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That Man Is in Everybody's Business
Season 6 · Episode 2

That Man Is in Everybody's Business

Cheap Talk · Jeff Kaplow and Marcus Holmes

September 7, 20251h 2m

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Show Notes

Why Trump thought there might be a deal with Russia; the obliteration of Iran’s nuclear program; speaking truth to power; deterrence failure and pushing Iran toward nuclear weapons; Iran’s modest response to the attacks; enforcement within the NPT; implications for regional and global security; and Marcus reflects on why he was so wrong

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Further Reading:
Gram Slattery, Jonathan Landay and Andreas Rinke. 2025. “The 'land swap' that wasn't: Inside Trump's frantic dash for Ukraine peace.” Reuters.

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