Jake and Jonathan

Jake and Jonathan talk about one of their favorite books of all time! A book that will give a KILLER career boost! But before that, they talk about Jake’s sensitive area, motivation swings, Gandalf favorite moments. Storytelling.Links:Chris DoWorkshopper.comBUY Jake workshop ticketsBUY LevelUpUnused Audio Commentary By Howard Zinn And Noam Chomsky, Recorded Summer 2002 For The Fellowship Of The Ring (Platinum Series Extended Edition) DVD, Part OneBook: Made to StickMore books by the Heath brothersMalcolm Gladwell’s booksBook: IndistractableBook: Digital Minimalism Book: This book will teach you how to write betterKopywriting KourseBook: 11/22/63: A NovelBook: Getting RealBook: ReworkPlanet Money podcast This American Life podcastThe Colbert ReportThe New York Times paper subscriptionBook: Sprint by Jake KnappBook: Make Time by Jake KnappAJ&Smart + Jake Knapp Official Design Sprint Masterclass: ajsmart.com/masterclass 🥇😯Your Hosts:Rate the show on Apple PodcastsFollow Jake Knapp on Twitter: @jakekFollow Jonathan Courtney on Instagram or Twitter: @jicecreamFollow AJ&Smart on Instagram or Twitter: @ajsmartdesignWrite into the podcast: [email protected] editing by Jason Sanderson: PodcastTech.comShow notes by @amrkhalifehFollow the podcast on Medium

What’s a Hobbit? Wolves have meetings? Does Gandalf actually do REAL magic? Oh and Jonathan talks about the BEST PRODUCT HE’S EVER USED. Jake and Jonathan have an email-off! Find out why adding friction and asking your customers to work is actually a good thing. Finally, buy a book that Jonathan recommends even though he hasn’t read it yet!LinksBook: The HobbitLG UltraFine 4K DisplaySuperhumanConsider.coEO NetworkBook: Overdeliver: Build a Business for a Lifetime Playing the Long Game in Direct Response MarketingBook: Lost and Founder: A Painfully Honest Field Guide to the Startup WorldBook: Sprint by Jake KnappBook: Make Time by Jake KnappAJ&Smart + Jake Knapp Official Design Sprint Masterclass: ajsmart.com/masterclass 🥇😯Your Hosts:Rate the show on Apple PodcastsFollow Jake Knapp on Twitter: @jakekFollow Jonathan Courtney on Instagram or Twitter: @jicecreamFollow AJ&Smart on Instagram or Twitter: @ajsmartdesignWrite into the podcast: [email protected] editing by Jason Sanderson: PodcastTech.comShow notes by @amrkhalifehFollow the podcast on Medium

Jake & Jonathan talk about stuff! What stuff? Well, in this episode it starts with a quick review of Superhuman, then it goes on to talk about Annoying Humans: babies! Jonathan wants the crack the code of Fatherhood. The new iPhone is cheeky. And workshopper.com is now live!! 🎊Links:SuperhumanControlZelda Breath of the WildBook: Home Game: An Accidental Guide to Fatherhood | Amazon.comiPhone 11iPhone 11 ProWorkshopper.comSession LabBook: User Story Mapping | Amazon.comBook: Sprint by Jake KnappBook: Make Time by Jake KnappAJ&Smart + Jake Knapp Official Design Sprint Masterclass: ajsmart.com/masterclass 🥇😯Your Hosts:Rate the show on Apple PodcastsFollow Jake Knapp on Twitter: @jakekFollow Jonathan Courtney on Instagram or Twitter: @jicecreamFollow AJ&Smart on Instagram or Twitter: @ajsmartdesignWrite into the podcast: [email protected] editing by Jason Sanderson: PodcastTech.comShow notes by @amrkhalifehFollow the podcast on Medium

Welcome to the first episode of JAKE AND JONATHAN! The change in name symbolizes a change in focus since most episode didn’t include much product talk, and were just about whatever Jake and Jonathan wanted to talk about that week. And so, now that Jake and Jonathan don’t need to feel any pressure to talk about products, in this episode they decide to talk about…products! And email. Keyboard shortcuts. Design podcasts. And some books & movies. So it’s business as usual! 😝Links:Superhumanui__ux | Instagramuxgoodies | InstagramMagic SpoonSuperhuman is Spying on You | Mike DavidsonGoogle’s Inbox app is shutting down in March 2019 | The VergeSimplify for GmailConsider.coHigh Resolution Podcast1000 True Tans | kk.orgEpisode artwork by danielwilmslowhuddlestone.comthebadhotel | InstagramBook: The Body | Stephen King | Amazon.comStand By Me | IMDbBook: Bird Box: A Novel | Josh Malerman | Amazon.comBonanza Coffee BerlinFive Elephant Coffee BerlinRush | IMDbUs | IMDbGet Out | IMDbBook: Blackout: A Novel | Marc Elsberg | Amazon.comBook: Sprint by Jake KnappBook: Make Time by Jake KnappAJ&Smart + Jake Knapp Official Design Sprint Masterclass: ajsmart.com/masterclass 🥇😯Your Hosts:Rate PBC on Apple PodcastsFollow Jake Knapp on Twitter: @jakekFollow Jonathan Courtney on Instagram or Twitter: @jicecreamFollow AJ&Smart on Instagram or Twitter: @ajsmartdesignWrite into the podcast: [email protected] editing by Jason Sanderson: PodcastTech.comShow notes by @amrkhalifehFollow the podcast on Medium

It's been a fun ride! But all good things come to an end. Kind of. Jake and Jonathan have some important announcements to make in this episode. Tune in to know what they are! Links: Book: The Ends of the World by P. Brannen | Amazon.com Kindle Oasis 2019 | Amazon.com LG C8 OLED (OLED55C8, OLED65C8) review | TechRadar Red Dead Redemption 2 Mario Kart™ 8 Deluxe for Nintendo Switch Resident Evil 2 Remake Astral Chain Fire Emblem: Three Houses Control Book: Sprint by Jake Knapp Book: Make Time by Jake Knapp AJ&Smart + Jake Knapp Official Design Sprint Masterclass: ajsmart.com/masterclass 🥇😯 Your Hosts: Rate PBC on Apple Podcasts Follow Jake Knapp on Twitter: @jakek Follow Jonathan Courtney on Instagram or Twitter: @jicecream Follow AJ&Smart on Instagram or Twitter: @ajsmartdesign Write into the podcast: [email protected] Podcast editing by Jason Sanderson: PodcastTech.com Show notes by @amrkhalifeh Follow the podcast on Medium

(Rewind Episode) Jake and Jonathan interview a designer they both idolize: Jason Fried, co-founder of Basecamp. They go deep on Jason's tweet on the idea of testing products internally vs launching early and relying on gut. Links: Jason Fried's tweet Book: Rework | Amazon.com Book: Getting Real | Basecamp.com Disagree and commit (Jeff Bezos) Signal v. Noise Book: On Writing by Stephen King | Amazon.com Book: Sprint by Jake Knapp Book: Make Time by Jake Knapp AJ&Smart + Jake Knapp Official Design Sprint Masterclass: ajsmart.com/masterclass 🥇😯 Your Hosts: Rate PBC on Apple Podcasts Follow Jake Knapp on Twitter: @jakek Follow Jonathan Courtney on Instagram or Twitter: @jicecream Follow AJ&Smart on Instagram or Twitter: @ajsmartdesign Write into the podcast: [email protected] Podcast editing by Jason Sanderson: PodcastTech.com Show notes by @amrkhalifeh Follow the podcast on Medium

BOOKS! Well, just the one book, really. Jake and Jonathan talk about an underrated, under-the-radar book that you should read. Jonathan gives a book-related lifehack that will save you money. Which will help you take Jonathan's advice to buy ALL THE BOOKS YOU CAN EVEN IF IT MAKES YOU BROKE. Jonathan tells you how to get out of a creative rut. Then Jake and Jonathan wrap it up by talking about how they view this podcast and what they would like it to be. Was this the last episode..?! Links: Lost and Founder by Rand Fishkin - Amazon.com Rand Fishkin | Twitter Kindle Oasis | Amazon.com Radical Candor by Kim Scott | Amazon.com Tim Ferriss The Hobbit by J.R.R. Tolkien | Amazon.com Hope and Help for Your Nerves by Claire Weekes | Amazon.com The Power of Moments by Chip & Dan Heath | Amazon.com 1,000 True Fans Hideo Kojima Tools of Titans by Tim Ferriss | Amazon.com Twitter Design sharing about their experience with AJ&Smart Book: Sprint by Jake Knapp Book: Make Time by Jake Knapp AJ&Smart + Jake Knapp Official Design Sprint Masterclass: ajsmart.com/masterclass 🥇😯 Your Hosts: Rate PBC on Apple Podcasts Follow Jake Knapp on Twitter: @jakek Follow Jonathan Courtney on Instagram or Twitter: @jicecream Follow AJ&Smart on Instagram or Twitter: @ajsmartdesign Write into the podcast: [email protected] Podcast editing by Jason Sanderson: PodcastTech.com Show notes by @amrkhalifeh Follow the podcast on Medium

Strap in for another glorious ramblefest! Jake and Jonathan read some iTunes reviews MAYBE INCLUDING YOURS! Jonathan is bored. Again! Jake's Qi is acting up. Then Jake and Jonathan indulge in some self-love by reviewing one of their own previous episodes. Jonathan talks about CEOing. Jake was on the moon and tells a space story. Finally, travel sucks, even if they pay you a million dollars to do it. Links: InVision Our 15 favorite design podcasts | InVision Design Better Podcast Rate PBC on Apple Podcasts / iTunes ❤️ Bird Box: A Novel | Amazon.com What Is Chi Energy? Everything You Need to Know About the Ancient Chinese Term Superhuman Key & Peele : "Gremlins 2" Brainstorm - Uncensored | YouTube Book: Sprint by Jake Knapp Book: Make Time by Jake Knapp AJ&Smart + Jake Knapp Official Design Sprint Masterclass: ajsmart.com/masterclass 🥇😯 Your Hosts: Rate PBC on Apple Podcasts Follow Jake Knapp on Twitter: @jakek Follow Jonathan Courtney on Instagram or Twitter: @jicecream Follow AJ&Smart on Instagram or Twitter: @ajsmartdesign Write into the podcast: [email protected] Podcast editing by Jason Sanderson: PodcastTech.com Show notes by @amrkhalifeh Follow the podcast on Medium

This week's episode is a rebroadcast of Jonathan's interview with his favorite author Kim Scott, Founder of Candor Inc. & CEO coach for some of Silicon Valley's biggest companies. She was on the faculty of Apple University and was a leader for Google AdSense, YouTube and the Double Click team. Her other achievements include managing a pediatric clinic in war-torn Kosovo and building a diamond cutting company in Russia - Basically not many people can say they have her experiences in life, so listening to all this condensed into 30+ minutes should definitely put a smile on your face. It did ours! She's here to show off her book Radical Candor, which just so happens to be the best book on management and leadership that we've every read! You'll have yourself saying 'how did i not know this'!!! Enjoy. Links: radicalcandor.com BOOK: Radical Candor | Amazon.com Radical Candor podcast: Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Overcast Apple University | Wikipedia Sergey Brin | Wikipedia Eric Schmidt | Wikipedia Sheryl Sandberg | Wikipedia Radical Candor 2x2 Grid Bonus.ly Book: Sprint by Jake Knapp Book: Make Time by Jake Knapp AJ&Smart + Jake Knapp Official Design Sprint Masterclass: ajsmart.com/masterclass 🥇😯 Your Hosts: Follow Jake Knapp on Twitter: @jakek Follow Jonathan Courtney on Instagram or Twitter: @jicecream Follow AJ&Smart on Instagram or Twitter: @ajsmartdesign Write into the podcast: [email protected] Podcast editing by Jason Sanderson: PodcastTech.com Show notes by @amrkhalifeh Follow the podcast on Medium

Jake and Jonathan discuss the most important topic & figure in the design world—GANDALF—is he the Gray? Is he the White..? Does he actually have magic? Then they proceed to discuss how the Masterclass is sold and how crazy important the marketing part is. This is a must-listen for anyone who wants to launch a product! Links: The Lord of the Rings---Wikipedia Harry Potter---Wikipedia Book: Sprint by Jake Knapp AJ&Smart + Jake Knapp Official Design Sprint Masterclass: ajsmart.com/masterclass Iman Gadzhi Book: Expert Secrets: The Underground Playbook for Creating a Mass Movement of People Who Will Pay for Your Advice---Russell Brunson---Amazon.com Gary Vee Tim Ferriss Superhuman is Spying on You---Mike Davidson Revue La Croix Book: Bird Box: A Novel --- Josh Malerman --- Amazon.com Book: The Body---Stephen King---Amazon.com Book: Sprint by Jake Knapp Book: Make Time by Jake Knapp AJ&Smart + Jake Knapp Official Design Sprint Masterclass: ajsmart.com/masterclass 🥇😯 Your Hosts: Follow Jake Knapp on Twitter: @jakek Follow Jonathan Courtney on Instagram or Twitter: @jicecream Follow AJ&Smart on Instagram or Twitter: @ajsmartdesign Write into the podcast: [email protected] Podcast editing by Jason Sanderson: PodcastTech.com Show notes by @amrkhalifeh Follow the podcast on Medium

Jake and Jonathan finally get the recognition they deserve by the people at InVision---with an asterisk, though! Among other stuff, Jake & Jonathan discuss toilets (again!), how hospitality skills and working in a restaurant make you a better designer, and some boooooooks! Links: Book: Design Is How It Works: How the Smartest Companies Turn Products into Icons---Jay Greene---Amazon.com Ace Hotel Book: Setting the Table: The Transforming Power of Hospitality in Business Paperback --- Danny Meyer---Amazon.com Our 15 favorite design podcasts---InVision Blog Powell's Books Book: Recursion: A Novel Hardcover --- Blake Crouch---Amazon.com Book: Wool---Hugh Howey---Amazon.com Book: Bird Box: A Novel---Josh Malerman---Amazon.com Book: The Road---Cormac McCarthy---Amazon.com Book: Sprint by Jake Knapp Book: Make Time by Jake Knapp AJ&Smart + Jake Knapp Official Design Sprint Masterclass: ajsmart.com/masterclass 🥇😯 Your Hosts: Follow Jake Knapp on Twitter: @jakek Follow Jonathan Courtney on Instagram or Twitter: @jicecream Follow AJ&Smart on Instagram or Twitter: @ajsmartdesign Write into the podcast: [email protected] Podcast editing by Jason Sanderson: PodcastTech.com Show notes by @amrkhalifeh Follow the podcast on Medium

This episode is a re-release of previous episode. Chances are you haven't heard it because it's from ages ago. And even if you did, it's a really fun one and you probably already forgot all the good stuff that was in it. So listen again. 😌 This Episode.... Yes, THIS EPISODE, is the BEST episode... So much in this episode, You'll learn lot's of things, soooo many things! Side note --- If you take something from this episode, please let us know cause we have no idea what to write about it.... ....Wizards, that's it, you learn about wizards... and Back To The Future --- Terminator --- robot AI's. A super fun show from New York! Start spreading the news.... Links: How to Run 13 Design Sprints at Once: Inside Maker Week at The New York Times---Jake Knapp Design Thinking Persona Buy Sprint! AI Michelle Obama Runny eggs Tim Urban Wait But Why The AI Revolution: The Road to Superintelligence The AI Revolution: Our Immortality or Extinction SuperIntelligence Gandalf Ex Machina Roko's basilisk Elon Musk and Grimes are dating thanks to a super nerdy joke | Mashable Final destination 99U Conf Jason Fried Ace Hotel Beard oil Make Time book Steven Speilberg Steven Soderberg Interstellar Interstellar soundtrack Hans Zimmer Hans documentary Jonny Greenwood Paul Thomas Anderson Michael Bay Buy Sprint! Watch Interstellar Don't use Squarespace Book: Sprint by Jake Knapp Book: Make Time by Jake Knapp AJ&Smart + Jake Knapp Official Design Sprint Masterclass: ajsmart.com/masterclass 🥇😯 Your Hosts: Follow Jake Knapp on Twitter: @jakek Follow Jonathan Courtney on Instagram or Twitter: @jicecream Follow AJ&Smart on Instagram or Twitter: @ajsmartdesign Write into the podcast: [email protected] Podcast editing by Jason Sanderson: PodcastTech.com Show notes by @amrkhalifeh Follow the podcast on Medium

Jake interviews Braden Kowitz, product designer and startup founder, who co-authored Sprint alongside Jake and John Zeratsky. He's also the BEST interaction designer Jake has ever worked with! 🔥They talk about design, being a founder, and advice on working with a team of any size! Links: kowitz.co Range—Teamwork simplified Braden on Twitter Braden on Instagram Braden on Medium GV ClassPass Your Hosts: Follow Jake Knapp on Twitter: @jakek Follow Jonathan Courtney on Instagram or Twitter: @jicecream Follow AJ&Smart on Instagram or Twitter: @ajsmartdesign Write into the podcast: [email protected] Podcast editing by Jason Sanderson: PodcastTech.com Show notes by @amrkhalifeh Follow the podcast on Medium

Do you want to hang out with Jake and Jonathan on July 15 in SF..?! Sure you do! So make sure you keep an eye on Jonathan's Instagram and AJ&Smart's Instagram to get the details on the venue & time of the meetup! 🥳 Now onto the important stuff: how often do you get invited to weddings? Do dinosaurs still walk among us? How's Jonathan coping without his co-founder? Jonathan is feeling lonely at the top. And first world problems are still valid problems, dammit! Links: The Earthquake That Will Devastate the Pacific Northwest---The New Yorker Jake's newsletter The Day the Dinosaurs Died---The New Yorker Q-machine---Wikipedia Göbekli Tepe --- Wikipedia Graham Hancock EO Book: Sprint by Jake Knapp Book: Make Time by Jake Knapp AJ&Smart + Jake Knapp Official Design Sprint Masterclass: ajsmart.com/masterclass 🥇😯 Your Hosts: Follow Jake Knapp on Twitter: @jakek Follow Jonathan Courtney on Instagram or Twitter: @jicecream Follow AJ&Smart on Instagram or Twitter: @ajsmartdesign Write into the podcast: [email protected] Podcast editing by Jason Sanderson: PodcastTech.com Show notes by @amrkhalifeh Follow the podcast on Medium

Strap in for the longest intro ever---you're gonna love it! Jake & Jonathan eventually discuss Jony Ive's departure from Apple, but before that, they talk about being late, picking brains, career ladders, and other non-random stuff! Links: Why I'm Always Late---Wait But Why Inside the mind of a master procrastinator---Tim Urban---YouTube A few words of advice to brain pickers --- Signal v. Noise Students: Pretend I'm dead---Austin Kleon Career ladders, aka Canvas Strategy---Ryan Holiday Tim Brown---IDEO Jony Ive leaving Apple after nearly 30 years to start new design firm---The Verge Eli Schiff---Twitter Book: Sprint by Jake Knapp Book: Make Time by Jake Knapp AJ&Smart + Jake Knapp Official Design Sprint Masterclass:ajsmart.com/masterclass 🥇😯 Your Hosts: Follow Jake Knapp on Twitter: @jakek Follow Jonathan Courtney on Instagram or Twitter: @jicecream Follow AJ&Smart on Instagram or Twitter: @ajsmartdesign Write into the podcast: [email protected] Podcast editing by Jason Sanderson: PodcastTech.com Show notes by @amrkhalifeh Follow the podcast on Medium

Jake & Jonathan bombard Greg Maletic from Panic with questions about Panic's Playdate adorable little game console, Panic, Greg's background, and other juicy stuff! Links: Greg Maletic play.date Playdate (Twitter) Panic Firewatch Cabel Sasser Edge Teenage Engineering Dreamcast Book: Sprint by Jake Knapp Book: Make Time by Jake Knapp AJ&Smart + Jake Knapp Official Design Sprint Masterclass: ajsmart.com/masterclass 🥇😯 Your Hosts: Follow Jake Knapp on Twitter: @jakek Follow Jonathan Courtney on Instagram or Twitter: @jicecream Follow AJ&Smart on Instagram or Twitter: @ajsmartdesign Write into the podcast: [email protected] Podcast editing by Jason Sanderson: PodcastTech.com Show notes by @amrkhalifeh Follow the podcast on Medium

Jake interviews Liz Fosslien, co-author and illustrator of No Hard Feelings: The Secret Power of Embracing Emotions at Work. Links: Book: No Hard Feelings: The Secret Power of Embracing Emotions at Work fosslien.com Liz on Instagram Liz on Twitter Liz on LinkedIn Book: Sprint by Jake Knapp Book: Make Time by Jake Knapp AJ&Smart + Jake Knapp Official Design Sprint Masterclass: ajsmart.com/masterclass 🥇😯 Your Hosts: Follow Jake Knapp on Twitter: @jakek Follow Jonathan Courtney on Instagram or Twitter: @jicecream Follow AJ&Smart on Instagram or Twitter: @ajsmartdesign Write into the podcast: [email protected] Podcast editing by Jason Sanderson: PodcastTech.com Show notes by @amrkhalifeh Follow the podcast on Medium

Jake & Jonathan go over Facebook's new crypto announcements, how they feel about them, and where they think it's all going! Should people care about crypto now that Facebook's in the game? Then Jake & Jonathan shift gears in a seamless way to talk about some other stuff. 😝 Links: How To Run & Sell Design Sprints Like A Pro (Featuring Jake Knapp!) ajsmart.com/freetraining Coming in 2020: Calibra—Facebook Everything you need to know about Libra, Facebook's ambitious cryptocurrency—The Verge Commodore 64 Nintendo 64 Sega Genesis Nintendo Entertainment System E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial (Atari 2600)—YouTube Howard Scott Warshaw (the programmer) Stop And Admire The Original Super Mario Bros. Box Art—Kotaku Nintendo Switch Book: Sprint by Jake Knapp Book: Make Time by Jake Knapp AJ&Smart + Jake Knapp Official Design Sprint Masterclass: ajsmart.com/masterclass 🥇😯 Your Hosts: Follow Jake Knapp on Twitter: @jakek Follow Jonathan Courtney on Instagram or Twitter: @jicecream Follow AJ&Smart on Instagram or Twitter: @ajsmartdesign Write into the podcast: [email protected] Podcast editing by Jason Sanderson: PodcastTech.com Show notes by @amrkhalifeh Follow the podcast on Medium

Jonathan is alone. Again! Because Jake couldn't record with him before Jonathan's bed time. 👶 Jonathan reviews a product that he HATED. Turns out sometimes design is not as important as just getting the basics right. Jonathan shares some of his favorite resources to stay up-to-date in the tech industry. 🔥 Links: How To Run & Sell Design Sprints Like A Pro (Featuring Jake Knapp!): ajsmart.com/freetraining Chernobyl SkyTicket Audible.com Apple Design Awards TechMeme.com TechMeme Ride Home Podcast The Verge Vala Afshar Steven Sinofsky Andrew Chen a16z Blog Benedict Evans Stratechery Book: Playing to Win E3 Book: Sprint by Jake Knapp Book: Make Time by Jake Knapp AJ&Smart + Jake Knapp Official Design Sprint Masterclass:ajsmart.com/masterclass 🥇😯 Your Hosts: Follow Jake Knapp on Twitter: @jakek Follow Jonathan Courtney on Instagram or Twitter: @jicecream Follow AJ&Smart on Instagram or Twitter: @ajsmartdesign Write into the podcast: [email protected] Podcast editing by Jason Sanderson: PodcastTech.com Show notes by @amrkhalifeh Follow the podcast on Medium

Jonathan does a solo deep dive on all the new announcements from Apple that came out of WWDC 2019! Links: How To Run & Sell Design Sprints Like A Pro (Featuring Jake Knapp!) watchOS 6 Preview iOS 13 Preview iPadOS Preview Mac Pro Pro Display XDR macOS Catalina Preview Vlad Savov Mark Gurman Joshua Topolsky Matthew Panzarino Book: Sprint by Jake Knapp Book: Make Time by Jake Knapp AJ&Smart + Jake Knapp Official Design Sprint Masterclass:ajsmart.com/masterclass 🥇😯 Your Hosts: Follow Jake Knapp on Twitter: @jakek Follow Jonathan Courtney on Instagram or Twitter: @jicecream Follow AJ&Smart on Instagram or Twitter: @ajsmartdesign Write into the podcast: [email protected] Podcast editing by Jason Sanderson: PodcastTech.com Show notes by @amrkhalifeh Follow the podcast on Medium

Jake & Jonathan go on a Play Date, literally not figuratively. Jonathan likes products that are made by teenagers---if they are also engineers. What is Withered Technology and how can you use it in your next meeting? Also, Jonathan asks Jake some totally relevant product questions. Links: Play.date Cabel Sasser (Twitter) Panic Transmit Edge Magazine The Playdate Is A Boutique Gaming Handheld With A Crank---Wired Teenage Engineering OP-1 Mark Zuckerberg apparently tried to buy Panic, the creator of Playdate---Engadget Teehan+Lax IDEO Ueno Pentagram Accenture Nintendo's Little-Known Product Philosophy: Lateral Thinking with Withered ("Weathered") Technology---Medium Wii---Wikipedia iPod Shuffle---Wikipedia So Cards Guy Walks Into Giant Bear While Texting---YouTube Book: Sprint by Jake Knapp Book: Make Time by Jake Knapp AJ&Smart + Jake Knapp Official Design Sprint Masterclass:ajsmart.com/masterclass 🥇😯 Your Hosts: Follow Jake Knapp on Twitter: @jakek Follow Jonathan Courtney on Instagram or Twitter: @jicecream Follow AJ&Smart on Instagram or Twitter: @ajsmartdesign Write into the podcast: [email protected] Podcast editing by Jason Sanderson: PodcastTech.com Show notes by @amrkhalifeh Follow the podcast on Medium

Strap in for silly one! If you love Jake & Jonathan rambling about nothing in particular, this one is for you! Reviews make Jake cry. Jonathan doesn't like being misunderstood. Jake has no ego. Jonathan gets a bad coffee rating. Jake has a fancy toaster. 🍞 Links: Book: Ego is the Enemy Book: Power of Moments Kevin Rose Breville Ex Machina Crete Book: Sprint by Jake Knapp Book: Make Time by Jake Knapp AJ&Smart + Jake Knapp Official Design Sprint Masterclass: ajsmart.com/masterclass Your Hosts: Follow Jake Knapp on Twitter: @jakek Follow Jonathan Courtney on Instagram or Twitter: @jicecream Follow AJ&Smart on Instagram or Twitter: @ajsmartdesign Write into the podcast: [email protected] Podcast editing by Jason Sanderson: PodcastTech.com Show notes by @amrkhalifeh Follow the podcast on Medium

Tim & Amr are filling in for Jake & Jonathan this week—which means you'll actually get to listen to an episode related to the product world (shots fired)! They talk about how you shouldn't aim for empathy in design. And how books don't work. Links: Tim on Twitter Amr on Twitter Amr on Instagram Why I Don't Believe in Empathic Design---Don Norman---Adobe Blog Book: The Design of Everyday Things Book: Competing Against Luck: The Story of Innovation and Customer Choice Jobs-to-be-Done Book: Rework Jason Fried DHH Mike Matas Andy Matuschak Why books don't work---Andy Matuschak Quantum Country Learning How to Learn: Powerful mental tools to help you master tough subjects---Coursera Book: Buy Sprint! 📘🏃‍♀️ Book: Buy Make Time! 📗⏰ AJ&Smart + Jake Knapp Official Design Sprint Masterclass: ajsmart.com/masterclass 🥇😯 Your Hosts: Follow Jake Knapp on Twitter: @jakek Follow Jonathan Courtney on Instagram or Twitter: @jicecream Follow AJ&Smart on Instagram or Twitter: @ajsmartdesign Write into the podcast: [email protected] Podcast editing by Jason Sanderson: PodcastTech.com Show notes by @amrkhalifeh Follow the podcast on Medium

Jake & Amr talk about some books. Jake talks about books that influenced the idea that would later be part of the Design Sprint. How non-design books can help product designers. Facebook's redesign. Email. Distractions. Stuff! Links: Book: Sprint: How to Solve Big Problems and Test New Ideas in Just Five Days Book: Hacking Growth Book: Radical Candor Book: The Lean Startup Book: Power of Moments Book: Getting Real Book: Getting Things Done The Checklist---Atul Gawande---The New Yorker Book: The Checklist Manifesto Book: Decisive Book: Made to Stick Book: The Design of Everyday Things Book: Fooled by Randomness Book: Fooled by Randomness---Audible Facebook is redesigning its core app around the two parts people actually like to use---The Verge The 5 biggest announcements from Facebook's F8 developer conference keynote---The Verge The Innovation Hackers group on Facebook Cluster Ben Thompson's Stratechery Simplify for Gmail Inbox by Gmail Google Talk Priority Inbox Cal Newport Jake's workshops Jake's newsletter Book: Buy Sprint! 📘🏃‍♀️ Book: Buy Make Time! 📗⏰ AJ&Smart + Jake Knapp Official Design Sprint Masterclass:ajsmart.com/masterclass 🥇😯 Your Hosts: Follow Jake Knapp on Twitter: @jakek Follow Jonathan Courtney on Instagram or Twitter: @jicecream Follow AJ&Smart on Instagram or Twitter: @ajsmartdesign Write into the podcast: [email protected] Podcast editing by Jason Sanderson: PodcastTech.com Show notes by @amrkhalifeh Follow the podcast on Medium

Jake & Jonathan talk about the messiness of gigantic projects in the design world and how they're set up to fail from the start, all in the context of the recent scandal with Accenture. Links: Hertz Sues Accenture for Breach of Contract Over 'Seriously Deficient' Web Design Work---Adweek Accenture sued over website redesign so bad it Hertz: Car hire biz demands $32m+ for 'defective' cyber-revamp --- The Register Accenture Fjord Baba Is You Edge Trüberbrook BTF Stardew Valley Game jam Book: Buy Sprint! 📘🏃‍♀️ Book: Buy Make Time! 📗⏰ AJ&Smart + Jake Knapp Official Design Sprint Masterclass: ajsmart.com/masterclass 🥇😯 Your Hosts: Follow Jake Knapp on Twitter: @jakek Follow Jonathan Courtney on Instagram or Twitter: @jicecream Follow AJ&Smart on Instagram or Twitter: @ajsmartdesign Write into the podcast: [email protected] Podcast editing by Jason Sanderson: PodcastTech.com Show notes by @amrkhalifeh Follow the podcast on Medium

The podcast is back to normal this week. Which means there’s a whole lot of rambling and very little structure. Jonathan gives a few updates on his company (AJ&Smart) and mentions he’s looking to hire a few people. Then the boys talk VR and some book recommendations. Links: Simplify for Gmail There new open positions at AJ&Smart Jonathan had a great time at the INDUSTRY: The Product Conference Jonathan thinks the Nintendo VR is really cute Facebook VR avatar—Wired Book: Neuromancer—William Gibson—Amazon.com Book: The Fifth Science—Exurb1a—Amazon.com Book: Trillion Dollar Coach: The Leadership Playbook of Silicon Valley’s Bill Campbell—Eric Schmidt—Amazon.com Book: Rich Dad Poor Dad: What the Rich Teach Their Kids About Money That the Poor and Middle Class Do Not!—Robert T. Kiyosaki—Amazon.com Book: Crucial Conversations Tools for Talking When Stakes Are High, Second Edition—Kerry Patterson—Amazon.com Book: Ego is the Enemy: The Fight to Master Our Greatest Opponent—Ryan Holiday—Amazon.com Ryan Holiday Book: Perennial Seller: The Art of Making and Marketing Work that Lasts—Ryan Holiday—Amazon.com Book: 11/22/63: A Novel—Stephen King—Amazon.com Book: The Body — Stephen King — Amazon.com Stand by Me—Wikipedia Book: Different Seasons: Four Novellas—Stephen King—Amazon.com Book: Buy Sprint! 📘🏃‍♀️ Book: Buy Make Time! 📗⏰ AJ&Smart + Jake Knapp Official Design Sprint Masterclass: ajsmart.com/masterclass 🥇😯 Your Hosts: Follow Jake Knapp on Twitter: @jakek Follow Jonathan Courtney on Instagram or Twitter: @jicecream Follow AJ&Smart on Instagram or Twitter: @ajsmartdesign Write into the podcast: [email protected] Podcast editing by Jason Sanderson: PodcastTech.com Show notes by @amrkhalifeh Follow the podcast on Medium

Jake interviews ex-Googler Xander Pollock—one of the first people to run sell Design Sprints outside Google. They cover a bunch of topics, such as: Starting a company Raising funding How Google made the decision to buy Xander’s company Building relationships, no ego, directness Salary negotiations & making career decisions based on money Going independent Links designsprintpro.com Xander on LinkedIn, Medium, Twitter Tim Ferriss Marissa Mayer Paul Graham Punchd Fivestars Inbox by Gmail—Wikipedia Design Thinking—Wikipedia McKinsey Bain Book: Million Dollar Consulting—Alan Weiss—Amazon.com Book: Buy Sprint! 📘🏃‍♀️ Book: Buy Make Time! 📗⏰ AJ&Smart + Jake Knapp Official Design Sprint Masterclass: ajsmart.com/masterclass 🥇😯 Your Hosts: Follow Jake Knapp on Twitter: @jakek Follow Jonathan Courtney on Instagram or Twitter: @jicecream Follow AJ&Smart on Instagram or Twitter: @ajsmartdesign Write into the podcast: [email protected] Podcast editing by Jason Sanderson: PodcastTech.com Show notes by @amrkhalifeh Follow the podcast on Medium

Jonathan's not here this week. So Jake is joined by Amr from AJ&Smart. Deja vu, anyone? Here’s a peek at the topics discussed in this episode: 01:00—Amr's journey to becoming a designer 19:20—Apple & VR 31:20—Snap's new Snap Kit 45:40—Pinterest's approach to growth 51:50—The moral & ethical implications of design Links: Amr Khalifeh on Instagram Amr Khalifeh on Twitter Amr’s master studies: Usability Engineering, M.Sc. — Hochschule Rhein-Waal Apple has reportedly hired Arthur van Hoff, a founding executive of the Disney-backed VR startup Jaunt, as a senior architect—Variety Segway—Wikipedia Book: Ready Player One—Ernest Cline—Amazon.com Bird Lime Design Sprint—YouTube AirPods Google Glass—Wikipedia M.G. Siegler’s Newsletter Snap Kit To stop copycats, Snapchat shares itself—TechCrunch The anti-Facebook: Inside Pinterest’s slow and quiet rise—CNN Hippocratic Oath—Wikipedia Don’t be evil — Google — Wikipedia Book: Ruined by Design: How Designers Destroyed the World, and What We Can Do to Fix It—Mike Monteiro—Amazon.com Book: Superintelligence: Paths, Dangers, Strategies—Nick Bostrom—Amazon.com Book: Buy Sprint! 📘🏃‍♀️ Book: Buy Make Time! 📗⏰ AJ&Smart + Jake Knapp Official Design Sprint Masterclass: ajsmart.com/masterclass 🥇😯 Your Hosts: Follow Jake Knapp on Twitter: @jakek Follow Jonathan Courtney on Instagram or Twitter: @jicecream Follow AJ&Smart on Instagram or Twitter: @ajsmartdesign Write into the podcast: [email protected] Podcast editing by Jason Sanderson: PodcastTech.com Show notes by @amrkhalifeh Follow the podcast on Medium

Jake’s not here this week. So Jonathan is joined by Amr from AJ&Smart to talk about a little more about Apple (since they had their media event a couple weeks back); compare Apple’s leadership with Microsoft’s; and how to approach working on a “boring” product. Here’s a peek at the topics discussed in this episode: Innovators vs executors Has Apple become boring? Who’s running product at Apple? How Steve Ballmer ran Microsoft How success can set you up to be disrupted Microsoft is interesting now..?! Companies should focus on doing boring well How do you pitch a boring product? Innovation is overrated The importance of framing in product design Links Amr Khalifeh on Instagram Amr Khalifeh on Twitter Daring Fireball Book: The Four Steps to the Epiphany—Steve Blank Book: The Lean Startup: How Today’s Entrepreneurs Use Continuous Innovation to Create Radically Successful Businesses—Eric Ries Appl Still Hasn’t Fixd Its MacBook Kyboad Problm—Joanna Stern—The Wall Street Journal Apple apologizes for continued reliability problems with its MacBook keyboards The MacBook keyboard fiasco is way worse than Apple thinks—DHH—Signal v Noise Steve Jobs joking about MobileMe Loom Camtasia Book: Rework—Jason Fried & DHH Airtable Telegram Basecamp Book: Buy Sprint! 📘🏃‍♀️ Book: Buy Make Time! 📗⏰ AJ&Smart + Jake Knapp Official Design Sprint Masterclass:ajsmart.com/masterclass 🥇😯 Your Hosts: Follow Jake Knapp on Twitter: @jakek Follow Jonathan Courtney on Instagram or Twitter: @jicecream Follow AJ&Smart on Instagram or Twitter: @ajsmartdesign Write into the podcast: [email protected] Podcast editing by Jason Sanderson: PodcastTech.com Show notes by @amrkhalifeh Follow the podcast on Medium

Jake & Jonathan finally discuss Apple on the podcast for the FIRST TIME EVER! It’s weird how they’ve never covered Apple before—given Apple’s importance in the product space. But anyway, it’s here now! Enjoy! Here’s a peek at the topics discussed in this episode: Understanding Apple's rececnt announcements How Google Stadia is related to YouTube watch time Apple Arcade and Jonathan’s predication about it Critiquing Apple’s marketing pages Apple’s relationship with gaming Explaining why Apple’s lineup doesn’t make sense at times How Jake uses his iPad Pro Is Twitter better than Instagram for product designers? Links Apple unveils Apple TV+, the new home for the world’s most creative storytellers—Apple.com Apple introduces Apple Arcade — the world’s first game subscription service for mobile, desktop and the living room—Apple.com Introducing Apple Card, a new kind of credit card created by Apple—Apple.com Apple launches Apple News+, an immersive magazine and news reading experience—Apple.com AirPods, the world’s most popular wireless headphones, are getting even better—Apple.com iMac gets a 2x performance boost—Apple.com All-new iPad Air and iPad mini deliver dramatic power and capability—Apple.com Stratechery.com Baba Is You for Nintendo Switch Rumor: Xbox Games Pass Allegedly Coming to Nintendo Switch Official Google Stadia GDC 2019 Announcement Recap Vala Afshar on Twitter **Book: **Buy Sprint! 📘🏃‍♀️ **Book: **Buy Make Time! 📗⏰ AJ&Smart + Jake Knapp Official Design Sprint Masterclass:ajsmart.com/masterclass 🥇😯 Your Hosts: Follow Jake Knapp on Twitter: @jakek Follow Jonathan Courtney on Instagram or Twitter: @jicecream Follow AJ&Smart on Instagram or Twitter: @ajsmartdesign Write into the podcast: [email protected] Podcast editing by Jason Sanderson: PodcastTech.com Show notes by @amrkhalifeh Follow the podcast on Medium

All-time favorite guest Mona Patel—Founder & CEO of Motivate Design—is back to chat with Jonathan in another AMAZING episode! This is a really fun episode that’s also PACKED with great advice. Some of the topics discussed in this episode: What matters to Mona in building a company? How does Mona deals with people problem at Motivate Design? The difference between a President and a CEO The importance of self awareness in a founder New Island vs Old Island metaphor & managing big change in a company The importance of R&D & Thinking Time Jonathan’s _Temperature Checks _at AJ&Smart Loneliness in entrepreneurship & how to avoid it Relationship banks & Canvas Strategy Why you should do your research before asking someone for help And last but not least, HOW TO INTIMIDATE MEN! 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 Get 50% off of Mona’s new Masterclass by using the discount code MONAPBC: 2-Week Research Sprint Masterclass—Learn everything you need to run an efficient and powerful 2-Week Research Sprint with confidence 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 Links Product Breakfast Club #49: MONA PATEL on Starting and Growing a Multi–Million Dollar Design Agency monapatel.nyc Mona Patel on Instagram Mona Patel on Twitter Mona Patel on LinkedIn Motivate Design Masterclass: 2-Week Research Sprint—Learn everything you need to run an efficient and powerful 2-Week Research Sprint with confidence. 🔥 Use discount code MONAPBC during checkout to get 50% off the course! 🔥 Book: Reframe: Shift the Way You Work, Innovate, and Think—Mona Patel Book: The Thing About Swings—Mona Patel Book: Traction: How Any Startup Can Achieve Explosive Customer Growth — Gabriel Weinberg Tim Brown Jared Spool on Twitter Book: Scaling Up — Mastering the Rockefeller Habits 2.0—Verne Harnish EO Network—The World’s Only Peer-to-peer Network Exclusively for Entrepreneurs PR Volt Noom Weight Loss App **Book: **Buy Sprint! 📘🏃‍♀️ **Book: **Buy Make Time! 📗⏰ AJ&Smart + Jake Knapp Official Design Sprint Masterclass:ajsmart.com/masterclass 🥇😯 Your Hosts: Follow Jake Knapp on Twitter: @jakek Follow Jonathan Courtney on Instagram or Twitter: @jicecream Follow AJ&Smart on Instagram or Twitter: @ajsmartdesign Write into the podcast: [email protected] Podcast editing by Jason Sanderson: PodcastTech.com Show notes by @amrkhalifeh Follow the podcast on Medium

How often do you get the chance to listen to the VP of Facebook, Julie Zhuo, talk about her work..?!? (Crickets) Yeah, we thought so. That’s why we think you’ll LOVE this episode! Jake & Jonathan (well mostly Jake), ask Julie a lot of questions you would want to ask to someone who’s as successful & amazing as Julie. Here’s a sneak peek of the topics covered: Joining Facebook Managing hundreds of people Imposter syndrome Writing & how it’s related to clear thinking What does VP of design at Facebook do Where do new ideas come from? Links: juliezhuo.com Book: The Making Of A Manager Read Julie’s writing on The Year of the Looking Glass Subscribe to Julie’s Mailing List Subscribe to Jake’s newsletter Book: Super intelligence—Nick Bostrom Book: Buy Sprint! 📘🏃‍♀️ Book: Buy Make Time! 📗⏰ AJ&Smart + Jake Knapp Official Design Sprint Masterclass:ajsmart.com/masterclass 🥇😯 Your Hosts: Follow Jake Knapp on Twitter: @jakek Follow Jonathan Courtney on Instagram or Twitter: @jicecream Follow AJ&Smart on Instagram or Twitter: @ajsmartdesign Write into the podcast: [email protected] Podcast editing by Jason Sanderson: PodcastTech.com Show notes by @amrkhalifeh Follow the podcast on Medium

Jake & Jonathan go into deep topics in this one! 🍆 But before they do, Jonathan does a victory dance 💃 because he won a certain bet. 🤑 Then they dive into the deep stuff, talking about motivation, human nature, happiness, and how all of that affects work, whether it’s writing a book, running an agency, or doing sprints. Links: Book: Stumbling on Happiness—Daniel Gilbert Book: The Happiness Hypothesis: Finding Modern Truth in Ancient Wisdom Paperback—Jonathan Haidt Book: Man’s Search for Meaning—Viktor E. Frankl Buy Sprint! 📘🏃‍♀️ Buy Make Time! 📗⏰ AJ&Smart + Jake Knapp Official Design Sprint Masterclass:ajsmart.com/masterclass 🥇😯 Your Hosts: Follow Jake Knapp on Twitter: @jakek Follow Jonathan Courtney on Instagram or Twitter: @jicecream Write into the podcast: [email protected] Podcast editing by Jason Sanderson: PodcastTech.com Show notes by @amrkhalifeh Follow the podcast on Medium

Jonathan and Tim sit down to discuss the top 10 most innovative companies of 2019! Who’s Tim, you ask? Good question. They go through the top 10 one by one and discuss what they think of these companies and their innovations. 💡 Links: Tim Hoefer on Instagram Tim Hoefer on Twitter The World’s 50 Most Innovative Companies 2019—Fast Company #10: twitch.tv Book: Zero to One Peter Thiel #9: Oatly #8: Square #7: Apeel Sciences #6: Sweetgreen #5: Stitch Fix #4: The Walt Disney Company #3: NBA #2: Grab #1: Meituan Dianping Book: Blitzscaling: The Lightning-Fast Path to Building Massively Valuable Companies Go-Jek Fedor Shklirau on Twitter Fedor Shklirau on Instagram Yandex Connie Chan on Twitter Rumor: Xbox Games Pass Allegedly Coming to Nintendo Switch—IGN Buy Sprint! 📘🏃‍♀️ Buy Make Time! 📗⏰ AJ&Smart + Jake Knapp Official Design Sprint Masterclass:ajsmart.com/masterclass 🥇😯 Your Hosts: Follow Jake Knapp on Twitter: @jakek Follow Jonathan Courtney on Instagram or Twitter: @jicecream Write into the podcast: [email protected] Podcast editing by Jason Sanderson: PodcastTech.com Show notes by @amrkhalifeh Follow the podcast on Medium

Another week, another Jake-less episode. In this one, Jonathan interviews Jason Feifer, Editor in Chief at Entrepreneur Magazine. Jason also has 2 great podcasts: Pessimist Archive, Problem Solvers. And he's written for a bunch of famous publications. Aaaand he's also written a novel, Mr. Nice Guy. Jonathan and Jason discuss entrepreneurship, striving for perfectionism (as in you shouldn't!), and some great advice! Links jasonfeifer.com Jason on Twitter Jason on Instagram Jason's writing on Entrepreneur Mag Pessimist Archive Podcast Problem Solvers Podcast Mr. Nice Guy Tim Ferriss Huge Inc 4 Hour Workweek on Amazon The New Yorker This American Life Serial podcast Descript Andrew Mason on Twitter Buy Sprint! 📘🏃‍♀️ Buy Make Time! 📗⏰ AJ&Smart + Jake Knapp Official Design Sprint Masterclass:ajsmart.com/masterclass 🥇😯 Your Hosts: Follow Jake Knapp on Twitter: @jakek Follow Jonathan Courtney on Instagram or Twitter: @jicecream Write into the podcast: [email protected] Podcast editing by Jason Sanderson: PodcastTech.com Show notes by @amrkhalifeh Follow the podcast on Medium

For those of you poor souls who subscribed to this podcast hoping to hear intelligent discussions about the product world, you’ve probably noticed that such discussions are a rare treat… BUT TODAT IS ONE SUCH TREAT! Jake & Jonathan discuss the acquisitions Spotify made as part of its strategy to OWN the podcasting space. Jake actually prepared for this one! You’re in for a good episode… Links: Spotify buys Gimlet and Anchor in podcast push, earmarks $500M for more deals Anchor—The best way to make your podcast Gimlet Media StartUp podcast Homecoming podcast Apple Takes Podcasting Mainstream (2005) Spotify’s Podcast Aggregation Play—Stratechery Midroll—Podcast Advertising Network ODEO—Wikipedia This American Life NPR Planet Money Gimlet 13: Fake It Til You Make It—StartUp Sign up to Jake’s newsletter Product Breakfast Club #62: Product Business Models of the Future Why Can’t We Have Decent Toilet Stalls?—Slate The LEGO Movie 2—IMDb Buy Sprint! 📘🏃‍♀️ Buy Make Time! 📗⏰ AJ&Smart + Jake Knapp Official Design Sprint Masterclass:ajsmart.com/masterclass 🥇😯 Your Hosts: Follow Jake Knapp on Twitter: @jakek Follow Jonathan Courtney on Instagram or Twitter: @jicecream Write into the podcast: [email protected] Podcast editing by Jason Sanderson: PodcastTech.com Show notes by @amrkhalifeh Follow the podcast on Medium

People. Naked people. Naked people running in the street. Naked people in the sauna. Jonathan naked in a sauna. 16 minutes of that. Then awards. 2018 awards. But not necessarily for stuff that came out in It’s a fun one. Enjoy! 😘 Links: Joe Rogan’s podcast Product Breakfast Club #64: Kevin Rose gives us EPIC Product Advice! Vabali Sauna DDR Museum BIC Atlantis Bold Retractable Ball Pen, Bold Point (1.6mm), Black, 3-Count Maruman Mnemosyne N181 A4 Imagination Notepad Roborock S5 Robot Vacuum and Mop AirPods The Lives Of Others Apple blocks Facebook from running its internal iOS apps — The Verge Zuckerberg’s Facebook shares Nintendo Switch Mario Kart Diablo 3 Overcooked 2 NakeyJakey Professor Brian Cox iPad Pro M.G. Siegler Light Phone 2 Buy Sprint! 📘🏃‍♀️ Buy Make Time! 📗⏰ AJ&Smart + Jake Knapp Official Design Sprint Masterclass:ajsmart.com/masterclass 🥇😯 Your Hosts: Follow Jake Knapp on Twitter: @jakek Follow Jonathan Courtney on Instagram or Twitter: @jicecream Write into the podcast: [email protected] Podcast editing by Jason Sanderson: PodcastTech.com Show notes by @amrkhalifeh Follow the podcast on Medium

This is a big one! This might just be the BEST EPISODE YET!! Why, you ask..? Because Jake & Jonathan are joined by none other than the legendary Kevin Rose. Jonathan doesn’t even bother talking for most of the episode because he just wants Kevin and Jake to keep talking! Here’s some of the stuff they cover: 4:30 Getting into products 9:00 dealing with failure and trying crazy things 15:00 being too early to a market 18:25 gut feeling vs market research and talking to users 23:00 ideas vs execution and getting started 27:00 VR 31:00 the entrepreneur eyes 36:00 school & daydreaming 42:45 Kevin’s favorite digital & physical products 49:00 finding balance Links: Kevin Rose — Wikipedia @kevinrose on Twitter @kevinrose on Instagram The Kevin Rose Show Kevin’s investments (Angel.co) Digg Revision3 Milk Zero — Fasting Tracker Oak — Meditation & Breathing Google Ventures (GV) True Ventures Blue Bottle Coffee Nextdoor—The private social network for your neighborhood community The Random Show Podcast Tiiny Stewart Butterfield—Wikipedia Burbn Salesforce.com Oculus Rift Oculus Go HTC Vive Samsung Gear VR Microsoft HoloLens Nintendo Switch Oura Ring UV-B lamps—Wikipedia DailyArt—Daily Dose of Art History The Wim Hoff Method Host Defense — Stamets 7 Multi Mushroom Capsules—Amazon.com Buy Sprint! 📘🏃‍♀️ Buy Make Time! 📗⏰ AJ&Smart + Jake Knapp Official Design Sprint Masterclass:ajsmart.com/masterclass 🥇😯 Your Hosts: Follow Jake Knapp on Twitter: @jakek Follow Jonathan Courtney on Instagram or Twitter: @jicecream Write into the podcast: [email protected] Podcast editing by Jason Sanderson: PodcastTech.com Show notes by @amrkhalifeh Follow the podcast on Medium

Fish burning. 🐟 Dog barking. 🐶 Jonathan is doing a Growth Sprint Workshop?! That's not all. He's also leaving money on the table. It's right there. Yes, that table. It's your if you want it. 🤑 Babies are dogs. Or maybe they're comparable to dogs. Something like that. 🤷‍♂️ Also, don't feel bad about stuff that makes you feel bad. 😌 Links Book: Hacking Growth Book: Sprint Sean Ellis Chris D’Elia podcast funnygifs.com (not a real boy) Why Procrastinators Procrastinate—Wait But Why Inside the mind of a master procrastinator | Tim Urban Michael Margolis Dungeons & Dragons Malcom Gladwell’s podcast Rate the show on Apple Podcasts 💦💦💦💦💦 Sponsor: Cash App Sponsor: MeUndies.com Sponsor: Squarespace.com Sponsor: Emirates First Class Buy Sprint! 📘🏃‍♀️ Buy Make Time! 📗⏰ AJ&Smart + Jake Knapp Official Design Sprint Masterclass:ajsmart.com/masterclass 🥇😯 Your Hosts: Follow Jake Knapp on Twitter: @jakek Follow Jonathan Courtney on Instagram or Twitter: @jicecream Write into the podcast: [email protected] Podcast editing by Jason Sanderson: PodcastTech.com Show notes by @amrkhalifeh Follow the podcast on Medium

Jake & Jonathan kick-off the first episode of the new year by diving straight into prod… no, they start by rambling for a good long while. But it’s good rambling: new year goals, journaling, setting OKRs, and Jonathan’s mom meets a random Irish guy that knows Jake. 😂 But then! Then Jake and Jonathan talk about a super interesting article about advertising business models and going beyond them. It’s a good one! 🤑 Links OKR Fedor (designer at AJ&Smart) on Twitter, Instagram Outgrowing Advertising: Multimodal Business Models as a Product Strategy by Connie Chan When AI is the Product: The Rise of AI-Based Consumer Apps by Connie Chan Connie Chan on Twitter Andreesen Horowitz Andreesen Horowitz (A16z) podcast Andreesen Horowitz (A16z) on YouTube Book: The Hard Thing About Hard Things: Building a Business When There Are No Easy Answers by Ben Horowitz Stratechery TikTok Seth Godin Malcom Gladwell Buy Sprint! 📘🏃‍♀️ Buy Make Time! 📗⏰ AJ&Smart + Jake Knapp Official Design Sprint Masterclass:ajsmart.com/masterclass 🥇📹 Your Hosts: Follow Jake Knapp on Twitter: @jakek Follow Jonathan Courtney on Instagram or Twitter: @jicecream Write into the podcast: [email protected] Podcast editing by Jason Sanderson: PodcastTech.com Show notes by Amr Khalifeh. IG: @amrkhalifeh Follow the podcast on Medium

Strap in for the end of the year extravaganza! The episode, appropriately, starts off with favorite breakfast sandwiches of 🥪 Jake and Jonathan would love for you to invite them to your country and show them around! 🌍Should designers make a good personal website in today’s social-first world? No! Or.. maybe yes. Although… 🤔 Jake and Jonathan share some painful lessons they’ve learned this year. 😬 Finally, the episode ends on a high note with a story from Jake. 🏀 Links: Nintendo Switch™ Mario Kart™ 8 PBC #49: MONA PATEL on Starting and Growing a Multi Million Dollar Design Agency PBC #X: Jason Fried gives us SAVAGE Product Advice Become A Facebook-Free Business—DHH—Signal v. Noise Room of Requirement Chloe’s Cafe KRONE — kitchen & coffee (Berlin) Bonanza Coffee (Berlin) Tove Jansson Kevin Rose ⛩ (@kevinrose) · Twitter Dirty T Chris Do jonathancourtneyux.com uxmessiah.com conversionmessiah.com Andrew Kim (@mnmllymnml)—Instagram Ray Dalio: A Meaningful Life | The James Altucher Show, Ep. 290 Book: Principles: Life and Work by Ray Dalio 331 Ryan Holiday — Behind the Conspiracy— James Altucher Book: Atomic Habits by James Clear Book: Radical Candor: Be a Kick-Ass Boss Without Losing Your Humanity by Kim Scott Form: Growth consultancy for creative and tech businesses Book: Man’s Search for Meaning by Viktor E. Frankl Book: Ready Player One: A Novel by Ernest Cline Send Jake a message: [email protected] Omnipresent Links: Buy Sprint! 📘 Buy Make Time! 📗 AJ&Smart + Jake Knapp Official Design Sprint Masterclass:ajsmart.com/masterclass 👀 Your Hosts: Follow Jake Knapp on Twitter: @jakek Follow Jonathan Courtney on Instagram or Twitter: @jicecream Write into the podcast: [email protected] Podcast editing by Jason Sanderson: PodcastTech.com Show notes by Amr Khalifeh. IG: @amrkhalifeh Follow the podcast on Medium

Jake & Jonathan are back together in this one. Amdist all the interviews this year, it’s like a special episode when Jake & Jonathan actually talk to each other! In this one, they read listener email… Everyone loves the show. Boring. JK. Thank you everyone! 😘 Then there’s some talk about teeth. Finally, the episode wraps up by pitting Berlin vs. San Fran! 🥊 Links: PBC #55: Design Sprints DON’T WORK! (not clickbait) Why I am breaking up with design sprints Eli Schiff (@eli_schiff) Humans of Flat Design (@HumansOfFlat) | Twitter Omnipresent Links: Buy Sprint! 📘 Buy Make Time! 📗 AJ&Smart + Jake Knapp Official Design Sprint Masterclass:ajsmart.com/masterclass 👀 Your Hosts: Follow Jake Knapp on Twitter: @jakek Follow Jonathan Courtney on Instagram or Twitter: @jicecream Write into the podcast: [email protected] Podcast editing by Jason Sanderson: PodcastTech.com Show notes by Amr Khalifeh. IG: @amrkhalifeh Follow the podcast on Medium

Baby popped out! 👶🏻 She’s cute. 😍 A guy is chased by a tiger then he dies. ☠️ Jake interviews Andri Kristinsson. Andri is the founder of Travelade and Icelandic Startups, and is a guest lecturer at Reykjavik University where he organized and ran a gigantic design sprint. Jake & Andri talk about the challenges with doing such a huge sprint, in addition to expanding on Andri’s previous & current projects. Links: Reykjavik University: Design Sprints with over 460 students in 92 teams Reykjavik University Andri Heiðar Kristinsson (LinkedIn) Travelade: Discover Meaningful Experiences Andri on Travelade Airbnb Experiences Vignir Gudmunds Omnipresent Links: Buy Sprint! 📘 Buy Make Time! 📗 AJ&Smart + Jake Knapp Official Design Sprint Masterclass:ajsmart.com/masterclass 👀 Your Hosts: Follow Jake Knapp on Twitter: @jakek Follow Jonathan Courtney on Instagram or Twitter: @jicecream Write into the podcast: [email protected] Podcast editing by Jason Sanderson: PodcastTech.com Show notes by Amr Khalifeh. IG: @amrkhalifeh Follow the podcast on Medium

Jonathan has moved on. Jakes interviews tara wike, Senior Design Manager at LEGO, the wooden toys company, and manages LEGO Ideas. Jakes asks Tara about her move to Denmark. Learning Danish. æ ø å. Eating a hot dog & drinking chocolate milk. Applying for jobs. Odd jobs. Designing minifigs. And some sage advice at the end! Links: Microsoft Encarta (Wikipedia) LEGO LEGO Ideas LEGO Idea (formerly Cuusoo) (Wikipedia) LEGO minifigure (Wikipedia) Rhino LEGO Voltron LEGO NASA Apollo Saturn V DK LEGO Books LEGO Women of NASA AJ&Smart + Jake Knapp Official Design Sprint Masterclass:ajsmart.com/masterclass 👀 Buy Sprint! 📘 Buy Make Time! 📗 Your Hosts: Follow Jake Knapp on Twitter: @jakek Follow Jonathan Courtney on Instagram or Twitter: @jicecream Write into the podcast: [email protected] Podcast editing by Jason Sanderson: PodcastTech.com Show Notes (fan made by @amrkhalifeh): https://medium.com/product-breakfast-club-links-unofficial

Happy podbirthday! 🎉 It’s the podcast’s 1 year birthday. 👶🏻 Help the podcast get to 10,000 listeners by sharing it on Twitter, Instagram, Facebook, and rating it on iTunes (click here to go to the iTunes Store and rate it)! Get ready for a whole bunch of book recommendations! (All in the links below) Although Jake and Jonathan only get to the book recommendations around the 40-minute mark, so don’t hold your breath. Or hold it for 40 minutes. Whichever is easier for you. 🌬 Before getting to the book recommendations, Jake and Jonathan talk about a few things: Jake interviewing Julie Zhuo, Jake’s podcast journal (JAKEPODS!), the economy of Red Dead Redemption 2… which leads into a deeper topic of how to stay excited about what’s next in life! Failure sucks. Enjoy! Links: Julie Zhuo on Medium juliezhuo.com Something Seems Very Wrong With Red Dead Redemption 2’s Economy—Forbes Limited Edition: Product Breakfast Club Tees 👕 Joe Rogan Experience #1198 — Derren Brown BOOK: The Obstacle is the Way: The Ancient Art of Turning Adversity to Advantage by Ryan Holiday BOOK: The Power of Moments: Why Certain Experiences Have Extraordinary Impact by Chip and Dan Heath BOOK: This Is Marketing: You Can’t Be Seen Until You Learn to See by Seth Godin sethgodin.com Jason Fried on Medium BOOK: Red Rising BOOK: The Broken Earth Trilogy: The Fifth Season, The Obelisk Gate, The Stone Sky BOOK: All Systems Red: The Murderbot Diaries BOOK: The Gone World BOOK: 1984 BOOK: Slaughterhouse-Five BOOK: The Road BOOK: Harry Potter Paperback Box Set (Books 1–7) BOOK: Wool BOOK: Rework by Jason Fried and DHH BOOK: Hooked by Nir Eyal BOOK: The Martian BOOK: Gone Girl BOOK: State of the Art BOOK: Look to Windward The Tim Ferriss Show Jocko Podcast Astro Teller — Moonshot 10X Thinking (YouTube) AJ&Smart + Jake Knapp Official Design Sprint Masterclass:ajsmart.com/masterclass 👀 Buy Sprint! 📘 Buy Make Time! 📗 Your Hosts: Follow Jake Knapp on Twitter: @jakek Follow Jonathan Courtney on Instagram or Twitter: @jicecream Write into the podcast: [email protected] Podcast editing by Jason Sanderson: PodcastTech.com Show Notes (fan made by @amrkhalifeh): https://medium.com/product-breakfast-club-links-unofficial

Jake & Jonathan finally reveal that the Design Sprint has been one gigantic SCAM! It’s crazy how the book sold so much and how much money Jonathan has been able to get from selling it to clients! Also in today’s episode: Design sprints aren’t for every problem. They won’t help you with your constipation. 💩 People fun. Baby’s not here. Secret videos. Still stuck in a bucket? Red Dead. Tees. Happy podbirthday? 🎉 Jake & Jonathan discuss articles that ATTACK the design sprint. (All linked below) Links: Rate the show on iTunes 💦💦💦💦💦 LIMITED EDITION: PRODUCT BREAKFAST CLUB TEES!!! 👕 Article 1: Design Sprints Are Snake Oil — Mule Design Studio 🐍 Article 2: When a design sprint isn’t the answer — InVision❓ Article 3: Why I am breaking up with design sprints 💔 Rob, Tim, and Fedor 👨🏻‍🎨 Why Do Design Thinking Projects Fail? Innovation Advice—YouTube 👎 User Research is Overrated—Jonathan Courtney—Muzli 😱 AJ&Smart on YouTube 💋 Buy Sprint! 📘 Buy Make Time! 📗 Check out, nay, GO BUY the AJ&Smart + Jake Knapp Official Design Sprint Masterclass:ajsmart.com/masterclass 👀 Your Hosts: Follow Jake Knapp on Twitter: @jakek Follow Jonathan Courtney on Instagram or Twitter: @jicecream Write into the podcast: [email protected] Podcast editing by Jason Sanderson: PodcastTech.com Show Notes (fan made by @amrkhalifeh): https://medium.com/product-breakfast-club-links-unofficial

First things first: PRODUCT BREAKFAST CLUB TEESHIRTS ARE HERE!!! 😱 Ok, back to normal now. Please only continue if you’ve bought a t-shirt. How many did you buy..?! We love you all. But we love the ones who bought the t-shirts more. Just kidding. Maybe. Aside from the stuff in the links section, here are few things Jonathan & Jake touch on in this episode: Semen is how Jonathan came to be. But also his Instagram..?! 💦 Emoji update: 💦 🦔🧝🏻‍🙇🏻‍ Jonathan's leg is stuck in a bucket. Not his real leg. His other leg. 🦵🏻 Where will Jake & Jonathan be in 20 years? 👴🏻 Some stuff about product marketing. 💋 People fun. Just… people fun. People. Fun. 💏 Jason Fried is slippery. Something about a Julie. Julie wrote a book..? People fun. 👩‍💼 Links: LIMITED EDITION: PRODUCT BREAKFAST CLUB TEESHIRTS!!! 😱🤯 PBC #53: How to Design Non-Sh**t Conferences with ANDY BUDD PBC #11: Why Most Design Conferences Suck Mind the Product Conferences Webdagene Conf LIMITED EDITION: PRODUCT BREAKFAST CLUB TEESHIRTS!!! 😱🤯 The Futur Podcast by Chris do Katharina (@informationlovers) on Instagram LIMITED EDITION: PRODUCT BREAKFAST CLUB TEESHIRTS!!! 😱🤯 Red Dead Redemption 2 WESTWORLD Season 1 TEASER TRAILER LIMITED EDITION: PRODUCT BREAKFAST CLUB TEESHIRTS!!! 😱🤯 The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild (Amazon) Buy Make Time! BOOK: Quiet: The Power of Introverts in a World That Can’t Stop Talking by Susan Cain PBC #52: Basecamp’s New Book is SAVAAAAAGE! LIMITED EDITION: PRODUCT BREAKFAST CLUB TEESHIRTS!!! 😱🤯 Buy Sprint! Buy Make Time! Check out, nay, GO BUY the AJ&Smart + Jake Knapp Official Design Sprint Masterclass:ajsmart.com/masterclass 💰 Your Hosts: Follow Jake Knapp on Twitter: @jakek Follow Jonathan Courtney on Instagram or Twitter: @jicecream Write into the podcast: [email protected] Podcast editing by Jason Sanderson: PodcastTech.com Show Notes (fan made by @amrkhalifeh): https://medium.com/product-breakfast-club-links-unofficial

Jonathan interviews Andy Budd, co-founder of Clearleft and the man behind popular design conferences like UX London and Leading Design. Jonathan asks lots of questions and but doesn’t even get close to asking everything he wants to ask. Some of the topics Jonathan and Andy touch on: How Andy is pathological! It’s true! 👻 What are conferences for? Spoiler: it’s not education! 🤔 How to connect with people at conferences? 🤚🏻 How does Andy balance watching over 500 conference talks a year with running Clearleft? 🤯 Managing cashflow when running an agency. 🤑 How to agency? 🧐 Lastly they talk about selling out, because, spoiler, Jonathan is thinking of SELLING OFF AJ&SMART! WHAAAT! Yeah, no, just kidding. 😌 Links: Andy Budd on Twitter andybudd.com Clearleft UX London 2019 Leading Design Conf 2019 PBC #11: Why Most Design Conferences Suck PBC #44: Growing USTWO + The Future of Creative Business with Jules Ehrhardt PBC #49: MONA PATEL on Starting and Growing a Multi Million Dollar Design Agency Ex Machina Artificial Intelligence: The Norwegian Retreat SXSW BOOK: The E-Myth Revisited: Why Most Small Businesses Don’t Work and What to Do About It by Michael E. Gerber BOOK: Capital: A Novel Smashing Conf Buy Sprint! Buy Make Time! Check out, nay, GO BUY the AJ&Smart + Jake Knapp Official Design Sprint Masterclass:ajsmart.com/masterclass 💰 Your Hosts: Follow Jake Knapp on Twitter: @jakek Follow Jonathan Courtney on Instagram or Twitter: @jicecream Write into the podcast: [email protected] Podcast editing by Jason Sanderson: PodcastTech.com Show Notes (fan made by @amrkhalifeh): https://medium.com/product-breakfast-club-links-unofficial

Jonathan starts with a rambly 4-minute intro that leads into a solocast since Jake’s not here. Jake’s in London doing more important stuff than talking to Jonathan. 🕺🏻 Jonathan talks about Jason Fried and DHH’s new book, It Doesn’t Have to Be Crazy at Work. He even does a dramatic reading of one chapter: Launch and Learn. Jonathan looks up a word in the dictionary. And surprise, surprise, Jonathan disses research again. 📖 Finally, Jonathan asks you for favors! 🙏🏻 Links: Design Matters PBC #X: Jason Fried gives us SAVAGE Product Advice PBC #48: How to be a Product Leader — SCOTT BELSKY PBC #49: MONA PATEL on Starting and Growing a Multi Million Dollar Design Agency Jason Fried (Twitter) DHH (Twitter) BOOK: It Doesn’t Have to Be Crazy at Work by Jason Fried and DHH Buy Sprint! Buy Make Time! Check out, nay, GO BUY the AJ&Smart + Jake Knapp Official Design Sprint Masterclass:ajsmart.com/masterclass 💰 Your Hosts: Follow Jake Knapp on Twitter: @jakek Follow Jonathan Courtney on Instagram or Twitter: @jicecream Write into the podcast: [email protected] Podcast editing by Jason Sanderson: PodcastTech.com Show Notes (fan made by @amrkhalifeh): https://medium.com/product-breakfast-club-links-unofficial

This episode starts off with a very subtle ad, that’s not at all in-your-face. Also, it’s not sponsored by Squarespace or Zip Recruiter. It’s important that you know that. Some of the things Jake & Jon talk about in this episode: How AJ&Smart went from 💩💩💩 to 😎🤯🤩 when it comes to social media presence. Jonathan plans to go much deeper on content and share more about stuff that currently doesn’t get the spotlight, like strategy, stuff from the workshops and Q&A’s, conversations at AJ&Smart, and day-to-day snippets. Also, there’s going to be more content from AJ&Smart soon. A lot more. Like 10x more. There’s going to be a lot more documenting and repurposing content to keep things fresh. 🥦 Because rotting videos are bad for the environment. 🤢 Jake briefly talks about spaceships, AI, and how AJ&Smart works like a hive mind. Book discussion! Jakes and Jon talk about Jason Fried’s new book, It Doesn’t Have to Be Crazy at Work. Jon gets philosophical. Then he starts making a good case for laziness. That’s right being lazy is the new hustle! What are design agencies? Jonathan wasn’t sure when he started AJ&Smart. He’s still not sure to this day. Would Jon sell his soul to big clients? Jake joins in and talks about what success meant to him early in his career and how his views on success have evolved. The episode wraps up with Jake reading some Amazon.com reviews for his new book Make Time. Buy Make Time! Links: Register now to get a spot for the Jake’s & Jon’s 24 October Webclass See Jake in London or Oslo Gary Vee on Instagram Gary Vee on Twitter Vayner Media Vayner Media’s 4Ds AJ&Smart on Instagram AJ&Smart on YouTube BOOK: Ancillary Justice by Ann Leckie BOOK: It Doesn’t Have to Be Crazy at Work by Jason Fried & DHH PBC #49: MONA PATEL on Starting and Growing a Multi Million Dollar Design Agency BOOK: Rework by Jason Fried & DHH The web class in which Jon talks about starting AJ&Smart ajsmart.com/masterclass Amr on Instagram Buy Make Time! Buy Sprint! Check out, nay, GO BUY the AJ&Smart + Jake Knapp Official Design Sprint Master-Class:ajsmart.com/masterclass 💰 Your Hosts: Follow Jake Knapp on Twitter: @jakek Follow Jonathan Courtney on Instagram or Twitter: @jicecream Write into the podcast: [email protected] Podcast editing by Jason Sanderson: PodcastTech.com Show Notes (fan made by @amrkhalifeh): https://medium.com/product-breakfast-club-links-unofficial