Kelly Corrigan Wonders

TAKE 2 TUESDAY: Re-play of Episode #1 // Kelly and Kate Bowler dive into that phrase so often offered up to explain bad stuff: "everything happens for a reason." Kate is a divinity professor at Duke University and the bestselling author of three books. She has a beloved podcast called Everything Happens. At a time when so much feels unexplainable, Kate and Kelly wonder if this phrase offers actual comfort or does just the opposite. In this poignant and, strangely, also often hilarious, conversation, Kelly and Kate discuss the difference between finding meaning and making meaning, a life skill we'd all be well served to develop. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Imbolo Mbue's journey took her from Cameroon to New Jersey, and ultimately to Oprah's house. The bestselling author of Behold the Dreamers and How Beautiful We Were describes the very best of America with charm and realism -- from being warmly welcomed as a college student and observing true freedom for the first time to witnessing crippling poverty and our "race to nowhere" mentality. Please subscribe, rate and review us wherever you listen to podcasts! We read and appreciate every review. You can follow the conversation with Kelly on Instagram @kellycorrigan. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Kelly shares a graduation speech, a conversation about takeaways from high school with her daughter and a special reading with Oscar winning actress Helen Hunt. If you love the episode, please share and review. We read and appreciate every comment. You can follow the conversation with Kelly on Instagram @kellycorrigan. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

How do understanding and approval factor into kindness? Are we only nice to the people we "get"? How can we change the way we think about who is deserving of love, respect and kindness? (hint: it's everyone). Carvell Wallace has thoughts on all of this and more. He's a writer, a thinker and a creative who has written powerful profiles of artists, actors, activists and is also the curious mind behind the podcast Finding Fred, about Mr. Rogers. If you enjoy this conversation, make sure to check out Episode #4: Trust your Gut? with Annie Jean Baptiste. Please subscribe, rate and review us wherever you listen to podcasts! We read and appreciate every review. You can follow the conversation with Kelly on Instagram @kellycorrigan. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Austin Channing Brown is an author, activist and thought leader. She's tired of explaining what it's like to be black, but her insight and passion is irresistible. Here's a conversation that will linger in your mind as much for the points of connection as for the points of tension. For everyone committed to learning and understanding more about race, this is an episode to share and discuss. Please subscribe, rate and review us wherever you listen to podcasts! We read and appreciate every review. You can follow the conversation with Kelly on Instagram @kellycorrigan. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

67 million of us are estranged from a family member. 85% of us are in regular conflict at work. The country is split on every issue from masks to education, health care to policing. Kelly asks journalist and bestselling author of High Conflict, Amanda Ripley where we go from here. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Karen Moon is a therapist who cut her teeth counseling bankers after tragedies like the Oklahoma City bombing and 9/11. For 15 years she's been helping high school and college kids with anxiety, depression and change. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Kelly and Jen Hatmaker test drive the questions from Kelly's new children's book Hello World! to see what new things they can learn about each other. From celebrating favorite holidays to bouncing back from unexpected change and loss, these two old friends cover much ground and show us all how to find meaningful connection with the people we love -- and maybe even with those we don't yet know we love. If you enjoy this episode, make sure to listen to Episode #24, Kelly's conversation with Anna Quindlen and Anna Sale about misunderstandings in Family life. Please subscribe, rate and review us wherever you listen to podcasts! We read and appreciate every review. You can follow the conversation with Kelly on Instagram @kellycorrigan. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

In honor of teachers everywhere, Kelly shares a conversation with her friend, Oakland Unified Teacher of the year, Tontra Love. While Ms. Love normally teaches kindergartners, it turns out she has lots to teach all of us -- especially about how to interact more lovingly with one another, disagree peacefully and imagine what it's like to be in someone else's shoes. If you enjoy this episode, make sure to listen to Kelly's conversation about higher education, Episode #21 "What's the point of college?" Please subscribe, rate and review us wherever you listen to podcasts! We read and appreciate every review. You can follow the conversation with Kelly on Instagram @kellycorrigan. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Kelly tracks down Yale Philosophy professor and the Dean of Arts & Sciences, Tamar Gendler, to discuss the great ancient philosophers’ take on our human nature and how it relates to modern happiness. Dean Gendler's studied academic and historical perspective on what makes us tick will definitely leave you feeling smarter, deeper and full of understanding about yourself and your fellow humans. If you enjoy this episode, make sure to check out Kelly’s other conversations about human nature with writers George Saunders, Margaret Atwood, Jia Tolentino and Brit Bennett. Please subscribe, rate and review us wherever you listen to podcasts! We read and appreciate every review. You can follow the conversation with Kelly on Instagram @kellycorrigan. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

This week, Kelly continues her series with authors on human nature with Brit Bennett, the brilliant mind behind the bestselling book, The Vanishing Half, which just sold to HBO for the small screen. They cover the unfortunate way we're all categorized for marketing purposes, and why curiosity is paramount to us becoming a better species. Please subscribe, rate and review us wherever you listen to podcasts! We read and appreciate every review. You can follow the conversation with Kelly on Instagram @kellycorrigan. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Kelly talks with New Yorker staff writer Jia Tolentino about identity, culture and the irresistable manipulation of the internet. Jia is a 32-year old intellectual phenom who just came out with her first book of essays called Trick Mirror. She's part feminist, part radical thinker and part cultural critic, and she has a lot to say about what it means to be human in today's world. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Alongside renowned Canadian poet, novelist and activist Margaret Atwood, Kelly continues a series on Human Nature. They discuss why life together is sometimes very hard and other times truly delightful, through the lense of the very best and worst parts of our nature. Please subscribe, rate and review us wherever you listen to podcasts! We read and appreciate every review. You can follow the conversation with Kelly on Instagram @kellycorrigan. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Kelly kicks off a series on Human Nature with celebrated author George Saunders. They go deep on virtue, vice, our tricky egos, and finding empathy for ourselves and others. Please subscribe, rate and review us wherever you listen to podcasts! We read and appreciate every review. You can follow the conversation with Kelly on Instagram @kellycorrigan. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Kelly concludes her series with Anna Quindlen and Anna Sale by diving into the joy of the "work" we're paid for (and how it can give us permission to be bolder than we've been conditioned to be) and the challenge of the "work" of family life, when we're reconciling differences over money and oversimplifying things with snap judgments. Please subscribe, rate and review us wherever you listen to podcasts! We read and appreciate every review. You can follow the conversation with Kelly on Instagram @kellycorrigan. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Grudges, overbearing "wisdom" and selfish behavior are all hallmarks of even the most functional families. Kelly asks Pulitzer Prize winner Anna Quindlen and award-winning podcaster Anna Sale about mistakes they've made in family life, and how they've found and given forgiveness. If you like this conversation, make sure to listen to Episode #8: "Three Stories of Extraordinary Forgiveness with Wanda Holland Greene." And please subscribe, rate and review us wherever you listen to podcasts! We read and appreciate every review. You can follow the conversation with Kelly on Instagram @kellycorrigan. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Eventually grief, which is searing, becomes loss, which is more like an ache that comes and goes. Kelly asks Pulitzer Prize winner Anna Quindlen and award winning podcaster Anna Sale about what and how they have grieved. Together, they share passages and riff about how to find meaning in loss. If you found this episode useful, make sure to listen to Kelly's conversation with palliative care doc BJ Miller, episode #11, "Losing the Ones We Love." And please subscribe, rate and review us wherever you listen to podcasts! We read and appreciate every review. You can follow the conversation with Kelly on Instagram @kellycorrigan. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Kelly continues her deep dive on family life with the help of Anna Quindlen, the Pulitzer Prize winning writer, and Anna Sale, the host of Death, Sex & Money and author of Let's Talk About Hard Things. Together, they read from their own works and riff on how family dynamics shift and change over time as kids become parents, parents become grandparents and everyone (hopefully) grows up. From parsing delicate in-law dynamics to learning what it takes to actually like your spouse to understanding our own motives as we make close calls, Kelly and The Annas break it down. If this episode was useful to you, you’ll probably really like Kelly's conversation with Annie Jean Baptiste that questions how much we can really trust our gut. And please subscribe, rate and review us wherever you listen to podcasts! We read every review. You can follow the conversation with Kelly on Instagram @kellycorrigan. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

This month, Kelly finds herself between two Annas -- Anna Quindlen, the Pulitzer Prize winning writer, and Anna Sale, the host of WNYC's popular Death, Sex & Money podcast. Together, they read excerpts from their books and riff on how terribly easy it is to misunderstand each other in family life. From thinking you’re not "a divorce kinda person" to overestimating our influence as parents, love is rife with misunderstandings. Here’s a conversation that will help you find your way out of what tangle you might be in at the moment. If this episode was useful to you, you’ll probably really like Kelly's conversation with Wanda Holland Greene on Finding Agency. And please subscribe, rate and review us wherever you listen to podcasts! We read and appreciate every review. You can follow the conversation with Kelly on Instagram @kellycorrigan. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Kelly couldn't help but notice that many of our conversations about how change happens offered up some of the exact same beats, despite the wide variety of changes we discussed. Jump into this conversation and take notes you'll want to post on your refrigerator. Follow the conversation on Instagram @kellycorrigan. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

With nearly unlimited financial and intellectual resources at her disposal, Melinda Gates is committed to addressing the problems holding women back all over the world - from their limited educational opportunities to maternal health challenges and more. Kelly and Melinda dissect how making critical systemic improvements for women will change not only their lives and their families, but has the best potential to change the world. Follow the conversation on Instagram @kellycorrigan. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Kelly talks with a range of guests in this episode about the changing face of higher education, the value of a cross-disciplinary liberal arts approach and the danger of a one-size-fits-all college experience. Kelly's guests include: her daughter, Georgia Lichty - a sophomore at Georgetown University, Tara Westover - the author of Educated, Lande Ajose - the senior policy advisor for education for the state of California, and Jeremy Rossmann - MIT dropout and founder of The Make School. Follow the conversation on Instagram @kellycorrigan. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Very few of us gaze contentedly into the mirror and are happy with our bodies. In this episode, Kelly dives into the dangers of our obsession with body image in a candid conversation with therapist Ariel and her client Lindsay about eating disorders, triggers and recovery. A must listen. IMPORTANT NOTE: This episode does include references to eating disorders which some listeners may find troubling. Listener discretion is advised. Follow the conversation on Instagram @kellycorrigan. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

From San Quentin inmate to neighborhood safety advocate, Kelly’s guest Sam Vaughn embodies the ideal of “be the change you want to see.” Working with DeVone Boggan, Kelly’s other guest and the charismatic leader of Advance Peace, this duo shares how they nurture violent criminals into a better future, one small step at a time, with the care and attention of a devoted parent. Follow the conversation on Instagram @kellycorrigan. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Kelly talks to Alex, an insightful and forthcoming 15 year old who is transitioning from a girl to a boy, as well as his mother about how you know you have to change and the series of decisions, losses and gains found along the way. Follow the conversation on Instagram @kellycorrigan. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Both Congresswoman Barbara Lee and human rights attorney Jessica Jackson went through college as single mothers, relying on some form of public assistance. They've since gone on to make big changes in our country, from both inside and outside of government. Kelly talks to each of them to get a big old reminder about the power of our democracy and the promise of liberty and justice for all. Follow the conversation on Instagram @kellycorrigan. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

When you are a woman who is dead sure she wants to be a mother and the universe is not cooperating, how can you bend reality to your dreams? Lori Gottlieb (author of Maybe You Should Talk to Someone) and Kelly's friend Tracy Defina reflect on finding their way into the job they always wanted: parenthood. Follow the conversation on Instagram @kellycorrigan. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

What to make of 2020? How to process the election and the pandemic, drastic changes in the the economy and the environment? Yeesh. Kelly combed through everything she's written down in 2020 and found ten things worth a second look--and maybe even worth celebrating. Follow the conversation on Instagram @kellycorrigan. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Kelly's mom spends part of every day in a Catholic Church, as did her father his entire life. Kelly is wondering how a spiritual orientation changes a person in this conversation with scholar Eboo Patel. They cover how faith has evolved in the lives of everyday Americans, and how thinking of us as a "potluck nation" rather than a melting pot might help us to make better sense of our differences. Follow the conversation on Instagram @kellycorrigan. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Climate Scientist and TED Talker Katharine Hayhoe is equally interested in the obvious ecological collapse as she is in how to talk so people will listen. She and Kelly break down the moves and messages that do and don't work when trying to change global attitudes and save our planet. Kelly's 17 year-old Claire jumps in to talk about the power of Planet Earth and protests and stories of extinction. Follow the conversation on Instagram @kellycorrigan. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Love, Loss and Remembering - A special episode in memory of Liz Laats. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

In the wake of losing her father and her friend, Kelly wonders what the end of life can teach us with BJ Miller, a triple amputee, bestselling author and palliative care doc. BJ offers his own personal stories as well as universal takeaways from the bedsides of hundreds whom he has helped usher out of this world. Follow the conversation on Instagram @kellycorrigan. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Starting in college and not stopping until long after law school, Rich Roll regularly, deliberately, got black out drunk. He is now a widely respected wellness advocate and athlete. He and Kelly talk about the long road of tiny adjustments that have led to his transformation into an ultra marathoner, bestselling author and podcaster whose conversations are valued by millions. Follow the conversation on Instagram @kellycorrigan. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

On the heels of the series with Wanda Holland Greene about forgiveness, agency, self awareness and finding common ground, Kelly takes a list of lingering questions to world class psychologist, Dacher Keltner at UC Berkeley, and asks him everything she ever wanted to know about why we do the weird things we do. And the answers are fantastic. Follow the conversation on Instagram @kellycorrigan. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Forgiveness may be the most advanced intellectual and emotional move we make as humans. It is a complete override of our innate nature to categorize friend and foe. Along with thought leader Wanda Holland Greene, Kelly brings to life three unforgettable stories of forgiveness from around the world. Follow the conversation on Instagram @kellycorrigan. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Self awareness involves understanding how our behavior affects others. It is fundamental for any functioning society and relationship. Wanda Holland Greene and Kelly talk about body language, tone of voice, word choice, the terrible tendency to let ourselves off the hook and learning to listen to people who give us the straight truth. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Thanks to an election where many states came down to razor thin margins, we may have a renewed sense of our agency as voters. But what about agency over our emotions, our bodies, our relationships and careers? Educator and thought leader, Wanda Holland Greene, brings everything she's learned from her time at Columbia to her years leading The Hamlin School as she and Kelly work through what acts of agency are always available to us. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Renowned educator Wanda Holland Greene joins Kelly to dig into finding common ground with absolutely anyone, even people we think we hate. They discuss the transformative power of discovering the many things we all share. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Annie Jean Baptiste in the Head of Product Inclusion at Google where she spends her time thinking about the products we use very day and how who's at the meeting determines what gets discussed, designed and built. Annie and Kelly wonder about confirmation bias, who we're drawn to, both at work and in our personal lives, and how our lizard brain keeps luring us into fight or flight responses that limit our growth and potential. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Dani Shapiro is the author of 9 books and the host of Family Secrets. She is curious about the things we hide from each other and the consequences of keeping secrets. Dani and Kelly consider the courage to know more about our DNA, our government and what's in our kids' texts, our air and our food. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Nadia Bolz Weber is known for calling a spade a spade in three bestselling memoirs and on her podcast, The Confessional. She is stand up comic turned Lutheran minister who refuses to oversimplify, engage in cheap positivity or humlebrag. Nadia and Kelly wonder together about the things we do in the name of consistency and how to make the call about what to let go of and what to never give up on. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Kelly and Kate Bowler dive into that phrase so often offered up to explain bad stuff: "everything happens for a reason." Kate is a divinity professor at Duke University and the bestselling author of three books. She has a beloved podcast called Everything Happens. At a time when so much feels unexplainable, Kate and Kelly wonder if this phrase offers actual comfort or does just the opposite. In this poignant and, strangely, also often hilarious, conversation, Kelly and Kate discuss the difference between finding meaning and making meaning, a life skill we'd all be well served to develop. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Welcome to Kelly Corrigan Wonders, a place for people who like to laugh while they think and find it useful to look closely at ourselves and our weird ways in the hopes that knowing more and feeling more will help us do more and be better. A former newspaper columnist and four time bestselling author, Kelly wonders about loads of stuff: is knowing more always good? Can we trust our gut? How does change actually happen? We only book nice people who have a sense of humor and know things worth knowing. Each episode ends with Kelly’s shortlist of takeaways, appropriate for refrigerator doors, bulletin boards and notes to your children. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices