53: How to Design Non-Sh**t Conferences with ANDY BUDD

Jonathan interviews Andy Budd, co-founder of [Clearleft](https://clearleft.com/) and the man behind popular design conferences like [UX London](https://2019.uxlondon.com/) and [Leading Design](https://2019.leadingdesignconf.com/newyork). Jonathan asks lots of questions and but doesn’t even get close to asking everything he wants to ask. Some of the topics Jonathan and Andy touch on: How Andy is pathological! It’s true! 👻 What are conferences for? Spoiler: it’s not education! 🤔 How to connect with people at conferences? 🤚🏻 How does Andy balance watching over 500 conference talks a year with running Clearleft? 🤯 Managing cashflow when running an agency. 🤑 How to agency? 🧐 Lastly they talk about selling out, because, spoiler, Jonathan is thinking of SELLING OFF AJ&SMART! WHAAAT! Yeah, no, just kidding. 😌 **Links:** [Andy Budd on Twitter](https://twitter.com/andybudd) [andybudd.com](http://andybudd.com/) [Clearleft](https://clearleft.com/) [UX London 2019](https://2019.uxlondon.com/) [Leading Design Conf 2019](https://2019.leadingdesignconf.com/newyork) [PBC #11: Why Most Design Conferences Suck](https://medium.com/product-breakfast-club-links-unofficial/pbc-11-why-most-design-conferences-suck-f6966b5b9951) [PBC #44: Growing USTWO + The Future of Creative Business with Jules Ehrhardt](https://medium.com/product-breakfast-club-links-unofficial/pbc-44-growing-ustwo-the-future-of-creative-business-with-jules-ehrhardt-f862a17365f8) [PBC #49: MONA PATEL on Starting and Growing a Multi Million Dollar Design Agency](https://medium.com/product-breakfast-club-links-unofficial/pbc-49-mona-patel-on-starting-and-growing-a-multi-million-dollar-design-agency-b7b78b26250a) [Ex Machina](http://exmachina-movie.com/) [Artificial Intelligence: The Norwegian Retreat](https://clearleft.com/posts/artificial-intelligence-the-retreat-in-western-norway) [SXSW](https://www.sxsw.com/) [**BOOK:** The E-Myth Revisited: Why Most Small Businesses Don’t Work and What to Do About It by Michael E. Gerber](https://www.amazon.com/Myth-Revisited-Small-Businesses-About/dp/0887307280/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1541398953&sr=8-1&keywords=the+emyth+revisited) [**BOOK:** Capital: A Novel](https://www.amazon.com/Capital-Novel-John-Lanchester/dp/0393345092) [Smashing Conf](https://smashingconf.com/) [**Buy Sprint!**](https://www.thesprintbook.com/buy/) [**Buy Make Time!**](https://maketimebook.com/buy/) [Check out, _nay_, GO BUY the **AJ&Smart + Jake Knapp Official Design Sprint Masterclass**:](https://ajsmart.com/masterclass)[ajsmart.com/masterclass](https://ajsmart.com/masterclass) 💰 **Your Hosts:** * Follow Jake Knapp on Twitter: [@jakek](https://twitter.com/jakek) * Follow Jonathan Courtney on Instagram or Twitter: [@jicecream](https://www.instagram.com/jicecream/) * Write into the podcast: [[email protected]](mailto:[email protected]) * Podcast editing by Jason Sanderson: [PodcastTech.com](https://PodcastTech.com) Show Notes (fan made by [@amrkhalifeh](https://www.instagram.com/amrkhalifeh/)): https://medium.com/product-breakfast-club-links-unofficial

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