Fourth Estate

This week we chat with comedian and news satirist Dan Ilic about his craft, podcasting, and fighting disinformation. Produced and hosted by Anthony Dockrill Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week in our second look at the media and the Voice referendum we turn our attention to the ABC. Join us as we engage in a thought-provoking discussion with industry experts Quentin Dempster and Alan Sunderland. Produced and hosted by Anthony Dockrill Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week we look over the wreckage from the Voice Referendum and ask did our media do its job and did we also just see a shift in the way politics is argued in this country. Our guest this week is Professor Mark Kenny. Produced and hosted by Anthony Dockrill Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week we look at the nature and tone of the debate around the Voice and we also ask are recent changes to Twitter (X) the final straw for media organisations on the platform. Our guests were Paul Karp and Charlie Lewis. Produced and hosted by Anthony Dockrill Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week we have a special chat with comedian and satirist Mark Humphries about his career and what he thinks of satire and the media. Produced and hosted by Anthony Dockrill Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This is the full recording of the recent UTS Truth-Telling and News seminar. Panelists: Lorena Allam, Indigenous Affairs Editor, The Guardian Australia; Dr Archie Thomas, Chancellor's Postdoctoral Research Fellow, UTS; Associate Professor Inker-Anni Sara, Sámi University of Applied Sciences; Professor Eli Skogerbo, Department of Media and Communication, University of Oslo Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Recently a seminar was held at UTS Sydney called Truth-Telling and News Media. The event had a range of speakers talking about the issues and cultural awareness needed for our media to conduct truth-telling about indigenous peoples and the aftermath of colonialism. The seminar was facilitated by Dr Archie Thomas who is the Chancellor's Postdoctoral Research Fellow at UTS. Panelists were Lorena Allam, Indigenous Affairs Editor, The Guardian Australia; Associate Professor Inker-Anni Sara, Sámi University of Applied Sciences; Professor Eli Skogerbo, Department of Media and Communication, University of Oslo This episode is an edited excerpt from the seminar. If you want to hear the full seminar it is available now in the Fourth Estate Podcast feed. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week we talk with Thomas Mayo and Kerry O'Brien about their new book The Voice To Parliament Handbook. In a wide-ranging discussion, we talk about why the Voice is necessary and how the media should cover the debate. Produced and hosted by Anthony Dockrill Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week we look at Elon Musk's moves to remove the block function from Twitter/X. We spoke to Dr. Jay Daniel Thompson from RMIT Produced and hosted by Anthony Dockrill Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week we talk with Lucinda Holdforth about her new book 21st-Century Virtues: How They Are Failing Our Democracy. Produced and hosted by Anthony Dockrill Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week's program is a chat with Stuart Coupe about his new book Shake Some Action. Stuart takes us through his decades-long career as a journalist working in the music industry. Producer and host was Anthony Dockrill Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week we speak with Leonid Ragozin about Prigozhin's failed mutiny and what this means for Putin. Your host this week was Monica Attard Produced by Anthony Dockrill Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week we speak with independent journalist Antony Loewenstein about his new book called The Palestine Laboratory. Your host Monica Attard Produced by Anthony Dockrill Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week we speak with academic and author Dr. Chrisanthi Giotis. Her new book is called Borderland and it explores how colonisation and long-standing processes of Western journalism have distorted how we view Africa. This edition is produced and hosted by Anthony Dockrill Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this week's episode, Chris Masters talks to Monica Attard about the stunning victory he and Nick McKenzie had over Ben Roberts-Smith. In what was one of the biggest and most expensive defamation cases in recent memory we get Chris's insights and methods on taking down a myth. Produced by Anthony Dockrill Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Our first show of 2023 focused on AI. Four months later, we revisited this topic with the same guests, Dr. Sacha Molitorisz and Charlie Lewis. Since then, significant developments have occurred in the AI space, and our discussion this time addressed the challenges we now encounter with this emerging technology. Produce and hosted by Anthony Dockrill Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week we look at the latest report from Media Diversity Australia titled Online Saftey of Diverse Journalists. To discuss the report and the scale and also, the kinds of abuse diverse journalists are experiencing we spoke to Professor Bronwyn Carlson and Dr Faith Valencia-Forrester. Produced and hosted by Anthony Dockrill. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week we speak with Eric Beecher, the chairman and co-founder of Private Media which publishes Crikey. Monica Attard spoke to him about Lachlan Murdoch ceasing his defamation action against Crikey and what it means for Crikey and the Australian media. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week we turn our attention to the biggest defamation payout in US history. Fox News has this week agreed to pay 787 Million US dollars to Dominion which supplied voting machines to the 2020 presidential election. To discuss what this means we spoke to Paddy Manning. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week we speak with UTS Professor Wanning Sun about the recent Red Aert series in the SMH and the Age and how Chinese Australians consume the media. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week we take a wide-ranging look at the political trends in Australia and America and ask are the two countries growing apart and what role is the media playing in the potential differences we are now seeing emerge between the two countries. Monica Attard spoke with Damien Cave and Jennifer Hewitt. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week we speak with Margaret Simons about her new book Tanya Plibersek - On Her Own Terms. Plibersek has a 25-year-plus career in politics but she set out originally to be a journalist and her relationship with the media is also unusual in many ways. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week we look at the SMH and the Age's recent series on a possible coming war with China and ask was this series a timely look at a major coming threat or if was it alarmist as Paul Keating recently claimed. We also look at Aukus and discuss how this week's announcement will be viewed by China. Monica Attard spoke with ABC's Bill Birtles. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week we look at the Russian invasion of Ukraine as the war grinds into its second year. Monica Attard and Leonid Ragozin discuss the war and the changing narratives within some sections of the media. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week we discuss what AI like ChatGPT means for journalism and whether jobs are at risk. To discuss this we are joined by Dr. Sacha Molitorisz from UTS and Charlie Lewis of Crikey. The program was produced and presented by Anthony Dockrill Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode we reflect on the media reportage of harassment and violence against women and children in 2022. How has the national discussion and media reportage changed since 2021 and what lessons do we take into 2023? Marlene Even spoke with Amber Schultz, Associate Editor for Crikey and Jane Gilmore, author, journalist, and consent educator. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

What is the role of a journalist and what makes New Zealand journalism unique? In this episode, we compare Australian and New Zealand journalism and discuss the 'Worlds of Journalism Study 2.0. Journalists in Aotearoa/ New Zealand' report. Marlene Even spoke with the lead researcher of the report Associate Professor Dr James Hollings and Carmen Parahi, Pou Tiaki matua of Stuff. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week we look at the latest report from Media Diversity Australia titled Who gets to tell Australian stories 2.0. We looked at the first report back in 2020 and since then the story has not changed very much at all. To help us unpack the latest report but also look at the road ahead we spoke with Dr Lee Martin and Sushi Das. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In the aftermath of the United States midterm election and in the whirlwind of a Musk owned Twitter, Monica Attard spoke with American journalist Ben Smith, Editor-in-Chief of Semafor- a global news organisation. The two esteemed journalists discuss the American media coverage of the midterm elections. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Journalists are watching on as Twitter transforms under new management. The social media platform recently switched hands from being a publicly listed company to one owned by a small group led by billionaire Elon Musk. We discuss how Twitter has shaped the industry and where do journalists go now in the wake of a Musk owned Twitter? Marlene Even spoke with Cam Wilson, associate editor of Crikey and Ariel Bogle, technology reporter with ABC Radio National. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Who is Lachlan Murdoch? In any given discussion about the Australian media, the word 'Murdoch' will inevitably arise but what do you actually know about him? Anthony Dockrill spoke with journalist and author Paddy Manning about his new unauthorised biography of Lachlan Murdoch called 'The Successor'. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

How do journalists report on the climate crisis when dealing with cautious sources? You might have heard of the allegations surrounding the Bureau of Meteorology’s work culture, but what experience have journalists had when holding the microphone up to various public institutions to talk about the climate crisis? Marlene Even spoke with environment reporters Graham Readfearn, The Guardian Australia and Alex Crowe, The Canberra Times. To read The Bureau of Meteorology's full statement visit the 2ser website. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Ten years ago former Australian Prime Minister Julia Gillard made the historic misogyny speech. In this edition, we discuss the media coverage of the misogyny speech back then and how it has made headlines globally since. Tina Quinn spoke with Samantha Maiden, political editor for News.com.au and Jess Hill, dedicated gendered violence reporter for Primer. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In light of the Optus data breach, we discuss what role the media has when reporting on cyber attacks and data security? Tina Quinn spoke with Jarni Blakkarly, investigative journalist for CHOICE, Nick Bonyhady, technology editor of Sydney Morning Herald and The Age, and Amber Schultz, associate editor & investigative journalist for Crikey. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Does your community have a local newspaper? Amidst a decline in local newspapers, who fills that gap of information? There is a growing movement of journalists establishing their own hyperlocal digital media start-ups to provide news for their community. Hear from two journalists that started their own news service and find out about the newly established Local and Independent News Association which will support them. Marlene Even spoke with Claire Stuchbery, Executive Director of Local & Independent News Association, Mark Phillips, founder, publisher, and editor of Brunswick Voice, and Peri Strathearn, Managing Editor of Murray Bridge News. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week's major news headline- the death of Queen Elizabeth II. In this edition, we discuss how the media has and is still covering the death of the Queen and the discussions around Australia’s relationship with the monarchy. Tina Quinn spoke with Geraldine Doogue, host of ABC Radio National’s Saturday Extra and Peter Fray, Editor-in-chief of Crikey and Managing Editor of Private Media. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

A growing amount of newsrooms are undergoing mobile journalism (MOJO) training. In this edition, listen to two esteemed MOJO journalists and trainers about what makes someone a MOJO and how is this news gathering practice impacting the media landscape? Marlene Even spoke with Corinne Podger, Director and Principal of the Digital Skills Agency and a qualified trainer for the BBC and Reuters and Saffron Howden, National Editorial Trainer for Australian Community Media. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The media are nicknaming the Crikey V. Lachlan Murdoch defamation case a ‘David and Goliath’ battle. Anthony Dockrill spoke with Crikey’s editor-in-chief Peter Fray and journalist Janine Perrett about the case and Australia’s defamation law broadly. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this edition of Fourth Estate, we discuss the role of multilingual news in Australian media. What needs to be considered when interpreting and re-expressing news into multiple languages? Marlene Even spoke with David Hua, Director of Audio and Language Content at SBS, Russell Anderson, Chief Executive Officer of the National Ethnic and Multicultural Broadcasters’ Council (NEMBC), and Kelly Baylis, the Recording and Production Co-ordinator of the Aboriginal Interpreter Service. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

When is it okay for politicians to go out partying? In light of the Finnish Prime Minister Sanna Marin, partying in her downtime and Australian Prime Minister Anthony Albanese recently sculling beer at a music concert, we ask if a double standard exists between female and male politicians and is the media perpetuating gender tropes? Tina Quinn spoke with associate editor & investigative journalist of Crikey News, Amber Schultz and the Hon. Mary Delahunty. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

New research has found that TV audiences in the United States tended to have more narrow news diets than their social media counterparts. In this edition of Fourth Estate, we discuss the state of partisan politics in America, echo chambers, and lessons for the Australian media. Monica Attard spoke with Bernard Keane, Political Editor at Crikey and Nick O’Malley, National Environment and Climate Editor at the Sydney Morning Herald and The Age. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this edition, we discuss the role of the solo video journalist. How can these 'one-person TV crews' cover stories that a traditional team couldn't and is the role sustainable? Tina Quinn spoke with Johanna Marie, Video Journalist with ABC News and Chris Campey, Chief of Staff and senior journalist with 10 News First. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

As Meta stops funding U.S. news publishers for their Facebook News Tab content, how could recent changes to social media impact Australia’s media industry? Marlene Even spoke with Rafqa Touma, reporter for Guardian Australia and Nick Bonyhady, technology editor of the Sydney Morning Herald and The Age. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Black Lives Matter sparked a ‘media reckoning’ in other countries but what happened in Australia? In the final episode of the 6-part Blak Bias podcast series, co-hosts Rhianna Patrick and Madeline Hayman-Reber discuss the treatment of Indigenous journalists who broke their silence on their experience inside mainstream media organisations. We hear from Carmen Parahi about Stuff.co.nz’s apology to Maori for how the major New Zealand news organisation portrayed Māori people and reported on Māori issues for the past 160 years. Warning: The following episode briefly discusses the reportage of child abuse so if this is likely to raise anything for you, please give 13 YARN (13- 92-76), the national 24/7 Indigenous crisis line a call or Lifeline on 13 11 14. Blak Bias is a collaboration between IndigenousX.com.au, the University of Technology Sydney (UTS), and 2SER Radio. It has been made possible with the support of the Judith Neilson Institute for Journalism and Ideas (JNI). Co-hosts: Rhianna Patrick and Madeline Hayman-Reber. Produced, edited, and mixed by Marlene Even at 2SER Radio. More information: Read Stuff.Co.NZ apology here: https://bit.ly/3BkkRre *Since the recording of this episode the Director of News at the Australian Broadcasting Corporation (ABC) has apologised to past and present Indigenous staff for their treatment. Read more here: https://ab.co/3S4sJCT Tile artwork: “Buldyan” (Grandfather), 2018 by Shannon Foster. Commissioned for the Centre for the Advancement of Indigenous Knowledges at UTS. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

There’s a fine line between race and racism when dissecting the Australian mainstream media and its reportage of Indigenous Affairs. Over the last decade, conservative columnists and reporters in conservative legacy media have generated public debate over the validity of the Racial Discrimination Act. At the same time, Indigenous communities have accused the same media of covert and overt racism in reporting. TV presenter, journalist, and Whadjuk Noongar woman Narelda Jacobs explores coverage of the death in custody of Kumanjayi Walker and the resulting trial. While Professor Heidi Norman from UTS discusses the coverage of the Cindy Prior case, which became subject to a nationwide debate around racial discrimination. Warning: The following episode discusses the reportage of Aboriginal Deaths in Custody so if this is likely to raise anything for you, please give 13 YARN (13- 92-76), the national 24/7 Indigenous crisis line a call. Blak Bias is a collaboration between IndigenousX.com.au, the University of Technology Sydney (UTS), and 2SER Radio. It has been made possible with the support of the Judith Neilson Institute for Journalism and Ideas (JNI). Co-hosts: Rhianna Patrick and Madeline Hayman-Reber. Produced, edited, and mixed by Marlene Even at 2SER Radio. More information: Racialised opinion pieces in Australian mainstream media 2019-2020 - A snapshot- https://bit.ly/3BnXVYe Are Aboriginal people a threat to the modern nation?: A study of newsprint coverage of a racial discrimination complaint - https://bit.ly/3vmviXh The Australian’s coverage of Zachary Rolfe verdict condemned as ‘national disgrace’, Guardian Australia, March 2022 -https://bit.ly/3PUO3sE Tile artwork: “Buldyan” (Grandfather), 2018 by Shannon Foster Commissioned for the Centre for the Advancement of Indigenous Knowledges at UTS. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

How much do mainstream journalists understand the nuances of land rights, native title, and Indigenous land ownership? From the birth of the land rights movement to the introduction of native title laws, mainstream media has often struggled to report accurately on issues of Indigenous land ownership. Professor Heidi Norman discusses how this reportage has impacted on the aspirations and self-determination of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islanders while Dr Valerie Cooms, Chairwoman of the Quandamooka Yoolooburrabee Aboriginal Corporation gives you the community perspective on what it's like to be on the other side of those stories. Blak Bias is a collaboration between IndigenousX.com.au, the University of Technology Sydney (UTS), and 2SER Radio. It has been made possible with the support of the Judith Neilson Institute for Journalism and Ideas (JNI). Co-hosts: Rhianna Patrick and Madeline Hayman-Reber. Produced, edited, and mixed by Marlene Even at 2SER Radio. More information: Does the Media Fail Aboriginal Political Aspirations - https://bit.ly/3S6AwQU Rural radio and the everyday politics of settlement on Indigenous land, 2019 (A study of ABC Radio’s Country Hour programme) - https://bit.ly/3Oxj59b Tile artwork: “Buldyan” (Grandfather), 2018 by Shannon Foster. Commissioned for the Centre for the Advancement of Indigenous Knowledges at UTS. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

When should the race of someone be identified in a news story and when shouldn’t it? If Indigeneity is excluded from a news story it can obscure racism–but if it’s featured, it can encourage racism and further add to media stereotyping of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islanders. CEO of Ngaarda Media, Tangiora Hinaki, shares how racial stereotyping played out in the recent case of the abduction of 4 year old Cleo Smith, and how Indigenous media uncovered the wrongful identification of her alleged kidnapper. Hear about the long history of media reporting on race with Andrew Jakubowicz, Emeritus Professor of Sociology at UTS. Warning: The following episode briefly discusses the reportage of child sexual abuse so if this is likely to raise anything for you, please give 13 YARN (13- 92-76), the national 24/7 Indigenous crisis line a call or Lifeline on 13 11 14. Blak Bias is a collaboration between IndigenousX.com.au, the University of Technology Sydney (UTS), and 2SER Radio. It has been made possible with the support of the Judith Neilson Institute for Journalism and Ideas (JNI). Co-hosts: Rhianna Patrick and Madeline Hayman-Reber. Produced, edited, and mixed by Marlene Even at 2SER Radio. More information: Race media and Identity in Australia - https://bit.ly/3b7tbA0 Tile artwork: “Buldyan” (Grandfather), 2018 by Shannon Foster. Commissioned for the Centre for the Advancement of Indigenous Knowledges at UTS. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

For a long time, Indigenous stories were mostly reported by non-Indigenous journalists. But that seems to be changing. A growing cohort of Indigenous journalists and the rise of the Indigenous digital content creators are making waves across both mainstream and Indigenous media. Lachlan Skinner, founder of the first Indigenous internet radio station, One Mob Radio on Gumbaynggirr country, and James Saunders, former Chief Operating Officer of IndigenousX.com.au discuss the changing Indigenous media landscape, and the new platforms and initiatives shaking things up. *Please note, at the time of recording James Saunders was the Chief Operating Officer (COO) of IndigenousX.com.au but he is now the former COO. Blak Bias is a collaboration between IndigenousX.com.au, the University of Technology Sydney, (UTS), and 2SER Radio. It has been made possible with the support of the Judith Neilson Institute for Journalism and Ideas (JNI). Co-hosts: Rhianna Patrick and Madeline Hayman-Reber. Produced, edited, and mixed by Marlene Even at 2SER Radio. More information: Who Gets to Tell Australian Stories study: https://bit.ly/3PAXPjW Does the media fail Aboriginal political aspirations: 45 years of news media reporting key political moments - https://bit.ly/3z4MSAm Listen to One Mob: https://onemobradio.com.au/ Tile artwork: “Buldyan” (Grandfather), 2018 by Shannon Foster Commissioned for the Centre for the Advancement of Indigenous Knowledges at UTS. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This edition is the first part of the 6-part Blak Bias podcast series. From keeping students connected to their schooling during the pandemic to helping coordinate clean up efforts after floods, Indigenous media does more than just report on what’s happening. The Guardian Australia’s Indigenous Affairs editor, Lorena Allam, explains the work of Indigenous media during times of crisis. She explains how The Guardian’s approach to reporting the outbreak of COVID-19 in Indigenous communities in western New South Wales put the government on notice about vaccination rates. But at the same time, mainstream news too often fell into victim-blaming. Blak Bias is a collaboration between IndigenousX.com.au, the University Technology Sydney (UTS), and 2SER Radio. It has been made possible with the support of the Judith Neilson Institute for Journalism and Ideas (JNI). Co-hosts: Rhianna Patrick and Madeline Hayman-Reber. Produced, edited, and mixed by Marlene Even at 2SER Radio. More information: Above and Beyond: A study of First Nations media and the COVID-19 pandemic https://apo.org.au/node/316152 Tile artwork: “Buldyan” (Grandfather), 2018 by Shannon Foster Commissioned for the Centre for the Advancement of Indigenous Knowledges at UTS. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

How has the Australian media represented Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander communities? Blak Bias is an in-depth look at Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander communities in the news – everything from the COVID-19 pandemic to land rights to the Cleo Smith case. Racist stereotypes, deficit narratives, and unethical practices are still everywhere in mainstream media – this podcast explores how and why these patterns keep repeating. Hosted by Indigenous journalists Rhianna Patrick and Madeline Hayman-Reber, the six-part series exposes how bringing Indigenous perspectives to the newsroom is often misunderstood as bias – rather than expertise. Based on research by Professor Heidi Norman, Archie Thomas and the team at the Centre for the Advancement of Indigenous Knowledges (CAIK) at the University of Technology Sydney (UTS), Blak Bias takes you deep into the news to understand–and challenge–the colonial narratives of Australian mainstream media. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices