Kelly Corrigan Wonders

In my experience over these 20 years, the thing about motherhood that makes me batty is trying to gauge whether I’m overreacting or under reacting. What if I let up at the wrong time? What if I go to the mat over something that just doesn’t matter? This one is for everyone who wrestles similarly and is recorded with love and a ton of respect for my mom, a true wonder named Mary Corrigan. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Dropping kids off at kindergarten, summer camp, the prom, college, their first apartment…how do we do transitions well? It’s that time of year: capsand gowns are being ordered, fields of chairs are being set out for graduations. Kelly has a tangled pile of questions about each sending off moment for her friend Ariel who is also Dr. Trost, invaluable psychologist. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Kelly B. pays tribute to her mom who created cozy quilts and knit caps, cut peonies from her garden and shared her passion for color and beauty all while working hard, guiding her kids and showering them with love. This single mom juggled it all and made a beautiful life for her daughters and her grandchildren. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

It’s my anniversary. This one’s a look back at a weird moment in our early days and why it’s so hard and also so glorious to be in the same mood at the same time. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Judd Apatow is curious, unassuming and forthcoming in this conversation with Kelly about his mom, his daughters, the business that needs improving and the work he loves. Filmed for Kelly’s PBS show Tell Me More in Los Angeles in celebration of Judd’s new film, The Bubble. After talking to Judd, Kelly sat down with Columbia’s George Bonanno to talk about a key part of Judd’s history and how it relates to George’s work on resilience. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

As snow falls on the Eastern Shore of Maryland, Stacey remembers her hard-working and loving father Frank. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

I am learning to stay open to unconventional paths and I like it. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

If you haven’t heard of Father Greg Boyle, let us introduce you: a Jesuit priest who has a touch of Santa Claus in his affect, Greg Boyle has collaborated with thousands of former gang members to build thriving businesses and communities of radical acceptance in East LA. He is a man who is sure that love is the answer to every question and has lived a life that offers him daily proof. Following my conversation with Father Boyle, I sat down with a researcher and social scientist named Christian Miller, a philosophy professor from Wake Forest, to talk about his work around ethics and character. Please enjoy this very special conversation. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Jody honors her dad Bob, who loved his roles as a pilot, father and grandfather. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

What friendship takes and what friendship gives. One to share with your BFFs. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Estimates are that about every 15 minutes we make a decision and that decision often involves a choice of who to put first, ourselves or someone else. The culture and business of self is thriving. Richard Lui is a news anchor whose life has asked him to repeatedly consider the ping ponging we all do between acts of selfishness and acts of selflessness. Eight years ago, he started flying cross-country weekly to take care of his father who had Alzheimer's and if you ask him, caring for them is both a harrowing duty and a privilege with many benefits. After talking to Richard, Kelly did a deep dive into what we know about trauma and grief with research, author and Columbia professor George Bonanno. This conversation is for anyone and everyone who is caring for another person. Please share. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

It was John' McNulty’s wish to be eulogized by all four of his adult children (Christine, David, Laura and Daniel). So, they wrote this warm, loving, funny tribute together, broke it into sections and each one delivered a portion of it at his mass. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

With our hearts in Ukraine, here’s a story to love about a group of caring people in San Francisco in a time of uncertainty who showed the world how to lean in. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Anna Deavere Smith (from broadway as well as Nurse Jackie, West Wing and Inventing Anna) is a deep thinker with an easy laugh—pretty much my favorite combination. She felt like an old friend from minute one. This heart to heart from the set of my PBS show, Tell Me More was followed by a conversation with Princeton professor Andrew Chignell who studies, among other things, hope and optimism, something Anna had a lot to say about. This is what we think of as a perfect Kelly Corrigan Wonders episode—a lot of feeling, a lot of thinking. Enjoy and share. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Meghan’s loving eulogy for her baby girl Maggie. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The story of how a TV show began…for anyone who is trying to do something hard. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Kelly and Jen swap stories of the men in their lives who make them feel sane and loved, including co-workers, cousins, uncles, brothers and old high school buddies. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Steph's Husband To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

A quick thought on what intentional relationships actually look and sound like. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Convictions about what parenting moves work and which are pure disaster…decisions about where and when to donate to what…beliefs about shared humanity and common ground. This is a far ranging conversation with Jen Hatmaker that lifts us out of the headlines and into something more pervasive and timeless. If you are starving for more thoughts on how people come to see each other more fully, the follow on listen is here with Wanda Holland Greene. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Jody's Mom To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The data are in: we are not good at predicting what will make us happy. This is known and documented. So as we watch another class of kids lose their minds waiting to hear from colleges, let us remind each other that getting exactly what we want may or may not be exactly what we need. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Comparing notes and readings on friendships with writer and activist Jen Hatmaker. Let this be your reminder that talking about money, sex, health and our embarrassing needs might save us all. Made to be shared with your inner circle, as a message of gratitude and commitment. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Lisa’s cousin. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

A takeaway from two articles I read this week that reminded me that it is not insane to believe we might find news ways to relate, co-exist, be… To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Reflecting on the persistence and challenge of change as a way of life and a few deep dives into very specific changes with writer, activist and community leader Jen Hatmaker. If you enjoyed listening to my conversation this week with Jen Hatmaker and you haven’t already listened to the episode we did together in May of 2021, please check it out - it’s been one of the most listened to pods we’ve ever done and I think you’ll really enjoy it. It’s Episode #35 of Kelly Corrigan Wonders. You may also enjoy the series we did in 2021 called How Change Happens. It’s a special 10 part series l of frank conversations about suffering, compassion, willpower and tough love. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Sheri honors her vibrant co-worker and dear friend Marque. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

As another spring season of sports kicks in, here are some thoughts about what we can make of this time together on fields and courts and baseball diamonds. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Talking Heads. American Utopia. Singular creative David Byrne talks with Kelly about how he stays just cheerful enough to keep making art in a world of chaos. Then, Kelly sits with Judy Woodruff on the set of PBS NewsHour to talk about holding on to the positive on even the very hardest days and how she processes the news as both an American, a special needs mom and a media professional. To watch the full Tell Me More with Kelly Corrigan series, go to PBS.org/kelly. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Shawn remembers her father Dave and why being stubborn isn't such a bad thing. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

When I was in high school, I found a pile of old letters that my dad had written to my mom when she was just a girl from Baltimore. I revisit them here in memory of my dad on the day he died. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Scott Galloway repeatedly asks us to square our worship of technology and innovators with what we know is and is not good for us and society. He wants us to face the slow but certain damage we allow corporations to inflict, every day, on our kids and ourselves. Standing on a firm foundation of facts and insight, he asks the hardest and most consequential questions of our time. Dolores Huerta worked side by side with Cesar Chavez for decades. She stood next to Robert Kennedy the night he was shot. She convinced 18 million people to boycott grapes. These back to back conversations, recorded on the set of Kelly’s PBS show, Tell Me More, are part wake up call and part roadmap. To watch all episodes of Tell Me More, go to pbs.org/kelly. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

19 year-old Harry lovingly remembers his younger brother Charlie. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Dipping back into some early GOTOs, here’s a second run of an idea that bears repeating: kids remember when we follow their lead. It feels like love because it is. *Includes a reading about my dad, forever a fan by nature, who used to watch me practice diving long after the rest of the world went home for dinner. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Today I’m talking with big wave surfer Bianca Valenti and big time philanthropist Melinda French Gates. Whether it’s facing down a 50-foot wave or world-wide criticism over choices made, they’ll explain why it’s been so worth it to push beyond any fear or discomfort. They’ll also tell you that if you’re tracking culture and equity here in the United States or abroad, there is real progress to celebrate, progress that might help us stay the course and finish the work of making a world that is fair for girls and women. To watch the full Tell Me More with Kelly Corrigan series on PBS, visit pbs.org/kelly. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

This is the first episode of our new series Thanks For Being Here. It will be a very short pod that comes out every Sunday morning as Sundays are, for a lot of people, a time of reflection, a time to let go of the day to day and to touch base with what matters, what will matter and what will have mattered. The answer to that question for me is often found in ceremonies. I could literally watch strangers get married once a week, and I'm even more effected by funerals, sitting in a service, taking in the story of one life, just another ordinary person who they loved, who loved them. I feel a clarity and direction that I often can't find in the daily push and pull and eulogies in particular are about the most succinct source of direction I can think of. So, I asked readers and listeners who have lost someone to share their eulogies and every week I'll read one here so that we don't forget, there is a point to the pain, that we have much to offer, that we affect each other and that ordinary lives are really kind of exquisite when you look at them closely. This first episode features a eulogy beautifully written by my editor at Random House, Andy Ward, to honor his father. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Thanks to a PhD I used to talk to quite a bit when our kids were in school together, I got a shape up on the ways I think and talk about whose good at what and why. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

People say “Stay in your lane” but I don’t buy it. I like people who care about a lot of things, not just winning another NBA championship (I see you Steve Kerr, eyeing #9) or making another world class docu-series (I see you W Kamau Bell, with your devastating Cosby series). I like people who dare to say unpopular things into microphones because they have a platform and they feel compelled to use it. This is an episode with two of my favorite people — Warriors coach Steve Kerr and comedian, producer and director W. Kamau Bell — talking about what they do beyond what they do, if you get my drift. Go to pbs.org/kelly to watch Tell Me More with Kelly Corrigan. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Thanks to a listener who makes an excellent point, I am correcting some recurring remarks about piano lessons being a total bust. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

With tenderness and optimism, Atul Gawande (author of Being Mortal, a must read) and Ai-jen Poo (who supports caregivers across the country) give us all a way to think about love, caregiving and facing mortality. To watch Kelly’s conversations with Atul and Ai-jen, go to www.pbs.org/kelly. If you love our pod, please give us a nice juicy 5 star rating. It takes about 2 seconds and helps lots of other people find us. Thanks. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Thoughts on doing things for no reason whatsoever, including an excerpt from Kate Bowler’s little book of devotionals called Good Enough, and my embarrassing need for rationalizing doing nothing as doing something. You’ll see. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Puzzles. Pickle Ball. Backgammon, hearts, Rummikub. Collaging, watercolors, knitting. What might have seemed nice-to-have is actually a must-have if you want to protect your mental, physical and intellectual well being. Catherine Price, a science journalist, has rounded up the evidence and it’s clear: fun matters. Listen to Kelly and Catherine talk through the when, how and why of playing. Share with anyone you know who needs a reminder of the power of fun. For more on embracing fun, check out Kelly’s For The Good of the Order on the Opposite of Stagnation. To learn more about Catherine’s book The Power of Fun: How to Feel Alive Again, visit https://howtohavefun.com/. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Right around this time, especially this year, there can be a pervasive feeling that change actually never happens. that things go in circles, that progress is a lullaby. I say no! Here’s my formula for keeping hope alive. Share with anyone who might be slowly sinking under the weight of it all. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

A big word for me as I get my head around 2022 is notice. What am I letting happen to myself? What might I be able to adjust or reject? Noticing seems like the obvious first step in self-management. Today’s conversation with Pamela Paul is about the things we have lost to the Internet and what, if anything, we want to do about it. What ideas, objects, habits and preferences has the Internet washed away? Can we claw some back? Pamela is the long time editor of the New York Times Book Review but she’s also written more than a handful of books herself. If you love this conversation, I’d suggest you loop back to the self-care conversation I had with Manoush Zomorodi or the conversation about becoming “indistractable” with Nir Eyal. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

In exploring a project about eulogies, I noticed something that made me question all the guilt I’m hearing about from parents who listened to my conversation with Julie Lythcott-Haims. I mean, yes, we make mistakes and those mistakes have consequences but our giant gorilla heart love doesn’t go unnoticed either. Share this with anyone who gets down on themselves about the bumpy ride that is family life. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

With not much more than a bag of chips and a tuba, Richard White found his way from intermittent homelessness and into the symphony This is a story to make you remember how much we can and do overcome. If you love this episode, you’ll also like hearing ultra-athlete Rich Roll talk about his long walk to solid ground and the irresistible Devone Boggan talk about the guys he takes to Disneyland every year. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

After re-listening to my conversation with Julie Lythcott-Haims about overparenting and reading hundreds of comments online, it seemed to me like there might be a way to transition from the hovering at close range to cheering from a safe distance. Here’s 3 minutes on the 3 steps I’m trying. Please share our work with your friends, or I should say KEEP sharing (clearly you have been since our reach has doubled in six months). We are happy to be useful and equally happy to keep our content free for all. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

There’s a lot to learn about how to help (or let) a kid become an adult from someone who worked with Stanford students for 10 years, not to mention someone who wrestles with every major moment in parenting herself. Julie Lythcott-Haims is the author of How to Raise an Adult and Your Turn: How to Be an Adult and is as honest as they come. This is one to play on repeat. If you loved this conversation, you might also like the August 27 quick hit pod on Parenting Mantras or Kelly's conversation with parenting expert Dr. Lisa Damour on how different generations approach parenting. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Ages ago, M Scott Peck (of The Road Less Traveled) studied success (personal and professional) and was surprised to discover that all the people in his study had one thing in common: they all report the exact same “most important” thing. As I sink into the reality of an empty nest, I felt the need to remind myself that it is not my children’s job (nor is it Edward’s) to make me happy. Hope you find it useful and worth sharing and of course, come visit me on Instagram @kellycorrigan to give feedback. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Kelly listens in tears as long time death row inmate Anthony Ray Hinton tells her the best story she's ever heard. With thanks to listeners for voting and Bryan Stevenson at the Equal Justice Initiative for introducing us to Mr. Hinton. Please share widely. This one will heal us. Other 2021 listener favorites mentioned in this episode include BJ Miller on Losing the Ones We Love and Anna Quindlen & Anna Sale on Misunderstandings: Finding Clarity in Retrospect. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices