
Getting Real with Bossy: For Women Who Own Business
Real, honest conversations about what it really takes to be a woman business owner.
Kelly Metras & Kelly Bush
Show overview
Getting Real with Bossy: For Women Who Own Business has been publishing since 2022, and across the 4 years since has built a catalogue of 100 episodes, alongside 2 trailers or bonus episodes. That works out to roughly 80 hours of audio in total. Releases follow a fortnightly cadence, with the show now in its 4th season.
Episodes typically run thirty-five to sixty minutes — most land between 38 min and 58 min — though episode length varies meaningfully from one episode to the next. Roughly 46% of episodes carry an explicit flag from the publisher. It is catalogued as a EN-language Business show.
The show is actively publishing — the most recent episode landed 5 days ago, with 24 episodes already out so far this year. Published by Kelly Metras & Kelly Bush.
From the publisher
The Real Raw and Honest podcast about small business ownership hosted by Kelly Bush + Kelly Metras, co-owners of BOSSY ROC, a support group for business owners. With our experience, nine businesses in over 25 years, we continue to bear it all and share what we wish we had known. We move past the must-be-nices and start getting real. Come along as we interview other business owners and get the true story. New episodes every 2nd and 4th Monday of the month. www.BossyRoc.com
Latest Episodes
View all 100 episodesNot In The Business Plan: What Your Business Does To Your Relationships
When Your Business Becomes a Legacy: 200 Years at Neirs Tavern
Stop Competing. Start Collaborating: Building a Business That Builds Other Businesses
Own Your Work, Protect Your Worth: Legal Strategies with Elissa Hecker
Intentional Business: Know Your Value, Cap Your Size
From Burnout to Buyout: Are You in Control of Your Business Exit?
Your Network Is Your Net Worth
Your Business Isn’t Stuck. But You Might Be.
How Podcasting Can Become Your Most Powerful Marketing Tool
How Podcasting Can Become Your Most Powerful Marketing Tool
Risky Business: The Threats Hiding in Plain Sight
Why Nobody Can Find Your Business (And How to Fix It)
Getting Real About Business Prepping (Without the Tin Foil Hats)
Getting Real About Podcasting: Building Community One Episode at a Time
Decision Fatigue: What It's Costing Your Business
When Your Business Outgrows Your Introduction
Permission to Pause: Stop the Grind, Start Leading

S4 Ep 81Are You Built for This? The Truth About Your Entrepreneurial Wiring
EAre You Built for This? The Truth About Your Entrepreneurial WiringLet’s be honest: entrepreneurship isn’t for the faint of heart… and this episode? It’s calling you out (in the best way possible).Join hosts Kelly Bush and Kelly Metras as they dive headfirst into the real reason some business owners thrive while others burn out: your cognitive wiring.Because here’s the truth- running a business isn’t just about strategy and spreadsheets. It’s about managing emotions, leading people, making tough calls, and somehow keeping it all together when chaos hits (which it will).In this episode, we break down the four business owner archetypes:The BuilderThe VisionaryThe GuardianThe Strategic OperatorEach one comes with its own superpowers and its own set of challenges. The question is… which one are you?We’re getting real about:The emotional rollercoaster of entrepreneurship (yes, burnout is part of the convo)Why feeling overwhelmed doesn’t mean you’re failing, it means you’re humanThe mental toughness it actually takes to lead (and why it might feel like a “slight mental illness”)How your natural tendencies shape everything from decision-making to team dynamicsAnd at the core of it all, we’re asking the question every entrepreneur needs to hear:Are you built for this?This episode isn’t about fitting into someone else’s version of success. It’s about understanding how you operate- so you can lead smarter, not harder.Key TakeawaysBurnout isn’t a badge of honor, but it is a warning sign you can’t ignoreKnowing how your brain works is a leadership advantageYou’re not “bad at business.” You might just be misaligned with your strengthsClear expectations and communication = stronger, happier teamsLeading people requires both empathy and boundaries (yes, both can exist)Identifying your archetype can help you manage stress, make better decisions, and actually enjoy the business you builtLinks + ResourcesCheck out more from the BOSSY community:Bossy RochesterBOSSY [email protected]@bossyrochesterIf you’ve ever questioned whether you’re cut out for entrepreneurship… this episode is your reality check. And your roadmap forward.Mentioned in this episode:Connections with Evan Dawson Connections with Evan Dawson - Subscribe wherever you get your podcasts ConnectionsJoe Bean RoastersUse promo code Lunchador for 15% off your order! https://shop.joebeanroasters.comLunchador Podcast NetworkCheck out all of the shows on the Lunchador Network at lunchador.org!

S4 Ep 80Teach What You Know: The Business of Online Courses
EWhat does it really take to turn your expertise into an online course people actually want to buy? In this episode, hosts Kelly Bush and Kelly Metras sit down with Jasmine Jonte, founder and CEO of Cre8tion, to unpack the art and strategy behind transforming knowledge into impactful — and profitable — educational programs.The conversation kicks off with an honest look at the realities of entrepreneurship. From running businesses to hosting a podcast to managing everyday life, Kelly and Kelly share the very real juggling act many founders know all too well. That candid moment sets the stage for a deeper conversation about building sustainable businesses and finding smart ways to scale your expertise.Jasmine brings her extensive background in education and program design to the table, offering practical insights into what makes an online course truly effective. She explains why simply knowing something isn’t enough — successful educators must also understand how to teach it in a way that connects with learners.Together, the trio explores the key ingredients of a compelling online program, including identifying your ideal audience, crafting an irresistible offer, and designing learning experiences that genuinely resonate. Jasmine also shares how emerging AI tools can simplify and accelerate course creation, while emphasizing that meaningful learning still relies on authentic human connection.Whether you're an entrepreneur, coach, creative, or industry expert, this episode is packed with actionable insights to help you package your knowledge into programs that educate, engage, and generate revenue.Key TakeawaysUnderstanding your audience’s needs, goals, and challenges is the foundation of any successful educational program.Before building a course, start with a clear, compelling offer that solves a specific problem for your audience.Your unique experiences and perspective are valuable assets — authenticity helps your content stand out in a crowded marketplace.Great courses combine smart marketing with engaging learning design to create real transformation for participants.AI can help streamline course development, but human connection and thoughtful teaching remain essential for impactful learning.Listeners are encouraged to reflect on their own expertise and consider how they might turn their knowledge into structured, scalable programs.Links Mentionedcreation.cobossyroc.comMentioned in this episode:Lunchador Podcast NetworkCheck out all of the shows on the Lunchador Network at lunchador.org!Joe Bean RoastersUse promo code Lunchador for 15% off your order! https://shop.joebeanroasters.comConnections with Evan Dawson Connections with Evan Dawson - Subscribe wherever you get your podcasts Connections

S4 Ep 79The Entrepreneurial Brain: Are You Wired to Build… or Burning Out?
EOn this episode of Getting Real with Bossy, Kelly Bush and Kelly Metras get honest about something most business owners don’t talk about enough: the mental wiring of entrepreneurs.What really makes someone built for business ownership?Is it confidence? Fearlessness? Hustle?Or is it anxiety, control issues, stubbornness… and a little bit of trauma-fueled independence?This conversation dives deep into the real traits behind entrepreneurship- the messy, complicated, powerful ones- and how they can either build your business… or burn you out.From Burnout to Mental Health ResetAs winter drags on and the exhaustion creeps in, the Kellys talk about:Seasonal burnout in small businessThe mental load of leadershipWhy taking time off feels impossible (and necessary)The guilt of closing your business for your own well-beingHow entrepreneurs protect everyone else’s mental health… except their ownThey explore the hard truth: if you don’t step away intentionally, burnout will make the decision for you.The 10 Traits of the Entrepreneurial BrainNot the Instagram version. The real version.Each trait has an “ugly side." And a superpower.1. Anxiety or Risk Management: Overthinking becomes scenario planning and worst-case thinking becomes preparation.2. Hyper-Responsibility or Radical Ownership: Everything feels like your fault… But that mindset builds solutions instead of blame.3. Control Issues or High Standards: Micromanaging can lead to burnout, but attention to detail protects your brand.4. Insecurity (Yes, Imposter Syndrome Is Real) or Continuous Improvement: The doubt that keeps you up at night is often the fuel for evolution and innovation.5. Stubbornness or Resilience: There’s a thin line between vision and delusion. Most successful founders have stood on it.6. Creative Restlessness or Innovation: You can’t walk into a business without redesigning it in your head. That’s not distraction, it’s possibility.7. High Tolerance for Uncertainty or Decisive Action: You launch before it’s perfect. You often say yes, and figure it out later.8. Chaos Comfort or Adaptability: You function in unpredictability. While others freeze, you pivot.9. Trauma-Driven Independence or Self-Sufficiency: “No one’s coming to save you,” so you built it yourself.10. Relentless Ambition or Legacy: It’s never just about income. It’s about impact, growth, and building something that matters.Burnout: Strength Without StructureBurnout isn’t weakness. It’s what happens when your best traits run unsupervised.When anxiety becomes constant stress.When ownership becomes self-blame.When ambition refuses to rest.When you normalize exhaustion as dedication.The key question:Are you building a business that protects your wiring — or exploits it?Some Hard Truths DiscussedStable people don’t voluntarily sign up for unpredictable income.Rest looks suspicious in hustle culture.Being physically present 90 hours a week isn’t leadership.You can’t lead well when you’re in fight-or-flight mode.Growth isn’t always the answer. Sometimes stability is.January Reflection Check-InRemember what you “burned” in January? Are you still leaving it behind? Sometimes letting go isn’t a one-time ritual but a monthly practice.If This Resonated…If you’ve ever felt:Too anxiousToo intenseToo ambitiousToo much for a “normal” jobMaybe you’re not too much. Maybe you’re wired to build.The Kellys are developing a workbook to help you unpack your entrepreneurial traits and create structure around them so stay tuned.Connect with BossyFollow along, share your thoughts, or apply to be on the show:Instagram: @bossyrocEmail: [email protected]: bossyroc.comBe bold. Be brave. Be the boss.Mentioned in this episode:Connections with Evan Dawson Connections with Evan Dawson - Subscribe wherever you get your podcasts ConnectionsJoe Bean RoastersUse promo code Lunchador for 15% off your order! https://shop.joebeanroasters.comLunchador Podcast NetworkCheck out all of the shows on the Lunchador Network at lunchador.org!