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Beyond The Barrel Podcast

Beyond The Barrel Podcast

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Ep 63: From Trauma to Purpose: The American Hero Hunt Story

Jun 8, 20261h 42m

Ep 62: Police Defensive Tactics with a Pro Fighter Turned Cop: Direct Action Training

Jun 1, 20261h 36m

Ep 61: Beyond the Badge: The Ugly Underneath with Carlos Rodriguez

May 22, 20261h 41m

Ep 60: Building The Future Of Police Training and Culture with Badge Ops

May 15, 20261h 12m

59: Hidden Mental Health Crisis in Policing: The Overwatch Collective Story

May 8, 20261h 20m

Ep 58: From Gary to Sheriff’s Race: Deputy Chief Edward Jenkins on Leadership, Legacy & Lake County

May 1, 20261h 15m

Ep 57: Talking People Off the Edge: Crisis Negotiation, Leadership Pressure & the Future of Policing

Apr 22, 20261h 36m

Ep 56: The Hidden Trauma of Police Work | Joseph Gray on Officer Mental Health, Critical Incidents & “Ghost Blood”

Apr 15, 20262h 11m

Ep 55: From Battlefield to Backroads: Building Legacy Beyond the Badge and the Barrel

What happens when a life of service doesn’t stop at retirement—but evolves into something bigger? In this episode of Beyond the Barrel, we sit down with a man who’s lived multiple lifetimes in one—Army veteran, K-9 deputy, entrepreneur, and mentor. From serving as an Infantryman to working in Intelligence and Anti-Terrorism, his military career spanned over two decades and four MOS roles, shaping a mindset built on discipline, adaptability, and mission-first leadership. But the story doesn’t end when the uniform comes off. While transitioning out of the military, he didn’t slow down—he accelerated. Patenting designs and launching Warrior Rack, stepping into law enforcement as a K-9 Deputy, FTO, and Instructor, and simultaneously building multiple successful businesses—from emergency vehicle upfitting to agriculture and maple production. Now, he’s pouring that experience into the next generation as an Army JROTC Instructor—continuing to lead, teach, and shape future leaders. This episode goes beyond the resume. It’s about identity after service, building legacy through leadership, and proving that purpose doesn’t retire. Off duty. Off script. Beyond the Barrel. Timestamps: 5:30 Turning point 10:00 Suspicious stop 15:00 Breaking point 20:00 Life-changing ride 25:00 Mental health 30:00 Communication skills 35:00 Career reflection 40:00 What could’ve happened 48:00 Mentorship & bond 56:00 Bigger meaning 1:04:00 Final message If you like what you hear, like, subscribe and follow the Beyond the Barrel podcast on Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/beyond_the_barrel_pod/⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Apr 8, 20261h 10m

Ep 54: What Makes a Real Cop? Crime, K-9s, and the Bay Area Grind

In this episode of Beyond the Barrel, we sit down with Nick, a former officer from the Daly City Police Department who spent nine years policing the streets of the San Francisco Bay Area. Working in one of the most demanding environments in the country, Nick’s career was shaped by high-crime neighborhoods and a department culture that expected cops to work hard, stay proactive, and take bad people to jail. Nick’s path in policing took him through crime suppression assignments, gang task force operations, and multiple plain-clothes roles focused on surveillance and street enforcement. Ultimately, he reached one of his career goals becoming a K-9 handler while gaining experience in investigations that ranged from petty theft all the way to homicide. This conversation goes beyond the badge and into the mindset it takes to thrive in high pressure policing. We talk about proactive police work, the decision-making that happens in split seconds, and the culture that shapes the kind of cop you become. Because Beyond the Barrel is where we pour truths straight, no chaser. Timestamps: 2:00 – Nick Background 10:00 – Proactive Policing 20:00 – Leadership Culture 30:00 – Job Reality 40:00 – Hiring Issues 50:00 – Early Life 1:00:00 – Career Path 1:15:00 – Street Experience 1:30:00 – Lessons Learned If you like what you hear, like, subscribe and follow the Beyond the Barrel podcast on Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/beyond_the_barrel_pod/⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Apr 1, 20262h 18m

Ep: 53 Inside Unsolved Murders w/ a Crime TV Producer & Investigator

Who Tells the Victim’s Story? The Woman Helping Police Bring Justice to the Forgotten In this episode, we sit down with Ms. Guillen, a media producer, advocate, and law enforcement ally dedicated to solving violent crimes and keeping victims’ stories alive. In 2012, she launched Case Files: Chicago, a groundbreaking series designed to assist law enforcement in solving homicide cases and bringing justice to families. Airing for six seasons on The CW, the show earned strong ratings and an Emmy nomination in 2018. Her mission extends beyond television. From producing true-crime documentaries like Porter—recognized by TIME Magazine—to leading The Whole Truth Project, she has built bridges between media, investigators, and families seeking answers. Her work has helped keep unsolved cases in the spotlight, organize press conferences, and create art exhibits honoring victims. Along the way, she has built trusted relationships with law enforcement agencies nationwide. Recognized for her impact, Ms. Guillen received the FBI Director’s Leadership Award and continues supporting law enforcement through training initiatives and advocacy programs. This conversation dives into the intersection of media, justice, and advocacy—and the powerful role storytelling plays in keeping victims from being forgotten. Off duty. Off script. This is Beyond the Barrel. Timestamps: 0:31 — Crisis Role 3:30 — Early Life 6:45 — Life-Changing Attack 9:30 — Crime Show Start 12:00 — First Case 16:00 — K9 Breakthrough 20:00 — Viral Collab 24:00 — Police Impact 30:00 — Emotional Toll 34:00 — Mental Health If you like what you hear, like, subscribe and follow the Beyond the Barrel podcast on Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/beyond_the_barrel_pod/⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Mar 22, 20261h 11m

The Art of Indirection Mini Series: From 22-Year-Old Rookie to Running a State Interdiction Unit

On this episode we sit down with Brandon Deckert, a Wyoming Highway Patrol Sergeant whose career has been built on the front lines of criminal interdiction and K-9 operations. Born and raised in northern Minnesota, he began his law enforcement career with the Wyoming Highway Patrol in 2007 at just 22 years old after earning a degree in Criminal Justice with a minor in Psychology. In 2011, he was selected for the WHP K-9 Team, where he has handled three single-purpose narcotics detection dogs and built a reputation as a dedicated interdiction officer. In 2023, Brandon was promoted to Sergeant, supervising Uinta and Lincoln Counties in Troop “D” while serving as the Wyoming Highway Patrol K-9 Team Coordinator. In 2025, he transitioned into the Special Operations Division, where he now supervises a full-time interdiction team and oversees the statewide K-9 Unit. His work in interdiction earned him the Rocky Mountain HIDTA Interdiction Officer of the Year Award in 2021. Outside of law enforcement, Brandon is a Christian, a father of three, and the owner of True North K-9 Solutions, helping agencies build stronger K-9 programs through training, risk assessments, documentation, and detection dog development. In this conversation, we go beyond the uniform and around the bourbon barrel to talk about K-9 culture, interdiction, leadership, faith, and building programs that actually work on the street. Timestamps: 03:00 Minnesota Roots 06:05 Becoming Trooper 11:00 Communication Skills 16:20 Sports & Football 18:20 K-9 Inspiration 27:00 Policing Culture 35:00 Rural Policing 42:58 Interdiction Career 59:10 Dog Business If you like what you hear, like, subscribe and follow the Beyond the Barrel podcast on Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/beyond_the_barrel_pod/⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Mar 15, 20261h 26m

Ep 52: Beyond the Name: Forging a Legacy Outside the Shadow

Beyond the Barrel is where we pour truths straight, no chaser. Garry Chapman was born into a name the country already knew. As the son of Duane Chapman, better known as “Dog the Bounty Hunter,” he grew up around criminal behavior, accountability, and national attention. Cameras, criticism, and pressure were nothing new. But legacy doesn’t have to mean imitation. Instead of chasing fugitives on television, Garry chose professional law enforcement. He left Hawaii, stepped out of the shadow of a larger-than-life public figure, and built his own reputation through patrol work, proactive enforcement, DUI interdiction, and criminal investigations. In this episode, we go beyond the last name and into the man behind it. We discuss identity, public perception, constitutional policing, and what it means to earn credibility when people assume it was handed to you. This one isn’t about fame. It’s about independence. It’s about resilience. It’s about earning your own badge. Off duty. Off script. And beyond the barrel. Timestamps: 02:47 – Cop Aspirations 05:27 – Celebrity Kid 08:54 – Explorer Program 14:54 – Parents’ Past 24:58 – Mom’s Cancer 31:00 – Small-Town Start 36:31 – Sister’s Tragedy 39:45 – Fitness Wake-Up 53:14 – Law School Plans If you like what you hear, like, subscribe and follow the Beyond the Barrel podcast on Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/beyond_the_barrel_pod/⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Mar 8, 20261h 9m

Ep 51: Depth Under Pressure: Stoicism, Submarines, and the Warrior’s Mind

This week, we go beneath the surface literally and philosophically. Commander William C. Spears is a submarine warfare officer in the United States Navy, a nuclear-trained officer, and the author of Stoicism as a Warrior Philosophy. From enlisting in the Navy’s nuclear propulsion program straight out of Pineville, Louisiana, to graduating from the United States Naval Academy with a degree in Mechanical Engineering, Spears has built a career defined by discipline, depth, and deliberate leadership. He has served aboard multiple nuclear-powered submarines, including as Weapons Officer on a fast-attack submarine and Executive Officer on a Trident missile submarine—positions where decisions aren’t just tactical… they’re existential. Ashore, he has evaluated combat readiness across the submarine force and now serves inside the Pentagon in strategic assessment, shaping national defense at the highest levels before returning to sea duty in 2026. But this conversation goes beyond rank and résumé. We dive into: • What leadership looks like when you’re sealed underwater for months at a time • How Stoicism moves from ancient philosophy to modern warfare • The psychological weight of command in environments where failure isn’t an option • How discipline, ethics, and mental clarity define a warrior long before combat • And why antagonizing your family with philosophical inquiry might just be elite-level dad humor From nuclear reactors to national strategy, from depth charges to depth of character—this episode explores what it means to lead with conviction when pressure is constant and unseen. Off duty. Off script. And far beyond the barrel. Timestamps: 3:15 Louisiana Roots 6:20 9/11 Experience 14:40 Submarine Culture 20:05 Life Underwater 25:50 Family Separation 32:10 Writing Journey 39:20 Publishing Process 46:30 Stockdale Influence 52:05 Hawaii & Japan If you like what you hear, like, subscribe and follow the Beyond the Barrel podcast on Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/beyond_the_barrel_pod/⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Mar 1, 20261h 10m

Ep 50: From the Classroom to the Streets: Making a Real Impact with Daniel Herrera

Are We Training for the Threat… or Ignoring the Real Problem? Beyond the Barrel is where we pour truths—straight, no chaser. This episode dives into the life of Officer Daniel Herrera, a former elementary school teacher turned law enforcement officer who now stands on the front lines of school safety and crisis response. Herrera shares how his early years in education shaped his approach to policing, why protecting kids carries a different emotional weight, and what it’s like serving as both a School Resource Officer and Team Leader on a Crisis/Hostage Negotiation Team. We talk active threat preparedness, tactical medical training, and the realities of preparing officers, staff, and students for moments everyone hopes never come. But beyond the badge, Daniel opens up about family life, Jiu Jitsu, motorcycles, and the importance of building trust off-duty through community initiatives like his annual “Ballin’ for Unity” basketball game. It’s a conversation about service, responsibility, and the human side of the people standing guard over our schools. Off duty, off script, and beyond the barrel. Timestamps: 07:30 – Children’s Book 12:00 – Cuban Upbringing 19:30 – Personal Tragedy 24:30 – Career Switch 30:30 – Teaching Purpose 36:00 – Street Crimes 48:00 – Young Officers 50:00 – Jiu-Jitsu Start 01:25:00 – Justice & Family If you like what you hear, like, subscribe and follow the Beyond the Barrel podcast on Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/beyond_the_barrel_pod/⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Feb 22, 20261h 31m

Ep 49: Pouring Purpose, Dirk’s Mission to Honor the Fallen | The End of Watch Legacy Fund

When the End of Watch is called, Dirk makes sure the family is never forgotten. Nineteen years in law enforcement changes a man but for Dirk, it clarified his purpose. Husband. Father. Cop. Bourbon enthusiast. And founder of the End of Watch Legacy Fund, a mission born from loss, service, and an unwavering commitment to those who never made it home. In this episode of Beyond the Barrel, Dirk shares how he combined two worlds his love for bourbon and his devotion to law enforcement to build something bigger than himself. The End of Watch Legacy Fund raises money with one clear goal: to provide $10,000 directly to the families of Indiana officers killed in the line of duty, ensuring their sacrifice is honored with more than words. This isn’t just about bourbon. It’s about brotherhood. It’s about legacy. And it’s about taking care of our own long after the End of Watch is called. Off duty. Off script. And driven by purpose this conversation goes well beyond the barrel. Timestamps: 01:40 Meet Dirk 03:00 Fundraiser Origin 06:00 Tough Moments 08:30 Communication Skills 14:30 Career Start 17:30 SWAT Life 20:00 Charity Begins 22:00 Bourbon Events 28:30 Fallen Officer 33:30 Sierra Strong 47:00 Future Plans 56:50 Justice Question If you like what you hear, like, subscribe and follow the Beyond the Barrel podcast on Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/beyond_the_barrel_pod/⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Feb 16, 20261h 0m

Ep. 48: Gunfire, Flight Lines, and the Fourth Amendment with Sgt. Jake Bigelow

Two officer-involved shootings. First on scene to a home invasion at a cop’s house. Task force interdiction. And zero tolerance for bad Fourth Amendment policing. Sgt. Jake Bigelow is a 13-year law enforcement veteran with the Casper Police Department, a former multi-agency drug task force officer, and a legal instructor with Blue to Gold Law Enforcement Training. Before policing, he served in the U.S. Air Force Security Forces and the Army National Guard as a flight medic, with additional experience as a firefighter and paramedic. In this episode, Jake challenges the idea that “good intentions” excuse bad searches, breaks down real-world interdiction mistakes cops still make, and explains why constitutional policing is the difference between locking criminals up—or letting them walk. No fluff. No excuses. Just hard truths from someone who’s lived it. Timestamps: 00:02:30 Jake’s Background 00:08:45 Troubled Upbringing 00:15:30 Mentorship Impact 00:29:45 Pilot Life 00:31:00 Midair Emergency 00:36:25 Fire to Police 00:38:45 Drug Task Force 01:17:35 Shoot or Die 01:24:00 After the Shooting 01:39:35 Acceptance of Death 01:56:00 Mental Health Stigma 02:03:10 Justice Defined If you like what you hear, like, subscribe and follow the Beyond the Barrel podcast on Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/beyond_the_barrel_pod/⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Feb 8, 20262h 8m

Ep. 47: Raising Free Thinkers in a Broken World: BAM on Homeschooling, Justice & Wild Chaos

BAM has interviewed everyone from addicts to authors, athletes to warriors but his most important mission isn’t behind a mic. It’s at home. In this episode of Beyond the Barrel, we go far beyond podcasting and into the culture war being fought over our kids, our schools, and our justice system. BAM explains why he pulled his children out of public school, how homeschooling creates independent thinkers instead of obedient workers, and why families have to take responsibility for the next generation. We also break down what justice is supposed to mean, why the current system fails at times, and our opinion on how it could improve. This wasn’t a polished interview it was an organic, no-script conversation the way podcasts were meant to be. Real stories. Real beliefs. No filters. Because in the middle of all the chaos, the truth still deserves to be poured straight. Timestamps: 05:10 – Childhood hustle 10:30 – Leaving home 17:45 – Joining Marines 24:00 – Iraq deployments 31:30 – Loss & mindset 38:00 – Leaving service 46:30 – First business 58:30 – Scaling fast 1:17:00 – Charity mission 1:38:30 – Family focus If you like what you hear, like, subscribe and follow the Beyond the Barrel podcast on Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/beyond_the_barrel_pod/⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Feb 1, 20261h 56m

Ep. 46: From Cape Cod to LAPD: The Stories That Shape Cops

Steve Gould has spent nearly two decades in law enforcement, but his career has taken a path few ever walk. From working the wild and unpredictable terrain of Cape Cod as a Natural Resources Officer, to pushing a cruiser on the street, to becoming a civilian background investigator for the LAPD, Steve has seen every side of the badge. In 2018, he launched the wildly popular Things Police See podcast — a space where active and retired cops come off script and tell the stories that never make it into official reports. The funny ones. The dark ones. The ones that stay with you long after the shift ends. Now, through his Sgt. Steve YouTube channel, he breaks down body-cam footage with the kind of insight only someone who’s lived it can provide. In this episode of Beyond the Barrel, we go deeper than the uniform and the footage. We talk about what those moments really do to the men and women who experience them, how storytelling has become a form of therapy for cops, and why the truth of police work is far more complicated than what the headlines or viral clips ever show. This is a raw, honest conversation about life behind the badge, the weight cops carry home, and the power of telling the stories that need to be told — straight, no chaser. Timestamps: 07:30 Bodycam Breakdown 14:30 Police Upbringing 21:00 Communication Skills 27:45 Academy Reality 34:30 Firearms Training 41:30 LAPD Experience 48:15 California Policing 55:30 Career Reflections 1:08:30 Leaving It Better If you like what you hear, like, subscribe and follow the Beyond the Barrel podcast on Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/beyond_the_barrel_pod/⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jan 22, 20261h 14m

Ep. 45: Truth Is a Dangerous Weapon: Adam & Tyler Hoover on Policing, PTSD, and Justice

Truth isn’t always comfortable and it’s rarely safe. In this episode of Beyond the Barrel, Kenny sits down with Adam and Tyler Hoover for a raw, unfiltered conversation about war, policing, trauma, and the cost of speaking out. Adam’s path took him from the U.S. Marine Corps into law enforcement, working everything from small-town policing to state-level interdiction units, building a career rooted in proactive enforcement and firsthand experience with how the system truly operates. Tyler began in the U.S. Army’s 82nd Airborne, deploying to Baghdad during Operation Iraqi Freedom before transitioning into law enforcement, where he served in SWAT, Street Crimes, and as a Field Training Officer. As the founder of Anti-Hero Broadcast, he’s become one of the most controversial voices in the first responder space by openly challenging toxic leadership and performative politics. Together, they break down why confrontation is sometimes necessary, the toll bad leadership takes on law enforcement, and how war and policing permanently shape perspective. The conversation turns deeply personal as they share the story of their uncle’s murder and the long fight for justice. This isn’t a safe or polished conversation—it’s the truth, poured straight. Off duty. Off script. Beyond the barrel. Timestamps: 08:30 Career Paths 17:30 Toxic Agencies 27:30 Cold Case Murder 37:00 Family Impact 46:00 State Law Differences 55:30 Drug Interdiction 1:05:30 Rural Policing 1:15:30 Border & Crime 1:25:00 Final Thoughts If you like what you hear, like, subscribe and follow the Beyond the Barrel podcast on Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/beyond_the_barrel_pod/⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jan 15, 20261h 32m

Ep 44: From Narc COP to Prison Number: What Policing Culture Doesn’t Warn About

Beyond the Barrel is where we pour truths straight, no chaser. In this episode, we sit down with David Hines, a former law enforcement officer whose career in a South Louisiana narcotics unit ended with a federal civil rights conviction and a prison sentence. What followed was the loss of his badge, his career, his identity and a reckoning that reshaped how he views leadership, ethics, and responsibility in policing. David doesn’t speak in excuses or deflection. He speaks in ownership. This conversation goes beyond headlines and courtrooms and into the real consequences of misconduct legal, professional, and deeply personal. We talk about the impact on family, the erosion of trust, and how culture, supervision, and decision-making can quietly push officers toward irreversible mistakes. This episode isn’t about tearing policing down. It’s about protecting it by confronting uncomfortable truths, emphasizing accountability, and challenging leaders to build cultures that prevent failure instead of explaining it away. If you’re an officer, supervisor, or leader who believes integrity matters and that hard conversations save careers this one’s for you. Off duty. Off script. And beyond the barrel. Timestamps: 11:30 – Law Enforcement Roots 24:00 – Early Patrol Years 37:45 – Career Progression 51:30 – Narcotics Unit 1:06:00 – Leadership & Culture 1:20:45 – Critical Incident 1:34:30 – Mental Impact 1:48:15 – Prison Reality 1:59:30 – Lessons Learned If you like what you hear, like, subscribe and follow the Beyond the Barrel podcast on Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/beyond_the_barrel_pod/⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jan 8, 20262h 9m

Ep. 43 : 4 Decades of Command and Growth in the Arkansas State Police

With more than four decades of service to the Arkansas State Police, Keith Eremea exemplifies leadership, experience, and service-driven command. Serving 43 years as a commissioned Trooper, he rose through nearly every rank—from Trooper to Captain—mentoring and supervising hundreds of Troopers statewide. His career spans patrol, highway interdiction, training, emergency response, and executive leadership. He commanded the largest troop in Arkansas, overseeing more than 100 personnel, reducing crashes and fatalities, expanding DWI enforcement, and coordinating major state and federal operations. As a leader in interdiction, he supervised teams responsible for seizing millions in narcotics and currency and dismantling major drug operations. A nationally recognized trainer, he helped introduce PIT training in Arkansas, modernized emergency vehicle operations, developed statewide curricula, and instructed thousands of officers nationwide. He also served as Canine Coordinator and played a key role in updating fitness standards and training systems. This episode explores leadership under pressure, lessons learned, and leaving a lasting legacy in law enforcement. Off duty. Off script. Beyond the barrel. Timestamps: 02:06 – Motivation mindset 04:04 – Rockefeller influence 06:15 – Interdiction bug 09:21 – Line-of-duty loss 12:17 – Fleeing felons 18:30 – Craft mastery 22:10 – PIT training 39:20 – Communication skills 52:01 – Interdiction dangers If you like what you hear, like, subscribe and follow the Beyond the Barrel podcast on Instagram:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/beyond_the_barrel_pod/⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jan 1, 20261h 46m

Ep 42: The Bond Between Handler and Dog, Chris and Tambo

K-9s don’t get a pension. They don’t get a retirement plan. They get us—or they get forgotten. In this episode of Beyond the Barrel, we sit down with Chris Bingham—a law enforcement leader with over 20 years of service and a lifelong commitment to police K-9s. A graduate of Northwestern University’s School of Police Staff and Command, Chris has built and led K-9 programs nationwide—but his most powerful story is the bond with his retired partner, K-9 Tambo. Chris opens up about loyalty beyond the uniform, the responsibility handlers carry after retirement, and why advocating for working dogs through organizations like Project K9 Hero matters more than ever. This conversation goes beyond training and tactics—into leadership, sacrifice, fitness, fatherhood, and honoring those who served without a voice. Off duty. Off script. Beyond the Barrel. Project K-9 Hero 00:00 — K9 Resilience 01:30 — Career Transition 04:50 — Growing Up 07:40 — Fatherhood Impact 11:00 — Communication Matters 15:00 — Finding Direction 21:00 — Entering K9 28:20 — Mentorship Loss 36:40 — Handler Bond 47:05 — Tambo’s Story If you like what you hear, like, subscribe and follow the Beyond the Barrel podcast on Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/beyond_the_barrel_pod/⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Dec 30, 20251h 29m

Ep 41: Beyond the Barrel From the Beat to the Jungle: Healing Beyond the Badge

Mike’s story starts in North Bellmore, New York—an accountant chasing numbers until he realized his real calling was chasing justice. Trading spreadsheets for a badge, he joined the Atlanta Police Department in 1993, later serving nearly two decades with the Suffolk County Police Department. But after years in the trenches, Mike’s service came with unseen scars. Following his retirement, he faced anger, depression, and the heavy weight of PTSD. In this episode of Beyond the Barrel, Mike opens up about the dark side of life after the job—and the unexpected path that led him to healing through plant-based medicine, specifically Ayahuasca. What began as a desperate search for peace became a mission: helping other veterans and first responders reclaim their lives from trauma. This is a story about breaking stigma, finding purpose, and discovering that sometimes the road to redemption runs through the jungle. Follow Mike and his journey at @theresilientwarrior5778 (https://www.instagram.com/theresilientwarrior5778?igsh=Mmx4c2pmNDhmaGh3). Timestamps: 04:00 – Mental Health 07:45 – Hockey Roots 13:10 – Atlanta Chaos 21:55 – Olympic Policing 27:15 – NY Transition 34:40 – Anti-Crime 41:35 – Off-Duty Life 48:00 – Breaking Point 52:35 – PTSD Realization 55:30 – Healing Journey If you like what you hear, like, subscribe and follow the Beyond the Barrel podcast on Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/beyond_the_barrel_pod/⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Dec 15, 20251h 34m

Ep.40: Silenced? Never. The Resilience of Officer Melissa Trump & K-9 Tiko

Silence protects the wrong people. I chose a different path. Beyond the Barrel is where we pour truths—straight, no chaser. Officer Melissa Trump “Silence protects the wrong people. I chose a different path.” When her department tried to terminate her, Melissa refused to be silenced. With integrity, strength, and resilience, she defended her name, kept her badge, and proved that courage isn’t just worn on a uniform—it’s carried in the heart. A K-9 handler and fierce advocate for justice, Melissa and her Belgian Malinois, Tiko, were reunited and Melissa continues to serve their community with professionalism and purpose. Today, Melissa uses her voice—and her experience—to stand up for others who have been wronged. She believes in speaking the truth, challenging injustice, and doing what’s right, even when it isn’t easy. This episode goes beyond the badge and into the battle—where integrity was tested, courage took the lead, and justice had a name: Melissa Trump. 01:20 – Police Culture 03:15 – Early Life 04:20 – WNBA Dreams 05:52 – Choosing Policing 08:26 – Hiring Process 22:20 – K-9 Journey 32:03 – Targeting Begins 41:37 – Son’s Arrest 55:14 – Merit Hearing 59:49 – K-9 Returned If you like what you hear, like, subscribe and follow the Beyond the Barrel podcast on Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/beyond_the_barrel_pod/⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Dec 8, 20251h 24m

Ep. 39: Never Broken: A Sister’s Mission After an Officer’s Death

In this powerful episode, Shelley shares the emotional story behind Project Never Broken, the nonprofit she created to honor her brother Greg — a dedicated law enforcement officer tragically killed in the line of duty. From Greg’s early career in undercover work to the deep impact of his loss, Shelley opens up about family, service, trauma, healing, and the mission to support first responders struggling with the unseen weight of the job. She also reveals the inspiration behind her upcoming Cruise With a Purpose, a first-of-its-kind retreat designed to help first responders and their spouses find connection, therapy, and hope. This conversation is raw, heartfelt, and filled with purpose — a reminder of the resilience that emerges after unimaginable loss. Timestamps: 04:00 Family Service 05:15 Shelley’s Career 07:05 Entrepreneur Drive 09:10 Learning & Growth 10:25 Greg’s Personality 13:45 Undercover Work 18:30 Sibling Bond 27:55 The Call 32:50 Trauma Impact 55:40 Cruise Mission If you like what you hear, like, subscribe and follow the Beyond the Barrel podcast on Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/beyond_the_barrel_pod/⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Dec 1, 20251h 13m

Ep 38: From the Rockies to the Edge: Surviving the Aftermath

Five years on the streets of Colorado taught Jordan how to handle chaos—until one call changed everything. A highly publicized critical incident ripped through her life, leaving her battling severe PTSD and a storm she couldn’t outrun. She left the badge behind, moving to Florida to rebuild what was left of herself. Now, years later, Jordan’s story takes an unexpected turn. Working with dogs that help others heal, she’s found pieces of her own peace—and maybe, her way back to the profession that broke and built her all at once. On this episode of Beyond The Barrel, we dive into the silence after the gunfire, the fight for recovery, and the burning question every broken warrior faces: Can you ever truly come back? Timestamps: 01:26 Why Policing 07:40 Family Trauma 15:30 Career Start 23:00 Young Motherhood 33:56 Emotional Spiral 41:32 Rural Policing 50:29 Incident Begins 55:49 Train Impact 1:34:16 Aftermath & Recovery If you like what you hear, like, subscribe and follow the Beyond the Barrel podcast on Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/beyond_the_barrel_pod/⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Nov 22, 20251h 57m

Ep: 37: Inside the Life of a Daytona Cop: lineage, lessons, live patrol

Born into a legacy of law enforcement, Mike Maher carries the torch as a Lieutenant with the Daytona Beach Police Department — following in the footsteps of his father, a retired NYPD Detective Sergeant, and his grandfather, a retired NYPD Deputy Inspector. Hired at just 19 years old in 2008, Maher has spent his career serving on the front lines and behind the scenes. He currently commands the midnight shift in District-1, leading the west side of Daytona Beach and supervising the department’s K-9 Unit. His résumé reads like a masterclass in versatility — hostage negotiator, team leader, and commander, former FTO, property crimes detective, ICAC investigator, dignitary protection officer, CST member, and detective sergeant. National audiences know him from the hit TV series “On Patrol: Live,” where he’s been featured for three years alongside his brothers, Sergeant James Maher and Sergeant Chris Maher — a rare trio of siblings serving the same mission on camera and in real life. Off duty, Maher is a devoted husband and father of two, driven by faith, family, and service. A proud, unapologetic Catholic, he’s passionate about mentoring and training the next generation of officers — building not just better cops, but better men and women of integrity. Timestamps: 01:45 - Early Life & 9/11 Legacy 07:30 - National Unity After 9/11 11:00 - Why Law Enforcement 16:00 - Career Start & Daytona PD 19:45 - Evolution & Leadership 23:00 - Difficult Units & Mental Health 28:00 - Family & Balance 37:00 - Officer-Involved Shootings 54:00 - Advice & On Patrol Live If you like what you hear, like, subscribe and follow the Beyond the Barrel podcast on Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/beyond_the_barrel_pod/⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Nov 15, 20251h 9m

The SWAT Officer Who Refused to Die: Tim Matson’s Story

In this episode of Beyond the Barrel, we sit down with Pittsburgh SWAT officer Tim Matson, who shares his powerful journey from a tough upbringing to surviving the Tree of Life Synagogue shooting. Tim opens up about resilience, loss, and mental health in law enforcement, breaking the stigma around vulnerability. He discusses growing up in McKees Rocks, finding discipline through football, joining SWAT, and the realities of modern policing. This raw, inspiring conversation highlights strength, brotherhood, and recovery after trauma. A must-listen for anyone interested in courage, service, and what it truly means to overcome adversity. 0:58 Tree of Life background 2:32 Growing up 6:20 Football and discipline 8:21 Early jobs before policing 19:12 Joining the SWAT team 30:03 Policing challenges in Pittsburgh 32:21 First officer-involved shooting 44:18 Tree of Life incident 1:02:00 Recovery and PTSD reflections If you like what you hear, like, subscribe and follow the Beyond the Barrel podcast on Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/beyond_the_barrel_pod/⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Nov 8, 20251h 39m

Ep. 35: Beyond the Battlefield: The Rise of Bunker Bros

From leading Infantry squads in Iraq and Syria to running HIMARS missions, contracting in Afghanistan, and working DEA intel on the southern border—our guest has lived the sharp edge of modern warfare. But on Beyond the Barrel, his mission looks different: breaking down the walls inside the veteran community. As the founder of Bunker Bros, he’s pushing for a space where veterans—no matter the era or operation—connect without division. From imagining emo nights at the VFW to building a brotherhood for the next generation, this episode pours truth straight, no chaser—diving into service, identity, and what it takes to reinvent the veteran experience. Timestamps: 2:05 Bunker Bros & app 3:55 Bachelor party story 9:10 Sports cards & family 17:05 9/11 & enlistment 19:30 Iraq & ISIS fights 23:20 Afghanistan & withdrawal 44:00 Analyst vs. military life 45:20 Syria & alliances 1:15:00 Closing reflections ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/beyond_the_barrel_pod/⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Nov 1, 20251h 24m

A Cop, A Whistleblower, A Survivor: Peter Forcelli’s Story

In this episode of Beyond the Barrel we sit down with Peter J. Forcelli the author of “The Deadly Path: How Operation Fast and Furious and Bad Lawyers Armed Mexican Cartels.” A retired ATF Deputy Assistant Director and former NYPD homicide detective, he spent 35 years in law enforcement, rising from beat cop to federal agent. Forcelli specialized in complex gang and firearms investigations, making over 1,000 arrests and serving more than 300 search warrants. He’s been recognized as an expert witness in both federal and state courts and became a whistleblower during the “Operation Fast & Furious” congressional inquiry. Throughout his ATF career, he held leadership roles in Phoenix, Miami, Eastern Canada, and Headquarters—overseeing major cases including the Pulse Nightclub and Parkland shootings. A 9/11 survivor and lung cancer fighter, he now speaks regularly at the 9/11 Memorial and Museum. This episode is one of the most raw and honest conversations we’ve had — packed with stories, lessons, and history. 11:00 – Growing Up in the Bronx 22:00 – Life in the Homicide Unit 33:00 – From NYPD to ATF 44:00 – The Culture of ATF 55:00 – Robbery Crews & Major Cases 1:06:00 – 9/11: The Moment It Happened 1:17:00 – Running from the Tower Collapse 1:28:00 – Reflections & Lessons Learned 1:39:00 – Final Thoughts: The Cost of the Job If you like what you hear, like, subscribe and follow the Beyond the Barrel podcast on Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/beyond_the_barrel_pod/⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Oct 22, 20251h 53m

Ep 33: Jay Dobyns: Undercover in the Heart of Darkness

Jay Dobyns spent more than two decades living in the shadows as one of America’s most daring undercover federal agents. Over the course of 500+ missions, he infiltrated the world’s most violent criminal networks—gun runners, narcotics traffickers, murder-for-hire operations, and the infamous Hells Angels motorcycle gang. His work blurred the line between good and evil, pushing the limits of identity, loyalty, and survival. Once described by a criminal defense attorney as “a government-trained predator sent on seek-and-destroy missions in search of drugs, guns, and violence,” Jay’s story isn’t just about undercover operations—it’s about the psychological toll of living a double life and the price of justice. In this episode of Beyond the Barrel, we go deep into the darkness of deception, courage, and the cost of doing whatever it takes to protect a nation that often never knows your name. Timestamps: 2:10 — Childhood in Indiana 5:18 — Sports & family life 8:22 — College football & Miami Vice 13:14 — NFL Combine reality 22:17 — Joining ATF 27:19 — Cop mindset & violence 46:27 — Waco & Columbine impact 58:26 — Undercover life & brotherhood 1:04:14 — Hells Angels case If you like what you hear, like, subscribe and follow the Beyond the Barrel podcast on Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/beyond_the_barrel_pod/⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Oct 15, 20251h 46m

Bonus Ep : Jerry Wurms is back: The War on Cops from City Hall to Chicago

In this episode of Beyond the Barrel, we sit down with Jerald M. Wurms, a man whose career defies expectations. Before leading SWAT operations, supervising airport security, and coordinating riot control units, Wurms was producing anti-drug PSAs with Nancy Reagan and managing Hollywood sets with stars like Dolph Lundgren. His journey from red carpets to narcotics investigations shows how leadership, adaptability, and service can take many forms. We dive into his experiences investigating drug trafficking, managing high-pressure police operations, and producing groundbreaking media projects like American Vice. Through every chapter, Wurms demonstrates how skills learned in law enforcement translate far beyond the badge. Whether he was tracking suspects with a K-9 unit, handling civil unrest, or creating content with Rodney Dangerfield, his story proves that one career can shape countless lives. This episode is a rare look at a path that blends public service and production. Timestamps: 1:12 – Early career in film5:48 – Anti-drug campaigns9:30 – Shift to law enforcement14:20 – First police experiences20:45 – SWAT leadership27:05 – Riot control work33:10 – Balancing career and life39:42 – Producing American Vice46:30 – Lessons and advice If you like what you hear, like, subscribe and follow the Beyond the Barrel podcast on Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/beyond_the_barrel_pod/⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Oct 10, 20251h 28m

Ep. 32: Danger, Deception & the Undercover Life: ATF Agent Lou

In this episode of Beyond the Barrel we step inside the world of undercover operations with Lou Valoze, a former ATF agent who spent nearly two decades living in the shadows. From his first gun buy to deep infiltrations with cartels, gangs, and organized crime, Lou shares raw stories of risk, sacrifice, and survival. He opens up about the toll undercover work takes on family life, the dangers of building trust with violent criminals, and his most rewarding cases—including a chilling murder-for-hire sting. This conversation pulls back the curtain on undercover policing. Timestamps: 07:30 Early life 12:20 DEA encounter 17:40 INS & L.A. gangs 23:45 First gun buy 30:00 Undercover style 45:15 Dream Team ops 55:00 Family toll 01:15:00 National cases 01:40:00 Murder-for-hire ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/beyond_the_barrel_pod/⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Oct 8, 20251h 54m

Ep. 31: From FBI Dreams to Federal Prison: Ian's Story

In this episode of Beyond the Barrel Ian shares his journey from growing up in Connecticut and dreaming of joining the FBI, to running party promotions, facing Ponzi scheme charges, and serving time in federal prison. He opens up about the lessons learned behind bars, navigating criticism, and transforming his past into a successful podcast platform. This is a story of redemption, resilience, and turning setbacks into opportunities Timestamps: 1:00 Growing up 3:00 Early interests 5:00 Negative comments 9:00 FBI dreams 12:00 Party promotions 17:30 Arrest & charges 28:20 Prison stories 37:10 Building the podcast 46:15 Lessons & future ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/beyond_the_barrel_pod/⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Oct 1, 20251h 4m

Ep. 30: The Digital Shield for Those Who Serve: Pete James Officer Privacy

In this episode of Beyond the Barrel, we talk with Pete James—retired law enforcement veteran and founder of OfficerPrivacy.com. After 25 years of service, Pete turned his focus to protecting officers and families from online threats. OfficerPrivacy.com, staffed by current and former cops, has already helped thousands safeguard their information. In a world where digital exposure puts officers at risk, Pete’s mission is clear: privacy is protection. This episode explores the hidden dangers of online data - because your safety doesn’t end when the shift does. Timestamps: 2:26 Navy career & early intel 4:26 From Navy to law enforcement 7:01 Digital forensics & expert work 15:34 AI’s impact on privacy 22:16 Founding Officer Privacy 29:15 Free vs paid protection 37:05 John Mattingly’s story 44:04 Politicians, laws & loopholes 55:51 Top sites & how to protect yourself ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/beyond_the_barrel_pod/⁠⁠ Pete’s way to provide as much as he can in order to help: Top sites based on web traffic: WhitePages Spokeo TruePeopleSearch BeenVerified TruthFinder FastPeopleSearch 5 most commonly relisted: SpyDialer Veripages NationalCellular VoterRecords InfoTracer 6 sites that offer immediate removal: Been Verified ClustrMaps SpyDialer That's Them VoterRecords National Cellular Voter Record Post from April 2024: https://officerprivacy.com/apr-24 Perplexity AI prompt for OSINT: You are an expert OSINT (Open-Source Intelligence) investigator. Your task is to find as much publicly available information as possible about a person based only on their name. The name of the individual is: [ ] and their last address is in [ ] Background: You are permitted to use all public sources of data, including search engines, news archives, public records databases, social media platforms, academic publications, business listings, online forums, data broker information, and web-scraped directories. The objective is to collect publicly accessible information about them. Please gather and organize findings into the following categories: 1. Basic Identifiers (e.g., age, date of birth, aliases, nicknames, home address, phone number, email address, names of relatives). 2. Online Presence (social media accounts, blogs, personal websites, usernames) 3. Professional Information (employment history, LinkedIn profile, business affiliations) 4. News Mentions or Publicity (any media appearances, articles, interviews) 5. Education Background 6. Legal and Government Records (if publicly available — court cases, licenses, voter records, property ownership) 7. Other Notable Online Activity (forum posts, YouTube comments, GitHub, Reddit activity, etc.) If any areas return no results, indicate so. Prioritize recency and relevance. Provide source URLs for each piece of information retrieved. Ensure that all findings adhere strictly to ethical and legal standards. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Sep 22, 20251h 14m

Ep. 29: From SWAT missions to Police Chief: Matt Thomas’ 32 years in Law enforcement

In this episode of Beyond the Barrel, we sit down with Matt Thomas, retired Chief Deputy of the Pinal County Sheriff’s Office who recently became Chief of Police in Florence, Arizona. Over 32 years, Matt rose from Detention Officer to second-in-command, serving on SWAT for 18 years—five as commander—while leading narcotics and undercover operations against cartel activity. A graduate of the FBI National Academy and bestselling author of Interceptors, Matt shares lessons on leadership, resilience, and law enforcement culture. From 60 Days In to real-world missions, this is a powerful conversation on thriving when the mission never stops. Timestamps: 02:00 Writing Interceptor 10:00 Childhood & gangs 16:00 Small-town move 19:00 Starting law enforcement 26:00 Friends in prison 33:00 Patrol & SWAT 42:00 Family sacrifices 47:00 Narc Sergeant stories 55:00 Becoming Chief ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/beyond_the_barrel_pod/⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Sep 15, 20251h 17m

Ep. 28: From the Streets to Strategy: Chance Cooper’s Evolution in the Kansas City Metro

Welcome to Beyond the Barrel, where every episode takes you deeper into the lives of those who serve on the frontlines. Hosted by two dynamic leaders— Kenny, a nationally recognized K9 interdiction officer, and Attorney Mike, a U.S. Army veteran and seasoned Patrol Supervisor—this podcast is where stories of bravery, sacrifice, and humanity unfold. Beyond the Barrel isn’t just about what happens on duty—it’s about what happens when the uniform comes off. Kenny and Mike sit down with first responders and military personnel to dive into the real stories behind their service, exploring the personal challenges and triumphs that have shaped their lives. But they don’t stop there—they reveal the human side, the passions and interests that make these heroes just like you and me. From veteran and cop to entrepreneur, law enforcement officers possess a wide range of skills that seamlessly translate to the private sector. Yet, we often underestimate our own potential, believing we lack the qualifications to pursue new opportunities. It’s time we give ourselves the credit we deserve and confidently explore what lies beyond the barrel. For over 11 years, Chance Cooper has worn the badge in the Kansas City Metro—serving on SWAT, working complex investigations, and tackling just about every role the job could throw at him. Now, he’s bringing that same tactical mindset to a new mission as Chief of Operations for Apollo. In this episode of Beyond the Barrel, we dig into the grit, the lessons, and the turning points that shaped his journey—from kicking in doors to leading at the highest level. It’s a raw look at the evolution from front-line operator to strategic leader, and the mindset it takes to thrive in both worlds. If you like what you hear, like, subscribe and follow the Beyond the Barrel podcast on Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/beyond_the_barrel_pod/⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Sep 8, 202556 min

Ep. 27: Battle-Tested and Badge-Built: Preston Woodrum's Patrol and Purpose

In this episode of Beyond the Barrel, we sit down with Preston Woodrum Battle of the Badges begins of the Montgomery County Sheriff’s Office in Virginia. A seven-year law enforcement veteran, Preston has served as patrol sergeant, SWAT leader, and firearms instructor. In 2022, he founded Battle of the Badges—a shooting competition uniting officers through marksmanship, accountability, and connection. What began locally is now expanding nationwide. From his roots as a competitive shooter to reshaping police training, Preston brings insight, discipline, and a challenge to tradition. This conversation explores legacy, culture, and the message: in this profession, you don’t just wear the badge—you earn it. Timestamps: 0:00 Intro & Preston’s story2:00 Childhood & basketball4:00 Books to Badges path7:00 First years on patrol10:30 Calls vs. proactivity16:00 Learning empathy23:00 Joining SWAT30:00 Night shift & crew bond44:00 SpongeBob tattoo story47:30 Battle of the Badges begins ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/beyond_the_barrel_pod/⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Sep 1, 20251h 24m

Ep. 26: From Hollywood Sets to SWAT Scenes: The Double Life of Jerry Wurms

Welcome to Beyond the Barrel, where every episode takes you deeper into the lives of those who serve on the frontlines. Hosted by two dynamic leaders— Kenny, a nationally recognized K9 interdiction officer, and Attorney Mike, a U.S. Army veteran and seasoned Patrol Supervisor—this podcast is where stories of bravery, sacrifice, and humanity unfold. Beyond the Barrel isn’t just about what happens on duty—it’s about what happens when the uniform comes off. Kenny and Mike sit down with first responders and military personnel to dive into the real stories behind their service, exploring the personal challenges and triumphs that have shaped their lives. But they don’t stop there—they reveal the human side, the passions and interests that make these heroes just like you and me. From veteran and cop to entrepreneur, law enforcement officers possess a wide range of skills that seamlessly translate to the private sector. Yet, we often underestimate our own potential, believing we lack the qualifications to pursue new opportunities. It’s time we give ourselves the credit we deserve and confidently explore what lies beyond the barrel. In this episode of Beyond the Barrel, we pour truths straight—no chaser—with Jerald M. Wurms, a man who lived two lives that few could ever imagine. From walking the red carpets of Hollywood to leading narcotics investigations in Florida, Wurms’ story is anything but ordinary. Before commanding SWAT units and supervising airport security operations, he was managing film sets with Dolph Lundgren and producing anti-drug PSAs with Nancy Reagan. In this one-of-a-kind episode of Beyond the Barrel, we sit down with a guest whose path defies every stereotype—blending decades of decorated service in Florida law enforcement with an early career in Hollywood’s entertainment industry. From coordinating riot control units at global summits to producing Geraldo Rivera’s “American Vice,” this episode dives into how one man’s journey spans red carpets and road patrols. Whether he was tracking narcotics with a K-9, leading a team through civil unrest, or producing featurettes with Rodney Dangerfield, he’s got a story for every scene—and every crime scene. You won’t want to miss this behind-the-scenes conversation about leadership, adaptability, and the wild, winding road of public service and production. If you like what you hear, like, subscribe and follow the Beyond the Barrel podcast on Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/beyond_the_barrel_pod/⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Aug 22, 20251h 38m

Ep. 25: DEA to Dad: Steve Murphy’s War on Pablo and the Battle That Hit Closer to Home

Welcome to Beyond the Barrel, where every episode takes you deeper into the lives of those who serve on the frontlines. Hosted by two dynamic leaders— Kenny, a nationally recognized K9 interdiction officer, and Attorney Mike, a U.S. Army veteran and seasoned Patrol Supervisor—this podcast is where stories of bravery, sacrifice, and humanity unfold.Beyond the Barrel isn’t just about what happens on duty—it’s about what happens when the uniform comes off. Kenny and Mike sit down with first responders and military personnel to dive into the real stories behind their service, exploring the personal challenges and triumphs that have shaped their lives. But they don’t stop there—they reveal the human side, the passions and interests that make these heroes just like you and me. From veteran and cop to entrepreneur, law enforcement officers possess a wide range of skills that seamlessly translate to the private sector. Yet, we often underestimate our own potential, believing we lack the qualifications to pursue new opportunities. It’s time we give ourselves the credit we deserve and confidently explore what lies beyond the barrel. Before Netflix dramatized his story for millions, Steve Murphy lived it. Raised in the small town of Princeton, West Virginia, Murphy began his career in local law enforcement before joining the Drug Enforcement Administration in 1978. His early years took him to the drug-saturated streets of Miami, chasing pushers and pot dealers during the height of the war on drugs. It was there he met his wife, Connie—thanks to a prank turned serendipitous love story. But Murphy’s legacy would be forged in Colombia. In 1991, he arrived in Bogotá—thrust into the bloody center of the hunt for the world’s most infamous narco, Pablo Escobar. From the chaos of cartel violence to the emotional toll of adopting a baby orphaned by Escobar’s brutality, Murphy’s journey was more than just tactical—it was deeply personal. In this episode of Beyond the Barrel, we go deeper than the Netflix script, unpacking the truths, tragedies, and moral gray zones that defined Murphy’s battle against the Medellín Cartel. It’s the raw, unfiltered account of one man who stood at the intersection of history, violence, and justice. If you like what you hear, like, subscribe and follow the Beyond the Barrel podcast on Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/beyond_the_barrel_pod/⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Aug 15, 20251h 41m

Beyond the Barrel: Final Episode in The Art of Interdiction Miniseries : Michael Stewart – Millions, Murder and Men's REA

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Welcome to Beyond the Barrel, where every episode takes you deeper into the lives of those who serve on the frontlines. Hosted by two dynamic leaders— Kenny, a nationally recognized K9 interdiction officer, and Attorney Mike, a U.S. Army veteran and seasoned Patrol Supervisor—this podcast is where stories of bravery, sacrifice, and humanity unfold. Beyond the Barrel isn’t just about what happens on duty—it’s about what happens when the uniform comes off. Kenny and Mike sit down with first responders and military personnel to dive into the real stories behind their service, exploring the personal challenges and triumphs that have shaped their lives. But they don’t stop there—they reveal the human side, the passions and interests that make these heroes just like you and me. From veteran and cop to entrepreneur, law enforcement officers possess a wide range of skills that seamlessly translate to the private sector. Yet, we often underestimate our own potential, believing we lack the qualifications to pursue new opportunities. It’s time we give ourselves the credit we deserve and confidently explore what lies beyond the barrel. In this special mini-series of Beyond the Barrel—The Art of Interdiction—we sit down with Michael Stewart, a man whose career spans the full spectrum of criminal justice. From interdiction traffic stops yielding millions in drug and cash seizures to commanding homicide investigations and arguing in court as a licensed attorney, Stewart’s story is the blueprint for modern law enforcement done right. As Chief of Detectives for the Lake County Sheriff’s Department, Stewart has led some of Indiana’s most complex cases. We unpack record-breaking drug busts, his role in drafting Indiana’s first Red Flag Law affidavit, and how one marijuana traffic stop led to the federal indictment of a major drug figure and the solving of a homicide. With a foot in the courtroom and one on the pavement, Stewart brings a rare dual perspective—combining legal precision, street-level grit, and deep investigative insight. Whether you’re a cop, prosecutor, or just someone who wants to understand how justice actually works, this episode delivers the raw, unfiltered truth. This is The Art of Interdiction—where sharp minds, relentless work, and tactical street smarts collide. And as always on Beyond the Barrel, we pour it straight. No chaser. If you like what you hear, like, subscribe and follow the Beyond the Barrel podcast on Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/beyond_the_barrel_pod/⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Aug 8, 20251h 17m

Ep. 24: Wired for Justice: From NYPD Beat to AI Breakthroughs with Brian Hess

Welcome to Beyond the Barrel, where every episode takes you deeper into the lives of those who serve on the frontlines. Hosted by two dynamic leaders— Kenny, a nationally recognized K9 interdiction officer, and Attorney Mike, a U.S. Army veteran and seasoned Patrol Supervisor—this podcast is where stories of bravery, sacrifice, and humanity unfold. Beyond the Barrel isn’t just about what happens on duty—it’s about what happens when the uniform comes off. Kenny and Mike sit down with first responders and military personnel to dive into the real stories behind their service, exploring the personal challenges and triumphs that have shaped their lives. But they don’t stop there—they reveal the human side, the passions and interests that make these heroes just like you and me. From veteran and cop to entrepreneur, law enforcement officers possess a wide range of skills that seamlessly translate to the private sector. Yet, we often underestimate our own potential, believing we lack the qualifications to pursue new opportunities. It’s time we give ourselves the credit we deserve and confidently explore what lies beyond the barrel. In this episode of Beyond the Barrel, we sit down with Lieutenant Brian Hess, a seasoned law enforcement professional who began his career with the NYPD and has since carved out a unique path at the intersection of policing and technology. With deep roots in intelligence work, criminal investigations, and cyber security, Lt. Hess brings a rare blend of street experience and technical expertise to the conversation. Holding a Bachelor of Science in Computer Information Systems with a specialization in Criminal Justice from John Jay College (CUNY), Brian shares how his early days with the NYPD shaped his mission to modernize the profession from within. That mission now includes a groundbreaking AI-powered report writing software—designed by a cop, for cops—to streamline paperwork and give officers back the one thing they never have enough of: time. We explore the evolution of tech in law enforcement, the urgent need for innovation, and how Lt. Hess is leading the charge to future-proof the profession without losing sight of its core purpose. Special thanks to Ian Bick for generously opening his studio for this powerful conversation. If you like what you hear, like, subscribe and follow the Beyond the Barrel podcast on Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/beyond_the_barrel_pod/⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Aug 1, 20251h 9m

Beyond the Barrel: Mini Series The Art of Criminal Interdiction Ep. 7 Under the Hood: Chris Nicholas and the Hidden World of Criminal Interdiction

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Welcome to Beyond the Barrel, where every episode takes you deeper into the lives of those who serve on the frontlines. Hosted by two dynamic leaders— Kenny, a nationally recognized K9 interdiction officer, and Attorney Mike, a U.S. Army veteran and seasoned Patrol Supervisor—this podcast is where stories of bravery, sacrifice, and humanity unfold. Beyond the Barrel isn’t just about what happens on duty—it’s about what happens when the uniform comes off. Kenny and Mike sit down with first responders and military personnel to dive into the real stories behind their service, exploring the personal challenges and triumphs that have shaped their lives. But they don’t stop there—they reveal the human side, the passions and interests that make these heroes just like you and me. From veteran and cop to entrepreneur, law enforcement officers possess a wide range of skills that seamlessly translate to the private sector. Yet, we often underestimate our own potential, believing we lack the qualifications to pursue new opportunities. It’s time we give ourselves the credit we deserve and confidently explore what lies beyond the barrel. In this episode of Beyond The Barrel, we sit down with Chris Nicholas—a Kansas Highway Patrol veteran with nearly two decades of service and over 14 years of boots-on-the-ground interdiction experience. From working roadside stops to uncovering deeply concealed traps in commercial vehicles, Chris has seen it all. We unpack his evolution from auto body technician to Trooper, to master interdiction instructor, and Training Specialist for the DIAP program. With a career that spans elite interdiction units, the El Paso Intelligence Center, and national conferences like DIAP, EPIC, and NIC—Chris brings a tactical mindset forged from real-world experience and sharpened through teaching thousands of officers across the country. If you’ve ever wanted to understand the meticulous craft of identifying hidden compartments, commercial motor vehicle interdiction, and what separates a good interdiction officer from a great one—this is the episode you don’t want to miss. Grab a seat at the barrel and get ready to go under the hood with one of interdiction’s most respected minds If you like what you hear, like, subscribe and follow the Beyond the Barrel podcast on Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/beyond_the_barrel_pod/⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jul 22, 20251h 42m

Ep. 23: Shots Fired, Strength Found: Tyler Thoman’s Line of Duty Reckoning

Welcome to Beyond the Barrel, where every episode takes you deeper into the lives of those who serve on the frontlines. Hosted by two dynamic leaders— Kenny, a nationally recognized K9 interdiction officer, and Attorney Mike, a U.S. Army veteran and seasoned Patrol Supervisor—this podcast is where stories of bravery, sacrifice, and humanity unfold. Beyond the Barrel isn’t just about what happens on duty—it’s about what happens when the uniform comes off. Kenny and Mike sit down with first responders and military personnel to dive into the real stories behind their service, exploring the personal challenges and triumphs that have shaped their lives. But they don’t stop there—they reveal the human side, the passions and interests that make these heroes just like you and me. From veteran and cop to entrepreneur, law enforcement officers possess a wide range of skills that seamlessly translate to the private sector. Yet, we often underestimate our own potential, believing we lack the qualifications to pursue new opportunities. It’s time we give ourselves the credit we deserve and confidently explore what lies beyond the barrel. Beyond the Barrel is where we pour truths—straight, no chaser. And few stories cut deeper than Tyler Thoman’s. In this raw and riveting episode, we sit down with Tyler Thoman—former Brevard County deputy and the NRA’s 2021 Law Enforcement Officer of the Year. Tyler recounts the moment a routine traffic stop on I-95 erupted into a life-or-death gunfight, where his actions saved the life of a fellow deputy and stopped a violent career criminal in his tracks. But the firefight was only the beginning. Now serving in Tennessee, Tyler opens up about the silent aftermath—the delayed onset of PTSD, the emotional toll, and the dark path he nearly went down. Through brutal honesty and hard-won healing, Tyler shares what brought him back, what keeps him grounded, and why he refuses to be defined by a single moment. This is more than a war story. It’s a conversation about purpose, pain, and finding strength beyond the barrel. If you like what you hear, like, subscribe and follow the Beyond the Barrel podcast on Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/beyond_the_barrel_pod/⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jul 15, 20251h 56m

Ep. 22: Blood Money & Global Ties: The Cartel Threat No One's Talking About with Katarina Szulc

Welcome to Beyond the Barrel, where every episode takes you deeper into the lives of those who serve on the frontlines. Hosted by two dynamic leaders— Kenny, a nationally recognized K9 interdiction officer, and Attorney Mike, a U.S. Army veteran and seasoned Patrol Supervisor—this podcast is where stories of bravery, sacrifice, and humanity unfold. Beyond the Barrel isn’t just about what happens on duty—it’s about what happens when the uniform comes off. Kenny and Mike sit down with first responders and military personnel to dive into the real stories behind their service, exploring the personal challenges and triumphs that have shaped their lives. But they don’t stop there—they reveal the human side, the passions and interests that make these heroes just like you and me. From veteran and cop to entrepreneur, law enforcement officers possess a wide range of skills that seamlessly translate to the private sector. Yet, we often underestimate our own potential, believing we lack the qualifications to pursue new opportunities. It’s time we give ourselves the credit we deserve and confidently explore what lies beyond the barrel. Katarina Szulc is a Canadian freelance journalist based in Mexico who has built a reputation for pulling back the curtain on the darkest corners of cartel violence, political corruption, and transnational crime. A 2021 graduate of the BCIT Journalism program, her investigative reporting spans across platforms—from CBC and CityNews Vancouver to her own Substack newsletter—where she digs deep into Mexico’s gritty underworld. Szulc’s work doesn’t just spotlight the brutality of cartel operations—it exposes the evolving global alliances that make them even more dangerous. Her reporting has uncovered chilling links between Mexican cartels and adversarial states like China, India, Iran, and Venezuela. While the cartels remain financially driven, their partnerships with these nations reveal a far more sinister threat—one rooted in destabilization, not profit. It’s not just about drugs and dollars anymore—it’s about dismantling the very foundation of the United States from within. From covering community crises in Vancouver and Edmonton to tracking how cartel strategies are influencing U.S. border security and foreign policy, Szulc uses data, interviews, and immersive storytelling to bring a sharp edge to issues most won’t touch. Her voice is one of the few brave enough to go beyond the headlines—and now she brings that truth, straight with no chaser, to Beyond the Barrel. Follow Katarina Szulc and find out more information here: https://linktr.ee/katarinaszulc If you like what you hear, like, subscribe and follow the Beyond the Barrel podcast on Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/beyond_the_barrel_pod/⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jul 3, 202551 min

Ep. 21: From the North (Toronto, Canada): Dave Haynes on Leading with Grit, Unity, and Purpose

Welcome to Beyond the Barrel, where every episode takes you deeper into the lives of those who serve on the frontlines. Hosted by two dynamic leaders— Kenny, a nationally recognized K9 interdiction officer, and Attorney Mike, a U.S. Army veteran and seasoned Patrol Supervisor—this podcast is where stories of bravery, sacrifice, and humanity unfold. Beyond the Barrel isn’t just about what happens on duty—it’s about what happens when the uniform comes off. Kenny and Mike sit down with first responders and military personnel to dive into the real stories behind their service, exploring the personal challenges and triumphs that have shaped their lives. But they don’t stop there—they reveal the human side, the passions and interests that make these heroes just like you and me. From veteran and cop to entrepreneur, law enforcement officers possess a wide range of skills that seamlessly translate to the private sector. Yet, we often underestimate our own potential, believing we lack the qualifications to pursue new opportunities. It’s time we give ourselves the credit we deserve and confidently explore what lies beyond the barrel. In this episode of Beyond The Barrel, we head north of the border to sit down with Staff Sergeant Dave Haynes, a 22-year veteran of the Toronto Police Service. From working major crimes and fugitives to drastically reducing gun violence in one of the city’s most dangerous divisions, Dave has led from the front with purpose and integrity. We dive into his leadership philosophy—centered on unity, psychological safety, and officer development—as well as his passionate stance on supporting mental health in policing. Dave opens up about building teams that actually function, the value of staying open-minded, and what it takes to turn around violent communities through trust and strategic enforcement. This episode goes beyond tactics—it’s about culture, courage, and the kind of leadership we all wish we had. The views and opinions expressed in this conversation are solely those of the participants and do not reflect the official policies, positions, or ideologies of any active law enforcement agency. If you like what you hear, like, subscribe and follow the Beyond the Barrel podcast on Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/beyond_the_barrel_pod/⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jul 1, 20251h 13m

Beyond the Barrel: Mini Series The Art of Criminal Interdiction Ep. 6 with Sheriff Mike Lewis

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Welcome to Beyond the Barrel, where every episode takes you deeper into the lives of those who serve on the frontlines. Hosted by two dynamic leaders— Kenny, a nationally recognized K9 interdiction officer, and Attorney Mike, a U.S. Army veteran and seasoned Patrol Supervisor—this podcast is where stories of bravery, sacrifice, and humanity unfold. Beyond the Barrel isn’t just about what happens on duty—it’s about what happens when the uniform comes off. Kenny and Mike sit down with first responders and military personnel to dive into the real stories behind their service, exploring the personal challenges and triumphs that have shaped their lives. But they don’t stop there—they reveal the human side, the passions and interests that make these heroes just like you and me. From veteran and cop to entrepreneur, law enforcement officers possess a wide range of skills that seamlessly translate to the private sector. Yet, we often underestimate our own potential, believing we lack the qualifications to pursue new opportunities. It’s time we give ourselves the credit we deserve and confidently explore what lies beyond the barrel. In this episode of Beyond the Barrel Mini Series The Art of Interdiction, we sit down with Sheriff Mike Lewis, a nationally recognized expert in criminal interdiction and drug trafficking enforcement. With a career spanning over two decades in the Maryland State Police and five consecutive terms as Sheriff of Wicomico County, Sheriff Lewis has led the charge in taking down high-level narcotics operations across the U.S. and beyond. We discuss his pioneering work in highway interdiction, the evolution of drug smuggling techniques, and his role in major investigations—including operations in South America’s cartel-controlled jungles and Mexico’s Sinaloa Valley following the trial of El Chapo. Sheriff Lewis shares firsthand experiences from high-profile drug seizures, training law enforcement officers worldwide, and advising the White House on national security issues. From hidden compartments to international drug networks, this episode is a deep dive into the relentless fight against drug trafficking. Don’t miss it. If you like what you hear, like, subscribe and follow the Beyond the Barrel podcast on Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/beyond_the_barrel_pod/⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jun 22, 20251h 24m

Ep. 20: Holding Down the Fort: Tony Bustos on Faith, Family, and the Weight Behind the Barrel

Welcome to Beyond the Barrel, where every episode takes you deeper into the lives of those who serve on the frontlines. Hosted by two dynamic leaders— Kenny, a nationally recognized K9 interdiction officer, and Attorney Mike, a U.S. Army veteran and seasoned Patrol Supervisor—this podcast is where stories of bravery, sacrifice, and humanity unfold. Beyond the Barrel isn’t just about what happens on duty—it’s about what happens when the uniform comes off. Kenny and Mike sit down with first responders and military personnel to dive into the real stories behind their service, exploring the personal challenges and triumphs that have shaped their lives. But they don’t stop there—they reveal the human side, the passions and interests that make these heroes just like you and me. From veteran and cop to entrepreneur, law enforcement officers possess a wide range of skills that seamlessly translate to the private sector. Yet, we often underestimate our own potential, believing we lack the qualifications to pursue new opportunities. It’s time we give ourselves the credit we deserve and confidently explore what lies beyond the barrel. In this episode of Beyond the Barrel, we sit down with Tony Bustos—an incredible mom, devoted wife, and full-time homeschool teacher to four kids across four different grades. With honesty, strength, and a touch of humor, Tony shares what it’s really like to raise a family while her husband serves on the frontlines as a narcotics officer, SWAT team member and currently a detective. Tony opens up about the mental and emotional balancing act that comes with loving someone who wears the badge. From juggling homeschooling to coordinating sports schedules and Brazilian jiu-jitsu classes for all four of her kids, Tony gives us an honest, inspiring look at what it means to be the backbone of a law enforcement family. This is a raw and real conversation about sacrifice, structure, and the unshakable love that holds it all together. If you like what you hear, like, subscribe and follow the Beyond the Barrel podcast on Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/beyond_the_barrel_pod/⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jun 15, 202550 min

Bonus Ep: Trained to Survive, Punished for Surviving: The Salvatore Oldrati Story

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Welcome to Beyond the Barrel, where every episode takes you deeper into the lives of those who serve on the frontlines. Hosted by two dynamic leaders— Kenny, a nationally recognized K9 interdiction officer, and Attorney Mike, a U.S. Army veteran and seasoned Patrol Supervisor—this podcast is where stories of bravery, sacrifice, and humanity unfold. Beyond the Barrel isn’t just about what happens on duty—it’s about what happens when the uniform comes off. Kenny and Mike sit down with first responders and military personnel to dive into the real stories behind their service, exploring the personal challenges and triumphs that have shaped their lives. But they don’t stop there—they reveal the human side, the passions and interests that make these heroes just like you and me. From veteran and cop to entrepreneur, law enforcement officers possess a wide range of skills that seamlessly translate to the private sector. Yet, we often underestimate our own potential, believing we lack the qualifications to pursue new opportunities. It’s time we give ourselves the credit we deserve and confidently explore what lies beyond the barrel. In this gripping episode of Beyond The Barrel, we dive into the harrowing true story of Corporal Salvatore Oldrati—a decorated New Jersey officer who made a split-second decision to stop an armed threat during a high-risk call in 2021. Cleared by investigators and allowed to return to duty, Sal continued serving with honor… until nearly two years later, when he was blindsided by an indictment for reckless manslaughter. We unpack the facts that were ignored, the evidence withheld from the grand jury, and the emotional and financial toll this ongoing legal battle has taken on Sal, his pregnant wife, and their young daughter. With a toxicology report confirming the suspect was armed and under the influence of multiple drugs, and even the suspect’s ex-wife supporting Sal’s actions—why is this still happening? This is the story of a cop who did everything right… and is still paying the price. Tune in as we explore the intersection of justice, politics, and survival behind the barrel. Please donate and show your support here: https://donorbox.org/justice-for-corporal-salvatore-oldrati https://www.givesendgo.com/SupportforCplOldrati If you like what you hear, like, subscribe and follow the Beyond the Barrel podcast on Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/beyond_the_barrel_pod/⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jun 9, 20251h 42m