Body Bags with Joseph Scott Morgan

Matthew Whisman was always too trusting of his cousins, even when they were mean to him. On the last night of his life, Matthew Whisman was beaten senseless, forced to take a bath to wash off evidence, fed his "last supper", injected with fentanyl and dumped over a bridge. Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack investigate the timeline to find out why Matthew was missing for three months before anyone reported him missing.              Transcript Highlights 00:00.09 Introduction - family 03:09.23 Matthew was very trusting 08:03.38 Text messages show Matthew helping police in shooting into a house 14:02.61 Suspects make Matthew wash himself  19:14.43 Last Supper 23:35.13 Torture/kidnap/poison homicide  28:34.17 Mom reports Matthew missing 32:52.57 Body in water for 5 months 38:24.95 ConclusionSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

A man reported "missing" in Florida was never really "missing". Joseph Eiler was shot and killed by his girlfriend, Ashley Averett. Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack talk about the body of Joseph Eiler being chopped into pieces and fed to pigs!                 Transcribe Highlights 00:00.86 Introduction  01:59.32 Killing and cutting up the body 05:22.30 Asking the right questions 10:18.80 Routine 15:00.15 Disturbed dirt 20:19.10 Smell of bleach, cleaner 25:12.40 Poking for methane gas 30:05.91 JJ and Tylee buried on Daybell property 35:07.23 Police have witness 36:24.48 Conclusion  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

On August 23, 1990, Cheryl Henry and Andy Atkinson were in the early stages of a dating relationship, and loved being together. After a night out, the couple heads to a local "lovers lane" outside of Houston, Texas. What happens to this couple is what makes for shocking horror stories told around campfires for decades. Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack share the background on the Lovers Lane Murders, but celebrate as a suspect has been caught after more than 35 years. Another case solved with the help of Othram! Transcribe Highlights 00:00.00 Introduction - Deception 01:53.24 Othram and the incredible work they do 05:08.75 Young lovers go to a "lovers lane" 10:19.83 Looking at a scene, more bodies? 15:12.15 Where did the fatal act begin? 20:13.21 Showed up prepared  24:57.34 Suspect dressed car to look like police car 30:23.99 Sadism 35:08.41 What would you see? 38:21.80 Conclusion  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Michael Chadwick Fry throws a bucket filled with bones over the secure fence into the parking lot of the FBI headquarters in Dallas/Fort Worth, Texas. We know he did this because he recorded himself doing it and posted the video to his YouTube channel. Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack explore the world of stolen and missing remains, and the story behind Michael Fry breaking into multiple cemeteries in Oklahoma and Arlington, Texas. Fry is accused of stealing bones from a mausoleum, cremains in an urn and the remains of one person who still had dirt and leaves on the skull Fry displays on his YouTube channel. The motive? He wants the FBI to investigate a crime he witnessed in 2012.           Transcribe Highlights00:01.62 Introduction - Trying to get attention 02:06.84 Trying to get the attention of the FBI 04:59.38 Michael Fry through a bucket of bones over the fence of the FBI parking lot in DFW 10:24.19 Bucket contained many bones 15:17.30 Book presented to doctor in Denton, Texas 20:04.18 Fry posted video of bone throw on YouTube 25:18.02 A skull with dirt and leaves 29:59.89 Fry made local news crashing truck into FOX tv building in Dallas  34:39.02 People stealing remains more often these days 38:45.06 ConclusionSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

A headless, handless, nude body with an "X" carved into his chest is found in rural New York state on March 20, 1970. As the body has no head, no hands, no identification or clothing, the case goes cold quickly and the body is laid to rest as Allegany County John Doe 1970. No "Missing Person" report was filed, ever. Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack take a look at an almost impossible to solve case, that got cracked wide open 56 years later changing the name from John Doe, to Clyde Coppage, age 35, when he was murdered in 1970. His killer has never been caught and the case remains "Active".            Transcribe Highlights 00:00.05 Introduction - Treasure Island 01:44.63 X marked the spot 04:13.46 Unidentified body 07:06.71 Headless, handless, Nude body, X carved in chest, found on side of road 10:34.01 Smell of human decay difficult to defeat 14:58.98 Cold area 20:21.90 Allegany County John Doe 25:00.38 Missing person report never filed 30:15.24 Body placed in inexpensive casket 35:13.62 Using tissue builder to restore finger prints 38:50.59 Creating timeline 43:21.90 Don't know the nature of injuries 45:00.38 Conclusion  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Jimmy Gracey, 20, vanished after a night out with friends in Spain. He was last seen outside a Barcelona nightclub at 3 a.m. and never made it back to his Airbnb. Police find his wallet in the water. Days later, Gracey's body is found in the same waters.  Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack discuss the facts as they are currently known and try to make sense out of how Gracey's phone ended up in possession of a man under arrest for a crime not related to Gracey's disappearance.             Transcribe Highlights 00:00.70 Introduction - wallet/phone 05:14.65 20-year-old student missing in Spain 10:00.29 Creating the timeline 14:45.57 What do Spanish officials claim happened 20:06.92 Specific comments about Gracey on video 25:05.87 Going off the rocks and into the water 30:06.24 Drowning assessment 35:19.83 Police claim person with Gracey's phone is not involved in Gracey's death 38:10.84 Conclusion  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

UPDATE: When Pastor William "Bill" Schonemann was found dead in his bed, posed with his hands pinned to the wall as if crucified, there was little information to go on and at the time we covered the story, no arrest had been made. Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack update the story with the arrest of 52-year-old Adam Sheafe. Sheafe has admitted to the murder of Pastor Schonemann and demands the state put him to death, but only to prove that he cannot be killed.              Transcribe Highlights 00:00.00 Introduction  01:40.76 Body staged like crucifixion 04:30.52 2 members of church find pastor murdered 10:00.62 Posing of bodies often hidden from press 15:16.25 Adam Sheafe, 51, charged with murder 20:01.94 Evil walking into service 25:05.08 Sheafe had list of 14 pastors to kill 30:16.31 Sheafe charged with multiple crimes 35:03.42 Documenting crucifixion 40:05.94 Conclusion  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

In October 1980 Charles Barnes is found stabbed to death in his Tampa, Florida home. Police discover the 39-year-old naked on the floor with a knife lodged in his chest and the scene shows signs of struggle. Detectives find blood soaked bedding and beer cans with fingerprints of an unknown persons. When no suspect is connected to the fingerprints the case goes cold. Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack go back through the evidence available at the time, and discuss how the old evidence contained everything needed to arrest a suspect more than 45 years after the murder.            Transcript Highlights 00:03.51 Introduction 01:08.12 A towel with DNA 05:10.78 Forensic technology available 1980 10:07.53 Latent prints 15:15.38 Simpson Crime Scene 1994 Dennis Fong 20:30.66 Using X-Ray instead of photo in court 25:06.30 Finger prints didn't hit 30:20.12 2009 Prints came back to Robert Bear 35:23.00 Fingernail clippings from victim 40:00.04 DNA match to suspect 45:12.79 Evidence places Robert Bear at crime scene 47:01.86 Conclusion  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

In 1974, 5-year-old Eric Waldman came home from kindergarten and found his mother bound, gagged and shot in the head. The murder of Barbara Waldman, 31, mother of three, shocked the Oceanside, New York, community. What was more shocking is that the case was not solved for over 50 years and went cold. Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack discuss the murder of Barbara Waldman, the timeline of her murder, and how the murderer went undetected for 52 years.               Transcribe Highlights 00:00.02 Introduction 04:19.51 Half-Day Kindergarten 10:18.29 5-year-old discovers mom 15:22.10 Execution style murder and rape 19:46.10 Torture  25:01.66 Timeline 30:50.90 50 plus years later, solved 35:06.95 Othram got a hit 41:30.90 ConclusionSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

The recent Jeffrey Epstein document dump contains an email sent to an Albuquerque, New Mexico, radio talk show from an anonymous individual claiming to be a former employee at Jeffrey Epstein's Zorro Ranch. The author claims two young foreign girls died by strangulation during "Rough, Fetish Sex" and their bodies were buried in an area of the Zorro Ranch that is made up of 1244 acres of cattle grazing land leased from the state of New Mexico. Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack discuss the ranch and what it is going to take to find bodies that may have been buried ten or more years ago.    Transcribe Highlights00:00.09 Introduction  01:45.78 Zorro Ranch  05:47.46 Epstein-Zorro Ranch, 2 Foreign girls died 10:06.37 Annie Farmer was taken to Zorro Ranch 15:36.26 Finding information about the land 20:27.00 Caliche, ground that feels like cement 25:15.06 Zorro Ranch had Fire-House 30:00.50 Putting a team together to search 35:04.18 How young are the girls? 40:35.79 No soft tissue, maybe hair 42:20.62 Conclusion  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Three men over the age of 60 found beaten to death in the basement of a house in a quite neighborhood in south Detroit. Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack talk about the type of crime scene police described, the suspect caught with a hammer and a bat, the possible forensic evidence, and try to find an explanation for three men who died in the most brutal way possible                Transcribe Highlights00:00.00 Introduction - Detroit 01:54.55 Death by Hammer 06:16.89 Man tells police he was beat with hammer, dead bodies in the house 10:39.91 CID or Homicide Division 15:11.64 History of Hammers in war 20:09.82 Old family neighborhood 25:08.44 Suspect not charged with murders, yet 30:06.23 Types of DNA found on hammer 34:55.48 Generate more energy with a bat 39:39.34 3 people dead for a day  41:20.61 Conclusion  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

On December 6, 2007, the fire department in Troup County Georgia was called to a rural county road after two bags were found on fire. Extinguishing the blaze, firefighters find dismembered human remains inside the bags. The body had been cut into 13 pieces, and the head, hands and feet, were all missing. Investigators failed to identify the body at the time, but did not give up. Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack go over the evidence found in the bags and how it was used, 18-years later, to identify the woman....and open a case that leads to murder, stolen identity, and fraud.           Transcribe Highlights00:00.12 Introduction - Tedious 01:30.39 80 charges, woman accused of killing girlfriend 02:43.51 The things in life that require tedious checking of facts 03:40.38 Nicole Alston, 24, missing, replaced by Angel Thompson 06:04.36 Fire Dept called, two bags on fire, bags contain body parts 10:41.24 Head, hands, and feet are missing 13:41.24 Prevent identification of body, steal identity 19:07.67 Legs will not be mistaken for a dog 24:44.58 Determine if female has had a child 29:45.21 We don't know about murder, we know dismembered and burned 35:01.34 Investigators preserved what they found in 2007 36:18.07 Alston identified after sister entered DNA into public site 40:21.61 Conclusion  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

It was a hot summer day on July 24, 1996, when 7-year-old Morgan Violi went outside to play with a friend at the Shive Lane apartment complex where she lived with her mom and two sisters in Bowling Green, Kentucky. A man driving an older-model, maroon Chevrolet van pulled up alongside the girls, jumped out and tried to grab the girl Morgan was playing with but was unsuccessful, so, he snatched Morgan, threw her into the van and sped away. The van was stolen out of Dayton, Ohio, and was recovered two days later in Franklin, Tennessee, 30 miles south of Nashville. The van was scrubbed clean.  The search for Morgan lasted until October 26, 1996, when her skeletal remains were found in the woods off I-65 in White House, Tennessee, 30 miles north of Nashville.  A suspect was never located, and the case went cold for nearly 30 years. Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack discuss the cold case kidnapping and murder of 7-year-old Morgan Violi and the forensic evidence that solved her case and led to a confession by the killer.       Transcribe Highlights 00:01.31 Introduction 01:18.66 Prison escapee kills 7-year-old 05:04.06 Watching children  10:19.84 Fiber solves cold case 14:56.99 Robert Froberg, the killer, 61 now 25:01.86 Unlocking door to scientific truth 29:56.86 Examining decomposition 35:21.14 Van found two days after Morgan kidnapped 39:17.35 Conclusion  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

David Anthony Burke, known as the singer D4vd, writes songs with bloody imagery and titles like, "Romantic Homicide." His career was on the rise. But, as his first-ever "World Tour" began, the body of a missing child from Lake Elsinore, California, was found in the front trunk of Burke's Tesla. The decomposing remains of 14-year-old Celeste Rivas Hernandez were found in two bags stashed in the vehicle. A Los Angeles grand jury has been looking into the death of Celeste since November, and Burke's parents and brother have been fighting in court to avoid having to testify. In the Habeas Corpus petition, for the first time, David Anthony Burke is named as the target of the investigation into the death of Celeste. Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack examine the case, the timeline, and discuss certain items mentioned in the writ, such as a "cadaver bag" containing some of the remains of Celeste.  Transcribe Highlights00:06.14 Introduction D4VD and Celeste Rivas 02:42.81 Part of Celeste remains in a "cadaver bag" 05:06.65 David Anthony Burke - D4VD 10:05.78 Was Burke intimate with Celeste? 14:57.53 Workers smell odor of decomp, call cops 20:06.33 Celeste was 14  24:57.55 Body Bags used in videos? 29:54.58 Color of gloves mentioned 35:07.25 Flies do nothing but eat and make babies 40:10.75 Keeping the bones 43:57.86 Conclusion       David Anthony Burke, known as the singer, D4VD, writes songs with bloody imagery and titles like "Romantic Homicide". His career was on the rise. But as his first ever "World Tour" began, the body of a missing child from Lake Elsinore, California,  was found in the front trunk of Burke's Tesla. The decomposing remains of 14-year-old Celeste Rivas Hernandez, found in two bags stashed in the Tesla. A Grand Jury has been looking into the death of Celeste since November and Burke's parents and brother have been fighting in court to avoid having to testify before the Grand Jury. In the Habeas Corpus petition, for the first time, David Anthony Burke is named as the Target of the investigation into the death of Celeste. Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack examine the case, the timeline, and discuss certain items mentioned in the writ, such as a "cadaver bag" containing some of the remains of Celeste.        Transcribe Highlights00:06.14 Introduction D4VD and Celeste Rivas 02:42.81 Part of Celeste remains in a "cadaver bag" 05:06.65 David Anthony Burke - D4VD 10:05.78 Was Burke intimate with Celeste? 14:57.53 Workers smell odor of decomp, call cops 20:06.33 Celeste was 14  24:57.55 Body Bags used in videos? 29:54.58 Color of gloves mentioned 35:07.25 Flies do nothing but eat and make babies 40:10.75 Keeping the bones 43:57.86 Conclusion      See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Caleb Flynn calls 911 at 2:30 a.m. on February 16, claiming a burglar has entered his Ohio home and shot his wife, Ashley Flynn, twice in the head. Flynn, a former music pastor, tells the dispatcher that he was not in the room at the time; he was with their daughters in their room, and they are still asleep. When Tipp City officers arrive, they find signs of an apparent forced entry. Ashley Flynn was a substitute teacher/volleyball coach and the mother of two daughters who will now grow up without her. Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack discuss the Red Flags in the 911 call, as well as the story Caleb Flynn told. The story has garnered national headlines, as Caleb Flynn appeared on "American Idol" in 2013, making it to the "Hollywood Week" episode before being eliminated. Transcribe Highlights00:00.28 Introduction - musicians 03:58.90 American Idol contestant 08:07.72 Caleb Flynn did not get past Hollywood Week 12:51.13 Assessment by civilian 14:30.98 Audio from 911 call  15:25.21 Says she has been shot twice in the head 20:41.49 Head injuries have a lot of blood 25:17.12 Garage door open 30:21.52 How does suspect get into the home 35:12.47 Who is up next on the call sheet 40:02.58 Defense attorney says he is "disappointed and concerned" 45:04.86 Range of Fire 46:21.24 ConclusionSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is a tale of two sisters, Karen and Debra. Karen is loving, responsible, and well-liked by all who know her. She lived with and cared for her parents until they lost their battles with Alzheimer's and cancer. Karen also took care of her finances and was financially well-off for retirement. Debra was gone for decades, living several states away in Louisiana. She never held a steady job and never had any money. When their parents died, Debra moved back to Florida, with no money and no place to stay, and Karen let her sister move into her home. Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack dig into the story of how the evil sister murdered the good sister with a bullet to the chest, wrapped her body in a trash bag, and buried her in a hole in the backyard. Transcribe Highlights 00:00.15 Introduction  02:10.97 Victim loves working in her yard 05:06.55 Two sisters, Karen and Debra 08:25.53 Debra comes back after parents die 12:14.34 Perp keeping victim close after death 16:55.11 Seeing a hole in the yard 20:57.88 Odor of decomposing body 25:33.91 Bad smell doesn't mean something is there 29:48.57 Very careful digging to not miss anything 35:07.70 Everything goes to the lab 40:27.15 Karen has one GSW to the chest 44:43.54 Debra claims she is "blameless" 45:28.45 ConclusionSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Part 2: The Nancy Guthrie kidnapping case has sparked national interest as the days continue to add up. As of today, Nancy Guthrie has been missing 25 days. Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack look at the forensic evidence left behind inside the house as well as articles of evidence found by local citizens trying to help find the 84-year-old mother of Today Show Co-Host, Savannah Guthrie.              Transcribe Highlights00:00.07 Introduction Guthrie Part 2 02:22.10 DNA Profile didn't get hit in CODIS 07:43.42 DNA Profile in feces in a dry toilet 11:31.21 Getting a sample 15:53.69 What is "touch" DNA 20:07.83 Trying to understand movements of suspect and victim 24:58.58 Too many people involved 30:46.46 Tucson Couple finds bloody glove near scene 35:18.30 FBI did not respond as quickly as hoped 40:08.54 Reason agents leak talent contract terms 41:19.73 Conclusion  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

The 84-year-old mother of Today Show host Savannah Guthrie, Nancy Guthrie, was last seen January 31, 2026 around 9:47pm. The next day around noon, Nancy Guthrie is reported missing. More than three weeks later she is still missing. Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack explore the forensic evidence left behind and how it has been treated by officials on the ground in an attempt to uncover the one piece of evidence that will bring Nancy Guthrie home.             Transcribe Highlights 00:02.33 Introduction - Security 01:07.26 Securing a Crime Scene 03:59.01 Nancy Guthrie - Why her? 08:44.60 Sheriff's department turned scene released back to the family 13:57.53 Comparing Heuermann home 19:46.55 Blood on the ground 25:08.12 Direction blood takes investigator 29:53.66 Blood with a bubble like appearance 35:02.04 2:28am at least 20 feet away from Apple watch 40:18.20 Foot step making impression on floor 45:30.29 How often is Guthrie home cleaned? 47:41.59 Conclusion Part OneSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

The Elmira Police Department named Alfred Raymond Murray Jr. as the lone suspect in the 1964 murder of 12-year-old Mary Simpson. The case remained unsolved for 62 years, but it was never forgotten. After getting a grant from the Season of Justice in 2022, Elmira police, with the assistance of the FBI, reopened the case using modern forensic methods. In 2023, the Elmira Police Department partnered with the Criminal Investigation Resource Center at Russell Sage College, and the case was organized and digitized, allowing for a review of evidence and forensics. Forensic evidence from the case was sent to Othram's laboratory in the Woodlands, Texas, where scientists were able to build a comprehensive DNA profile of the unknown suspect. The profile was used by the FBI's forensic genetic genealogy team, and working together with the Elmira Police Department, investigators found the suspect, Alfred Raymond Murray Jr. Murray died on March 16, 2004, at the age of 73, almost 40 years to the day. Mary Simpson vanished on  March 15, 1964. She was 12. Transcribe Highlights 00:00.00 Introduction Update Mary Simpson  05:12.41 Finding identity of killer 10:00.17 A rookie cop in 1964 would be in his/her 80s now 15:00.91 Community was looking for Mary Simpson, 12 20:03.67 Killer shoved dirt in Mary's mouth 25:04.15 Predator will stand over victim  30:40.23 Othram did genetic genealogy 31:37.91 Murray may have been responsible for multiple sexual assaults on children for years 34:57.02 Mary's body covered in rocks and dirt, choked to death 37:02.08 Conclusion  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

The King County Medical Examiner's Office ruled Kurt Cobain's death on April 5, 1994, was the result of a self-inflicted gunshot wound to the head. In the last 30 plus years many theories of what "really" happened have appeared in books and documentaries but now comes a team of independent forensic scientists who are calling for a fresh investigation into the death of the 27-year-old. Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack discuss the investigation into the death of Kurt Cobain, was it self-inflicted as originally thought, or did someone get away with murder.               Transcribe Highlights00:00.00 Introduction 01:54.87 Kurt Cobain death - study claims homicide 07:15.49 Grunge movement 10:06.79 The 27 Club 15:05.10 Working the Guthrie Kidnapping 20:16.32 Cobain had recent NPW  24:56.30 Drug abuse deaths are shocking 30:27.27 Cobain is in garage apartment, by himself 35:10.51 Checking mouth during autopsy - evidence of fouling, no stippling 40:17.50 Tolerance of the user is part of the discussion 45:27.40 Study is peer reviewed - International Journal of Forensic Science 50:08.25 Lungs become very heavy 53:57.93 ConclusionSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

More information has been dropped on the Jeffrey Epstein files and two things are taking center stage: 1. The autopsy and 2. New Mexico Ranch. Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack discuss the autopsy and the ranch in New Mexico. Professor Morgan explains what happens when an autopsy is being observed by another professional such as Dr Michael Baden and what the "facts" determined during the autopsy mean regarding homicide or suicide.              Transcribe Highlights00:00.00 Introduction Epstein 03:07.94 More info keeps dropping 07:12.66 New focus on New Mexico ranch 12:20.59 Epstein worth $577 million 17:15.13 Michael Baden an observer at Epstein autopsy 22:55.99 Baden would have been taking notes 28:04.65 Epstein death more consistent with homicide 34:24.21 The furrow is very high on the neck 39:31.13 Impact injury below shoulder 43:49.58 After Autopsy it was agreed more info was needed 48:02.68 Conclusion  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

On July 17, at 5:13 a.m., Molly Hubbard called 911 to report a man on fire in the street. During the 911 call, a man can be heard in the background moaning while Hubbard shouts at him to "drop and roll." Then, the line disconnected. Police and EMS arrive on the scene and find Ryan Crawford suffering from severe burns to his face, arms, legs, and backside. Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack examine the story told to 911. and the story told by the forensics to explain why Molly Hubbard was arrested and charged with murder. Transcribe Highlights00:05.21 Introduction - Wichita 04:02.49 Death in the middle of a theft 09:05.35 May have given Crawford something to calm him down 14:42.20 Molly Hubbard left scene 20:03.02 Death with fire is complex 25:16.54 Electrocution victim, one small point of entry 30:26.37 Story lacks credibility 35:34.81 Degree of burns 40:21.14 Burn victims body swell, requires splitting 45:14.94 Molly Hubbard sold scrap metal while cohort in hospital 47:02.26 ConclusionSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.