support. Host Links: Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat ‘Marketing Against The Grain’ is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by The HubSpot Podcast Network // Produced by Darren Clarke.

What the heck is a framework and how will it change your life? Kipp and Kieran give you 3 crucial frameworks that YOU can use as your playbook to grow your business - on how to get aligned with your team, how you can go to market, and how to hire and build your team for success. Links mentioned: Spotify’s framework https://blog.crisp.se/2016/06/08/henrikkniberg/spotify-rhythm Brian’s 4 growth frameworks https://www.reforge.com/the-road-to-100m Article by Julia Stiglitz https://medium.com/gsv-ventures/a-startup-hiring-framework-f451fdd8f6d9 If you like this episode, be sure to check out our related episodes (perfect for your next binge-listen): EP 47 on 10 First Principles That Will Change Your Business & Life https://link.chtbl.com/-XYDzcSa We’re on Twitter! Follow us for everyday marketing wisdom straight to your feed https://twitter.com/matgpod Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain! Don’t forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934 If you love this show, please leave us a 5-Star Review https://link.chtbl.com/h9_sjBKH and share your favorite episodes with friends. We really appreciate your support. Host Links: Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat ‘Marketing Against The Grain’ is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by The HubSpot Podcast Network // Produced by Darren Clarke.

How can you use your budget to become a top player in your category? Kipp and Kieran dive into how you can do marketing across a different range of budgets ($1k-$10m), the best marketing strategy for under $5, what you need to continue to perfect at every stage, when to invest in your content, and more! Links Mentioned: Tribe Scaler https://tribescaler.com/ Runway https://runwayml.com/ Ship30for30 https://www.ship30for30.com/ We’re on Twitter! Follow us for everyday marketing wisdom straight to your feed ➡️ https://twitter.com/matgpod Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain! Don’t forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934 If you love this show, please leave us a 5-Star Review https://link.chtbl.com/h9_sjBKH and share your favorite episodes with friends. We really appreciate your support. Host Links: Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat ‘Marketing Against The Grain’ is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by The HubSpot Podcast Network // Produced by Darren Clarke.

What’s the difference between an audience vs. a community? Greg Isenberg (Co-Founder/CEO at Late Checkout) joins the show to discuss what a community-based product is, why community is a better business model, real companies who utilize token technology to build loyalty, and more! Who is Greg Isenberg? Greg Isenberg is the Co-Founder of Late Checkout, a web3 and community product studio and agency that designs, creates, and acquires internet communities. Besides building internet communities, he is also a growth advisor at TikTok and a venture partner at Indicator Ventures, a tech venture fund. Previously, Greg was the Head of Product Strategy at WeWork, the founder/CEO of Islands, a messaging/community app acquired by WeWork, and the Founder/CEO of 5by, a leading video discovery app acquired by StumbleUpon. He helps build marketing and web3 strategies, communities, and technology products for brands like TikTok, FedEx, NASCAR, TechCrunch, and WordPress. Check out Greg’s work! Late Checkout https://latecheckout.studio/ Twitter https://twitter.com/gregisenberg LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/gisenberg/ We’re on Twitter! Follow us for everyday marketing wisdom straight to your feed https://twitter.com/matgpod Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain! Don’t forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934 If you love this show, please leave us a 5-Star Review https://link.chtbl.com/h9_sjBKH and share your favorite episodes with friends. We really appreciate your support. Host Links: Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat ‘Marketing Against The Grain’ is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by The HubSpot Podcast Network // Produced by Darren Clarke.

How can NFTs be supplemental to your business? Kipp and Kieran are joined by Katie Chen (CEO/Co-Founder at Kairos) to chat all things NFTs - future use cases for your business, how you can use NFTs to create more loyalty around your customers/employees, and how this tokenized technology will bring more ownership to your users, and more! Who is Katie Chen? Katie Chen is the CEO and co-founder Kairos, a company creating a suite of no-code tools to enable creation, publishing, selling and adoption of NFTs for the masses. Previously, they have lead product design at Airbnb and Slack. Check out Katie’s work! Kairos http://kairos.art Twitter https://twitter.com/8apixel LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/katiepchen/ We’re on Twitter! Follow us for everyday marketing wisdom straight to your feed https://twitter.com/matgpod Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain! Don’t forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934 If you love this show, please leave us a 5-Star Review https://link.chtbl.com/h9_sjBKH and share your favorite episodes with friends. We really appreciate your support. Host Links: Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat ‘Marketing Against The Grain’ is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by The HubSpot Podcast Network // Produced by Darren Clarke.

Are problems more important than solutions? Kipp and Kieran take you on a behind-the-scenes look at their transformative operating system for life. Press play to learn how to optimize for the upside, do things in a counterintuitive way, find the commonalities, and how YOU can apply these principles to transform your business and everyday life. Which principle resonated most with you? Tweet us or leave us a review on Apple Podcasts and let us know what you think! Links Dr. Lex Friedman on Huberman Lab Podcast https://hubermanlab.com/dr-lex-fridman-machines-creativity-and-love/ We’re on Twitter! Follow us for everyday marketing wisdom straight to your feed https://twitter.com/matgpod Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain! Don’t forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934 If you love this show, please leave us a 5-Star Review https://link.chtbl.com/h9_sjBKH and share your favorite episodes with friends. We really appreciate your support. Host Links: Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat ‘Marketing Against The Grain’ is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by The HubSpot Podcast Network // Produced by Darren Clarke.

In 1995 46% of Americans trusted TV news, today that’s only 11%. Join Kipp Bodnar and guest Katie Burke (CPO @ HubSpot) on this special episode live at INBOUND. Press play to find out how to win in a market with messaging discipline, how to think about investing in PR, how to approach your influencer strategy, how to know if your PR is ACTUALLY working, and more! Links: MironkoProductions.com IG: https://www.instagram.com/MIRONKOPRODUCTIONS/ Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain! Don’t forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934 If you love this show, please leave us a 5-Star Review https://link.chtbl.com/h9_sjBKH and share your favorite episodes with friends. We really appreciate your support. Host Links: Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat ‘Marketing Against The Grain’ is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by The HubSpot Podcast Network // Produced by Darren Clarke.

How do you measure the success of your go-to community? Patrick Woods (CEO of Orbit) joins the show to dive deep into what a go-to community is, how to organize and build your own community, believe in your purpose before your product, measure the long-term community-driven investments, and more! Who is Patrick Woods? Patrick is co-founder and CEO of Orbit, the leading community growth platform. With over 10 years of marketing and customer success experience, he’s worked with business leaders from some of the world’s fastest-growing businesses to leverage the power of community. He’s the co-creator of the Orbit Model, host of the Developer Love podcast, and is the author of the Brand Strategy Canvas. Check out Patrick’s work! LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/patrickjwoods/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/patrickjwoods Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain! Don’t forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934 If you love this show, please leave us a 5-Star Review https://link.chtbl.com/h9_sjBKH and share your favorite episodes with friends. We really appreciate your support. Host Links: Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat ‘Marketing Against The Grain’ is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by The HubSpot Podcast Network // Produced by Darren Clarke.

Is traditional hiring a broken system? Kipp and Kieran dive into what everyone gets wrong during the hiring process - hiring for experience vs. potential, what hiring managers are doing wrong, understanding the candidate’s motivation, hiring the outliers, and if problem-solving skills are interchangeable. Shoutout to all the listeners who have sent in questions and reviews! Do YOU want to be featured in the next episode? Leave a question or review in Apple Podcasts, and we may feature you next! Links Mentioned: Tweet from Sam Altman https://twitter.com/sama/status/1554481634375741442 Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain! Don’t forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934 If you love this show, please leave us a 5-Star Review https://link.chtbl.com/h9_sjBKH and share your favorite episodes with friends. We really appreciate your support. Host Links: Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat ‘Marketing Against The Grain’ is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by The HubSpot Podcast Network // Produced by Darren Clarke.

How should you think about marketing at every stage of your startup? Sumaiya Balbale, CMO at Sequoia Capital, joins the show to chat all things marketing for startups: How you’re going to position yourself relative to the customer, Articulating your value proposition & context to the customer, What most founders get wrong on product marketing, the importance of being an expert in the customer’s pain points, and more! Who is Sumaiya Balbale? Sumaiya is CMO at Sequoia Capital. Prior to that, Sumaiya led the transformation of digital media, social media, marketing analytics, and marketing technology capabilities as the Vice President of E-commerce, Mobile, and Digital Marketing for Walmart US from January 2017 to February 2019. Sumaiya is a graduate of Harvard Business School and Brown University. She was named one of Fortune’s 40 under 40 in 2018. Check out Sumaiya’s work! Website https://www.sequoiacap.com/ LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/sumaiya-balbale/ Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain! Don’t forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934 If you love this show, please leave us a 5-Star Review https://link.chtbl.com/h9_sjBKH and share your favorite episodes with friends. We really appreciate your support. Host Links: Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat ‘Marketing Against The Grain’ is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by The HubSpot Podcast Network // Produced by Darren Clarke.

Holy sh*t. YouTube has officially entered the chat for podcasts. What does this mean for marketers? Kipp and Kieran do an emergency episode to unravel the massive opportunity for podcasts - how this creates whole new discoverability for podcasts, why this will matter for your business strategy, the massive opportunities to target listeners, how this completely changes the landscape of podcasts, and so much more! Links Mentioned: YouTube podcasts page https://www.youtube.com/podcasts Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain! Don’t forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934 If you love this show, please leave us a 5-Star Review https://link.chtbl.com/h9_sjBKH and share your favorite episodes with friends. We really appreciate your support. Host Links: Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat ‘Marketing Against The Grain’ is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by The HubSpot Podcast Network // Produced by Darren Clarke.

Does intellectual property help your brand differentiate? How can you use IP to extend your brand? Kipp and Kieran dive deep into the world of IP and tap into all the opportunities that will take your brand to the next level. Listen for how you can use your IP to make creative strategies for your brand, what it takes to leverage your IP, category creation for IP, and more! Links Mentioned: Tweet from Zach Weinberg https://twitter.com/zachweinberg/status/1559171487394824194?s=21&t=LIxZx-AkA_9CR379eW0ckA Tweet from Sam Bankman-Fried https://twitter.com/sbf_ftx/status/1558761957825593345?s=21&t=LIxZx-AkA_9CR379eW0ckA Nouns NFT https://nouns.wtf/ Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain! Don’t forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934 If you love this show, please leave us a 5-Star Review https://link.chtbl.com/h9_sjBKH and share your favorite episodes with friends. We really appreciate your support. Host Links: Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat ‘Marketing Against The Grain’ is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by The HubSpot Podcast Network // Produced by Darren Clarke.

What is the role of community at an organization? Anu Atluru joins the show to debate the true definition of community, how community differs from a start-up to an established company, ​​advice to leaders who want to build their own communities, and answer the question: is there a disconnect between product and go-to-market? and more! Who is Anu Atluru? Anu is a startup builder, angel investor, and writer. She’s passionate about building consumer and social products and helping early-stage teams tackle community, product, and go-to-market challenges. Most recently, she spent 2 years at Clubhouse — building zero to one, serving as its first Head of Community, and helping grow from ~1000 users to millions globally and a team of 3 to 100+. Check out Anu’s work! Website https://anuatluru.com/ Twitter https://twitter.com/anuatluru LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/anuatluru/ Substack https://anu.substack.com/ Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain! Don’t forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934 If you love this show, please leave us a 5-Star Review https://link.chtbl.com/h9_sjBKH and share your favorite episodes with friends. We really appreciate your support. Host Links: Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat ‘Marketing Against The Grain’ is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by The HubSpot Podcast Network // Produced by Darren Clarke.

Will AI help marketers do better work? Kipp and Kieran dive deep into the logistics of AI and what the impact will be on the marketing world - How AI will change the way businesses market and grow, Kipp’s AI 2x2, the struggle to differentiate, where AI falls short, and more! Links Mentioned: Tweet from Sam Altman https://twitter.com/sama/status/1484950632331034625 Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain! Don’t forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934 If you love this show, please leave us a 5-Star Review https://link.chtbl.com/h9_sjBKH and share your favorite episodes with friends. We really appreciate your support. Host Links: Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat ‘Marketing Against The Grain’ is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by The HubSpot Podcast Network // Produced by Darren Clarke.

Why do employees choose remote work? Kipp and Kieran dive deep into Malcolm Gladwell’s (wrong) take on remote work, how remote flexibility will impact your marketing, what to focus on if your business accelerated or decelerated during the pandemic, and practical tips on how to build engaging remote teams, and more! Links Mentioned: Tweet from Ryan Denehy on managers who can only scale through headcount https://twitter.com/DenehyXXL/status/1556387871992463362 Tweet from Sheel Mohnot on Naval not checking emails anymore https://twitter.com/pitdesi/status/1556087444889489408 Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain! Don’t forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934 If you love this show, please leave us a 5-Star Review https://link.chtbl.com/h9_sjBKH and share your favorite episodes with friends. We really appreciate your support. Host Links: Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat ‘Marketing Against The Grain’ is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by The HubSpot Podcast Network // Produced by Darren Clarke.

As the world continues to evolve, you must adapt. What does that look like in a world of ever-changing new jobs? Kipp and Kieran look deep into their crystal ball to predict the jobs of the future, what skills you need now that will skyrocket your success, roles that will diminish in the future (hint: AI), and more! Do YOU want to be featured on the next episode? if you have ideas for roles in the future that you think we’ve missed, leave your name and review, and we may feature you next! Links Mentioned: Greg Isenberg’s tweet on community designers https://twitter.com/gregisenberg/status/1553742250848419840 PWR WMN, women blazers https://www.pwrwmn.shop/ Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain! Don’t forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934 If you love this show, please leave us a 5-Star Review https://link.chtbl.com/h9_sjBKH and share your favorite episodes with friends. We really appreciate your support. Host Links: Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat ‘Marketing Against The Grain’ is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by The HubSpot Podcast Network // Produced by Darren Clarke.

How do you get your product or service out there in a cost-effective way? Kipp and Kieran deep dive into how YOU can build a world-class distribution playbook, taking advantage of core early ad arbitrage opportunities, the importance of video-first, choosing consumer trends that will grow, and more! Links Mentioned: Derek Thompson’s tweet on how people spend their time https://twitter.com/DKThomp/status/1549392226530332674 Anu Alturu’s article on 25 things she learned at Clubhouse https://anu.substack.com/p/what-i-learned-at-clubhouse- Kieran’s tweet on building HubSpot’s demand engine ​​https://twitter.com/searchbrat/status/1549058266344341507 Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain! Don’t forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934 If you love this show, please leave us a 5-Star Review https://link.chtbl.com/h9_sjBKH and share your favorite episodes with friends. We really appreciate your support. Host Links: Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat ‘Marketing Against The Grain’ is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by The HubSpot Podcast Network // Produced by Darren Clarke.

How can smaller marketing teams positively affect change in organizations that don’t believe in spending money on marketing? Kipp and Kieran dive deep into the world of career growth - The mental models & frameworks to build on your career, applying your knowledge to your marketing work (with Kipp’s learning hacks), the importance of working at organizations that value marketing, and more! Shoutout to Jake McConnel for sending in his review and question! Do YOU want to be featured in the next episode? Drop your question and review in Apple Podcasts for a chance to be featured next. If you like this episode, check out our episode on leadership that helps drive growth! https://link.chtbl.com/vBvHDNRB Links: The Office Ladies Episode 129 “Body Language” https://officeladies.com/episodes/2022/20/07/episode-129-body-language Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain! Don’t forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934 If you love this show, please leave us a 5-Star Review https://link.chtbl.com/h9_sjBKH and share your favorite episodes with friends. We really appreciate your support. Host Links: Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat ‘Marketing Against The Grain’ is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by The HubSpot Podcast Network // Produced by Darren Clarke.

It’s not just about your marketing strategy and skills, it’s about your ability to lead. Kipp and Kieran go all in on leadership - how to manage and empower your team, balancing iterative vs. exponential goals, relinquishing ownership as a leader, demystifying OKR models, and more! Links Andrew Gazdecki’s tweet on billboards for MicroAcquire https://twitter.com/agazdecki/status/1548666709317300224 Sundar Pichai’s tweet on OKRs https://twitter.com/sundarpichai/status/1543328071532523521 If you like this episode, check out our episode on how to beat the recession as a business leader! https://link.chtbl.com/kzRtKkNv Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain! Don’t forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934 If you love this show, please leave us a 5-Star Review https://link.chtbl.com/h9_sjBKH and share your favorite episodes with friends. We really appreciate your support. Links: Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat ‘Marketing Against The Grain’ is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by The HubSpot Podcast Network // Produced by Darren Clarke.

Go behind the scenes with Kipp and Kieran as they brainstorm fresh marketing ideas for real-life companies on how they can move their business forward with creative growth strategies and outside-of-the-box campaign ideas for Lemon.io and Bonjoro. Should we keep doing half-baked marketing ideas? Leave it in the reviews and let us know! Links Tim Urban’s tweet https://twitter.com/waitbutwhy/status/1546185857719205895 Lemon.io https://lemon.io/ Bonjoro https://www.bonjoro.com/ Carrd https://carrd.co/ If you like this episode, check out our episode with Salem Ilese for all things short-form content! https://link.chtbl.com/M8QfQbVu Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain! Don’t forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934 If you love this show, please leave us a 5-Star Review https://link.chtbl.com/h9_sjBKH and share your favorite episodes with friends. We really appreciate your support. Links: Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat ‘Marketing Against The Grain’ is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by The HubSpot Podcast Network // Produced by Darren Clarke.

How do you get maximum output from a single idea? Salem Ilese (singer and songwriter) joins the show to discuss how to grow your brand via TikTok, how to feed the algorithm, the importance of knowing your audience, and how to apply current trends to your content for higher reach, and more! Who is Salem Ilese? 22-year-old, Singer / Songwriter, Salem Ilese, has honed her craft of songwriting and performing for over half of her life and has found success as an artist in doing that with well over 1B streams accumulated to date across her own music and songs written for others. She has recently found community and embraced Web3 with her song Crypto Boy which raised ~169k for The Center for Reproductive Rights when released as an NFT in partnership with Nadya of Pussy Riot who contributed the art. Check out Salem’s work! ‘Crypto Boy’ song https://www.sound.xyz/salemilese/crypto-boy TikTok https://www.tiktok.com/@salemilese Instagram https://www.instagram.com/salemilese/ Twitter https://twitter.com/salemilese Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain! Don’t forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934 If you love this show, please leave us a 5-Star Review https://link.chtbl.com/h9_sjBKH and share your favorite episodes with friends. We really appreciate your support. Links: Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat ‘Marketing Against The Grain’ is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by The HubSpot Podcast Network // Produced by Darren Clarke.

How do you market to a difficult target audience? Do you market to the buyer or end user? Kipp and Kieran answer YOUR marketing questions on how to tailor a 2x2 for your business, using a series C content strategy as an early-stage startup, and more. Do you want your question to be featured in a future episode? Leave a review in Apple Podcasts with your question, name, and Twitter handle - and we may feature YOU next! Links Next Health https://www.next-health.com/ Katie Hardy https://twitter.com/KPmanHardy Crue https://www.yourcrue.com/ Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain! Don’t forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934 If you love this show, please leave us a 5-Star Review https://link.chtbl.com/h9_sjBKH and share your favorite episodes with friends. We really appreciate your support. Links: Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat ‘Marketing Against The Grain’ is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by The HubSpot Podcast Network // Produced by Darren Clarke.

How do you get started in media as a founder? Kipp and Kieran are joined by Patrick Campbell (Founder of Profitwell, CSO at Paddle) to discuss how to sell the marketing-first ideology to your founder, thinking about the editorial taste for your media company, creating interest in your product, and more! Who is Patrick Campbell? CSO at Paddle.com after recently founding and selling ProfitWell.com. Background in Economics and math. Started career working at NSA and Google before jumping into the tech world. Deep knowledge on subscription/SaaS market benchmarks, retention, inbound media, and pricing. Check out Patrick’s work! Twitter www.twitter.com/patticus LinkedIn www.linkedin.com/patrickccampbell More info on Profitwell joining Paddle https://twitter.com/Patticus/status/1529420966698287105?s=20&t=K1wSUC9SeAyf7o8Sh9-luQ Paddle www.paddle.com Profitwell https://www.profitwell.com/ Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain! Don’t forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934 If you love this show, please leave us a 5-Star Review https://link.chtbl.com/h9_sjBKH and share your favorite episodes with friends. We really appreciate your support. Links: Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat ‘Marketing Against The Grain’ is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by The HubSpot Podcast Network // Produced by Darren Clarke.

Where will consumer behavior go in the future? Kipp and Kieran go on a deep dive on all the ways you want to think about acquiring differently in the future, how to use your business model as a growth driver in the future, leveraging freemium businesses, and more! If you like this episode, check out our episode with Yuliya Bel, where we go deep into community-led growth! https://link.chtbl.com/r0sU4-CX Links: Tascha’s tweet on tokenomics https://twitter.com/TaschaLabs/status/1542583780409413633 Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain! Don’t forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934 If you love this show, please leave us a 5-Star Review https://link.chtbl.com/h9_sjBKH and share your favorite episodes with friends. We really appreciate your support. Links: Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat ‘Marketing Against The Grain’ is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by The HubSpot Podcast Network // Produced by Darren Clarke.

Why should tech companies be media companies? Kipp and Kieran are joined by Yuliya Bel (CEO and Co-Founder of Notus) to discuss (and debate) the importance of investing in good content & distribution, doubling down on the definition of community, answer the question - is community a tool for engagement or acquiring new customers? And more! Who is Yuliya Bel? ​​founder/CEO of Notus, passionate about cult-like growth and long walks in nature. Check out Yuliya’s work! Twitter https://twitter.com/ybelyayeva Notus https://getnotus.io/ Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain! Don’t forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934 If you love this show, please leave us a 5-Star Review https://link.chtbl.com/h9_sjBKH and share your favorite episodes with friends. We really appreciate your support. Links: Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat ‘Marketing Against The Grain’ is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by The HubSpot Podcast Network // Produced by Darren Clarke.

Is community-led growth an opportunity in the future? Kipp and Kieran get a tad bit controversial with their hot takes and tangible tips on company growth hacks, doing things you can’t directly measure in marketing (and how it can help you differentiate yourself), the number one thing that marketers today don’t know but will be everything in the future, and more! Plus! We answer YOUR questions. Do you want to be the next featured listener question? Leave your questions in the reviews and we may feature you next. Things Mentioned: Genius www.genius.com Canva www.canva.com Mirror www.mirror.co Airtable www.airtable.com Grammarly www.grammarly.com Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain! Don’t forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934 If you love this show, please leave us a 5-Star Review https://link.chtbl.com/h9_sjBKH and share your favorite episodes with friends. We really appreciate your support. Links: Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat ‘Marketing Against The Grain’ is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by The HubSpot Podcast Network // Produced by Darren Clarke.

Does the average user care about decentralization? Kipp and Kieran are joined by Peter Yang (Founder of Odyssey DAO) to discuss the behind-the-scenes of DAOs, the importance of ownership, what motivates a community, and answer the question: does decentralized technology matter? Who’s Peter Yang? Peter founded Odyssey DAO to onboard the next 1 million people to web3 through quality education. He is a product lead at Reddit and previously worked at Twitch, Twitter, and Facebook. Check out Peter’s work! Odyssey DAO https://www.odysseydao.com/ Twitter https://twitter.com/petergyang Blog https://creatoreconomy.so/ If you like this episode, check out our episode on the Lessons In Marketing Web 3 with Matthew Howells-Barby! https://link.chtbl.com/3x1YKGTI Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain! Don’t forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934 If you love this show, please leave us a 5-Star Review https://link.chtbl.com/h9_sjBKH and share your favorite episodes with friends. We really appreciate your support. Links: Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat ‘Marketing Against The Grain’ is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by The HubSpot Podcast Network // Produced by Darren Clarke.

How do you change the mindset and consideration of your customers around your business? Kipp and Kieran go deep on ALL things perception around your business. They discuss how to tell a transformational brand story, how to become the dominant player in your market, the importance of differentiated perception, the core lessons to change the perception of your business, and more! Plus! We answer YOUR questions. Shout out to Kishore Kothandaraman for leaving a review! Do you want to be the next featured listener question? Leave your questions in the reviews and we may feature you next. Links: Eight Sleep https://www.eightsleep.com/ Goldcast.io https://www.goldcast.io/ If you like this episode, check out our episode on 2x2s and how they can take your business to the next level! https://link.chtbl.com/bp45OmT5 Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain! Don’t forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934 If you love this show, please leave us a 5-Star Review https://link.chtbl.com/h9_sjBKH and share your favorite episodes with friends. We really appreciate your support. Links: Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat ‘Marketing Against The Grain’ is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by The HubSpot Podcast Network // Produced by Darren Clarke.

What brand was born in the recession and became one of the fastest-growing businesses in history? They turned down an offer from Google for $6 billion two years later. Kipp and Kieran go around the web and discuss the opportunities of short-form videos, best pricing strategies during a recession, tips for leaning into your best ideas, simplicity in storytelling, and more! Links: Groupon https://www.groupon.com/ Descript https://www.descript.com/ Andrew Mason, CEO of Descript https://twitter.com/andrewmason Alex Lieberman’s 60-second start-up video series https://twitter.com/businessbarista/status/1539601675081613312 If you like this episode, check out our episode with Alex Lieberman! https://link.chtbl.com/HSVtL8Jt Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain! Don’t forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934 If you love this show, please leave us a 5-Star Review https://link.chtbl.com/h9_sjBKH and share your favorite episodes with friends. We really appreciate your support. Links: Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat ‘Marketing Against The Grain’ is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by The HubSpot Podcast Network // Produced by Darren Clarke.

How do you make a marketing plan when you don’t have the final say, your community does? Kipp and Kieran are joined by Matthew Howells-Barby (CMO of Decentralized Games) to discuss the difference between being a web 2 vs. web 3 marketer, the community of ownership, what marketers need to learn to succeed in web 3, and more! Who is Matthew Howells-Barby? CMO @ Decentral Games, previously VP @ HubSpot. Investor and advisor in web3. Check out Matthew’s work: Decrypting Crypto Podcast https://open.spotify.com/show/6zramVU9gIBnVmGbqxRjfR?si=c693a23aaa1f4cd1&nd=1 Twitter www.twitter.com/matthewbarby LinkedIn www.linkedin.com/in/matthewbarby/ Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain! Don’t forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934 If you love this show, please leave us a 5-Star Review https://link.chtbl.com/h9_sjBKH and share your favorite episodes with friends. We really appreciate your support. Links: Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat ‘Marketing Against The Grain’ is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by The HubSpot Podcast Network // Produced by Darren Clarke.

Are Google and Facebook better today with the current level of advertising than they were 10 years ago? Kipp and Kieran take you on a deep dive through the future of web 3 and how it will impact the business world, the difficulty in reaching new customers (and how web 3 can help us), the importance of user experience, and more! Links: Bankless Media Interview Marc Andreessen & Chris Dixon of a16z https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXHITeaGB8Q Benedict Evans’ tweet on Meta https://twitter.com/benedictevans/status/1530148497227489281 Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain! Don’t forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934 If you love this show, please leave us a 5-Star Review https://link.chtbl.com/h9_sjBKH and share your favorite episodes with friends. We really appreciate your support. Links: Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat ‘Marketing Against The Grain’ is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by The HubSpot Podcast Network // Produced by Darren Clarke.

What is a 2x2 and how can it transform your business? Kipp and Kieran chat all things 2x2! What it is, how to come up with them, how you can use 2x2s when making hiring decisions, 3 ways they can transform your business, and more! Do you have a 2x2 you love? Leave it in the apple podcasts reviews and we will give you and your 2x2 a shoutout in an upcoming episode! Links: World Bollard Association’s Twitter https://twitter.com/WorldBollard Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain! Don’t forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934 If you love this show, please leave us a 5-Star Review https://link.chtbl.com/h9_sjBKH and share your favorite episodes with friends. We really appreciate your support. Links: Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat ‘Marketing Against The Grain’ is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by The HubSpot Podcast Network // Produced by Darren Clarke.

Why should marketers care about web 3? Kipp and Kieran discuss everything about web 3 and how it’ll impact your marketing and business, the opportunity of losing, how to push the envelope, how to make people care about your product (hint: solving their problems), and more! Links: Packy McCormick’s apology https://twitter.com/packyM/status/1533796764922400768 Nick Susi’s tweet on what web 2 was and what web 3 needs to be https://twitter.com/nicksusi/status/1530600672982335492 Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain! Don’t forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934 If you love this show, please leave us a 5-Star Review https://link.chtbl.com/h9_sjBKH and share your favorite episodes with friends. We really appreciate your support. Links: Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat ‘Marketing Against The Grain’ is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by The HubSpot Podcast Network // Produced by Darren Clarke.

The #1 question every founder asks us is: How do I hire my marketing leader? Kipp and Kieran go on a deep dive on how to categorize marketing leaders to your business needs, how to give your team the power to be successful in their roles, pitch real job postings to the audience (and give their hot takes on each), show how to pitch themselves to the founders as a candidate, and so much more! Do you have a job description that you want Kipp and Kieran to discuss (and potentially give their hot takes on)? Leave it in the reviews! Links: Fl0’s Head of Marketing job posting https://jobs.lever.co/fl0/d17051f6-8934-4239-801c-f1dfc01546bc Fl0’s founder, Dale Brett https://www.linkedin.com/in/dalebrett/ LoyaltyLion’s Chief Marketing Officer job posting https://loyaltylion.com/careers/chief-marketing-officer LoyaltyLion’s founder, Charlie Casey https://www.linkedin.com/in/charliecasey/ Jake from Suncut: Podcast editing subscriptions to scale your show https://www.suncut.co/ Emma from ThoughtSpot: business intelligence analytics search software https://www.thoughtspot.com/ John Ladaga wants to buy Kieran’s Chess NFT https://twitter.com/jj_ladaga/status/1529841989188997121 Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain! Don’t forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934 If you love this show, please leave us a 5-Star Review https://link.chtbl.com/h9_sjBKH and share your favorite episodes with friends. We really appreciate your support. Links: Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat ‘Marketing Against The Grain’ is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by The HubSpot Podcast Network // Produced by Darren Clarke.

How do you balance rationality and irrationality as a business leader? How do you position your company and product to disrupt the market? Kipp and Kieran go on a deep dive on how playing it safe is actually hurting your business, how to know when to hire a head of marketing vs. a product marketer, using emotions to position your product, and more! Plus, We answer one of YOUR questions. Shoutout to Fanny Kuhn for leaving their review! Do you want to be the next featured listener question? Leave your questions in the reviews and we may feature you next. Links Mentioned: Loom https://www.loom.com/ Sapiens by Yuval Noah Harari https://www.ynharari.com/book/sapiens-2/ The Hard Things About The Hard Things by Ben Horrowitz https://a16z.com/book/the-hard-thing-about-hard-things/ Hooked by Nir Eyal https://www.nirandfar.com/hooked/ Rework by Jason Fried https://www.amazon.com/Rework-Jason-Fried/dp/0307463745 The Platform Revolution https://www.amazon.com/Platform-Revolution-Networked-Markets-Transforming/dp/0393249131 Stratechery https://stratechery.com/ Not Boring Newsletter https://www.notboring.co/ The Hustle Newsletter https://thehustle.co/ Milk Road Newsletter https://www.milkroad.com/ Positioning The Battle for your Mind by Al Ries https://www.amazon.com/Positioning-Battle-Your-Al-Ries/dp/0071373586 Ready Player One by Ernest Cline https://www.amazon.com/Ready-Player-One-Ernest-Cline/dp/0307887448 Principles for The Changing World Order by Ray Dalio https://www.amazon.com/Changing-World-Order-Nations-Succeed/dp/1982160276 Shoe Dog by Phil Knight https://www.amazon.com/Shoe-Dog-Memoir-Creator-NIKE/dp/1471146723/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=1654105299&sr=1-1 Direct Mail Copy That Sells by Herschell Gordon Lewis https://www.amazon.com/Direct-Mail-Copy-That-Sells/dp/0132147505/ref=sr_1_3?crid=2544SEVJ4RL7Q&keywords=Direct+Mail+Copy+That+Sells&qid=1654105342&s=books&sprefix=direct+mail+copy+that+sells%2Cstripbooks%2C68&sr=1-3 On Writing Well by William Zinsser https://www.amazon.com/Writing-Well-Classic-Guide-Nonfiction/dp/0060891548/ref=sr_1_1?crid=30RQWSPYFT6FV&keywords=on+writing+well&qid=1654105374&s=books&sprefix=on+writing+well%2Cstripbooks%2C78&sr=1-1 New Rules of Marketing PR by David Meerman Scott https://www.davidmeermanscott.com/books/the-new-rules-of-marketing-and-pr The Rational Optimist by Matt Ridley https://www.amazon.com/Rational-Optimist-Prosperity-Evolves-P-s/dp/0061452068 Twitter Blue https://help.twitter.com/en/using-twitter/twitter-blue Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain! Don’t forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934 If you love this show, please leave us a 5-Star Review https://link.chtbl.com/h9_sjBKH and share your favorite episodes with friends. We really appreciate your support. Links: Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat ‘Marketing Against The Grain’ is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by The HubSpot Podcast Network // Produced by Darren Clarke.

As a business leader, how do you think about a recession, and what’s your approach? Hint: It’s not the strongest that will survive, but the ones who respond best to change. Kipp and Kieran give tangible advice on what will make or break your business in the next 24 months, companies that made strategic choices to grow, what happens if your targeting is too broad, and more! Plus, We answer one of YOUR questions. Shoutout to user Write.Edit.Repeat. for leaving their review! Do you want to be the next featured listener question? Leave your questions in the reviews and we may feature you next. Things Mentioned: Shaan Puri’s thread on companies that made strategic choices to grow https://twitter.com/ShaanVP/status/1529900270481596417 Tweet on Cinnamon Whiskey https://twitter.com/noahsfriedman/status/1529919311351009292 Tweet of Uber in Portland https://twitter.com/iamjasonlevin/status/1529901811183800331 Tweet on Aol CD delivery in US https://twitter.com/jonathansenin/status/1529917737547354112 Tweet on Cirque Du Soleil, Qualtrics, and Facebook https://twitter.com/grahamgintz/status/1529901696859656228 Andy John’s Twitter https://twitter.com/ibringtraffic Positioning: The Battle for Your Mind by Al Ries and Jack Trout https://www.ries.com/books/ Sequoia Capital’s presentation for portfolio companies https://content.fortune.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/Adapting_to_Endure_May_2022.pdf Alex Banks thread on takeaways from Sequoia Capital’s presentation https://twitter.com/thealexbanks/status/1529865275876659218 The Coddling of the American Mind by Greg Lukianoff and Jonathan Haidt https://www.thecoddling.com/ Patrick Coleman on free marketing advice https://twitter.com/patrickscoleman/status/1529495625380679680 Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain! Don’t forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934 If you love this show, please leave us a 5-Star Review https://link.chtbl.com/h9_sjBKH and share your favorite episodes with friends. We really appreciate your support. Links: Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat ‘Marketing Against The Grain’ is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by The HubSpot Podcast Network // Produced by Darren Clarke.

What’s a world-class brand that customers despise, but keep going back to? Hint: rhymes with Lion Air. Kipp and Kieran discuss why you need to fail to succeed, the importance of brand authenticity (with tangible examples), this founder newsjacking to showcase his company’s value props, and more! Things Mentioned: Ryan Air’s tweet mocking crypto boys https://twitter.com/Ryanair/status/1525083159725056002 Salem Ilese, Crypto Boy songwriter & artist https://twitter.com/salemilese Packy McCormick’s newsletter “Newton’s Alchemy” https://www.notboring.co/p/newtons-alchemy?s=r Rand Fishkin showcasing Spark Toro & Followerwonk’s power https://twitter.com/randfish/status/1525984071158931456 David Meerman Scott, author of “Newsjacking” https://twitter.com/dmscott https://www.newsjacking.com/ Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain! Don’t forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934 If you love this show, please leave us a 5-Star Review https://link.chtbl.com/h9_sjBKH and share your favorite episodes with friends. We really appreciate your support. Links: Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat ‘Marketing Against The Grain’ is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by The HubSpot Podcast Network // Produced by Darren Clarke.

Today our hosts are joined by a top marketer, Hannah Fleishman, to discuss leadership and management heuristics on how you can be an effective marketing leader. They also discuss how to be a leader vs. a manager, play a round of marketing cards against humanity, and more! Things Mentioned: Elon Musk’s tweet https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1522609829553971200 Jon Kabat Zinn https://www.mindfulnesscds.com/ Polygon x Meta Partnership https://twitter.com/0xPolygon/status/1523674225714036737 Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain! Don’t forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934 If you love this show, please leave us a 5-Star Review https://link.chtbl.com/h9_sjBKH and share your favorite episodes with friends. We really appreciate your support. Links: Hannah Fleishman, https://twitter.com/hbfleishman Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat ‘Marketing Against The Grain’ is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by The HubSpot Podcast Network // Produced by Darren Clarke.

It’s Monopoly with a marketing spin. Kipp and Kieran get creative with marketing strategies for monopoly properties. They’re talking about email marketing, outbound marketing tactics, brand marketing, and more! They also discuss the future of NFTs and how it can benefit your marketing strategies for growth. Plus they answer one of YOUR questions on how to be a marketing leader through each stage of an early-stage startup (with practical tips to get you started). Shoutout to breene13 for leaving this question in our Apple Podcast reviews! Do you want to be the next featured listener question? Leave your questions in the reviews and we may feature you next. Things mentioned: Peter Yang’s article “Are NFTs the Future of Subscriptions?” https://creatoreconomy.so/p/are-nft-memberships-the-future-of-subscriptions?s=r @AlexisOhanian’s tweet on NFTs https://twitter.com/alexisohanian/status/1521677108166246403 Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain! Don’t forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934 If you love this show, please leave us a 5-Star Review https://link.chtbl.com/h9_sjBKH and share your favorite episodes with friends. We really appreciate your support. Links: Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat ‘Marketing Against The Grain’ is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by The HubSpot Podcast Network // Produced by Darren Clarke.

How do you mobilize your community as an early-stage startup? Capri Wheaton joins Kipp and Kieran to talk about how to scale a community using unscalable tactics, creating feed-based hype around your product, using social dynamics to your advantage, and how she dropped out of Berkeley to start her fashion-tech company, and more! Who is Capri Wheaton? Dressd Founder and CEO, Capri Wheaton studied at the University of California, Berkeley, before stepping away to start the app company Dressd, expected to launch in May. In business since November 2021, Dressd is funded by Y Combinator, an investor in early-stage startups and such well-known companies as Airbnb, Dropbox, Reddit, Twitch, and Instacart. Plus, Checkout Capri’s work! IG: https://www.instagram.com/shop.dressd TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@shopdressd Twitter: https://twitter.com/Capri_lynnn LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/capri-wheaton-59863a199/ Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain! Don’t forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934 If you love this show, please leave us a 5-Star Review https://link.chtbl.com/h9_sjBKH and share your favorite episodes with friends. We really appreciate your support. Links: Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat ‘Marketing Against The Grain’ is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by The HubSpot Podcast Network // Produced by Darren Clarke.

How do you reduce the entry barrier for consumers as a marketer? Hint: Look at your customer touchpoints. Everette Taylor joins Kipp and Kieran to talk about making your brand more accessible, how to widen your target market, how to work with creators, and more! Who is Everette Taylor? Everette Taylor is Chief Marketing Officer for Artsy, the leading global marketplace for buying and selling art by the world's leading artists. A respected marketer, entrepreneur, and digital art-world leader, he joined Artsy in 2019 from ET Enterprises, which he founded in 2013, and where he served as CEO. At ET Enterprises—the parent company of six businesses—Everette drove 3X growth of the company during 2018 and was recognized as a Forbes 30 under 30 All-Star Alumni. In addition, Everette is an established public speaker and digital influencer. Plus, Checkout Everette’s work! Instagram https://www.instagram.com/everette/ Twitter https://twitter.com/everette Artsy https://www.artsy.net/ Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain! Don’t forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934 If you love this show, please leave us a 5-Star Review https://link.chtbl.com/h9_sjBKH and share your favorite episodes with friends. We really appreciate your support. Links: Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat ‘Marketing Against The Grain’ is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by The HubSpot Podcast Network // Produced by Darren Clarke.

Who will own the next generation of the internet? We’re talking about the ownership economy, Kipp and Kieran’s community frameworks, understanding the scarcity in utility, and more! Join hosts, Kipp Bodnar and Kieran Flanagan as they go on a Twitter deep dive on fascinating things and strategies that will help you take your business to the next. Links: From @ljin18 about “The Ownership Economy” https://twitter.com/ljin18/status/1519691235555958787 Kevin Kelly’s article “103 Bits of Advice I Wish I Had Known” https://kk.org/thetechnium/103-bits-of-advice-i-wish-i-had-known/ Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain! Don’t forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934 If you love this show, please leave us a 5-Star Review https://link.chtbl.com/h9_sjBKH and share your favorite episodes with friends. We really appreciate your support. Links: Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat ‘Marketing Against The Grain’ is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by The HubSpot Podcast Network // Produced by Darren Clarke.

You’ve heard of this game before, now here’s the Marketing twist to it. Where Kipp and Kieran go head to head on the first Double down, table stakes, and kill game - three different marketing strategies into each bucket. Warning: It gets a little controversial. You’ll hear their takes on: Is product the best go-to-market strategy? What is the best way to have marketing leadership? Is community a good growth strategy? And more! Things mentioned: Eight Sleep https://www.eightsleep.com/ ClickUp https://clickup.com/ Synthesis School https://www.synthesis.com/ Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain! Don’t forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934 If you love this show, please leave us a 5-Star Review https://link.chtbl.com/h9_sjBKH and share your favorite episodes with friends. We really appreciate your support. Links: Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat ‘Marketing Against The Grain’ is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by The HubSpot Podcast Network // Produced by Darren Clarke.

Why should brands care about the creator economy? Hint: There’s untapped power in independent creators for your brand. Kipp and Kieran are joined by Steph Smith to talk about all things creator economy. Plus: niche ways to target your audience, the business impact of creators, how to think about types of brand partnerships with creators, and more! Who is Steph Smith? Steph is a data-driven writer and growth marketer, with a passion for progressive, early-medium stage technology companies. Steph joined The Hustle as a Trends.co analyst, digging up trends that entrepreneurs could capitalize on. She led the product and grew it to 15k+ paying subscribers before being acquired by HubSpot. Now, she is a Director of Marketing at HubSpot, spearheading their work with creators under the Creator Program. Plus, check out Steph’s work! Website ​​https://stephsmith.io/ Podcast https://keeplearning.buzzsprout.com/ Twitter ​​https://twitter.com/stephsmithio Book https://doingcontentright.com/ Things mentioned: Sina Estavi, owner of the first tweet ever https://twitter.com/sinaEstavi Legos’ Spotify playlist https://open.spotify.com/album/6qZUya0mkucuxvoIp4akVT Barilla’s Pasta Spotify playlist https://open.spotify.com/user/w2p1oq867ns7jele6g3lw66fk/playlists KFC France’s Spotify playlist https://open.spotify.com/playlist/7KTq8F8YhZetRStWFNy0U4 Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain! Don’t forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934 If you love this show, please leave us a 5-Star Review https://link.chtbl.com/h9_sjBKH and share your favorite episodes with friends. We really appreciate your support. Links: Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat ‘Marketing Against The Grain’ is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by The HubSpot Podcast Network // Produced by Darren Clarke.

“What tips do you have for mid-level marketers to make an impact in their org this year?” We’re talking about how to get out of the sea of sameness to differentiate yourself as a marketer and as a brand to make an impact. Hint: It’s not the story, it’s how you tell it. Kipp and Kieran deep dive into this listener question on how to not tell the same story as everyone else (with actionable steps). Shoutout to Kenny Soto for leaving this question in our Apple Podcast reviews! Do you want to be the next featured listener question? Leave your questions in the reviews and we may feature you next. Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain! Don’t forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934 If you love this show, please leave us a 5-Star Review https://link.chtbl.com/h9_sjBKH and share your favorite episodes with friends. We really appreciate your support. Links: Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat ‘Marketing Against The Grain’ is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by The HubSpot Podcast Network // Produced by Darren Clarke.

There are now more NFTs than pages on the internet in 2010. Kipp and Kieran discuss what this means for our society with Alex Lieberman. Plus: The importance of critical thinking as a professional/entrepreneur (and the success framework around it), what makes an entrepreneur the most successful, how to scope out the bomb-sniffing dog of business, and more! Who is Alex Lieberman? Alex Lieberman is the co-founder and Executive Chairman of Morning Brew, a multi-platform business media brand. In October 2020, Alex & his co-founder (Austin Rief) sold a majority stake of Morning Brew to Business Insider for a reported $75 million. Plus, check out Alex’s podcasts Founder’s Journal https://foundersjournal.morningbrew.com/ Imposters https://imposters.morningbrew.com/ Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain! Don’t forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934 If you love this show, please leave us a 5-Star Review https://link.chtbl.com/h9_sjBKH and share your favorite episodes with friends. We really appreciate your support. Links: Alex Lieberman, https://twitter.com/businessbarista Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat ‘Marketing Against The Grain’ is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by The HubSpot Podcast Network // Produced by Darren Clarke.

What’s a great opportunity for brands and marketers? We’re talking intellectual property, genius licensing deals, and differentiating yourself from the competition. Join hosts, Kipp Bodnar and Kieran Flanagan as they go on a Twitter deep dive on fascinating things that will help you grow your business. Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain! Don’t forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934 If you love this show, please leave us a 5-Star Review https://link.chtbl.com/h9_sjBKH and share your favorite episodes with friends. We really appreciate your support. Links: Kipp Bodnar, https://www.hubspot.com/company/management/kipp-bodnar Kieran Flanagan, https://blog.hubspot.com/marketing/author/kieran-flanagan Twitter deep-dive links: @PirateApe coinbase tweet https://twitter.com/PirateApe/status/1513625770605879303 Kieran Flanagan's post on LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/posts/kieranjflanagan_incentives-are-the-secret-to-any-world-class-activity-6918162096702513152-mN46/ @Sama DALL-E Ai thread https://twitter.com/sama/status/1511724264629678084 @WolfofFranchises Dippin’ Dots thread https://twitter.com/franchisewolf/status/1513147851873865730 ‘Marketing Against The Grain’ is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by The HubSpot Podcast Network // Produced by Darren Clarke.

77% of searches on Mobile result in 0 clicks. Marketers, does this frighten or inspire you? Kipp and Kieran discuss what this means for the future of marketing with Ross Simmonds. Plus: The importance of intellectual property long-term (and how it affects the livelihood of your business) and how to tell a great story about your brand. Who is Ross Simmonds? Ross Simmonds is the founder & CEO of Foundation, a global marketing agency that provides services to organizations all over the world ranging from some of the fastest-growing startups to global brands. Ross sits on the board of directors for Volta Labs, Phoenix House, and Boys & Girls Club of Preston. Ross is also a well sought public speaker, an angel investor, and the author of multiple books. Plus, check out Ross Simmonds’ DREAM playbook on how to effectively distribute your content) https://training.foundationinc.co/dream Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain! Don’t forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934 If you love this show, please leave us a 5-Star Review https://link.chtbl.com/h9_sjBKH and share your favorite episodes with friends. We really appreciate your support. Links: Ross Simmonds, https://twitter.com/thecoolestcool Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat ‘Marketing Against The Grain’ is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by The HubSpot Podcast Network // Produced by Darren Clarke.

Listen as Kipp and Kieran brainstorm fresh marketing ideas to help five real businesses differentiate themselves. You’ll hear creative strategies for Sticky Tasks, Wurkr, Wisp, Toggl, and Stampede. Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain! Don’t forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934 If you love this show, please leave us a 5-Star Review https://link.chtbl.com/h9_sjBKH and share your favorite episodes with friends. We really appreciate your support. Links: Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat ‘Marketing Against The Grain’ is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by The HubSpot Podcast Network // Produced by Darren Clarke.