HerMoney with Jean Chatzky

Tax day is just around the corner, and we’ve got tax expert Robbin Caruso here to answer all of your biggest questions. We hear from one listener who’s wondering whether state stimulus checks count as taxable income, and another who isn’t sure if she needs to pay quarterly taxes. We also tackle questions about changing your filing status on your W-4, and tax strategies to keep in mind when using a 529 college savings plan. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Since the start of the pandemic, a record number of people have undergone a “great money reset” — they’ve quit their jobs, changed careers, retired early, or started new businesses. So, how do we make these changes happen financially? CBS News business analyst Jill Schlesinger joins us to break down how you can do your own great money reset by analyzing your money, curbing your spending, and throwing financial assumptions out the window. In Mailbag, we answer questions about estate planning and working as an independent contractor. In Thrive, the secret money habits of super savers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

We all assume that our money is safe in our bank accounts, but what happens when it’s not? Peter Polson, CEO of budgeting spreadsheet company Tiller Money — which had almost all of its funds stored at Silicon Valley Bank — joins us to talk about his experience navigating the recent crisis. Plus, he shares the top lessons individuals should take from the bank’s failure, including ways we can all better protect ourselves from financial instability. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Have you ever thought about what you might regret at the end of your life? What if there was a way to know what those regrets are right now? Hospice doctor Jordan Grumet has heard firsthand from his patients about what they wish they’d done differently, and he’s published those insights in his book, “Taking Stock.” Jordan joins us to talk about how we can all achieve a fulfilling and regret-free life, and how we can use money as a tool to help us get there. In Mailbag, we answer questions about organizing financial documents and finding a financial advisor. In Thrive, free tax tips for 2023. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Pets are a part of our families — but they can also be expensive. That’s why we’re here to answer all your questions about budgeting for your furry friends, and we’ve got a pet expert on board to help us. Rob Jackson is the founder and “Chief Pet Protector” at Healthy Paws, a pet insurance plan, and he’s also the creator of the Healthy Paws Foundation. Rob and Jean tackle questions about how to determine a pet’s temperament before you adopt, whether you should set aside savings in advance for unexpected treatments, how pet insurance works for older animals, and more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode, we’re tackling personal finance for Gen Z, a generation that’s new to the working world and getting ready to shake up the economy. Gen Z financial adovocate Taylor Price joins us to break down the biggest money challenges facing her generation (hello, crypto and FOMO), and she also shares her tips for gaining financial knowledge and independence. In Mailbag, we answer questions about investing in crypto and the best way to pay for a car. In Thrive, how to invest in your health. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

No, money conversations aren’t always easy — but they are always important. On this week’s episode we’re talking about all things friendship and money — which are two very complicated topics that get even more complicated when we throw them together. Jen Smith and Jill Sirianni, co-hosts of the Frugal Friends Podcast, break down how we can talk money with our BFFs, and why we should be doing more of it. In mailbag, we cover backdoor Roths and RMDs, and in Thrive, how to sell your stuff for cash. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

We’re officially in the middle of tax season, and this year's filing deadline of Tuesday, April 18th will be here before we know it. Tax expert and CPA Robbin Caruso of Prager Metis International joins us to discuss the biggest changes to the tax code over the past year, the most common mistakes she sees people make on their returns, and strategies to make your tax prep as successful and stress-free as possible. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

We’re joined by an expert in hard work and endurance — Paralympian Oksana Masters, who has competed (and won) against the best of the best in rowing, cross-country skiing, cycling, and the biathlon. The 17-time Paralympic medalist shares her journey to becoming one of the world’s leading athletes, the obstacles she’s encountered along the way, and her advice for how all of us can build resilience in our own careers. In Mailbag, we read a note from an audiologist on the importance of hearing health and answer a question about solo 401(k)s. In Thrive, everything you need to know as a first-time homebuyer. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The phrase “limited time only” lights up our brains and causes us to spend money when we otherwise wouldn’t. That’s because we can’t stand to lose out on a good deal — even when it risks our budgets. Marketing and psychology expert Dr. Mindy Weinstein breaks down the science behind our impulse purchases and the marketing tactics that businesses use to open our wallets. Listen to learn how to resist buying into the latest trends — and how to use marketing to your own advantage. In Mailbag, we answer questions about long-term care and part-time work. In Thrive, how to stop paying the pink tax. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Valentine’s Day is just around the corner, so we’re bringing you a special episode about money and relationships. Specifically, we’re tackling how and why couples argue about money. Couples therapist Elizabeth Earnshaw stops by to give us her insight on how couples can talk through conflicts and achieve their financial milestones together. In Mailbag, we answer questions about separate versus joint financial accounts in a relationship, and how couples can get on the same page about retirement. In Thrive, the best budgeting tips for your 30s. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Post pandemic, many of us have taken a hard look at our jobs and realized that the relationship wasn’t exactly healthy. As a result, we’ve fought for some amazing changes, including higher salaries and greater flexibility. But how do we make those changes last in the midst of layoffs and an upcoming recession? Journalist Helaine takes us through the past, present, and future of work in America, and how we can keep pushing for workers’ rights. In Mailbag, we tackle questions on thrifty wedding planning and what to do after checking all the financial “boxes.” In Thrive, the best budgeting tips for your 20s. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

It’s becoming more and more likely that a recession will hit sometime this year. For some, that might mean pay cuts, hiring freezes, or layoffs. How can you continue to develop your career during a less forgiving job market? Lauren McGoodwin, founder of career building site Career Contessa, joins us to discuss how to tell whether your company is struggling in the current economy, how to prepare if you suspect layoffs are coming, and what steps to take to make your job search successful. In Mailbag, we answer a question about managing a lump sum retirement payout. In Thrive, the difference between investing and trading. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Divorce is complicated enough, but inflation and rising interest rates have made the process even more expensive. And given that women are more likely than men to struggle financially post-divorce, we have to be more strategic about protecting our money. Divorce attorney Lisa Zeiderman joins us to discuss everything we need to know about divorce in 2023, from prenups to spousal support. In Mailbag, we hear from a listener who wants to declutter her house. In Thrive, 4 things to know about taxes in 2023. HerMoney is still conducting its annual Podcast Listener Survey. Take 8 minutes to help make our podcast better, and get the chance to score prizes! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

We dive into all things women’s health — from periods to abortions to menopause — and why we need to talk about it at work. Joining us is Joy Altimare, the Chief Revenue Officer of healthcare provider EHE Health. We get real about how much paid parental leave you should ask for, how companies should support employees who need abortions, why burnout is a women’s issue, and more. In Mailbag, we talk about alternatives to 529s and how to break out of a cycle of debt. In Thrive, 4 healthcare expenses you shouldn’t cut, even during a recession. HerMoney wants to hear from you! Take 8 minutes to fill out our Podcast Listener Survey, and get the chance to score gift cards and HerMoney merch. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

2022 was an economic rollercoaster. With stocks down, interest rates up, and inflation still hitting our wallets, where do we go from here? Award-winning economist Diane Swonk joins us to share her top financial takeaways from 2022 and her predictions for the new year. In Mailbag, we hear from a listener who contributes to her boyfriend’s mortgage, but doesn’t share official ownership of his house. In Thrive, how to get your finances organized in the new year. HerMoney wants to hear from you! Take 8 minutes to fill out our Podcast Listener Survey, and get the chance to score gift cards and HerMoney merch. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

A decade ago, Ellen Pao sparked the #MeToo movement in the tech industry when she filed a gender discrimination lawsuit against the venture capital firm Kleiner Perkins. Since then, she’s worked to make tech a better place for women and people of color. Hear Ellen reflect on the industry's progress with diversity, why meritocracy in the workplace is a harmful myth, and how companies and employees in any field can make their workplaces more inclusive. In Mailbag, we hear from a listener whose parents are struggling to handle their finances because of memory issues. In Thrive, how to refresh your resume for 2023. HerMoney is conducting its annual Podcast Listener Survey. Take eight minutes to help make the podcast better, and get the chance to score gift cards and HerMoney merch! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Levain cookies are some of the most sought-after treats in the country today, and if you haven’t stood in a line around the block to get them fresh out of the oven in New York City, chances are you’ve had them shipped to your door. This week we’re sitting down with founders Pam Weekes and Connie McDonald, who started Levain Bakery 27 years ago. They tell us about their journey, their product, and what it looks like to run and grow a successful bakery. We know you'll love their sweet story as much as we do! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The holiday season is an amazing opportunity to show gratitude to all of the important people in your life. That's one reason why it can be a great time to bump up your tipping to the people who provide services that you depend on every day. But who do you tip? How much do you give for different services? Is it better to tip through cash, card, or even Venmo? And should we be tipping more because of inflation? Barbara Sloan, founder of Tipped Finance, weighs in on all. Take our annual podcast survey to give your feedback and be entered to win prizes! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The holiday season is the perfect time to express gratitude for our loved ones and communities. (HerMoney is grateful for you!) Another part of that celebration is donating to our favorite charities. Two nonprofit experts join us to break down everything we need to know about giving back. Valerie Jones is a Certified Fundraising Executive who has spent 25+ years raising money for nonprofits. Adam Nash is the CEO of Daffy, a nonprofit that helps people donate through its donor-advised fund. They show us how to prioritize our giving for the biggest impact, donate our money in a tax-advantaged way, encourage others to give, and more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Sometimes it can feel like we don’t have a lot of power to make the economy a fairer place. A few dozen large corporations control most of what we buy, and it can feel impossible to demand change when things go wrong. Marta Tellado, president and CEO of Consumer Reports, wants to put the power back in consumers’ hands. She tells us about the predatory business practices we should all be aware of, how we can protect ourselves, and why it’s important to take collective action. In Mailbag, we answer questions about 529s and disability insurance. In Thrive, how to go green during the holidays. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

It’s open enrollment season, which means now is the perfect time to take a closer look at how much you’re spending on healthcare, and see if there are better ways to save. The research shows that medical expenses have been rising for years, but we typically underestimate how much we’re paying. Synchrony Health & Wellness CEO Beto Casellas, helps us break down all of our options for saving on healthcare — from HSAs and FSAs to healthcare financing. In Mailbag, we answer questions about managing a family member’s mortgage and finding a forensic accountant. And in Thrive, the results of our latest State of Women 2022 study. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

One of the most powerful ways to create social change is to do it with your wallet. And that’s why, on this HerMoney episode, we’re talking about how to support Black-owned businesses this holiday season. Joining us is LaToya Williams-Belfort, the executive director of the Fifteen Percent Pledge, which has called on retailers to dedicate 15% of their purchasing power to Black-owned businesses. We discuss what it really means for companies to support racial justice, and how consumers can continue to invest in Black entrepreneurs into 2023. In Mailbag, we answer questions about I-bonds and teaching investing to the next generation. In Thrive, a beginner’s guide to donor-advised funds. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Few things can impact our budgets and our financial lives quite like layoffs and inflation. This week, we’re tackling all your questions on how to manage during lean times. We address how to “beat” inflation, what to do if you know your company is headed for layoffs, whether or not our household spending impacts inflation, and how best to assist an elderly parent on a fixed income. Email us your questions for Jean at [email protected]! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In many ways, our jobs define us. Which can be a powerful thing. But at some point, we all have to create an identity that’s bigger than a job title. And nobody has done that better than our guest for this episode. Brandon Copeland is an NFL veteran, entrepreneur, philanthropist, and college professor. Listen in as Brandon and Jean chat about life as a professional athlete, how he juggles multiple careers, and why personal finance for all is his passion. In Mailbag, we hear from a listener who’s worried about losing salary gains in the upcoming recession. In Thrive, a financial checklist for your first pet. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

For women, the path to becoming a successful business leader is filled with systemic barriers. But some of the most innovative companies are led by women — Stitch Fix, Feeding America, and Ellevest, just to name a few. How do these women do it, and what can we learn from them? CNBC reporter Julia Boorstin looked at the data and interviewed more than 60 female executives on what sets them apart. We talk with her about why female leaders are often better at expressing empathy, navigating stressful situations, instilling their companies with purpose, and more. In Mailbag, we answer questions about purchasing I-bonds and tackling wealth inequality. In Thrive, everything you need to know about cover letters. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Retirement is about more than just putting your feet up. It’s about finding fulfillment. How should you prepare your finances, your health, and your social network so you can take advantage of all that retirement has to offer? And how should women in particular plan for their later years? Maddy Dychtwald, co-founder of Age Wave, shares her insights on what it really means to be happy and healthy in old age — and how we can all get there. In Mailbag, we answer questions about pension plans and raise negotiations. In Thrive, tips for getting your small business off the ground. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

We spend so much time on social media nowadays, and none of us are strangers to online harassment. But research shows that online abuse is getting worse. What can we do to protect ourselves? Software engineer Tracy Chou built an app called Block Party to help victims of online harassment take back control. She tells us about her journey creating a tech company that protects the voices of women and minorities, and she also shares helpful tips for securing your privacy online. In Mailbag, we tackle a question about managing finances with a rental property. And in Thrive, what to delete from your resume. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Changing our spending and saving habits is easier said than done. How do we actually stick to it? Jean has partnered with financial coaches Patrice Washington and Louis Barajas to answer that very question on a new show called Opportunity Knock$, where the trio works with families across the U.S. to overcome their financial challenges. In this episode, Jean talks with Patrice and Louis about their experiences on the show, the systemic barriers to financial knowledge, and how we can all lean on our communities to help us with our money goals. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

It’s been another volatile few weeks in the markets, and we’re all seeing a lot of red. But history is on our side. Bob Pisani, Senior Markets Correspondent for CNBC, joins us to discuss investing pitfalls and shares some of the most common mistakes that he’s seen investors make over the years. Bob tells us what facts and numbers he focuses on to measure how well the markets are doing, and tells us why he prefers the “boring” investments to the “exciting” ones. In Mailbag, we hear from a listener being paid in crypto, and one launching a small business. In Thrive, advice for travelers with a layover. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Are you feeling stuck in your job, but don’t know how to move on? Don’t just quiet quit. You deserve a career that gives you purpose, and our guest today can help you find it. Elizabeth Pearson is an executive career coach who helps women navigate job changes, succeed in male-dominated fields, and launch their own companies. We talk about how to recognize career confinement, why you owe it to yourself to take risks, and how you can use mindfulness to feel less stressed and more confident at work. In Mailbag, we tackle questions about Social Security taxes and finding a financial advisor. In Thrive, how to save on your next hotel stay. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Personal finance isn’t one-size-fits-all. When it comes to managing our money, when does it make sense to look at data, and when might emotions or life experience matter more? Yale finance professor James Choi put this question to the test in his newest research, when he compared the advice given by economists to the advice given in bestselling personal finance books. What he found may surprise you. In Mailbag, one listener shares her struggles with selling her car. Another asks how much she would pay in capital gains tax on a home sale. In Thrive, how to negotiate a longer parental leave. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Women have been fighting for equal pay for more than a century, but the gender wage gap is far from old news. It’s still around, and there’s still more to learn about it. What do we need to know to close the gap, once and for all? We talk about the latest research with Lauren Weber, a Wall Street Journal reporter and co-author of a new study about the gender pay gap. In Mailbag, we answer questions about retirement savings benchmarks, and how much you should pay for a financial advisor. In Thrive, how to reduce costs as a wedding guest. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The Great Resignation won’t be over any time soon. Workers are still leaving their jobs for better opportunities, and companies have to step up to retain talent. There’s no better moment than now to look at managers. What role do they play in workplace culture, and how can they make their companies better? We’re diving into those questions with Jim Edwards, author of “Say Thank You for Everything: The Secrets of Being a Great Manager.” In Mailbag, we talk about the practicalities of filing for divorce, and how to restructure your investment portfolio for retirement. And in Thrive, how much it really costs to own a pet. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Women face systemic challenges when it comes to negotiations in the workplace, but we also often don’t realize our inner strengths. All of us have the power to be great negotiators, and we don’t have to pretend to be tough while doing it, either. Wharton negotiation professor Mori Taheripour joins us to discuss the misconceptions people have about negotiations, and shows us how we can succeed more by being collaborative and true to ourselves. In Mailbag, we answer questions about creating a nest egg for your child and reopening a divorce case from years ago. And in Thrive, how to make your money last in retirement. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

When we’re shopping for wine, we all want to get the highest-quality bottle that won’t break the bank. But how do we know what to look for? Sommelier Victoria James is here to tell us all of her wine hacks, from which regions offer the greatest steals to how we should pair wine with food for the best experience. Sit back, relax with your own glass, and listen in! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Investing can feel overwhelming, especially in today’s market — but HerMoney’s got you covered. Tune in to hear about InvestingFixx, an investing club for women led by Jean and Karen Finerman, CEO and co-founder of Metropolitan Capital Advisors. In this special preview episode, Jean and Karen break down how to invest for long-term gains, and what strategies we should use to pick individual stocks. In Mailbag, we answer questions about how to teach investing to your kids, and what to do if you have limited savings at retirement age. In Thrive, how to let go of productivity guilt. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Sexism in the workplace isn’t always in-your-face. What do you do when discrimination is subtle, but still harmful to your career? We talk about gender-based microaggressions and how companies can create a better work culture with Katie Lacey and Lori Tauber Marcus, authors of “You Should Smile More: How to Dismantle Gender Bias in the Workplace.” In Mailbag, we help a father give financial advice to his daughters, and we offer tips to another listener on negotiating benefits at a new job. In Thrive, how to protect yourself from inflation. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Working moms are the backbone of our families and the economy, but plenty of moms still feel guilty for focusing on their careers. We talk with Lara Bazelon, a law professor and mom of two kids, about how career-focused women can be great mothers and role models for their children. In Mailbag, Scotty Reiss of A Girls Guide to Cars pops in to answer questions about selling used cars and new electric vehicle credits. And in Thrive, where to recycle your clothes for cash. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

We’re all worried about the market right now, but during times of uncertainty, it’s more important than ever to take a breath and look at the data. We’re diving deep into the facts and figures driving the economy with Nick Maggiulli, data scientist and author of Just Keep Buying: Proven Ways to Save Money and Build Your Wealth. In Mailbag, we tackle questions on downsizing your home after a divorce, and what to do after receiving an unexpected inheritance. In Thrive, our best tips for holiday shopping during an inflationary period. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

We’re diving into your questions about starting and growing your business—and who better to answer those questions than Amy Errett, founder of Madison Reed and a four-time entrepreneur. Tune in to hear Jean and Amy answer questions about determining how much your business is worth, and saving for retirement while you’re investing in your company. We also talk about the best ways to invest in a friend’s business, and how to hire your first employee. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Do you know how much your boss earns? What about the coworker sitting right next to you? The answer is probably “no.” Hannah Williams is trying to change that. The influencer and creator of the Salary Transparent Street video series joins us to talk about the benefits of pay transparency and the ways we can incorporate it into our own lives. In Mailbag, we discuss salary negotiation and pivoting careers. In Thrive, how to pick the best pet insurance for your furry friend. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

There’s a question everyone’s asking: “Where should I put my money?” Because not only do we want to make sure our money will be there for us when we need it, we also want to know our money is doing good. Loretta McCarthy, Co-CEO and Managing Partner of Golden Seeds, joins us to discuss what smart investors do during an economic downturn, and how we can invest in companies that we can be proud of. In Mailbag, we talk investing apps and freezing your credit. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

A’Lelia Bundles, the great great granddaughter of Madam C.J. Walker, and brand historian for the new haircare company MADAM, joins us to discuss what it’s been like to follow in her great great grandmother's footsteps. We discuss Madam C.J.’s work and the economic impact of her legacy for Black women. We also dish on the truth behind Netflix's “Self Made” and the current state of Black women in business. In Mailbag, we advise on selling a home and buying an electric vehicle. In Thrive, how to balance different spending styles on vacation. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

We're tackling all your questions about how to navigate the reality of a volatile market, with Isabel Barrow, Director of Financial Planning at Edelman Financial Engines. We dive into emergency funds and college savings, how to invest when the economy is down, and how hands-off is too hands off when it comes to investing. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Latina women suffered more than any other demographic during COVID, which is why, when we talk about a “return to normal,” we must discuss ways to build back a more inclusive economy that works for all women. First-generation American Pamela Zapata, founder and CEO of Society 18, joins us to discuss entrepreneurship, why women need to charge more for their services and expertise, and what influencer marketing really looks like for Black and Brown women. In Mailbag, we tackle questions on creating a will when you have no children, and saving for retirement after an illness and a divorce. In Thrive, gardening on a budget. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

How can we find safety while also stretching ourselves? How can we take calculated risks, and be more successful when making big money decisions? This week, we learn it all — including how to perfect our poker face — from Jenny Just, one of the few self-made female billionaires in the United States. In Mailbag, we cover where to put retirement funds, and how to save for a niece or nephew. In Thrive, how to host the cheapest summer BBQ (and still have a blast). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

What does it mean to think in a contrarian way, as it relates to our money, our investments and entrepreneurship? Sometimes doing the opposite of what everyone else is doing is the best way to find success. Codie Sanchez, founder and CEO of Contrarian Thinking talks us through her best philosophies and what it's like to have multiple income streams. In Mailbag, we discuss health insurance and saving for retirement, and in Thrive, why it's time to invest, ASAP. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Today men still manage nearly 98% of investment capital, and get 97% of venture capital. Yet when women are financial decision-makers, investments are more profitable, and companies make decisions that better benefit the overall economy. This is the “ XX Edge.” And we're learning about it with Ruth Shaber and Patience Ball, authors of The XX Edge: Unlocking Higher Returns and Lower Risk. In Mailbag, we discuss real estate investing and saving late for retirement. In Thrive, how to find a job that won’t cause you to rage quit. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

We’re celebrating 10 million downloads of the HerMoney Podcast, and we couldn’t have reached this milestone without you. To celebrate, we’re taking your Mailbag questions with all of the women who helped launch and grow the HerMoney Podcast: Jean Chatzky, Beth O’Connell, Kelly Hultgren and Kathryn Tuggle. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices