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Shane Legg (DeepMind Founder) — 2028 AGI, superhuman alignment, new architectures

Shane Legg (DeepMind Founder) — 2028 AGI, superhuman alignment, new architectures

Dwarkesh Podcast

October 26, 202344m 19s

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Show Notes

I had a lot of fun chatting with Shane Legg - Founder and Chief AGI Scientist, Google DeepMind!

We discuss:

* Why he expects AGI around 2028

* How to align superhuman models

* What new architectures needed for AGI

* Has Deepmind sped up capabilities or safety more?

* Why multimodality will be next big landmark

* and much more

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Timestamps

(0:00:00) - Measuring AGI

(0:11:41) - Do we need new architectures?

(0:16:26) - Is search needed for creativity?

(0:19:19) - Superhuman alignment

(0:29:58) - Impact of Deepmind on safety vs capabilities

(0:34:03) - Timelines

(0:41:24) - Multimodality



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