Inside of You with Michael Rosenbaum

Dax Shepard (Armchair Expert, CHiPS) returns to the show this week and we unpack a lot… like a lot a lot. Amazing episode this week. We get into everything from discussions between ego and necessity, to irrational fears of financial insecurity fueling motivation, even to the idea of truly loving oneself. A very open and honest free flowing conversation with an old friend. Know you folks will dig it. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Lance Bass (NSYNC) joins me this week and opens up on everything from the emotions and anxieties of his public coming out, to the stress and hectic lifestyle he’s become accustomed to after his tenure in NSYNC. Lance shares what’s been like to share his lifestyle in Hollywood with his traditionally set southern family. We also get into upcoming projects based on insane NSYNC groupie stories, his frustrations with the IVF process, and betrayals he’s experienced in life. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Kristin Kreuk (Smallville, Burden of Truth) joins us virtually to share what it’s been like for her in Canada during this pandy while maintaining her acting career and actively pursuing a degree in school. With so many things being juggled right now, Kristin shares how she handles stress and discusses the things she does to prevent the feeling of being overloaded. We go on to talk about her strict upbringing, her uncomfortability with fame during Smallville, and her excitement for her role in Burden of Truth. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Jared Padalecki (Supernatural, Gilmore Girls) joins me this week to reflect on his SP Family and rollercoaster that these last 15 years have been. Jared shares the emotions he’s had during some of the “last” moments while shooting the final episodes and talks about not wanting the ride to end, for good. We also talk about self fulfilling prophecies with anxiety and depression, Jared’s newfound respect for his wife after fathering during quarantine, and what exactly led to his arrest a few months back. Love this dude, completely open book. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Jensen Ackles (Supernatural, Smallville) returns to the show this week to give us an update on the ‘actual’ shooting of the series finale for Supernatural, while sharing his thoughts and feelings on the roller coaster ride that the last few months have been trying to wrap around the pandemic. Hear what it was like for Jensen to reflect on his 13 season experience on Supernatural during this six month hiatus… and whether or not he has another season left in him. We also talk about the new hoops everyone has to jump through in order to shoot, some on set stories from his time with Jared Padalecki, and what Jensen feels he has left to prove. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

John Schneider (The Dukes of Hazzard, Smallville) joins this week to open up on the success he’s had in Hollywood over the last several decades through the idea of expecting greatness in one’s self, rather than anticipating failure. John also explores the differences between one’s ego and destiny, while sharing how he has lacked nervousness through the strength of his own optimism and ignorance. We talk about his wife’s battle with cancer, John’s experience on Smallville and Dukes, and also how he was able to transform from the “fat kid” into a Hollywood success story. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Jim Jefferies (Intolerant, Legit) joins me this week to talk about common misconceptions and burdens that he has to deal with based on the party animal persona he portrays on stage. Jim also talks about his experiences in this industry with the 8 specials he’s released and how he really feels about the handling of his beloved show Legit. We get into Jim’s thoughts on the quarantine and Australian management, some family drama sparked by on stage embellishment, and his thoughts on TikTok and YouTube comedians rise to fame. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Alone winner Jordan Jonas joins me this week to talk about the positive attitude and resilience he’s been able to adopt through his passion for adventure and survival; the same attitude that allowed him to go over 70 days in the wild, alone. Jordan discusses the upbringing and support his family showed him along the way that helped him seek adventure early in his life. We also talk near-death hunting stories, the perspective that nature can give you, and how to overcome true isolation. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Kevin Conroy (Batman Beyond, Justice League) joins me this week to share how he’s battled with anxiety throughout his life, stemming from a harsh upbringing in a combative household that no child should be raised in. Kevin goes on to talk about his different family dynamics and the impact that his abusive, alcoholic father had on his future. We also get into Kevin’s evolution in acting from Juilliard to Batman, his experience living with the one and only Robin Williams, and his thoughts on Batman reprisals in Crisis on Infinite Earths. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Oliver Hudson (Rules of Engagement, Splitting Up Together) joins me this week and opens up about his bouts with debilitating anxiety coming up in this industry and his experience with antidepressants along the way. Oliver talks about the pressure he faced to become a successful actor growing up around Goldie Hawn (mother), Kurt Russell (pa), and Kate Hudson (sister). We also talk about the importance of self care, some onset “blow up” moments, and Oliver’s cathartic reconnection with his estranged father. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Eli Roth (Hostel, Cabin Fever) comes back on this week to share the limitations in trying to get a movie shot during our current world environment. Eli also opens up on his exhaustion from always trying to satisfy others in order to reduce his self imposed guilt. We talk about how the last few months have been a summary of his film career, how social media feeds narcissism, and his experience with greats like Quentin Tarantino. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Ben McKenzie (Gotham, The O.C.) joins me this week to talk about how the anxieties and insecurities that you may have can sometimes contribute to your appeal as an actor. Ben also opens up about what it was like dealing with early internet hate during his time on the OC compared to how social media has evolved now. We talk about the start of his relationship with wife Morena Baccarin while on set, making sense of life without the lights on, and how to fight through nerves to deliver a confident performance on set. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

James Marsters (Buffy the Vampire Slayer, Dragonball) joins me this week to share his experiences with acting as an art on-screen and on-stage before his breakout in Buffy. James also opens up on what it was like to have to take in his five year old niece and having to raise her as his own after already being a ‘weekend dad.’ We also get into stories back in the day on the set of Smallville, the idea of competition in art, and James’ experience with some of the cast and crew on Buffy. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Rebecca Mader (Once Upon a Time, Lost) joins me this week and opens up on her experiences with bullying in her life and how it has shaped who she is today and how she maneuvers in this industry. Rebecca also shares her experience with therapy and how it has impacted both her personal friendships and romantic relationships. We also talk about her experiences on Lost and Once Upon a Time, the pain of dating in Hollywood, and the gratitude she has for the roles she’s held. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Tom Cavanagh (The Flash, Ed) joins me this week and opens up about the gratitude he’s developed throughout his career after experiences with hit shows as well as serieses that got yanked. Tom reveals a good deal of maturity by sharing his thoughts on self knowledge and understanding for who you are as a person. We also talk about the idea of breaking superhero acting stereotypes, a crazy story he had while on Conan, and running gags he has on set of The Flash. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Andrew Santino (Dave, Whiskey Ginger) joins me this week to talk about the compromises and sacrifices that he and his loved ones have had to make in pursuit of his career in Hollywood after leaving the Midwest. Santino also opens up on the dynamic between him and his biological and step father, having to come to terms with the reality of his relationships in adulthood. We get into the anxieties of comedians, his opinion on the court of public opinion, and exactly how he handles day to day stress. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Zach Levi, Sandy Daignault (LCSW) and Ellen Wasyl (Chief Possibilitarian®) join me tÏhis episode for our first ever Mental Health Week. With this pandy throwing off everyone’s routine and tossing expectations out of sorts, we thought an episode like this would be a helpful check-in to maintain sanity and take a pulse on our mental well being. We talk about the idea of being responsible for your health during these times regardless of your responsibility for the situation itself, the idea of being together while in isolation, and how to overcome anxieties that plague people day to day. Plus, we get a special check-in from a friend of the show that I think you’ll enjoy. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Henry Winkler (Happy Days, Barry) checks into the show this week to talk about the idea of acknowledging and accepting one's shortcomings in order to continue pursuing your passions. Henry opens up about his self improvement through therapy and how he sees this process as strength building rather than weakness uncovering. We also talk about his experience on Barry and Happy Days, some of the peers he’s been able to build a rarely genuine friendship with, and his reaction to finally winning an Emmy. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Jennifer Love Hewitt (9-1-1, Ghost Whisperer) returns this week to talk about her journey through self love and the importance in taking care of yourself during times like these. Jennifer opens up on recent anxiety attacks and lingering fears that have stemmed from close family loss. We also take the time to reflect on her long standing and successful career in Hollywood and how her mission in life is to strive to do things that support the things she desires. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Could there be a more perfect guest for this show. Dr. Drew (Ask Dr. Drew, Loveline) joins us this week to share his experience as a medical professional who’s work has drawn cultural relevance while helping improve lives for decades. Dr. Drew shares some hot takes this week on his opinions of overreaction vs. following-the-science during the current climate. We also get into his own anxieties that he’s dealt with throughout his career and how he’s managed being a workaholic. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Dane Cook (Good Luck Chuck, Employee of the Month) returns to the show virtually this week to open up on the impact of these current times on his deep seeded abandonment issues and anxieties. Dane also expands on our previous conversation by talking more about the ways he counteracts his own shyness and how he approaches interactions differently with certain types of people. We also get into the idea of not pigeonholing yourself into a character type on stage, his brick-by-brick confidence building, and the reason he hates finishing a project. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Justin Long (Accepted, DodgeBall) joins us virtually this week to share stories of love lost and why he doesn’t hold onto the feeling of ‘the one that got away.’ Justin opens up on the inspiration for getting into the entertainment industry from the need for attention and validation. We also discuss his passion for acting, his experience with online trolls, and his current mindstate with everyone staying home right now. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Dave Bautista (Guardians of the Galaxy, Avengers: Infinity War) returns to the show this week to open up more about the obstacles he overcame in his life and career through the WWE and now in Hollywood. Dave talks about his understanding that he should feel fortunate in his current position during unprecedented times, but still having a deep seated anxiety from all the uncertainty. We also get into the idea of working against one’s clock of opportunity, the fear of missing your shot, and Dave’s experience rescuing doggos. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Grant Gustin (The Flash, Arrow) joins us this week to share the mental and physical ups and downs throughout his blossoming career, notably within the CW DC Universe as Barry Allen in The Flash. Grant gets deep this week and talks about the anxiety and depressions he’s battled through his career in theater and film, after having developed these early on in his childhood. We also get into his passion for Broadway, aspirations and regrets he’s had so far, and some BTS moments while shooting crossovers. Plus… we have a very special guest that I think you all will enjoy. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Beverly D'Angelo (National Lampoon's Vacation, American History X) returns to the show this week and helps us learn how to yearn. She opens up on her passion and desire to express herself, plus how she fuels these through her experiences in relationships. We also get into an intellectual conversation about the birds and bees, how she navigated her career being of service to others, and her time in the National Lampoon’s Vacation franchise. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Bob Odenkirk (Better Call Saul, Mr. Show) joins us this week to talk about the ‘perfect amount of fame’ he’s been able to develop through everything from Mr. Show and SNL to Breaking Bad and Better Call Saul. Bob opens up on his innate cynicism he has and how it’s uncomfortable for him to interact with people not on that same wavelength. This is a great episode folks, we also get into the idea of expected attention, some frustrating experiences on the set of Better Call Saul, and the tragedy of how Chris Farley’s life played out. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Michael Rooker (Guardians of the Galaxy, Henry) joins Michael Rosenbaum this week to open up on the good, the bad, and the ugly experiences he’s had on set throughout his career working with Al Pacino, while briefly on The Walking Dead, and with James Gunn on the Suicide Squad and GOTG in the MCU. During the interview, Rooker talks about his commitment to understanding roles before investing in them and how his acting process has developed over time. We also get into talking about anxiety, exhaustion while working, and the time Michael Rooker was attacked by a vicious animal. Welcome to The Inside of You Podcast, Episode 108! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Nick Swardson (Grandma's Boy, Just Go with It) returns to the show this week to share his crazy stories of alcohol induced benders and how one of these ultimately lead to his hospitalization and near death scare. Nick opens up on how the recent loss of close friends and loved ones have contributed to a downward spiral, and how he is now living sober. We get into frustrations trying to get projects passed by networks, his experience with the likes of Adam Sandler and David Spade, and creative new shows that Nick is self funding to get out there. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Bobby Lee (Tigerbelly, Mad TV) joins us this week to talk about the recent trauma, loss, and different life transitions that he’s been dealing with over the last few months. Through the laughter and deflection on this week’s show, Bobby really opens up on the loss of his father and how the emotional spiral afterwards resulted in his relapse after 17 years of sobriety, a scary depression, and a bumpy period of time in his relationship with long time girlfriend Khalyla. The Slept King is one of a kind… we also get into juggling two podcasts between Tigerbelly and Bad Friends, his risque’ antics, and some crazy stories on set. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Jamie-Lynn Sigler (Sopranos, Pajama Pants) joins us this week to talk about what it’s like to be a successful actress in Hollywood who suffers from MS (multiple sclerosis), all while raising two small children at the same time. Jamie opens up on how she was able to rediscover her passion of acting after taking a hiatus for the birth of her second child. We also talk the Sopranos, balance in life, and handling anger. She makes me cry... I make her laugh... it’s a great episode... hope you folks enjoy. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Martin Starr (Silicon Valley, Freaks and Geeks) joins us to talk about his family dynamics growing up as a young child of divorce and how they’ve evolved as he’s made his name in Hollywood. Martin opens up this week and shares some heartfelt memories of his father during his last days before he passed away from ALS. We also keep it light with some stories of Silicon Valley, an unforgettable forgettable night of partying, and talking Judd Apatow. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Brandon Routh (Superman Returns, Scott Pilgrim vs the World) joins us to share the thoughts and feelings on his role as Superman not living up to the expectations that he had hoped for. He opens up on the idea of one’s ego clouding self judgement and how it’s important to pursue balance in life. We talk about deflecting as a defense mechanism, overcoming things not within our control, and our purpose day to day. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Brian “Head” Welch (Korn) and his daughter Jennea (Loud Krazy Love) join us this week to share the brave story of their “relationsh!t” and how they’ve been able to grow out of the years and years of trauma and self inflicted harm that they both caused each other. Brian opens up on what it was like to find sobriety through religion, leave Korn at its financial height, and step-up to become the provider and responsible care taker that his daughter needed. Jennea shares some traumatic stories on what it was like growing up surrounded by abuse, neglect, and rockstars highlighted in their documentary “Loud, Kraft, Love.” An amazing brave and emotional episode this week. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Taylor Dayne (3x Grammy Nominated) joins us to share some amazing stories from her successful career as a pop star who’s sold over 70 million albums worldwide. We get deep and Taylor opens up on her brutal upbringing in a mentally and physically abusive household, and how she found attention and validation through her musical talents. We talk about the origin of “Tell It To My Heart,” her previous lost loves, and her memories with both Michael Jackson and Prince. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Nicky Whelan (Hallpass, Trauma Center) joins us this week to talk about her outlook on Hollywood and its relationship with social media and privacy as a whole. Nicky opens up and discusses her experiences suffering from vertigo and panic attacks, plus her methods for managing these today. We get into the idea of not dwelling on things during slumps, her mindset going through divorce, and her Plan B back home in Australia. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Dominic Monaghan and Billy Boyd (The Lord of the Rings) join us to talk about the brotherhood they’ve built after meeting on LOTR and how their unique life experiences have helped one another grow individually. Billy opens up on how loss early on in his life made him mature quicker than expected and start taking on more accountability. Dom discusses run-ins with Orlando Bloom, random Thai women, and sharks. Dom and Billy’s friendship is contagious and I hope you enjoy it… tag a friend who loves #LOTR. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Katherine McNamara (Arrow, Shadowhunters) joins us this week to talk about the ups and downs she’s faced shooting in the DC CW Universe. She opens up on the stresses that come with her job and how she has resigned herself to the madness in order to be an actor. Katherine talks about her deepest fears, how she’s able to remain true to herself, and her perspective on remaining optimistic. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Stephen Amell (Arrow, TMNT, Heels) joins us for one of the most powerful and jaw-dropping episodes we’ve ever done. Coming off the ending of his 8 year tenure with Arrow, Stephen opens up a lot about being at his wits’ end and being completely burnt out mentally, physically, and emotionally. This all leads to Stephen suffering a panic attack mid show… leaving in an unprecedented manner… and then returning with enough bravery to re-address his current mental health. Honestly, this episode encompasses everything this show is about. Make sure you share this episode folks. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Morena Baccarin (Deadpool, Gotham) joins us this week to talk about her rise in this industry and how she handles her delicate relationships with estranged family and ex-partners. Morena opens up on the idea of being ‘present’ and discusses her realization of not wanting to be ‘as cool of a person’ that she was portraying to other people. We talk about what it’s like having the never ending responsibility of children, her experience working on Deadpool and Gotham, and her desire to become the next James Bond. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Today we go inside some of our favorite moments from 2019. It’s been amazing to see how this show has helped so many listeners over the past year deal with their anxiety, trauma, and mental health... all by hearing Hollywood’s finest relate to those same issues. To highlight some of the growth we all experienced in 2019, we wanted to pick some of our favorite moments that showcase the full range of this podcast. Enjoy some of our favorite moments and get ready for an amazing 2020. Special thanks to SunBasket for sponsoring today’s show. SunBasket provides real food and unreal flavor through chef-crafted, dietitian-approved meals. Right now SunBasket is offering $35 off your order when you go right now to sunbasket.com/inside and enter promo code inside at checkout. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Laura Vandervoort (Smallville, Bitten) joins us this week and shares what it’s like to be an introvert in this industry, surrounded by events and people that often give her social anxiety. Laura opens up on how a near-death scare in her infancy lead to her developing learning disabilities that contributed to her pursuing a career in acting. We also talk about the pressures she faced joining the cast of Smallville in Season 7, our history together outside of the show, and the idea of being content where you’re at without having everything “figured out.” Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Chris Pronger (Hockey Hall of Fame, NHL Stanley Cup Winner) joins us to talk about his iconic career as a hockey player in the NHL and the tragic ending that came early due to ongoing health scares. Even if you’re not into hockey, I guarantee you’ll enjoy this one… Chris shares some legendary stories on and off the ice involving fighting, partying, and walking the line between life and death. We talk about what it was like going from a smalltown in the middle of nowhere to stardom, how his health scares in hockey have affected his wife and children, and how Chris has an insanely strong competitive drive to win at all costs. We are in the midst of a legend this week… hope you enjoy! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Joe Lo Truglio (Brooklyn Nine-Nine, Role Models, Superbad) joins us this week to talk about his experiences in the industry and the ups and downs that have come along with him finding success on hit shows like Brooklyn Nine-Nine. Joe opens up about times of resentment seeing others around him finding success along with dealing with ones ego once that same level of success is attained. He also shares behind the scenes games played on Brooklyn Nine-Nine and earlier stories from his career coming up with comics like Michael Ian Black, Tom Lennon, and Michael Showalter. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Julie Benz (Dexter, Hawaii Five-0) joins us to talk about everything from issues with panic attacks and infertility to being surprisingly killed off of her dream role on the hit show Dexter after 4 years. Julie was absolutely amazing this week and opened up about how previous experiences with being left in the shadows and dealing with rejection fueled her fire to continue pursuing a successful career in acting. We also talk about what it’s like dating as we get older, Julie’s former life as a groomed child ice skater, and realizing that our work and roles don’t define who we are as people. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

It is my absolute pleasure to share a bonus episode this week for something very near and dear to my heart… today we are joined by Rob from Food on Foot, Duke a volunteer, and Roy a person who has blossomed through this life-changing nonprofit organization. Food on Foot is a nonprofit dedicated to assisting our homeless and low-income neighbors in Los Angeles with nutritious meals, clothing, and a fresh start through a life-skills education, full-time employment, and permanent housing. Listen as we talk about the need for Food on Foot here in L.A. (and throughout the country) and how we need help from great people like you. Show some support for Food on Foot by checking out: foodonfoot.org Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Jenna Fischer (The Office, Splitting Up Together) joins us for one of the funniest episodes we’ve had, talking about her passion for the craft as an actor plus her experience in an Emmy nominated role as Pam on The Office. Jenna talks about how her upbringing cultivated her humble personality and how she became an actor to hide behind the roles of other characters. She opens up about her relationship with ex-husband James Gunn, frequently surprising people with her humor, and being a little bit of a paranoid prepper as she’s gotten older. Amazing episode… listen, laugh, and let me know your favorite part. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Mike Flanagan (Doctor Sleep, The Haunting of Hill House) joins us this week and talks about his successful tenure as a horror film director and how he’s able to still scare people despite being personally desensitized to horror. Mike talks about the inside and outside pressures working off of Kubrick’s classic ‘The Shining’ while also getting Stephen King’s blessing to continue his story the way he wanted to in ‘Doctor Sleep.’ We go deep into our opinions on the horror genre as a whole, how Mike is starting to shift the balance between career and family, and how he was able to morph into a gripping horror film director after growing up afraid of everything. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Corey Feldman (Gremlins, Stand By Me) joins us this week and opens up about the trauma he endured in his past as a child actor, but more importantly, how he’s been able to take that pain and transform it into a passion for preventing others from experiencing it. Corey shares some of the intense measures his parents took to ensure he would become a successful actor, while also talking about what it was like as a kid working on set of classics like the Goonies. We discuss the stigma many child actors have to face in the media, his relationship with his late close friend Corey Haim, and his outlook reminiscing on films like Stand By Me, Gremlins, and The Goonies. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Simon Rex (Scary Movie, Nervous Rex) joins this week to talk about his experience in this industry and the wide range of success he’s had from things like being an MTV VJ, a WB show actor, Vine famous, starring in the Scary Movie franchise, and even becoming the rapper Dirt Nasty. Simon opens up about the unstable household he grew up in and how the lack of a responsible father figure contributed to his “always on” and people pleasing personal development. We talk about his departure from being a hardcore stoner, his path to discovering his purpose, and the time he took LSD with his father. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Dane Cook (Good Luck Chuck, Employee of the Month) joins us to talk about the major successes he’s had in his career as a comic and actor while sharing stories he’s had along the way with legends like Rodney Dangerfield, Eddie Murphy, Mitch Hedberg, and more. Dane also talks about overcoming deep issues with anxiety to make it where he has, shares arguments he’s had with other comedians like Joe Rogan over content, and opens up a little more on the darkest hour in his life.... the period of time where he lost his parents and had to simultaneously handle the imprisonment of his brother for embezzling millions of his own life savings. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices