E295: MURDER - To Die in a State of Grace
<p>In the 16th to 18th centuries, hundreds of people across Central Europe engineered their own executions in the hope of dying “in a state of grace.” Suicide was a mortal sin, but murder was a capital crime, and execution after confession was seen as a path to salvation. In this episode we discuss several real cases of so-called “suicide by proxy,” including Agnes Catherina Schickin in 1704, Eva Lizlfellnerin in 1762, and Ursula Waserin in 1723. We’ll look at how religion, law, and despair combined to create a tragic pattern of crimes that were all eerily similar, and ask why authorities took so long to shut down the deadly loophole.</p><p><br></p><p>If you or someone you know is struggling, please know you’re not alone. In the US, dial or text <strong>988</strong> for the Suicide &amp; Crisis Lifeline. In Canada, call <strong>988</strong>. In the UK &amp; Ireland, call <strong>116 123</strong> for Samaritans. In Austria, dial <strong>142</strong>, and in Germany call <strong>0800 111 0 111</strong> or <strong>0800 111 0 222</strong>. In Australia, call <strong>13 11 14</strong> for Lifeline. You can also find international resources at <strong>findahelpline.com</strong>.</p><p>The State of Grace, suicide by proxy, Agnes Catherina Schickin, Eva Lizlfellnerin, Ursula Waserin, 18th century crime, Central Europe history, Austria history, Württemberg history, religious history, capital punishment, public execution, state of grace, salvation, absolution, Fresh Hell Podcast</p>
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In the 16th to 18th centuries, hundreds of people across Central Europe engineered their own executions in the hope of dying “in a state of grace.” Suicide was a mortal sin, but murder was a capital crime, and execution after confession was seen as a path to salvation. In this episode we discuss several real cases of so-called “suicide by proxy,” including Agnes Catherina Schickin in 1704, Eva Lizlfellnerin in 1762, and Ursula Waserin in 1723. We’ll look at how religion, law, and despair combined to create a tragic pattern of crimes that were all eerily similar, and ask why authorities took so long to shut down the deadly loophole.
If you or someone you know is struggling, please know you’re not alone. In the US, dial or text 988 for the Suicide & Crisis Lifeline. In Canada, call 988. In the UK & Ireland, call 116 123 for Samaritans. In Austria, dial 142, and in Germany call 0800 111 0 111 or 0800 111 0 222. In Australia, call 13 11 14 for Lifeline. You can also find international resources at findahelpline.com.
The State of Grace, suicide by proxy, Agnes Catherina Schickin, Eva Lizlfellnerin, Ursula Waserin, 18th century crime, Central Europe history, Austria history, Württemberg history, religious history, capital punishment, public execution, state of grace, salvation, absolution, Fresh Hell Podcast
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