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Ep 245The History Of Classical Apologetics – Ep.245 – Faith Has Its Reasons – Classical Apologetics – Apologist Who Emphasize Reason – Part 1

History Of Classical Apologetics Now we really kick off the book by looking at our first of four main apologetic methods – classical apologetics. Our authors define their terms (always a welcome) and provide the history of classical apologetics. We then cover two of the four examples of classical apologists – saving the biggest for next week. Timeline: 00:00 – Introduction 01:11 – Defining Classical Apologetics 05:29 – The Historical Roots Of Classical Apologetics 06:02 – Classical Apologetics During The NT & Early Church 08:26 – Classical Apologetics During The Middle Ages 10:41 – Classical Apologetics During The Reformation 13:00 – Classical Apologetics During The 19th Century 13:28 – 4 Main Proponents Of Classical Apologetics 13:44 – B.B. Warfield The Supernatural Classical Apologist 19:56 – C.S. Lewis The General Classical Apologist 23:49 – To Be Continued Next Week BOOK LINKS: Faith Has Its Reasons By Kenneth Boa & Robert M. Bowman Jr. Kindle Paperback Logos     Mere Christianity by C.S. Lewis Kindle Paperback Audible Try Audible For Free Logos

Oct 9, 202323 min

Ep 2446 Meta Questions Of Apologetics – Ep.244 – Faith Has Its Reasons – Issues And Methods In Apologetics – Part 2

6 Meta Questions Of Apologetics Finishing up the overview of our four apologetic methods that will be covered in the book we address how the book will organize, codify, and systematize each method. That’s just fancy talk for how the book will show the different aspects of the apologetics methods. In this episode, we cover the 6 meta questions of apologetics that any good method would need to cover. There are also 6 common objections that each apologetic method should answer as well. With these two sections in mind, along with providing an overview and giving examples of those who have historically held these methods, this provides a great evaluation tool for each of the four methods. Timeline: 00:00 – Introduction 00:15 – Tools To Evaluate The Different Apologetic Methods 01:26 – 6 Metaapologetic Questions To Evaluate Apologetic Methods 02:31 – What Basis Do We Argue That Christianity Is The Truth 05:50 – What Is The Relationship Between Apologetics And Theology 07:14 – Should Apologetics Engage In A Philosophical Defense Of The Faith 09:55 – Can Science Be Used To Defend The Christian Faith 10:39 – Can History Be Used To Defend The Christian Faith 12:06 – How Is Christian Truth Related To Experience 13:46 – Upcoming Layout Of The Book Using These 6 Questions 14:34 – 6 Objections Each Apologetic Method Must Answer 18:11 – Conclusion BOOK LINKS: Faith Has Its Reasons By Kenneth Boa & Robert M. Bowman Jr. Kindle Paperback Logos

Oct 2, 202319 min

Ep 2434 Types Of Apologetic Methods – Ep.243 – Faith Has Its Reasons – Issues And Methods In Apologetics – Part 1

4 Types Of Apologetic Methods As we move into the second portion of our book we look at the 4 types of apologetic methods that will be evaluated in the rest of the book. Here we introduce briefly the four types and some of the people who held to the views that our authors believe encapsulates the best representations of them. Timeline: 00:00 – Introduction 03:54 – The Upcoming Format 05:35 – The 4 Types Of Apologetics 09:36 – Classical Apologetics – Highlighting Logic 11:48 – Famous Classical Apologists 14:04 – Evidentialism Apologetics – Highlighting Evidence 16:43 – Famous Evidentalism Apologists 17:36 – Reformed Apologetics – Highlighting Grounding In Christianity 23:53 – Famous Reformed Apologists 24:54 – Fideism Apologetics – Highlighting Personal Belief LINKS: 12:51 – Revived Thoughts Thomas Aquinas BOOK LINKS: Faith Has Its Reasons By Kenneth Boa & Robert M. Bowman Jr. Kindle Paperback Logos

Sep 25, 202326 min

Ep 242The Next 1,000 Years Of Christian Apologetics – Ep.242 – Faith Has Its Reasons – A Brief History Of Apologetics – Part 3

The Next 1,000 Years Of Christian Apologetics Well after the first 1,000 years of Christian apologetics, it also makes sense that we cover the next 1,000 years. Here we see more responses taking place and the inclusion of philosophy and codification and systematizing of theology. As a result, more apologetics occurs and more ways to systematize apologetics is done. While this is a brief overview, we would encourage first-hand reading of many of these names and not just the ones listed here and not just during this second millennium of Christian apologetics. Ad fontes then continue! Timeline: 00:00 – Introduction 00:15 – The Reformation Apologetics 03:53 – Martin Luther’s Apologetics 06:57 – John Calvin’s Apologetics 10:53 – Skepticism Apologetics 11:53 – Blaise Pascal’s Apologetics 13:53 – Joseph Butler’s Apologetics 18:10 – The Enlightenment Apologetics 19:22 – Emmanuel Kant’s Apologetics 20:17 – William Paley’s Apologetics 21:21 – Thomas Reed’s Apologetics 22:13 – Thomas Hodge & B.B Warfield’s Apologetics 24:04 – James Orr & Abraham Kuyper’s Apologetics 25:39 – Cornelius Van Til’s Apologetics 30:47 – C.S. Lewis’ Apologetics 33:43 – Responding To Van Til Apologetics 34:08 – Gordon H. Clark, Edward John Carnell, & Stewart Hackett’s Apologetics 36:35 – William Lane Craig’s Apologetics 37:59 – John Montgomery Ward’s Apologetics 38:47 – Norman Giesler’s Apologetics 40:04 – Francis Schaeffer’s Apologetics 42:10 – Alvin Plantiga’s Apologetics 46:25 – What’s Coming Up Next 48:46 – Conclusion LINKS: 40:51 – Nancy Pearcey On Schaeffer BOOK LINKS: Faith Has Its Reasons By Kenneth Boa & Robert M. Bowman Jr. Kindle Paperback Logos

Sep 18, 202350 min

Ep 241The First 1,000 Years Of Christian Apologetics – Ep.241 – Faith Has Its Reasons – A Brief History Of Apologetics – Part 2

The First 1,000 Years Of Christian Apologetics We went through the first 100 years of Christian Apologetics starting in year 0, now we cover the first 1,000 years of Christian apologetics. History and especially Church History is important because to figure out how we are here we have to see the road that led us to standing at our current crossroads. And what we see is not a monolith apologetic take. So join our time travel adventure as we go through the early Church Fathers starting in the 2nd century and pausing after those in the Middle Ages as we tiptoe through Church History and how they did their apologetics. And we see they all did, in fact, do apologetics. Timeline: 00:00 – Introduction 03:00 – Early Church Father’s Apologetic 05:41 – Justin Martyr’s Apologetic 10:05 – Origen’s Apologetic 11:49 – Augustine’s Apologetic 15:56 – The Middle Ages Apologetics 16:40 – Anselm’s Apologetic 21:43 – Thomas Aquinas’ Apologetic 28:13 – Conclusion LINKS: 09:05 – The Church’s Purpose In Relationship To God – Ep.218 23:59 – Patrick On Revived Thoughts Discussing Thomas Aquinas BOOK LINKS: Faith Has Its Reasons By Kenneth Boa & Robert M. Bowman Jr. Kindle Paperback Logos       Christianity At The Crossroads By Michael J. Kruger Kindle Paperback Logos       The City Of God By Augustine Kindle Paperback Logos

Sep 11, 202328 min

Ep 240The Scriptural Mandate For Apologetics – Ep.240 – Faith Has Its Reasons – A Brief History Of Apologetics – Part 1

The Scriptural Mandate For Apologetics As Bible believers, we want to do all the things The Bible says we are to do so as to honor God in the best way we can. So when it comes to apologetics, we’d really like a scriptural mandate for apologetics. Well, not only do we get ones explicitly but we also get examples of multiple people doing apologetics. Timeline: 00:00 – Introduction 02:04 – The Apostles – The 1st Apologists 03:14 – Apologetics In Acts 05:28 – The Apologist At Mars Hill 10:49 – Apologetics In Paul’s Writings 17:18 – The Apologist Who Mirrored Scripture 19:50 – The One Who Mandated Apologetics In Scripture BOOK LINKS: Faith Has Its Reasons By Kenneth Boa & Robert M. Bowman Jr. Kindle Paperback Logos

Sep 4, 202327 min

Ep 239Defining Apologetics – Ep.239 – Faith Has Its Reasons – Defining Apologetics

Defining Apologetics We kick off our discussion of our next book Faith Has Its Reasons by Kenneth Boa & Robert M. Bowman Jr. with one of our favorite topics – definitions. In defining apologetics we focus on the the four main approaches the book covers and how they’ll be covered. By starting first with definitions we are able to best track the scope and depth of the topics covered. To use a sports-ball reference, definitions help us to know whether to put on pads to get hit in or cloves to field a small spherical object. Join us on one our favorite books that we believe cover the history and different approaches to apologetics fairly and in very helpful detail. Timeline: 00:00 – Introduction 01:13 – Introducing Faith Has Its Reasons 04:56 – How The Book Is Laid Out 07:29 – 4 Basic Apologetic Approaches 09:02 – The Big Differences Between The Approaches 11:15 – The Topics The Book Will Cover 14:53 – Defining Apologetics 18:41 – Difference In Terms In Apologetics 22:45 – The Function Of Apologetics 25:43 – 4 Goals Of Apologetics 34:49 – The 4 Reason Camels Of Apologetics LINKS: 22:57 – John Frame’s Apologetics Playlist 23:07 – 3 Keys Of Apologetics 25:34 – Greg Koukl’s Tactics Playlist 27:33 – Scott Christiansen’s What About Evil Playlist 30:47 – Mitch Stoke’s How To Be An Atheist Playlist 31:15 – Jason Lisle’s Keeping Faith In The Age Of Reason Playlist BOOK LINKS: Faith Has Its Reasons By Kenneth Boa & Robert M. Bowman Jr. Kindle Paperback Logos

Aug 28, 202334 min

Ep 238Sanctifying The Church & The Family – Ep.238 – Interview With A Pastor – Pastor Josh – Part 2

Sanctifying The Church & The Family Pastor Josh from The Anarchist Bible Study podcast shines some bright lights in places in the Church where we might be missing – or not wanting to look. How can we be actively sanctifying the Church and the family? As a youth pastor as well, Josh gives his State Of The Church Kids. Are they all declaring gender a social spectrum or is tradition reigning supreme? Then comes the hard part which is challenging those of us as parents on how to help raise up our children. Finally, he provides a nice helping of a white pill for our current place in history. Timeline: 00:00 – Introduction 03:20 – How Christians Can Sanctify The Church 17:24 – How Are Kids In The Church Doing? 27:29 – How Apologists Can Help Those In The Church 34:53 – What Family Devotions Look Like 46:24 – A White Pill For Our Time In Church History Part One – Click Here LINKS: 00:56 – Josh On Previous Episodes – Ep150 & Ep151 33:32 – Tactics Playlist BOOKS TALKED ABOUT IN THE EPISODE: It’s Good to Be a Man: A Handbook for Godly Masculinity by Michael Foster & Dominic Bnonn Tennant Kindle Paperback Audible Try Audible For Free GUEST LINKS: Website – https://www.anarchistbiblestudy.com/ YouTube – https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHik5tg47n8fLXZ9bUu7l4g Spotify – https://open.spotify.com/show/58FzmmsMdno6oJS78GyHXY Support – https://www.buymeacoffee.com/Flyover Josh’s Twitter – https://twitter.com/iowancap

Aug 21, 202355 min

Ep 237The State Of The Church Address 2023 – Ep.237 – Interview With A Pastor – Pastor Josh – Part 1

The State Of The Church Address 2023 Pastor Josh aka Iowancap from The Anarchist Bible Study joins the program to give his State Of The Church Address 2023. In it, we build on the back of Ligonier’s 2022 State of Theology. Josh talks about why definitions in the church matter and what it means when people in the church don’t agree with those definitions. Then we discuss the role America is playing in the Church and if there is a time soon approaching when God will move the focus out of America to another location. Timeline: 00:00:00 – Introduction 00:03:05 – State Of The Church 2023 00:05:37 – Ligonier’s State Of Theology 2022 Overview 00:10:28 – Christian Definitions Matter 00:12:54 – The Biblical Standard Of Having Standards 00:18:43 – The Danger Of Christians Accepting Beliefs That Sound Good But Aren’t 00:26:49 – Are There Christians In Church That Aren’t Christian? 00:40:52 – The Status & Future Of The American Church 01:01:41 – To Be Continued Next Week Part Two – Click Here LINKS: 00:00:56 – Josh On Previous Episodes – Ep150 & Ep151 00:03:21 – Anarchist Bible Study State Of Theology 00:51:33 – FACTS With Stephen Boyce GUEST LINKS: Website – https://www.anarchistbiblestudy.com/ YouTube – https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHik5tg47n8fLXZ9bUu7l4g Spotify – https://open.spotify.com/show/58FzmmsMdno6oJS78GyHXY Support – https://www.buymeacoffee.com/Flyover Josh’s Twitter – https://twitter.com/iowancap

Aug 14, 20231h 1m

Ep 236Book 10 Announcement

Book 10 Announcement Today’s episode is the announcement of our 10th book we’ll be going over. You can pick it up in the links below and join our book club or just drop in and join the discussion each Monday. After the episode on Monday, the episode is broken down into short, topical clips. BOOK LINKS: Kindle Paperback Logos

Aug 7, 20236 min

Ep 236The Apologetics Of The Noetic Effects – Ep.236 – Apologetics By John Frame – Appendix – Part 2

The Apologetics Of The Noetic Effects We close Frame’s book for the last time with the conclusion of one of the appendices – a look at the critique Ligonier has about Van Til and his apologetics. We look at the similarities and differences the apologetics of the noetic effects of sin has for each model. Finally, we look at John Frame’s critiques on Ligonier’s apologetic model. Next week will involve the announcement of the next book we’ll cover. Timeline: 00:00 – Introduction 00:15 – Noetic Effects Of Sin & Reasoning 09:39 – The Ligonier Apologetic Model 13:39 – Ligonier Borrowing From Van Til 15:05 – Critique Of Ligonier’s Theistic Proofs 22:47 – Frame’s Conclusion 25:08 – Summary Of Apologetics – A Justification Of Christian Belief 28:08 – Conclusion LINKS: Why Should I Believe Christianity Playlist BOOK LINKS: Apologetics – A Justification of Christian Belief by John Frame Kindle Paperback Audible Try Audible For Free Logos

Jul 31, 202329 min

Ep 237Ligonier Vs. Van Til – Ep.235 – Apologetics By John Frame – Appendix – Part 1

Ligonier Vs. Van Til It’s the fight of the century! The boys from Florida against the Dutch Bomber himself! It is Ligonier Vs. Van Til with special guest referee John Frame! Frame responds to the need for defining terms at the start of this debate and shows that conflatating “start with” allows one to begin the path towards straw man-ing at worst and coflation at best. Then the subject matter of where does knowledge originate when it comes to knowing something is a point of disagreement that Frame says, the boys from Florida are left all wet. Timeline: 00:00 – Introduction 01:50 – Responding To Ligonier’s Evidentialism 05:45 – Christ Is Lord – But When? 14:13 – Autonomy By Definition 19:24 – Self-Strating Point For Knowledge? 23:28 – Distinctions To Be Made 26:05 – Reason Must Always Choose Its Standards – A Religious One LINKS: 03:19 – Bahnsen/Sproul Debate 17:39 – Anarchist Bible Study Shout Out BOOK LINKS: Apologetics – A Justification of Christian Belief by John Frame Kindle Paperback Audible Try Audible For Free Logos

Jul 24, 202332 min

Ep 234Atheism And Idolatry – Ep.234 – Apologetics By John Frame – Apologetics As Offense – Part 2

Atheism And Idolatry John Frame closes his apologetics as offense chapter by looking at the two avenues of non-Christian belief – atheism and idolatry. Both parts are interconnected and share common traits. However, atheism tends to remove objective values and relies on the need for evolution to be true. Frame provides some strategies in answering both of these types of non-Christian religions. Timeline: 00:00 – Introduction 00:15 – The Irrationalism Of Atheism 03:10 – The Irrationalism Of Idolatry 04:19 – The Loss Of Values Is Too Much 09:13 – The Thousand-Foot Crutch Of Evolution Idol 13:00 – 3 Reasons To Reject Evolution 17:35 – Idolatrous Atheism 19:22 – Christian Apologetic Strategies Of Answering Atheism & Idolatry 27:05 – Conclusion BOOK LINKS: Apologetics – A Justification of Christian Belief by John Frame Kindle Paperback Audible Try Audible For Free Logos

Jul 17, 202327 min

The Irrationalist Rationalist – Ep.233 – Apologetics By John Frame – Apologetics As Offense – Part 1

The Irrationalist Rationalist Blue 42! Blue 42! Plato! Set – Hike! John Frame takes apologetics on the offense in this chapter leading up to the end of the book. Many parts of this chapter refer back to previous chapters and we likewise suggest checking out our previous episodes in the series. Here, Frame wants us to look at how The Bible views skepticism and views it as either atheism or idolatry. Either way, the person who is an unbeliever wants to be a rationalist but he’s an irrationalist rationalist – wanting to hold an objective and judgmental position while not providing a consistent grounding to do so. Timeline: 00:00 – Introduction 01:21 – Apologetics On The Offense 03:50 – Personal Vs. Impersonal Explanations At Ahead 06:04 – What Is The Other Side’s Explanation? 08:03 – The Bible Makes Offensive Apologetics Essential 11:35 – The Unbeliever’s Twin Strategies 13:04 – The Rationalist’s Irrationalism 13:55 – Only A Sith Deals In Aboslutes! LINK: 16:05 – How To Be An Atheist By Mitch Stokes Playlist BOOK LINKS: Apologetics – A Justification of Christian Belief by John Frame Kindle Paperback Audible Try Audible For Free Logos

Jul 10, 202320 min

Ep 232John Frame’s Explanation For Evil – Ep.232 – Apologetics By John Frame – The Problem Of Evil A Biblical Response – Part 2

John Frame’s Explanation For Evil Now we come to John Frame’s explanation for evil. He wants to derive the answer not from a faceless god but from the God of The Bible. He doesn’t want just a philosophical answer for evil but one derived from The Bible. Frame wants to not just look at an explanation of all the evil that has come before but a vindication for all that is occurring now and then concluded in the future. Does he do it? Timeline: 00:00 – Introduction 01:40 – A New Historical Perspective On God’s Goodness & Evil 06:52 – Humanity’s Trouble With Evil & Time 09:48 – God’s Justice In The Face Of Sin, How Can He Redeem And Still Be Good? 17:33 – The Greater Good Defense In Our Current Present Time 20:55 – The Greater Purposes 24:25 – The Still Waiting For Future Vindication Of All Evil 29:55 – Turning Our Skepticism To Faith 32:07 – Conclusion LINK: 20:43 – Scott Christensen On What Message To Give To Those Experiencing Evil BOOK LINKS: Apologetics – A Justification of Christian Belief by John Frame Kindle Paperback Audible Try Audible For Free Logos

Jul 3, 202332 min

Ep 231No Obligation To Answer For Evil – Ep.231 – Apologetics By John Frame – The Problem Of Evil A Biblical Response – Part 1

No Obligation To Answer For Evil We see John Frame call again for us to turn to Scripture to see what he believes is The Bible’s explanation for the problem of evil. Frame surveys many parts of Scripture, both OT & NT, and finds that in the number of places where man asks God why a certain evil thing happens, God has a usual way of answering. However, as we see from God’s character and transcendent position that He is under no obligation to answer. Timeline: 00:00 – Introduction 02:31 – God Is The Standard For His Own Actions 07:41 – The Bible Doesn’t Always Give An Explanation For Every Evil 11:34 – God Is Not Obligated To Give Any Answer 30:12 – Romans Shows A Great Theodicy 38:41 – Conclusion BOOK LINKS: Apologetics – A Justification of Christian Belief by John Frame Kindle Paperback Audible Try Audible For Free Logos

Jun 26, 202340 min

Ep 229Lacking Explanations For Evil – Ep.230 – Apologetics By John Frame – The Problem Of Evil What The Bible Does Not Say – Part 3

Lacking Explanations For Evil Rounding out this chapter, Frame covers six different theodicies he says are lacking explanations for evil. Frame critiques process theologians, open theists, and even some in his Reformed camp. Timeline: 00:00 – Introduction 01:20 – Character Building Theodicy Issues 05:18 – Stable Environment Theodicy Issues 07:28 – Divine Weakness Theodicy Issues 10:39 – Indirect Cause Theodicy Issues 14:17 – The Ex Lex Theodicy Issues 19:47 – Ad Hominem Theodicy Issues 24:11 – Conclusion LINKS: 25:04 – What About Evil Playlist BOOK LINKS: Apologetics – A Justification of Christian Belief by John Frame Kindle Paperback Audible Try Audible For Free Logos

Jun 19, 202326 min

Ep 233Free Will To Do Evil? – Ep.229 – Apologetics By John Frame – The Problem Of Evil What The Bible Does Not Say – Part 2

Free Will To Do Evil? One of the most subscribed to answers to theodicy is that as humans we have free will to do evil. It is all our fault and God has nothing to do with it but can work with us in our fallen state to bring about His will. And that’s all fine – well, except, there are some issues within Scripture that seem to knock it down and the implications of subscribing to the theory seems to push God a little too far out of the picture. The next couple of episodes might be on the shorter side as vacations come up so if you like to run while listening to us, you can get your fartleks in! Timeline: 00:00 – Introduction 02:10 – Free Will Defense For Evil 09:31 – The Scriptural Issue With Free Will 12:09 – It Always Comes Back To Romans 9 16:58 – Internal Issues With Free Will 20:24 – Conclusion BOOK LINKS: Apologetics – A Justification of Christian Belief by John Frame Kindle Paperback Audible Try Audible For Free Logos

Jun 12, 202321 min

Ep 228What The Bible Does Not Say About Evil – Ep.228 – Apologetics By John Frame – The Problem Of Evil 1 – Part 1

What The Bible Does Not Say About Evil While this may seem like familiar territory to friends of the show, it will be interesting to see the similarities and differences presented by John Frame on the problem of evil. Starting out at looking at what The Bible say or more so, does not say about evil is where we start after defining what is evil and where to turn to. Timeline: 00:00 – Introduction 01:39 – Apologetics As Defense 03:56 – Is There A Problem Of Evil? 06:48 – Difference Between Theodicy & Defense 07:38 – Difference Between Natural & Moral Evil 10:54 – God Is Able To Use Evil For His Purpose 15:16 – Turning To The Bible For Why There Is Evil 17:38 – What Happens When You Don’t Use The Bible 20:30 – What The Bible Does Not Say About Evil 22:08 – The Nature Of Evil – It’s All An Illusion 23:47 – Why Evil Isn’t An Illusion 26:14 – The Contribution Of Evil – Best Possible World 27:51 – It’s Not The Best Possible World, Others Are Possible 31:54 – Conclusion BOOK LINKS: Apologetics – A Justification of Christian Belief by John Frame Kindle Paperback Audible Try Audible For Free Logos   The Grand Demonstration By Jay Adams Paperback Logos

Jun 5, 202333 min

Ep 226The Bible’s Rationale For The Gospel – Ep.227 – Apologetics By John Frame – Proving The Gospel – Part 2

The Bible’s Rationale For The Gospel Continuing With John Frame’s proof of the Gospel (and therefore Scripture) we turn now to The Bible’s rationale for the Gospel. Here we see that there is a rational basis for belief in the trust that Christians have and then we look at particular claims such as fulfilled prophecy and miracles. Frame critiques the critiques of David Hume on miracles. Finally, we look at the outcomes of miracles and show that even when one is presented, belief doesn’t always follow from it. Timeline: 00:00 – Introduction 00:58 – Faith In A Rational Basis 03:58 – Argument From Prophecy 08:30 – Jesus Fulfills The OT Messiah Claims 11:13 – Jesus Did Miracles & Resurrected 16:27 – Three Issues To Look At With Miracles 17:36 – Are Miracles Possible Or Probable? 20:56 – Christianity Solves For The Problem Of Induction 22:08 – Is There Sufficient Evidence For Miracles? 24:47 – Critiquing Hume’s Critique 33:42 – Epistemological Critique Of Hume 34:53 – Miracles Persuade – But Sometimes They Don’t 38:38 – The Gospel Is Credible 40:47 – Conclusion BOOK LINKS: Apologetics – A Justification of Christian Belief by John Frame Kindle Paperback Audible Try Audible For Free Logos

May 29, 202341 min

Ep 226The Bible’s Rationale For Itself – Ep.226 – Apologetics By John Frame – Proving The Gospel – Part 1

The Bible’s Rationale For Itself We now move onto an important apologetic concept for John Frame and that is what The Bible’s rationale for itself is. A defense of the Gospel – the Good News of salvation in Jesus Christ resides in the defense of the Scriptures. Frame’s take is presuppositional in nature and also critical of so-called Bible scholars involved in biblical criticism. Patrick also provides some scathing critique of a film from 2010 that kinda falls in line of what the great philosopher is talking about – we hope. Timeline: 00:00 – Introduction 00:38 – Proving The Gospel – A Defense Of The Scriptures 04:08 – Scriptures’ Doctrine On Scripture Itself 05:55 – Prejudice Against Words 09:58 – The Role Of The Holy Spirit – A Presupposition 14:53 – Biblical Criticism – The Good & The Bad 19:30 – The Age Of Enlightenment Left Us In The Dark 22:54 – Scholars Assume The Bible Must Be Studied From Non-Biblical Assumptions 24:03 – A Small Rant By Patrick On The Book Of Eli 25:24 – A Supernatural Book 26:33 – The Academy Can’t Allow God In 28:43 – Is Scripture Teaching About Itself Credible? 31:16 – God Is Self-Attesting & So Is Scripture 34:09 – Jesus Taught The Same Thing 35:42 – Conclusion BOOK LINKS: Apologetics – A Justification of Christian Belief by John Frame Kindle Paperback Audible Try Audible For Free Logos   The Question of Canon: Challenging the Status Quo in the New Testament Debate by Michael J. Kruger Kindle Paperback

May 22, 202336 min

Ep 225Cosmological And Ontological Arguments – Ep.225 – Apologetics By John Frame – Theistic Argument – Part 4

Cosmological And Ontological Arguments Cosmological And Ontological Arguments are classic theistic arguments. They are some of the most well-known and oldest in the philosophy field. Frame’s approach puts a presuppositional spin to both kinds that bolsters each point better by providing a foundation for the argument. Here, we cover the impossibility of uncaused causes in the universe. We also talk about the nature of God and the necessity of existence. We also sneak a little Austrian Economics in with Praxeology. Timeline: 00:00 – Introduction 01:37 – The Universe Is Finite, Therefore God Exists 03:50 – The Praxiology Of The Universe 04:55 – How Do You Rationally Prove An Uncaused Cause? 08:19 – The Irrationality Of Rationally Talking About An Uncaused Cause 10:03 – Everything Happens For A Reason – Even The Start Of The Universe 14:17 – If God Can Be The Endless 1st Cause, Why Can’t The Universe Be? 17:12 – The Cosmological Argument Is Ultimately Epistemological In Nature 17:53 – God Has All Perfect Qualities, Therefore God Exists 19:16 – What About A Perfect Island? 21:23 – Jumping From Concept To Reality? 24:03 – Are We Adding Existence Unnecessarily? 27:04 – Is Existence Actually A Perfect Quality? 30:44 – Conclusion BOOK LINKS: Apologetics – A Justification of Christian Belief by John Frame Kindle Paperback Audible Try Audible For Free Logos

May 15, 202332 min

Ep 224Knowledge And Design – Ep.224 – Apologetics By John Frame – Theistic Argument – Part 3

Knowledge And Design Moving from the moral argument for God to one of knowledge and design takes us further into the traditional theistic arguments. Here, Frame presents the epistemological nature of a source that is personal and allows us to know things. The alternative explanation does not give us any reason to justify knowledge or understand why we should think the world outside of our mind is how the world actually is. From there an actual teleological argument is presented which has taken a backseat in popularity recently because of objections to it. However, Frame says that those objections are actually quite helpful and helps Christians further prove the point that a personal Creator made everything – and we can know it. Timeline: 00:00 – Introduction 01:50 – The Trouble With Figuring Out How We Can Know Things 05:03 – The Mind And The Universe Must Mirror Each Other 08:06 – The Impersonal Vs. Personal Theory Of Knowledge 14:29 – The Ethical Implications Of Epistemology 15:17 – Metaphysical Arguments For God 16:29 – The Teleological Argument For God 20:59 – Objections To Telelogical Are Actually Productive 24:54 – Conclusion BOOK LINKS: Apologetics – A Justification of Christian Belief by John Frame Kindle Paperback Audible Try Audible For Free Logos

May 8, 202325 min

Ep 222Absolute Moral Authority – Ep.223 – Apologetics By John Frame – Theistic Argument – Part 2

Absolute Moral Authority Last week we looked at issues when it comes to thinking moral authority is arbitrary or just happens to be. This week, Frame looks at absolute moral authority and where it comes from. Probably no surprise that God is going to be the source but do we run into circular issues by saying something is good because God decreed it and God is good because He’s God? Frame tackles those claims. Timeline: Timeline: 00:00 – Introduction 01:59 – Moral Authority 08:57 – Where Does Absolute Moral Authority Come From? 14:30 – How Is God’s Authority The Best Standard? 22:31 – Is God’s Goodness Being Good Circular? 26:38 – Not Viciously Circular 29:27 – Conclusion LINKS: 29:11 – Nancy Pearcey Finding Truth Playlist BOOK LINKS: Apologetics – A Justification of Christian Belief by John Frame Kindle Paperback Audible Try Audible For Free Logos

May 1, 202330 min

Ep 222The Moral Argument For Theism – Ep.222 – Apologetics By John Frame – Theistic Argument – Part 1

The Moral Argument For Theism We jump back into John Frame’s Apologetics book by digging into what Frames to be valuable theistic arguments – even for presuppositionalists. After laying the foundation and critiquing agnosticism, Frame provides the start of what he considers one of the best proofs for God – the moral argument for theism. Timeline: Timeline: 00:00 – Introduction 02:51 – Traditional Theistic Arguments As A Presuppositionalist 06:04 – Moral Proof For God With Presuppositional Flavoring 07:31 – Atheists-Agnostics Don’t Exist 13:03 – Moral Values Exist Therefore God Exists 14:35 – Moral Values More Than Just Experiences 14:55 – Just Because Something Is The Case Doesn’t Mean It Ought To Be The Case 18:01 – Moral Values More Than Just Subjective Feelings 22:11 – Moral Values More Than Just Cultural Values 24:24 – Moral Values Have An Objective Standard 33:32 – Conclusion LINKS: 07:07 – Does TAG Only Work With Negative Arguments? – BOOK LINKS: Apologetics – A Justification of Christian Belief by John Frame Kindle Paperback Audible Try Audible For Free Logos

Apr 24, 202335 min

Ep 221Biblical Theology – A Canonical, Thematic, and Ethical Approach – Ep.221 – Andreas Köstenberger & Gregory Goswell Interview

Biblical Theology – A Canonical, Thematic, and Ethical Approach We are privileged to welcome back Dr. Andreas Köstenberger and welcome Dr. Gregory Goswell as we discuss their newest book from Crossway Publishing, Biblical Theology – A Canonical, Thematic, and Ethical Approach. We talk with the good doctors about what went into the book and how the reader can best use the work. We talk about the differences (and helpfulness) between biblical theology and systematic theology. We talk about the missing aspect of ethics in many works of biblical theology (or theology in general) and even how biblical theology can help in our understanding and formation of presuppositions. Timeline: 00:00 – Introduction 02:25 – A Quick Review 02:53 – The Division Of Labor & Working Together 06:13 – Biblical Theology Vs. Systematic Theology Or Partnership? 10:31 – How Biblical Theology Helps Our Presuppositions 15:40 – You Too Can Do Biblical Theology 17:30 – Ethics In Focus In Biblical Theology 27:07 – Theologians Share Surprises In Biblical Theology 31:28 – How To Use The Biblical Theology Book 36:10 – Other Points About The Book 38:57 – Conclusion The episode link is cavetothecross.com/ep221 Andreas Köstenberger Links Biblical Foundations Facebook Twitter Gregory Goswell Faculty Page LINKS: Truth In A Culture Of Doubt Series Andreas Köstenberger Interview Patrick Book Reivew Books mentioned in this episode: Biblical Theology: A Canonical, Thematic, and Ethical Approach Kindle Hardcover Logos Crossway Truth In A Culture Of Doubt – Engaging Skeptical Challenges to the Bibleby Andreas Köstenberger, Darrell Bock, and Josh Chatraw Kindle Paperback     Signs Of The Messiah – An Introduction to John’s Gospel by Andreas Köstenberger Kindle Hardcover         Truth Matters – Confident Faith in a Confusing World by Andreas Köstenberger, Darrell Bock, and Josh Chatraw Kindle Hardcover Paperback The Heresy Of Orthodoxy – How Contemporary Culture’s Fascination with Diversity Has Reshaped Our Understanding of Early Christianity by Michael J. Kruger & Andreas Köstenberger Kindle Paperback           The Cradle, the Cross, and the Crown: An Introduction to the New Testament by Andreas Köstenberger, L. Scott Kellum, Charles L Quarles Kindle Hardcover         Women in the Church – An Interpretation and Application of 1 Timothy 2:9-15 by Andreas Köstenberger & Thomas R. Schreiner Kindle Paperback         God’s Design for Man and Woman – A Biblical-Theological Survey by Andreas Köstenberger & Margaret Elizabeth Köstenberger Kindle Paperback           God, Marriage, And Family – Rebuilding the Biblical Foundation by Andreas Köstenberger & David W. Jones Kindle Paperback Text and Paratext: Book Order, Title, and Division as Keys to Biblical Interpretation by Gregory Goswell  

Apr 17, 202339 min

Ep 220The Historic Reliability Of The Resurrection – Ep.220 – Scripture Teaching

The Historic Reliability Of The Resurrection We have a special episode coming up and yesterday was Easter so it makes sense to get this episode out now. Thanks for checking out these episodes that hopefully you see the next step we encourage after reading and learning from the books we’ve collected – using them to preach the Gospel and building the Church. Here’s the historic reliability of the Resurrection for a high school audience. TIMELINE: 00:00 – Introduction 01:12 – The Centrality Of The Resurrection 02:19 – Why Did Jesus The Messiah Have To Die? 07:35 – How To Have Proof Without A Body 12:15 – 3 Avenues Of Proof 12:34 – Disciples Preaching 16:27 – The Four Gospel Eyewitnesses 20:24 – The Women Witnesses 24:16 – Post-Mortem Apperances 25:21 – The 500 Witnesses 25:54 – James, The Brother Of Jesus 27:30 – Saul Of Tarsus (Paul) 29:17 – The Origin Of The Church LINKS: 08:52 – J. Warner Wallice Interview 20:13 – Andreas Kostenberger Interview 29:10 – James Anderson Interview  

Apr 10, 202333 min

Ep 219The Church’s Purpose In Relationship To Each Other – Ep.219 – Scripture Teaching

The Church’s Purpose In Relationship To Each Other This is part two of the mini-series I was privileged enough to teach to my (Patrick’s) church’s high school group. We go from the Church’s relationship to God and move into the Church’s relationship to each other. Topics covered are communion, sharing meals, and fellowshipping with one another. I even call the students to rebel!  

Apr 3, 202338 min

Ep 218The Church’s Purpose In Relationship To God – Ep.218 – Scripture Teaching

The Church’s Purpose In Relationship To God Taking a pause from our John Frame book, the next two weeks will be parts one and two of a message I (Patrick) gave to my church’s high school group. This week I cover the Church’s relationship to God. Covering what is church then what is The Church and how does the church in community understand who God is and what He wants from us? You’ll notice a good number of topics covered from the show and that’s to show that this show isn’t just about me or about us – it’s about all of us opening books and learning who God is and how we can enjoy Him.  

Mar 27, 202330 min

Ep 217John Frame’s TAG Argument – Ep.217 – Apologetics By John Frame – Transcendental Argument – Part 4

John Frame’s TAG Argument Frame finishes up his critique of VanTil’s TAG argument and one that focuses on a big point of contention of TAG users – the apologetic use of probability and certainty. Then presented is John Frame’s TAG argument in which he offers not to eradicate TAG but offers a 6-point reevaluation of it. Presuppositionalism still holds value and TAG still is important – it just might include a few extra areas of understanding and molding. Timeline: 00:00 – Introduction 00:40 – Absolute Certainty & Probability 02:42 – 3 Levels Of Certainty 13:56 – Frame’s Take On Certainty 19:50 – Frame’s Sketch On TAG 20:59 – John Frame’s 6-Point TAG Argument 23:14 – Presuppositionalists At Heart BOOK LINKS: Apologetics – A Justification of Christian Belief by John Frame Kindle Paperback Audible Try Audible For Free Logos

Mar 20, 202332 min

Ep 215TAG, Trinity, & Negative Arguments – Ep.216 – Apologetics By John Frame – Transcendental Argument – Part 3

TAG, Trinity, & Negative Arguments Within Frame’s critique of VanTil’s version of the transcendental argument, he’s not throwing it all away and Frame’s fair judgment of where TAG emphasizes the rights points are brought out. Here, TAG, Trinity, & negative arguments are discussed to show that TAG is best used, especially from a worldview level, by the Christian. Other theists might attempt to claim to use TAG for their religious outcomes, but the same approach to the Christian worldview must be taken with those claims. Timeline: 00:00 – Introduction 02:05 – TAG & The Trinity 06:21 – How TAG Can Defend Against Rival Theism (Like Islam) 09:47 – Negative & Positive Arguments 13:34 – Are Indirect Arguments Different Than Direct Arguments In TAG? 17:08 – TAG Doesn’t Suppress Pride 19:15 – Conclusion LINKS: 04:32 – The Problem Of The One & The Many Solved By God Existing (Ep.125) 08:09 – Truth In A Culture Of Doubt Playlist 17:03 – Ep. 55 – One Shot – Five Views On Apologetics & Faith Has Its Reasons BOOK LINKS: Apologetics – A Justification of Christian Belief by John Frame Kindle Paperback Audible Try Audible For Free Logos     The Trinity and the Vindication of Christian Paradox: An Interpretation and Refinement of the Theological Apologetic of Cornelius Van Til by Brant Bosserman Kindle Paperback Hardcover       Five Views on Apologetics (CounterPoint Series) Kindle Paperback One Shot Episode

Mar 13, 202320 min

Ep 214Questioning TAG – Ep.215 – Apologetics By John Frame – Transcendental Argument – Part 2

Questioning TAG Now that John Frame has presented TAG in an overview, he is going to be questioning TAG as what he might consider some deficiencies – or at least in a way that VanTil presents TAG as being the one argument to rule them all and in the light, bind them. This is exactly the thing we need in Christian circles of good, godly men who honor and treat fairly those who have come before and build upon their mighty works. As readers, let us also seek to do likewise. Timeline: 00:00 – Introduction 01:55 – Where’s VanTil’s TAG Argument? 05:57 – Greg Bahnsen – Classical Apologist? 08:39 – VanTil Makes God The God Of Non-Intelligibility 11:35 – Traditional God Arguments Can Be Useful Even To Presuppositionalists 13:10 – Traditional God Arguments Can Persuade People Even Over Presuppositional Ones 15:49 – TAG Is More Than A Single Argument 19:30 – God Is More Complex Than A Single Argument 21:33 – Conclusion LINKS: 04:20 – Gary Habermas On Revealed Apologetics Critique Of VanTil 22:39 – Hobbit Review From A 7-Year Old BOOK LINKS: Apologetics – A Justification of Christian Belief by John Frame Kindle Paperback Audible Try Audible For Free Logos

Mar 6, 202323 min

Ep 214The Best Argument For God – Ep.214 – Apologetics By John Frame – Transcendental Argument – Part 1

The Best Argument For God “The Transcendental Argument (TAG) is the best argument for God!” You may have heard this claim along keywords like “preconditions of intelligibility” and “by what standard”. However, what makes TAG so powerful is something that is beneficial for not just the apologist or the philosophically minded to know and understand – this is a way to better understand who God is and be able to communicate that to your family, children, coworkers, and nonbelievers. We’ll help break down John Frame’s breakdown of TAG and see if we don’t get broken down along the way. Timeline: 00:00 – Introduction 02:11 – The Desire To Expand Arguments 04:32 – Introduction To The Transcendental Arguments 06:06 – Kant & Transcendentalism 07:31 – Is Knowledge Even Possible? 09:39 – VanTil’s Christian Transcendentalism 12:12 – The Case Against Human Autonomy 14:41 – We Know Everything Until The Next Revolution 16:24 – One Must Adopt Only A Theistic Belief To Be Able To Know Things 17:43 – What Are The Preconditions Of Intelligibility 23:34 – TAG In An Outline 25:59 – To Argue Against God Is To Presuppose Him 27:18 – TAG In A Nutshell 29:55 – Logic Demands God’s Existence 35:51 – Ethics Demands God’s Existence 41:04 – Science Demands God’s Existence 48:02 – Conclusion & A Gentle Warning LINKS: 03:14 – Ep.138 – Dr. James Anderson Interview 03:38 – Dr. James Anderson On Is Presuppositionalism & TAG A Circular Fallacy 36:29 – Dr. James Anderson On The Metaphysical Proof Of God From Morality   BOOK LINKS: Apologetics – A Justification of Christian Belief by John Frame Kindle Paperback Audible Try Audible For Free Logos

Feb 27, 202350 min

Ep 213Accepting Evidence – Ep.213 – Apologetics By John Frame – Some Methodological Considerations – Part 2

Accepting Evidence Accepting evidence for a position seems like an easy thing to do in theory. See what’s presented before you and if you properly understand everything you move from unbelief to belief. Ya, well, except it’s definitely not that simple and it’s not how people come to belief, especially about something as big a concept as God. Not only is that the case for human nature and psychology but it’s also what The Bible has to say about belief as well. As Christians, maybe we should start listening to that a bit more. Timeline: 00:00 – Introduction 01:07 – Do We Have A Need For Proof? 08:29 – Does Evidence Lead To Christian Belief? 13:30 – Point Of Contact With Evidence 20:49 – How One Surpresses The Evidence 29:15 – Conclusion BOOK LINKS: Apologetics – A Justification of Christian Belief by John Frame Kindle Paperback Audible Try Audible For Free Logos

Feb 20, 202330 min

Ep 211Apologetics As Proof – Ep.212 – Apologetics By John Frame – Some Methodological Considerations – Part 1

Apologetics As Proof It might sound weird to say that we offer up apologetics as proof when it comes to our faith in God. But what Frame is presenting here is that we sometimes overestimate what we are thinking proof is or isn’t. We’ve let others define what faith is for so long that even if modern shows and movies acknowledge faith it’s always some bad take of believing in spite of evidence or what you know not to be the case. Frame lays out the position of what we see in Scripture as exercises of faith have a proof of evidence component to them and we should likewise consider this when we do apologetics. Timeline: 00:00 – Introduction 01:42 – Abraham Shows Us Proof Of Evidence In Faith 09:48 – Scripture As Proof Of Evidence In The Resurrection 17:29 – Jesus Gives Us Proof Outside Of Scripture As Well 21:59 – The Concept Of Proof 32:41 – Conclusion BOOK LINKS: Apologetics – A Justification of Christian Belief by John Frame Kindle Paperback Audible Try Audible For Free Logos

Feb 13, 202333 min

Ep 210Every Thought Captive – Ep.211 – Apologetics By John Frame – The Message Of The Apologist – Part 2

Every Thought Captive We destroy arguments and every lofty opinion raised against the knowledge of God, and take every thought captive to obey Christ (2 Corn. 10:5). Those same thoughts about the nature of all reality. The nature of knowledge. The nature of right and wrong. Not only those things but even how we present that message to others should be done by declaring that God is Creator and Sovereign and we should proclaim His message in the way He prescribes it to us in His Word. Timeline: 00:00 – Introduction 02:57 – God’s Sovereignty In Christian Metaphysics 06:22 – The Trinity In Christian Metaphysics 10:41 – God’s Role In Christian Epistemology 15:49 – God’s Role In Christian Ethics 22:49 – The Role Of The Gospel Good News In Apologetics 28:19 – The Uniqueness Of Christianity Is Unique 30:19 – Conclusion BOOK LINKS: Apologetics – A Justification of Christian Belief by John Frame Kindle Paperback Audible Try Audible For Free Logos

Feb 6, 202332 min

Ep 209The Nature Of All Reality – Ep.210 – Apologetics By John Frame – The Message Of The Apologist – Part 1

The Nature Of All Reality The term “metaphysics” might seem like one of those scary words that only the eggheads use (true); the term just means what is the nature of all reality. What is it that makes the things we are and experience the things they are? The Christian worldview necessitates and calls for a drastically different take than what most scientists claim. But why is that? When the establishment wants to say that all reality can be traced back to non-personal entities, the Christian worldview not only comes in conflict with that but also why the other side would want to and need to say the opposite. Timeline: 00:00 – Introduction 02:12 – Christianity Is Philosophy & Good News 05:30 – No Separation Of Church & State 11:31 – Christianity As Metaphysics In 3 Parts 12:20 – The Nature Of All Reality 14:58 – The Great Question Confronting Us On What Is Fundamental 18:37 – The Consequences Of Both Views 25:23 – The Survey Of Scientists Says…Only One? 31:54 – Christianity Explains Why Man Only Wants To See The Impersonal 36:51 – The Creator-Creature Distinction 40:21 – Conclusion LINKS: Lost In The Math Book Review BOOK LINKS: Apologetics – A Justification of Christian Belief by John Frame Kindle Paperback Audible Try Audible For Free Logos

Jan 30, 202341 min

Ep 208Evidence & Presuppositionalism – Ep.209 – Apologetics By John Frame – The Basics – Part 2

Evidence & Presuppositionalism Evidence & presuppositionalism have absolutely nothing to do with each other! Well except that all evidence is God’s evidence and so the best use of evidence can be had when an apologist has established their foundation on something that makes sense of them and allows them to exist. The scary thing is that this entails everything in human history and beyond. The non-scary thing is that God is the “everything” and “beyond”. John Frame gives us the role of evidence for the presuppositions and warns us what bad apologetics could entail. Timeline: 00:00 – Introduction 01:40 – The Circularity Issue Question Mark? 09:19 – How The Christian & The Non-Christian Talk To Each Other 13:03 – Apologetics Can Take On Many Forms 14:12 – The Role Of Evidence For A Presuppositionalist 20:58 – God’s Responsibility & Ours 22:30 – What About Sola Scriptura? 26:20 – The Balance Of Sola Scriptura & Natural Revelation 32:56 – What’s The Value Of Apologetics? 33:45 – The Dangers Of Apologetics 44:07 – Conclusion BOOK LINKS: Apologetics – A Justification of Christian Belief by John Frame Kindle Paperback Audible Try Audible For Free Logos

Jan 23, 202344 min

Ep 208The Basics Of Apologetics – Ep.208 – Apologetics By John Frame – The Basics – Part 1

The Basics Of Apologetics We crack open John Frame’s Apologetics book by doing what we like doing best here – defining our terms. With that we find out what the basics of apologetics are and the right way and wrong way we can carry out the command from Scripture to always be ready to give an apologetic for the hope that you have. But what about the verses before and after that? Well, those are important too. Oh ya, and all the rest of Scripture. You probably should read that all. Timeline: 00:00 – Introduction 00:50 – Apologetics’ Creed – Begin With Christ 04:53 – 3 Aspects Of Apologetics 06:21 – Apologetics As Proof 09:12 – Apologetics As Defense 10:29 – Apologetics As Offense 14:11 – Relationship To The Aspects 16:38 – The Word Of God As Our Ultimate Commitment 19:27 – Apologetics Is Not An Neutral To God’s Word 24:21 – What Opposing Neutrality Means 26:17 – Neutrality Doesn’t Mean There Are No Areas Of Agreement 30:31 – Conclusion LINKS: 15:38 – What About Evil Playlist BOOK LINKS: Apologetics – A Justification of Christian Belief by John Frame Kindle Paperback Audible Try Audible For Free Logos

Jan 16, 202332 min

Ep 206The Need To Clarify And Encourage – Ep. 207 – Apologetics By John Frame – Preface

The Need To Clarify And Encourage Another apologetics book? But why? 2,000 years of Church History and we haven’t said everything we need to say? Well, believe it or not, another apologetics book is needed as it gives us the ability to clarify and encourage. Also, it’s kind of what the Bible tells us to do and that’s a pretty big deal. Timeline: 00:00 – Introduction 01:27 – Frame On The 1st Edition 04:31 – Frame On The Term Presuppositionalism 08:52 – Why Another Book On Presuppositionalism? 10:52 – Why Another Edition Of Apologetics By Frame? 12:00 – A Biblical Perspective On Apologetics 14:41 – Obedience To Scripture 17:11 – Application To Unbelief 18:51 – A Constant Need For Clarification 23:52 – Ch.1 Finally…Next Week 😀 BOOK LINKS: Apologetics – A Justification of Christian Belief by John Frame Kindle Paperback Audible Try Audible For Free Logos

Jan 9, 202324 min

Ep 206Introducing John Frame & Apologetics – Ep. 206 – Apologetics By John Frame – Preface

Introducing John Frame & Apologetics We begin our next book by introducing John Frame & apologetics. We open to the preface where Frame’s friend and ministry partner Vern Poythress gives us a mini-book in apologetics and what we’ll see in the rest of the book. If we can talk about just the preface for this long, just imagine the bang for your buck you’ll be getting for the rest of the book! Timeline: 00:00 – Introduction 01:36 – Book Introduction 02:29 – John Frame Introduction 05:02 – Forward By Vern Poythress Intro 08:05 – Be A Disciple 09:10 – Discipleship Affects Apologetics 14:31 – The Lure Of Religious Neutrality 17:42 – No One Is Really Neutral 21:31 – We All Bring Prior Commitments To The Table 24:33 – Presuppositionalists And Bad Circularity? 28:31 – The Centrality Of The Bible For Apologists 29:15 – God Gives Us Language To Use To Communicate With Him 30:16 – We Are Not Independent Of God, So Let’s Not Act Like It 31:33 – Universities Try & Act Independent From God 34:32 – Our Christianity Should Direct How We Share Christ 35:52 – The Irony Of Unbelief 41:44 – The Persuasiveness Of General Revelation 44:22 – The Need For Christ Followers To Disciple In Apologetics 45:38 – Conclusion BOOK LINKS: Apologetics – A Justification of Christian Belief by John Frame Kindle Paperback Audible Try Audible For Free Logos

Jan 2, 202347 min

Ep 204Patrick’s 2022 Book Reviews – Ep.205 – Read More Books – Part 2

2022 Book Reviews – Part 2 The final reviews of 2022 include some IndiePub, poetry, sci-fi, and theology. Our hope for our ministry is that you pull off those books from your shelf, blow off the dust, and make use of them for God’s glory. You can start at any time and start at any length of book. Our God is a storyteller and we reflect His image when we read and write our stories. Let us do all for the glory of God. TIMELINE: Timeline: 00:00:00 – Introduction 00:00:20 – What About Evil By Scott Christensen 00:03:56 – Travels In The Land Of Serpents And Pearls By Marco Polo 00:05:36 – How We Weep And Laugh At The Same Thing By Michel De Montaigne 00:09:46 – Anthem For Doomed Youth By Wilfred Owen 00:11:27 – How High We Go In The Dark By Sequoia Nagamatsu 00:20:04 – Fighting For Holiness By J.C. Ryle 00:23:34 – The Lord’s Work In The Lord’s Way & No Little People By Francis Shaeffer 00:26:51 – Created Equal By Michael Pack & Mark Paoletta 00:31:48 – Uriel’s Revenge By David Roome 00:40:20 – Grace At Work By Bryan Chapell 00:44:41 – The Emotional Life Of Our Lord By B.B. Warfield 00:49:01 – Dark Matter By Blake Crouch 00:54:12 – Sheltering Mercy By Ryan Whitaker Smith & Dan Wilt 00:57:21 – Against All Opposition By Greg Bahnsen 01:01:14 – Omelas Revisted By C.S. Johnson 01:03:14 – Conclusion The episode link is cavetothecross.com/ep205/ LINKS 00:52 – What About Evil Playlist 11:16 – AnarchoChristian Episode On Anthem For Doomed Youth 58:30 – Against All Opposition Playlist 01:01:01 – Finding Truth Playlist Tim Challies Reading Challenge Books Links to the books can be found linked in the Timeline.

Dec 26, 20221h 3m

Ep 204Patrick’s 2022 Book Reviews – Ep.204 – Read More Books – Part 1

2022 Book Reviews – Part 1 For the last two weeks of the year, we’ll be populating the show with books Patrick has read during the year. Some are homeschool supplementals, some are fiction, and – yes, some are even theology. Whether you’re set in your ways of only picking books from the New York Times from Trad Pubs or you’re a guilded member of the Iron Age of Indie Pubs, we hope this might help in finding some good books to read before they collect dust on your shelves. Reviews contain No Spoilers…except that God wins in the end. TIMELINE: Timeline: 00:00 – Introduction 02:31 – Ten Boys/Girls Who Use Their Talents By Irene Howat 07:46 – How To Read A Painting By Christopher Jones 10:41 – Ten Boys/Girls Who Didn’t Give In By Irene Howat 14:49 – You Wouldn’t Want To Be A Sumerian Slave By Jacqueline Morley 16:29 – Ten Boys/Girls Who Made History By Irene Howat 19:59 – EMMA – Emergent Movement Of Militant Anarchists By Michael Segedy 22:07 – Ten Boys/Girls Who Made A Difference By Irene Howat 25:50 – Our Darker Angel By Michael Segedy 28:37 – Recovering The Lost Tools Of Learning By Douglas Wilson 32:52 – Ten Boys/Girls Who Changed The World By Irene Howat 36:00 – Taking Hold Of God By Joel Beeke & Brian Najapfour 39:00 – You Wouldn’t Want To Be An Assyrian Soldier By Rupert Matthews 41:23 – Recovering The Lost Art Of Reading By Leland Ryken & Glenda Faye Mathes 45:39 – Praying The Bible By Donald Whitney 47:54 – Prayer (9Marks) By John Onwuchekwa 50:52 – Alfred The Great By Justin Pollard 55:24 – To Be Continued Next Week The episode link is cavetothecross.com/ep204/ Books Links to the books can be found linked in the Timeline.

Dec 19, 202255 min

Cave To The Cross Apologetics – Redux – Bob Murphy Interview

Bob Murphy Interview Redux The final two weeks of the year will be a year-end roundup of the book Patrick has read and starting the first Monday of the year we’ll be starting John Frame’s Book “Apologetics – A Justification Of Christian Belief”. Today we revisit episodes 47 & 48 with Dr. Bob Murphy @BobMurphyAncap . This was an honor for me to have a conversation to the man who inspired me to learn more about economics for the glory of God. Dr. Murphy is a brilliant Austrian economist and Christian whose contributions and insights into economics is one of the best out there today. In this first part of the interview, Dr. Murphy talks about what economics is and why Christians should care. We also discuss the fact that the Christian worldview accounts for economic theories. We also talk about the application of Austrian Economic theory, a theory based on presuppositional claims, when it comes to showing that slavery is not only immoral but a terrible economic decision. In this second part of the interview, Dr. Murphy talks about where economic truth derives from. If the Fall never occurred would economic principles still stand? Then we talk about some of the weird stances people can have when applying economic principles to other parts of their lives. Dr. Murphy and Patrick have a discussion on the similarities Austrian Economics has with Presuppositional Apologetics. Dr. Murphy gives some advice to Christians from an economic standpoint & encourages other Christians to learn economics as part of God’s ordered universe. The episode link is cavetothecross.com/MurphyRedux/ About Dr. Murphy Dr. Murphy is a Research Assistant Professor at the Free Market Institute at Texas Tech University. He is also Senior Economist with the Institute for Energy Research, a Research Fellow with the Independent Institute, an Associated Scholar Senior Fellow with the Mises Institute, and a Senior Fellow with the Fraser Institute in Canada. His current research focuses on the economics of climate change as well as the impact of minimum wages. He earned his B.A. in economics from Hillsdale College and his Ph.D. in economics from New York University. Links To Dr. Murphy Dr. Murphy’s Blog & Website – https://consultingbyrpm.com/blog Facebook Twitter Learn Economics With Dr. Murphy at “Liberty Classroom” – Signing Up Through This Link Supports The Show! Dr. Murphy’s Podcasts:   The Bob Murphy Show     Contra Krugman     The Lara-Murphy Show   Dr. Murphy’s Books Understanding Money Mechanics Kindle Paperback Hardcover   Choice: Cooperation, Enterprise, and Human Action Kindle Paperback     Lessons for the Young Economist Kindle Hardcover     Contra Krugman: Smashing the Errors of America’s Most Famous Keynesian Kindle Paperback Audible Try Audible For Free The Primal Prescription: Surviving The “Sick Care” Sinkhole Kindle Hardcover Audible Try Audible For Free   The Politically Incorrect Guide to the Great Depression and the New Deal Kindle Paperback Audible Try Audible For Free The Politically Incorrect Guide to Capitalism Kindle Paperback Audible Try Audible For Free   Chaos Theory Kindle Paperback       The Three Lads and the Lizard King (Fiction) Paperback         How Privatized Banking Really Works: Integrating Austrian Economics with the Infinite Banking Concept Paperback         The Case for IBC Kindle Paperback       Study Guide to Man, Economy, and State Kindle           Human Action Study Guide Kindle       Study Guide to the Theory of Money and Credit Kindle         Other books mentioned in this episode: Man, Economy, and State with Power and Market by Murray Rothbard Kindle Hardcover Audible Try Audible For Free Human Action by Ludwig von Mises Kindle Paperback Audible Try Audible For Free       The Theory of Money and Credit by Ludwig von Mises Kindle Paperback

Dec 12, 20221h 12m

Cave To The Cross Apologetics – Redux – J. Warner Wallace Interview

J. Warner Wallace Interview Redux We needed to reschedule some things for our next book so we’re almost thinking of starting Frame’s book at the first of the year. Next couple of weeks, I’m thinking of doing a year-end review of all the books I read this year and see if there’s any interest in that. This week we’re pulling an interview that we did with J. Warner Wallace @ColdCaseChristianity all the way back from episodes 51 and 52. We were all so young back then… We discuss Detective Wallace’s background and what led him to start questioning the claims of Christianity. He talks about using his approach for looking at the veracity and claims of the biblical Gospels and how the Gospels differ from the Book Of Mormon. Then we discuss some responses from critics of the Gospel. In the second half, we take a deeper look into Detective Wallace’s process of establishing the Gospels as credible eyewitness testimony. We then ask him how he deals with evaluating the possibility of supernatural causes in everyday life. We, of course, have to talk about how he responds to presuppositionalists and also the great case for morality Christians have. We finish up with a charge and challenge from Detective Wallace on always being ready to give a defense for the hope we have. The episode link is cavetothecross.com/WallaceRedux/ Books mentioned in this episode: Cold-Case Christianity: A Homicide Detective Investigates the Claims of the Gospels by J. Warner Wallace Kindle Paperback Audible Try Audible For Free   Person of Interest: Why Jesus Still Matters in a World that Rejects the Bible by J. Warner Wallace Kindle Paperback Audible Try Audible For Free   God’s Crime Scene: A Cold-Case Detective Examines the Evidence for a Divinely Created Universe by J. Warner Wallace Kindle Paperback Audible Try Audible For Free   Forensic Faith: A Homicide Detective Makes the Case for a More Reasonable, Evidential Christian Faith by J. Warner Wallace Kindle Paperback Audible Try Audible For Free

Dec 5, 20221h 12m

9th Book Announcement

Our 9th Book Announcement A very blurry Patrick (if you’re watching the video) announces the 9th book that’s going to be covered on the show. Links are here in the description and we hope you’ll join us as we focus (with Patrick’s camera in focus) on this next book in our book club. BOOK LINKS: Kindle Paperback Audible Try Audible For Free Logos

Nov 28, 20224 min

Ep 203The Internal Critique Of Other Religions – Ep.203 – Against All Opposition – Biblical Counterfeit Religions

Internal Critique Of Other Religions With the final chapter of Bahnsen’s book, we look at the internal critique of other religions. The same system we’ve been using with looking at worldviews for other philosophies and worldviews works just as well with religion. In fact, the codification and systematic approach other religions have probably make it easier to develop and carry out an internal critique. Timeline: 00:00 – Introduction 02:49 – Application Against Non-Christian Religions 05:31 – The Internal Critique Of Mormonism (LDS) 07:44 – Mormons’ View Of Scriptures 12:48 – Internal Critique Of Mormon Scripture View 24:28 – The Internal Critique Of Islam 25:29 – Muslims’ View Of Scriptures 31:37 – The Internal Critique Of Muslim Scripture View 35:05 – The Internal Critique Of The Moonies 39:10 – Moonies Claim Christianity Is False While Being Christian 41:25 – Conclusion The episode link is cavetothecross.com/ep203/ LINKS: 08:36 – Truth In A Culture Of Doubt Playlist Books mentioned in this episode: Against All Opposition: Defending the Christian Worldview by Greg Bahnsen – Get The Book(s) – Order At American Vision                     Bahnsen Lecture Library Truth In A Culture Of Doubt by Andreas J. Köstenberger, Darrell L. Bock, and Josh Chatraw Kindle Paperback           Is The Mormon My Brother? by James White Paperback           What Every Christian Needs To Know About The Qur’an by James White Kindle Paperback Audible Try Audible For Free         Textual Criticism and Qur’an Manuscripts by Keith Small Kindle Paperback           Kingdom Of The Cults by Walter Martin Kindle Hardcover Audible Try Audible For Free  

Nov 21, 202244 min

Ep 200Dualism & Other Religions Critiqued – Ep.202 – Against All Opposition – A Quick Course In Comparative Religions

Dualism & Other Religions Critiqued Moving on from atheism to see how dualism & other religions critiqued. Applying the two-step method of providing an internal critique and then giving the biblical answer, we see the arbitrary and inconsistent nature of these worldviews. Platonism with its mind and body dualism and Aristotle with his materialism give a movement toward the Christian worldview but without a basis for knowledge. Finally, we look at three types of non-Christian religious worldviews. Representing them are Hinduism, Hare Krishna, and Buddhism. We see the denial of some parts of reality lead to a rejection of their own worldview. Timeline: 00:00 – Introduction 02:13 – Looking At Other Religions 02:42 – Believers In Mind & Body Dualism 03:47 – Plato & Forms 08:32 – How Do We Know About The Form Realm? 10:20 – The Student Becomes The Master 11:21 – Explanation For Motion? 15:36 – Aristotle Fairs No Better 17:08 – 3 Types Of Non-Christian Religious Views 23:10 – Defining Terms 28:12 – Hinduism 31:54 – Buddhism 41:01 – Conclusion The episode link is cavetothecross.com/ep202/ LINKS: 17:04 – Ep.200 & Ep.201 26:34 – Cultish – Leaving The Moonies – Part 1 & Part 2 30:39 – Responding To Hindus & Hare Krishnas Books mentioned in this episode: Against All Opposition: Defending the Christian Worldview by Greg Bahnsen – Get The Book(s) – Order At American Vision                     Bahnsen Lecture Library  

Nov 14, 202242 min

Ep 201All Unbelievers Believe – Ep.201 – Against All Opposition – The Unbeliever Is A Believer

All Unbelievers Believe Continuing with the internal critique of both the Christian and the unbeliever, the Christian comes to see that since God is Sovereign and Creator over all things and all men are made in His Image, it is impossible to rebel so far away from that so as to be outside of God’s rule or image. As in Romans 1 we see that all unbelievers believe in the one true God. And it is evidenced by their beliefs and actions of being unable to live consistently within their own worldview. It is the Christian who is able to point out the inconsistency and to provide not just the proper worldview that accounts for accounting but to account for why the unbeliever doesn’t account for accounting. Timeline: 00:00 – Introduction 01:21 – Without Christianity, You Couldn’t Know Anything 04:59 – Without Christianity, There Couldn’t Be Any More Absolutes 07:08 – No BASIS For Morality 09:16 – “Is Just Works” Is Not An Answer 11:39 – Three Types Of Belief Concerning A Worldview 14:48 – Difference Between Believing & Being Able To Justify It 16:25 – Beliefs About Our Beliefs 19:46 – Justifying Our Beliefs 24:30 – The Unbeliever’s Inconsistent Living Points To God 30:40 – Why Pointing This Out Doesn’t Turn Unbelievers Into Believers 36:38 – When One Gives Up Their Rationality 45:05 – Conclusion The episode link is cavetothecross.com/ep201/ LINKS: 31:08 – Lost In Math Review 31:34 – Premier Unbelievable? With Sabine Hossenfelder & Luke Barnes 36:27 – Nihilists Should Say Yes To Drugs Books mentioned in this episode: Against All Opposition: Defending the Christian Worldview by Greg Bahnsen – Get The Book(s) – Order At American Vision                     Bahnsen Lecture Library  

Nov 7, 202247 min

Ep 199Atheist Issues – Mind & Morality – Ep.200 – Against All Opposition – A Critique Of Atheism – Part 2

Atheist Issues – Mind & Morality The problem of induction to do science and the problem of deduction to do logic are used but are baseless in a materialistic atheistic worldview. But that’s not the only issues. Atheist issues mind & morality also arise with great issue. The mind, as opposed to the brain, just doesn’t exist. You are nothing more than a meat sack and your actions cannot be right or wrong they just are. To hold men accountable for their actions would be like holding lions accountable for killing zebras. Yet, we have a history of people wanting to reject God as evil while providing no basis other than the same basis they would use to pick ice cream flavors. Where are to we look? Timeline: 00:00 – Introduction 02:14 – The Atheist’s Problem Of The Mind 15:18 – The Atheist’s Problem Of Morality 22:35 – Conclusion The episode link is cavetothecross.com/ep200/ LINKS: 09:33 – Katie Roome from Periapsis Press Interview (Ep.169) Books mentioned in this episode: Against All Opposition: Defending the Christian Worldview by Greg Bahnsen – Get The Book(s) – Order At American Vision                     Bahnsen Lecture Library  

Oct 31, 202226 min