Killer Instinct

Sharon Lopatka's kink was more than BDSM, she had a fantasy of being tortured to death. Was her murder consensual homicide? If you have any thoughts on this case or any other case, or just want to get in touch with Savannah about the show, email her at [email protected]. Watch the podcast on YouTube: https://bit.ly/KillerInstinctYT Don’t forget to subscribe to the podcast for free wherever you're listening or by using this link: http://bit.ly/KillerInstinctPod If you like the show, telling a friend about it would be helpful! You can text, email, Tweet, or send this link to a friend: http://bit.ly/KillerInstinctPod Follow Savannah on IG: @savannahbrymer Follow Savannah on Twitter: @savannahbrymer Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

In October 2014, Christopher Regan went missing. His mysterious absence was reported to the police by a concerned friend, and an investigation led to a bizarre web of events. Get a 4-week trial, free postage, and a digital scale at https://www.stamps.com/killer. Thanks to Stamps.com for sponsoring the show! Enjoy Suspect: Five Shots in the Dark on the Wondery App or wherever you get your podcasts. You can listen to Suspect early and ad-free on Wondery Plus. Join Wondery Plus in the Wondery App or on Apple Podcasts. If you have any thoughts on this case or any other case, or just want to get in touch with Savannah about the show, email her at [email protected]. Watch the podcast on YouTube: https://bit.ly/KillerInstinctYT Don’t forget to subscribe to the podcast for free wherever you're listening or by using this link: http://bit.ly/KillerInstinctPod If you like the show, telling a friend about it would be helpful! You can text, email, Tweet, or send this link to a friend: http://bit.ly/KillerInstinctPod Follow Savannah on IG: @savannahbrymer Follow Savannah on Twitter: @savannahbrymer Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Amy Lynn Bradley went missing during a Caribbean cruise 1998. Her whereabouts remain unknown to this day. Enjoy Suspect: Five Shots in the Dark on the Wondery App or wherever you get your podcasts. You can listen to Suspect early and ad-free on Wondery Plus. Join Wondery Plus in the Wondery App or on Apple Podcasts. If you have any thoughts on this case or any other case, or just want to get in touch with Savannah about the show, email her at [email protected]. Watch the podcast on YouTube: https://bit.ly/KillerInstinctYT Don’t forget to subscribe to the podcast for free wherever you're listening or by using this link: http://bit.ly/KillerInstinctPod If you like the show, telling a friend about it would be helpful! You can text, email, Tweet, or send this link to a friend: http://bit.ly/KillerInstinctPod Follow Savannah on IG: @savannahbrymer Follow Savannah on Twitter: @savannahbrymer Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Carolyn Exum called police after she found her husband brutally murdered in their home. The mysterious pickup truck down the street unravels a twisted story of murder, obsession, and betrayal. Start building your credit up. Open a Chime Checking account with at least a $200 qualifying direct deposit to get started. Get started at chime.com/killer If you have any thoughts on this case or any other case, or just want to get in touch with Savannah about the show, email her at [email protected]. Watch the podcast on YouTube: https://bit.ly/KillerInstinctYT Don’t forget to subscribe to the podcast for free wherever you're listening or by using this link: http://bit.ly/KillerInstinctPod If you like the show, telling a friend about it would be helpful! You can text, email, Tweet, or send this link to a friend: http://bit.ly/KillerInstinctPod Follow Savannah on IG: @savannahbrymer Follow Savannah on Twitter: @savannahbrymer Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Chris Denoyer's family received a telegram from "Chris" saying he had run away, but this letter seemed suspicious...and the truth finally came out. Get a 4-week trial, free postage, and a digital scale at https://www.stamps.com/killer Thanks to Stamps.com for sponsoring the show! If you have any thoughts on this case or any other case, or just want to get in touch with Savannah about the show, email her at [email protected]. Watch the podcast on YouTube: https://bit.ly/KillerInstinctYT Don’t forget to subscribe to the podcast for free wherever you're listening or by using this link: http://bit.ly/KillerInstinctPod If you like the show, telling a friend about it would be helpful! You can text, email, Tweet, or send this link to a friend: http://bit.ly/KillerInstinctPod Follow Savannah on IG: @savannahbrymer Follow Savannah on Twitter: @savannahbrymer Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

On a serene residential street in Gulfport, Florida, tragedy strikes as Karen Gregory meets a violent end in the confines of her own home. The hallways bear witness to her untimely demise, leaving the neighborhood reeling with shock and unanswered questions. For two long years, the police relentlessly pursue the truth, unaware that the enigmatic figure responsible for Karen's murder lurks just within their grasp. If you have any thoughts on this case or any other case, or just want to get in touch with Savannah about the show, email her at [email protected]. Watch the podcast on YouTube: https://bit.ly/KillerInstinctYT Don’t forget to subscribe to the podcast for free wherever you're listening or by using this link: http://bit.ly/KillerInstinctPod If you like the show, telling a friend about it would be helpful! You can text, email, Tweet, or send this link to a friend: http://bit.ly/KillerInstinctPod Follow Savannah on IG: @savannahbrymer Follow Savannah on Twitter: @savannahbrymer Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Continued: What truly occurred when Robert Wone stayed at his friend's guest house remains an unsolved mystery. Go Right Now for 50% off your no-risk two week trial at TryNom.com/KILLER If you have any thoughts on this case or any other case, or just want to get in touch with Savannah about the show, email her at [email protected]. Watch the podcast on YouTube: https://bit.ly/KillerInstinctYT Don’t forget to subscribe to the podcast for free wherever you're listening or by using this link: http://bit.ly/KillerInstinctPod If you like the show, telling a friend about it would be helpful! You can text, email, Tweet, or send this link to a friend: http://bit.ly/KillerInstinctPod Follow Savannah on IG: @savannahbrymer Follow Savannah on Twitter: @savannahbrymer Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

What truly occurred when Robert Wone stayed at his friend's guest house remains an unsolved mystery. Be sure to tune in next week for Pt 2 of this episode. Get a 4-week trial, free postage, and a digital scale at https://www.stamps.com/killer. Thanks to Stamps.com for sponsoring the show! Download the free Angi mobile app today or visit https://Angi.com If you have any thoughts on this case or any other case, or just want to get in touch with Savannah about the show, email her at [email protected]. Watch the podcast on YouTube: https://bit.ly/KillerInstinctYT Don’t forget to subscribe to the podcast for free wherever you're listening or by using this link: http://bit.ly/KillerInstinctPod If you like the show, telling a friend about it would be helpful! You can text, email, Tweet, or send this link to a friend: http://bit.ly/KillerInstinctPod Follow Savannah on IG: @savannahbrymer Follow Savannah on Twitter: @savannahbrymer Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Rather than settling for divorce, Lulu Sosa attempted to have a hitman kill her husband, Roman Sosa. Investigators helped Ramon stage an elaborate plan to fake his death. Get started at chime.com/killer JULIECARE.CO If you have any thoughts on this case or any other case, or just want to get in touch with Savannah about the show, email her at [email protected]. Watch the podcast on YouTube: https://bit.ly/KillerInstinctYT Don’t forget to subscribe to the podcast for free wherever you're listening or by using this link: http://bit.ly/KillerInstinctPod If you like the show, telling a friend about it would be helpful! You can text, email, Tweet, or send this link to a friend: http://bit.ly/KillerInstinctPod Follow Savannah on IG: @savannahbrymer Follow Savannah on Twitter: @savannahbrymer Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Becky Bliefnick was found murdered in her own home after she told her sister via text message, "If something ever happens to me, make sure the first person of interest is [my husband]" If you have any thoughts on this case or any other case, or just want to get in touch with Savannah about the show, email her at [email protected]. Watch the podcast on YouTube: https://bit.ly/KillerInstinctYT Don’t forget to subscribe to the podcast for free wherever you're listening or by using this link: http://bit.ly/KillerInstinctPod If you like the show, telling a friend about it would be helpful! You can text, email, Tweet, or send this link to a friend: http://bit.ly/KillerInstinctPod Follow Savannah on IG: @savannahbrymer Follow Savannah on Twitter: @savannahbrymer Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Diane Staudte and her daughter, Rachel Staudte, conspired to kill their immediate family. Their first victim was Diane's husband, Mark Staudte, followed by their autistic 26-year-old son, Shaun Staudte, five months later. Sarah Staudte, another daughter who was also poisoned, survived but suffered physical and neurological damage. Diane Staudte was convicted in 2016 and received a life sentence without parole, while Rachel Staudte pleaded guilty to second-degree murder in 2015 and was sentenced in March 2016 to life in prison with the possibility of parole after testifying against her mother. Stop throwing your money away. Cancel unwanted subscriptions – and manage your expenses the easy way – by going to RocketMoney.com/killer If you have any thoughts on this case or any other case, or just want to get in touch with Savannah about the show, email her at [email protected]. Watch the podcast on YouTube: https://bit.ly/KillerInstinctYT Don’t forget to subscribe to the podcast for free wherever you're listening or by using this link: http://bit.ly/KillerInstinctPod If you like the show, telling a friend about it would be helpful! You can text, email, Tweet, or send this link to a friend: http://bit.ly/KillerInstinctPod Follow Savannah on IG: @savannahbrymer Follow Savannah on Twitter: @savannahbrymer Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Today would have been Jaclyn Dowaliby's 42nd birthday if had she not been kidnapped in the middle of the night from her bedroom and murdered. Her mother and stepfather Cynthia and David Dowaliby were arrested for the murder of their daughter, but eventually acquitted. To this day, no one else has ever been charged. You can go to JULIECARE.CO to learn more or find Julie at your nearest CVS, Target, or Walmart today. Go Right Now for 50% off your no-risk two week trial at TryNom.com/KILLER Follow MORBID wherever you get your podcasts. You can listen early and ad-free on the Amazon Music or Wondery app. If you have any thoughts on this case or any other case, or just want to get in touch with Savannah about the show, email her at [email protected]. Watch the podcast on YouTube: https://bit.ly/KillerInstinctYT Don’t forget to subscribe to the podcast for free wherever you're listening or by using this link: http://bit.ly/KillerInstinctPod If you like the show, telling a friend about it would be helpful! You can text, email, Tweet, or send this link to a friend: http://bit.ly/KillerInstinctPod Follow Savannah on IG: @savannahbrymer Follow Savannah on Twitter: @savannahbrymer Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Between 1977 and 1984, Cameron and Janice Hooker kept Colleen Stan inside a wooden box under their bed, only taking her out to torture her. Get started at chime.com/killer Get a 4-week trial, free postage, and a digital scale at https://www.stamps.com/killer. Thanks to Stamps.com for sponsoring the show! If you have any thoughts on this case or any other case, or just want to get in touch with Savannah about the show, email her at [email protected]. Watch the podcast on YouTube: https://bit.ly/KillerInstinctYT Don’t forget to subscribe to the podcast for free wherever you're listening or by using this link: http://bit.ly/KillerInstinctPod If you like the show, telling a friend about it would be helpful! You can text, email, Tweet, or send this link to a friend: http://bit.ly/KillerInstinctPod Follow Savannah on IG: @savannahbrymer Follow Savannah on Twitter: @savannahbrymer Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Marlene Warren was fatally shot in the face by someone dressed as a clown in May 1990. 30 years later, In April of 2023, the killer has pleaded guilty. Rocketmoney.com/killer Go to Stamps.com, click the microphone at the top of the page, and enter code KILLER If you have any thoughts on this case or any other case, or just want to get in touch with Savannah about the show, email her at [email protected]. Watch the podcast on YouTube: https://bit.ly/KillerInstinctYT Don’t forget to subscribe to the podcast for free wherever you're listening or by using this link: http://bit.ly/KillerInstinctPod If you like the show, telling a friend about it would be helpful! You can text, email, Tweet, or send this link to a friend: http://bit.ly/KillerInstinctPod Follow Savannah on IG: @savannahbrymer Follow Savannah on Twitter: @savannahbrymer Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Gail and her husband Rick Brink were murdered, but the case went cold for years. Twenty years later, the truth came out, revealing not only the unexpected murderer, but dark family secrets. Go to HelloFresh.com/killer50 and use code killer50 for 50% off, plus your first box ships free Give all the “moms” in your life a unique, heartfelt gift you’ll all cherish for years – StoryWorth! Right now, for a limited time, you’ll save $10 on your first purchase when you go to StoryWorth.com/killer! go to Stamps.com, click the microphone at the top of the page, and enter code KILLER If you have any thoughts on this case or any other case, or just want to get in touch with Savannah about the show, email her at [email protected]. Watch the podcast on YouTube: https://bit.ly/KillerInstinctYT Don’t forget to subscribe to the podcast for free wherever you're listening or by using this link: http://bit.ly/KillerInstinctPod If you like the show, telling a friend about it would be helpful! You can text, email, Tweet, or send this link to a friend: http://bit.ly/KillerInstinctPod Follow Savannah on IG: @savannahbrymer Follow Savannah on Twitter: @savannahbrymer Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Karlyn Ramirez was found dead on her bedroom floor holding her four-month-old daughter in her arms. Under layers of secret affairs, this staged murder was traced back to the true killer. Get a 4-week trial, free postage, and a digital scale at https://www.stamps.com/killer Thanks to Stamps.com for sponsoring the show! Juliecare.co Follow Generation Why wherever you get your podcasts. You can listen ad-free on the Amazon Music or Wondery app. If you have any thoughts on this case or any other case, or just want to get in touch with Savannah about the show, email her at [email protected]. Watch the podcast on YouTube: https://bit.ly/KillerInstinctYT Don’t forget to subscribe to the podcast for free wherever you're listening or by using this link: http://bit.ly/KillerInstinctPod If you like the show, telling a friend about it would be helpful! You can text, email, Tweet, or send this link to a friend: http://bit.ly/KillerInstinctPod Follow Savannah on IG: @savannahbrymer Follow Savannah on Twitter: @savannahbrymer Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

In 1984, 12-year-old Jonelle Matthews vanished from her family's home. The only evidence left behind were shoeprints in the snow – shoeprints someone tried to erase with a garden rake. 38 years later, her killer has finally been found. RocketMoney.com/killer Go to HelloFresh.com/killer50 and use code killer50 for 50% off, plus your first box ships free Get a 4-week trial, free postage, and a digital scale at https://www.stamps.com/killer. Thanks to Stamps.com for sponsoring the show! If you have any thoughts on this case or any other case, or just want to get in touch with Savannah about the show, email her at [email protected]. Watch the podcast on YouTube: https://bit.ly/KillerInstinctYT Don’t forget to subscribe to the podcast for free wherever you're listening or by using this link: http://bit.ly/KillerInstinctPod If you like the show, telling a friend about it would be helpful! You can text, email, Tweet, or send this link to a friend: http://bit.ly/KillerInstinctPod Follow Savannah on IG: @savannahbrymer Follow Savannah on Twitter: @savannahbrymer Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

In 1991, a young woman named Denise Huber mysteriously vanished. It wasn't until three years later that her lifeless body, restrained by handcuffs, was discovered in a freezer. While the murderer was found guilty of this horrific crime, evidence suggests that Denise may not be his only victim. Start making your financial dreams a reality with Chime. Signing up only takes two minutes and doesn’t affect your credit score. Get started at chime.com/killer Get a 4-week trial, free postage, and a digital scale at https://www.stamps.com/killer. Thanks to Stamps.com for sponsoring the show! If you have any thoughts on this case or any other case, or just want to get in touch with Savannah about the show, email her at [email protected]. Watch the podcast on YouTube: https://bit.ly/KillerInstinctYT Don’t forget to subscribe to the podcast for free wherever you're listening or by using this link: http://bit.ly/KillerInstinctPod If you like the show, telling a friend about it would be helpful! You can text, email, Tweet, or send this link to a friend: http://bit.ly/KillerInstinctPod Follow Savannah on IG: @savannahbrymer Follow Savannah on Twitter: @savannahbrymer Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

When Zachariah Anderson's ex-girlfriend started dating Rosalio Gutierrez, his jealous rage manifested in bizarre stalking. When Rosalio went missing, it was obvious Zachariah might be behind this sudden disappearance, but the evidence that convicted him of homicide was shocking. Get a 4-week trial, free postage, and a digital scale at https://www.stamps.com/killer. Thanks to Stamps.com for sponsoring the show! If you have any thoughts on this case or any other case, or just want to get in touch with Savannah about the show, email her at [email protected]. Watch the podcast on YouTube: https://bit.ly/KillerInstinctYT Don’t forget to subscribe to the podcast for free wherever you're listening or by using this link: http://bit.ly/KillerInstinctPod If you like the show, telling a friend about it would be helpful! You can text, email, Tweet, or send this link to a friend: http://bit.ly/KillerInstinctPod Follow Savannah on IG: @savannahbrymer Follow Savannah on Twitter: @savannahbrymer Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

This is the solved case of Daniel Halseth's brutal murder by his daughter, Sierra and her forbidden love, Aaron Guerrero. Stop throwing your money away. Cancel unwanted subscriptions – and manage your expenses the easy way – by going to RocketMoney.com/killer Follow THIS IS ACTUALLY HAPPENING wherever you listen to podcasts. You can listen ad-free on the Amazon Music or Wondery App. If you have any thoughts on this case or any other case, or just want to get in touch with Savannah about the show, email her at [email protected]. Watch the podcast on YouTube: https://bit.ly/KillerInstinctYT Don’t forget to subscribe to the podcast for free wherever you're listening or by using this link: http://bit.ly/KillerInstinctPod If you like the show, telling a friend about it would be helpful! You can text, email, Tweet, or send this link to a friend: http://bit.ly/KillerInstinctPod Follow Savannah on IG: @savannahbrymer Follow Savannah on Twitter: @savannahbrymer Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Terry Thomas was eager to move on with his wife after a long and messy divorce from Cynthia Guy. However, his ex-wife had sinister plans that nearly ended his life. Go to HelloFresh.com/killer60 and use code killer60 for 60% off plus free shipping! Go to VEGAMOUR.com/killer and use code killer to save twenty percent on your first order! If you have any thoughts on this case or any other case, or just want to get in touch with Savannah about the show, email her at [email protected]. Watch the podcast on YouTube: https://bit.ly/KillerInstinctYT Don’t forget to subscribe to the podcast for free wherever you're listening or by using this link: http://bit.ly/KillerInstinctPod If you like the show, telling a friend about it would be helpful! You can text, email, Tweet, or send this link to a friend: http://bit.ly/KillerInstinctPod Follow Savannah on IG: @savannahbrymer Follow Savannah on Twitter: @savannahbrymer Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

If you guys have been following the case of Alex Murdaugh, you know a verdict has been reached. Here is part 2 of the Murdaugh Trial update. We take a close look at the testimonies of those surrounding the case. What do you think about the verdict? Get a 4-week trial, free postage, and a digital scale at https://www.stamps.com/killer . Thanks to Stamps.com for sponsoring the show! See for yourself why Chime is so loved at chime.com/killer. If you have any thoughts on this case or any other case, or just want to get in touch with Savannah about the show, email her at [email protected]. Watch the podcast on YouTube: https://bit.ly/KillerInstinctYT Don’t forget to subscribe to the podcast for free wherever you're listening or by using this link: http://bit.ly/KillerInstinctPod If you like the show, telling a friend about it would be helpful! You can text, email, Tweet, or send this link to a friend: http://bit.ly/KillerInstinctPod Follow Savannah on IG: @savannahbrymer Follow Savannah on Twitter: @savannahbrymer Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

By popular demand; here is an update on the Murdaugh murder case. The Killer Instinct fam might remember the infamous Murdaugh family murders. We covered the original case in Episode 123 (August 2021) and a trial update in Episode 132 (October 2021). This wealthy family in South Carolina has been linked to multiple murders, including the mother and youngest son. This week, Savannah brings you new developments on the cases since the last episode aired. There is so much to cover, this episode is being released in two parts. Stay tuned next week for pt. 2 of this trial update. Get a 4-week trial, free postage, and a digital scale at https://www.stamps.com/killer . Thanks to Stamps.com for sponsoring the show! Stop throwing your money away. Cancel unwanted subscriptions – and manage your expenses the easy way – by going to RocketMoney.com/killer If you have any thoughts on this case or any other case, or just want to get in touch with Savannah about the show, email her at [email protected]. Watch the podcast on YouTube: https://bit.ly/KillerInstinctYT Don’t forget to subscribe to the podcast for free wherever you're listening or by using this link: http://bit.ly/KillerInstinctPod If you like the show, telling a friend about it would be helpful! You can text, email, Tweet, or send this link to a friend: http://bit.ly/KillerInstinctPod Follow Savannah on IG: @savannahbrymer Follow Savannah on Twitter: @savannahbrymer Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Savannah Anderson was found dead in her apartment in 1979. Her body was washed clean, with jewelry in tact, and a sheet gently covering her face. The case went cold for seven years, until a shocking confession revealed a dark sequence of events by a secret admirer. Get a 4-week trial, free postage, and a digital scale at https://www.stamps.com/killer . Thanks to Stamps.com for sponsoring the show! Go to HelloFresh.com/killer65 and use code killer65 for 65% off plus free shipping! Go to DADGRASS.COM/KILLER for 20% off your first order Go to VEGAMOUR.com/killer and use code killer to save twenty percent on your first order! If you have any thoughts on this case or any other case, or just want to get in touch with Savannah about the show, email her at [email protected]. Watch the podcast on YouTube: https://bit.ly/KillerInstinctYT Don’t forget to subscribe to the podcast for free wherever you're listening or by using this link: http://bit.ly/KillerInstinctPod If you like the show, telling a friend about it would be helpful! You can text, email, Tweet, or send this link to a friend: http://bit.ly/KillerInstinctPod Follow Savannah on IG: @savannahbrymer Follow Savannah on Twitter: @savannahbrymer Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

In 2002, college student, Joshua Guimond, left a small party and was never seen again. Bloodhounds and computer tracking have lead to some bizarre discoveries that bring more questions than answers in this unsolved case. Start your credit journey with Chime. Sign up takes only two minutes and doesn’t affect your credit score. Get started at chime.com/killer Listen to STOLEN HEARTS on Apple Podcasts, Amazon Music, or wherever you get your podcasts. If you have any thoughts on this case or any other case, or just want to get in touch with Savannah about the show, email her at [email protected]. Watch the podcast on YouTube: https://bit.ly/KillerInstinctYT Don’t forget to subscribe to the podcast for free wherever you're listening or by using this link: http://bit.ly/KillerInstinctPod If you like the show, telling a friend about it would be helpful! You can text, email, Tweet, or send this link to a friend: http://bit.ly/KillerInstinctPod Follow Savannah on IG: @savannahbrymer Follow Savannah on Twitter: @savannahbrymer Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

This is the one year anniversary of Ashley Wadsworth's untimely passing. She left Canada to live with her boyfriend, Jack in England. Her concerned family was two days away from rescuing her, but couldn't get to her soon enough. Stop throwing your money away. Cancel unwanted subscriptions – and manage your expenses the easy way – by going to RocketMoney.com/killer Just go to Stamps.com, click the microphone at the top of the page, and enter code KILLER. Listen to STOLEN HEARTS on Apple Podcasts, Amazon Music, or wherever you get your podcasts. If you have any thoughts on this case or any other case, or just want to get in touch with Savannah about the show, email her at [email protected]. Watch the podcast on YouTube: https://bit.ly/KillerInstinctYT Don’t forget to subscribe to the podcast for free wherever you're listening or by using this link: http://bit.ly/KillerInstinctPod If you like the show, telling a friend about it would be helpful! You can text, email, Tweet, or send this link to a friend: http://bit.ly/KillerInstinctPod Follow Savannah on IG: @savannahbrymer Follow Savannah on Twitter: @savannahbrymer Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

In late 1968, Barbara Mackle was kidnapped, drugged, buried in a shallow grave, and held for ransom. Her miraculous rescue was credited to the FBI, under the order of then President-elect, Richard Nixon. If you have any thoughts on this case or any other case, or just want to get in touch with Savannah about the show, email her at [email protected]. Watch the podcast on YouTube: https://bit.ly/KillerInstinctYT Don’t forget to subscribe to the podcast for free wherever you're listening or by using this link: http://bit.ly/KillerInstinctPod If you like the show, telling a friend about it would be helpful! You can text, email, Tweet, or send this link to a friend: http://bit.ly/KillerInstinctPod Follow Savannah on IG: @savannahbrymer Follow Savannah on Twitter: @savannahbrymer Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Three separate suitcases were found in the Chesapeake Bay area, all containing dismembered body parts. Authorities were able to identify the body as Bill McGuire. Tracking down his killer uncovered a shocking series of infidelity, addiction, and a secret pregnancy. Try Nom.com/KILLER Go to VEGAMOUR.com/killer and use code killer to save twenty percent on your first order! If you have any thoughts on this case or any other case, or just want to get in touch with Savannah about the show, email her at [email protected]. Watch the podcast on YouTube: https://bit.ly/KillerInstinctYT Don’t forget to subscribe to the podcast for free wherever you're listening or by using this link: http://bit.ly/KillerInstinctPod If you like the show, telling a friend about it would be helpful! You can text, email, Tweet, or send this link to a friend: http://bit.ly/KillerInstinctPod Follow Savannah on IG: @savannahbrymer Follow Savannah on Twitter: @savannahbrymer Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Cindy Borton, a pastor's wife and second mother to many of the kids in her small town, was found dead in her kitchen with a fork in her neck. In a twisted series of events, an unlikely killer finally confessed and was linked to three accounts of arson within the town as well. Start your credit journey with Chime. Sign up takes only two minutes and doesn’t affect your credit score. Get started at chime.com/killer If you have any thoughts on this case or any other case, or just want to get in touch with Savannah about the show, email her at [email protected]. Watch the podcast on YouTube: https://bit.ly/KillerInstinctYT Don’t forget to subscribe to the podcast for free wherever you're listening or by using this link: http://bit.ly/KillerInstinctPod If you like the show, telling a friend about it would be helpful! You can text, email, Tweet, or send this link to a friend: http://bit.ly/KillerInstinctPod Follow Savannah on IG: @savannahbrymer Follow Savannah on Twitter: @savannahbrymer Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Five horrific 9-1-1 calls didn't stop the killer in the green Camaro after kidnapping Denise Amber Lee from her home while she was taking care of her two kids. Did the Charlotte County police drop the ball? Would Denise still be alive today if it weren't for what police called "a missed opportunity"? RocketMoney.com/KILLER Listen to SUSPECT wherever you get your podcasts. Hey Prime Members, you can binge the entire series ad-free on Amazon Music. Download the Amazon Music app today. If you have any thoughts on this case or any other case, or just want to get in touch with Savannah about the show, email her at [email protected]. Watch the podcast on YouTube: https://bit.ly/KillerInstinctYT Don’t forget to subscribe to the podcast for free wherever you're listening or by using this link: http://bit.ly/KillerInstinctPod If you like the show, telling a friend about it would be helpful! You can text, email, Tweet, or send this link to a friend: http://bit.ly/KillerInstinctPod Follow Savannah on IG: @savannahbrymer Follow Savannah on Twitter: @savannahbrymer Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The bodies of two children; Elwyn Crocker Jr. and his sister Mary Crocker were unburied from the backyard after a confession from Elwyn Crocker Sr. The unfolding details are beyond disturbing. This case is currently under investigation RocketMoney.com/KILLER https://www.stamps.com/killer Try Nom.com/KILLER If you have any thoughts on this case or any other case, or just want to get in touch with Savannah about the show, email her at [email protected]. Watch the podcast on YouTube: https://bit.ly/KillerInstinctYT Don’t forget to subscribe to the podcast for free wherever you're listening or by using this link: http://bit.ly/KillerInstinctPod If you like the show, telling a friend about it would be helpful! You can text, email, Tweet, or send this link to a friend: http://bit.ly/KillerInstinctPod Follow Savannah on IG: @savannahbrymer Follow Savannah on Twitter: @savannahbrymer Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

When Billy didn't show up for a deer hunting trip, his family knew something was wrong. After authorities finally found his body, an autopsy concluded Billy was buried alive. Why didn't Billy's on-again, off-again girlfriend, Linda tell anybody that she hadn't seen him in weeks? Go Right Now for 50% off your no-risk two week trial at TryNom.com/KILLER If you have any thoughts on this case or any other case, or just want to get in touch with Savannah about the show, email her at [email protected]. Watch the podcast on YouTube: https://bit.ly/KillerInstinctYT Don’t forget to subscribe to the podcast for free wherever you're listening or by using this link: http://bit.ly/KillerInstinctPod If you like the show, telling a friend about it would be helpful! You can text, email, Tweet, or send this link to a friend: http://bit.ly/KillerInstinctPod Follow Savannah on IG: @savannahbrymer Follow Savannah on Twitter: @savannahbrymer Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

When Nicole (aka Nikki) VanderHeyden's body turned up on the side of the road after a night at the bars, homicide investigations uncovered some dark secrets about Nikki's boyfriend, Doug. But just when authorities thought they had found the killer, DNA evidence pointed this case in an unexpected direction. If you have any thoughts on this case or any other case, or just want to get in touch with Savannah about the show, email her at [email protected]. Watch the podcast on YouTube: https://bit.ly/KillerInstinctYT Don’t forget to subscribe to the podcast for free wherever you're listening or by using this link: http://bit.ly/KillerInstinctPod If you like the show, telling a friend about it would be helpful! You can text, email, Tweet, or send this link to a friend: http://bit.ly/KillerInstinctPod Follow Savannah on IG: @savannahbrymer Follow Savannah on Twitter: @savannahbrymer Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The small town of Savona, NY was rattled when 4 year-old Derrick Robie's body was found less than a block from his house, beaten and sodomized by a stick. A thirteen year-old witness was able to tell police what he saw, which eventually lead to a disturbing confession. Get a 4-week trial, free postage, and a digital scale at https://www.stamps.com/killer. Thanks to Stamps.com for sponsoring the show! Go to RocketMoney.com/killer Join now by following WONDERY-EXHIBIT-C on Facebook or find us on the web at WonderyExhibitC.com and listen to True Crime podcasts on Wondery and Amazon Music. If you have any thoughts on this case or any other case, or just want to get in touch with Savannah about the show, email her at [email protected]. Watch the podcast on YouTube: https://bit.ly/KillerInstinctYT Don’t forget to subscribe to the podcast for free wherever you're listening or by using this link: http://bit.ly/KillerInstinctPod If you like the show, telling a friend about it would be helpful! You can text, email, Tweet, or send this link to a friend: http://bit.ly/KillerInstinctPod Follow Savannah on IG: @savannahbrymer Follow Savannah on Twitter: @savannahbrymer Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

High-school students, Rachael Koloroutis and Tiffany Rowell developed a deep friendship with Christina Paolilla at a time when she needed friends. How could she possibly turn on them alongside her boyfriend, Chris Snyder? Could she possibly evade quadruple homicide and start a new life? Right now, Dad Grass is offering our listeners 20% off your first order when you go to DADGRASS.COM/KILLER Start your credit journey with Chime. Sign up takes only two minutes and doesn’t affect your credit score. Get started at chime.com/killer Go to StoryWorth.com/killer today and save $10 on your first purchase! Check out our new hoodies! If you have any thoughts on this case or any other case, or just want to get in touch with Savannah about the show, email her at [email protected]. Watch the podcast on YouTube: https://bit.ly/KillerInstinctYT Don’t forget to subscribe to the podcast for free wherever you're listening or by using this link: http://bit.ly/KillerInstinctPod If you like the show, telling a friend about it would be helpful! You can text, email, Tweet, or send this link to a friend: http://bit.ly/KillerInstinctPod Follow Savannah on IG: @savannahbrymer Follow Savannah on Twitter: @savannahbrymer Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Looking for a last minute gift? Go to https://establishedtitles.com/KILLER and order a digital title pack certificate to print today! They are running a massive Holiday Sale, plus 10% off on any purchase with code KILLER, Thanks to Established Titles for sponsoring this video! Diane Kyne was murdered in her own home while her husband and son were there, those details are not disputed. What's not clear is which of the 2 men is the witness and which is the murderer? This week, Savannah breaks down the baffling case of a father and son blaming each other for a murder. 2 separate 911 calls, 2 separate stories, but only one true murderer. Check out our new hoodies! If you have any thoughts on this case or any other case, or just want to get in touch with Savannah about the show, email her at [email protected]. Watch the podcast on YouTube: https://bit.ly/KillerInstinctYT Don’t forget to subscribe to the podcast for free wherever you're listening or by using this link: http://bit.ly/KillerInstinctPod If you like the show, telling a friend about it would be helpful! You can text, email, Tweet, or send this link to a friend: http://bit.ly/KillerInstinctPod Follow Savannah on IG: @savannahbrymer Follow Savannah on Twitter: @savannahbrymer Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Taylor Parker has been found guilty of capital murder in the deaths of Reagan Hancock and her unborn baby, Braxlynn Hancock, who was ripped from Reagan's womb. Taylor was just sentenced to death on November 10, 2022. You can go to JULIECARE.CO to learn more or find Julie at your nearest Walmart today Right now, Dad Grass is offering our listeners 20% off your first order when you go to DADGRASS.COM/KILLER Check out our new hoodies! If you have any thoughts on this case or any other case, or just want to get in touch with Savannah about the show, email her at [email protected]. Watch the podcast on YouTube: https://bit.ly/KillerInstinctYT Don’t forget to subscribe to the podcast for free wherever you're listening or by using this link: http://bit.ly/KillerInstinctPod If you like the show, telling a friend about it would be helpful! You can text, email, Tweet, or send this link to a friend: http://bit.ly/KillerInstinctPod Follow Savannah on IG: @savannahbrymer Follow Savannah on Twitter: @savannahbrymer Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Security footage captured the last sighting of 8 year-old Tori Stafford as she was being abducted from school in 2009. While police searched for her, many accused her mother of committing a horrible crime. Her abductors would finally be identified, and convicted for heinous crimes, including the brutal murder of an innocent child. Cancel unnecessary subscriptions with Rocket Money today. Go to RocketMoney.com/killer. Seriously, it could save you HUNDREDS per year. Follow The Vanished on Amazon Music, Apple Podcasts or listen early and ad-free by joining Wondery Plus in Apple Podcasts or the Wondery app. To learn more about microdosing THC go to Microdose.com and use code: KILLER to get free shipping & 30% off your first order. Check out our new hoodies! If you have any thoughts on this case or any other case, or just want to get in touch with Savannah about the show, email her at [email protected]. Watch the podcast on YouTube: https://bit.ly/KillerInstinctYT Don’t forget to subscribe to the podcast for free wherever you're listening or by using this link: http://bit.ly/KillerInstinctPod If you like the show, telling a friend about it would be helpful! You can text, email, Tweet, or send this link to a friend: http://bit.ly/KillerInstinctPod Follow Savannah on IG: @savannahbrymer Follow Savannah on Twitter: @savannahbrymer Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Lindsay Buziak had her whole world ahead of her. She was a young and determined real estate agent. While on the job, her body was found stabbed 40 times in the very house she was hoping to close a 1 million dollar deal. While police have linked the murder back to a burner phone, there is no identity on the other end of the line... Hey Prime Members, listen to the Amazon Music exclusive podcast, SUSPECT: Vanished in the Snow, in the Amazon Music App. Download the app today. Just go to Stamps.com, click the microphone at the top of the page, and enter code KILLER Start your credit journey with Chime. Sign up takes only two minutes and doesn’t affect your credit score. Get started at chime.com/killer. That’s chime.com/killer DADGRASS.COM/KILLER Check out our new hoodies! If you have any thoughts on this case or any other case, or just want to get in touch with Savannah about the show, email her at [email protected]. Watch the podcast on YouTube: https://bit.ly/KillerInstinctYT Don’t forget to subscribe to the podcast for free wherever you're listening or by using this link: http://bit.ly/KillerInstinctPod If you like the show, telling a friend about it would be helpful! You can text, email, Tweet, or send this link to a friend: http://bit.ly/KillerInstinctPod Follow Savannah on IG: @savannahbrymer Follow Savannah on Twitter: @savannahbrymer Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

David Carter was an upstanding and charming man whom everyone seemed to like...but his girlfriend, Tammy, was obsessed with him. Days after David went missing, his body parts started showing up throughout Ohio. His girlfriend fled the state and is still a runaway fugitive, assumed to be armed and dangerous. Hey Prime Members, listen to the Amazon Music exclusive podcast, SUSPECT: Vanished in the Snow, in the Amazon Music App. Download the app today. JULIECARE.CO David and DJ's clothing company, Lavish Habits: https://lhuclothing.com/ If you know any further information about the wanted suspect, you can contact US Marshal's line : 1-877-WANTED-2 My new podcast My Thoughts Exactly premieres November 9th! Check out our new hoodies! If you have any thoughts on this case or any other case, or just want to get in touch with Savannah about the show, email her at [email protected]. Watch the podcast on YouTube: https://bit.ly/KillerInstinctYT Don’t forget to subscribe to the podcast for free wherever you're listening or by using this link: http://bit.ly/KillerInstinctPod If you like the show, telling a friend about it would be helpful! You can text, email, Tweet, or send this link to a friend: http://bit.ly/KillerInstinctPod Follow Savannah on IG: @savannahbrymer Follow Savannah on Twitter: @savannahbrymer Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Teenager, Devon Liske returned to his family home on Halloween to an unsuspected eerie silence. His family could no longer cry for help as they lie in their beds soaking in their own blood. The killer, whom the family knew all too well, blamed "satan" for the brutal murders committed that Halloween. Use code SB25 to get 25% off your first Bellway order at https://bit.ly/3AqiCk9 My new podcast My Thoughts Exactly premieres November 9th! Check out our new hoodies! If you have any thoughts on this case or any other case, or just want to get in touch with Savannah about the show, email her at [email protected]. Watch the podcast on YouTube: https://bit.ly/KillerInstinctYT Don’t forget to subscribe to the podcast for free wherever you're listening or by using this link: http://bit.ly/KillerInstinctPod If you like the show, telling a friend about it would be helpful! You can text, email, Tweet, or send this link to a friend: http://bit.ly/KillerInstinctPod Follow Savannah on IG: @savannahbrymer Follow Savannah on Twitter: @savannahbrymer Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

When Rebekah Gay disappeared Halloween night, her ex-convict pastor, John White, urged the community to pray for her return. Their prayers were answered when police were lead to her corpse by the murder confession of the pastor she trusted, who had a thirst for blood and a fantasy to assault her corpse. Get a FREE personalized quote at ethoslife.com/KILLER My new podcast My Thoughts Exactly premieres November 9th! Check out our new hoodies! If you have any thoughts on this case or any other case, or just want to get in touch with Savannah about the show, email her at [email protected]. Watch the podcast on YouTube: https://bit.ly/KillerInstinctYT Don’t forget to subscribe to the podcast for free wherever you're listening or by using this link: http://bit.ly/KillerInstinctPod If you like the show, telling a friend about it would be helpful! You can text, email, Tweet, or send this link to a friend: http://bit.ly/KillerInstinctPod Follow Savannah on IG: @savannahbrymer Follow Savannah on Twitter: @savannahbrymer Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The last time anybody saw Cindy Song was Halloween night when she went dancing with some friends. The search for Cindy lead to some shocking revelations, and even more questions about her disappearance. My new podcast, My Thoughts Exactly premieres November 9th! Check out our new hoodies! If you have any thoughts on this case or any other case, or just want to get in touch with Savannah about the show, email her at [email protected]. Watch the podcast on YouTube: https://bit.ly/KillerInstinctYT Don’t forget to subscribe to the podcast for free wherever you're listening or by using this link: http://bit.ly/KillerInstinctPod If you like the show, telling a friend about it would be helpful! You can text, email, Tweet, or send this link to a friend: http://bit.ly/KillerInstinctPod Follow Savannah on IG: @savannahbrymer Follow Savannah on Twitter: @savannahbrymer Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

9 year-old Lisa Ann French went Trick-or-Treating by herself in her neighborhood on Halloween 1973. Her last stop would be at her friendly neighbor, Gerald Tuner's home. After luring Lisa Ann in to his bedroom, Gerald assaulted and murdered the innocent child, and nearly got away with it. My new podcast, My Thoughts Exactly premieres November 9th! Check out our new hoodies! If you have any thoughts on this case or any other case, or just want to get in touch with Savannah about the show, email her at [email protected]. Watch the podcast on YouTube: https://bit.ly/KillerInstinctYT Don’t forget to subscribe to the podcast for free wherever you're listening or by using this link: http://bit.ly/KillerInstinctPod If you like the show, telling a friend about it would be helpful! You can text, email, Tweet, or send this link to a friend: http://bit.ly/KillerInstinctPod Follow Savannah on IG: @savannahbrymer Follow Savannah on Twitter: @savannahbrymer Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Michael Dennis blamed his ex-wife, Doreen Erbert for the tragic and sudden death of their son, Paul, who accidentally drowned in their family swimming pool. Although both of them deeply mourned the loss of their child, Doreen attempted to move on, and began a family with her new husband, Charles. But on Halloween night in 1984, a man in a wolf mask armed with a machete put an end to any hope Doreen still carried. Get a FREE personalized quote at ethoslife.com/KILLER My new podcast, My Thoughts Exactly premiers Nov. 9th! Check out our new hoodies! If you have any thoughts on this case or any other case, or just want to get in touch with Savannah about the show, email her at [email protected]. Watch the podcast on YouTube: https://bit.ly/KillerInstinctYT Don’t forget to subscribe to the podcast for free wherever you're listening or by using this link: http://bit.ly/KillerInstinctPod If you like the show, telling a friend about it would be helpful! You can text, email, Tweet, or send this link to a friend: http://bit.ly/KillerInstinctPod Follow Savannah on IG: @savannahbrymer Follow Savannah on Twitter: @savannahbrymer Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hadden Clark is currently in prison for two proven murders and claims he, or more accurately, his alter ego has killed more. As if cross-dressing and cannibalizing weren't enough to make Hadden's murders infamous, it turns out he is not the only killer in his immediate family. Thanks to our sponsors! You can go to JULIECARE.CO to learn more or find Julie at your nearest Walmart today. Go to Rocket Money.com/killer https://huntakiller.com/killerinstinct CODE Killer for $10 off your purchase! Check out our new hoodies! If you have any thoughts on this case or any other case, or just want to get in touch with Savannah about the show, email her at [email protected]. Watch the podcast on YouTube: https://bit.ly/KillerInstinctYT Don’t forget to subscribe to the podcast for free wherever you're listening or by using this link: http://bit.ly/KillerInstinctPod If you like the show, telling a friend about it would be helpful! You can text, email, Tweet, or send this link to a friend: http://bit.ly/KillerInstinctPod Follow Savannah on IG: @savannahbrymer Follow Savannah on Twitter: @savannahbrymer Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Joseph Oberhansley served only 12 years in prison for murdering his girlfriend before being released on "good behavior". His second chance as a free man would lead him to his next victim, whose story ends with Joseph brutally murdering and cannibalizing her corpse. Go to EthosLife.com/KILLER to get your FREE life insurance quote today Go to Stamps.com, click the microphone at the top of the page, and enter code KILLER. This podcast is sponsored by Better Help. Visit BetterHelp.com/instinct today to get 10% off your first month. Get started at chime.com/killer Check out our new hoodies! If you have any thoughts on this case or any other case, or just want to get in touch with Savannah about the show, email her at [email protected]. Watch the podcast on YouTube: https://bit.ly/KillerInstinctYT Don’t forget to subscribe to the podcast for free wherever you're listening or by using this link: http://bit.ly/KillerInstinctPod If you like the show, telling a friend about it would be helpful! You can text, email, Tweet, or send this link to a friend: http://bit.ly/KillerInstinctPod Follow Savannah on IG: @savannahbrymer Follow Savannah on Twitter: @savannahbrymer Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Manfred and Marisia Von Richthofen were loving parents that wanted the best for their children. Worried about the path their daughter, Suzanne, was headed down, they made an ultimatum with her that would ultimately lead to their brutal murder. Get a 4-week trial, free postage, and a digital scale at https://www.stamps.com/KILLER. Thanks to Stamps.com for sponsoring the show! Use code SB25 to get 25% off your first order at Bellway https://bit.ly/3AqiCk9 Check out our new hoodies! If you have any thoughts on this case or any other case, or just want to get in touch with Savannah about the show, email her at [email protected]. Watch the podcast on YouTube: https://bit.ly/KillerInstinctYT Don’t forget to subscribe to the podcast for free wherever you're listening or by using this link: http://bit.ly/KillerInstinctPod If you like the show, telling a friend about it would be helpful! You can text, email, Tweet, or send this link to a friend: http://bit.ly/KillerInstinctPod Follow Savannah on IG: @savannahbrymer Follow Savannah on Twitter: @savannahbrymer Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Daniel Robinson disappeared one day in to the hot Arizona dessert. His truck was found, but no trace of his remains were ever discovered. What happened to Daniel? Could his disappearance have something to do with the woman he met just days prior to his disappearance? Thanks to our sponsors! ETHOS LIFE: Get a FREE personalized quote at ethoslife.com/KILLER This Podcast is sponsored by Better Help : Visit BetterHelp.com/instinct today to get 10% off your first month. Check out our new hoodies! If you have any thoughts on this case or any other case, or just want to get in touch with Savannah about the show, email her at [email protected]. Watch the podcast on YouTube: https://bit.ly/KillerInstinctYT Don’t forget to subscribe to the podcast for free wherever you're listening or by using this link: http://bit.ly/KillerInstinctPod If you like the show, telling a friend about it would be helpful! You can text, email, Tweet, or send this link to a friend: http://bit.ly/KillerInstinctPod Follow Savannah on IG: @savannahbrymer Follow Savannah on Twitter: @savannahbrymer Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Heather Elvis was forced to end her affair with a married man 17 years older than her when his wife found out. The angry love triangle escalated until the sudden disappearance of Heather when her car was found abandoned. The mystery surrounding her disappearance has more questions than answers to this day. Thanks to our sponsors! ETHOS LIFE: Get a FREE personalized quote at ethoslife.com/KILLER HUNT A KILLER : https://huntakiller.com/killerinstinct Use code KILLER for $10 off your purchase! Rocket Money : Go to RocketMoney.com/killer Check out our new hoodies! If you have any thoughts on this case or any other case, or just want to get in touch with Savannah about the show, email her at [email protected]. Watch the podcast on YouTube: https://bit.ly/KillerInstinctYT Don’t forget to subscribe to the podcast for free wherever you're listening or by using this link: http://bit.ly/KillerInstinctPod If you like the show, telling a friend about it would be helpful! You can text, email, Tweet, or send this link to a friend: http://bit.ly/KillerInstinctPod Follow Savannah on IG: @savannahbrymer Follow Savannah on Twitter: @savannahbrymer Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices