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On today's show, we stop everything and help Flip Your Life Community Member Crystal Harper navigate a difficult situation. Crystal has been investing time and money into growing her Facebook page and group. Then one day she logged in and her entire account was disabled! We help her create step-by-step plan to not only get her Facebook account back, but also make sure she grows her audience on other platforms so she is not reliant on one traffic source! It's an emergency coaching call on today's Flipped Lifestyle Podcast!

In this special edition of The Flipped Lifestyle Podcast, we address the Coronavirus outbreak, and discuss ways you and your family can prepare for the global pandemic, it's impact on the economy, and how you can overcome the fear of the virus to make good decisions over the next few months in your life and business!

Imagine 2000 people paying you $29, $49, even $109 each month! Do the math! We are talking over $1M /year online! That's exactly what happened to Jeff Twiddy! Jeff started listening to the Flipped Lifestyle Podcast a few years ago, joined the Flip Your Life Community and started taking massive action! We first introduced you to Jeff in episode 104 (listen here: https://flippedlifestyle.com/podcast104/) In that episode, Jeff's membership was taking off! He was making great money, and had created enough monthly revenue for his wife to come home! Then... things got crazy! Jeff's membership has went from successful, to a full blown online empire of 2000 paying customers! Crazy right!?!? In today's episode, you will learn how Jeff Scaled his membership in record time, and how he's truly living the Flipped Lifestyle with his wife and kids! If you have an online dream, you do not want to miss this episode of The Flipped Lifestyle Podcast! Enjoy! Shane & Jocelyn

In today's show, we answer questions from the Flip Your Life Community, including: How to outsource vital tasks in your membership site, lead generation using public limited time challenges, and the pros and cons of offering lifetime memberships! Enjoy today's Q&A with S&J!

On today's episode of The Flipped Lifestyle Podcast, I welcome my good friend Grant Baldwin on the show! Grant Baldwin is a prolific speaker, keynoting events all over the country. He coaches speakers hot to consistently find and book speaking gigs to grow their business! Whether you're just starting out in the speaking world, or you've been a speaker for years, Grant has exactly what you need to launch, build, and grow a speaking career! Jocelyn and I have used public speaking to grow our brand for years. Whether it's at our own live events... or at major conferences like FlynnCon... We have been using speaking to grow our membership business! Being on stage elevates you (literally and figuratively) in the eyes of an audience. It lends instant credibility, authority, and legitimacy to your brand. When you speak at a live event, you earn instant know, like, and trust ... almost celebrity status ... just for being on stage! (Exactly what you need to grow your membership). In today's podcast, Grant and I breakdown exactly how to use public speaking to grow your membership site, and get more members! You will learn: How to turn a high ticket course into a recurring revenue overnight using self-financed payment plans! How to use public speaking opportunities to grow your audience and your email list! How to sell more memberships directly from stage at your next speaking events! It doesn't matter if you want to speak full time, or just want to speak a few times per year to enhance your personal brand ... this episode has everything you need to get started! Enjoy! I know this episode has some golden information that will help you... Flip Your Life!™ Shane Flipped Lifestyle™ Membership Masters™

Hey Y'all, welcome to another Q&A w/ S&J! This is the podcast where we answer all of your questions about memberships! In today's show we discuss: Whether or not you should open and close your memberships. How to use monthly special promotions to sell more memberships. How to warm up a cold email list and improve your email marketing. How to bust through sales plateaus in your membership. Whether or not you should put a sign up / sales button on every page of your website. How to make amazing courses for your online membership business! We also celebrate some amazing success stories from The Flip Your Life Community! Enjoy the show! Shane & Jocelyn Flipped Lifestyle™ Membership Masters™ Flip Your Life™

On this week's Flipped Lifestyle Podcast we welcome back one of our favorite guests and Flip Your Life Community members - Teresa Perleberg! We first shared Teresa's story on Podcast 191 - click here to listen! On that episode, we learned that Teresa was building her membership business around needle felting! What is needle felting? Needle felting is a process which uses barbed needlesto interlock wool fibers to form a more condensed material. Click Teresa's Site to learn more: https://bearcreekfelting.com/felting-101/ Teresa not only provides the sheep wool to her customers, she teaches them how to needle felt the wool into AMAZING creations! In episode 191 we helped Teresa improve her engagement and retention in her budding membership business. And WOW did she take action! Teresa now runs a $250,000 needle felting empire from the plains of North Dakota! In today's episode, you will learn: How she grew her quarter million dollar business! How partnerships were the key to taking her membership to the next level! How she BOUGHT A SCHOOL, and what she plans to do with it (it's INCREDIBLE)! We know this episode of the Flipped Lifestyle Podcast will inspire you to take your membership to the next level as well! Enjoy! -Shane & Jocelyn Flip Your Life™ Ready to start your online membership business? We can help! Click here to learn more: https://flippedlifstyle.com/flipyourlife

On today's Q&A we talk about: How do I host a giveaways to grow my business? How to use limited time offers and limited opportunity offers to make more sales. How to improve member and customer experience for your members to create more lifetime value per customer. How to know if I need to improve my marketing or my product idea? How do I know if I have enough content to launch my membership? And celebrate: Crystal's launch with 29 new members! And more!

This week we welcome Flip Your Life Community member Ben Landers on the show! We celebrate his incredible success story and explain how Ben had his first six figure year online! Listen in, and learn how you can too!

In this episode of the Flipped Lifestyle Podcast we answer online business questions and celebrate the success of real Flip Your Life Community members! Today, we answer questions about launching podcasts, making more sales on webinars, and how to price your memberships! We also celebrate Daniel and Tawnya growing their memberships! Learn more at https://flppedlifestyle.com/flipyourlife Today's Questions & Case Studies: Nicola - "How do I get started in podcasting? I want to launch a podcast, but I don't know where to start." Beth - "What is the best platform for hosting webinars?" Daniel - SUCCESS: Daniel gets 45 new members! Tawnya - SUCCESS: Celebrates new members and FINALLY reaches the next level! Tyler - "What is the best price for your membership: monthly or annual?"

Imagine getting 1000 people to pay you $26 per month! That's exactly what Jennifer accomplished in just two years inside the Flip Your Life Community! Listen to today's podcast, and learn how she did it (and how you can too). Enjoy the show! -Shane & Jocelyn

In today's episode, we help Kenny and Nancy determine priorities to help grow their business. FULL TRANSCRIPT Jocelyn Sams: Hey, y'all. On today's podcast, we're going to show you how to make a living raising chickens. Shane Sams: Welcome to the Flipped Lifestyle podcast where life always comes before work. We're your hosts, Shane and Jocelyn Sams. We're a real family that figured out how to make our entire living online. And now we help other families do the same. Are you ready to flip your life? All right. Let's get started. Shane Sams: What's going on, everybody? Welcome back to the Flipped Lifestyle podcast. It is great to be back with you again today. I am super excited for this episode. I know I'm super excited every week. I'm always excited. That's what I do. I just live excited. But I am really, really excited about this one because we have an awesome guest for the show today that we met at a live event. They're out there in the Flipped Lifestyle universe, listen to the podcast all the time, and we got to talk to them at a live event and they have one of the best niche markets I've ever heard in my entire life and I cannot wait to share this episode with you today. Please help us welcome our guests, Kenny and Nancy Troiano. Guys, welcome to the program. Kenny Troiano: Well, thank you for having us. It's a pleasure. It's an honor, actually, because we've been listening to you for so long. It's amazing that we're actually able to do this. Nancy Troiano: Yeah, really glad to be with you. Jocelyn Sams: I love it. Yes. It is great to talk to you guys. We actually just met you not too long ago in California, so it's great to talk to you again and I can't wait to dive in to what it is you're doing. Shane Sams: Yeah, we were speaking at an event out in San Diego and we said, "Hey, let's have a meetup." So we put the all points bulletin out to all the Flipped Lifestyle email list. We said, "Hey, is anybody in San Diego. I know this is last minute, but we're going to be-" Jocelyn Sams: "Come meet us tonight." Shane Sams: "Come meet us on this patio at this random hotel in San Diego." And you guys showed up and I'm so glad you did, because you have an amazing story. Kenny Troiano: I saw the email. I said, "Hey, what the heck, let's throw that out there, see if they'll want to talk." And you guys invited us. And then I told Nancy right away, I called her on the phone. She was at work and I said, "You won't believe this, but we've been invited to talk to Shane and Jocelyn. You want to go?" And she's like, "Yeah." Nancy Troiano: Heck yeah. Shane Sams: "Heck yeah we do." And we were sitting around a fire and I remember everybody was sitting around it like, we had a lot of people show up. There was like 25 or 30 people ended up around those two fires that we had. And I remember sitting in front of that fire at first and the wind was blowing out on that patio and I thought I was going to get set on fire. And then the people that were hosting the live event, it was Pat Flynn's Flynn-Con event and his business partner comes up to me and goes, "Shane, Shane, Shane." And is said, "What's up, man?" And he goes, "They told us that you had the whole patio reserved and we've got all our sponsors and we want to come out here and sit on the patio." And I'm like, "We don't have the whole patio reserved." He's like asking us at his event if they could come out on the patio and I was like, "That's right. Flipped Lifestyle is taking over the world, baby." Nancy Troiano: Yes, they are. Kenny Troiano: I was actually standing next to you when he said that to you. Shane Sams: Oh, yeah. Right. That was amazing. Jocelyn Sams: That was a little weird. All right. Let's tell everybody else what you guys do out there. And they might be a little bit surprised at what you do because you guys are living in California and I think a lot of people don't really associate California with farm life. Shane Sams: And livestock and stuff like that. Kenny Troiano: California's actually a pretty big agricultural community. Shane Sams: We were just talking about this with our assistant. She was like ... First of all, you tell everybody what you do and tell us a little bit about your background and your online business, and then we'll talk more about what's happening out in California. Kenny Troiano: First of all, I teach people how to breed chickens. And I've been doing this for over 20 years. Actually teaching for almost 30 years now. But I've been raising chickens for a long time and everything, and maybe 20 some odd years ago, I can't remember exactly, 22 years ago, I'm trying to get the timelines right. The feed stores in my county, we have like a small town, but we have like five feed stores. We had six at one time. And they all do really well. That's how many people raise livestock, it's in every backyard around here. So, the feed stores knew that I raise chickens, so they would send people over to me to answer questions and help them out and get t

In today's episode, we help Theresa design and launch her product. FULL TRANSCRIPT Jocelyn Sams: Hey y'all, on today's show we help Theresa design and launch her product. Shane Sams: Welcome to the Flipped Lifestyle Podcast where life always comes before work. We're your hosts, Shane and Jocelyn Sams. We're a real family that figured out how to make our entire living online. Now, we help other families do the same. Are you ready to flip your life? All right, let's get started. Shane Sams: What's going on everybody. Welcome back to the Flipped Lifestyle Podcast. It is great to be back with you again today. Super excited to welcome another member of the Flipped Lifestyle community onto the show so that we can help them take their business to the next level. We're really, really, really super excited today to welcome Theresa Steckel. Theresa, welcome to the show. Theresa Steckel: Hey guys, thanks for having me. I'm super excited to be here. Shane Sams: And lest you think that Shane and Jocelyn are perfect I'm going to tell you what happened earlier today. We looked up, and I got a notification that said someone had joined a Zoom call. And I looked down, and I was like, "What?" Because we were getting ready for an appointment. We had a student teacher meeting at Isaac's school as we were getting ready- Jocelyn Sams: It was a parent teacher not a student teacher. Shane Sams: Or a parent teacher not a student teacher. That's right. We're not the students. We're the parents. But we had this parent teacher meeting, so we were getting ready to go to that, and I looked down, and I was like, "Oh no. We've double booked, the dreaded double booking when five people are controlling your calendar and you're not one of them." And so I looked over at Jocelyn. I was like, "I think we have a Podcast right now." Jocelyn Sams: And I was like, "What?" And I'm usually such a slave to the calendar. It's so funny. I get up every day, and I look at it, and I'm like, "Oh no we've got A, B, and C to do," but for whatever reason this morning I didn't do that. Shane Sams: And then for some reason we had A and then B, B, B, and C because there was all sorts of stuff going on at the same time. So Theresa was kind enough to move this down a couple hours, and we have finally gotten on the call together. So we are sorry that we stood you up a couple hours ago, Theresa. Theresa Steckel: You know, that is just the way it goes sometimes. Jocelyn Sams: Yup, life happens. I really hate rescheduling Podcasts, but thank you so much for being kind enough to do that for us. Theresa Steckel: You're welcome. I really am just happy to be on the call, so I appreciated you guys rescheduling too. Jocelyn Sams: Alright. Well, I'm excited for you to talk a little bit about your background. We talked about it before. Before people come onto the Podcast we do like a little intake survey so we can learn more about you, and it sort of guides our discussion and lets you know what we're going to be asking you so you can start thinking about it. And one of the things that we ask about is your background, and I think your background is really interesting. So can you get into that just a little bit. Tell us about how you started and what it is that you do and anything else you want to tell us. Theresa Steckel: Yeah, so going way, way back we moved to Oklahoma, I don't know, like 24 years ago, and I became a housekeeper in a nursing home making a whopping $4.25 an hour and decided that ... I got talked into going to an LPN program. One of my friends talked me into it, so I got admitted into this LPN program, and she did not make the class, so I ended up there by myself. Shane Sams: Oh no. Theresa Steckel: Yeah. Shane Sams: What is an LPN? Theresa Steckel: It is a licensed practical nurse so more technical and less assessment and critical thinking. So I worked as an LPN. I was married at the time. We had a daughter. So basically after that worked my way through nursing school and eventually as I was working through nursing school had two kids and a husband, was working full time. Spent a lot of time in pediatric hematology/oncology and then worked in public health for a few years and then decided I thought I wanted to teach. So I went back to school and got a master's with a focus in nursing education. I taught full time for about three years and then but really kind of missed the clinical care. Theresa Steckel: I loved working with students, but I missed sort of that hospital piece of it, that acute care. So I got a full time job in nursing leadership, became a director of patient care. I was in that role for about seven years, and as part of that position I was responsible for 85 to 110 beds kind of depending on which time period you looked at, up to 200 employees at one time. Shane Sams: Whoa. Theresa Steckel: Yeah, 125-200 was kind of ... Usually I sat closer to 120, which was a little more manageable. And then most recently about a year and a half ago was promoted

In today's episode, we explore how to convince your spouse that online business is not a scam. FULL TRANSCRIPT Jocelyn Sams: Hey y'all. On today's podcast, we explore how to convince your spouse that online business is not a scam. Shane Sams: Welcome to the Flipped Lifestyle podcast where life always comes before work. We're your hosts, Shane and Jocelyn Sams. We're a real family that figured out how to make our entire living online. Now, we help other families do the same. Are you ready to flip your life? All right, let's get started. Shane Sams: What's going on everybody? Welcome back to the Flipped Lifestyle podcast. It is great to be back with you again today. I am really excited about today's show. I'm always excited about the show, but I'm super excited about this one because we are welcoming back Daniel Hulsman to the show, and this time he has brought his wife with him, Katelyn Hulsman is here too. So, Daniel, Katelyn, welcome to the show. Daniel Hulsman: Thanks for having us. We're really excited to be back and I'm really excited that Katelyn / nervous that Katelyn is here to talk about what she's doing now. Katelyn Hulsman: Thank you so much for including me. Jocelyn Sams: Absolutely. We were so excited. Not too long ago, Daniel posted about you getting involved in the community and I could not wait to show Shane because the very first words out of our mouth was, "They have to be on the podcast." Shane Sams: They have to be on the podcast. For those of you who may not remember Daniel's first episode on the Flipped Lifestyle podcast, it was episode 212. We actually just posted it again in a best of edition on Saturday of last week. And in that episode we introduced you to Daniel Hulsman. Daniel had written me, I like to call it a scathing email full of doubt and disbelief of what we were doing. Jocelyn Sams: I'm not sure it was quite scathing. Daniel Hulsman: I was trying to get as much fury into it as possible. Shane Sams: There was some fury. There was definitely some fury in this email. But I remember looking at that email and I said, "Hey, I'm going to email this guy back and I'm going to be like, "Hey look, let's talk about this bro. Let's go back and forth."" Jocelyn Sams: And a lot of times when we get emails that are hateful or, whatever, I will just say, "You know what, just delete it and move on." But Shane made it his personal mission to get you on board with what we were doing and he was successful. And I'm happy to say that this is over a year later since we talked to you the first time and you still love us. We're still all friends. Shane Sams: I remember when you sent me that email, and I think I read the whole email in episode 212. So if anybody wants to listen to that, go back to episode 212 and check it out. But, I remember when I read it, at first I was mad and then Jocelyn was kind of like, "Delete it." But then I was like, "I'm going to get this guy to join the community. I don't know how I'm going to do it, but I'm going to get this guy to join the community." I write you an email back, you joined the community, we bring you on the podcast. Turns out your online business was able to make a little money, right? Daniel Hulsman: Yes, it was. It sure was. No, but let's be fair. What you wrote me back was not an email, that was a short novel. Shane Sams: Yes, I prefer a novella. That's what I'm going to go with. Daniel Hulsman: Of course, yes. Shane Sams: I'm going to go with a novella. But yes, I wrote you an epoch. That's what it was. It was an epoch. But it was awesome and I remember you writing me back and it was just kind of like, "All right, you're right. Let's go." Daniel Hulsman: Got enough now. Shane Sams: But then, tell us just a little bit, catch us up what's happened since then. You were back on the podcast again and gave us a little update in episode 263. So, tell us where you're at now that we're over episode ... What is this? It's going to be 300-and-something by the time we release it. So where are you at right now in your online business? Jocelyn Sams: And I just want to say too, it's not been all smooth sailing. Like if you listened to your second episode you were having a lot of like mental doubts and just trying to overcome some obstacles. So, we've worked through a lot of that through the community. We worked through it on the podcast, and now over a year later what's going on? Daniel Hulsman: So, I guess where things are at right now is that we're treading waters the way I would kind of say, like the membership community is inside of our membership site with which we launched a year ago, almost to the day. And it's been going well inside of the community it's been fun. Like we've been doing more … Katelyn gave me some ideas that have like really been resonating with the people inside the membership community, but we're having a really hard time growing it. We never broke in 50, and or we've been hovering between like 30 and 40 pretty much the whole time. We ha

In this Best of Episode we help Daniel decide if he's expert enough to start his online business. This episode was originally published on July 10, 2018. You can check out the original episode here: http://flippedlifestyle.com/podcast212 FULL TRANSCRIPT Jocelyn: Hey, y'all! On today's podcast, we help Daniel decide if he's expert enough to start his online business. Shane: Welcome to the Flipped Lifestyle podcast where life always comes before work. We're your hosts, Shane and Jocelyn Sams. We're a real family who figured out how to make our entire living online. And now, we help other families do the same. Are you ready to flip your life? Alright, let's get started. What's going on everybody? Welcome back to the Flipped Lifestyle podcast, it is great to be back with you again this week! Super excited to have another member of the Flip Your Life community on the show today. I've been looking forward to this specific interview all week, and you're going to learn why here in just a minute. Jocelyn: I'm pretty sure he's talked about it like every single day. Shane: Every single day. I'm so pumped up right now to welcome Daniel Hulsman to the show. Daniel, what's up man? Daniel: Hey, how you guys doing? It's really good to be out here and talking to you both! Jocelyn: We are pumped to have you here, as Shane has mentioned. Shane: I am super pumped to have you here! Jocelyn: Shane loves telling stories, so I'm just going to let him take it away. Shane: Alright, here's how Daniel and I got together, okay? Jocelyn: Something I should know? Shane: No, no. This is a G-rated show, Jocelyn. Alright, so Daniel sent me an email during a recent launch. A few weeks ago, we opened the doors to the Flip Your Life community and started giving everybody out there a month for free. Daniel apparently heard this and signed up and you know, and he went through a couple of the emails and things like that. He had not joined yet, he had not joined the membership yet. So, I wake up one morning, and I get this email because yes, we check our emails, okay. And I get a message and the first line -- what was the subject line on this? Daniel: I'm just shaking my head over here. Shane: I know, right. There was some hater-ade in this email, people. This is a critique, is what I'm about to show you, I'm not going to read the whole thing. But Daniel's sends me this email and says two things -- a little smug Daniel, I'm not going to lie -- but it said two things: "One, your customer service link in this email leads to a 404 page." So that is not a good sign when somebody pointing out a broken link. Jocelyn: When your email starts like that it's probably not going to go too good. Shane: And he made the emoticon, it wasn't even the Emoji. He actually used the type of symbols of a smiley face with a tear. That's sad, guys, we're supposed to have all this together, right? And then he goes on with this giant block text of paragraph about just all sorts of stuff he didn't like in our marketing and things like that, but here's what drew me in. Are you ready for this Daniel? This is the turn to the positive, this is the turn to the light side of the force. Daniel: (sighs) Shane: So he's critiquing all of our sales techniques and blah, blah, blah, and I just heard all of this skepticism in all of this stuff. And then he said, "And you gave me a heart attack on Episode 200 when you said goodbye because I did not want your podcast to go away." So that's where the turn was and it says, "You are changing lives of people like me who want a better life for their families." I read every word of this email and it was really long, and that's the point where I was like, man, I saw something there. I was like, "This guy wants a better life." Then he went on to say, "I've been struggling to get my website off the ground for a few years, and your story inspires me to keep trying." So, all of that criticism, all of that critique, when I got to the end, I realized it was just frustration. It was just a little frustration, a little skepticism, a little "Is this real?" and you've been doing this for a while, and I sent him a message back, my email. I purposefully had to write more words than you did. Daniel: Oh, that was a good little novella. Shane: Yes, yes. There was some massive… this was a no-sugar soliloquy. Jocelyn: Oh, now we're going to get tons of hate mail, so people will get to have-- Shane: Yeah, everybody will just send me hate mail now, like, "Shane will write me back if I do that!" Here's what's funny though. This is the difference between me and Jocelyn. I was writing this email, and when I was doing it, Jocelyn was like, "Are you still writing that guy back?" And I'm like, "Yeah, yeah, I'm still writing. I'm doing it!" Jocelyn: I'm trying to talk to him about stuff, and get things done. And he's like, "No, no, no, I'm writing this email!" Shane: "No, Daniel is getting a message back from me." Jocelyn: I'm like, "Okay." Shane: I could have gone a thous

In today's episode, we help Grant make time for his online business. FULL TRANSCRIPT Jocelyn Sams: Hey y'all. On today's podcast we help Grant make time for his online business. Shane Sams: Welcome to the Flipped Lifestyle Podcast, where life always comes before work. We're your hosts, Shane and Jocelyn Sams. We're a real family that figured out how to make our entire living online, and now we help other families do the same. Are you ready to flip your life? All right, let's get started. Shane Sams: What's going on everybody? Welcome back to the Flipped Lifestyle Podcast. It is great to be back with you again today. We are super excited to welcome another member of the Flip Your Life community onto the show so that we can help them take their online dream to the next level. Shane Sams: Our guest today is our good friend Grant Downes. Grant, welcome to the program. Grant Downes: Hey guys, thank you so much for having me. I appreciate it. Jocelyn Sams: We are very excited to talk to you today. You are coming to us from your vehicle, is that correct? Grant Downes: That's true. So, I am securely fastened here in the van in the garage, which hopefully will insulate me from the kid sounds that are upstairs. Shane Sams: Hey, listen, there is no better acoustics, or there are no better acoustics than inside of your car, inside of your garage. When I first started creating our courses, the very first course I ever created, it was the same thing, it was just chaos, kids running around everywhere. I tried every room in the house, from the basement to our bedroom. Jocelyn Sams: And then you listen to it back and it's like oh, kids screaming. Shane Sams: Oh, just terrible. I can hear kids. So, I went out and locked myself in the garage, got in the car, sat in the back seat in the middle, so I could be as far away from anything as possible, and it sounded great. So, if you're struggling to find a place to record anything, go to your car. Jocelyn Sams: And just remember, please do not run it inside your garage. Shane Sams: Yes, don't turn it on if it's cold. We don't want you to do that. Grant Downes: Yeah, pro tip. Shane Sams: And don't record while you're driving, that's, unless you got a lapel mic or something like that on so it's all good. Jocelyn Sams: All right, so you are at home. You have a family. Let's hear a little bit about them and your background. Grant Downes: Yeah, so I am in eastern Ohio. I live with my wife, Sarah, and my three kids, Charlotte, Henry, and Brenna. I grew up on a tree farm kind of around agriculture, a beautiful 300 acres of rolling farmland here in eastern Ohio, went to school for horticulture, which is basically plant stuff, and then worked kind of a couple different jobs in the plant industry. So, I worked at a nursery for a long time, did a little bit of landscaping, also spent time in agriculture, actually, a feed mill. Now I work as a pesticide and fertilizer inspector for the Ohio Department of Agriculture. Grant Downes: And then what's really awesome about that position, actually, is that I am based out of my house. So, I have a nine county territory that I run around in, and I do inspections, and I meet with people, and investigate complaints, and give tests, and all sorts of things. But I come home every day, start at eight AM in my basement, run out and do what I'm doing, come back home, and then I'm done by 4:30 and I'm already home, so it works out pretty well. Shane Sams: So you're not actually working in your home a lot, you're actually out on the road like going to farms. Do you inspect like the plants, or do you inspect like the chemical barrels of chemicals that they're doing? Like, what do you do? Grant Downes: Not so much plants, but sometimes products. Usually people in licensing is most of what I deal with, and then typically I spend four days in the field and then Friday is an office day. Although, like yesterday, for example, I was at home writing a report. So, I sat in my basement all day and wrote a report. Shane Sams: How does one get into horticulture? Is that what it's called? Agriculture? Grant Downes: Yeah. Shane Sams: That's, like, what makes you obsessed with I want to know everything about plants? Like, that's my job. What is that? Grant Downes: You know, it varies. So, agriculture and horticulture are a little bit separate. Horticulture is more like garden plants, and greenhouse plants, and nursery plants, whereas agriculture is more of your corn, beans, animals, livestock, that sort of thing. Grant Downes: So, I've been in a little bit of both. When I grew up on that tree farm, so that was like growing an ornamental product, basically, and so that's more on the horticulture side of things, but agriculture kind of goes hand in hand. You're still growing, you're still formulating a plan of fertilizer, you know, whatever the case is. So, growing is growing, it just depends on what specific direction you go in. Shane Sams: You know, everybody gets like, all

In today's episode, we help Pat successfully launch a membership website. FULL TRANSCRIPT Jocelyn Sams: Hey y'all. On today's show we help Pat successfully launch a membership website. Shane Sams: Welcome to The Flipped Lifestyle podcast where life always comes before work. We're your hosts, Shane and Jocelyn Sams. We're a real family that figured out how to make our entire living online. And now we help other families do the same. Are you ready to flip your life? All right, let's get started. Shane Sams: What's going on everybody? Welcome back to The Flipped Lifestyle podcast. It is great to be back with you again today. Super excited to help another member of our flip your life community start, build, and grow their own online business. Excited to welcome Pat Eardley to the show today. Pat, welcome to the show. Pat Eardley: Thanks for having me. Jocelyn Sams: We are very excited to talk to you today and I can't wait to see what is going on with you and your business. But before we get there, let's talk a little bit about your background and what led you to kind of pursue online business. Pat Eardley: Currently, okay, so maybe I'll back up and tell you background. So I am from Virginia and I live in Charleston, South Carolina. So like the best place on earth, I believe. And I've lived here for about 12 years. And my background professionally is human resources. I've been in HR for a little over 20 years. So mathematically that means I started when I was about five years-old. Jocelyn Sams: Of course. Yes. Shane Sams: Of course you did. Pat Eardley: And so I have an HR consultancy. I've had this business for 10 years now. This year makes 10 years. And it's myself and I have two employees. But it's just not scalable. We truly are trading dollars for hours. You can say that you're not because there's some automated components, but it really is trading dollars for hours. So that really made me look into online business. And is there a way to scale it by having an online component to the business? Shane Sams: So what exactly is... So you own the business, right? So yourself- Pat Eardley: I do. Shane Sams: So you're kind of in the flipped lifestyle, but your business dominates a lot of your time because you are trading those time for dollars. Correct? Pat Eardley: That's correct. Shane Sams: So you're looking at the other direction. Jocelyn Sams: Well, let's first of all explain HR. Like that's human resources- Shane Sams: For sure. Jocelyn Sams: ... For people who have never been in corporate or maybe they just don't know that. Shane Sams: And what is an HR consultancy? Like what do you? I know there's HR people that work in corporations that handle human resources, and when employees have problems or something like that. But what does an HR consultancy do? Pat Eardley: So what we do is we help small businesses. So typically if you have less than 100 people, you don't have an HR person on staff. It doesn't make sense to have an HR person full time or even part time for that matter. Financially it doesn't work. So what we do is we help small businesses manage the HR component, which is like hiring, firing, the onboarding, the off boarding. What happens when there's bereavement and someone needs an extended amount of time off? Or there's an injury at the workplace? Or maybe it's just annual reviews, like doing that on a regularly scheduled basis. A disciplinary action conversation. Those are the type of HR things that frankly, business owners did not get into business to do. They don't want to manage that stuff. Shane Sams: But they can't afford to basically have someone do it for them. So you're like an HR mercenary, right? It's like a horrible way to say that. But people go out and they're like, "Man, I really wish someone would take all this HR off my plate, but I can't afford to hire anyone. But maybe I can hire Pat and her firm and they'll take care of that." So really you're pretty much maxed out on how many businesses you could ever personally serve because you would have to hire someone else to add more businesses. Because there's only... Like if you're having these HR meetings, and disciplinary meetings, and hiring, and firing. There's only so many hours in the day. So basically in your business now it runs up to a cap, correct? Pat Eardley: You're exactly right. Shane Sams: Like a time. Pat Eardley: There is a cap. It will cap out. And the only way to, I don't know, get beyond it is to hire more people. Shane Sams: Right. Pat Eardley: That's not of interest to me. I don't want to have 20 employees. Shane Sams: Exactly. So you've got the two employees you do now, did you hire them to add more businesses or do they just support you with the businesses that you serve? Pat Eardley: One supports, one adds. Shane Sams: Gotcha. Okay. So basically one was for growth and one was for support. Pat Eardley: Yeah you're right. Shane Sams: Okay, cool. Jocelyn Sams: Okay. So you're doing this consultancy, you have your

In this Best of Episode, we re-visit Chapter 1 of the "Our story" series. We'll be sharing our entire "Our Story" episodes in the Saturday "Best of" releases over the next few weeks. You don't want to miss these! We'll be giving you all the juicy details of who we are, where we began, and how it all happened! This episode was originally published on October 10, 2017. You can check out the original episode here: https://flippedlifestyle.com/podcast164/ FULL TRANSCRIPT Shane: Welcome to the Flipped Lifestyle podcast where life always comes before work. We're your hosts, Shane and Jocelyn Sams. We're a real family who figured out how to make our entire living online. And now, we help other families do the same. Are you ready to flip your life? Alright. Let's get started. What's up, everybody? Welcome back to the Flipped Lifestyle podcast. Great to be back with you again today. This is going to be a solo show with just me and Jocelyn. We are not going to have a guest on the program today. As we continue to tell you a little bit more about our story, about how two normal people from Kentucky were able to start an online business with no money, no time, while working full-time, raising kids, and basically, how maybe you can do it, too. That is what we are doing today, we are talking about the next chapter in our story. Last week, we told you a little bit about our early life about where we came from, where we grew up, before Jocelyn and I knew each other. The next chapter in our story is actually about how we met in college at the University of Kentucky. Jocelyn: Alright, in our last episode, we were talking about how young I was when I went to college. At the time, I thought I was all grown up and independent but looking back now, I realized how incredibly young and naïve I really was. Shane: You technically were not even legally of age. You are not even 18 years old when you moved away from home. But could not even vote when you moved out of your hometown and moved to the big city in Lexington. Jocelyn: And the scary thing about that is I think about how my son is eight. I was nine years older than him when I went to college. That is just scary. I can't even picture my son being that age. I know there is a big difference between 8 and 17. But still there is not as big of a difference as you think. Shane: It is scary. There is no way we would ever let our kids– like Jocelyn, her birthday is on March 27th. My birthday is actually on March 28th. Funny story about that, we will talk about that soon. I will tell you about that later. Jocelyn was born on March 27th. She turned 17 on March 27th of her senior year. Did you move in June? Or when did you move? Jocelyn: I think it was probably like early August of that year. Shane: Yeah, okay. Jocelyn: When I moved into the dorms. I could not wait, I was counting down the minutes. I was just a very independent person. I knew that it would not be a problem. Honestly, I never even really went home. I went home sometimes. You know how sometimes people in college, they will go home every single weekend? Yeah, that was not me. I went home maybe once a month if I had to. Again, it is not because I had a bad home life or anything like that. I was just that fiercely independent. I just wanted to do my own thing. Shane: So you graduated in 97? I had already been in college a year then, right, when you came to college? Jocelyn: Yeah, you were a sophomore when I got there. Shane: I graduated in 1996, and I was kind of the same way. I had a dream my whole life to go to the University of Kentucky. Jocelyn: And I did, too. Shane: Which is hilarious because I didn't really work hard enough in school to actually get the grades to go to college anywhere. But I wanted to go to the University of Kentucky. I refused to go anywhere else, on any college visits, I didn't go look at any other schools, didn't go anywhere. I just wanted to go to the University of Kentucky because I love Kentucky basketball, I loved Kentucky football, and I just really wanted to go live in Lexington. Jocelyn: For me, I just really wanted and escape from small-town life. Most people where I am from, they went to either Western Kentucky University, which is actually where I had my Master's degree from. They went to Murray State University; both are fine schools, nothing wrong with the schools, nothing wrong with them at all. It is just I did not want to go there. I wanted to get away. I wanted to get out of small-town life and experience something new. Funny story is, I even got a scholarship to Murray State University. I had applied to two places, I applied to Murray State, and I applied to UK. I wasn't able to apply for scholarships for UK because you had to have a 28 on the ACT. Shane: So she was just a little shy. Jocelyn: I took it four times, and the highest I could get was a 27. Shane: But she could've went to school for free at Murray. It was like dorms and television, or something. Jocelyn: Part of it was co

In today's episode, we help Brian figure out if his business idea will make money online. FULL TRANSCRIPT Jocelyn: Hey y'all, on today's podcast we help Brian figure out if his business idea will make money online. Shane: Welcome to the Flipped Lifestyle Podcast where life always comes before work. We're your hosts, Shane and Jocelyn Sams. We're a real family that figured out how to make our entire living online. Now we help other families do the same. Are you ready to flip your life? All right, let's get started. Shane: What's going on everybody? Welcome back to the Flipped Lifestyle Podcast. It is great to be back with you again today. Super excited to talk to another member of the Flip Your Life community. You'll have to bear with us. Jocelyn and I are just getting back from a conference, and both of our voices are a little shot. We're still a little jet lagged, but that's not going to hold us back from helping today's Flip Your Life community member, Brian Kelley. Brian, we're tired, but welcome to the show. Brian: Thank you. Thank you for having me. I appreciate it. Shane: And Brian's on the road too. He's on the road too. Brian: I absolutely am, yup. Shane: He's in Chicago at a conference, so he might be a little tired too. We're going to go through this now. We're going to fight through it together. How's that? Brian: That sounds great. Jocelyn: We're excited to talk to you today, Brian. You are coming to our event, which is coming up very, very soon so that is super exciting. And I know that you have been taking a lot of action lately which is how you got on the show today, so congratulations for that. And we can't wait to hear a little bit more about it, but before we get there let's hear about you and your background. Brian: All right. I work in restaurants. I've been in the restaurant industry for about 25 years, and I actually love it. I love my job. I'm married with two kids, and the issue I tend to run into is that I'm concerned about our financial future. I like what I do, but both of our kids have special needs, and it requires extra planning for the future. I don't think that there's a way for me to get my family where we ultimately need to be at retirement with just our incomes. So I'm looking to supplement it with something online. Brian: And then the other reason that I've been pursuing it is just because I think it's a lot of fun. I've listened to your Podcast for a long time now, and I've actually been a member for a year. Everything that I learn that's new and sitting down and actually creating a website and stuff is really intriguing to me. I find it exciting, and I like it, so that's kind of why I chose this path. I'm just looking for any bit of success at this point. I think I've done a lot of the base level stuff. I'm up and rolling, and I'm just trying to get that first dollar made. Shane: Dude, I get it, man. I sat there for months and months waiting for any amount of money to flow into my pocket. And what's crazy is we ask our guests on the show, we look for people in the forums who are taking action, filling out success stories, helping other people, and you have just had this flurry of activity. You've been taking all the courses, talking in the forums, coming to the live event in September, and all of this stuff lately. And that's kind of how we were like, "Whoa, what is this guy doing? He is doing everything. We've got to get him on the show, we've got to help him because we really want to reward action takers in the community." What caused this flurry of activity. You said you've been in the community for a year now. What's happened lately or changed or how'd you [inaudible 00:03:42] to get moving forward in your business? Brian: It was two things. It was, one, probably first and foremost, a new idea for a website. And secondly was I just got really angry that I hadn't finished my last idea, that I hadn't succeeded with it. I got mad and determined because of that. So I just committed and said I was starting again and going to try to do it again. Shane: And are you looking to create a full time income right now or is it more like a side hustle like you love your job? Are you looking to create something on the side that's more like, "Hey, now I can make a lot more money and still do this job that I love, and then maybe someday I can use it to get some time freedom back?" What's the ultimate goal right now? Brian: The ultimate goal is to create a full online business. Shane: Right, right, right. Brian: [inaudible 00:04:39] I want now like I really meant it when I said I think this stuff is really fun, and I'm extremely dedicated to it. I don't have to have ... I'm not beating down the door to escape my job. I love it. I love the people I work with. It's not an urgent need, but there is that need. It has to happen over the next 10 to 20 years for sure. Shane: For sure, yeah. Recently I met this guy named Mark Mason. He has a Podcast called Late Night Internet Marketing, and h

In this Best of Episode, we re-visit the Prologue to: "Our story." We'll be sharing our entire "Our Story" series in the Saturday "Best of Episode" releases over the next few weeks. You don't want to miss these! We'll be giving you all the juicy details of who we are, where we began, and how it all happened! This episode was originally published on October 3, 2017. You can check out the original episode here: https://flippedlifestyle.com/podcast163/ FULL TRANSCRIPT Shane: Welcome to the Flipped Lifestyle podcast where life always comes before work. We're your hosts, Shane and Jocelyn Sams. We're a real family who figured out how to make our entire living online. And now, we help other families do the same. Are you ready to flip your life? Alright. Let's get started. What is going on, everybody? This is Shane and Jocelyn here, flippedlifestyle.com, super excited to be back with you for another podcast today. This one's going to be a little different than our normal podcast where we're helping our people take their online business to the next level, members of our Flip Your Life community. Jocelyn and I actually are having a book written about us. An author is writing a book about our story and a part of that process is we are recording our story on audio for her to listen to, to go through, kind of like in an interview style format. Jocelyn and I were sitting here recording, and we thought, man, what a great opportunity to fill in the gaps and a lot of you listen to our podcast for online business advice and things like that. But what a great opportunity to share our story with you, how, basically, two normal people from really, really small rural communities in Kentucky over a period of time– we went through our careers, we learned about online business, and we ended up creating this amazing life that we didn't even know existed a few years ago, and maybe just let you guys in on that, and let you walk that journey with us, listen to it, and listen to our story, let it inspire you, and let you know that you can do this, too. Jocelyn: Today, we are starting out with our early life. A lot of you guys have listened to us on other podcasts and you've heard a lot of our story from the past five years, but what you really don't know is more about us from the past 35 years or more. Shane: That dated us, Jocelyn, you totally had dated us right there. What we're going to do is we're going to release these every week as we record them and we're going to let them roll out, and this is going to be our story, our journey how we got to where we are, literally, right now today from A to Z. We're going to look back and connect the dots. We were writing an outline for today's podcast and it's mind blowing when we were reading it. We both just stopped, and we're like, "This doesn't even sound real, it doesn't even sound possible," like, it's incredible when you see looking back with 20/20 hindsight how all of the dots aligned and everything, and all the puzzle pieces came together. What we want you to do is listen to these podcasts. You are going to get a ton of information out of them that is going to help you succeed in your journey, too, and it's going to help you see those dots in your own life, and see how you have all the puzzle pieces right in front of you, and you just have to move them around and connect them together. Alright, so we're going to jump right into it. You want to start? Jocelyn: Oh, we were just having a conversation who was going to start, and Shane's like, "You start." And I'm like, "No, you were born first." Shane: So, this is like those board games we play with Anna Jo and she gets really upset if it's the youngest person first to the oldest person first, so I think we have opened the box to a board game where the oldest guy in the room gets to start off the deals. My story basically starts in a really, really small-town in Southeast Kentucky. Very much a coal town, we're a railroad town, we have a depot here and basically all the coal that comes through the mountains of eastern Kentucky comes through my little town. That was kind of the industry: the railroad, the coal miners, we had less than 5,000 people in my town as we were growing up. Really, just a very rural childhood. I lived in the city limits, what we call a city– it's not really a city. But I lived inside the city limits. I didn't live out in the country, but a very rural upbringing, not anything remotely related to technology or big business or anything like that. Basically, the people were schoolteachers, coal miners or they worked at the retail stores, like Walmart or something like that– Jocelyn: Or maybe at the hospital. Shane: Or maybe at the hospital. Yeah, things like that. That's the kind of jobs that we would have around here. I'm actually the 4th of five boys. My parents have five kids, huge age differences between us. My oldest brother is 19 years older than me. I've got another brother that is 18 years older than me, and the

In today's episode, we celebrate with Kevin for crossing the 100 member mark. FULL TRANSCRIPT Jocelyn Sams: Hey y'all. On today's podcast, we celebrate with Kevin for crossing the 100 member mark. Shane Sams: Welcome to the Flipped Lifestyle Podcast, where life always comes before work. We're your hosts Shane and Jocelyn Sams. We're a real family that figured out how to make our entire living online. Now, we help other families do the same. Are you ready to flip your life? All right, let's get started. Shane Sams: What's going on everybody? Welcome back to the Flipped Lifestyle Podcast. It is great to be back with you again today. And we are super excited for a number of reasons in this episode of the Flipped Lifestyle Podcast. Yes, we have a member of our Flip Your Life Community back on the show today. It's a guest that we have had before. He's actually the most prolific guest in Flipped Lifestyle Podcast history. This is his fourth appearance on the Flipped Lifestyle Podcast. And this one is going to be a great one because we are celebrating a major milestone in this member's life. His online business, his membership has just crossed the 100 member mark. Welcome back to the Flipped Lifestyle Podcast, our good friend and member of the year at last year's Flip Your Life Live, Kevin Depew. Kevin, welcome back. Kevin Depew: Hey, what's going on guys? It's great to be here. Jocelyn Sams: We are so excited to talk to you today. We got a message not too long ago from Kevin. And he was really excited saying he had crossed over 100 members. And I think that it's safe to say, Kevin, that this was definitely not an overnight success. Kevin Depew: Yeah, this would be the polar opposite of overnight success. Shane Sams: Hey, success is success, right? And it usually takes a long time to become an overnight success. So, real quick, tell us a little bit. How many members do you have now? And- Kevin Depew: We're at ... Go ahead. Shane Sams: How many members do you have now? And tell us a bit about what your business is. Just remind everybody what's going on. Kevin Depew: Okay. Yeah. We are at 105 members. We run a website, relaxandlearnguitar.com where I teach folks over 40 how to play guitar, so they can relax, have fun, and be part of a great online community. Shane Sams: Man, I see your stuff in my newsfeed all the time because you know you see the stuff from your friends and stuff? And I just always see ... like, you always make me want to play guitar. I need to relax and learn ... I need to relax a little bit. I'm a little high strung. So, maybe I need to learn it. But man, that is so incredible just knowing your journey and knowing how long it's taken you to get to that 100 member mark. And that's a really big number for us because we tell everybody if you can get 100 people to give you $50 a month or 200 people to give you $25 a month, you can make real money. You could make $5,000 a month, $60,000 a year. And just getting 100 real people to give you money and you give them value and you make a difference in their life. Like, imagine if you were in your living room and you had 100 human beings pile into your living room right now, what would that look like? Your house would be spilling out into the streets because you couldn't fit 100 people into your house, right? Kevin Depew: Yes, very crowded. Shane Sams: Yes. And you've got 100 people that are in your thriving guitar-based community, man. And how long ago did you start Relax and Learn Guitar? What year did you start that in? Kevin Depew: So, my ... Let's see, a bunch of pivots and a bunch of changes. And Relax and Learn Guitar, first member was December of 2016. Shane Sams: Wow. Kevin Depew: Yeah, two and a half years. Shane Sams: Wow, that's amazing. And I love how you said many pivots because you had another website. I remember when you joined the Flip Your Life community. And in the show notes for today's episode, we'll put all of Kevin's other podcasts. Just a little reminder, I remember you came in and you said you posted your first idea in the forums. And I remember reading it, distinctly yours for some reason, I remember reading it and thinking, "That's horrible." Kevin Depew: What? Yeah! Shane Sams: "That is terrible. What are you ..." What was that idea? Jocelyn Sams: But of course, we never say that to our members. We say- Kevin Depew: No. Jocelyn Sams: "You might want to try something else." Shane Sams: I'll tell you what, I said it in private this time, Jocelyn. I'm going to be open and honest here, no sugar. I went to Jocelyn and I went, "No, Kevin." What was that original idea? Kevin Depew: Yeah. Well, I had a couple before I even joined the Flip Your Life community. The one that was original was a time management website, and then I was working with caregivers. I did a few other things. I was very much focused on the things I'd done in my work life. And then when I switched to, you would ask, "What do you want to do?" When I switched to somethi

In this Best of Episode we help Kevin gain traction for his guitar tutorial website. This episode was originally published on August 9, 2016. You can check out the original episode here: https://flippedlifestyle.com/podcast103/ FULL TRANSCRIPT Jocelyn: Hey y'all! On today's podcast, we help Kevin make a pivot to a new online business. Shane: Welcome to the Flipped Lifestyle podcast, where life always become work. We're your hosts, Shane and Jocelyn Sams. We're a real family who figured out how to make our entire living online. And now, we help other families do the same. Are you ready to flip your life? Alright. Let's get started. What's going on everybody? Welcome back to the Flipped Lifestyle podcast. It is great to be back with you as always. This week, we've got a beautiful sunny day out the window here in Kentucky at the podcast, and we are excited because we are welcoming back a former guest and friend of ours, Kevin Depew - a Flip Your Life member who has been on the podcast before, but we have something we've never done that's happening here on the podcast today. We are going to help someone pivot from one online business idea to another. So, Kevin, welcome back to the Flipped Lifestyle podcast. Kevin Depew: Thank you. Great to be here. Shane: And, it was very interesting watching the progression of Kevin's online business since he was on the podcast. What episode was that Jocelyn? Jocelyn: I think it was 79. Shane: Episode 79, so if you want to check out his first episode to kind of partner with this, go back to flippedlifestyle.com/podcast79. Kevin had an online business that was totally different than where he is today and where he is making progress. So, Kevin, tell everyone a little bit about, just quickly where you were when we last spoke. And, maybe what your avatar was, what you were trying to do, maybe a couple of, you know, little problems that you had with that and then, tell us about your business and your avatar now. Kevin Depew: Sure. So, that was back in late January – so, January, February when I had my first call with you guys. I was really new. I had turned a blog in November 2015, just kind of getting idea to want to do online business. And, at that point I had come across you guys through I believe it was from Pat Flynn's podcast, really felt like you guys were some real folks I could learn from. So, I jumped right into the community and I think I did my phone call with you guys. I was maybe in there a week and a half… Shane: All right. Kevin Depew: Yeah. Got an email and said, "Yes. I'm going to – I will talk to people in person about online business. What the heck?" Shane: I probably will. Kevin Depew: At that point I was doing the blog with createsometime.com and it was a tag blog. So, let's just say that. The avatar was everyone living in America, basically Shane: Right. And literally you said that. I'm pretty sure you're like, "Yes, I just wanted to help everybody." And I'm like, "No. That's not how this works, man." You know? Kevin Depew: Yes. I learned a lot. So, at that point... I mean I have strengths in being creative and art, and music, that kind of thing. And I'm also really good at time management. I've worked my entire career, 25-plus years administration, children and families, multiple projects, you know, hiring and training and working with multiple people. Shane: Right. Kevin Depew: So, it was very broad. That first phone call – we really narrowed down how to choose a more specific avatar, which I was kind of... what ended at that call was figuring out a more specific avatar and a more specific problem. Shane: And, we really niched down to you were trying to help older people who had parents that were caregivers for their older aging parents and you were going to help them control their time, basically. Kevin Depew: Exactly. So, we narrow it down to that demographic and just kind of myself as the avatar and things I've learned from that. And then, you know, step off from there with the blog post, the lead magnets, time management, -- the stress and issues that caregivers have -- did some Facebook ads, learned a lot of stuff. And, you know, it wasn't really gaining any traction. So… Shane: Sure. Kevin Depew: ...there was a lot of involvement with the help of you guys. Jocelyn was very, very patient and very helpful. So, I will say that for sure. Jocelyn: Yes, Kevin, we definitely did a lot of soul searching on the old action plans forum. Kevin Depew: Yes. Jocelyn: We talked together a lot, I know. And one of the suggestions that – I'm not sure if it was me or another community member had, was for you to actually sit down with a person and to see what they were willing to pay for and if there were people willing to pay for something. So… Shane: Like this avatar, basically. Jocelyn: Yes, so I think you actually did that. And, tell us a little bit about that and how that led to change in direction a little bit. Kevin Depew: Sure. Yes, that was in May pretty much. I

In today's episode, we help a truck driver start an online business. FULL TRANSCRIPT Jocelyn: Hey, y'all. On today's podcast, we help a truck driver start an online business. Shane: Welcome to the Flipped Lifestyle Podcast where life always comes before work. We're your host, Shane and Jocelyn Sams. We're a real family that figured out how to make our entire living online, and now we help other families do the same. Are you ready to flip your life? All right, lets get started. Shane: What's going on everybody? Welcome back to the Flipped Lifestyle podcast. It is great to be back with you again today. We are super excited to have another member of the Flip Your Life community on the show, so that we can help them find their idea, start, build, and grow their own online business, just like we have, and just like hundreds of other people have in the Flip Your Life community. Shane: Super excited to welcome our guest today, Bryan Goodwin. Bryan, welcome to the Flipped Lifestyle Podcast. Bryan: Hey guys. I appreciate y'all having me on here today. Shane: I think this is a first Bryan because ... we're going to get into your story in just a second. Bryan is a truck driver, and we are actually recording this podcast, he is in his truck on the side of the road right now. Right? Jocelyn: Not driving. Shane: Not driving, he's not driving, but this is the first time I think anyone has ever recorded a podcast with us inside of a semi truck, so I'm pretty excited about that. Bryan: Well, actually I've heard just about all y'all's episodes, so its ... I think yeah the first one y'all had someone that was a truck driver or is a truck driver. No, there's a truck driver in the forums. Shane: That's right. There is. There is. I remember that podcast, but they were not actually in their truck. Bryan: Yeah, they weren't actually in the truck. Shane: That's where you took it to the next level, Bryan. You took it to the next level. Bryan: Glad I could do that. Jocelyn: I'm just curious. I know you spend a lot of time on the road. I'm sure that you listen to a lot of different stuff, but how did you discover us, and have you listened to everything? Bryan: How I actually found you, I'm not a hundred percent. I believe what happened is I was just looking for a business podcast. I was looking for some more information on businesses, because I listen to the (inaudible) and things like that. Y'all's came up, and so I decided let's give them a try, started listening and, I don't know, got all the way up to one particular episode, and I was like, "All right. Well, they've got me pretty much sold. I've got this, but I want to see what else I can learn," so I jumped all the way back and started with episode one, which I actually had to manually download the first 30 because y'all had already cleared the 300 mark- Shane: Right. Bryan: -by that time, so I had to manually download the first 30 and then go from 30 all the way up to what I had listened to at that time. Shane: Love it. Bryan: I've listened to a whole lot of Shane and Jocelyn Sams. Jocelyn: Bless your heart. Shane: Right, bless your heart, man. I know we had you hooked here because I've heard you say y'all about five times, and as soon as you heard that hey y'all at the beginning of the show, you're like, "Wait a minute." Bryan: Oh, yeah. Shane: These are my people. These are my peeps. I've found my people. Jocelyn: Yeah, so I was curious about that because I know you spend a lot of time driving, and you probably spend a lot of time listening. Shane: Well, I'm glad that we have kept you company on many miles of road. Bryan: Yep. Shane: Hopefully, we can help you take everything to the next level, what you're doing. Maybe someday we'll get you off the road. Bryan: Well, that's the objective. Jocelyn: All right, so you are a driver right now, and tell us just a little bit more about your life, about your background, and then we'll get into more of the business side. Bryan: Okay. I've been driving truck for about 11 years now. I drive for the oil field. I actually just hauled what's called frack sand from quarries and stuff like that and take them out to where they do the hydraulic fracking at, and they use the sand actually as a means to prop the cracks and the rock up. I won't go into the details on what fracking is because that just goes completely off rails, but- Shane: We've been known to go off the rails a little bit here on the show, man. That's okay. Bryan: So- Jocelyn: This is all Greek to me. I have no idea what all this means. Bryan: Yeah- Shane: Jocelyn, I just heard sand and I was like, "Sweet. Sand. Okay." Jocelyn: Okay, I can call it that. Shane: There's a big truck of sand. Bryan's at the wheel. Here we go. Bryan: Yeah, so the issue that I run into is that I'm subjected to the swings in the market, so if oil fields, natural gas, and oil prices are getting really high, then yeah I get to have steak and go out and have fun, but if they fall through the floor, I'm eati

In today's episode, we help Kevin decide between a course and a membership. FULL TRANSCRIPT Jocelyn Sams: Hey y'all, on today's podcast we help Kevin decide between a course and a membership. Shane Sams: Welcome to the Flipped Lifestyle Podcast, where life always comes before work. We're your hosts, Shane and Jocelyn Sams. We're a real family that figured out how to make our entire living online, and now we help other families do the same. Are you ready to flip your life? All right, let's get started. Shane Sams: What is going on everybody, welcome back to the Flipped Lifestyle podcast. It is great to be back with you again today. Super excited to help another member of our Flip Your Life community take their online dream to the next level. We're really excited because we have met this member in person last year at Flip Your Life Live. Our guest today is Flip Your Life community member, Kevin Crowe. How you doing, Kevin? Kevin Crowe: I'm doing good, how you doing? Jocelyn Sams: We are great. It is great to talk to you today. Love Kevin's story, because he came into the live event last year, and it was so funny because he and another member of our community, Nick, they came up to me, I think it was at the reception, and they're like, "Hey, we're introverts too." Shane Sams: It was all secretive like, "There's a club. We're the introvert club, and we're in it. So, we're all in it together." Jocelyn Sams: Yeah, and I was pumped. I just ... I always will remember that, because it was just awesome. Like coming up, and they're like, "Hey, we're kind of like you." So, it was kind of cool. But you'll be really happy to know, Kevin's coming back to the event this year, and we're thinking about even doing an introvert room. Shane Sams: Yeah, we're going to have it at Flip Your Life Live, dude, we're going to call it The Quiet Room. Kevin Crowe: That's awesome. Shane Sams: Yeah, it's going to be off over to the side, so during the working ... So, how Flip Your Life Live works, for everybody that's not been, Jocelyn and I get up on stage, we answer questions from the audience, and do all of our content, but then we actually have breakout sessions where we work on what we just learned. It's really chaotic when you put 100 people in a big room. Shane Sams: It can get loud, people are talking, there's some music playing, but this year we're going to have the spa room, the quiet room, where we have the lights turned down a little bit, and it's like you go in there's going to be a sign that says, "Shh, online businesses being built." So, there's going to be an introvert room, man. It's going to be awesome. We thought about you, Kevin, when we came up with it. Kevin Crowe: That sounds like paradise. Last time we just kind of tucked ourselves away in the back corner table. Shane Sams: It was ... Everybody's just got their hoodies on just looking down. Shane Sams: It's alright. Jocelyn Sams: Yeah, exactly. I was talking to Shane earlier, and he's like, "Oh, you know, two introverts, it's going to be ... I'm going to have to talk a lot this show.", and I'm like, "Listen, introverts are not necessarily shy, they just need to be alone to process things, and to gain their energy back, that's all." Shane Sams: Yeah, we were having a meeting yesterday, Kevin, you might be able to relate to this, and Jocelyn, I was like ... When I start talking I don't stop, which everyone- Jocelyn Sams: Well, if you listen to our podcasts- Shane Sams: To our podcasts you know, but as I was ... We were writing ideas on Post-it Notes, and I looked over at Jocelyn, and she was carefully writing these ideas on her Post-it Notes in perfect handwriting, and I'm just flying Post-it Notes out, I've got like 25 Post-it Notes, she's on the third one, and then when we started talking about them, I just start laying out Post-it Notes, and she's like, "Dude, calm down, one at a time. Let me process this. Let me see what your first Post-it Note is before we're on Post-it Note 12." Jocelyn Sams: Yeah, Shane, he wants to hit me with this firehose of information at all times, and I'm like, "Bro, I have to process this.", and then he wants to ask me questions, and me to just spit something out, and that's not how I roll. You know this, Kevin, that's- Kevin Crowe: Oh yeah. Jocelyn Sams: ... we have to think about it- Shane Sams: You got to absorb- Jocelyn Sams: ... and process it, and- Shane Sams: ... all the information, basically. Jocelyn Sams: ... Yeah, all right, well, it is always good to have a fellow introvert on the show, and we're excited to talk to you today about moving your business forward. You've had some really interesting things going on, and we will get into that just a little bit later. But first, tell us a little bit about you and your background. How did you get into all this? Kevin Crowe: Yep. So, I live in Calhoun, Georgia, about 50 miles north of Atlanta, just me and my two dogs. No wife, no kids, just a girlfriend. But, I was born in Michigan,

In today's episode, Jocelyn and I reflect on the past, talk about our fears and struggles, and discuss plans for the future! FULL TRANSCRIPT Jocelyn Sams: Hey y'all. You're listening to episode 300 of the Flipped Lifestyle podcast. Shane Sams: Welcome to the Flipped Lifestyle podcast, where life always comes before work. We're your hosts Shane and Jocelyn Sams. We're a real family that figured out how to make our entire living online. And now we help other families do the same. Are you ready to flip your life? All right, let's get started. Shane Sams: What is going on everybody? Welcome back to the Flipped Lifestyle podcast. Super excited to be with you this week for episode 300 of the Flipped Lifestyle podcast. It's just me and Jocelyn today for episode 300. And if you're wondering what we're going to talk about on today's podcast, on this milestone episode of the Flipped Lifestyle podcast, episode 300. If you're wondering that, good, because so are we. We have no plan, we're going into this ... We tried to come up with some stuff and we just couldn't think of anything or figure it out. Jocelyn Sams: Yeah. We had all kinds of ideas of things that we wanted to do. We've been talking about it forever. And a couple days ago our assistant emails us and she's like, "Hey guys, just wondering if you have anything for episode 300?" When in the back of her mind I know she's thinking, this episode is supposed to come out next week, get this done. Shane Sams: We're batched ahead on all of our interviews before and after, but you guys have not recorded episode 300. And we started talking about it a little bit and we're like, why can we not think about this? Why can we not figure it out? Maybe we should have a guest on. Maybe we shouldn't have a guest on. Maybe we should talk about X. Maybe we should talk about Y. Maybe we should talk about Z. And we just could not come up with any topic. So what we decided to do for episode 300 is one, explore a little bit why we couldn't figure out what we wanted to talk about. Two, talk about some of the projects and things that we're doing right now and how that's going to impact what Flipped Lifestyle looks like in the future. And then we're actually going to go through the same questions. We're going to interview each other a little bit and talk about those internal fears that are holding us back. Those external obstacles that are getting in our way. And we're going to talk about our biggest business questions that we have for growing and scaling our business. Because we are not immune to fear, we are and not immune to the obstacles, and we are definitely not immune to all the questions that rise up. And we find ourselves right now in kind of a weird limbo in our business. Shane Sams: We've got this huge live event coming up, Flip Your Life LIVE. It's happening September 19th through the 21st. We've got new projects that we've started. We recently acquired back some ownership in another company that we owned. So we're going to be able to grow that thing and make it more profitable now. And we've just got a lot going on and it's kind of left us in this weird paralyzed place. Have you ever felt that way in your business? Have you ever felt like there were things happening and you felt busy and you felt like things were going on, you had a lot of ideas, but you were just kind of stuck or plateaued? And that's kind of where we feel right now emotionally, mentally, and everything about our business. Jocelyn Sams: Yeah we thought we would just give you a little bit of insight into what we're thinking, what we're working on, because we really haven't done that I guess in a while. And I was just thinking today that in August this is going to be five years of this podcast, which is kind of crazy. Shane Sams: Unbelievable. Jocelyn Sams: So we've come kind of a long way but of course there's a lot of things that we still want to do and a lot of places we still want to go. So we're just going to kind of explore that a little bit and just give you guys a little bit of an insight into what we're thinking. Shane Sams: All right, so the first thing we want to talk about is Flip Your Life LIVE. And yes, we want you to come to Flip Your Life LIVE. It's in the teens, however many tickets are left right now. I'm not exactly sure what the count is. We've not met with our live event coordinator in a couple weeks. But we've only got a few tickets left and we really want you to come to Flip Your Life LIVE. It's September 19th through the 21st, it's in Lexington, Kentucky, and it's going to be an amazing event where 100 entrepreneurs from all over the world are going to come together and work for a couple days to build and grow our businesses. We've mentioned this on the podcast a couple times, but we want to explore it a little bit. We are not doing Flip Your Life LIVE in the big conference style event that we've done for the past couple of years anymore. There will not be a Flip Your Life LIVE in 2020

In today's episode, we help Sarah sell without being too salesy or spammy. FULL TRANSCRIPT Jocelyn Sams: Hey y'all, on today's podcast we help Sarah sell without being too salesy or spammy. Shane Sams: Welcome to the Flipped Lifestyle Podcast, where life always comes before work. We're your hosts, Shane and Jocelyn Sams. We're a real family that figured out how to make our entire living online, and now, we help other families do the same. Are you ready to flip your life? All right, let's get started. Shane Sams: What's going on everybody? Welcome back to the Flipped Lifestyle Podcast. It is so great to be with you today. Wherever you're listening to the show, thank you for listening. We're really excited to welcome another member of the Flip Your Life community onto the show, so that we can help them overcome fears, breakthrough obstacles and take action on the next steps in their online business. Our guest today is Flip Your Life community member, Sarah Cottrell. Sarah, welcome to the show. Sarah Cottrell: Hi, thanks so much for having me. Jocelyn Sams: Welcome Sarah, I'm actually sensing a little theme here in the podcast. If you listened a couple weeks ago, we had another attorney on, and Sarah of course is an attorney. Tell us a little bit about you, your background and your online business. Sarah Cottrell: Well, so I worked as a lawyer for the last decade. I graduated from law school in 2008, and last summer, after the last of our kids was born, I left my legal job to stay home with them. My path through being a lawyer was a pretty common story. This is true for a lot of lawyers, which is that I started practicing, and pretty early on realized it was not for me in the longterm. However, we had a lot of student loan debt, and I say we because my husband is also a lawyer. We actually met in law school and combined between the two of us, we had over $400,000. Jocelyn Sams: Ouch! Shane Sams: Oh my God. That is a lot of scary mountainous debt, especially when you're like, "I'm not going to use this degree anymore," right? Sarah Cottrell: Yeah. It's basically like you have a mortgage, except there's no asset associated with it other than your own blood, sweat and tears. Shane Sams: Wow, that's unbelievable. Are you still in debt? Sarah Cottrell: No, we paid off all of our debt last June, so June of 2018. Shane Sams: Well done, congratulations. Sarah Cottrell: Thank you. Shane Sams: I can't even imagine having that much debt coming out of college. Jocelyn Sams: What a weight lifted, oh my goodness. Sarah Cottrell: Yes. I was about two years in to practicing when I realized, "This is just not for me in the longterm." When you have over $400,000 in debt, you can't just chalk it all and leave. We had to make a plan to get out, and it had to be a longterm plan. You know a lot of personal finance guru types will say, "Do all these things and cut everything down, and then pay off your debt in like 5 months and then you'll be great." Well, when you have a mortgage size level of debt, you have to have a little bit of a longer term plan that is survivable for five or 10 years in my case. That's what we did. Sarah Cottrell: We made a plan and got out of debt, and that enabled us to be in a position where I was able to stay home with our kids. I also have started doing some writing on the side, which is something that I've always been interested in. With a full-time job and young kids, especially a job that was a lot of research and writing, not a lot of time for writing. Shane Sams: Well for one thing, what's crazy when you were telling your story I was like, "How was 2008 over 10 years ago?" I saw this thing on Facebook the other day, and it was like, people of a certain age you always think the 70s are 30 years ago. I do think that. I'm like, when was 1970? What, 30 years ago? When was 1980? What, 20 years ago? Really, 1980 was like almost 40 years ago and it doesn't seem like that in my brain. Sarah Cottrell: Oh yeah. Shane Sams: When you said, 2008, I was like, how was that 10 years ago for one thing. Then getting out of debt in that short amount, that actually is a short amount of time to me to get out of $400,000 in debt. That's crazy that you did that. That's one of the things that hang people up that we always find coming into the community, is like, "Well, you know I got this college degree. Then I was in this career, and I've got so much time invested in this career, that I just don't want to pivot." I'm like kudos for you for having the guts to say, "Yeah, I'm not going any further. Two years is enough, even though I've invested all of this, I'll figure out how to use this later in my life." Sarah Cottrell: Yeah. Well, and I think for lawyers in particular, you are trained to be extremely risk averse. What you're talking about the sunk costs fallacy that I have all this money and time invested into it, so I can't leave, that's a very strong, mental obstacle for many lawyers. Shane Sams: For sure. Sarah Cottr

In today's episode, we help Marty monetize his golf podcast. FULL TRANSCRIPT Jocelyn: Hey y'all. On today's show, we help Marty monetize his golf podcast. Shane: Welcome to the Flipped Lifestyle Podcast where life always comes before work. We're your hosts, Shane and Jocelyn Sams. We're a real family that figured out how to make our entire living online and now, we help other families do the same. Are you ready to flip your life? All right, let's get started. Shane: What's going on everybody, welcome back to the Flipped Lifestyle podcast. Great to be back with you again today. Super excited to welcome another member of the Flip Your Life community on to the show. Really excited about our guest today because he is a golfer and I love me some golf. So, welcome to the program, Marty Griffin. Marty, welcome man. Marty: Hey, thank you so much for having me. I'm always happy to talk to anyone who's interested in golf, especially people who have kids who are interested in golf. Jocelyn: Well, that would be us right now because our 10-year-old son, Issac, he has just started getting interested in golf a little bit. We did a golf camp this summer and he was really, really excited about it. And we should also mention that Marty is a fellow podcaster. So, it's always exciting to talk to someone who podcasts on our show. Marty: Yeah, it's a ton of fun to do both of those things. I saw your picture of Issac at golf camp, and I was just like yes. Shane: I think it's a sign. Issac's getting into golf. We've got a golfer on the show. All signs are pointing to getting him out on the range and out on the lakes this summer. So, we're going to do that and we're going to talk about golf later on today. But, Marty, tell us a little bit about you and your background and your online business. Marty: I'm, like a lot of your community members, I'm a husband. I'm a father of two girls. We call them Moose and Goose. They're six and 10. I've been playing golf really, pretty much forever. I had some health issues early in life, and I actually had a couple open-heart surgeries. When I was 12 years old was when I had my second one. And the doctors told me that I couldn't do any of the sports that I was currently doing, which was wrestling and baseball. Marty: So, I happened to follow my dad to the driving range one day and I had enough of a knack for it, and I enjoyed it enough that he saw that interest and he got me lessons. So, that was every single waking moment for about 15 years of my life was golf. I'm talking 16 hours a day over the summer, taking lessons, playing in national tournaments. I even tried to go pro for a little while. Marty: So, I decided that in terms of my online business, like our good buddy Pat Flynn says, use your unfair advantage. I got 23 years in the bank doing something that I love that a lot of other people love, so I wanted to really flex that unfair advantage and really get into the golf side of things with my online business. Shane: That's amazing. I played a lot of golf too, when I was a kid. I started playing when I was like 13. The first time I ever swung a club, my brother hands me a driver. I'm like, what do I do? And he goes, well, just hit it like a baseball, but point down. That's what he said. I'm like, okay, whatever. so I watched him swing for a minute and they showed me how to grip the club. I just torched this thing. It left the driving range straight ahead and I was just addicted. The first time I ever swung a club, this happened. Shane: I got really into golf. We went every single day after school, me and my buddy. We would get straight in his car and drive to the next town over to the golf club that we played at. And I bet you for four straight years, I played golf every day it wasn't freezing outside. The best job that I ever had, I was a lifeguard at a country club. There were three holes, seven, eight, and nine, wrapped around the pool. Shane: So me and my buddy, I got paid to do this, this is incredible. For two straight summers I worked at this golf club. I would sit in the chair for 45 minutes and he would go golf those three holes. And then he would get in the chair and I would go golf those three holes. And then when we got off work at the end of the day, we would go play nine holes. So we would play like 27 holes of golf every single day. And half the day we were getting paid to do it. It was unbelievable. How can I get that job back? Marty: That's dream job stuff. That's the real flipped lifestyle Jocelyn is playing golf and being a lifeguard. Jocelyn: Now, did you make any money at that job? Shane: No, I made like minimum wage, but man, it was a good, hard-earned minimum wage. I think I lowered my handicap by about 10 that summer, so it was worth it. Marty: You got yourself a tan and a pretty draw. Shane: Exactly. Jocelyn: It will take me about 10 seconds to tell you about my golf experience. We lived in a townhouse on a golf course when we lived in West Virginia, so there's that

In today's episode, we help Chris find the confidence to build his side hustle business. FULL TRANSCRIPT Jocelyn Sams: Hey y'all. On today's podcast we help Chris find the confidence to build his side hustle business. Shane Sams: Welcome to the Flipped Lifestyle podcast where life always comes before work. We're your hosts Shane and Jocelyn Sams. We're a real family that figured out how to make our entire living online. And now, we help other families do the same. Are you ready to flip your life? All right, let's get started. Shane Sams: What's going on everybody, welcome back to the Flipped Lifestyle podcast. It is great to be back with you again this week. Super excited to welcome another member of the Flip Your Life community onto the show so that we can help them take their business to the next level. Shane Sams: But before we do that, want to remind you that the Flipped Lifestyle podcast is brought to you by the Flip Your Life Community. We do not sell ads, sponsorships on our show. We are completely supported by you the listener and our members inside of the Flip Your Life community. We would love to help you take your online dreams to the next level, just like we're about to help our guest today. Shane Sams: If you'd like to learn more about the Flip Your Life Community, go to flippedlifestyle.com/flipyourlife and you can check out all of our amazing membership options we have. We have an entire community of hundreds of entrepreneurs from around the world, courses that can help you at any stage of your online business and if you need a little bit more help from me and Jocelyn, we do live member Q and A's every single month. We'd love to have you in there. Check it out over at flippedlifestyle.com/flipyourlife. Jocelyn Sams: Now it is time to introduce today's guest Chris Holdheide. Welcome to the show. Chris Holdheide: Hi Jocelyn, hi Shane. Thanks for having me on the podcast. I really appreciate it, thanks. Jocelyn Sams: Yeah, we are excited to talk to you today and we cannot wait to meet you in person in Lexington in September. We're very excited that you are coming and that someone in your family too, right? Chris Holdheide: Yes. Actually, it's me and my twin brother. We both signed up at the same time and decided - Shane Sams: That's awesome. Chris Holdheide: Yeah, we kind of debated it at first and then I kinda told him ahead of time that I was gonna buy my ticket and I kinda got him to, push him a little bit to buy his ticket and then, lo and behold here we are, we're going. We're gonna be there. Jocelyn Sams: Well are you guys identical twins, first of all? Chris Holdheide: Yes, we are. Shane Sams: Do you have identical businesses? Chris Holdheide: No. Jocelyn Sams: And, are you not going to switch name tags at the event? I'm just curious. Chris Holdheide: We might, just never know. Shane Sams: See that would just totally mess me up. You look down, you're sitting at different tables. I'm on stage. I'm getting confused. I wouldn't know what was going on, man. You can't do that to us, man. Shane Sams: So before we get started and get deep into your story and help you take your business, what you're working on right now to the next level. Like, what made you decide to come to Flip Your Life LIVE in Lexington, Kentucky this September? What was the big, you know you said you kinda looked at it, you thought about it, and you wrestled with it. What pushed you over the edge and then allowed you to push your brother over the edge too? To drag him down I-75 kicking and screaming to Lexington? Chris Holdheide: I'd been to several conferences over the years, but a lot of them were ... They're very generic and they just had a lot of you know content where it was just like, I felt like it didn't really help me or improve or help me move forward with my business. I wanted something that was a lot more hands on and that's what you guys were talking about, more hands on, and like you're teaching something then we're gonna go do something. I just thought, "that's gonna be what I need. That's what I need." Someone show me something and then I can do it and I can get my hands dirty and kind of learn some things. Shane Sams: Awesome. Our philosophy when we started Flip Your Life LIVE was to create an event where you did more work in two days and made more progress than you had done like in the year before you actually got to the event. So we actually designed it that way on purpose, like it's deep teaching, it's a no pitch event. We're not going to be selling anything at the end of every session, like they do at some events. We're going to go into a topic, dive as deep as we can into it, stop, let everybody work on it for a minute. We'll be sitting around at tables doing masterminds, helping each other to make progress on whatever we're doing. We're going to focus a lot on traffic and sales. Closing the deal and getting more people to your actual deals. Shane Sams: But then we come back out and Jocelyn and I actua

In today's episode, we help Evan overcome her fear of charging for her products. FULL TRANSCRIPT Jocelyn Sams: Hey y'all! On today's podcast we help Evan overcome her fear of charging for her products. Shane Sams: Welcome to the Flipped Lifestyle podcast, where life always comes before work. We're your hosts, Shane and Jocelyn Sams. We're a real family that figured out how to make our entire living online, and now we help other families do the same. Are you ready to flip your life? All right, let's get started. Shane Sams: What's going on everybody, welcome back to the Flipped Lifestyle podcast. It is great to be back with you again today. Super excited, super pumped, cannot wait to talk to another member of the Flip Your Life community today about growing and building their online business so that they can find the freedom they want in their life. Our guest today is Evan Garrapy. Evan, welcome to the show. Evan Garrapy: Thank you, I'm so excited to be here. Shane Sams: We already changed Evan's life before the show even started. Because I asked Evan before we got going, I said, "How do you say your last name?" And she said, "It's really hard, it's Garrapy." And I said, "Oh, it's like therapy, but Garrapy." And she's like, "I've never thought of that!" Evan Garrapy: So helpful. Jocelyn Sams: Yes, we'll send you our bill for that later, right. Shane Sams: Exactly. That was worth the call, worth the call. Jocelyn Sams: All right, well we are very, very happy to have you on the show today, and I'm really, really interested in what you do. So let's talk a little bit about that. Tell us about you, your background, and about the website that you started. Evan Garrapy: Yeah. In 2007, after my grandmother passed away, my dad's mom, I got really interested in researching family history, because I realized there were so many things I wanted to ask her, and I would never get the chance to. And one of them was about her German heritage that she was really proud of. And I just felt like, I didn't write anything down, I didn't ask her questions, so I scraped up enough money to buy an Ancestry.com account, and I taught myself over the next, what is it now, 2007, 12 years I guess, how to trace my family online. And I've learned a lot, so I started a website to teach other people how to do the same thing. Shane Sams: That's amazing that you say that, and I want to dig deeper into your background too, like what you do outside of the online world. But I have tried to do the Ancestry.com thing, because I'm kind of like ... Everyone thinks, because we work online, that we know everything about computers, and every website. Jocelyn Sams: False. Shane Sams: This was false. So my mom one time, we got one of those DNA kits, and my dad got one. I tried to get on there and figure out how to start ... In the commercial it's like, "I clicked the leaf and I knew that Alexander Hamilton was my second cousin." That's so stupid because that is not how it works. Evan Garrapy: Not quite. Shane Sams: Once you get in it, you just get overwhelmed and confused. I couldn't figure it out, I gave up. I tapped out. So that's what you kind of do, right? Evan Garrapy: Exactly. I kind of compare it to that last scene of Raiders of the Lost Ark, where they're in that big ... The warehouse with all the crates. All the answers are in that big warehouse, but you would never know where to look unless you already knew where they are. So I just kind of teach people how to navigate the warehouse. Shane Sams: That's amazing. That just shows ... We were talking off air about how, I'm like, "No one's ever done anything like this. This is an amazing niche." If you just keep figuring out things that you've figured out how to do, you will eventually figure out how to start an online business. It's just going to happen. Shane Sams: Tell us more about your background too, like what's your actual background, what do you do for a living? What led, what's the nutshell version of how you ended up where you are today? Evan Garrapy: I am technically an attorney. I don't always like to admit it but yes, I'm a lawyer. I realized pretty quickly out of law school that it was probably not a good fit for me, and I was really bummed out, because you obviously spend a lot of time, a lot of money, blood, sweat and tears to become an attorney, only to realize, whoops, I made a mistake. But at that point it's not easy to switch because of all the money and time, and all of your experiences in this one area. But my mom heard you guys on a podcast, and I want to say, was that on Dave Ramsey? Were you all on there? Were you on that one? Shane Sams: I don't think so. Maybe somebody talked- Evan Garrapy: You were on something that my mom heard. She even told me about you guys. Shane Sams: Maybe somebody talked about us on Dave Ramsey. We need to look that up and see if it actually happened. Evan Garrapy: It was something my mom heard, and I looked you guys up, and I started listening to yo

In today's episode, we help Crystal launch her product and find customers. FULL TRANSCRIPT Jocelyn Sams: Hey y'all. On today's show, we help Crystal launch her product and find customers. Shane Sams: Welcome to the Flipped Lifestyle Podcast, where life always comes before work. We're your hosts, Shane and Jocelyn Sams. We're a real family that figured out how to make our entire living online. And now, we help other families do the same. Are you ready to flip your life? All right, let's get started. Shane Sams: What's going on, everybody? Welcome back to the Flipped Lifestyle Podcast. Super excited to be back with you today. We've got another member of the Flip Your Life community on the show, and we are going to help them take their online dreams to the next level. Want to welcome Crystal Harper to the program today. Hey, Crystal. How you doing? Crystal Harper: Hey, guys. Thanks for having me. Shane Sams: And I'm super excited to have Crystal on the show, because Crystal is one of our private mastermind people. We've been working with her for a few weeks, now. And she has taken massive action and made massive progress in her online business, and we're ready to get to the next level, and go to the next steps. Jocelyn Sams: All right, it is great to have you here today, and I look forward to everyone else in our audience knowing more about your business and what you are up to. So let's start out by telling everyone a little bit about you, your background, and what you are doing online. Crystal Harper: Okay, well I got my bachelor's degree in psychology back in 2007. And back then, I was planning on getting my PhD in clinical psychology, but I actually had a daughter right after I graduated, so I decided to take time off from school. I became a waitress. I wanted to be on my daughter's schedule during the day, so her dad watched her at night, and I worked at night. But when I turned 30, and my daughter started first grade, I decided to go back to school for my teaching certification, thinking that I would be on my daughter's schedule. But once I was in the program, I realized that wasn't really the case. So I started thinking that working in the classroom wasn't really what I wanted to do, so I decided to go back to school again and get my Master's degree in e-learning, which I will graduate from in December. Crystal Harper: So I've just kind of been on the fence of where I'm going. And then I ran into you guys, beginning of April, and I just felt like that's where I needed to be. I've just always wanted to own my own business, but never knew how I could possibly do that. Yeah, like I said, I just found you guys and the rest is history. Shane Sams: It's funny, because Crystal, when she says, "I found you guys," here's what she actually means. So Crystal finds our podcast, signs up for the membership, buys a ticket to Flip Your Life live, and she went to our private mastermind, all within a week. I'm watching this happen, as the week's going on. Monday, I see ... Like, "Oh, we got a ticket to Flip Your Life live. Whoa, they joined the community. Wow! They signed up for private coaching!" What is going on here? So you dove into the deep end. Jocelyn Sams: You went all in, Crystal. Crystal Harper: I did. Jocelyn Sams: I like that. And you're also our people because I like how you're like, "Okay, so I started out to work in education, and then I decided I didn't want to work in education." Shane Sams: Pivot. Crystal Harper: Yeah. Right? Shane Sams: All right, like, "Fork in the road, go left. I don't even know what's right. Let's just go left." Jocelyn Sams: Oh, that's sort of the way we were. We were kind of like, "We want schedule flexibility. Let's be teachers." And then we're like, "No. Let's not." Shane Sams: That's not as peachy as you think it is. You Know? Crystal Harper: I know. Shane Sams: But it is really important for people to take that lesson, though. Just because you've already invested a certain amount of time into something doesn't mean you have to keep going down that road if you don't want to do it. And when you realize you don't want to do it, you don't just finish something. When we quit our jobs, I sat down and gave my letter of resignation to the principal. Right? And he looked at me and he goes, "How long have you been teaching?" And I said, "Nine years, going on ten. This'll be my 10th year," if I was going to finish. And he goes, "Nine years." He goes, "You've got all that retirement in, and you're just going to give that up?" And I looked at him, and I went, "Yeah, but I've got 18 left. I'm not just going to finish the last 18 years to retirement because I've got 9 in the system." You don't do that. I realized I don't want to do this, so I'm going to pivot. You know? Crystal Harper: Right. I mean, and it's all a learning experience, too. Shane Sams: Exactly. And I know there's a lot of people out there that probably know your story. Like, "have lived your story." Didn't know what they wa

In today's episode, we help Jennifer scale her yoga business online. FULL TRANSCRIPT Jocelyn Sams: Hey y'all on today's podcast we help Jennifer scale her yoga business online. Shane Sams: Welcome to the Flipped Lifestyle podcast, where life always comes before work. We're your host, Shane and Jocelyn Sams. We're a real family that figured out how to make our entire living online. Now we help other families do the same. Are you ready to flip your life? All right, let's get started. What's going on everybody? Welcome back to the Flipped Lifestyle podcast, it is great to be back with you again today. Really excited about today's guest because this is going to be an interesting show. We've been talking a lot on the podcast about different ways to live the flipped lifestyle, different ways to take control of your life, to be able to make your own money to become and stay self employed, offline, online, work from home, work in your office, wherever it may be. Shane Sams: And this episode is going to fall squarely in the middle of every one of those possibilities because we have someone that has flipped their life through their brick and mortar business, but now they want to scale it online. There's all kinds of, we're at a fork in the road and there's 47 prongs on the fork. So we're going to dig into this a little bit today and see if we can make sense out of it. We want to welcome flip your life member Jennifer Dixon to the show. Jennifer Dixon: Hey guys, thank you for having me. Jocelyn Sams: We are very, very happy to talk to you today. Jennifer is one of our more active members. We see her over and over again on member calls- Shane Sams: Asks amazing questions and I was telling her off air before we started the show. Set a new world record for amount typed into the podcast intake form. I mean we're talking to some multiple paragraphs here folks. I mean it was impressive. It was very impressive. Jocelyn Sams: Okay, so let's just end this podcast now and maybe you should write a novel. Shane Sams: It's prolific that's it, that's right. You just to write a book and it'll be so prolific that no one won't be able to help but purchase it. Jocelyn Sams: Like podcast done that is like a record. Shane Sams: That's a record. We'll see y'all next week. Bye. All right, so first of all, before we get started tell us about your background. How you ended up doing what you do now in your brick and mortar business. Right? And then maybe a little bit about how you found us and then we'll jump from there? Jennifer Dixon: Okay. So you all can tell me to speed it up or slow it down because as you can tell, I'm not great at brevity. That might be the Southern roots. I don't know. We just go slow. Shane Sams: We'll edit you out, it's okay. Jennifer Dixon: All right, so I got into yoga about 10 years ago. I was really active and running, I was training for a marathon at the Disney marathon, actually with my sister and doing crossfit at the time. And I herniated a disk in my low back and I went from being able to sling weights around and run for hours on end, which I used to love to do, to basically being bedridden. I went through eight rounds of four epidural shots in my back. I wasn't even 30 at the time. And the next step really was surgery is what the doctor had said. And I was not willing to do that. My Dad's had back surgery and I am not a huge fan of the ramifications of that. So, my boyfriend now husband at the time was like, "Why don't you try yoga?" And I was like, "Yoga is for sissies." Famous last words. Jennifer Dixon: And he took me to my very first heated power class, and when I was getting into the studio, I had to use the handles to get out of my car, my back was hurting so bad. And by the time the class was over, I could touch my toes and my back didn't hurt. And ever since then I basically practice nearly every single day for this'll be, I think my 10th year. And yoga's given me my life back, it's legitimately saved me from living a life full of pain. And that's how I got into it. I got certified right away to teach. I didn't really ever think I was teaching, I had a very, very lucrative career in the energy industry. And I just did yoga and taught yoga on the side because it was fun. And then lo and behold, I got laid off of my very lucrative position. I think you talk about that there's not really jobs security when you're working for somebody. And boy is that not the truth. Two weeks after coming back to work from having my first child, I was laid off. It was divine providence, I know it's totally a God work, because my husband was laid off Wednesday. I was laid off two days later Friday. Shane Sams: Oh my gosh, woah that's crazy. Jennifer Dixon: That's when you know God's got his hands into something. And it was funny, they had this box full of tissues on the table and I think they were prepared for this emotional breakdown. And I was like, all right, God, I have no idea what you're doing, but all right, give

In today's episode, we help Beth find an audience for her online business. FULL TRANSCRIPT Jocelyn Sams: Hey y'all! On today's show we help Beth find an audience for her online business. Shane Sams: Welcome to the Flipped Lifestyle Podcast where life always comes before work. We're your hosts Shane and Jocelyn Sams. We're a real family that figured out how to make our entire living online, and now, we help other families do the same. Are you ready to flip your life? All right, lets get started. Shane Sams: What's going on everybody? Welcome back to the Flipped Lifestyle podcast. It is great to be back with you again today. Super excited to talk to another member of our community so we can help them take their online business and their online goals and their dreams to the next level. Shane Sams: But first we want to let you to know that the Flipped lifestyle Podcast is brought to you by The Flip Your Life Community. That's where we teach real people, just like our guest and just like you, how to start, build, and grow their online business. We are proud to be one of the only business podcasts that does not sell ads or sell interview spots to guests who are selling their latest book or affiliate products. No, we are 100% supported by our members, listeners, and fans. That keeps us independent, free, and focused on doing what's best for you, the Flipped Lifestyle listener. Shane Sams: We'd love to have your support and support you in your online business journey inside of The Flip Your Life Community. Members get early access to the Flipped Lifestyle podcast each week, bonus and extended episodes of the show, complete access to our entire training library of courses to help you start, build, and grow your own online business, and access to hundreds of other family focused entrepreneurs from around the world in one of the most active business communities online. So help us keep the Flipped Lifestyle Podcast ad and affiliate free all while we help you build your dreams and create a better future for your family. We have affordable plans starting for as little as 19 dollars a month and your first month comes with a 30 day money back guarantee. You can learn more at flippedlifestyle.com/flipyourlife. Join today, we appreciate your support and can't wait to help you reach your goals online. That's flippedlifestyle.com/flipyourlife, join today. Shane Sams: And with that we are super excited to bring on a real member of The Flip Your Life Community. Our guest today is Beth Dekker. Beth, welcome to the Flipped Lifestyle Podcast. Beth Dekker: Thanks for having me I'm excited to be here! Jocelyn Sams: It is awesome to have yet another member of the Dekker family in our community. We also have your brother-in-law, Dan, and his lovely wife Rebecca. Shane Sams: Yeah. The Dekker, they're taking over. It's kind of like they're taking over a whole wing. They may need their own forum eventually. Jocelyn Sams: Dekker plan only. Shane Sams: The Dekker forum may be an exclusive membership, you've got to pay extra. You gotta be a true Dekker or related to a Dekker to get into that. Beth Dekker: There you go. That's another level. Jocelyn Sams: That would definitely be a fun group to be a part of, I'm sure. But we are very excited to have you in our community and we look forward to talking to you today about how to grow your online business. So tell us a little bit about you and your background and what you are doing online? Beth Dekker: Well, thank you so much for having me. I have been listening to the podcast for the last few years but I only recently joined the community. I'm kind of at the very beginning of the process. But I am coming to the Flip Your Life LIVE Event this year and I'm really excited about that. I have spent the last 13 years or so as essentially a support person for small business owners. That's been kind of my day job for several different entrepreneurs. I've had many titles, a manager, executive assistant, studio director, but ultimately among all of them I perform the basic same functions Beth Dekker: I was essentially the business owner's right hand person. My skills generally are in like ideation, activation and restoration. I have pretty good abilities to organize and prioritize the lots of ideas that my different entrepreneurs were generating and make them reality. Over the years when I would tell people what I did, I generally got two main responses. Most of the business owners that I would talk to would invariably say, "I need a Beth." And the people who had similar skills would say, "I want to learn how to do that." I had the idea to start a company back in, I think it was 2017 called The Right Hands. Beth Dekker: I developed my course called Superhero Management, to be able to train people to do what I do. So far I've taught several in person courses but I'm really interested in being able to scale up my company to be able to reach people everywhere and step into the membership model. I do have a k

In today's episode, we help Brooke overcome imposter syndrome and implement new marketing strategies for her nursing student membership. FULL TRANSCRIPT Jocelyn: Hey y'all. On today's podcast we help Brooke overcome imposter syndrome and implement new marketing strategies for her nursing student membership. Shane: Welcome to the Flipped Lifestyle Podcast where life always comes before work. We're your hosts Shane and Jocelyn Sams. We're a real family that figured out how to make our entire living online. Now we help other families do the same. Are you ready to flip your life? All right. Let's get started. Shane: What's going on everybody? Welcome back to the Flipped Lifestyle Podcast. It is great to be back with you again today. Super excited to have another real member of the Flip Your Life Community onto the show. Cannot wait to celebrate a big success in their business and help them take their business to the next level. But, first, we wanted to let you know that the Flipped Lifestyle Podcast is brought to you by the Flip Your Life Community. That's where we teach real people, real people just like our guest and just like you how to start, build, and grow an online business of their very own. Shane: We are proud to be one of the only business podcasts that does not sell ads or sell interview spots to guests who are in turn selling their latest book or pushing affiliate products. No, we are 100% supported by our members, listeners, and fans. That keeps us independent, free, and focused on doing what's best for Flipped Lifestyle listeners just like you. We would love to have your support and help support you on your online business journey inside of the Flip Your Life Community. Shane: Flip Your Life members get early access to the Flip Your Life podcasts each week, bonus and extended episodes of the show, complete access to our entire training library. Of course, there's over 50 training videos to help you find your business idea, launch your online business, and sell things online. Plus you will get access to hundreds of other family focused entrepreneurs from around the world in one of the most active business communities online. Shane: So help us keep the Flipped Lifestyle Podcast ad and affiliate free all while we help you build your business and help you create a better future for your family. We have affordable plans starting for as little as $19 a month and your first month comes with a 30 day money back guarantee. There's absolutely no risk when you join. You can cancel anytime. To learn more go to flippedlifestyle.com/flipyourlife. That's F-L-I-P-P-E-D-L-I-F-E-S-T-Y-L-E dot com/flipyourlife all one word. Join today. We appreciate your support and can't wait to support you and help you reach your goals inside the Flip Your Life Community. That's flippedlifestyle.com/flipyourlife. Join today. Shane: But today we are super excited to welcome Flip Your Life Community member Brooke Butcher to the show. Brooke, welcome to the Flipped Lifestyle Podcast. Brooke: Hey, guys, thanks for having me. Jocelyn: We are very, very happy to have you here today. I am especially interested in what you're doing for your day job right now. We'll talk about that just a little bit. But before we jump into all that, tell us a little bit about you and your background. Brooke: You bet. I am from Oklahoma. I am a wife and a mother to two girls, five and three, so we're pretty busy around here. I'm a nurse, but I don't really work at the bedside right now. I went back and got my Master's so I could start teaching several years ago, and I worked as a professor for about five years teaching in the final semester of the nursing program at one of our colleges. I have stepped away from that as well just because it wasn't very flexible. Brooke: Right now for my 9:00 to 5:00, I'm working with nursing students in an online university serving in more of like a mentor role to help them navigate their classes and graduate on time. Sadly, it's not a teaching role or it would be more fun and tolerable frankly, but I basically have to check in with them weekly and do these calls. I'm working from home, so that's kind of a hard battle right now with the girls being the ages that they are and trying to keep them out of the office and that sort of thing while I'm working. Shane: You left out... On your intake form that you filled out you said, "A call that many of them despise." Brooke: That's absolutely right. Shane: So basically you're forcing these poor nursing students to spend time with you on the phone and they hate this. Why do they hate it so bad? Brooke: It's a weekly call and basically just to check in to say, "Are you doing your work?" You did this well last week. Seriously, some of them will answer the phone and be like, "Hello?" I'll say, "Hi, Nicole, it's Brooke." Brooke: "Oh, hi." Shane: Oh, no. Brooke: You can hear this shift in energy in their voices. Shane: Are these like nontraditional... I know not a lot of nurses are nont

In today's episode, we help Chad grow his new membership site. FULL TRANSCRIPT Jocelyn Sams: Hey y'all. On today's podcast we help Chad grow his new membership site. Shane Sams: Welcome to the Flipped Lifestyle Podcast, where life always comes before work. We're your hosts Shane and Jocelyn Sams. We're a real family that figured out how to make our entire living online. Now we help other families do the same. Are you ready to flip your life? All right. Let's get started. Shane Sams: What's going on everybody? Welcome back to the Flipped Lifestyle Podcast. It is great to be back with you again today. Super excited to welcome another member of the Flip Your Life community onto the show so that we can help them grow their online business and change their family's future. Today's guest is Chad Bostick. Chad, welcome to the program. Chad Bostick: Hey guys. So happy to be here. Man, I've been a long time listener of the show for many many years and I was honored and shocked that you guys invited me to the show and just super, super pumped to be here. Shane Sams: Well listen, man. We reward action takers in the community and we watch those forums like a hawk, looking for success stories, looking for great questions, looking for people that are following through with their action plans and you earned your spot on the show today, man. So we're glad to have you. Jocelyn Sams: And I loved your success story. This is the reason that we chose you to be on the show today, because Chad put out that he got his first paid member and that's something that's really exciting and that we always celebrate here on the show. His success story says, "I'm out of town for work so I didn't think I would make much progress on my business this week, but while I was waiting for my flight Sunday evening," He had been to an event, "I followed up with one of the folks that showed interest at my live speaking engagement. We've exchanged emails a few times this week and last night he said he tried to sign up for my membership but the site wasn't working. He asked my permission to PayPal me money. I said yes." Shane Sams: Wow, that's amazing. Someone was literally like, "Can I just throw money at you? Because this is awesome." That's what it's all about. Jocelyn Sams: It reminds me of that meme that says, "Shut up and take my money." Shane Sams: Right, exactly. Chad Bostick: It was so odd because I didn't even know how to respond. Somebody literally was like, "Shut up and take my money." I sat there and there was all of these negative thoughts in my head. I should say no, I'm not ready yet, I'm not a real entrepreneur, I don't know what I'm doing here. But instead, thank God I have Gmail so the Gmail client on my iPhone had responses built in at the bottom and one of the responses was sure. And so I just clicked the button. Shane Sams: Oh my gosh, that is a great story man. What a first sale story. That is awesome. Jocelyn Sams: I love that. That is awesome. And in the back of your mind you're thinking, "My sales process doesn't even work. Why do you want to give me money?" Shane Sams: That's amazing, man. Chad Bostick: Yeah. Shane Sams: Well listen, let's back up. We're going to get deeper into that first sale and we're going to talk about the next hundred sales as well, but before we do that tell us a little bit about your background. Tell us where you come from, what you do and the life outside of this online business pursuit. Chad Bostick: Absolutely. My name is Chad Bostick. I'm married 14 years to my beautiful wife Shauna. We have two kids, two daughters. One is nine and one is two, and so we've kind of got the whole range of kids here in the house and it's awesome. I am a software developer. Grew up as a software developer and have been a very technical person inside the software development space for many, many years. The last 20 plus years. Chad Bostick: What I struggle with my entire life has been anxiety. I have had really, really difficulties in creating relationships and talking to people and speaking up and it really held me back in life and in my career. When I first got my first programming job back in the 90s, I kind of lucked into it and it was awesome and it was great and I had a lot of fun, but then building my career and moving up took a lot of effort that I didn't know I was going to have to put into it. I showed up and I was a good employee, I did a great job, but after five years of the first company I worked at I found out that I was one of the least paid people in the entire organization and it was really soul crushing. Chad Bostick: There was a lot of other obstacles that I overcame but after a while I figured out that what I was really missing were soft skills. I didn't have confidence, I didn't have a good communication style, and I had no leadership skills whatsoever. So I worked on those, I developed those, and then my career started taking off and I started getting job offers, I started moving into management po

In today's episode, we help Priscilla overcome five fears that hold entrepreneurs back. FULL TRANSCRIPT Jocelyn Sams: Hey y'all, today we help Priscilla overcome five fears that hold entrepreneurs back. Shane Sams: Welcome to the Flipped Lifestyle Podcast where life always comes before work. We're your hosts Shane and Jocelyn Sams. We're a real family that figured out how to make our entire living online. Now we help other families do the same. Are you ready to flip your life? All right, let's get started. Shane Sams: What's going on everybody? Welcome back to the Flipped Lifestyle Podcast. It is great to be back with you again today. Super excited to welcome another member of the Flip Your Life Community onto the show so that we can help them take their life and their business to the next level. Really excited to introduce Priscilla Yocum to y'all. Priscilla, welcome to the Flipped Lifestyle Podcast. Priscilla Y.: Thanks you guys. This is so surreal. Jocelyn Sams: Yes, it is great to have you here and we always get kind of tickled when people say things like that because we're just a couple of normal people from the great state of Kentucky. Shane Sams: Sitting around in our pajamas talking to you today, so it's okay. Jocelyn Sams: Yeah, we are. I have not even brushed my hair today, I'll just be honest so. Shane Sams: And that is why we podcast instead of doing videos. Jocelyn Sams: We are very happy to have you though. We're happy to have you as part of our community. And we want you to tell everyone a little bit, about you and your background. Priscilla Y.: Well, thanks so much you guys. I mean, I listen to you. I've been listening to you guys for almost two years now so that's the surreal part for me but in my everyday life, I am a professional organizer, so I started my own service business in 2010 and I absolutely love what I do. I help families organize their spaces for functionality and to better their routines. And I've loved to doing it. But since I started my business, I added two children to my family and- Shane Sams: Which can disorganize things very quickly. Priscilla Y.: Oh, yeah. It's made me a better organizer for sure because they bring a whole new world challenges and that's what I help, are families. So I'm kind of in the thick of it with them. And so I identify with a lot of their problems but one thing that I've found in my business that's made it more difficult in recent years is that I don't want to prioritize my service business over my children. And that's really hard when you're a one woman show not to do. And so when I started listening to you guys, I didn't really connect the dots that I could at all transition my business online, but the more I started thinking about it, the more I started feeling like it was a possibility. And so in about the last year or so I've kind of been thinking about how I can scale my business better by adding this online element to the knowledge that I have and I felt like you guys are the perfect place to help me do that. And so that's kinda how I got here. Shane Sams: That's awesome. So as a personal organizer in your service based business, I would assume that you literally go into people's houses, look around, create a game plan, and then do you help them actually do any of the physical organizing or is it up to them? What does that look like? Because it's definitely a time for dollars business. Correct? Priscilla Y.: Yes, exactly. Time for dollars. I don't work then I don't make money and if I don't work outside of the home, I don't make money. So I physically go into my client's home and I assess the situation and then I come up with a game plan. I've been really lucky that my business is 100% referrals. So usually if I've gotten that far, I'm for sure doing the project. And then what we do is we schedule as many days as needed for the project. There have been some projects where I can get them done in a four hour period and then there are some that take 40 hours. Shane Sams: So do you ever walk into a hoarder, have you ever been in a house and you're like, oh, no and you walk in, it's like, yeah, I'm a little disorganized, but then you walk in and there's 17 boxes of stuff in the living room. There's a room with all laundry, but there's a bed under it somewhere. Have you ever hit that before? Priscilla Y.: Well, luckily my business is referrals, so you get a lot of like business, so, no, the answer to that is no, I don't get a lot of that. I- Shane Sams: Dang, I was hoping for a good story there. Priscilla Y.: I have had one or two situations like that and I don't feel equipped to handle those projects, so I've turned those down. But what I do get a lot of are moms who are so tough on themselves, they call themselves hoarders and I walk into their house and I'm like, "Why am I here? Like, what is the problem in this house?" So when they start opening drawers and cabinets? And I like, oh, right, okay, this is what- Shane Sams: Now I see. Jocelyn

In today's episode, we help Lori start an online business. FULL TRANSCRIPT Jocelyn: Hey y'all! On today's podcast we help Lori start an online business. Shane: Welcome to the Flipped Lifestyle podcast, where life always comes before work. We're your hosts, Shane and Jocelyn Sams. We're a real family that figured out how to make our entire living online. And now we help other families do the same. You ready to flip your life? All right, let's get started. Shane: What's going on everybody? Welcome back to the Flipped Lifestyle podcast. It is great to be back with you again today. Super excited because we've got a guest from the Flip Your Life community, an actual member inside of our community who is starting their online journey. Shane: They are starting an online business, and we wanted to talk to her right as she's getting ready to get out there, right as she's ready to launch this thing into the world, so that you guys out there who are listening who are also starting an online business, kind of listen in and bust through some of those fears, overcome some of those obstacles and take your next steps as well. Shane: Our guest today is Flip Your Life Community member Lori Pyne. How are you doing Lori? Lori: I'm doing great. Good morning. Jocelyn: Good morning. We were really happy to have you here today and to help you get started on this journey. I understand that, you've gone through a lot of different things in your life. And because of that, I think that it's going to make it even more sweeter, I guess you would say. No, that's probably not- Shane: More sweeter? Jocelyn: That's probably not correct English. It would make it sweeter once you reach that finish line, because you've gone through all of these different kinds of things. So go ahead and tell our audience a little bit about you, your background and what you are starting online. Lori: I have been in the legal field for 30 years. I started it when I was two years old, you understand that of course. Shane: Right. Lori: And while I was being an amazing paralegal supporting my attorneys, I ended up having an amazing son who came into the world with, oh my goodness, a handful of challenges. Lori: At that time I was able to find angels. Truthfully angels who helped me help him. My family, my friends. I met therapists and doctors, nurses, all of who helped him become the miracle baby he is. Lori: He's now 18 years old and we're getting ready for the next change, which is being an adult when you're six foot tall and five years old developmentally. Shane: What happened? What happened when he was born? Lori: He was born with ... They detected a problem. Actually when I was 18 weeks gestation. I don't know if you guys know how tiny your heart is at that point. I don't even think it's the size of an almond. But they saw something and they took another peak, and did another test when I was 24 weeks and my son was assigned a pediatric cardiologist at that point. He had a heart defect. Lori: He has a pulmonary valve that wasn't working right. His pulmonary artery was not pumping in ... Was too small, so he wasn't getting enough blood, and they anticipated birth and then surgery. He had to be five pounds, one ounce to be able to have surgery. And he was born exactly at five pounds, one ounce, he fooled them. He's a tough little guy, was able to make it to four months before he had to have his surgery. Lori: He was a bruiser at 10 pounds. And at birth he had oxygen deprivation and at his surgery, nine hours afterwards when it finished, his heart stopped. It had never worked that hard, never had that much blood flowing. And he ... Our doctors are amazing, I have to tell you. His recovery room was a mini operating room. So they operated on him, his second heart surgery in the recovery room he was in at the hospital. Lori: It was very odd. It's a little graphic, so sorry for anybody who's a little queasy. But they left him open in case his heart had more problems and they just covered him with a plastic sheet. And they had him obviously sedated, so he wouldn't move. And I was not allowed to talk around him, because everyone else could talk and he would ignore them. But he'd been hearing my voice his whole little bitty life, and he struggled to try, and get to me out of the sedation. Lori: Anyone who knows me, I'm a little chatty person and I had to sit there with him in that state without saying a word. Shane: Wow. Jocelyn: Wow. Shane: That is an unbelievable story. We were talking off air and I actually have ... We have a heart kid. We call them heart kids because they're like ... The heart community is amazing. It's just a whole other world of people whose children have had heart surgery. Have had heart defects at birth and they just know everything about the human body. It's unbelievable talking to the heart moms. Shane: My brother called me and the same thing happened ... Not the exact same condition, but he turned purple, and then they had to have heart surger

In today's episode, we welcome back Mark to celebrate his success and help him determine his next steps. FULL TRANSCRIPT Jocelyn Sams: Hey y'all, on today's podcast we welcome back Mark to celebrate his success and help him determine his next steps. Shane Sams: Welcome to the Flipped Lifestyle Podcast, where life always comes before work. We're your hosts, Shane and Jocelyn Sams. We're a real family that figured out how to make our entire living online and now we help other families do the same. Are you ready to flip your life? All right, let's get started. Shane Sams: What's going on everybody, welcome back to the Flipped Lifestyle Podcast, it is great to be back with you again today. Really, really excited about today's guest. This is someone who's been on the Flipped Lifestyle Podcast before. It's someone we have met in person at one of our Flip Your Life live events, and it's someone who's doing some amazing things in the online business world. Our guest today is Mark Taylor. Mark, welcome back. Mark Taylor: Thank you so much. I really appreciate you having me back on the show. Shane Sams: Now, remind everybody where you live at? Because it's definitely not Kentucky from the sound of your accent, you know what I'm saying? Mark Taylor: It's not. It is the UK, but it's not the University of Kentucky, which I think we were talking about last time. Yeah, I live in a village called Rode, which is about 60 miles just north of London over here in Great Britain. Shane Sams: I think it's amazing that you live in a village. We don't have villages, we've got towns, I wish we had villages. Jocelyn Sams: Yeah, we've definitely not used that word, village. But I am quite obsessed with the UK actually. I think we might have talked about this before. I've actually traveled there once and I would love to go back again some time. Shane Sams: I think we're going to come soon Mark. Mark Taylor: Great. Shane Sams: They're about to pass all those laws. Jocelyn Sams: About the visas. Shane Sams: Where we've got to have visas now, the United States people to go to the EU, but I know England's going to let us in once they get out of there. They're Brexiting. Mark Taylor: Absolutely, I think everyone will be welcome. Shane Sams: We'll just come to England, we'll just hang out with you. Jocelyn Sams: Yeah, so I love British culture, I'm kind of obsessed with it. I'm a big tea drinker. I drink English Breakfast every morning, so I feel like I have a real kinship with you. Mark Taylor: Yeah, sure. I do the morning breakfast followed by the mid-morning breakfast, followed by lunch, followed by afternoon. Shane Sams: Second breakfast, third breakfast and tea. Mark Taylor: Yeah, sure. Jocelyn Sams: Believe it or not, southerners, we are big tea drinkers. It's more iced tea usually but I do drink a lot of hot tea. Mark Taylor: Yeah, love it. Jocelyn Sams: All right, well let's jump into a little bit of background for the listeners, for people who maybe have not listened to a podcast with you on it before. Tell everybody a little bit about you, about your background and what you've been doing online. Mark Taylor: I obviously live here in the UK. My background's in music. My passion is music, I'm a professional musician. Moved to London and went to music college and studied there and I've had the great honor really to play with many of the UK's leading orchestras and organizations. Through that I've had the opportunity then to become an educator, teaching drums, teaching music and played all over the world and extensively also through the UK. Mark Taylor: What's been really exciting is I've been able to transfer that passion into my online world through Education On Fire. I live here with my wife and we've got three children and we have a really lovely life. We talk a lot on the podcast about the ability to have that sort of balance in life and I've always had that. My wife and I decided always that we wanted to split the childcare and that she spends a lot of time and we've always managed to do that, being freelance and a musician means that we have a little bit of control of our schedule but of course, if you're not actually away touring or you're not away working then you don't quite have the financial freedom that you might have, which is where some of the online ideas came from, in terms of trying to monetize the sorts of things that I was doing. My life really fits into that three pattern really. It's music playing, music education and then the music and the online education, through Education On Fire. Shane Sams: The last time you were here, which was, what was that podcast? Jocelyn Sams: It's 189. Shane Sams: All right, for those of you who want to catch that episode, it's at flippedlifestyle.com/podcast189 but we talked a lot about your podcast, Education On Fire. Now at that time it was more just a passion project, right? It was just something almost like a hobby that you were doing because you had something in your life going