Fourth Estate

In light of the Optus data breach, we discuss what role the media has when reporting on cyber attacks and data security? Tina Quinn spoke with Jarni Blakkarly, investigative journalist for CHOICE, Nick Bonyhady, technology editor of Sydney Morning Herald and The Age, and Amber Schultz, associate editor & investigative journalist for Crikey. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Does your community have a local newspaper? Amidst a decline in local newspapers, who fills that gap of information? There is a growing movement of journalists establishing their own hyperlocal digital media start-ups to provide news for their community. Hear from two journalists that started their own news service and find out about the newly established Local and Independent News Association which will support them. Marlene Even spoke with Claire Stuchbery, Executive Director of Local & Independent News Association, Mark Phillips, founder, publisher, and editor of Brunswick Voice, and Peri Strathearn, Managing Editor of Murray Bridge News. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week's major news headline- the death of Queen Elizabeth II. In this edition, we discuss how the media has and is still covering the death of the Queen and the discussions around Australia’s relationship with the monarchy. Tina Quinn spoke with Geraldine Doogue, host of ABC Radio National’s Saturday Extra and Peter Fray, Editor-in-chief of Crikey and Managing Editor of Private Media. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

A growing amount of newsrooms are undergoing mobile journalism (MOJO) training. In this edition, listen to two esteemed MOJO journalists and trainers about what makes someone a MOJO and how is this news gathering practice impacting the media landscape? Marlene Even spoke with Corinne Podger, Director and Principal of the Digital Skills Agency and a qualified trainer for the BBC and Reuters and Saffron Howden, National Editorial Trainer for Australian Community Media. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The media are nicknaming the Crikey V. Lachlan Murdoch defamation case a ‘David and Goliath’ battle. Anthony Dockrill spoke with Crikey’s editor-in-chief Peter Fray and journalist Janine Perrett about the case and Australia’s defamation law broadly. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this edition of Fourth Estate, we discuss the role of multilingual news in Australian media. What needs to be considered when interpreting and re-expressing news into multiple languages? Marlene Even spoke with David Hua, Director of Audio and Language Content at SBS, Russell Anderson, Chief Executive Officer of the National Ethnic and Multicultural Broadcasters’ Council (NEMBC), and Kelly Baylis, the Recording and Production Co-ordinator of the Aboriginal Interpreter Service. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

When is it okay for politicians to go out partying? In light of the Finnish Prime Minister Sanna Marin, partying in her downtime and Australian Prime Minister Anthony Albanese recently sculling beer at a music concert, we ask if a double standard exists between female and male politicians and is the media perpetuating gender tropes? Tina Quinn spoke with associate editor & investigative journalist of Crikey News, Amber Schultz and the Hon. Mary Delahunty. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

New research has found that TV audiences in the United States tended to have more narrow news diets than their social media counterparts. In this edition of Fourth Estate, we discuss the state of partisan politics in America, echo chambers, and lessons for the Australian media. Monica Attard spoke with Bernard Keane, Political Editor at Crikey and Nick O’Malley, National Environment and Climate Editor at the Sydney Morning Herald and The Age. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this edition, we discuss the role of the solo video journalist. How can these 'one-person TV crews' cover stories that a traditional team couldn't and is the role sustainable? Tina Quinn spoke with Johanna Marie, Video Journalist with ABC News and Chris Campey, Chief of Staff and senior journalist with 10 News First. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

As Meta stops funding U.S. news publishers for their Facebook News Tab content, how could recent changes to social media impact Australia’s media industry? Marlene Even spoke with Rafqa Touma, reporter for Guardian Australia and Nick Bonyhady, technology editor of the Sydney Morning Herald and The Age. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Black Lives Matter sparked a ‘media reckoning’ in other countries but what happened in Australia? In the final episode of the 6-part Blak Bias podcast series, co-hosts Rhianna Patrick and Madeline Hayman-Reber discuss the treatment of Indigenous journalists who broke their silence on their experience inside mainstream media organisations. We hear from Carmen Parahi about Stuff.co.nz’s apology to Maori for how the major New Zealand news organisation portrayed Māori people and reported on Māori issues for the past 160 years. Warning: The following episode briefly discusses the reportage of child abuse so if this is likely to raise anything for you, please give 13 YARN (13- 92-76), the national 24/7 Indigenous crisis line a call or Lifeline on 13 11 14. Blak Bias is a collaboration between IndigenousX.com.au, the University of Technology Sydney (UTS), and 2SER Radio. It has been made possible with the support of the Judith Neilson Institute for Journalism and Ideas (JNI). Co-hosts: Rhianna Patrick and Madeline Hayman-Reber. Produced, edited, and mixed by Marlene Even at 2SER Radio. More information: Read Stuff.Co.NZ apology here: https://bit.ly/3BkkRre *Since the recording of this episode the Director of News at the Australian Broadcasting Corporation (ABC) has apologised to past and present Indigenous staff for their treatment. Read more here: https://ab.co/3S4sJCT Tile artwork: “Buldyan” (Grandfather), 2018 by Shannon Foster. Commissioned for the Centre for the Advancement of Indigenous Knowledges at UTS. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

There’s a fine line between race and racism when dissecting the Australian mainstream media and its reportage of Indigenous Affairs. Over the last decade, conservative columnists and reporters in conservative legacy media have generated public debate over the validity of the Racial Discrimination Act. At the same time, Indigenous communities have accused the same media of covert and overt racism in reporting. TV presenter, journalist, and Whadjuk Noongar woman Narelda Jacobs explores coverage of the death in custody of Kumanjayi Walker and the resulting trial. While Professor Heidi Norman from UTS discusses the coverage of the Cindy Prior case, which became subject to a nationwide debate around racial discrimination. Warning: The following episode discusses the reportage of Aboriginal Deaths in Custody so if this is likely to raise anything for you, please give 13 YARN (13- 92-76), the national 24/7 Indigenous crisis line a call. Blak Bias is a collaboration between IndigenousX.com.au, the University of Technology Sydney (UTS), and 2SER Radio. It has been made possible with the support of the Judith Neilson Institute for Journalism and Ideas (JNI). Co-hosts: Rhianna Patrick and Madeline Hayman-Reber. Produced, edited, and mixed by Marlene Even at 2SER Radio. More information: Racialised opinion pieces in Australian mainstream media 2019-2020 - A snapshot- https://bit.ly/3BnXVYe Are Aboriginal people a threat to the modern nation?: A study of newsprint coverage of a racial discrimination complaint - https://bit.ly/3vmviXh The Australian’s coverage of Zachary Rolfe verdict condemned as ‘national disgrace’, Guardian Australia, March 2022 -https://bit.ly/3PUO3sE Tile artwork: “Buldyan” (Grandfather), 2018 by Shannon Foster Commissioned for the Centre for the Advancement of Indigenous Knowledges at UTS. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

How much do mainstream journalists understand the nuances of land rights, native title, and Indigenous land ownership? From the birth of the land rights movement to the introduction of native title laws, mainstream media has often struggled to report accurately on issues of Indigenous land ownership. Professor Heidi Norman discusses how this reportage has impacted on the aspirations and self-determination of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islanders while Dr Valerie Cooms, Chairwoman of the Quandamooka Yoolooburrabee Aboriginal Corporation gives you the community perspective on what it's like to be on the other side of those stories. Blak Bias is a collaboration between IndigenousX.com.au, the University of Technology Sydney (UTS), and 2SER Radio. It has been made possible with the support of the Judith Neilson Institute for Journalism and Ideas (JNI). Co-hosts: Rhianna Patrick and Madeline Hayman-Reber. Produced, edited, and mixed by Marlene Even at 2SER Radio. More information: Does the Media Fail Aboriginal Political Aspirations - https://bit.ly/3S6AwQU Rural radio and the everyday politics of settlement on Indigenous land, 2019 (A study of ABC Radio’s Country Hour programme) - https://bit.ly/3Oxj59b Tile artwork: “Buldyan” (Grandfather), 2018 by Shannon Foster. Commissioned for the Centre for the Advancement of Indigenous Knowledges at UTS. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

When should the race of someone be identified in a news story and when shouldn’t it? If Indigeneity is excluded from a news story it can obscure racism–but if it’s featured, it can encourage racism and further add to media stereotyping of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islanders. CEO of Ngaarda Media, Tangiora Hinaki, shares how racial stereotyping played out in the recent case of the abduction of 4 year old Cleo Smith, and how Indigenous media uncovered the wrongful identification of her alleged kidnapper. Hear about the long history of media reporting on race with Andrew Jakubowicz, Emeritus Professor of Sociology at UTS. Warning: The following episode briefly discusses the reportage of child sexual abuse so if this is likely to raise anything for you, please give 13 YARN (13- 92-76), the national 24/7 Indigenous crisis line a call or Lifeline on 13 11 14. Blak Bias is a collaboration between IndigenousX.com.au, the University of Technology Sydney (UTS), and 2SER Radio. It has been made possible with the support of the Judith Neilson Institute for Journalism and Ideas (JNI). Co-hosts: Rhianna Patrick and Madeline Hayman-Reber. Produced, edited, and mixed by Marlene Even at 2SER Radio. More information: Race media and Identity in Australia - https://bit.ly/3b7tbA0 Tile artwork: “Buldyan” (Grandfather), 2018 by Shannon Foster. Commissioned for the Centre for the Advancement of Indigenous Knowledges at UTS. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

For a long time, Indigenous stories were mostly reported by non-Indigenous journalists. But that seems to be changing. A growing cohort of Indigenous journalists and the rise of the Indigenous digital content creators are making waves across both mainstream and Indigenous media. Lachlan Skinner, founder of the first Indigenous internet radio station, One Mob Radio on Gumbaynggirr country, and James Saunders, former Chief Operating Officer of IndigenousX.com.au discuss the changing Indigenous media landscape, and the new platforms and initiatives shaking things up. *Please note, at the time of recording James Saunders was the Chief Operating Officer (COO) of IndigenousX.com.au but he is now the former COO. Blak Bias is a collaboration between IndigenousX.com.au, the University of Technology Sydney, (UTS), and 2SER Radio. It has been made possible with the support of the Judith Neilson Institute for Journalism and Ideas (JNI). Co-hosts: Rhianna Patrick and Madeline Hayman-Reber. Produced, edited, and mixed by Marlene Even at 2SER Radio. More information: Who Gets to Tell Australian Stories study: https://bit.ly/3PAXPjW Does the media fail Aboriginal political aspirations: 45 years of news media reporting key political moments - https://bit.ly/3z4MSAm Listen to One Mob: https://onemobradio.com.au/ Tile artwork: “Buldyan” (Grandfather), 2018 by Shannon Foster Commissioned for the Centre for the Advancement of Indigenous Knowledges at UTS. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This edition is the first part of the 6-part Blak Bias podcast series. From keeping students connected to their schooling during the pandemic to helping coordinate clean up efforts after floods, Indigenous media does more than just report on what’s happening. The Guardian Australia’s Indigenous Affairs editor, Lorena Allam, explains the work of Indigenous media during times of crisis. She explains how The Guardian’s approach to reporting the outbreak of COVID-19 in Indigenous communities in western New South Wales put the government on notice about vaccination rates. But at the same time, mainstream news too often fell into victim-blaming. Blak Bias is a collaboration between IndigenousX.com.au, the University Technology Sydney (UTS), and 2SER Radio. It has been made possible with the support of the Judith Neilson Institute for Journalism and Ideas (JNI). Co-hosts: Rhianna Patrick and Madeline Hayman-Reber. Produced, edited, and mixed by Marlene Even at 2SER Radio. More information: Above and Beyond: A study of First Nations media and the COVID-19 pandemic https://apo.org.au/node/316152 Tile artwork: “Buldyan” (Grandfather), 2018 by Shannon Foster Commissioned for the Centre for the Advancement of Indigenous Knowledges at UTS. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

How has the Australian media represented Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander communities? Blak Bias is an in-depth look at Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander communities in the news – everything from the COVID-19 pandemic to land rights to the Cleo Smith case. Racist stereotypes, deficit narratives, and unethical practices are still everywhere in mainstream media – this podcast explores how and why these patterns keep repeating. Hosted by Indigenous journalists Rhianna Patrick and Madeline Hayman-Reber, the six-part series exposes how bringing Indigenous perspectives to the newsroom is often misunderstood as bias – rather than expertise. Based on research by Professor Heidi Norman, Archie Thomas and the team at the Centre for the Advancement of Indigenous Knowledges (CAIK) at the University of Technology Sydney (UTS), Blak Bias takes you deep into the news to understand–and challenge–the colonial narratives of Australian mainstream media. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this edition of Fourth Estate, foreign correspondent Lynne O’Donnell shares her experience of being detained by the Taliban in Afghanistan. Tina Quinn spoke with Lynne about the challenges local and foreign media workers face when reporting in conflict zones. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

What role does the community broadcasting sector have in a healthy fourth estate? We discuss the achievements of National Radio News (NRN), the national news service for the community broadcasting sector, as they reflect on 25 years of broadcasting. Monica Attard spoke with NRN News Director Frank Bonaccorso, NRN cadet journalist Emily Francis, and NRN senior journalist Emily Minney. The NRN is produced by the Community Broadcasting Association of Australia (CBAA), in partnership with Charles Sturt University and the 2MCE community radio station. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

As many journalists choose freelance media work we discuss the benefits and challenges of freelancing. Tina Quinn spoke with Bianca Nogrady and Catherine Bouris. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode we’re chatting with data journalists about the changes in their industry and the craft of communicating complex data with their audiences. Marlene Even spoke with Juliette O’Brien, a data journalist and founder of covid19data.com.au, Nick Evershed, data and interactives editor at Guardian Australia, and Wes Mountain, multimedia editor at The Conversation. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week we are discussing news fatigue and what the Digital News Report: Australian 2022 results say about Australians' trust in the media. Marlene Even spoke with Dr Kieran McGuinness, the Digital News Report Postdoctoral Fellow at the News & Media Research Centre at the University of Canberra. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week we discuss the criticism towards the Sydney Morning Herald for its reporting of Rebel Wilson’s new relationship. What lessons have been learned and are we witnessing a recalibration of public interest journalism? Monica Attard spoke with Hamish Macdonald, Journalist, Host of The Project and Sunday Project, and Eric Beecher, Chairman of Private Media and Solstice Media. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In light of the Depp v. Heard defamation case, we discuss reporting responsibly and respectfully on violence and harassment. We highlight the Our Watch Fellowship program and unpack the role the fourth estate has in preventing violence. Tina Quinn spoke with Lin Evlin, SBS News journalist, and Helen Pitt, Sydney Morning Herald journalist. Listener discretion is advised. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

What lessons can journalists take from the media coverage of the Australian federal election? This week we discuss whether the media noticed the political landscape shift. Monica Attard spoke with Troy Bramston, a Senior Writer and Columnist at The Australian and Katharine Murphy, the Political Editor at Guardian Australia. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week we discuss the media coverage of the election, from leaders' debates to lively press conferences. Do candidates owe the media an interview during an election campaign? Tina Quinn spoke with Phil Coorey, Political Editor at the Australian Financial Review, Paul Karp, Political Reporter for Guardian Australia, and Rachel Withers Contributing Editor for The Monthly. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week, we ask if the media is doing enough to acknowledge but also address systemic racism? Marlene Even spoke with Antoinette Lattouf, Co-Founder of Media Diversity Australia and Journalist, about her new book 'How to Lose Friends and Influence White People'. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week we compare American and Australian national election media coverage. We discuss where our politics is, what role the media may have played shaping the very process it's reporting on and can the media fight back or change? Monica Attard spoke with Damien Cave, New York Times and Michael Miller, The Washington Post. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

As week two of the election campaign kicks off, Tina Quinn speaks with Sushi Das, Margaret Simons and Amanda Copp to talk discerning fact from fiction, amidst the ever-growing issue of disinformation. And has the media become trapped in reporting on political campaigns as if they were a horse race? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this edition of Fourth Estate, we discuss the sub-genre of election podcasts. Why have they become a staple for media outlets to include in their election coverage? Marlene Even speaks with Dr. Andrea Carson, Associate Professor at La Trobe University, and Columnist Professor Mark Kenny, host of the podcast Democracy Sausage and Director of the National Press Club of Australia. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this edition we discuss Australia's relationship with Pacific Island media. In light of a federal parliamentary committee recommendation that the Australian Government expand its media footprint in the Pacific Island region. Marlene Even spoke with Georgina Kekea, Freelance Journalist based in Solomon Islands, Jemima Garrett, Co-Founder and Co-Convenor of Australia Asia Pacific Media Initiative, and Stefan Armbruster, SBS Correspondent on Queensland and the Pacific. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week, we unpack the media coverage around federal budgets. Beyond ‘winners and losers’ we discuss the stories behind the fine print and lessons from the 2014 budget. Marlene Even spoke with Kishor Napier-Raman, Federal Politics Reporter at Crikey and Michael Roddan, National Correspondent at the Australian Financial Review. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week, two cadet journalists tell us about beginning their career at this unique time and their views on the media landscape. Tina Quinn spoke with Angus Dalton, Sydney Morning Herald and Rafqa Touma, The Guardian Australia. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Fourth Estate continues its Russia-Ukraine coverage this week by discussing how we got here and where to from here in the conflict and in the 'information war'? We hear two separate perspectives- one Ukrainian and one Russian. Monica Attard spoke with Zoya Sheftalovich, a contributing editor for POLITICO and Leonid Ragozin a freelance journalist. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week we take a serious look at Russia's invasion of Ukraine and ask could the West have stopped Putin before he troops crossed into Ukraine. We also discuss the role of the media and has Putin changed the world for ever. Monica Attard spoke with Scott Burchill and Peter Hartcher. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Is a photo from someone's formative years always fair game and what responsibility does the media have to protect someone's mental health? Tina Quinn speaks with Jacqueline Maley, a Columnist and Senior Writer at the Sydney Morning Herald and Age, Amy Remeikis a Political Reporter for The Guardian Australia, and Karen Percy Chair of Dart Centre Asia-Pacific, Non-Executive Director of the Walkley Foundation and Federal Media President of the Media Entertainment and Arts Alliance. Content warning: This discussion includes references of trauma, sexual abuse and assault. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week on Fourth Estate, we dive into the world of opinion polling as a precursor to Australia's looming federal election. Toby Hemmings talks with Peter Lewis, Executive Director of Essential Media, and John Utting, Executive Director of Utting Research. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week, Prue Clarke talks with Julian Cribb, co-founder of the Council of Human Future and Kyle Pope, the editor of the Columbia Journalism Review about how to cover climate change as it happens right now. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Fourth Estate returns to examine the allure of podcasting as a medium, why Joe Rogan is so popular and why every news organisation is trying to make their own version of The Daily. Hosted by Toby Hemmings with guests James Cridland, editor of Podnews and Siobhan McHugh, author of The Power of Podcasting. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week, Toby Hemmings discusses the biggest stories of 2021 with Jacqueline Maley, columnist for the Sydney Morning Herald and The Age, Kishor Napier-Raman, federal politics reporter for Crikey and Rachel Baxendale, Victorian political reporter for The Australian. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week on Fourth Estate, Toby Hemmings examines the state of Australian arts criticism with Michael Sun, editorial assistant at the Guardian, Lauren Carroll Harris, writer and curator, and Alison Croggon, arts editor at The Saturday Paper. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

As she hangs up the Breakfast mic for the final time, Fran Kelly sits down with Fourth Estate’s Tina Quinn, talking 17 years of RN Breakfast, her decades in broadcast and what lies ahead. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Last year's pandemic stopped many journalists in place. But for Gina Chua, it was an opportunity to go forward as her true self. Gina transitioned genders during lockdown in New York. Now, in her role as executive editor at Reuters, she sits down over Zoom with Prue Clarke to discuss her transition, her career as a media executive and the importance of representation in newsrooms. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week, Tina Quinn sits down with Lisa Davies as she finishes up an eventful five year tenure as Editor of The Sydney Morning Herald. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

COVID-19 impacted on regional newspapers, forcing many to shut. But regional communities still have a hunger for news and from these news deserts, the green shoots of community publications emerged. So after a long year of lockdowns, how are these publications faring? This week, Monica Attard speaks with Susanna Freymark, the editor of the Richmond River Independent and indynr.com and Matt Nicholls, the editor of the Cape York Weekly. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Over the past few weeks, a series of drip-fed leaks have further tarnished the Facebook brand in the US. Regulation seems unavoidable but is it too little too late to put the misinformation back in the bottle? This week, Prue Clarke is joined by Ben Smith from The New York Times and Sacha Molitorisz from the Centre for Media Transition to discuss Frances Haugen's rollout strategy and the international effort to regulate social media. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Audiences are looking for news that entertains them and keep them engaged. Self-made commentators like FriendlyJordies are using social media platforms to grow their following and blur the traditional boundaries between news, satire and commentary. This week, Tina Quinn was joined by Julian Morrow from The Chaser and Brad Esposito from VICE Australia for a wide-ranging discussion about commentators, cut through and defamation. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Generation Z doesn't sit down in front of the nightly news to get its information. Instead, it's all available in their Instagram feeds or on their TikTok for you pages. This week, Prue Clarke sits down with Matilda Boseley from Guardian Australia and Sam Koslowski from The Daily Aus to discuss how everything is content, the psychology of explainer journalism and why trust remains the essential for social-first journalists. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Last week, Gaven Morris announced that he would be leaving his position as Director of ABC News at the end of his current contract. This week, he joins Monica Attard for a one on one covering why he's leaving, his regrets and the controversies from his time at the top of the national broadcaster. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week we ask did sections of the media feed or even lean into some of the more bizarre and emotional statements of grief made since Gladys Berejiklian resigned over her investigation at ICAC. We also ask was Dominic Perrottet's religious beliefs fair game and was he treated fairly by the media? Monica Attard spoke with Lucy Cormack and Troy Bramston. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices