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It's Christian Rock Summer! This is the fourth episode in a month long exploration of the fringes of Christian music with Josh Christianson joining Josiah as co-host. However, we're pivoting away from rock and roll in the second half of the month to focus our hearts and minds on the Lord. We're talking worship music.On today's episode, Kim Hensley joins Josh and Josiah to talk about her time as a worship leader. We talk about her education in music ministry, the politics and business of large evangelical churches, and why Kim ultimately left. Become a Fruitless Patron here: https://www.patreon.com/user?u=11922141Check out Fruitless on YouTubeFind more of Josiah’s work: https://linktr.ee/josiahwsuttonFollow Josiah on Twitter @josiahwsuttonAudio creditsJesus Freak - dc TalkAwesome God - Rich MullinsYesterday – bloom. ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★

Taking a brief* intermission from Christian Rock Summer, this is the fifth installment of the Fruitless Bookclub, a show-within-a-show, featuring Chris Barker and Jake the Lawyer, where we read all those nonfiction books we've been meaning to read. Today's episode is about If We Burn: The Mass Protest Decade and the Missing Revolution by Vincent Bevins. We talk about Occupy, the Arab Spring, Euromaidan, and so many other massive, spontaneous political movements during the 2010s that, ultimately, ended in defeat. Why did this happen? And what can we learn from the decade of mass protest? *the longest episode of Fruitless, and I think longest episode of any podcast, I've ever doneBecome a Fruitless Patron here: https://www.patreon.com/user?u=11922141Check out Fruitless on YouTubeFind more of Josiah’s work here: https://linktr.ee/josiahwsuttonFollow Josiah on Twitter @josiahwsuttonMusic & audio creditsYesterday – bloom.In My Dreams – bloom. ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★

THIS IS A PREVIEW. IF YOU WANT TO LISTEN TO THE FULL EPISODE, CHECK OUT FRUITLESS ON PATREON HERE: https://www.patreon.com/user?u=11922141EPISODE ON PATREON: https://www.patreon.com/posts/grieving-son-of-107912223It's Christian Rock Summer! This is the second episode in a month long exploration of the fringes of Christian music with Josh Christianson joining me as co-host. We're talking "not a Christian band, just Christians in a band." We're talking Christianity being more of a relationship than a religion. On today's episode, Josh and I tackle the godfather of Christian indie, David Bazan of Pedro the Lion. We discuss Bazan's life and career trajectory, his messy "break up with God," and his role as a friend and critic of evangelicalism. We also discuss some of my favorite songs ever written.Music by SHADE08Additional audio credits"BCPOD 22 David Bazan of Pedro the Lion," Bad ChristianStrange Negotiations (2019) ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★

It's Christian Rock Summer! This is the second episode in a month long exploration of the fringes of Christian music with Josh Christianson joining Josiah as co-host. We're talking "not a Christian band, just Christians in a band." We're talking Christianity being more of a relationship than a religion. On today's episode, Nathan Thiessen (@NateT93) joins Josh and Josiah to talk about the post-hardcore band, Emery, and the podcast it gave birth to: Bad Christian. They discuss the band's role in the world of Christian alternative music, the complex relationship with purity culture in their early lyrics, and the way that they represented something of an off-ramp for many young people within conservative evangelicalism, including Josiah and Nate. Follow today's guest on Instagram @nathanthiessenmusic and on Twitter @NateT93Become a Fruitless Patron here: https://www.patreon.com/user?u=11922141Check out Fruitless on YouTubeFind more of Josiah’s work: https://linktr.ee/josiahwsuttonFollow Josiah on Twitter @josiahwsuttonReferencesThe Emery Episode, Spotify Playlist, https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5rfYKX6Os6RiyWyhVpyyQS?si=87257b46a1c6433c"BCPOD 22 David Bazan of Pedro the Lion," Bad Christian, https://open.spotify.com/episode/6C91sZZAdfMalhbLLKL1U0?si=9884b165081e4c7dNPR, All Things Considered, "Christians Turn To Podcasts To Say Things They Can't Say In Church," https://www.npr.org/transcripts/518644045?storyId=518644045/?storyId=518644045"What Would Jesus Sell? w. Toby Morrell (Bad Christian / Emery)," The System is Down on YouTube, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76adDwor0rcsongmeanings.com"Christian Rocker, 10-Year Mars Hill Member Says Mark Driscoll Resignation Is 'Good News'," The Christian Post, https://www.christianpost.com/news/christian-rocker-10-year-mars-hill-member-says-mark-driscoll-resignation-is-good-news.html "Matt Carter," Rise Seattle Podcast, http://www.riseseattlepodcast.com/podcast/2017/10/16/s2-e3-matt-carter-bad-christians-in-seattle"Toby Morrell," Christian Metal Group FB on YouTube, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gnxKTBSp4Y8Audio creditsJesus Freak - dc TalkWalls - EmeryNPR, All Things Considered, "Christians Turn To Podcasts To Say Things They Can't Say In Church.""What Would Jesus Sell? w. Toby Morrell (Bad Christian / Emery)," The System is Down on YouTubeYesterday – bloom.The Party Song - EmeryWorld Away - EmeryCutthroat Collapse - EmeryFractions - EmeryBloodless - EmerySo Cold I Could See My Breath - EmeryStudying Politics - EmeryReturning the Smile You Have Had From the Start - EmeryListening to Freddie Mercury - EmeryRock-N-Rule - EmeryCan't Stop the Killer - EmeryDon't Bore Us, Get to the Chorus - EmeryButcher's Mouth - EmeryThe Smile, The Face - Emery ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★

It's Christian Rock Summer! This is the beginning of a month long exploration of the fringes of Christian music with Josh Christianson joining Josiah as co-host. We're talking "not a Christian band, just Christians in a band." We're talking Christianity being more of a relationship than a religion. On today's episode, James (@cigarette_liker) joins Josh and Josiah to discuss the hardcore/metalcore/mathcore band, The Chariot, and its charismatic front man, Josh Scogin. They discuss the band's discography, their notorious live shows, what made them unique at the time, and whether or not there is a political or religious philosophy behind it all.NOTE: I recorded the Patreon shout outs for this episode in June, so I missed a new person. So you get a shout out in the show notes. Thank you for supporting the show, racecaracecaracecar!Follow today's guest on Twitter @cigarette_liker and on Bluesky @cigarettelikerBecome a Fruitless Patron here: https://www.patreon.com/user?u=11922141Check out Fruitless on YouTubeFind more of Josiah’s work: https://linktr.ee/josiahwsuttonFollow Josiah on Twitter @josiahwsuttonReferencesThe The Chariot Episode, Spotify Playlist, https://open.spotify.com/playlist/67c0zm8pnEOJDm5RkEt5ZX?si=98987567dc45493f Video to watch to get a feel for The Chariot's energy, the infamous pears incident: "THE CHARIOT PERTH 2011," https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TR4uoOVah7IAnother good video to see their stage presence: "The Chariot - Live in Plan B, Moscow 05.04.2012," https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htdulnrNKyMhate5six on YouTube, https://www.youtube.com/@hate5sixI learned about Scogin leaving Norma Jean in the middle of a show from this essay: "The Theology of the Chariot," Mason Mennenga, https://masonmennenga.com/writings-1/2020/12/23/the-theology-of-the-chariotuswithoutThem, https://uswithoutthempod.com/"Jonathan Kindler: The Chariot," The BlackSheep Podcast, https://hmmagazine.com/podcast/jonathan-kindler-the-chariot/"Stephen Harrison: The Chariot and Fever 333," The BlackSheep Podcast, https://hmmagazine.com/podcast/stephen-harrison-the-chariot-and-fever-333"Bryan Taylor: The Chariot, The Threats, and Slowriter," The BlackSheep Podcast, https://hmmagazine.com/podcast/bryan-taylor-the-chariot-the-threats-and-slowriter/"Ex-The Chariot Members Say Josh Scogin Fired Them Because God Told Him To," The PRP, https://www.theprp.com/2018/06/04/news/ex-the-chariot-members-say-josh-scogin-fired-them-because-god-told-him-to/Ladies and Gentlemen... The Chariot: Tour Documentary, YouTube, originally on DVD, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=voQ0A3P2Zy0The Chariot live at the Chameleon Club, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNBkiBbDs3Y"Josh Scogin of The Chariot - Testimony at Soulfest," SoulFest on YouTube, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_O9InNvZwUAudio creditsJesus Freak - dc TalkJosh Scogin of The Chariot - Testimony at Soulfest," SoulFest on YouTube"Bryan Taylor: The Chariot, The Threats, and Slowriter," The BlackSheep PodcastYesterday – bloom.The Company, The Comfort, The Grave - The ChariotMemphis Will Be Laid to Waste - Norma JeanAnd Shot Each Other - The Chariot"The Chariot - Live in Plan B, Moscow 05.04.2012," https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htdulnrNKyM"THE CHARIOT PERTH 2011," https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TR4uoOVah7IBack to Back - The ChariotTeach: - The ChariotIn My Dreams – bloom.The City - The Chariot ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★

Hey everyone! Something came up and so I won't be able to release another free episode in June. To make up for that, I'm releasing this Patreon episode to the main feed. If you want a bit more detail, you can check out this Patreon post: https://www.patreon.com/posts/defeat-107021276 I kind of regretted pay-walling this one anyway, especially since I want to spread the word about this wonderful show. So enjoy! Jackal joins Josiah to discuss the animated New Weird series, Scavengers Reign and, ultimately, pitch you all on watching it. They try to avoid spoilers as they discuss body and environmental horror, the influence of Jeff VanderMeer, the return of working class sci-fi, and also a little bit about AI, Starfield, and the Gaia Hypothesis.ReferencesScavengers (2016), https://www.shortfilmwindow.com/scavengers/Scavengers Reign, Season 1 (2023), Netflix."Savage Planet: How ‘Scavengers Reign’ Creators Evolved Their Acclaimed Short into a Thrilling Sci-Fi Series," Jeff Spry in Animation Magazine, https://www.animationmagazine.net/2023/10/savage-planet-how-scavengers-reign-creators-evolve-their-acclaimed-short-into-a-thrilling-sci-fi-series/Music creditsScavengers Reign Theme - Nicolas SnyderUnreal - SHADE08After Dark - SHADE08 ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★

THIS IS A PREVIEW. IF YOU WANT TO LISTEN TO THE FULL EPISODE, CHECK OUT FRUITLESS ON PATREON HERE: https://www.patreon.com/user?u=11922141EPISODE ON PATREON: https://www.patreon.com/posts/106929475It's the music exchange! This is an monthly series where Josh Christianson and I exchange an album that's meaningful to us, and then compare and contrast them. This month we're discussing The Troubled Stateside by Crime in Stereo and Chaos A.D. by Sepultura. Music by SHADE08 ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★

Josiah is joined by Jason Kirk (@jasonkirk_fyi, Shutdown Fullcast, VBS Podcast) to discuss his novel, Hell is a World Without You, as well as growing up evangelical, the world of Christian alternative music, and the good news of universalism.Follow Jason Kirk on Twitter @JasonKirk_fyi // Bluesky @Jasonkirk.fyi // Instagram @Jasonkirk.fyiJason Kirk's newsletter: https://www.jasonkirk.fyi/More of Jason's work: https://linktr.ee/jasonkirkBecome a Fruitless Patron here: https://www.patreon.com/user?u=11922141Check out Fruitless on YouTubeFind more of Josiah’s work: https://linktr.ee/josiahwsuttonFollow Josiah on Twitter @josiahwsuttonAudio & visual creditsThumbnail from this article: "'Hell is a World Without You' is a Vortex of 2000s Youth Group Emotions," Tyler Huckabee in Sojourners, https://sojo.net/articles/hell-world-without-you-vortex-2000s-youth-group-emotionsSentimental - Dan DarmawanYesterday – bloom.In My Dreams – bloom. ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★

Josiah is joined by two members of Iowa CCI: Caitlin Golle, a farming & environment community organizer with the organization, and Julie Duhn, a board member who joined CCI to combat the construction of a factory farm in her town of Eldora, IA. We discuss the impact of factory farming and pipelines on the state, particularly their impact on the water quality, as well as the work CCI is doing to fight corporate power in rural communities.Follow Iowa CCI on Twitter @IowaCCI // Facebook @IowaCCILearn more about Iowa CCI: https://www.iowacci.org/Become a Fruitless Patron here: https://www.patreon.com/user?u=11922141Check out Fruitless on YouTubeFind more of Josiah’s work: https://linktr.ee/josiahwsuttonFollow Josiah on Twitter @josiahwsuttonResources"We're Not Buying Iowa Select's Hogwash," Julie Duhn on ICCI Blog, https://www.iowacci.org/blog/were-not-buying-iowa-selects-hogwash"End-Stage Iowa: Big-Ag’s Sacrifice Zone and Indigenous Resistance," Sikowis (Christine Nobiss), https://www.greatplainsaction.org/single-post/end-stage-iowa"Many Iowa rivers are brimming with nitrate," Jared Strong in Iowa Capital Dispatch, https://iowacapitaldispatch.com/2024/05/12/many-iowa-rivers-are-brimming-with-nitrate"Fertilizer killed more than 750,000 fish in Nishnabotna," Jared Strong in Iowa Capital Dispatch, https://iowacapitaldispatch.com/2024/03/27/fertilizer-killed-more-than-750000-fish-in-nishnabotnaJoin Iowa CCI's Clean Water Fight, https://iowacci.ourpowerbase.net/civicrm/contribute/transact?reset=1&id=200Music & audio creditsSentimental - Dan DarmawanYesterday – bloom.In My Dreams – bloom. ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★

THIS IS A PREVIEW. IF YOU WANT TO LISTEN TO THE FULL EPISODE, CHECK OUT FRUITLESS ON PATREON HERE: https://www.patreon.com/user?u=11922141EPISODE ON PATREON: https://www.patreon.com/posts/im-wide-awake-mx-104674422It's another music exchange! This is an monthly series where Josh Christianson and I exchange an album that's meaningful to us, and then compare and contrast them. This month we're discussing I'm Wide Awake, It's Morning by Bright Eyes and Arc by Agoraphobic Nosebleed.Music by SHADE08 ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★

Austin Frerick joins Josiah to discuss his book, Barons: Money, Power, and the Corruption of America's Food Industry and the politics of food production in Iowa and around the country.Follow Austin on Twitter @AustinFrerick // Facebook @AustinFrerickFind more of Austin's work: https://www.austinfrerick.comBecome a Fruitless Patron here: https://www.patreon.com/user?u=11922141Check out Fruitless on YouTubeFind more of Josiah’s work: https://linktr.ee/josiahwsuttonFollow Josiah on Twitter @josiahwsuttonReferences"The Hog Barons," Austin Frerick in Vox, https://www.vox.com/the-highlight/22344953/iowa-select-jeff-hansen-pork-farmingBarons: Money, Power, and the Corruption of America's Food Industry by Austin FrerickIowa CCI, https://www.iowacci.org/Music & audio creditsEastern European Post Punk – LaffyyYesterday – bloom.In My Dreams – bloom. ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★

This is the audio for a video essay on YouTube. If you choose to listen here, you will only get half the experience. For the full experience, check out Fruitless on YouTube.The video essay: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_HQIbyJuuAThe Youtube channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCIZWDsDrQ0XvDQFWzE6s2gg ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★

THIS IS A PREVIEW. IF YOU WANT TO LISTEN TO THE FULL EPISODE, CHECK OUT FRUITLESS ON PATREON HERE: https://www.patreon.com/user?u=11922141EPISODE ON PATREON: https://www.patreon.com/posts/103466040Josh Boerman (@boshj, The Worst of All Possible Worlds) joins me on a last minute "emergency" episode about the Palestinian solidarity protests at Columbia, CUNY, UCLA, and elsewhere. We recorded this on the evening of May 1. Some things may have changed since events on campuses are moving fast.Music by SHADE08 ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★

THIS IS A PREVIEW. IF YOU WANT TO LISTEN TO THE FULL EPISODE, CHECK OUT FRUITLESS ON PATREON HERE: https://www.patreon.com/user?u=11922141EPISODE ON PATREON: https://www.patreon.com/posts/veggies-derechos-103210759Chris Barker and Josiah talk about "environmental history." We talk a bit about Guns, Germs, and Steel by Jared Diamond, the ecology of the Midwest, and how vegetables are a technology. This is a pretty casual episode, mostly just to introduce a few themes to the show going forward. Music by SHADE08 ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★

THIS IS A PREVIEW. IF YOU WANT TO LISTEN TO THE FULL EPISODE, CHECK OUT FRUITLESS ON PATREON HERE: https://www.patreon.com/posts/people-who-eat-1-103024783EPISODE ON PATREON: https://www.patreon.com/posts/101162953 This is a part of a new monthly series on Fruitless called the Music Exchange (MX), featuring Josh Christianson. Every month, Josh and I will pick out an album that's meaningful to us and we try to compare, contrast, and enjoy both.This week we are discussing People Who Eat People Are the Luckiest People in the World by AJJ and Magrudergrind by Magrudergrind. These two albums have never been discussed in the same podcast. Probably for good reason. But we're boldly going where no podcast will go.Music by SHADE08 ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★

Tyler Stone (@TylerStoneArt) joins Josiah to discuss his work as a freelance paleoartist. Paleoart (scientific illustration of prehistoric life) is a field with an interesting relationship between art and hard sciences. They discuss this relationship and the nitty gritty of the business side of paleoart, before delving into the challenges of being a science communicator in a field that attracts conspiracy theories, and how AI image generation is impacting the field.Follow Tyler on Twitter @TylerStoneArt // TikTok @TylerStoneArt // Instagram @TylerStoneArtFind more of Tyler's work: https://tylerstoneart.wordpress.comBecome a Fruitless Patron here: https://www.patreon.com/user?u=11922141Check out Fruitless on YouTubeFind more of Josiah’s work: https://linktr.ee/josiahwsuttonFollow Josiah on Twitter @josiahwsuttonMedia referencedTyler's animation of the evolution of whales, "From Feet to Flippers: The Evolution of Whales," https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKbC7QSjWfEOld episode of Very Legal, Very Cool, "sh*tty creationism," where we discussed the Creation Museum and the Ark Encounter, https://share.transistor.fm/s/96070284A short video by Tom Scott about the Crystal Palace dinosaurs Tyler discusses briefly, "The Scientifically Inaccurate Dinosaurs That Must Stay That Way," https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QWItLyDzMyE. I'm including this in case you'd like a visual of them.Episode of QAnon Anonymous that I (Josiah) reference briefly, "The Tartarian Empire," https://soundcloud.com/qanonanonymous/episode-273-the-tartarian-empireThe Paleoartist's Handbook: Recreating Prehistoric Animals in Art by Mark P. WittonOne Million Years B.C. (1966) directed by Don ChaffeyJurassic Park (1993), directed by Steven SpielbergJurassic World (2015), directed by Colin TrevorrowPrehistoric Planet, Apple TV+, produced by Jon Favreau & Mike Gunton.Music & audio creditsYesterday – bloom.Crumble – Dinosaur Jr. (The only reason I put this song in the end is because of the artist's name. That's the dumb joke there. Nothing deeper or more thoughtful.) ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★

Wesley Klingele (@MannnMiami) joins Josiah to discuss his new short film, Somnium, and the artistic themes he finds compelling. They talk about dreams, coming of age in your 20s, how religion and spirituality intersects with film, slow cinema vs. montage, and Wes' connection to the Pacific Northwest. Special thanks to Phil Cozzi for providing the microphone I used in today's episode and going forward.You can watch Wes' short experimental film, Cortex, here on Vimeo: https://vimeo.com/838056217. DM him directly for a screener of Somnium or wait until it's publicly available. Follow Wes on Twitter @MannnMiami // Letterboxd @CantinaBand // Instagram @WesleyKlingeleCheck out more of Wes' work: https://linktr.ee/wesaleeBecome a Fruitless Patron here: https://www.patreon.com/user?u=11922141Check out Fruitless on YouTubeFind more of Josiah’s work: https://linktr.ee/josiahwsuttonFollow Josiah on Twitter @josiahwsuttonMusic & audio creditsYesterday – bloom.Rejoice - Pedro the Lion ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★

This is the fourth installment of the Fruitless Bookclub, a show-within-a-show, featuring Chris Barker and Jake the Lawyer, where we read all those nonfiction books we've been meaning to read. Today's episode is about Ramp Hollow: The Ordeal of Appalachia by Steven Stoll. We talk peasants. We talk agrarians. We talk about peasants and agrarians getting destroyed by industry. We take a closer look at rural class dynamics and the history of the Appalachians. This is probably the longest episode of Fruitless yet. Sorry.Become a Fruitless Patron here: https://www.patreon.com/user?u=11922141Check out Fruitless on YouTubeFind more of Josiah’s work here: https://linktr.ee/josiahwsuttonFollow Josiah on Twitter @josiahwsuttonOther referencesEric Waggoner, "I'm From West Virginia and I've Got Something to Say About the Chemical Spill," https://www.huffpost.com/entry/west-virginia-chemical-spill_b_4598140.Here's a massive google doc with my notes for the episode if you want more, https://docs.google.com/document/d/17JJPM3aChJqhLIQ7rJ0HTtIRjFIFJ5Ric9OcZHEBxv0.Squatters' rights battle in Florida, https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2024/03/28/squatter-rights-laws-florida-bill/73128455007.Black Reconstruction in America, by W. E. B. Du BoisThe Color of Law, by Richard RothsteinGasland (2010), directed by Josh FoxMusic & Audio creditsYesterday – bloom.Sixteen Tons - Tennessee Ernie Ford ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★

Alien aka Stewie Griffin DJ joins Josiah to discuss Synecdoche, New York and whether or not life is worth living. Happy Good Friday!Follow today's guest on Bluesky @stewiegriffindj.bsky.socialBecome a Fruitless Patron here: https://www.patreon.com/user?u=11922141Check out Fruitless on YouTubeFind more of Josiah’s work here: https://linktr.ee/josiahwsuttonFollow Josiah on Twitter & Bluesky @josiahwsutton(.bsky.social)ReferencesSynecdoche, New York (2008), directed by Charlie Kaufman.'Waiting for God in the Dark Night of the Soul: On Peter Rollins' Atheism for Lent,' Jeremy John in Sojourners, https://sojo.net/articles/lenten-reflections/waiting-god-dark-night-soul-peter-rollins-atheism-lent.MovieGuide review, https://www.movieguide.org/reviews/movies/synecdoche-new-york.html"Taste of Cherry: Stay Near the Tree," A. S. Hamrah, https://www.criterion.com/current/posts/7026-taste-of-cherry-stay-near-the-tree.The Worm at the Core: On the Role of Death in Life by Jeff Greenberg and Sheldon SolomonMusic & Audio creditsSynecdoche, New York (2008)Yesterday – bloom.Piano Three - John BrionPriests and Paramedics - Pedro the LionIn My Dreams – bloom.Free At Last - PUP ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★

THIS IS A PREVIEW. IF YOU WANT TO LISTEN TO THE FULL EPISODE, CHECK OUT FRUITLESS ON PATREON HERE: https://www.patreon.com/user?u=11922141EPISODE ON PATREON: https://www.patreon.com/posts/101162953Josiah catches up with his brother, Caleb aka The Bog Hog. We talk about what we've been watching and listening to, and get a little into the history of punk, post-punk, folk punk, surf rock, and emo. We also spoil Dawn of the Dead, Day of the Dead, and Train to Busan, and then have a conversation about blood donation.Music by SHADE08, Taking Back Sunday, American Football, The Afghan Whigs, Sunny Day Real Estate, Sleater-Kinney. ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★

THIS IS A PREVIEW. IF YOU WANT TO LISTEN TO THE FULL EPISODE, CHECK OUT FRUITLESS ON PATREON HERE: https://www.patreon.com/user?u=11922141EPISODE ON PATREON: https://www.patreon.com/posts/101034575Chris Barker returns to talk to Josiah about the war in Ukraine, reflect on the episode they did about the conflict in 2022, see what ways their views have changed in the following two years, and discuss the other global conflicts that have been impacted by the war in Ukraine. Music by SHADE08 ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★

Josiah is joined by Will Sloan (@WillSloanEsq, Important Cinema Club, Michael & Us) to discuss Motern Media and the artistic philosophy of Matt Farley and Charles Roxburgh. Follow today’s guest on Twitter.Check out the Important Cinema Club and Michael & UsBecome a Fruitless Patron here: https://www.patreon.com/user?u=11922141Check out Fruitless on YouTubeFind more of Josiah’s work hereFollow Josiah on Twitter @josiahwsuttonReferencesThe Paperboy (1999), directed by Matt Farley & Charles RoxburghSammy (2002), directed by Charles RoxburghAdventures in Cruben Country (2002), directed by Matt FarleyDruid Gladiator Clone (2003), directed by Matt FarleyDruids Druids Everywhere (??), directed by Charles RoxburghObtuse Todd (2006), directed by Matt FarleyFreaky Farley (2007), directed by Charles RoxburghMonsters, Murder, and Marriage in Manchvegas (2009), directed by Charles RoxburghDon't Let the Riverbeast Get You! (2012), directed by Charles RoxburghLocal Legends (2013), directed by Matt FarleySlingshot Cops (2016), directed by Charles RoxburghHeard She Got Married (2021), directed by Charles RoxburghMetal Detector Maniac (2021), directed by Charles RoxburghMagic Spot (2022), directed by Charles RoxburghHeard She Got Murdered (2023), directed by Charles RoxburghBoston Johnny (2023), directed by Charles RoxburghMusic and audio creditsYesterday – bloom.In My Dreams – bloom.Opening clip is from Ep 5 of Lessons From a Middle Class Artist, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXnK9Xl3zzE. ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★

THIS IS A PREVIEW. IF YOU WANT TO LISTEN TO THE FULL EPISODE, CHECK OUT FRUITLESS ON PATREON HERE: https://www.patreon.com/user?u=11922141EPISODE ON PATREON: https://www.patreon.com/posts/mumbling-safdies-99383330Dylan Weaver (@DJWeaver29, WODFAMCHOCPOD) joins me in a final defense of Mumblecore (I promise I'll drop this subject next month) by discussing the Safdie brothers' first two films, The Pleasure of Being Robbed (2008) and Daddy Longlegs (2009). Also just some broader discussions about Mumblecore.Follow today's guest on Letterboxd @djweaver29 or Twitter @djweaver29Music by SHADE08 ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★

Josiah is joined by AJ Ditty (@thefuzzymask, The Worst of All Possible Worlds) to discuss The Puffy Chair (2005) and how Mumblecore can actually be pretty good sometimes. Follow today’s guest on Twitter.Check out The Worst of All Possible WorldsBecome a Fruitless Patron here: https://www.patreon.com/user?u=11922141Check out Fruitless on YouTubeFind more of Josiah’s work hereFollow Josiah on Twitter @josiahwsuttonReferencesThe Puffy Chair (2005), directed by Jay Duplass"'The Puffy Chair' Tells the Story of a Trip to Atlanta (and to Adulthood)," A.O. Scott in New York Times, https://www.nytimes.com/2006/08/04/movies/04puff.html.Jay and Mark Duplass at the Academy, 2015, Oscars YouTube Channel, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=el_O0rFDCkM.Jay Duplass breaks down his career, Vanity Fair, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zeWiogEnMic."What Makes This Film Great: The Puffy Chair," Aaron Hunter, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgBYD7j-yME. I (Josiah) forgot to say I pulled the point about Josh ripping off the motel but being indignant when he gets ripped off later from this lovely little video essay about the film.Matthew Christman reviewing the film on Letterboxd, https://letterboxd.com/worsethan/film/the-puffy-chair.Music & audio creditsYesterday – bloom.At the Bottom of Everything - Bright EyesPrevious TWOAPW episode where I insulted Mumblecore (Episode 84) ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★

THIS IS A PREVIEW. IF YOU WANT TO LISTEN TO THE FULL EPISODE, CHECK OUT FRUITLESS ON PATREON HERE: https://www.patreon.com/user?u=11922141EPISODE ON PATREON: https://www.patreon.com/posts/98462326Francis Cooper (@AttnFrancis) joins me to talk about how he ended up at a Jimmy Dore show and the strange political comedy he witnessed. Music by SHADE08 ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★

Josiah is joined by Finch (@santo_pinzon, Mammonburg) to talk about Society of the Snow (2023) and the discourse around the film in the Spanish-speaking world.Finch’s essay about the film and Catholic spirituality on Substack: https://jmkazmierczak.substack.com/p/a-voice-cries-out-in-the-wildernessFollow today's guest on Twitter @santo_pinzonCheck out Finch's Substack here: https://jmkazmierczak.substack.com/Become a Fruitless Patron here: https://www.patreon.com/user?u=11922141Check out Fruitless on YouTubeFind more of Josiah’s work here: https://linktr.ee/josiahwsuttonFollow Josiah on Twitter & Bluesky @josiahwsuttonReferencesSociety of the Snow (2023) directed by J. A. BayonaAlive (1993), directed by Frank MarshallSociety of the Snow: The Definitive Account of the World’s Greatest Survival Story by Pablo VierciBergara defends his comment about Society of the Snow, El Pais, https://www.elpais.com.uy/informacion/politica/bergara-defendio-su-polemico-tuit-sobre-la-sociedad-de-la-nieve-y-comentario-sobre-la-tragedia-de-los-andes-el-espiritu-del-tuit-lo-mantengo"More Dead Than Alive," Madeleine Kearns, https://www.nationalreview.com/2024/02/more-dead-than-aliveMusic and audio creditsYesterday – bloom.In My Dreams – bloom.TODAY report on the 1972 crash, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DzkFyeTB-wE ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★

This is an unlocked episode from the Fruitless Patreon, originally published 1/12/2024. Enjoy!James (@cigarette_liker) joins Josiah to talk about Idiocracy (2006). Yes, it's a eugenicist movie. Yes, it is a product of the smug, upper class liberalism of the Bush years, and it was popular during the resurgence of that sentiment during the Trump years. But what does it mean now? And is it funny?Follow today's guest on Twitter @cigarette_liker and on Bluesky @cigarettelikerReferencesIdiocracy (2006), directed by Mike Judge.Office Space (1999), directed by Mike Judge.Mike Judge on Info Wars, video from YouTube, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khTqmN2Lths.Terry Crews, io9 on YouTube, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHZfcltOFPc."The Jock/Creep Theory of Fascism" John Ganz in Unpopular Front, https://www.unpopularfront.news/p/the-jockcreep-theory-of-fascism."How Idiocracy Perpetuates Itself," Rod Dreher in the American Conservative, 2014, https://www.theamericanconservative.com/how-idiocracy-perpetuates-itself."I Loathe Every Person...," https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/i-loathe-every-person-i-see-on-the-street-r-crumb-comic.Starship Troopers (1997), directed by Paul Veerhoeven.Team America: World Police (2004), directed by Trey Parker.Benny's Video (1992), directed by Michael Haneke.Music by SHADE08 & Hansiii ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★

Josiah is joined by Luke Savage (@LukewSavage, Michael & Us, Jacobin) to reflect on the last fifteen years of U.S. electoral politics in light of the current election year: the failures of the Obama administration, the hyperpolitics of the Trump administration, and the attempted 'return to normalcy' of Biden's first term. Follow today's guest on Twitter @LukewSavageCheck out Michael & Us here: https://soundcloud.com/michael-and-usLuke Savage in Jacobin: https://jacobin.com/author/luke-savageBecome a Fruitless Patron here: https://www.patreon.com/user?u=11922141Check out Fruitless on YouTubeFind more of Josiah’s work here: https://linktr.ee/josiahwsuttonFollow Josiah on Twitter & Bluesky @josiahwsuttonReferencesThe Dead Center: Reflections on Liberalism and Democracy After the End of History by Luke SavageSeeking Social Democracy: Seven Decades in the Fight for Equality by Ed Broadbent, Jonathan Sas, Frances Abele, and Luke Savage.Leave the World Behind (2023), directed by Sam Esmail."Everything is Hyperpolitical," Anton Jäger in The Point, https://thepointmag.com/politics/everything-is-hyperpolitical.Trust the Plan: The Rise of QAnon and the Conspiracy That Reshaped the World by Will Sommers"The Biden Era's Defining Characteristic: Anti-Politics," Luke Savage in Jacobin, https://jacobin.com/2023/09/biden-administration-anti-politics-trump-books-media-coverage. This is the article discussing political book sales and online news engagement during the Trump admin vs. the Biden admin that Luke references.The Day One Agenda, The American Prospect, https://prospect.org/day-one-agenda."Why Liberals Pretend They Have No Power," Luke Savage in The Atlantic, https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/10/why-liberals-feign-powerlessness/616644.Everything Was Forever, Until It Was No More: The Last Soviet Generation by Alexei Yurchak"The Ultimate Election Year: All the Elections Around the World in 2024," Koh Ewe in Time, https://time.com/6550920/world-elections-2024.MusicYesterday – bloom.In My Dreams – bloom. ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★

THIS IS A PREVIEW. IF YOU WANT TO LISTEN TO THE FULL EPISODE, CHECK OUT FRUITLESS ON PATREON HERE: https://www.patreon.com/user?u=11922141EPISODE ON PATREON: https://www.patreon.com/posts/96745407Alien (aka Stewie Griffin DJ) returns to discuss two Aughts-era films about sex: Kissing on the Mouth (2005) and Shortbus (2006). They talk about Joe Swanberg's dick and ask the really hard question: Is Shortbus a Mumblecore movie?Music by SHADE08 ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★

After some positive reception, I've decided to release this Patreon episode from 12/18/2023 to the free feed as a resource. Enjoy!Keanu Heydari returns to teach Josiah the strange history of Christian Zionism and the story of how the United States became obsessed with Israel.Follow today’s guest on Twitter, and remember to check out his podcast and his website.Become a Fruitless Patron here: https://www.patreon.com/user?u=11922141Check out Fruitless on YouTubeFind more of Josiah’s work here: https://linktr.ee/josiahwsuttonFollow Josiah on Twitter & Bluesky @josiahwsuttonResourcesEvangelicals and Israel: The Story of American Christian Zionism by Stephen SpectorAllies for Armageddon: The Rise of Christian Zionism by Victoria ClarkGod's Country: Christian Zionism in America by Samuel GoldmanThe Evangelicals: The Struggle to Shape America by Frances FitzgeraldMusic by SHADE08 ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★

Josiah is joined by Jesse Goodman (@platofan402, Post-Cultural Amnesiac) to discuss 2023. Beginning with a focus on 2023 in personal media consumption, the conversation evolves into a broader discuss of the anecdotal "vibe shift," the sense of living in a hyperpolitical age, and the difficulty of talking about film or art while genocide and war unfolds in the background. Correction: I (Josiah) briefly discuss the strange Osama Bin Laden going viral on TikTok situation and suggest that we will eventually find out who is behind that. We already have. It was Yashar Ali who platformed it. Follow today's guest on Twitter @platofan402Check out Jesse's Substack, Post-Cultural Amnesiac, here: https://jessedgoodman.substack.com.Some of Jesse's poetry can be found in issues 17 and 24 of Wild Roof: https://wildroofjournal.com.An essay by Jesse in Litro US: https://www.litromagazine.com/usa/2023/06/baltimore-by-the-mid-morning-light.Become a Fruitless Patron here: https://www.patreon.com/user?u=11922141Check out Fruitless on YouTubeFind more of Josiah’s work here: https://linktr.ee/josiahwsuttonFollow Josiah on Twitter & Bluesky @josiahwsuttonReferencesPoor Things (2023), directed by Yorgos Lanthimos."Everyone Is Beautiful and No One Is Horny," R.S. Benedict in Blood Knife, https://bloodknife.com/everyone-beautiful-no-one-horny."The Strange Undeath of Middlebrow," Phil Christman in The Hedgehog Review, https://hedgehogreview.com/issues/who-do-we-think-we-are/articles/the-strange-undeath-of-middlebrow. An edited version of this essay appears in his collection, How to Be Normal."Everything is Hyperpolitical," Anton Jäger in The Point, https://thepointmag.com/politics/everything-is-hyperpolitical.If We Burn: The Mass Protest Decade and the Missing Revolution by Vincent Bevins"An Issue of Concern," John Ganz in Unpopular Front, https://www.unpopularfront.news/p/an-issue-of-concern."Eyeless in Gaza," Death Is Just Around the Corner, https://www.patreon.com/posts/199-eyeless-in-90901189.Tweet Josiah paraphrased: https://twitter.com/LukewSavage/status/1270048044881502209."Salvador Allende's Brief Experiment in Radical Democracy in Chile 50 Years Ago Today," Interview with Marian Schlotterbeck in Jacobin, https://jacobin.com/2020/09/salvador-allende-chile-coup-pinochet.MusicYesterday – bloom.In My Dreams – bloom. ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★

It's the Fruitless Christmas special. Chris Barker and Alien (aka Stewie Griffin DJ) join Josiah to discuss Children of Men (2006), the incredible craft behind the film, and the politics of hope and futurity. Become a Fruitless Patron here: https://www.patreon.com/user?u=11922141Check out Fruitless on YouTubeFind more of Josiah’s work here: https://linktr.ee/josiahwsuttonFollow Josiah on Twitter & Bluesky @josiahwsuttonReferencesChildren of Men (2006), directed by Alfonso Cuarón.Capitalist Realism: Is There No Alternative? by Mark FisherThe Possibility of Hope, an archival documentary about Children of Men on the Arrow Blu-Ray release.There Is No Future, video appreciation about Children of Men by Philip Kemp on the Arrow Blu-Ray release."Count-Down to Dystopia," Armond White https://www.nypress.com/news/count-down-to-dystopia-DGNP1020080109301099976.O-Bi O-Ba, The End of Civilization (1985). I (Josiah) kind of mischaracterized the ending of this movie. It's a lot more ambiguous than that, and I kind of projected a hopeful ending on a dreamy, weird final scene. Watch it for yourself and decide what the ending means: http://exmilitai.re/film.html."Why Children of Men haunts the present," Gavin Jacobson, https://www.newstatesman.com/culture/film/2020/07/children-of-men-alfonso-cuaron-2006-apocalypse-coronavirus.No Future: Queer Theory and the Death Drive by Lee EdelmanOut of the Red Closet, https://files.libcom.org/files/out-of-the-red-closet-kasama-pamphlet_0_0.pdf.Music & Audio creditsChildren of Men (2006)Interviews with James Lovelock, Slavoj Zizek, and Naomi Klein from The Possibility of Hope, an archival documentary about Children of Men on the Arrow Blu-Ray release.O Come, O Come Emmanuel, played by Kaleb Brasee, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLnlhpXV5IM.Yesterday – bloom.In My Dreams – bloom. ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★

This is the third installment of the Fruitless Bookclub, a show-within-a-show, featuring Chris Barker and Jake the Lawyer, where we read all those nonfiction books we've been meaning to read. Today's episode is about How Europe Underdeveloped Africa by Walter RodneyNext month: Ramp Hollow: The Ordeal of Appalachia by Steven StollBecome a Fruitless Patron here: https://www.patreon.com/user?u=11922141Check out Fruitless on YouTubeFind more of Josiah’s work here: https://linktr.ee/josiahwsuttonFollow Josiah on Twitter @josiahwsuttonOther references"Reconsidering a Classic: Walter Rodney's 'How Europe Underdeveloped Africa,'" Vanderbilt University on YouTube, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCiuFRiOW28.Debt: The First 5000 Years by David GraeberStamped from the Beginning: The Definitive History of Racist Ideas in America by Ibram X. KendiChildren of God's Fire: A Documentary History of Slavery in Brazil, edited by Robert Edgar Conrad, quote from Section 2.9. "There Are Plantations Where the Slaves Are Numb with Hunger": A Medical Thesis on Plantation Diseases and Their Causes (1847). We got the quote from a smarter person than us on an r/AskHistorians thread, which is here https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/ztoexl/comment/j39waqr/."One Giant Leap: Emancipation and Aggregate Economic Gains," Richard Hornbeck and Trevon Logan, Becker Friedman Institute, https://bfi.uchicago.edu/insight/research-summary/one-giant-leap-emancipation-and-aggregate-economic-gains. This is the UChicago article about how slavery is, in fact, unprofitable--the worst thing in the world to UChicago."Oh Dearism," directed by Adam Curtis. I (Josiah) kept referencing the "oh dear" sentiment from this six-minute Curtis documentary but forgot to actually bring it up, so it's right here for the citation perverts reading these notes: https://thoughtmaybe.com/oh-dearism.MusicYesterday – bloom.In My Dreams – bloom. ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★

Josiah is joined by Brian Alford (@SpocksBrian) from The Worst of All Possible Worlds to discuss HGTV's Home Town, the Napier family, and Laurel, Mississippi, alongside Showtime's new series, The Curse. Follow today’s guest on Twitter.Check out The Worst of All Possible WorldsBecome a Fruitless Patron here: https://www.patreon.com/user?u=11922141Check out Fruitless on YouTubeFind more of Josiah’s work hereFollow Josiah on Twitter @josiahwsuttonReferencesThe Curse, Showtime. Season 1, Episodes 1 - 5 are out at time of recording.Reddit thread about Home Town's race problem, https://www.reddit.com/r/HGTV/comments/il7bet/home_town_seems_like_white_town."Behind the Scenes on ‘Home Town’: A Season 4 Participant Spills the Details," Claudine Zap in Realtor, https://www.realtor.com/news/trends/behind-the-scenes-home-town."The dark side of Home Town," Jim Cegielski in The Laurel Leader Call, https://www.leader-call.com/opinion/columnists/the-dark-side-of-home-town/article_48770330-a7c6-11e8-bbf4-333e68883245.html. In the episode, Josiah flounders a bit because he's dumb and didn't re-read the article before the episode, but the gist is that Greg Burroughs, a man with a repeated history of abuse, had allegedly murdered his girlfriend, Katherine Sinclair. He called the local judge (who he was friends with) before he called 911 and multiple other strings were pulled to get him out of trouble. The author of the opinion piece, Jim Cegielski, claims he had local advertisers pull out because he chose to cover the story. His point is that there is a very clear monied class in Laurel that everyone is pretending doesn't exist. After this article was published, Greg Burroughs was acquitted."Southern Newlywed: At Home with Erin and Ben Napier," Southern Weddings, https://southernweddings.com/2014/06/06/southern-newlywed-home-lucky-luxe. This is the interview that got the attention of an HGTV producer and led to the show."‘Home Town’ Reflects an Incomplete Picture of Laurel’s History of Disenfranchisement," Jonathan Odell in Mississippi Free Press, https://www.mississippifreepress.org/35581/home-town-reflects-an-incomplete-picture-of-laurels-history-of-disenfranchisement."Here's Why 'Home Town' Star Erin Napier Has Been Silent About Black Lives Matter on Social Media," Kelly Wynne in Newsweek, https://www.newsweek.com/heres-why-home-town-star-erin-napier-has-been-silent-about-black-lives-matter-social-media-1508776."'Home Town' Star Erin Napier Gets Flooded With Comments After Sharing Parenting Rule," Katie Bowlby in Country Living, https://www.countryliving.com/life/entertainment/a42321936/home-town-erin-napier-parenting-rule-fan-reactions.Napiers' nonprofit to get kids off social media, OSPREY, https://ospreykids.com/about."'Home Town' Star Erin Napier Shares "Terrifying" Instagram Post that Has Fans Flooding Her with Support," Katie Bowlby in Country Living, https://www.countryliving.com/life/entertainment/a39903660/erin-napier-terrifying-instagram-post-fan-reactions.Episodes of Home Town watchedS1E1 Big Renovations in a Small TownS2E1 Home Town Holiday SpecialS3E10 Small Budget, Big StyleS4E3 The Church HouseS5E10 Retreat YourselfS6E5 Grand Millennial S7E2 The Family Tree (only Brian got around to this one)Music & audio creditsYesterday – bloom.In My Dreams – bloom."Home Town" CBS Segment https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYscsBliWZ8 ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★

THIS IS A PREVIEW. IF YOU WANT TO LISTEN TO THE FULL EPISODE, CHECK OUT FRUITLESS ON PATREON HERE: https://www.patreon.com/user?u=11922141EPISODE ON PATREON: https://www.patreon.com/posts/94255461Josiah is joined by his college roommate, Evan Sand, to reminisce about the good old days. And also discuss life in Des Moines, IA and Rapid City, SD after graduating college during a pandemic.Music by SHADE08 ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★

Amelia Schafer (Indian Country Today, Rapid City Journal) joins Josiah to discuss her reporting on indigenous affairs in South Dakota, and the issues facing Indian Country, particularly the Pine Ridge Reservation.Follow today’s guest on Twitter, and remember to check out her work here.Find more of Josiah’s work hereFollow Josiah on Twitter @josiahwsuttonDonateCOUP Council, https://coupcouncil.org/donate.Friends of Pine Ridge Reservation, https://friendsofpineridgereservation.org/projects.One Spirit, https://www.onespiritlakota.org/donate.Native American Heritage Association, https://www.naha-inc.org/donate.References"Former school employees sue tribal officials over banishment", Indian Country Today, https://ictnews.org/news/former-school-employees-sue-tribal-officials-over-banishment."Gov. Noem's drug comments disturb Crow Creek officials," Keloland Media Group, https://www.keloland.com/keloland-com-original/gov-noems-drug-comments-disturb-crow-creek-officials."Lakota tribe issues State of Emergency due to high rates of violence," Indian Country Today, https://ictnews.org/news/lakota-tribe-issues-state-of-emergency-due-to-high-rates-of-violence."Survivors speak out against domestic abuse," Indian Country Today, https://ictnews.org/news/survivors-speak-out-against-domestic-abuse. "Finding Karson," Indian Country Today, https://ictnews.org/news/finding-karson."Walking while native a dangerous endeavor," Indian Country Today, https://ictnews.org/news/walking-while-native-a-dangerous-endeavor."NDN Collective prepares for DC rally," Indian Country Today, https://ictnews.org/news/ndn-collective-prepares-for-d-c-rally."Wounded Knee 'killing fields' one step closer to return to tribes," Indian Country Today, https://ictnews.org/news/wounded-knee-killing-fields-one-step-closer-to-return-to-tribes."Protestors Block Highway To Mount Rushmore Amid President's July 4th Celebration," NPR, https://www.npr.org/2020/07/03/887178376/protesters-block-highway-to-mt-rushmore-amid-president-trumps-july-4th-celebrati."Uncovering the history of Rapid City Indian School," Indian Country Today, https://ictnews.org/news/uncovering-the-history-of-rapid-city-indian-school. ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★

THIS IS A PREVIEW. IF YOU WANT TO LISTEN TO THE FULL EPISODE, CHECK OUT FRUITLESS ON PATREON HERE: https://www.patreon.com/user?u=11922141EPISODE ON PATREON: https://www.patreon.com/posts/93631193On the Sunday after Thanksgiving, Josiah catches up with Alien aka Stevie Griffin DJ. Discussion topics include sports, Matt Johnson, Italian exploitation movies, Max Landis, Armond White, early silent film, Béla Tarr, Wang Bing, cop shows, movies being too long, animated kids movies, Harmony Korine, Dogma 95, Charlie Kaufman, and Next (2007).Music by SHADE08 ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★

Keanu Heydari joins Josiah to discuss the history of Palestine, Zionism, and the state of Israel in light of the war in Gaza. As always, he is incredibly insightful.Follow today’s guest on Twitter, and remember to check out his podcast and his website.Find more of Josiah’s work hereFollow Josiah on Twitter @josiahwsuttonResourcesThe Israel-Palestine Conflict: A History by James L. GelvinExcept for Palestine: The Limits of Progressive Politics by Marc Lamont Hill and Mitchell PlitnickThe Hundred Years' War on Palestine: A History of Settler Colonialism and Resistance, 1917-2017 by Rashid KhalidiThe Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine by Ilan PappéThe Biggest Prison on Earth: A History of the Occupied Territories by Ilan PappéShell Shocked: On the Ground Under Israel's Gaza Assault by Mohammed OmerOther texts mentionedThe Clash of Civilizations by Samuel P. HuntingtonOrientalism by Edward W. SaidIsrael and South Africa: The Many Faces of Apartheid by Ilan PappéLethal Provocation: The Constantine Murders and the Politics of French Algeria by Joshua ColeMediterraneans: North Africa and Europe in an Age of Migration, c. 1800-1900 by Julia A. Clancy-SmithAge of Coexistence: The Ecumenical Frame and the Making of the Modern Arab World by Ussama MakdisiMusicYesterday – bloom.In My Dreams – bloom. ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★

THIS IS A PREVIEW. IF YOU WANT TO LISTEN TO THE FULL EPISODE, CHECK OUT FRUITLESS ON PATREON HERE: https://www.patreon.com/user?u=11922141EPISODE ON PATREON: https://www.patreon.com/posts/iowa-democrats-92538451Justin Comer (Rock Hard Caucus) and Gavin Aronsen (Iowa Informer) join Josiah to discuss the Iowa Democratic Party's attack on University of Iowa Democrats after they issued a statement supporting Palestine. While this is a local Iowan story, it's also a case study in a broader trend of liberals attacking Palestinian solidarity, both on campuses and in their own ranks, especially surrounding the slogan "From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free." Music by SHADE08 ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★

This is the audio for the first ever Fruitless video essay on YouTube. If you choose to listen here, you will only get half the experience. For the full experience, check out Fruitless on YouTube.The video essay: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nIWKncAp6gEThe Youtube channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCIZWDsDrQ0XvDQFWzE6s2gg ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★

THIS IS A PREVIEW. IF YOU WANT TO LISTEN TO THE FULL EPISODE, CHECK OUT FRUITLESS ON PATREON HERE: https://www.patreon.com/user?u=11922141EPISODE ON PATREON: https://www.patreon.com/posts/fruitless-91915168Josiah and Jackal open up the Discord voice channel to take calls from former Fruitless guests, Phil Cozzi and Jake the Lawyer. They talk about horror and try to get Josiah into anime. This episode is brought to you by Cloverfield.Music by SHADE08 ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★

CW: some discussion of suicide and abortionJackal joins Josiah to discuss J-Horror. Specifically Noroi: The Curse (2005) and Senritsu Kaiki File Kowasugi! File 01 - Operation Capture the Slit-Mouthed Woman (2012), as well as The Worst of All Possible World’s fantastic video essay on Pulse (2001). They discuss the impact of the Lost Decade on the development of J Horror and the similarities that era in Japan has with the present United States, as well as J Horror's long term impact on horror.For more Jackal, check out Mammonburg and The Good Apples.Become a Fruitless Patron here: https://www.patreon.com/user?u=11922141Check out Fruitless on YouTubeFind more of Josiah’s work here: https://linktr.ee/josiahwsuttonFollow Josiah on Twitter @josiahwsuttonFilms/videosNoroi: The Curse (2005) is on ShudderYou can find Senritsu File 01 on YouTube at this link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhVRLwexVtUThe Worst of All Possible World's video on Pulse: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dv4kDWuUDTc AudioBloomberg clip about the Lost Decade: https://youtu.be/3FwiIx99VQkYesterday – bloom.In My Dreams – bloom. ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★

THIS IS A PREVIEW. IF YOU WANT TO LISTEN TO THE FULL EPISODE, CHECK OUT FRUITLESS ON PATREON HERE: https://www.patreon.com/user?u=11922141EPISODE ON PATREON: https://www.patreon.com/posts/last-exorcism-91719689Josh Christianson joins Josiah to discuss The Last Exorcism (2010) and The Last Exorcism Part II (2013), which means that we are not, in fact, taking a break from the subject of evangelicalism in October like we thought. Also a discussion about how the world feels like it's ending right now.Music by SHADE08 ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★

This is the second installment of the Fruitless Bookclub (Chris didn't like it being called the Barker Bookclub), a show-within-a-show where we read all those nonfiction books we've been meaning to read. Today's episode is about Late Victorian Holocausts by Mike Davis.Next month: How Europe Underdeveloped Africa by Walter RodneyBecome a Fruitless Patron here: https://www.patreon.com/user?u=11922141Check out Fruitless on YouTubeFind more of Josiah’s work here: https://linktr.ee/josiahwsuttonFollow Josiah on Twitter @josiahwsuttonMusicYesterday – bloom.In My Dreams – bloom. ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★

Spike Stonehand (aka Stephen) joins Josiah to talk about WNUF Halloween Special (2013) and what makes a found footage movie good. They also compare and contrast found footage genre with Dogme 95, Mumblecore, mockumentaries, and various social realist film movements.Other films discussed: Blair Witch Project, Man Bites Dog, Cannibal Holocaust, Texas Chainsaw Massacre, Deadstream, Deadware, V/H/S, Creep, Lake Mungo, SavagelandFollow Stephen on Bluesky @spikestonehandCheck out Stephen's work, Divining Comics at SpikeStonehand.comYou can find WNUF Halloween Special here: https://wnuf.bigcartel.com/product/wnuf-halloween-special-blu-ray Become a Fruitless Patron here: https://www.patreon.com/user?u=11922141Check out Fruitless on YouTubeFind more of Josiah’s work here: https://linktr.ee/josiahwsuttonFollow Josiah on Twitter @josiahwsutton ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★

THIS IS A PREVIEW. IF YOU WANT TO LISTEN TO THE FULL EPISODE, CHECK OUT FRUITLESS ON PATREON HERE: https://www.patreon.com/user?u=11922141EPISODE ON PATREON: https://www.patreon.com/posts/89570963Leo Dickenson joins Josiah to wrap up Christian Girl Fall (Evangelicalism month at Fruitless) by talking about growing up as an evangelical homeschooler, the strange relationship to sexuality this environment fostered, the way homeschooling helps and hinders those who are neurodivergent, and the focus on aesthetics over coherent faith or morality that characterizes much of the homeschooled evangelical world. This is a messy one that's gets into some very personal anecdotes that were only shared because of the limited, paywalled audience. I'm saying this both as a way of thanking Patrons for supporting the show financially, and also as a general warning that we talk pretty bluntly about sex, misogyny, and neurodivergence in this one.You can find Leo on Bluesky: @lzd.bsky.socialMusicUnreal - SHADE08 ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★

Hello! This is a reposted episode from a previous podcast I used to do called Very Legal, Very Cool. I'm reposting this episode as a way of introducing Leo Dickenson to the Fruitless canon since he'll be appearing on a Patreon episode I will be releasing within the next week. Enjoy.Originally posted 4/5/2021You can find a link to the Very Legal, Very Cool archive here.Intro music by SHADE08Original show notesIn today's episode, Leo (@LCDickens) joins Josiah to talk about the discourse: Lil Nas X, Dr. Seuss, "cancel culture," evangelicals, exvangelicals, and why the internet sucks but can sometimes be good.Modern Guilt - Beck Fuck Off - The Frogs Sure As Spring - La Luz ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★

THIS IS A PREVIEW. IF YOU WANT TO LISTEN TO THE FULL EPISODE, CHECK OUT FRUITLESS ON PATREON HERE: https://www.patreon.com/user?u=11922141EPISODE ON PATREON: https://www.patreon.com/posts/hardcore-89265282Josh Christianson joins Josiah to reflect on Fruitless' Christian Girl Fall kick-off (the last two public episodes about evangelicalism). They talk a lot about evangelicalism's relationship to emotions, their personal relationship with music, the sense of living in the end times, and all sorts of other super personal stuff with juicy details that you only get if you support the show financially.MusicUnreal - SHADE08 ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★

Josiah and Josh Christianson are joined by philosopher and psychoanalyst, Tad Delay, to discuss his book Against: What Does the White Evangelical Want? and his upcoming book Future of Denial: The Ideologies of Climate Change, focusing particularly on evangelicalism's relationship with climate denial.Follow Tad Delay on Twitter @taddelay or on BlueSky @taddelayCheck out more on Tad Delay's work at taddelay.comBecome a Fruitless Patron here: https://www.patreon.com/user?u=11922141Check out Fruitless on YouTubeFind more of Josiah’s work here: https://linktr.ee/josiahwsuttonFollow Josiah on Twitter @josiahwsuttonReferencesAgainst: What Does the White Evangelical Want? - Tad DelayFuture of Denial: The Ideologies of Climate Change - Tad DelayMerchants of Doubt: How a Handful of Scientists Obscured the Truth on Issues from Tobacco Smoke to Global Warming - Naomi Oreskes and Erik M. ConwayMusicYesterday – bloom.In My Dreams – bloom. ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★

Josiah is joined by Josh Boerman (@boshj) from The Worst of All Possible Worlds to discuss growing up Reformed and evangelical, discovering "secular media," the general loneliness of American life that makes church attractive, and the way Trump broke the brains of so many evangelicals.Follow today’s guest on Twitter.Check out The Worst of All Possible WorldsBecome a Fruitless Patron here: https://www.patreon.com/user?u=11922141Check out Fruitless on YouTubeFind more of Josiah’s work hereFollow Josiah on Twitter @josiahwsuttonMusic & audio creditsYesterday – bloom.In My Dreams – bloom.CRNCA Synod 2022, Wednesday and Thursday ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★