Leading Second Podcast

The leadership game changes for every generation. Millennials are almost 40 now and Gen Z are coming up on 25. Are you a Gen Z leader? Maybe you lead a team of them? If you don’t already, you’re sure to lead them in the very near future. Wherever you are on that scale, this conversation is for you! I hope this speaks to Gen Z leaders themselves, as well as to the pastors or people who are leading Gen Z. Our Conversation today is with Noah Herrin. Since the last time we had Noah on the Leading Second Podcast, he’s recently moved to Atlanta, GA where he is now on staff at Neighborhood Church. He is also the author of a new book! It’s called Viral Jesus: How One Man Broke the Algorithm Forever. I had such a great time talking to Noah about how we view and approach ministry today. We both have recently sat on the thought of digging the wells deeper in our own lives and truly focus ministry on making disciples. Those things don’t always come with big crowds and sexy titles but are so necessary. My hope in today’s conversation is that it will help us to be sharp and effective in leading a new generation of leaders and Christ followers called Gen Z.

This is the first installment of a series that we will be periodically doing called, 'I Am With You.' Where we sit down and have a conversation with a lead pastor and of their key team members. A couple of weeks ago, we had a live meet-up with Pastor Chris Durso and Ralph Castillo from Saints Church in New York. Chris has been planted at his father’s church for many years and was the youth and young adult pastor before being handed the role of the lead pastor, in January of this year. Talk about a crazy time to jump into the role of lead pastor. Ralph and Chris grew up together and have been doing ministry together for years, so their connection runs deep, as you will see as our conversation unfolds. They discuss the challenges that their relationship brings, but also the blessing that it's been for them. This episode is a fun glimpse into an incredible relationship of mutual honor and respect. This was a live meet-up, so on top of the questions that I had planned for Chris and Ralph, people who were tuned in and watching got to submit questions that they wanted to be answered by Chris and Ralph. There were some fantastic questions asked and we tried to get to as many of them as we could during our conversation. Be sure to join us for future meet-ups on our Leading Second Collective on Facebook, so you can join in and ask questions!

Join us as we have a conversation with truly life-saving potential for leaders of any capacity and people from any walk of life. We have John Morgan talking with us about identifying and guarding against division. John has been in ministry for more than three decades now, serving in many different roles. He is a coach, a strategist, and a communicator who lives to see the local church healthy and thriving. He works with leaders all over and personally helped shape the way that I thought when it comes to leading from the second chair. Today, division can come in so many forms in our lives. It can be found in churches, in marriages, in friendships, in work. This topic covers so many bases, but when we actively work against division and towards honor, we can see all of these areas in our lives healthy and thriving. John introduces and takes us through the honor slide, which goes from honor to familiarity, to contempt, to dishonor, and finally leads to division. But he then talks us through reversing that slide and bringing us back to honor. Please do not listen to this episode alone. Or if you do, send it to somebody so you can discuss it together afterward. This is such a needed conversation today.

For this episode, I have a conversation with our great friend Joshua Bingle. He is the Pastor of Genesis Church in Spokane, WA, and has such a brilliant mind. We talk all about the necessity of a Biblical Worldview (especially for those of us in Church leadership), postmodern thought, and digging wells. So many of the big conversations our culture is having this year really stem from the ecosystem of worldview. As young leaders, we can be tempted to jump on every trendy and popular train of thought that comes our way or looks good from a graphic on Instagram. But how often right now are we stopping to consider the gospel’s place in our worldview conversations? This is one area where those of us in leadership cannot afford to be trendy or popular. The well that we draw from matters. It is so important to have a deep well in Christ and draw the foundation for our thoughts from there. Unity is paramount in this season. Resources referenced in this episode are: Cynical Theories by Helen Pluckrose and James Lindsay Neil Shenvi’s Apologetics Why Revival Tarries by Leonard Ravenhill Born After Midnight by A.W. Tozer Resilient Faith by Gerald Sittser

There is a question I've been asking myself this summer. What does the message of authority sound like now, to a world that is increasingly "anti-authority?" Join me and our guest, Nicole Smithee, on this episode of the podcast as we wrestle with this complex question. Nicole is a friend of Leading Second who has joined us on the podcast before. In case you missed the last time she was with us, Nicole is on the team at Liberty Church in New York, which has campuses globally. She also co-founded an organization that is doing great things called Iridescent Women. In this conversation, here are a couple of questions that we cover: Why does living under authority matter to you? Where do you see this conversation going wrong in culture today? Do you find it a challenge to embrace the attitudes and thinking of a Kingdom, for those of us who live in a democracy? How has submitting to and honoring authority worked out in your life?

We are back to Season Three of the Leading Second podcast!! It is our honor to lead this tribe of UNCOMMON leaders. In this season, we believe that UNCOMMON leaders have never been so essential. We're picking back up with a conversation about the differences in Rebuilding vs. Reopening. It is a conversation for teams, not just individuals. So share this episode and don't listen alone. A bit has happened since our last episode, so we start things off with a little hello, share a few announcements, and some thoughts we had during our break. But if you want to jump right into the episode, it starts at 10:25. Are you just reopening, or are you rebuilding? With all of the challenges that churches are facing today, how you answer that question could determine a lot about how effective your ministry is right now. The lens that you choose to look through could be making a difference in your ministry and church. So join me today as we talk through five observations that I have from the book of Ezra. I hope and pray that these help you frame this season correctly and bring strength to you and your teams! We'd love to have you join in and continue this conversation at the Leading Second Collective on Facebook.

We sit down with Julian Lowe to have a crucial conversation. Joined by some of our favorite Leading Second leaders, we ask Julian for wisdom in a pivotal time in history. He gives us his perspective on race relations in the church and how to navigate supporting our pastor through this season. SUBSCRIBE COMMENT LIKE & SHARE We want you in our tribe! Stay connected to all Leading Second has to offer: Podcast: itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/leadi…d1352176626?mt=2 Website: leadingsecond.com Instagram: instagram.com/leadingsecond Connect with Brandon Stewart Facebook: facebook.com/brandonmstewart Instagram: instagram.com/brandonmstewart Twitter: twitter.com/brandonmstewart Leading Second is an extension of the Team Church tribe. For more information on Team Church Conference and One Day events, check-out teamchurchconference.com or search Team Church on Facebook.

The best leadership opportunity you'll ever have is leading the person you see in the mirror. To make this dream a reality you'll have to get in the leadership gym. While it's tempting to want everything to go "back to normal", we shouldn't try to leave this season prematurely. In difficult times our faith is forced out in the open and shows its true colors. What if this is exactly where God wants to do his work and lead you into a personal revival? SUBSCRIBE COMMENT LIKE & SHARE We want you in our tribe! Stay connected to all Leading Second has to offer: Podcast: itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/leadi…d1352176626?mt=2 Website: leadingsecond.com Instagram: instagram.com/leadingsecond Connect with Brandon Stewart Facebook: facebook.com/brandonmstewart Instagram: instagram.com/brandonmstewart Twitter: twitter.com/brandonmstewart Leading Second is an extension of the Team Church tribe. For more information on Team Church Conference and One Day events, check-out teamchurchconference.com or search Team Church on Facebook.

When job descriptions change and routines are flipped upside down, what do pastors expect from their team? This week we sit down with Pastor Kevin during the COVID-19 pandemic to see things from the pastor's perspective, as we continue our series on how to have a personal revival. During what may be the biggest transition in our lifetime, Pastor Kevin gives us the lead pastor perspective. SUBSCRIBE COMMENT LIKE & SHARE We want you in our tribe! Stay connected to all Leading Second has to offer: Podcast: itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/leadi…d1352176626?mt=2 Website: leadingsecond.com Instagram: instagram.com/leadingsecond Connect with Brandon Stewart Facebook: facebook.com/brandonmstewart Instagram: instagram.com/brandonmstewart Twitter: twitter.com/brandonmstewart Leading Second is an extension of the Team Church tribe. For more information on Team Church Conference and One Day events, check-out teamchurchconference.com or search Team Church on Facebook.

We're back! After a brief hiatus, the Leading Second is back for several weeks with some fresh content and perspective for all of us leading in this very critical time. There's no doubt in our minds that this season has been very recalibrating for all of us as leaders. We've put together several episodes that we pray will speak into your soul as a leader as we move forward into all that God has next for His Church! Welcome back to Season Three of the Leading Second Podcast. In that spirit, today's episode is the beginning of a series we're calling How to Have a Personal Revival. We all want to see God do something significant in our churches in this season. We're believing for nothing short of revival in the local church as a result of our current crisis. In today's episode, Brandon offers us a simple challenge - revival starts with me! He offers a strong and compelling perspective on this season we believe will speak to you and challenge you in your daily life. SUBSCRIBE COMMENT LIKE & SHARE We want you in our tribe! Stay connected to all Leading Second has to offer: Podcast: itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/leadi…d1352176626?mt=2 Website: leadingsecond.com Instagram: instagram.com/leadingsecond Connect with Brandon Stewart Facebook: facebook.com/brandonmstewart Instagram: instagram.com/brandonmstewart Twitter: twitter.com/brandonmstewart Leading Second is an extension of the Team Church tribe. For more information on Team Church Conference and One Day events, check-out teamchurchconference.com or search Team Church on Facebook.

This week, we had an online meet-up and incredible conversation with Larry Brey from Elevation Church. He is undoubtedly one of the best second chair leaders in the world, and it is our absolute honor every time we get a chance to have his voice in our tribe. He brings so much wisdom and timely advice in our current climate. We couldn’t let this conversation just be a one time deal, so we’re releasing it on the podcast this week. That means that we can all go back and listen again, or get some notes that we missed if you were with us for the meet-up. There was so much to take away from this conversation, so get ready to take notes and prepare your heart. This is a conversation that will impact you greatly right now if you allow it. SUBSCRIBE COMMENT LIKE & SHARE We want you in our tribe! Stay connected to all Leading Second has to offer: Podcast: itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/leadi…d1352176626?mt=2 Website: leadingsecond.com Instagram: instagram.com/leadingsecond Connect with Brandon Stewart Facebook: facebook.com/brandonmstewart Instagram: instagram.com/brandonmstewart Twitter: twitter.com/brandonmstewart Leading Second is an extension of the Team Church tribe. For more information on Team Church Conference and One Day events, check-out teamchurchconference.com or search Team Church on Facebook.

How blessed are we to lead in a season like never before for our generation? We are truly in the local church’s greatest hour, despite the rampant fear, anxiety, and confusion that swirls around us, and quite possibly within us. Isaac Newton was faced with a similar situation in 1665 - and while sitting in his garden at home, an apple fell from a tree. The rest was history. Have you asked yourself the question of what good could come of this season? Of this situation? Not only for the church but for yourself. Point blank: Our pastors need us more than ever before - but what do they need exactly? Remember, first and foremost, we are all in this together! Join us for a bold locker room episode as Brandon Stewart shares with us a short guide on how to lead in these unprecedented times.

Have you ever been on an airplane? If you have, you’ve experienced functional leadership. The flight attendants have authority over you from the second that you step on that airplane. It doesn’t matter how smart you are, how much money you make, or even if you may know more about airplanes than the flight attendants. None of that matters. The flight attendants have been given authority over you for that flight, even though the pilot (or the airline) is the one who is ultimately responsible. In ministry, we will often be tasked with being submitted to a person who has functional authority over us, and we’ll likely have functional authority over somebody as well. How do we handle that tension in a healthy way? Join us for this week’s episode, as we sit down with Brandon and Lindsay Stewart, Kris Seibold, and Joshua Bingle to continue the conversation on the tension of authority vs submission. Head over to our digital magazine for some monthly questions on this tension. https://www.leadingsecond.com/post/authority-vs-submission-discussion-questions SUBSCRIBE COMMENT LIKE & SHARE We want you in our tribe! Stay connected to all Leading Second has to offer: Podcast Website Instagram Connect with Brandon Stewart: Facebook Instagram Twitter Leading Second is an extension of the Team Church tribe. For more information on Team Church Conference and One Day events, check-out teamchurchconference.com or search Team Church on Facebook.

Am I a leader or a follower? Do I take charge or do I sit back? Do I forge a new path or do I make a u-turn? If you are leading from the middle, the answer to all of these questions is yes. Yes, you lead. Yes, you follow. Yes, there are times where you are expected to take charge. Yes, there are times when you need to sit back. A lot of times, the answer is even yes, to both questions at the same time! This is the tension that we face of being in a place of authority vs. being in a place of submission. Leading from the middle will require you to live in both worlds frequently and be able to switch between both with ease. As we introduce this topic that we will be exploring all month long, our prayer is that God will use this topic to bring health to teams in the areas of authority and submission. Head over to our digital magazine for some monthly questions on this tension. https://www.leadingsecond.com/post/authority-vs-submission-discussion-questions

We're joined by Lindsay Stewart and Pastor Joshua Bingle for a discussion in a new panel format. When leading from the middle, we encounter numerous tensions that we are forced to navigate. However, just because tension exists doesn't mean that there's a problem. Let's learn how to manage tensions well. Discuss these questions with your team: 1. What is the greatest tension you are currently experiencing in your leadership journey? 2. Can you imagine God doing something good through this tension? Write down what you are believing God to do in your life through this situation. 3. The next time you experience this tension, what truth do you want to remember? Write down a verse that speaks truth over your situation, and put it somewhere memorable.

When you are leading from the middle, you will often experience tension. We’re not talking about disagreements with your leader or another team member. When we say tensions, we’re referring to the pressures we face as leaders in the second chair. There is a tension of being in charge, but also having somebody in charge of you. There is a tension in making sure you’re doing the right thing in a given situation. There is a tension in boundaries. When you lead in the second chair, you WILL face tensions. This season, we're going to explore the tensions common to leading from the middle. Our prayer is that you will navigate these tensions well, and that Jesus will play a beautiful song through your life. Show Credits: Host and Creator: Brandon Stewart Producer: Hayden Boyd Audio Editing: Clarke Burton Video Editing: Clarke Burton, Dion Wiebe Creative: Yellowbox Creative SUBSCRIBE COMMENT LIKE & SHARE We want you in our tribe! Stay connected to all Leading Second has to offer: Podcast: itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/leadi…d1352176626?mt=2 Website: leadingsecond.com YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCqchbxE4DF6HJzeYmr72OoQ Instagram: instagram.com/leadingsecond Facebook: Leading Second Forum www.facebook.com/groups/1763432817304646 Connect with Brandon Stewart Facebook: facebook.com/brandonmstewart Instagram: instagram.com/brandonmstewart Twitter: twitter.com/brandonmstewart Leading Second is an extension of the Team Church tribe. For more information on Team Church Conference and One Day events, check-out teamchurchconference.com or search Team Church on Facebook.

Happy New Year! As we head into a new decade, our prayer for you is that you wouldn’t just thrive in ministry... but that you would thrive spiritually. Too often in ministry, we can be guilty of succeeding in everything we’ve been asked to do, all while neglecting our own soul. This year we’re calling our tribe to have a personal revival. We believe that, as you do, Jesus will meet you and show Himself strong to you this year. Run strong for the Kingdom! Show Credits: Host and Creator: Brandon Stewart Producer: Clarke Burton SUBSCRIBE COMMENT LIKE & SHARE We want you in our tribe! Stay connected to all Leading Second has to offer: Podcast: itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/leadi…d1352176626?mt=2 Website: leadingsecond.com Instagram: instagram.com/leadingsecond Facebook: Leading Second Forum www.facebook.com/groups/1763432817304646 Connect with Brandon Stewart Facebook: facebook.com/brandonmstewart Instagram: instagram.com/brandonmstewart Twitter: twitter.com/brandonmstewart Leading Second is an extension of the Team Church tribe. For more information on Team Church Conference and One Day events, check-out teamchurchconference.com or search Team Church on Facebook.

Today’s podcast is our second installment of a series that we began last week, called “Culture Carriers,” where we talk to entire teams about their culture and what it means to lead on behalf of their pastor. This conversation is with a few team members at Fresh Life Church in Montana where Pastor Levi Lusko has built something that is thriving and has grown to multiple campuses in the western part of the United States. Show Credits: Host and Creator: Brandon Stewart Producer: Clarke Burton Content: Ryan Creglow Music: SUBSCRIBE COMMENT LIKE & SHARE We want you in our tribe! Stay connected to all Leading Second has to offer: Podcast: itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/leadi…d1352176626?mt=2 Website: leadingsecond.com Instagram: instagram.com/leadingsecond Facebook: Leading Second Forum www.facebook.com/groups/1763432817304646 Connect with Brandon Stewart Facebook: facebook.com/brandonmstewart Instagram: instagram.com/brandonmstewart Twitter: twitter.com/brandonmstewart Leading Second is an extension of the Team Church tribe. For more information on Team Church Conference and One Day events, check-out teamchurchconference.com or search Team Church on Facebook.

This is the first installment of a series we’re starting called Culture Carriers. For this first episode, I’m sitting down with the team at Shoreline City in Dallas, Texas, as we talk about culture, and being a culture carrier. Show Credits: Host and Creator: Brandon Stewart Producer: Clarke Burton Content: Ryan Creglow Music: SUBSCRIBE COMMENT LIKE & SHARE We want you in our tribe! Stay connected to all Leading Second has to offer: Podcast: itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/leadi…d1352176626?mt=2 Website: leadingsecond.com Instagram: instagram.com/leadingsecond Facebook: Leading Second Forum www.facebook.com/groups/1763432817304646 Connect with Brandon Stewart Facebook: facebook.com/brandonmstewart Instagram: instagram.com/brandonmstewart Twitter: twitter.com/brandonmstewart Leading Second is an extension of the Team Church tribe. For more information on Team Church Conference and One Day events, check-out teamchurchconference.com or search Team Church on Facebook.

This episode is kind of a two-for-one. We got a great listener question, that Brandon spends some time answering, about transition and knowing when it’s time. We also have a great conversation with Noah Herrin about being a young leader today. We talk through some of the challenges that come along with that, like building credibility and dealing with comparison. Show Credits: Host and Creator: Brandon Stewart Producer: Clarke Burton Content: Ryan Creglow Music: SUBSCRIBE COMMENT LIKE & SHARE We want you in our tribe! Stay connected to all Leading Second has to offer: Podcast: itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/leadi…d1352176626?mt=2 Website: leadingsecond.com Instagram: instagram.com/leadingsecond Facebook: Leading Second Forum www.facebook.com/groups/1763432817304646 Connect with Brandon Stewart Facebook: facebook.com/brandonmstewart Instagram: instagram.com/brandonmstewart Twitter: twitter.com/brandonmstewart Leading Second is an extension of the Team Church tribe. For more information on Team Church Conference and One Day events, check-out teamchurchconference.com or search Team Church on Facebook.

Jedidiah Thurner joins us on the podcast today with some truths and challenges about how we can better lead from the second chair. Your calling and your covenant are vital in serving and leading under your senior leader. Show Credits: Host and Creator: Brandon Stewart Producer: Clarke Burton Content: Ryan Creglow Music: SUBSCRIBE COMMENT LIKE & SHARE We want you in our tribe! Stay connected to all Leading Second has to offer: Podcast: itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/leadi…d1352176626?mt=2 Website: leadingsecond.com Instagram: instagram.com/leadingsecond Facebook: Leading Second Forum www.facebook.com/groups/1763432817304646 Connect with Brandon Stewart Facebook: facebook.com/brandonmstewart Instagram: instagram.com/brandonmstewart Twitter: twitter.com/brandonmstewart Leading Second is an extension of the Team Church tribe. For more information on Team Church Conference and One Day events, check-out teamchurchconference.com or search Team Church on Facebook.

Mental health is a big issue in today’s culture and few people tackle it like Kayla Stoecklein. God is raising Kayla up as a new, strong voice and advocate for mental health issues and I’m so honored that she sat down with us to share with the Leading Second podcast. She helps give language to some very real and difficult parts of ministry and in life. Show Credits: Host and Creator: Brandon Stewart Producer: Clarke Burton Content: Ryan Creglow Music: SUBSCRIBE COMMENT LIKE & SHARE We want you in our tribe! Stay connected to all Leading Second has to offer: Podcast: itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/leadi…d1352176626?mt=2 Website: leadingsecond.com Instagram: instagram.com/leadingsecond Facebook: Leading Second Forum www.facebook.com/groups/1763432817304646 Connect with Brandon Stewart Facebook: facebook.com/brandonmstewart Instagram: instagram.com/brandonmstewart Twitter: twitter.com/brandonmstewart Leading Second is an extension of the Team Church tribe. For more information on Team Church Conference and One Day events, check-out teamchurchconference.com or search Team Church on Facebook.

Whether you know it or not, you are in a fight for your life. Every single day, situations come up that require you to fight physically, mentally, and spiritually. There will be battles that you need to fight daily and this episode with Jodi Cameron will help you in making sure that you only fight the right battles. Join us as we hear about her new book “Fight of Your Life”. Show Credits: Host and Creator: Brandon Stewart Producer: Clarke Burton Content: Ryan Creglow Music: SUBSCRIBE COMMENT LIKE & SHARE We want you in our tribe! Stay connected to all Leading Second has to offer: Podcast: itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/leadi…d1352176626?mt=2 Website: leadingsecond.com Instagram: instagram.com/leadingsecond Facebook: Leading Second Forum www.facebook.com/groups/1763432817304646 Connect with Brandon Stewart Facebook: facebook.com/brandonmstewart Instagram: instagram.com/brandonmstewart Twitter: twitter.com/brandonmstewart Leading Second is an extension of the Team Church tribe. For more information on Team Church Conference and One Day events, check-out teamchurchconference.com or search Team Church on Facebook.

Do you have a dream that is in your heart but have hit some roadblocks? Maybe you don’t even see a way for that dream to come to fruition? This episode is for you. Pastor Dan Lord shares his incredible story of leading in the second chair; a long season of patience and honor while putting his dreams on the shelf; to where he is now, leading a healthy and life giving church. Show Credits: Host and Creator: Brandon Stewart Producer: Clarke Burton Content: Ryan Creglow Music: SUBSCRIBE COMMENT LIKE & SHARE We want you in our tribe! Stay connected to all Leading Second has to offer: Podcast: itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/leadi…d1352176626?mt=2 Website: leadingsecond.com Instagram: instagram.com/leadingsecond Facebook: Leading Second Forum www.facebook.com/groups/1763432817304646 Connect with Brandon Stewart Facebook: facebook.com/brandonmstewart Instagram: instagram.com/brandonmstewart Twitter: twitter.com/brandonmstewart Leading Second is an extension of the Team Church tribe. For more information on Team Church Conference and One Day events, check-out teamchurchconference.com or search Team Church on Facebook.

October is pastor appreciation month so we thought that we would do an episode on the phrase, “I am with you.” In 1 Samuel 14:7, Jonathan’s armor-bearer tells him, “Go ahead, I’m with you heart and soul.” That attitude and that verse have shaped Leading Second. In this episode, we talk about David’s mighty men and show that they had that very same attitude. Show Credits: Host and Creator: Brandon Stewart Producer: Clarke Burton Content: Ryan Creglow Music: SUBSCRIBE COMMENT LIKE & SHARE We want you in our tribe! Stay connected to all Leading Second has to offer: Podcast: itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/leadi…d1352176626?mt=2 Website: leadingsecond.com Instagram: instagram.com/leadingsecond Facebook: Leading Second Forum www.facebook.com/groups/1763432817304646 Connect with Brandon Stewart Facebook: facebook.com/brandonmstewart Instagram: instagram.com/brandonmstewart Twitter: twitter.com/brandonmstewart Leading Second is an extension of the Team Church tribe. For more information on Team Church Conference and One Day events, check-out teamchurchconference.com or search Team Church on Facebook.

This bonus episode is jam packed with goodness as Larry Brey speaks to the 7 things that may be exhausting your pastor. Giving our best allows our senior leaders the space to be their best as well. Sit back, relax, press play, and make sure you take notes because as Larry says, “if you become so comfortable with their voice that you’re not getting a new revelation writing something down, you are not in the seat that God has called you to be in.” Welcome to Season Two of the Leading Second Podcast. This podcast releases every Thursday morning. Show Credits: Host and Creator: Brandon Stewart Producer: Clarke Burton Content: Crystal Creglow Music: SUBSCRIBE COMMENT LIKE & SHARE We want you in our tribe! Stay connected to all Leading Second has to offer: Podcast: itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/leadi…d1352176626?mt=2 Website: leadingsecond.com Instagram: instagram.com/leadingsecond Facebook: Leading Second Forum www.facebook.com/groups/1763432817304646 Connect with Brandon Stewart Facebook: facebook.com/brandonmstewart Instagram: instagram.com/brandonmstewart Twitter: twitter.com/brandonmstewart Leading Second is an extension of the Team Church tribe. For more information on Team Church Conference and One Day events, check-out teamchurchconference.com or search Team Church on Facebook.

The creative space is a prominent one in churches, and rightfully so. We serve a creative God and the church should be a reflection of that, leading the way in creative spaces. But how do you get your teams to stay sharp and motivated when every single week is a deadline (or often multiple deadlines)? Welcome to Season Two of the Leading Second Podcast. This podcast releases every Thursday morning. Show Credits: Host and Creator: Brandon Stewart Producer: Clarke Burton Content: Ryan Creglow Music: SUBSCRIBE COMMENT LIKE & SHARE We want you in our tribe! Stay connected to all Leading Second has to offer: Podcast: itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/leadi…d1352176626?mt=2 Website: leadingsecond.com Instagram: instagram.com/leadingsecond Facebook: Leading Second Forum www.facebook.com/groups/1763432817304646 Connect with Brandon Stewart Facebook: facebook.com/brandonmstewart Instagram: instagram.com/brandonmstewart Twitter: twitter.com/brandonmstewart Leading Second is an extension of the Team Church tribe. For more information on Team Church Conference and One Day events, check-out teamchurchconference.com or search Team Church on Facebook.

We have a lot of fun with Chandler Boyce this week as I sit down with him and my wife, Lindsay, to talk about all things youth ministry. We discuss ways to make sure that you are leading yourself well, the importance of being able to hear what is on your pastor’s heart, and we even give you a few tips on making your students vomit! This conversation is a must-listen for not just youth leaders, but everybody in a leadership role. Welcome to Season Two of the Leading Second Podcast. This podcast releases every Thursday morning. Show Credits: Host and Creator: Brandon Stewart Producer: Clarke Burton Content: Ryan Creglow Music: SUBSCRIBE COMMENT LIKE & SHARE We want you in our tribe! Stay connected to all Leading Second has to offer: Podcast: itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/leadi…d1352176626?mt=2 Website: leadingsecond.com Instagram: instagram.com/leadingsecond Facebook: Leading Second Forum www.facebook.com/groups/1763432817304646 Connect with Brandon Stewart Facebook: facebook.com/brandonmstewart Instagram: instagram.com/brandonmstewart Twitter: twitter.com/brandonmstewart Leading Second is an extension of the Team Church tribe. For more information on Team Church Conference and One Day events, check-out teamchurchconference.com or search Team Church on Facebook.

Our friend Joshua Bingle joins us once again, as we take the Leading Second creed line by line. Explaining the why behind the what of our tribe and expanding on a thought that ultimately became Leading Second. Listen in and reignite that fire for leading second in your life and for those you serve under. Welcome to Season Two of the Leading Second Podcast. This podcast releases every Thursday morning. Show Credits: Host and Creator: Brandon Stewart Producer: Clarke Burton Content: Ryan Creglow Music: SUBSCRIBE COMMENT LIKE & SHARE We want you in our tribe! Stay connected to all Leading Second has to offer: Podcast: itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/leadi…d1352176626?mt=2 Website: leadingsecond.com Instagram: instagram.com/leadingsecond Facebook: Leading Second Forum www.facebook.com/groups/1763432817304646 Connect with Brandon Stewart Facebook: facebook.com/brandonmstewart Instagram: instagram.com/brandonmstewart Twitter: twitter.com/brandonmstewart Leading Second is an extension of the Team Church tribe. For more information on Team Church Conference and One Day events, check-out teamchurchconference.com or search Team Church on Facebook.

Does your calling come with conditions? Or is your leader able to ask of you what needs to be done, without having to think about it? This week, we talk with one of the best second chair leaders in the country. Larry Brey, from Elevation Church, joins us for a second time to discuss what our leaders need from us vs. what we need from them. Welcome to Season Two of the Leading Second Podcast. This podcast releases every Thursday morning. Show Credits: Host and Creator: Brandon Stewart Producer: Clarke Burton Content: Ryan Creglow Music: SUBSCRIBE COMMENT LIKE & SHARE We want you in our tribe! Stay connected to all Leading Second has to offer: Podcast: itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/leadi…d1352176626?mt=2 Website: leadingsecond.com Instagram: instagram.com/leadingsecond Facebook: Leading Second Forum www.facebook.com/groups/1763432817304646 Connect with Brandon Stewart Facebook: facebook.com/brandonmstewart Instagram: instagram.com/brandonmstewart Twitter: twitter.com/brandonmstewart Leading Second is an extension of the Team Church tribe. For more information on Team Church Conference and One Day events, check-out teamchurchconference.com or search Team Church on Facebook.

LIVE from Team Church Conference! In this special episode, we are joined by Pastor Dan Lord for a discussion on lessons he's learned about leading second by transitioning from the second chair to the first chair. SUBSCRIBE COMMENT LIKE & SHARE We want you in our tribe! Stay connected to all Leading Second has to offer: Podcast: itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/leadi…d1352176626?mt=2 Website: leadingsecond.com Instagram: instagram.com/leadingsecond Facebook: Leading Second Forum www.facebook.com/groups/1763432817304646 Connect with Brandon Stewart Facebook: facebook.com/brandonmstewart Instagram: instagram.com/brandonmstewart Twitter: twitter.com/brandonmstewart Leading Second is an extension of the Team Church tribe. For more information on Team Church Conference and One Day events, check-out teamchurchconference.com or search Team Church on Facebook.

In this episode, we sit down with Pastors Greg & Josh Surratt of Seacoast Church as they discuss what it’s been like to own the first and second chairs in the organization. Pastor Greg is the President of the ARC church planting network, and is founding pastor of Seacoast Church, which his son Josh now leads as Lead Pastor. Seacoast Church is a thriving church, reaching thousands of people very weekend at 13 locations… all for the past 30 years. Welcome to Season Two of the Leading Second Podcast. This podcast releases every Thursday morning. Show Credits: Host and Creator: Brandon Stewart Producer: Clarke Burton Content: Clarke Burton Music: SUBSCRIBE COMMENT LIKE & SHARE We want you in our tribe! Stay connected to all Leading Second has to offer: Podcast: itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/leadi…d1352176626?mt=2 Website: leadingsecond.com Instagram: instagram.com/leadingsecond Facebook: Leading Second Forum www.facebook.com/groups/1763432817304646 Connect with Brandon Stewart Facebook: facebook.com/brandonmstewart Instagram: instagram.com/brandonmstewart Twitter: twitter.com/brandonmstewart Leading Second is an extension of the Team Church tribe. For more information on Team Church Conference and One Day events, check-out teamchurchconference.com or search Team Church on Facebook.

On this bonus episode, we hope you'll be able to invest in yourself as Brandon shares a message on breaking the power of shame in our lives. We hope this is a deposit into your soul as you lead strong for the kingdom. Welcome to Season Two of the Leading Second Podcast. This podcast releases every Thursday morning. Show Credits: Host and Creator: Brandon Stewart Producer: Clarke Burton Content: Crystal Creglow Music: SUBSCRIBE COMMENT LIKE & SHARE We want you in our tribe! Stay connected to all Leading Second has to offer: Podcast: itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/leadi…d1352176626?mt=2 Website: leadingsecond.com Instagram: instagram.com/leadingsecond Facebook: Leading Second Forum www.facebook.com/groups/1763432817304646 Connect with Brandon Stewart Facebook: facebook.com/brandonmstewart Instagram: instagram.com/brandonmstewart Twitter: twitter.com/brandonmstewart Leading Second is an extension of the Team Church tribe. For more information on Team Church Conference and One Day events, check-out teamchurchconference.com or search Team Church on Facebook.

On this episode, we bring you a very special conversation with Brandon's pastor, Kevin Gerald of Champion Centre. We want you to hear what's on the mind of a lead pastor. If you serve on a church team, you’re going to want to hear this one, because your pastor could very well be thinking the same thing. Welcome to Season Two of the Leading Second Podcast. This podcast releases every Thursday morning. Show Credits: Host and Creator: Brandon Stewart Producer: Clarke Burton Content: Clarke Burton Music: SUBSCRIBE COMMENT LIKE & SHARE We want you in our tribe! Stay connected to all Leading Second has to offer: Podcast: itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/leadi…d1352176626?mt=2 Website: leadingsecond.com Instagram: instagram.com/leadingsecond Facebook: Leading Second Forum www.facebook.com/groups/1763432817304646 Connect with Brandon Stewart Facebook: facebook.com/brandonmstewart Instagram: instagram.com/brandonmstewart Twitter: twitter.com/brandonmstewart Leading Second is an extension of the Team Church tribe. For more information on Team Church Conference and One Day events, check-out teamchurchconference.com or search Team Church on Facebook.

This week we're sitting down with a panel of Millennials. We discover what it's like to lead effectively in ministry as a millennial and gain insight on how to lead millennials. Welcome to Season Two of the Leading Second Podcast. This podcast releases every Thursday morning. Show Credits: Host and Creator: Brandon Stewart Producer: Clarke Burton Content: Chris Luokos Music: SUBSCRIBE COMMENT LIKE & SHARE We want you in our tribe! Stay connected to all Leading Second has to offer: Podcast: itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/leadi…d1352176626?mt=2 Website: leadingsecond.com Instagram: instagram.com/leadingsecond Facebook: Leading Second Forum www.facebook.com/groups/1763432817304646 Connect with Brandon Stewart Facebook: facebook.com/brandonmstewart Instagram: instagram.com/brandonmstewart Twitter: twitter.com/brandonmstewart Leading Second is an extension of the Team Church tribe. For more information on Team Church Conference and One Day events, check-out teamchurchconference.com or search Team Church on Facebook.

In this episode, we have a conversation from both sides of the second chair. We hear from Pastors Carey & Meghan Robinson and Executive Pastor Girly Gordy from The Movement OC. We discuss what pastors need from us, as well as what we can expect from them. We’ll also share perspective out of seasons of church planting and leading a staff which is predominantly volunteer. You’re going to love this conversation. Welcome to Season Two of the Leading Second Podcast. This podcast releases every Thursday morning. Show Credits: Host and Creator: Brandon Stewart Producer: Clarke Burton Content: Clarke Burton Music: SUBSCRIBE COMMENT LIKE & SHARE We want you in our tribe! Stay connected to all Leading Second has to offer: Podcast: itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/leadi…d1352176626?mt=2 Website: leadingsecond.com Instagram: instagram.com/leadingsecond Facebook: Leading Second Forum www.facebook.com/groups/1763432817304646 Connect with Brandon Stewart Facebook: facebook.com/brandonmstewart Instagram: instagram.com/brandonmstewart Twitter: twitter.com/brandonmstewart Leading Second is an extension of the Team Church tribe. For more information on Team Church Conference and One Day events, check-out teamchurchconference.com or search Team Church on Facebook.

In this episode, we sit down with Tim Timberlake, who pastors Christian Faith Center with his wife Jennifer in Creedmoor, NC. Tim regularly speaks to church leaders, as well as professional teams. We had a wide ranging conversation on Team, Leadership, and stepping into the call of God for your life. Welcome to Season Two of the Leading Second Podcast. This podcast releases every Thursday morning. Show Credits: Host and Creator: Brandon Stewart Producer: Clarke Burton Content: Clarke Burton Music: SUBSCRIBE COMMENT LIKE & SHARE We want you in our tribe! Stay connected to all Leading Second has to offer: Podcast: itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/leadi…d1352176626?mt=2 Website: leadingsecond.com Instagram: instagram.com/leadingsecond Facebook: Leading Second Forum www.facebook.com/groups/1763432817304646 Connect with Brandon Stewart Facebook: facebook.com/brandonmstewart Instagram: instagram.com/brandonmstewart Twitter: twitter.com/brandonmstewart Leading Second is an extension of the Team Church tribe. For more information on Team Church Conference and One Day events, check-out teamchurchconference.com or search Team Church on Facebook.

In this episode, Brandon talks with three of the Team Church Contributors on the DNA of Great Teams. This summer, Team Church hosts an annual conference for leaders and teams in Tacoma, WA (teamchurchconference.com). Consider this episode a sneak peak to what will be a monumental event in the life of our tribe. Welcome to Season Two of the Leading Second Podcast. This podcast releases every Thursday morning. Show Credits: Host and Creator: Brandon Stewart Producer: Clarke Burton Content: Clarke Burton Music: SUBSCRIBE COMMENT LIKE & SHARE We want you in our tribe! Stay connected to all Leading Second has to offer: Podcast: itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/leadi…d1352176626?mt=2 Website: leadingsecond.com Instagram: instagram.com/leadingsecond Facebook: Leading Second Forum www.facebook.com/groups/1763432817304646 Connect with Brandon Stewart Facebook: facebook.com/brandonmstewart Instagram: instagram.com/brandonmstewart Twitter: twitter.com/brandonmstewart Leading Second is an extension of the Team Church tribe. For more information on Team Church Conference and One Day events, check-out teamchurchconference.com or search Team Church on Facebook.

In this episode, Brandon talks to Tome Dawson of Life Church about his relationship with his pastor (Craig Groeschel), and how we can all steward that relationship well in our own lives. Welcome to Season Two of the Leading Second Podcast. This podcast releases every Thursday morning. Show Credits: Host and Creator: Brandon Stewart Producer: Clarke Burton Content: Clarke Burton Music: SUBSCRIBE COMMENT LIKE & SHARE We want you in our tribe! Stay connected to all Leading Second has to offer: Podcast: itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/leadi…d1352176626?mt=2 Website: leadingsecond.com Instagram: instagram.com/leadingsecond Facebook: Leading Second Forum www.facebook.com/groups/1763432817304646 Connect with Brandon Stewart Facebook: facebook.com/brandonmstewart Instagram: instagram.com/brandonmstewart Twitter: twitter.com/brandonmstewart Leading Second is an extension of the Team Church tribe. For more information on Team Church Conference and One Day events, check-out teamchurchconference.com or search Team Church on Facebook.

In this episode, we jump into questions from a Leading Second lab. Questions like: Why have a culture centered on honor? How do I correct someone with authority issues? What are ways to model submission to authority? How do I come back into alignment? We’re drilling down on having an honor centered culture in the midst of an anti-authority generation. Join us as we learn what it takes to pass the test of authority. Welcome to Season Two of the Leading Second Podcast. This podcast releases every Thursday morning. Show Credits: Host and Creator: Brandon Stewart Producer: Clarke Burton Content: Clarke Burton Music: SUBSCRIBE COMMENT LIKE & SHARE We want you in our tribe! Stay connected to all Leading Second has to offer: Podcast: itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/leadi…d1352176626?mt=2 Website: leadingsecond.com Instagram: instagram.com/leadingsecond Facebook: Leading Second Forum www.facebook.com/groups/1763432817304646 Connect with Brandon Stewart Facebook: facebook.com/brandonmstewart Instagram: instagram.com/brandonmstewart Twitter: twitter.com/brandonmstewart Leading Second is an extension of the Team Church tribe. For more information on Team Church Conference and One Day events, check-out teamchurchconference.com or search Team Church on Facebook.

In this episode, we continue our series on Millennials in Ministry. We are joined again by Nicole Smithee, Pace Hartfield, & Anna Morgan as they wrestle through leadership in our digital spaces. We feel that, as leaders, it’s important we engage on social media platforms and use them for the glory of God. At the same time, there are very real traps and pitfalls we must avoid. Join us as we discuss how we engage with others on digital platforms and examine our own hearts in the process. Welcome to Season Two of the Leading Second Podcast. This podcast releases every Thursday morning. Show Credits: Host and Creator: Brandon Stewart Producer: Clarke Burton Content: Crystal Creglow Music: SUBSCRIBE COMMENT LIKE & SHARE We want you in our tribe! Stay connected to all Leading Second has to offer: Podcast: itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/leadi…d1352176626?mt=2 Website: leadingsecond.com Instagram: instagram.com/leadingsecond Facebook: Leading Second Forum www.facebook.com/groups/1763432817304646 Connect with Brandon Stewart Facebook: facebook.com/brandonmstewart Instagram: instagram.com/brandonmstewart Twitter: twitter.com/brandonmstewart Leading Second is an extension of the Team Church tribe. For more information on Team Church Conference and One Day events, check-out teamchurchconference.com or search Team Church on Facebook.

In this episode, we continue our series on Millennials in Ministry. In this episode we are joined by Nicole Smithee, PacehHartfield, & Anna Morgan for a challenging discussion on leading in today’s digital world. Social media has allowed comparison and inauthenticity to become a pandemic of the Millennial and Z generations. We can admire and honor what other people bring to the table, but there is a difference between admiring and mimicking them and then missing out on who you were created to be. Don’t miss this episode. If you’re a leader in today’s digital world, this one is for you. Welcome to Season Two of the Leading Second Podcast. This podcast releases every Thursday morning. Show Credits: Host and Creator: Brandon Stewart Producer: Clarke Burton Content: Crystal Creglow Music: SUBSCRIBE COMMENT LIKE & SHARE We want you in our tribe! Stay connected to all Leading Second has to offer: Podcast: itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/leadi…d1352176626?mt=2 Website: leadingsecond.com Instagram: instagram.com/leadingsecond Facebook: Leading Second Forum www.facebook.com/groups/1763432817304646 Connect with Brandon Stewart Facebook: facebook.com/brandonmstewart Instagram: instagram.com/brandonmstewart Twitter: twitter.com/brandonmstewart Leading Second is an extension of the Team Church tribe. For more information on Team Church Conference and One Day events, check-out teamchurchconference.com or search Team Church on Facebook.

Authority issues are everywhere in our culture, but the Bible calls us to be people who submit to authority and…. honor authority. I’m joined today by not only one, but two pastors who I highly respect. Dan Lord and Jimn Kyles both carry so much weight and wisdom on the topic of honoring authority. Join us as we shed light on a topic that I believe is very misunderstood right now. Welcome to Season Two of the Leading Second Podcast. This podcast releases every Thursday morning. Show Credits: Host and Creator: Brandon Stewart Producer: Clarke Burton Content: Ryan Creglow Music: SUBSCRIBE COMMENT LIKE & SHARE We want you in our tribe! Stay connected to all Leading Second has to offer: Podcast: itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/leadi…d1352176626?mt=2 Website: leadingsecond.com Instagram: instagram.com/leadingsecond Facebook: Leading Second Forum www.facebook.com/groups/1763432817304646 Connect with Brandon Stewart Facebook: facebook.com/brandonmstewart Instagram: instagram.com/brandonmstewart Twitter: twitter.com/brandonmstewart Leading Second is an extension of the Team Church tribe. For more information on Team Church Conference and One Day events, check-out teamchurchconference.com or search Team Church on Facebook.

Entitled. Narcissistic. Lazy. Selfies. Addicted to social media. If you’ve heard any of these words spoken over this generation called "Millennials" and it bothers you, then today’s conversation is for you We’re going to talk with Chandler Boyce about Leading in an Entitlement Culture. Entitlement is everywhere in our culture today. And while I don’t believe every young leader today is entitled, I do believe it is a topic our generation is wrestling with. Welcome to Season Two of the Leading Second Podcast. This podcast releases every Thursday morning. Show Credits: Host and Creator: Brandon Stewart Producer: Clarke Burton Content: Ryan Creglow Music: SUBSCRIBE COMMENT LIKE & SHARE We want you in our tribe! Stay connected to all Leading Second has to offer: Podcast: itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/leadi…d1352176626?mt=2 Website: leadingsecond.com Instagram: instagram.com/leadingsecond Facebook: Leading Second Forum www.facebook.com/groups/1763432817304646 Connect with Brandon Stewart Facebook: facebook.com/brandonmstewart Instagram: instagram.com/brandonmstewart Twitter: twitter.com/brandonmstewart Leading Second is an extension of the Team Church tribe. For more information on Team Church Conference and One Day events, check-out teamchurchconference.com or search Team Church on Facebook.

John Morgan speaks about leading as a young leader, how to respectfully agree and disagree, and gives his story of transition from a lead pastoral role to a leading second leader. Welcome to Season Two of the Leading Second Podcast. This podcast releases every Thursday morning. Show Credits: Host and Creator: Brandon Stewart Producer: Clarke Burton Content: Clark Burton, Toni Arauza, Crystal Creglow Music: SUBSCRIBE COMMENT LIKE & SHARE We want you in our tribe! Stay connected to all Leading Second has to offer: Podcast: itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/leadi…d1352176626?mt=2 Website: leadingsecond.com Instagram: instagram.com/leadingsecond Facebook: Leading Second Forum www.facebook.com/groups/1763432817304646 Connect with Brandon Stewart Facebook: facebook.com/brandonmstewart Instagram: instagram.com/brandonmstewart Twitter: twitter.com/brandonmstewart Leading Second is an extension of the Team Church tribe. For more information on Team Church Conference and One Day events, check-out teamchurchconference.com or search Team Church on Facebook.

Welcome to Season Two of the Leading Second Podcast. This podcast releases every Thursday morning. Show Credits: Host and Creator: Brandon Stewart Producer: Clarke Burton Content: Chris Loukos Music: SUBSCRIBE COMMENT LIKE & SHARE We want you in our tribe! Stay connected to all Leading Second has to offer: Podcast: itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/leadi…d1352176626?mt=2 Website: leadingsecond.com Instagram: instagram.com/leadingsecond Facebook: Leading Second Forum www.facebook.com/groups/1763432817304646 Connect with Brandon Stewart Facebook: facebook.com/brandonmstewart Instagram: instagram.com/brandonmstewart Twitter: twitter.com/brandonmstewart Leading Second is an extension of the Team Church tribe. For more information on Team Church Conference and One Day events, check-out teamchurchconference.com or search Team Church on Facebook.

Oneka McClellan of Shoreline Church is back from season one! In this episode, she shares about her new book Born of a Woman, the value we find in women in ministry leadership, and how to stay in rhythm with your spouse when ministry life gets crazy. Welcome to Season Two of the Leading Second Podcast. This podcast releases every Thursday morning. Show Credits: Host and Creator: Brandon Stewart Producer: Clarke Burton Content: Crystal Creglow Music: SUBSCRIBE COMMENT LIKE & SHARE We want you in our tribe! Stay connected to all Leading Second has to offer: Podcast: itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/leadi…d1352176626?mt=2 Website: leadingsecond.com Instagram: instagram.com/leadingsecond Facebook: Leading Second Forum www.facebook.com/groups/1763432817304646 Connect with Brandon Stewart Facebook: facebook.com/brandonmstewart Instagram: instagram.com/brandonmstewart Twitter: twitter.com/brandonmstewart Leading Second is an extension of the Team Church tribe. For more information on Team Church Conference and One Day events, check-out teamchurchconference.com or search Team Church on Facebook.

This week in the Leading Second podcast, Brandon sits down with his wife, Lindsay, to look back on the first year of their Leading Second ministry launch. Hear them talk together about the what led them to actually take the step to do this, what challenges they faced, what confirmations they received, and what year one has looked like. Then they cap off this episode by talking about the powerful concept of shared sacrifice, the difference of sacrifice vs ownership, and also what that looks like between a couple and how to communicate that. Welcome to Season Two of the Leading Second Podcast. This podcast releases every Thursday morning. Show Credits: Host and Creator: Brandon Stewart Producer: Clarke Burton Content: Ryan Creglow Music: SUBSCRIBE COMMENT LIKE & SHARE We want you in our tribe! Stay connected to all Leading Second has to offer: Podcast: itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/leadi…d1352176626?mt=2 Website: leadingsecond.com Instagram: instagram.com/leadingsecond Facebook: Leading Second Forum www.facebook.com/groups/1763432817304646 Connect with Brandon Stewart Facebook: facebook.com/brandonmstewart Instagram: instagram.com/brandonmstewart Twitter: twitter.com/brandonmstewart Leading Second is an extension of the Team Church tribe. For more information on Team Church Conference and One Day events, check-out teamchurchconference.com or search Team Church on Facebook.

In this episode, we sit in the tension between the message of following your passion and going after the dreams in your heart with the message of build your church, be planted, be faithful, submit to and honor your pastor. As we sit in the tension, we discuss if it is possible to see these as complimentary and not competing forces. We pray today's episode will help you discern how to navigate this tension well in your own life. Welcome to Season Two of the Leading Second Podcast. This podcast releases every Thursday morning. Show Credits: Host and Creator: Brandon Stewart Producer: Clarke Burton Content: Chris Loukos and Ryan Creglow (example) Music: SUBSCRIBE COMMENT LIKE & SHARE We want you in our tribe! Stay connected to all Leading Second has to offer: Podcast: itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/leadi…d1352176626?mt=2 Website: leadingsecond.com Instagram: instagram.com/leadingsecond Facebook: Leading Second Forum www.facebook.com/groups/1763432817304646 Connect with Brandon Stewart Facebook: facebook.com/brandonmstewart Instagram: instagram.com/brandonmstewart Twitter: twitter.com/brandonmstewart Leading Second is an extension of the Team Church tribe. For more information on Team Church Conference and One Day events, check-out teamchurchconference.com or search Team Church on Facebook.

In this episode, we continue our conversation with Sy Rogers as we explore a vital question for those of us in ministry - what do I do when I’m not doing OK? As you heard in the first part of our conversation with Sy, these issues of our humanity, God’s grace, and our response will define our generation of the Church. It’s a conversation we must get right. There is a way forward for all of us who are dealing with our own humanity, even as we lead others. We pray today’s episode will minister to your personally, and give you perspective that you can use to serve others. Welcome to Season Two of the Leading Second Podcast. This podcast releases every Thursday morning. Show Credits: Host and Creator: Brandon Stewart Producer: Clarke Burton Content: Chris Loukos Communications: Toni Arauza SUBSCRIBE COMMENT LIKE & SHARE We want you in our tribe! Stay connected to all Leading Second has to offer: Podcast: itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/leadi…d1352176626?mt=2 Website: leadingsecond.com Instagram: instagram.com/leadingsecond Facebook: Leading Second Forum www.facebook.com/groups/1763432817304646 Connect with Brandon Stewart Facebook: facebook.com/brandonmstewart Instagram: instagram.com/brandonmstewart Twitter: twitter.com/brandonmstewart Leading Second is an extension of the Team Church tribe. For more information on Team Church Conference and One Day events, check-out teamchurchconference.com or search Team Church on Facebook.