Kratom Sobriety

Jacob and Dr. Grover answer FAQ from kratom quitters about medicated assisted treatment and talks about the need to fight social and self-imposed stigma related to addiction. How One of My Patients Quit Kratom https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/how-one-of-my-patients-quit-kratom/id1565909524?i=1000705241102 WANT TO TELL YOUR STORY ON THE PODCAST? https://forms.gle/VWrjhLSTPHqJyVhw7 QUITTING KRATOM SUPPORT MEETINGS https://www.kratommeetings.com CONNECT WITH US https://www.instagram.com/kratomsobriety https://twitter.com/kratomsobriety https://www.tiktok.com/@krat0ms0briety https://www.youtube.com/@KratomSobriety https://www.facebook.com/kratomsobriety https://bsky.app/profile/kratomsobriety.bsky.social https://www.threads.net/@kratomsobriety CONTACT THE SHOW Voice: 313-437-7720 Email: [email protected] https://kratomsobriety.com PLEASE LEAVE A REVIEW https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/kratom-addiction/id1685569424 https://www.audible.com/podcast/Kratom-Addiction/B0C3YHDLV5 https://open.spotify.com/show/4GkQiYu6S8IBn8qswyVm00

In the opening segment, Jacob talks about his need to and what he did to kick his recovery work into a new gear after a couple years off kratom. Never addicted to anything before other than caffeine, Ryan S. talks about his progression from powder to extracts to 7ohm products, and his many failed attempts to quit before he went to a seven-day detox center in January 2025. After a family tragedy and strong urges to use kratom again, Ryan S. decided to pursue medicated assisted treatment to part of a relapse prevention strategy to maintain kratom assistance long-term. WANT TO TELL YOUR STORY ON THE PODCAST? https://forms.gle/VWrjhLSTPHqJyVhw7 QUITTING KRATOM SUPPORT MEETINGS https://www.kratommeetings.com CONNECT WITH US https://www.instagram.com/kratomsobriety https://twitter.com/kratomsobriety https://www.tiktok.com/@krat0ms0briety https://www.youtube.com/@KratomSobriety https://www.facebook.com/kratomsobriety https://bsky.app/profile/kratomsobriety.bsky.social https://www.threads.net/@kratomsobriety CONTACT THE SHOW Voice: 313-437-7720 Email: [email protected] https://kratomsobriety.com PLEASE LEAVE A REVIEW https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/kratom-addiction/id1685569424 https://www.audible.com/podcast/Kratom-Addiction/B0C3YHDLV5 https://open.spotify.com/show/4GkQiYu6S8IBn8qswyVm00

Guest host Aaron interviews Teresa Perry, PhD on her recently published paper entitled "Kratom drinks and consumption trends: insights from Reddit", which can be found at: https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/14659891.2025.2481069 WANT TO TELL YOUR STORY ON THE PODCAST? https://forms.gle/VWrjhLSTPHqJyVhw7 QUITTING KRATOM SUPPORT MEETINGS https://www.kratommeetings.com CONNECT WITH US https://www.instagram.com/kratomsobriety https://twitter.com/kratomsobriety https://www.tiktok.com/@krat0ms0briety https://www.youtube.com/@KratomSobriety https://www.facebook.com/kratomsobriety https://bsky.app/profile/kratomsobriety.bsky.social https://www.threads.net/@kratomsobriety CONTACT THE SHOW Voice: 313-437-7720 Email: [email protected] https://kratomsobriety.com PLEASE LEAVE A REVIEW https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/kratom-addiction/id1685569424 https://www.audible.com/podcast/Kratom-Addiction/B0C3YHDLV5 https://open.spotify.com/show/4GkQiYu6S8IBn8qswyVm00

Jacob speaks with Natasha, who shares her journey with Kratom and her struggles with addiction, including 7ohm. She details her attempts to quit, the challenges she faced during detox, and the support she received from her family. Through recovery groups and sober living, she has made significant strides by relying on community and seeking assistance. QUITTING KRATOM SUPPORT MEETINGS https://www.kratommeetings.com CONNECT WITH US https://www.instagram.com/kratomsobriety https://twitter.com/kratomsobriety https://www.tiktok.com/@krat0ms0briety https://www.youtube.com/@KratomSobriety https://www.facebook.com/kratomsobriety https://bsky.app/profile/kratomsobriety.bsky.social https://www.threads.net/@kratomsobriety CONTACT THE SHOW Voice: 313-437-7720 Email: [email protected] https://kratomsobriety.com PLEASE LEAVE A REVIEW https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/kratom-addiction/id1685569424 https://www.audible.com/podcast/Kratom-Addiction/B0C3YHDLV5 https://open.spotify.com/show/4GkQiYu6S8IBn8qswyVm00

John D. shares his story with much resolve, verve and wisdom. He covers several really huge topics: 1) How you can go for even years without serious addiction to kratom; 2) How that then sneakily progresses into a real dependency that often shocks people; 3) But then he tried to get off with extracts; 4) And then even graduated to the next level with 7ohm 5) AND an excellent rehab experience. QUITTING KRATOM SUPPORT MEETINGS https://www.kratommeetings.com CONNECT WITH US https://www.instagram.com/kratomsobriety https://twitter.com/kratomsobriety https://www.tiktok.com/@krat0ms0briety https://www.youtube.com/@KratomSobriety https://www.facebook.com/kratomsobriety https://bsky.app/profile/kratomsobriety.bsky.social https://www.threads.net/@kratomsobriety CONTACT THE SHOW Voice: 313-437-7720 Email: [email protected] https://kratomsobriety.com PLEASE LEAVE A REVIEW https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/kratom-addiction/id1685569424 https://www.audible.com/podcast/Kratom-Addiction/B0C3YHDLV5 https://open.spotify.com/show/4GkQiYu6S8IBn8qswyVm00

Libby and Jacob open. Doug talks to Libby about quitting kratom. QUITTING KRATOM SUPPORT MEETINGS https://www.kratommeetings.com CONNECT WITH US https://www.instagram.com/kratomsobriety https://twitter.com/kratomsobriety https://www.tiktok.com/@krat0ms0briety https://www.youtube.com/@KratomSobriety https://www.facebook.com/kratomsobriety https://bsky.app/profile/kratomsobriety.bsky.social https://www.threads.net/@kratomsobriety CONTACT THE SHOW Voice: 313-437-7720 Email: [email protected] https://kratomsobriety.com PLEASE LEAVE A REVIEW https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/kratom-addiction/id1685569424 https://www.audible.com/podcast/Kratom-Addiction/B0C3YHDLV5 https://open.spotify.com/show/4GkQiYu6S8IBn8qswyVm00

Nolan talks to John Bachner, a 23-year-old from Florida who has embarked on a documentary film project to dive into the rise of Kratom/7OH products, the lack of a regulated marketplace in which they are sold and the associated addiction stories many people experience. You can reach John at [email protected] to learn more about his efforts. QUITTING KRATOM SUPPORT MEETINGS https://www.kratommeetings.com CONNECT WITH US https://www.instagram.com/kratomsobriety https://twitter.com/kratomsobriety https://www.tiktok.com/@krat0ms0briety https://www.youtube.com/@KratomSobriety https://www.facebook.com/kratomsobriety https://bsky.app/profile/kratomsobriety.bsky.social https://www.threads.net/@kratomsobriety CONTACT THE SHOW Voice: 313-437-7720 Email: [email protected] https://kratomsobriety.com PLEASE LEAVE A REVIEW https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/kratom-addiction/id1685569424 https://www.audible.com/podcast/Kratom-Addiction/B0C3YHDLV5 https://open.spotify.com/show/4GkQiYu6S8IBn8qswyVm00

Libby and Nolan open. Jasmine and Lily celebrate sobriety milestones. https://feelfreeclassaction.com QUITTING KRATOM SUPPORT MEETINGS https://www.kratommeetings.com CONNECT WITH US https://www.instagram.com/kratomsobriety https://twitter.com/kratomsobriety https://www.tiktok.com/@krat0ms0briety https://www.youtube.com/@KratomSobriety https://www.facebook.com/kratomsobriety https://bsky.app/profile/kratomsobriety.bsky.social https://www.threads.net/@kratomsobriety CONTACT THE SHOW Voice: 313-437-7720 Email: [email protected] https://kratomsobriety.com PLEASE LEAVE A REVIEW https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/kratom-addiction/id1685569424 https://www.audible.com/podcast/Kratom-Addiction/B0C3YHDLV5 https://open.spotify.com/show/4GkQiYu6S8IBn8qswyVm00

Nolan and Jacob discuss taking up hobbies post quitting to keep busy and to enrich your life. Mike B. used kratom to get off methadone, but six years later was still on the powder, then eventually switching over to the kava-kratom tonics. Thought service and 12 step work, Mike gives back and now almost two years clean from kratom and other drugs. QUITTING KRATOM SUPPORT MEETINGS https://www.kratommeetings.com CONNECT WITH US https://www.instagram.com/kratomsobriety https://twitter.com/kratomsobriety https://www.tiktok.com/@krat0ms0briety https://www.youtube.com/@KratomSobriety https://www.facebook.com/kratomsobriety https://bsky.app/profile/kratomsobriety.bsky.social https://www.threads.net/@kratomsobriety CONTACT THE SHOW Voice: 313-437-7720 Email: [email protected] https://kratomsobriety.com PLEASE LEAVE A REVIEW https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/kratom-addiction/id1685569424 https://www.audible.com/podcast/Kratom-Addiction/B0C3YHDLV5 https://open.spotify.com/show/4GkQiYu6S8IBn8qswyVm00

NOTE: This is our last regular Wednesday interview with a kratom quitter as we are going back to once-a-week guests talking about their quitting journey on Sundays with occasional Wednesday special episodes. An engineering professional from New Mexico, James started using kratom three years ago as a remedy for his severe IBS. Drawn in by a posh kratom dispensary experience that marketed the drug as a benign supplement, his use escalated from 5 grams per day to upward of 30–50 grams daily, leading to severe health consequences including hospitalization for bowel impaction. After a traumatic withdrawal and ineffective attempts with doctor prescribed ketamine, benzos, and mental health medications, James eventually found stability through Suboxone, tapering down to 0.5 mg while rebuilding his life and mental health. He now advocates for medical-assisted treatment as a valid recovery pathway. He emphasizes the need for regulation and honest education around kratom. James encourages others to explore diverse recovery tools, be open-minded, and prioritize community support, while also offering himself as a resource for quitting. CONNECT WITH US https://www.instagram.com/kratomsobriety https://twitter.com/kratomsobriety https://www.tiktok.com/@krat0ms0briety https://www.youtube.com/@KratomSobriety https://www.facebook.com/kratomsobriety https://bsky.app/profile/kratomsobriety.bsky.social https://www.threads.net/@kratomsobriety QUITTING KRATOM SUPPORT MEETINGS https://www.kratommeetings.com CONTACT THE SHOW Voice: 313-437-7720 Email: [email protected] https://kratomsobriety.com PLEASE LEAVE A REVIEW https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/kratom-addiction/id1685569424 https://www.audible.com/podcast/Kratom-Addiction/B0C3YHDLV5 https://open.spotify.com/show/4GkQiYu6S8IBn8qswyVm00

Libby and Jacob talk about pets and recovery. Sonya was a low-dose, high-functioning kratom user. The reasons for quitting were not as overwhelming and more subtle, but the benefits to getting off kratom were still profound. Her dog Chunk maybe the happiest about it all. CONNECT WITH US https://www.instagram.com/kratomsobriety https://twitter.com/kratomsobriety https://www.tiktok.com/@krat0ms0briety https://www.youtube.com/@KratomSobriety https://www.facebook.com/kratomsobriety https://bsky.app/profile/kratomsobriety.bsky.social https://www.threads.net/@kratomsobriety QUITTING KRATOM SUPPORT MEETINGS https://www.kratommeetings.com CONTACT THE SHOW Voice: 313-437-7720 Email: [email protected] https://kratomsobriety.com PLEASE LEAVE A REVIEW https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/kratom-addiction/id1685569424 https://www.audible.com/podcast/Kratom-Addiction/B0C3YHDLV5 https://open.spotify.com/show/4GkQiYu6S8IBn8qswyVm00

In the opening segment, Nolan talks about how sobriety is not just the absence of a substance in your life. Kevin took kratom for the first time 7 years ago, but it made him nauseous, and he didn't return to it again until January 2024. After just a year of drinking the kava-kratom tonics, Kevin quit at the first of the year 2025. Did you know that Nolan wrote a book about quitting kratom? Check it out: https://tinyurl.com/yprb5hkj CONNECT WITH US https://www.instagram.com/kratomsobriety https://twitter.com/kratomsobriety https://www.tiktok.com/@krat0ms0briety https://www.youtube.com/@KratomSobriety https://www.facebook.com/kratomsobriety QUITTING KRATOM SUPPORT MEETINGS https://www.kratommeetings.com CONTACT THE SHOW Voice: 313-437-7720 Email: [email protected] https://kratomsobriety.com PLEASE LEAVE A REVIEW https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/kratom-addiction/id1685569424 https://www.audible.com/podcast/Kratom-Addiction/B0C3YHDLV5 https://open.spotify.com/show/4GkQiYu6S8IBn8qswyVm00

Answering some questions posted on Reddit. Matthew is a school teacher who went to rehab for his kratom addiction. New resource: https://www.reddit.com/r/quit_7OH CONNECT WITH US https://www.instagram.com/kratomsobriety https://twitter.com/kratomsobriety https://www.tiktok.com/@krat0ms0briety https://www.youtube.com/@KratomSobriety https://www.facebook.com/kratomsobriety QUITTING KRATOM SUPPORT MEETINGS https://www.kratommeetings.com CONTACT THE SHOW Voice: 313-437-7720 Email: [email protected] https://kratomsobriety.com PLEASE LEAVE A REVIEW https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/kratom-addiction/id1685569424 https://www.audible.com/podcast/Kratom-Addiction/B0C3YHDLV5 https://open.spotify.com/show/4GkQiYu6S8IBn8qswyVm00

PLEASE NOTE: In the first three minutes of the interview, the guest's audio is choppy. We improved the sound as much as possible, and it gets better later on. In this episode, Marilyn Lynch joins the podcast to share the life and legacy of her late husband, Matthew James Lynch, who passed away on May 25, 2024, at the age of 44. A devoted husband, father of three, and talented chef, Matt died from an apparent kratom-induced seizure. Matthew was pursuing a degree in accounting at Liberty University, where he maintained a 3.61 GPA. He participated in Celebrate Recovery and was connected to AA, maintaining 1,037 days of sobriety from alcohol when he passed. A Florida-born skater as a kid, later becoming a drummer as part of his deep love of music—especially metal—he was known for his devotion to his family. After enduring chronic pain from a car accident, Matt sought alternatives to prescription opioids and began using kratom, a legal herbal substance marketed as natural and safe. What began as a hopeful path to healing quietly evolved into a difficult dependency, culminating in a series of unexplained seizures and ultimately, his untimely passing. The autopsy report later confirmed kratom as a contributing factor in his death. A postmortem toxicology screen conducted via liquid chromatography–mass spectrometry (LC-MS) detected mitragynine at 5.2 mg/L and 7-hydroxymitragynine (7-HMG) at 0.74 mg/L. Naloxone was present, due to attempted reversal of opioid effects, by emergency responders. Amphetamines, benzodiazepines, traditional opioids, ethanol, cocaine metabolites, or gabapentin/pregabalin were NOT detected. At time on death, Matthew was on prescribed anti-seizure, heart and cholesterol medications. Today, Marilyn now honors his memory by speaking out, sharing his story to raise awareness about the unregulated risks of kratom. CONNECT WITH US https://www.instagram.com/kratomsobriety https://twitter.com/kratomsobriety https://www.tiktok.com/@krat0ms0briety https://www.youtube.com/@KratomSobriety https://www.facebook.com/kratomsobriety QUITTING KRATOM SUPPORT MEETINGS https://www.kratommeetings.com CONTACT THE SHOW Voice: 313-437-7720 Email: [email protected] https://kratomsobriety.com PLEASE LEAVE A REVIEW https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/kratom-addiction/id1685569424 https://www.audible.com/podcast/Kratom-Addiction/B0C3YHDLV5 https://open.spotify.com/show/4GkQiYu6S8IBn8qswyVm00

Family history and talking about addiction openly. Guus hails from Holland, and quit kratom in November 2024. He is our first guest from Europe, where kratom use is not as prevalent as here in the states. CONNECT WITH US https://www.instagram.com/kratomsobriety https://twitter.com/kratomsobriety https://www.tiktok.com/@krat0ms0briety https://www.youtube.com/@KratomSobriety https://www.facebook.com/kratomsobriety QUITTING KRATOM SUPPORT MEETINGS https://www.kratommeetings.com CONTACT THE SHOW Voice: 313-437-7720 Email: [email protected] https://kratomsobriety.com PLEASE LEAVE A REVIEW https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/kratom-addiction/id1685569424 https://www.audible.com/podcast/Kratom-Addiction/B0C3YHDLV5 https://open.spotify.com/show/4GkQiYu6S8IBn8qswyVm00

Compilation of a selection of recent other podcasts tackling the issue of kratom addiction in the last six months. Thanks to these podcasters for increasing awareness about the topic. Check out their full kratom episodes, sharing only a portion here. Please thank each of them by giving them a like or follow or a 5-star rating on Apple or Spotify. 1) Search Engine: The Mystery of the Vape Shop Kratom https://open.spotify.com/episode/6fA6wFvTGzt5JzdjV1wmj9 2) Dopey: The Kratom Episode with Jana Wu https://open.spotify.com/episode/6McdmnlRVFHJTDax2XeA3J 3) Addicted Mind: Unmasking Kratom: Decima Davis's Journey https://open.spotify.com/episode/6d1yt2A0ymbKNXJ5CHNG4v 4) Addiction Medicine Made Easy: Lessons Learned From the Front Lines https://open.spotify.com/episode/1WN4dzFdSAFwBU7jAadTYc 5) Tyrp Rapport: Kicking Kratom With Ibogaine https://open.spotify.com/episode/1naLRcrB1oHPZ2u18ssCja 6) Addiction Medicine Journal Club: Articles That Changed Our Practice https://open.spotify.com/episode/0n6aVR51LUcvj9ghR9h9bU 7) The Jason Ellis Show: The TRUTH About Kratom https://open.spotify.com/episode/2PwL4L8YzC8YilkEcyI1kS CONNECT WITH US https://www.instagram.com/kratomsobriety https://twitter.com/kratomsobriety https://www.tiktok.com/@krat0ms0briety https://www.youtube.com/@KratomSobriety https://www.facebook.com/kratomsobriety QUITTING KRATOM SUPPORT MEETINGS https://www.kratommeetings.com CONTACT THE SHOW Voice: 313-437-7720 Email: [email protected] https://kratomsobriety.com PLEASE LEAVE A REVIEW https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/kratom-addiction/id1685569424 https://www.audible.com/podcast/Kratom-Addiction/B0C3YHDLV5 https://open.spotify.com/show/4GkQiYu6S8IBn8qswyVm00

Advocating for an inclusive kratom recovery community. Natalie is two years off kratom, the first time completely sober and off everything since being a teenager. Natalie tells Libby how she did it, some close calls, how her life is better and gives advice for others. E15 Natalie | Kratom Addiction https://kratomsobriety.podbean.com/e/e15-natalie/ CONNECT WITH US https://www.instagram.com/kratomsobriety https://twitter.com/kratomsobriety https://www.tiktok.com/@krat0ms0briety https://www.youtube.com/@KratomSobriety https://www.facebook.com/kratomsobriety QUITTING KRATOM SUPPORT MEETINGS https://www.kratommeetings.com CONTACT THE SHOW Voice: 313-437-7720 Email: [email protected] https://kratomsobriety.com PLEASE LEAVE A REVIEW https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/kratom-addiction/id1685569424 https://www.audible.com/podcast/Kratom-Addiction/B0C3YHDLV5 https://open.spotify.com/show/4GkQiYu6S8IBn8qswyVm00

Are you more attuned to your senses after kratom cessation? Scott started off on powder ten years ago and began using extracts in more recent years. After many quit attempts, and his drug use escalating to poly-substance binges, Scott hit a bottom at an ER visit after using meth. A foreign trip to an overseas city was how he was able to stop consuming kratom in the fall of 2024. CONNECT WITH US https://www.instagram.com/kratomsobriety https://twitter.com/kratomsobriety https://www.tiktok.com/@krat0ms0briety https://www.youtube.com/@KratomSobriety https://www.facebook.com/kratomsobriety QUITTING KRATOM SUPPORT MEETINGS https://www.kratommeetings.com CONTACT THE SHOW Voice: 313-437-7720 Email: [email protected] https://kratomsobriety.com PLEASE LEAVE A REVIEW https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/kratom-addiction/id1685569424 https://www.audible.com/podcast/Kratom-Addiction/B0C3YHDLV5 https://open.spotify.com/show/4GkQiYu6S8IBn8qswyVm00

Defining what sober is for yourself, based on your improved quality of life, not by what you are abstinent from. Kendall is a middle school teacher who was previous addicted to tramadol. He first developed a bad habit with extract capsules, which he quit, then relapsed taking the kava-kratom tonics. Kendall is an example that not every case of disordered kratom use is severe, and not every relapse results into a spiraling decent into oblivion. But kratom has abuse potential and is not for everyone, especially if you are hiding it from a loved one such as a spouse, and you are lying about and overspending on your kratom consumption. CONNECT WITH US https://www.instagram.com/kratomsobriety https://twitter.com/kratomsobriety https://www.tiktok.com/@krat0ms0briety https://www.youtube.com/@KratomSobriety https://www.facebook.com/kratomsobriety QUITTING KRATOM SUPPORT MEETINGS https://www.kratommeetings.com CONTACT THE SHOW Voice: 313-437-7720 Email: [email protected] https://kratomsobriety.com PLEASE LEAVE A REVIEW https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/kratom-addiction/id1685569424 https://www.audible.com/podcast/Kratom-Addiction/B0C3YHDLV5 https://open.spotify.com/show/4GkQiYu6S8IBn8qswyVm00

Nolan and Desiree talk about the benefits of having more money to spend after quitting kratom. Author Jonathan N. Stea, PhD discusses his book "Mind the Science" and shares strategies to navigate the complexities of the alternative health sector. He shares his clinical experience treating kratom use disorder, addresses common tropes and fallacies found in certain industries like kratom, and explores the parallels of kratom with cannabis as both are marketed as natural plant medicines. Kratom (Mitragynine) Ingestion Requiring Naloxone Reversal - PMC Overbeek, D. L., Abraham, J., & Munzer, B. W. (2019). Kratom (Mitragynine) Ingestion Requiring Naloxone Reversal. Clinical practice and cases in emergency medicine, 3(1), 24–26. https://doi.org/10.5811/cpcem.2018.11.40588 CONNECT WITH US https://www.instagram.com/kratomsobriety https://twitter.com/kratomsobriety https://www.tiktok.com/@krat0ms0briety https://www.youtube.com/@KratomSobriety https://www.facebook.com/kratomsobriety QUITTING KRATOM SUPPORT MEETINGS https://www.kratommeetings.com CONTACT THE SHOW Voice: 313-437-7720 Email: [email protected] https://kratomsobriety.com PLEASE LEAVE A REVIEW https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/kratom-addiction/id1685569424 https://www.audible.com/podcast/Kratom-Addiction/B0C3YHDLV5 https://open.spotify.com/show/4GkQiYu6S8IBn8qswyVm00

How to cope when life keeps on "life-ing". Jahred hails from Hawaii, where he quit a 7-year addiction to powder (his first five or so years) and then at the end, mixing in extracts. With the help of a significant other, he tapered from June 2024 from about 42 grams per day to about 8 grams per day, when he jumped off cold turkey - aided by several comfort prescriptions from his doctor. CONNECT WITH US https://www.instagram.com/kratomsobriety https://twitter.com/kratomsobriety https://www.tiktok.com/@krat0ms0briety https://www.youtube.com/@KratomSobriety https://www.facebook.com/kratomsobriety QUITTING KRATOM SUPPORT MEETINGS https://www.kratommeetings.com CONTACT THE SHOW Voice: 313-437-7720 Email: [email protected] https://kratomsobriety.com PLEASE LEAVE A REVIEW https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/kratom-addiction/id1685569424 https://www.audible.com/podcast/Kratom-Addiction/B0C3YHDLV5 https://open.spotify.com/show/4GkQiYu6S8IBn8qswyVm00

Nolan and Desiree talk about their personal timelines feeling better after quitting kratom. Mark is an expat from Europe living in Thailand as a digital nomad. He was surprised by how an unassuming kratom tea product he bought created a physical dependency and he had a hard time quitting during 2024. English is not his native language, but his story gives us insight how kratom is used by non-Americans in places outside of United States. CONNECT WITH US https://www.instagram.com/kratomsobriety https://twitter.com/kratomsobriety https://www.tiktok.com/@krat0ms0briety https://www.youtube.com/@KratomSobriety https://www.facebook.com/kratomsobriety QUITTING KRATOM SUPPORT MEETINGS https://www.kratommeetings.com CONTACT THE SHOW Voice: 313-437-7720 Email: [email protected] https://kratomsobriety.com PLEASE LEAVE A REVIEW https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/kratom-addiction/id1685569424 https://www.audible.com/podcast/Kratom-Addiction/B0C3YHDLV5 https://open.spotify.com/show/4GkQiYu6S8IBn8qswyVm00

Libby and Jacob talk about recognizing you have an addiction without or before bad things start to happen. Ian works for a well-known company that distributes kratom-kava drinks to some 30,000 stores in the U.S. Many people report this product to be starkly more addictive than plain leaf kratom, and Ian himself has developed a dependency he has had trouble stopping. He talks to Charlie about: * The misleading promotion of the product as an energy drink. * The measures the company uses to counter the concerns of cautious new retail outlets worried about the negative reports associated with the product. * The typical store has a handful of the same customers drinking large volumes of the product, e.g. an average of 12 customers per every 100 units moved. * The company's practice of giving six samples per store to the distributor allows Ian to afford his addiction. * Severe cases of addiction among customers that Ian has encountered during his work, and that other people working for the company in his role are also experiencing difficult, hard-to-quit dependencies on the product they are helping to distribute. * The company-wide denial about the addictive potential of the product. CONNECT WITH US https://www.instagram.com/kratomsobriety https://twitter.com/kratomsobriety https://www.tiktok.com/@krat0ms0briety https://www.youtube.com/@KratomSobriety https://www.facebook.com/kratomsobriety QUITTING KRATOM SUPPORT MEETINGS https://www.kratommeetings.com CONTACT THE SHOW Voice: 313-437-7720 Email: [email protected] https://kratomsobriety.com PLEASE LEAVE A REVIEW https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/kratom-addiction/id1685569424 https://www.audible.com/podcast/Kratom-Addiction/B0C3YHDLV5 https://open.spotify.com/show/4GkQiYu6S8IBn8qswyVm00

Nolan and Desiree talk about how nice it is not to have to hide your kratom use after you quit. Eren discusses how his kratom addiction progressed over five years until he was able to stop in early December 2023. He "hugged the cactus", and quit with the help of the podcast, online kratom meetings and quitting support groups. How would you describe your life now that you're freedom free? "Oh, that's a good question. It's a complicated question. I'll try to keep it short. I think that it's more honest and I think it's more sincere, and I think that it's sometimes harder, but I think that overall it's easier and better and more fulfilling and more rewarding, and I've had to face uncomfortable truths about myself. My history and reflecting on my past. ...This whole feeling of I don't deserve to be here, I don't belong, whatever...Ridiculous thoughts are things that I press down with substances and now the journey is I can actually work through this. And that's been for me, this journey of, now that I'm off of it, I think it's like a car, like all my trauma was like a car...Like you gotta take the car in to get serviced. And I wasn't servicing the car and so the car was getting fucked up...So that was the process and that's been, but I've had to go through and work through now, but it's also very empowering and healing." CONNECT WITH US https://www.instagram.com/kratomsobriety https://twitter.com/kratomsobriety https://www.tiktok.com/@krat0ms0briety https://www.youtube.com/@KratomSobriety https://www.facebook.com/kratomsobriety QUITTING KRATOM SUPPORT MEETINGS https://www.kratommeetings.com CONTACT THE SHOW Voice: 313-437-7720 Email: [email protected] https://kratomsobriety.com PLEASE LEAVE A REVIEW https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/kratom-addiction/id1685569424 https://www.audible.com/podcast/Kratom-Addiction/B0C3YHDLV5 https://open.spotify.com/show/4GkQiYu6S8IBn8qswyVm00

Today's guest Anthony is a high school student. In the open, Jacob and Libby discuss how they felt at key milestone day marks during the first year. Initially consuming kratom around age 15, Anthony first bottomed out on powder and then on kava-kratom tonics, eventually going to rehab. Relapse is part of his story, but he experienced a lot in his journey for such a young man. Listen to hear what he has to say. THANK YOU TO OUR GUESTS WHO SENT IN FEEDBACK ON LOW/HIGH DOSES: Response 1 - J "I guess when I was first getting started with kratom, 3 or so grams was more stimulating and then 6+ were sedating, but by the time I got heavy into my addiction I just felt like crap all the time anyway?" Also J found this scientific article: Babu KM, McCurdy CR, Boyer EW (2008) Opioid receptors and legal highs: Salvia divinorum and Kratom. Clin Toxicol (Phila) 46(2):146–152. "The clinical effects of Kratom are dose-dependent; consistent descriptions exist of stimulant effects at lower doses, and opiate effects predominating at higher doses in humans (33,34). This effect has also been witnessed in animal models (47)." Response 2 - A I used once a day ranging from 5gpd to 15gpd in leaf form. I would say that range is exactly the difference between stimulating and sedative. I would start my use at 5gpd for a bit of a buzz and help cleaning the house. As my use increased due to tolerance it would get more and more sedative until the 15gpd point where it would be almost all sedative and not stimulating at all. Your podcast helps me tremendously along with the kratom quitters group. My story is very mundane, low usage, no crazy rock bottoms or interesting quit strategies, but it has been a struggle and a long one at that. Response 3 - M When I found kratom in the vape shops they told me that the white was stimulating, the red was sedating, and the green was somewhere In The middle. Additionally, I liked what Jacob said about mindset playing a bearing on the effectiveness of the substance. I love the podcast. I just got through my first day out of detox. CONNECT WITH US https://www.instagram.com/kratomsobriety https://twitter.com/kratomsobriety https://www.tiktok.com/@krat0ms0briety https://www.youtube.com/@KratomSobriety https://www.facebook.com/kratomsobriety QUITTING KRATOM SUPPORT MEETINGS https://www.kratommeetings.com CONTACT THE SHOW Voice: 313-437-7720 Email: [email protected] https://kratomsobriety.com PLEASE LEAVE A REVIEW https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/kratom-addiction/id1685569424 https://www.audible.com/podcast/Kratom-Addiction/B0C3YHDLV5 https://open.spotify.com/show/4GkQiYu6S8IBn8qswyVm00

International travel and kratom. Tony has battled kratom extract dependence over the years with multiple relapses and is determined to make this his final quit. With no prior history of addiction, a pivotal moment came during a trip abroad, where unplanned withdrawals caused a strain on his relationship with his wife and the moment became an important turning point. CONNECT WITH US https://www.instagram.com/kratomsobriety https://twitter.com/kratomsobriety https://www.tiktok.com/@krat0ms0briety https://www.youtube.com/@KratomSobriety https://www.facebook.com/kratomsobriety QUITTING KRATOM SUPPORT MEETINGS https://www.kratommeetings.com CONTACT THE SHOW Voice: 313-437-7720 Email: [email protected] https://kratomsobriety.com PLEASE LEAVE A REVIEW https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/kratom-addiction/id1685569424 https://www.audible.com/podcast/Kratom-Addiction/B0C3YHDLV5 https://open.spotify.com/show/4GkQiYu6S8IBn8qswyVm00

So listeners, tell us your experience, did you find kratom stimulating at low doses and sedating at higher doses? We will read audience responses on a future episode. And as an incentive, the podcast will donate $20 to the non-political charity of your choice, so think children, pets, nature, wildlife, addiction, etc. those types of nonprofits. This also serves as an experiment, meaning, DOES ANYONE READ THE SHOW NOTES? If yes, please send to [email protected] about your dose dependent experience with kratom being stimulating versus sedating. While studying to become a peer recovery specialist substance abuse, Justin K. started to use kratom. His use progressed over time, and he started to consume 7ohm tablets. Eventually, he starts spending $200 or more a day. He decided to go to the hospital to detox and worked with his doctor to be treated with Medications for Opioid Use Discord (MOUD). Alongside support groups and therapy, Justin has been off kratom since November 13, 2024. CONNECT WITH US https://www.instagram.com/kratomsobriety https://twitter.com/kratomsobriety https://www.tiktok.com/@krat0ms0briety https://www.youtube.com/@KratomSobriety https://www.facebook.com/kratomsobriety QUITTING KRATOM SUPPORT MEETINGS https://www.kratommeetings.com CONTACT THE SHOW Voice: 313-437-7720 Email: [email protected] https://kratomsobriety.com PLEASE LEAVE A REVIEW https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/kratom-addiction/id1685569424 https://www.audible.com/podcast/Kratom-Addiction/B0C3YHDLV5 https://open.spotify.com/show/4GkQiYu6S8IBn8qswyVm00

A powder user, Misty quit kratom twice. First five years ago cold turkey, with horrible acute withdrawals for a month and then hard protracted withdrawals for half a year. Formerly addicted to heroin, she felt the withdrawals were just as bad if not worse. This second quit in May 2023, she got the SUBLOCADE® shot (buprenorphine injection). This resulted in no withdrawals and allowed her to take care of her four children without taking any time off. Initially taking kratom for a boost in energy starting in 2016ish, Misty's side effects from kratom including severe constipation, extreme weight loss, hair loss, fits of rage, wobbles/pre seizures and a scary choking incident with a clump of powder stuck (and not easily dislodged) in her windpipe. She was consuming a kilo and half at her top usage, which was up to 50 grams a day. Good news, a year and half off kratom - she is back to normal, and her hair went from 75% gone to only 25% missing, and no more losing her cool either! CONNECT WITH US https://www.instagram.com/kratomsobriety https://twitter.com/kratomsobriety https://www.tiktok.com/@krat0ms0briety https://www.youtube.com/@KratomSobriety https://www.facebook.com/kratomsobriety QUITTING KRATOM SUPPORT MEETINGS https://www.kratommeetings.com CONTACT THE SHOW Voice: 313-437-7720 Email: [email protected] https://kratomsobriety.com PLEASE LEAVE A REVIEW https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/kratom-addiction/id1685569424 https://www.audible.com/podcast/Kratom-Addiction/B0C3YHDLV5 https://open.spotify.com/show/4GkQiYu6S8IBn8qswyVm00

Make a plan to quit. Cassidy was 16 when she first tried kratom, buying from a gas station near her home. Her use escalated to street drugs and a stint in rehab, and her recovery includes addressing mental health issues and getting ready to go to college. CONNECT WITH US https://www.instagram.com/kratomsobriety https://twitter.com/kratomsobriety https://www.tiktok.com/@krat0ms0briety https://www.youtube.com/@KratomSobriety https://www.facebook.com/kratomsobriety QUITTING KRATOM SUPPORT MEETINGS https://www.kratommeetings.com CONTACT THE SHOW Voice: 313-437-7720 Email: [email protected] https://kratomsobriety.com PLEASE LEAVE A REVIEW https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/kratom-addiction/id1685569424 https://www.audible.com/podcast/Kratom-Addiction/B0C3YHDLV5 https://open.spotify.com/show/4GkQiYu6S8IBn8qswyVm00

A study co-authored by Dr. Christopher McCurdy concludes "...the public needs to be warned about this public health problem and heed the Food and Drug Administration’s warning on kratom being a drug of concern." Link study: https://tinyurl.com/bdrewda6 The academic article provides evidence that kratom alone can cause death, though such cases are relatively rare compared to polysubstance kratom fatalities. It is possible that these numbers could represent an undercount as kratom is not universally tested for in all fatalities. It is possible that some but definitely not all of these cases may represent deaths where other substances, adulterated kratom, or health conditions may not have been detected. Key findings supporting kratom causing death: 1) Sole Substance Deaths Analyzed: * Among 551 mitragynine-positive cases, 36 (6.5%) had no other substances present at the time of death. * In these cases, mitragynine was determined to be the sole cause of death through autopsy and toxicology. 2) Other Research Cited: * Previous studies, such as Olsen et al. (2019), documented a few cases where mitragynine was the only substance detected in fatal intoxications. * Additional case reports (e.g., Behonick et al. 2022) confirmed fatalities where kratom alone led to outcomes like cardiac arrest, seizures, or respiratory failure. Journal of Addiction Medicine https://journals.lww.com/journaladdictionmedicine/abstract/9900/the_associations_of_kratom__mitragynine_,_opioids,.408.aspx Links from this week's guests: Kratom Danger Awareness: https://www.facebook.com/share/g/1DU1RfAvdd/?mibextid=wwXIfr Documentary A Beautiful Life Stolen: https://abeautifullifestolen.com/documentary-1 Documentary Tampa Bay Times, Deadly Dose: https://youtu.be/ys01SU2BpWE Sue's TikTok @krat0mdangers: https://www.tiktok.com/@krat0mdangers?_t=ZT-8ta2H2Dngwo&_r=1 Press conference of Sue with her lawyers: https://youtu.be/mUHECdNFIkc Testimony in Tinley Park, Kratom banned: https://www.youtube.com/live/fJx1JzBRfJw?si=sj486Q982UvvvxnY CONNECT WITH US https://www.instagram.com/kratomsobriety https://twitter.com/kratomsobriety https://www.tiktok.com/@krat0ms0briety https://www.youtube.com/@KratomSobriety https://www.facebook.com/kratomsobriety QUITTING KRATOM SUPPORT MEETINGS https://www.kratommeetings.com CONTACT THE SHOW Voice: 313-437-7720 Email: [email protected] https://kratomsobriety.com PLEASE LEAVE A REVIEW https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/kratom-addiction/id1685569424 https://www.audible.com/podcast/Kratom-Addiction/B0C3YHDLV5 https://open.spotify.com/show/4GkQiYu6S8IBn8qswyVm00

Imagining kratom Superbowl commercials. Focusing on the impact on his family and remembering an earlier time in his life when he abused opioids, in Nolan's first pod interview, Brandon found that a little tonic he bought at the gas station (and endorsed by some collegiate sports teams) tuned into a heavy addiction he found hard to quit. Nolan's quitting kratom YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@Nolanwrites CONNECT WITH US https://www.instagram.com/kratomsobriety https://twitter.com/kratomsobriety https://www.tiktok.com/@krat0ms0briety https://www.youtube.com/@KratomSobriety https://www.facebook.com/kratomsobriety QUITTING KRATOM SUPPORT MEETINGS https://www.kratommeetings.com CONTACT THE SHOW Voice: 313-437-7720 Email: [email protected] https://kratomsobriety.com PLEASE LEAVE A REVIEW https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/kratom-addiction/id1685569424 https://www.audible.com/podcast/Kratom-Addiction/B0C3YHDLV5 https://open.spotify.com/show/4GkQiYu6S8IBn8qswyVm00

Casey Grover, MD FACEP FASAM https://www.addictionmedicinemadeeasy.com/about-5 Post-acute Withdrawal Syndrome DOI: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36731102/ The Science on Kratom: Kratom Journal Club (podcast episode) https://tinyurl.com/59bmbetc CONNECT WITH US https://www.instagram.com/kratomsobriety https://twitter.com/kratomsobriety https://www.tiktok.com/@krat0ms0briety https://www.youtube.com/@KratomSobriety https://www.facebook.com/kratomsobriety QUITTING KRATOM SUPPORT MEETINGS https://www.kratommeetings.com CONTACT THE SHOW Voice: 313-437-7720 Email: [email protected] https://kratomsobriety.com PLEASE LEAVE A REVIEW https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/kratom-addiction/id1685569424 https://www.audible.com/podcast/Kratom-Addiction/B0C3YHDLV5 https://open.spotify.com/show/4GkQiYu6S8IBn8qswyVm00

Tips for tapering. Alec had to go to residential treatment to overcome his kratom addiction. Bouncing back after a recent relapse, he is now off kratom and buckling in for long term journey. 1) Kratom Tapering Tool For Quitting - Google Sheets https://tinyurl.com/mr29nrfz 2) How to Quit Kratom [Tapering, Supplements, & Cold Turkey] - Tripsitter https://tripsitter.com/kratom/how-to-quit/ 3) Tapering | Quitting Kratom Support https://kratomquitters.com/tapering CONNECT WITH US https://www.instagram.com/kratomsobriety https://twitter.com/kratomsobriety https://www.tiktok.com/@krat0ms0briety https://www.youtube.com/@KratomSobriety https://www.facebook.com/kratomsobriety QUITTING KRATOM SUPPORT MEETINGS https://www.kratommeetings.com CONTACT THE SHOW Voice: 313-437-7720 Email: [email protected] https://kratomsobriety.com PLEASE LEAVE A REVIEW https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/kratom-addiction/id1685569424 https://www.audible.com/podcast/Kratom-Addiction/B0C3YHDLV5 https://open.spotify.com/show/4GkQiYu6S8IBn8qswyVm00

Despite working as a substance abuse counselor, Desiree shares about her experience from initial kratom use to severe dependency and the physical and mental toll it took on her, eventually leading to a determined effort to seek help and achieve freedom from the kava-kratom tonics with support from her sister. NOTE: At the podcast, we are experimenting with posting two interviews a week, one on Wednesdays and continuing with our traditional episodes on Sundays. We have a list of 20 people who want to be guests, so we want to accommodate the interest of people to appear on the show. Love Yourself Like Your Life Depends on It by Kamal Ravikant, Hardcover | Barnes & Noble https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/love-yourself-like-your-life-depends-on-it-kamal-ravikant/1112108294 CONNECT WITH US https://www.instagram.com/kratomsobriety https://twitter.com/kratomsobriety https://www.tiktok.com/@krat0ms0briety https://www.youtube.com/@KratomSobriety https://www.facebook.com/kratomsobriety QUITTING KRATOM SUPPORT MEETINGS https://www.kratommeetings.com CONTACT THE SHOW Voice: 313-437-7720 Email: [email protected] https://kratomsobriety.com PLEASE LEAVE A REVIEW https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/kratom-addiction/id1685569424 https://www.audible.com/podcast/Kratom-Addiction/B0C3YHDLV5 https://open.spotify.com/show/4GkQiYu6S8IBn8qswyVm00

Libby and Jacob discuss quitting mindset hacks. Eric is a 50-something dad who used kratom capsules for eight years before he realized it was not the life enhancer he had convinced himself it was. With no previous history of addiction, Eric discusses tapering tips and other advice from his nine months off kratom. Love Yourself Like Your Life Depends on It by Kamal Ravikant, Hardcover | Barnes & Noble https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/love-yourself-like-your-life-depends-on-it-kamal-ravikant/1112108294 CONNECT WITH US https://www.instagram.com/kratomsobriety https://twitter.com/kratomsobriety https://www.tiktok.com/@krat0ms0briety https://www.youtube.com/@KratomSobriety https://www.facebook.com/kratomsobriety QUITTING KRATOM SUPPORT MEETINGS https://www.kratommeetings.com CONTACT THE SHOW Voice: 313-437-7720 Email: [email protected] https://kratomsobriety.com PLEASE LEAVE A REVIEW https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/kratom-addiction/id1685569424 https://www.audible.com/podcast/Kratom-Addiction/B0C3YHDLV5 https://open.spotify.com/show/4GkQiYu6S8IBn8qswyVm00

Dear Listeners, By far, the most painful thing about hosting this podcast and in the quitting kratom community writ large, is the conflict about the use of Suboxone or buprenorphine to treat kratom addiction. Please try to see both sides, now. On one hand, often victims of the opioid pill crisis of the 2000s and many moving on to heroin or street drugs, we have a bunch of listeners who came to kratom to get off Suboxone. These folks often have quit both drugs and Suboxone multiple times. Many have had honeymoon periods with Suboxone where it helped for some block of time but eventually stopped being a positive experience. Almost all of them had horrendous trouble with stopping the subs with hard and difficult withdrawals from subs. Some first time kratom quitters with bad Suboxone experiences as well. All these folks feel very strongly they have an obligation to warn others about this, as they wish they had been warned. On the other hand, we have listeners who have a horrible kratom addiction, often to extract products. These typically result in very expensive habits spending $100 to $200 per day. Some of these folks have been able to quit multiple times but end up relapsing back on kratom. A few of them end up feeling suicidal from being stuck in this cycle. Out of desperation, they turn to seeing an addiction doctor and are prescribed buprenorphine. Many of these folks feel strongly that bupe saved their lives, but they feel judged not by the general public but by their own peers in the recovery community. They worry many others are being scared from trying Suboxone and are needlessly suffering stuck in addiction because of stigmatization of a valid treatment pathway. Please try to see both sides, now. Sincerely, Charlie CONNECT WITH US https://www.instagram.com/kratomsobriety https://twitter.com/kratomsobriety https://www.tiktok.com/@krat0ms0briety https://www.youtube.com/@KratomSobriety https://www.facebook.com/kratomsobriety QUITTING KRATOM SUPPORT MEETINGS https://www.kratommeetings.com CONTACT THE SHOW Voice: 313-437-7720 Email: [email protected] https://kratomsobriety.com PLEASE LEAVE A REVIEW https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/kratom-addiction/id1685569424 https://www.audible.com/podcast/Kratom-Addiction/B0C3YHDLV5 https://open.spotify.com/show/4GkQiYu6S8IBn8qswyVm00

Jacob and Libby talk about not trying to overdue your early days of quitting with too many goals and setting yourself up for failure. A nurse with no previous addiction history, Mitch became dependent on the kava-kratom tonics. He discusses how he quit and explores a range of kratom related medical topics as well as bouncing back after a relapse where he told himself he would just have "one". RESOURCE OF THE WEEK Stasis - Your Brain, Balanced. https://takestasis.com/ Withdrawal supplement recommended by Mitch. CONNECT WITH US https://www.instagram.com/kratomsobriety https://twitter.com/kratomsobriety https://www.tiktok.com/@krat0ms0briety https://www.youtube.com/@KratomSobriety https://www.facebook.com/kratomsobriety QUITTING KRATOM SUPPORT MEETINGS https://www.kratommeetings.com CONTACT THE SHOW Voice: 313-437-7720 Email: [email protected] https://kratomsobriety.com PLEASE LEAVE A REVIEW https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/kratom-addiction/id1685569424 https://www.audible.com/podcast/Kratom-Addiction/B0C3YHDLV5 https://open.spotify.com/show/4GkQiYu6S8IBn8qswyVm00

Decima talks with Libby and Jacob to catchup on last six months and to discuss additional resources and tools for quitting. Support for Kratom Addiction Recovery Meetings and Resources | Quitting Kratom Support https://kratomquitters.com/ CONNECT WITH US https://www.instagram.com/kratomsobriety https://twitter.com/kratomsobriety https://www.tiktok.com/@krat0ms0briety https://www.youtube.com/@KratomSobriety https://www.facebook.com/kratomsobriety QUITTING KRATOM SUPPORT MEETINGS https://www.kratommeetings.com CONTACT THE SHOW Voice: 313-437-7720 Email: [email protected] https://kratomsobriety.com PLEASE LEAVE A REVIEW https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/kratom-addiction/id1685569424 https://www.audible.com/podcast/Kratom-Addiction/B0C3YHDLV5 https://open.spotify.com/show/4GkQiYu6S8IBn8qswyVm00

Libby and Jacob talk about 7ohm and mitragynine. Melanie was opioid-naive when she walked into a vape shop and sold 7ohm pills. She was blindsided and wrecked by FULL BLOWN opioid withdrawals that many, many more people are seeking professional treatment for because of their ridiculous intensity. CONNECT WITH US https://www.instagram.com/kratomsobriety https://twitter.com/kratomsobriety https://www.tiktok.com/@krat0ms0briety https://www.youtube.com/@KratomSobriety https://www.facebook.com/kratomsobriety QUITTING KRATOM SUPPORT MEETINGS https://www.kratommeetings.com CONTACT THE SHOW Voice: 313-437-7720 Email: [email protected] https://kratomsobriety.com PLEASE LEAVE A REVIEW https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/kratom-addiction/id1685569424 https://www.audible.com/podcast/Kratom-Addiction/B0C3YHDLV5 https://open.spotify.com/show/4GkQiYu6S8IBn8qswyVm00

HEADS UP: This week the interview is someone who stopped an extreme kratom-kava drink habit but is continuing to use kratom as a harm reduction strategy. While the podcast, based on our expertise, believes 100% abstinence from kratom is necessary for most past problematic kratom users, we feel sharing Joey L.'s story turning his life around after getting up to like 17 tonic shots a day, is worth telling. CONNECT WITH US https://www.instagram.com/kratomsobriety https://twitter.com/kratomsobriety https://www.tiktok.com/@krat0ms0briety https://www.youtube.com/@KratomSobriety https://www.facebook.com/kratomsobriety QUITTING KRATOM SUPPORT MEETINGS https://www.kratommeetings.com CONTACT THE SHOW Voice: 313-437-7720 Email: [email protected] https://kratomsobriety.com PLEASE LEAVE A REVIEW https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/kratom-addiction/id1685569424 https://www.audible.com/podcast/Kratom-Addiction/B0C3YHDLV5 https://open.spotify.com/show/4GkQiYu6S8IBn8qswyVm00

Happy New Year! Just a quitting interview this week. David M. escalated into an expensive kava-kratom product habit. His family surprised him with an "intervention". After a short-term medical detox, he is now almost a month kratom free! CONNECT WITH US https://www.instagram.com/kratomsobriety https://twitter.com/kratomsobriety https://www.tiktok.com/@krat0ms0briety https://www.youtube.com/@KratomSobriety https://www.facebook.com/kratomsobriety QUITTING KRATOM SUPPORT MEETINGS https://www.kratommeetings.com CONTACT THE SHOW Voice: 313-437-7720 Email: [email protected] https://kratomsobriety.com PLEASE LEAVE A REVIEW https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/kratom-addiction/id1685569424 https://www.audible.com/podcast/Kratom-Addiction/B0C3YHDLV5 https://open.spotify.com/show/4GkQiYu6S8IBn8qswyVm00

Please email or DM us on social media about any ideas you have for opening topics? An attorney, Rachel used kratom at first as it helped her productivity. While an active leader in a 12 step recovery program, she found herself addicted to kratom and realized she was not longer really "sober". CONNECT WITH US https://www.instagram.com/kratomsobriety https://twitter.com/kratomsobriety https://www.tiktok.com/@krat0ms0briety https://www.youtube.com/@KratomSobriety https://www.facebook.com/kratomsobriety QUITTING KRATOM SUPPORT MEETINGS https://www.kratommeetings.com CONTACT THE SHOW Voice: 313-437-7720 Email: [email protected] https://kratomsobriety.com PLEASE LEAVE A REVIEW https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/kratom-addiction/id1685569424 https://www.audible.com/podcast/Kratom-Addiction/B0C3YHDLV5 https://open.spotify.com/show/4GkQiYu6S8IBn8qswyVm00

Libby and Jacob talk about the positives of quitting. Christina follows a week after her wife was on the pod. She talks with Libby about their joint journey in quitting, including a plunge in great despair with a turnaround to where life is now worth living. CONNECT WITH US https://www.instagram.com/kratomsobriety https://twitter.com/kratomsobriety https://www.tiktok.com/@krat0ms0briety https://www.youtube.com/@KratomSobriety https://www.facebook.com/kratomsobriety QUITTING KRATOM SUPPORT MEETINGS https://www.kratommeetings.com CONTACT THE SHOW Voice: 313-437-7720 Email: [email protected] https://kratomsobriety.com PLEASE LEAVE A REVIEW https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/kratom-addiction/id1685569424 https://www.audible.com/podcast/Kratom-Addiction/B0C3YHDLV5 https://open.spotify.com/show/4GkQiYu6S8IBn8qswyVm00

Kelly worked in the kava industry for years and cold turkey quit this summer alongside her partner Christina and three cats! They now give back and host the Tuesday night meetings at 8pm Eastern. Check out those recovery support meetings now available every day at 8pm (as well as three days a week at Noon!) Support for Kratom Addiction Recovery Meetings and Resources | Quitting Kratom Support https://kratomquitters.com/ CONNECT WITH US https://www.instagram.com/kratomsobriety https://twitter.com/kratomsobriety https://www.tiktok.com/@krat0ms0briety https://www.youtube.com/@KratomSobriety https://www.facebook.com/kratomsobriety QUITTING KRATOM SUPPORT MEETINGS https://www.kratommeetings.com CONTACT THE SHOW Voice: 313-437-7720 Email: [email protected] https://kratomsobriety.com PLEASE LEAVE A REVIEW https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/kratom-addiction/id1685569424 https://www.audible.com/podcast/Kratom-Addiction/B0C3YHDLV5 https://open.spotify.com/show/4GkQiYu6S8IBn8qswyVm00

Jacob discusses gratitude and holiday coping tips. After five years of nonproblematic kratom use, Jake B. talks about quitting kratom multiple times in the last year and as his only addiction with no prior history of abusing other substances. SHOW NOTE: "Kratom in the Headlines" and "Resource of the Week" segments are on a semi-permanent hiatus. CONNECT WITH US https://www.instagram.com/kratomsobriety https://twitter.com/kratomsobriety https://www.tiktok.com/@krat0ms0briety https://www.youtube.com/@KratomSobriety https://www.facebook.com/kratomsobriety QUITTING KRATOM SUPPORT MEETINGS https://www.kratommeetings.com CONTACT THE SHOW Voice: 313-437-7720 Email: [email protected] https://kratomsobriety.com PLEASE LEAVE A REVIEW https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/kratom-addiction/id1685569424 https://www.audible.com/podcast/Kratom-Addiction/B0C3YHDLV5 https://open.spotify.com/show/4GkQiYu6S8IBn8qswyVm00

How much to keep the subject of kratom in your life after you quit? In week 2 of a two-part series interviewing a couple struggling with kratom addiction together, Libby talks with Aminah, Mic's partner from last week's guest. SHOW NOTE: "Kratom in the Headlines" and "Resource of the Week" segments are on a semi-permanent hiatus. CONNECT WITH US https://www.instagram.com/kratomsobriety https://twitter.com/kratomsobriety https://www.tiktok.com/@krat0ms0briety https://www.youtube.com/@KratomSobriety https://www.facebook.com/kratomsobriety QUITTING KRATOM SUPPORT MEETINGS https://www.kratommeetings.com CONTACT THE SHOW Voice: 313-437-7720 Email: [email protected] https://kratomsobriety.com PLEASE LEAVE A REVIEW https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/kratom-addiction/id1685569424 https://www.audible.com/podcast/Kratom-Addiction/B0C3YHDLV5 https://open.spotify.com/show/4GkQiYu6S8IBn8qswyVm00

Relationships and kratom. In week one of a two-part series interviewing a couple struggling with kratom addiction together, Libby talks with Mic about his successful quit from a powder habit that lasted about seven years. To find Mic: https://bio.site/micro https://instagram.com/theproducermicro https://kratomquitters.com RESOURCE OF WEEK Try Quit Kit https://tryquitkit.com/ CONNECT WITH US https://www.instagram.com/kratomsobriety https://twitter.com/kratomsobriety https://www.tiktok.com/@krat0ms0briety https://www.youtube.com/@KratomSobriety https://www.facebook.com/kratomsobriety QUITTING KRATOM SUPPORT MEETINGS https://www.kratommeetings.com CONTACT THE SHOW Voice: 313-437-7720 Email: [email protected] https://kratomsobriety.com PLEASE LEAVE A REVIEW https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/kratom-addiction/id1685569424 https://www.audible.com/podcast/Kratom-Addiction/B0C3YHDLV5 https://open.spotify.com/show/4GkQiYu6S8IBn8qswyVm00

Special episode on "relapse". After four years of kratom use, Alison hit a bottom with a $100 per day kava-kratom tonic habit. She went to 30-day rehab after her child saw her throwing up outside her car one day. Alison is now 53 days kratom free, doing 90 meetings in 90 days, both AA and online kratom recovery meetings. Relapse Quote: "I am not defined by my relapses, but by my decision to remain in recovery despite them." Don't quit quitting! RESOURCE OF WEEK Reducing Relapse Risk - Whole Health Library https://www.va.gov/WHOLEHEALTHLIBRARY/tools/reducing-relapse-risk.asp KRATOM IN HEADLINES Addiction Relapse Prevention - StatPearls - NCBI Bookshelf https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK551500/ CONNECT WITH US https://www.instagram.com/kratomsobriety https://twitter.com/kratomsobriety https://www.tiktok.com/@krat0ms0briety https://www.youtube.com/@KratomSobriety https://www.facebook.com/kratomsobriety QUITTING KRATOM SUPPORT MEETINGS https://www.kratommeetings.com CONTACT THE SHOW Voice: 313-437-7720 Email: [email protected] https://kratomsobriety.com PLEASE LEAVE A REVIEW https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/kratom-addiction/id1685569424 https://www.audible.com/podcast/Kratom-Addiction/B0C3YHDLV5 https://open.spotify.com/show/4GkQiYu6S8IBn8qswyVm00

Special episode on PAWS (Post-Acute Withdrawal Syndrome). Nick B. discusses his three ibogaine treatments to address his kratom addiction. Nick on confronting the root of addiction: “Odds are your drug addiction comes from some sort of trauma… really try to focus on your traumas. It took me a long time to realize that.” On not doing it alone: “Ask for help. It sucks. It’s embarrassing… but I can guarantee you will feel so much better after you ask for help. So much better.” The ibogaine center Nick went to in Mexico: https://beondibogaine.com/ Find Nick on IG: https://www.instagram.com/nickbecker64/ Nick's ibogaine recording: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Qh0FViie0pQe43zPDRfxPdgYeAvb7D8n/view?usp=sharing RESOURCE OF WEEK Post-Acute Withdrawal Syndrome and Opioids https://www.webmd.com/mental-health/addiction/opioids-post-acute-withdrawal-syndrome How Long Does PAWS last? Will I ever be 100%? The Data! : r/quittingkratom https://www.reddit.com/r/quittingkratom/comments/9s4oyk/how_long_does_paws_last_will_i_ever_be_100_the/ Post-acute Withdrawal Syndrome - PubMed https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36731102/ KRATOM IN HEADLINES Alsheikh, M. Y. 2021. “Post-Acute Withdrawal Syndrome: The Major Cause of Relapse among Psychoactive Substances Addicted Users.” Archives of Pharmacy Practice. https://archivepp.com/article/post-acute-withdrawal-syndrome-the-major-cause-of-relapse-among-psychoactive-substances-addicted-us-3rjilapzgvd5zia. CONNECT WITH US https://www.instagram.com/kratomsobriety https://twitter.com/kratomsobriety https://www.tiktok.com/@krat0ms0briety https://www.youtube.com/@KratomSobriety https://www.facebook.com/kratomsobriety QUITTING KRATOM SUPPORT MEETINGS https://www.kratommeetings.com CONTACT THE SHOW Voice: 313-437-7720 Email: [email protected] https://kratomsobriety.com PLEASE LEAVE A REVIEW https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/kratom-addiction/id1685569424 https://www.audible.com/podcast/Kratom-Addiction/B0C3YHDLV5 https://open.spotify.com/show/4GkQiYu6S8IBn8qswyVm00

Libby and Jacob discuss some podcast comments from pro-kratom people who obviously never listened to an episode. Travis talks to Charlie about getting caught up with drinking kratom tea at Florida bars, experimenting with tapering to get off and taking to TiKTok to reach out to others struggling. RESOURCE OF WEEK TiKTok follows: Travis @kr8tomwarrior Jasmine @jasmineadeoye_ KRATOM IN THE HEADLINES Senate approves new restrictions on sale of kratom and cannabis-derivative HHC | Radio Prague International https://english.radio.cz/senate-approves-new-restrictions-sale-kratom-and-cannabis-derivative-hhc-8831305 Czech Senate Approves Restrictions On Sale Of Kratom And HHC Products - Benzinga https://www.benzinga.com/markets/cannabis/24/10/41295350/czech-senate-approves-restrictions-on-sale-of-kratom-and-hhc-products CONNECT WITH US https://www.instagram.com/kratomsobriety https://twitter.com/kratomsobriety https://www.tiktok.com/@krat0ms0briety https://www.youtube.com/@KratomSobriety https://www.facebook.com/kratomsobriety QUITTING KRATOM SUPPORT MEETINGS https://www.kratommeetings.com CONTACT THE SHOW Voice: 313-437-7720 Email: [email protected] https://kratomsobriety.com PLEASE LEAVE A REVIEW https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/kratom-addiction/id1685569424 https://www.audible.com/podcast/Kratom-Addiction/B0C3YHDLV5 https://open.spotify.com/show/4GkQiYu6S8IBn8qswyVm00