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Behind the Book Cover

Behind the Book Cover

You've heard the book publishing podcasts that give you tips for selling a lot of books and the ones that only interview world-famous authors.

Anna David

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Show overview

Behind the Book Cover has been publishing since 1970, and across the 56 years since has built a catalogue of 531 episodes, alongside 1 trailer or bonus episode. That works out to roughly 350 hours of audio in total. Releases follow a roughly quarterly cadence, with the show now in its 2nd season.

Episodes typically run thirty-five to sixty minutes — most land between 25 min and 50 min — though episode length varies meaningfully from one episode to the next. None of the episodes are flagged explicit by the publisher. It is catalogued as a EN-language Business show.

The show is actively publishing — the most recent episode landed 2 days ago, with 19 episodes already out so far this year. The busiest year was 2017, with 61 episodes published. Published by Anna David.

Episodes
531
Running
1970–2026 · 56y
Median length
38 min
Cadence
Quarterly-ish

From the publisher

You've heard the book publishing podcasts that give you tips for selling a lot of books and the ones that only interview world-famous authors. Now it's time for a book publishing show that reveals what actually goes on behind the cover. Hosted by New York Times bestselling author Anna David, Behind the Book Cover features interviews with traditionally published authors, independently published entrepreneurs who have used their books too seven figures to their bottom line to build their businesses and more. Anna David has had books published by HarperCollins and Simon & Schuster and is the founder of Legacy Launch Pad, David is the founder of Legacy Launch Pad Publishing, a boutique, founder-led hybrid book publisher that helps entrepreneurs turn expertise into authority-building books. In other words, she knows both sides—and isn't afraid to share it. Come find out what traditional publishers don't want you to know.

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He's Doubling Down on AI and IP While Everyone Else Is Panicking

May 12, 202641 min

She Got Her Sixth Book Deal Because of Her Podcast, Not Her Books

May 5, 202643 min

The Book Deal Was the Goal—Until the Industry Changed

Apr 28, 202653 min

He Said the Book Would Never Lead to a Business. It Became His Entire Second Career.

Apr 21, 202635 min

The Grief Memoir That Became a TV Pitch, a Sex Podcast and the Book Everyone Gives When Someone Dies

Apr 14, 202637 min

He Sold 87 Copies—and Made $2.5M

Apr 7, 202626 min

S2 Ep 11Why Your Book Is Never “Done”—And How It Can Keep Making Money for Years

If you're thinking about writing an authority building book, and I really hope you are, and you don't want to be counting pennies or checking your book sales all the time, you actually want a book that's going to change your life, I can tell you how. Just go to sevenfigurebooks.com. I'm not trying to capture your email or anything. You can just download this PDF that's going to tell you exactly how to turn an authority building book into revenue, speaking, authority, and no exaggeration, a whole new life. Brian Kurtz spent decades helping build Boardroom into a billion-dollar business through direct response marketing, which means he knows more about what actually makes people buy things than almost anyone I've ever talked to.So when he finally wrote his book Overdeliver, he didn't do what most authors do (cross his fingers, pray for a bestseller list, then move on). He treated the book like a business asset that would keep working for years, and that's exactly what it's done.What I wanted to get into with Brian is his idea of the "perpetual launch"—that a book is never done launching, which sounds exhausting until you hear how he actually does it. He used bonuses, podcasts and decades of relationship capital to turn one book into a long-term client engine, and he'll tell you straight up that capturing a reader's email matters more than any Amazon ranking ever will.He also wrote for nearly a decade before publishing, which gave him something most authors skip straight past: an actual voice.And then there's the part of this conversation that puts everything else in perspective. The day before his book launch, Brian had a near-fatal stroke. We talk about what that did to how he thinks about legacy and why, after something like that, the long game stops being a strategy and starts being the only thing that makes sense.In this episode:What the "perpetual launch" means in practice (and why most authors quit too early)Why Brian says capturing an email is worth more than an Amazon rankingHow decades of relationship capital turned one book into a multi-million-dollar assetThe near-fatal stroke that happened the day before his launch — and how it changed everythingWhy writing for years before publishing is the real shortcutWant to find out more about my hybrid book publishing company, Legacy Launch Pad? Click here. Want to discover how entrepreneurs get seven-figure returns on their authority-building books? Click here. Want to apply to work with us? Here's where you go.And if you just want to know more about me, visit my website or connect with me on LinkedIn or Instagram.Remember, if there's anyone in your life whose wisdom you deeply admire, or who you know could be considered an authority in their field if they were better known, share this show with them.

Mar 31, 202647 min

S2 Ep 10What 50 Years in the Business Taught Him—And Why He Finally Wrote the Book About It

If you're thinking about writing an authority building book, and I really hope you are, and you don't want to be counting pennies or checking your book sales all the time, you actually want a book that's going to change your life, I can tell you how. Just go to sevenfigurebooks.com. I'm not trying to capture your email or anything. You can just download this PDF that's going to tell you exactly how to turn an authority building book into revenue, speaking, authority, and no exaggeration, a whole new life. Richard Lawson has spent 50+ years in Hollywood acting, teaching and mentoring people like George Clooney and Michelle Pfeiffer, so writing a book could have been a victory lap—a way to package the lessons and put a bow on everything.That's not what happened. Writing The Artist's Roadmap: Navigating Your Career in SHOW Business didn't just organize what Richard already knew. It woke something up. It led to a Substack, a memoir in progress, a series of children's books and an entirely new creative chapter that he wasn't expecting at this stage of his life.What I wanted to get into with Richard is how that happened—how the process of writing the book became the thing that renewed him, not just the product of a long career. He tells me about a moment during a college musical in 1969 that set everything in motion (and why he still feels guided by that same force today). He talks about surviving an actual plane crash and what that did to his relationship with intuition. And he explains the dialogue between his two inner voices—his spiritual guide "Richard" and his creative alter ego "Tricky Dick"—which is not the kind of thing you expect from a guy who's spent five decades in the business, and that's exactly why it's interesting.In this episode:The 1969 revelation during a college musical that he says still drives him todayHow surviving a plane crash reshaped how he trusts his own instincts"Richard" vs. "Tricky Dick"—the two inner voices and what they taught him about creativityHis three-part formula for show business success: politics, personality and craftWhy the book led to a Substack, a memoir, children's books and an entire second creative wave he didn't planWhat he means by "dream whisperer" (and how he helps people find their way back to their purpose)Want to find out more about my hybrid book publishing company, Legacy Launch Pad? Click here. Want to discover how entrepreneurs get seven-figure returns on their authority-building books? Click here. Want to apply to work with us? Here's where you go.And if you just want to know more about me, visit my website or connect with me on LinkedIn or Instagram.Remember, if there's anyone in your life whose wisdom you deeply admire, or who you know could be considered an authority in their field if they were better known, share this show with them.

Mar 24, 202656 min

S2 Ep 9He Raised His Prices 60x After Writing a Book

If you're thinking about writing an authority building book, and I really hope you are, and you don't want to be counting pennies or checking your book sales all the time, you actually want a book that's going to change your life, I can tell you how. Just go to sevenfigurebooks.com. I'm not trying to capture your email or anything. You can just download this PDF that's going to tell you exactly how to turn an authority building book into revenue, speaking, authority, and no exaggeration, a whole new life. Justin Breen used to charge $500 for his PR services. After writing his first book, he started charging $30,000.That's not a typo, and it's not because the book sold a million copies—it's because the book made him the person clients wanted to hire at that price.Justin's path to authorship started when his journalism salary got cut in half and he cold-contacted 5,000 people to find his first five clients. He documented that whole ride in Epic Life, and it led to The Epic F.I.T. Network, speaking engagements and media opportunities that didn't exist before the book.But what I really wanted to talk about is what happened with his second book, Epic Journey, because it got weird in the best way. Justin describes the writing process as channeling divine inspiration while literally staring at the sun on his daily runs, which I know sounds like something you'd scroll past—but the manuscript had such an impact on early readers that one of them got a tattoo inspired by it. The book led to what he calls a "complete ego death," an amicable divorce, a total life overhaul and a new AI music company called Corvia.AI. He's currently not sure where he's going to live next, which is either terrifying or the most honest thing an entrepreneur has ever admitted on a podcast.We also get into why he thinks not everyone should write their own book (which is a bold thing to say on this particular podcast) and his potential collaboration with Melissa Bernstein of Melissa & Doug Toys.In this episode:How writing a book took him from $500 to $30,000 per clientThe 5,000 cold contacts that launched his entire businessWhy Epic Journey led to an ego death, a divorce and a company he didn't planThe early reader who got a tattoo inspired by the manuscriptWhy he says not everyone should write their own book (and what to do instead)The potential Melissa Bernstein (Melissa & Doug) collaborationWant to find out more about my hybrid book publishing company, Legacy Launch Pad? Click here. Want to discover how entrepreneurs get seven-figure returns on their authority-building books? Click here. Want to apply to work with us? Here's where you go.And if you just want to know more about me, visit my website or connect with me on LinkedIn or Instagram.Remember, if there's anyone in your life whose wisdom you deeply admire, or who you know could be considered an authority in their field if they were better known, share this show with them.

Mar 17, 202633 min

S2 Ep 8The Book Launch That Became a Movement (Billboards, Celebrities and Sold-Out Events)

If you're thinking about writing an authority building book, and I really hope you are, and you don't want to be counting pennies or checking your book sales all the time, you actually want a book that's going to change your life, I can tell you how. Just go to sevenfigurebooks.com. I'm not trying to capture your email or anything. You can just download this PDF that's going to tell you exactly how to turn an authority building book into revenue, speaking, authority, and no exaggeration, a whole new life. Christos Garkinos went from being a lonely gay Greek kid in Detroit to running marketing for Virgin Megastores, launching fashion lines on HSN and becoming Bravo's "Robin Hood of Fashion"—and then lost nearly all of it to addiction, financial collapse and grief.So he wrote a memoir called Covet the Comeback and launched it like a rock tour.What I wanted to talk to Christos about is the launch, because it's one of the most ambitious rollouts I've seen from any author, and he did it entirely on his own terms. Celebrity-filled dinners, sold-out events across the country and a billboard in LA that ran for five months—positioned directly above an ATM he used during his darkest days. That's not a marketing stunt. That's a man staring down his own story from a billboard.But the launch isn't actually the most interesting part of this conversation. Christos gets into what it felt like when people he hadn't spoken to in years started reaching out after reading the book—people who had written him off, people who barely knew him, people who suddenly understood something about him they never had before. He talks about sobriety, ego and surrender with a kind of honesty that you don't usually hear from someone whose instinct is to produce a show. And he gets into how the book didn't just change his public image. It changed his business, his relationships and the way he thinks about what he's actually building.In this episode:The five-month LA billboard placed directly above an ATM from his worst daysWhy he refused a traditional book launch and built a rollout that looked more like a concert tourWhat it felt like when people who'd written him off started reaching out after reading the bookHow sobriety reshaped his instincts, leadership and creativityThe moment his community turned his story into their ownWant to find out more about my hybrid book publishing company, Legacy Launch Pad? Click here. Want to discover how entrepreneurs get seven-figure returns on their authority-building books? Click here. Want to apply to work with us? Here's where you go.And if you just want to know more about me, visit my website or connect with me on LinkedIn or Instagram.Remember, if there's anyone in your life whose wisdom you deeply admire, or who you know could be considered an authority in their field if they were better known, share this show with them.

Mar 10, 202639 min

S2 Ep 7He Lost Everything—Then Wrote the Book That Rebuilt His Authority

If you're thinking about writing an authority building book, and I really hope you are, and you don't want to be counting pennies or checking your book sales all the time, you actually want a book that's going to change your life, I can tell you how. Just go to sevenfigurebooks.com. I'm not trying to capture your email or anything. You can just download this PDF that's going to tell you exactly how to turn an authority building book into revenue, speaking, authority, and no exaggeration, a whole new life. Walter Clarke lost his investment management firm after a catastrophic business failure involving regulatory action and bad advice, and then did the thing most people in finance would never do: he wrote a book about it.The Big Risk told the whole story—the painful parts, the parts that could have stayed buried—and it turned what could have been a career-ending chapter into the reason people started hiring him. Writing the book transformed shame into authority because he was teaching from experience, not theory, and that distinction is the difference between a consultant people tolerate and one they actually trust.What I wanted to get into with Walter is what happened next, because he didn't stop there. He wrote a second book, 401Kid, built around an idea that sounds simple until you think about it: financial education should start at birth, not adulthood. Walter has spent 30+ years advising wealthy families, and he's watched money quietly destroy relationships, identity and mental health when people aren't prepared for it. He says you lose your kids' attention around age 11, which means every parent who's waiting until their teenager "is old enough" to talk about money has already missed the window.We also get into why he thinks sudden wealth is more dangerous than not having money at all and why avoiding the "entitlement" conversation with your kids does far more harm than just having it.In this episode:How losing his firm led to writing the book that rebuilt his authorityWhy sudden wealth is more dangerous than lack of moneyThe reason financial education has to start before age 11 (and what happens when it doesn't)How The Big Risk turned a career-ending story into a business assetWhy 401Kid clicked as a title—and as a philosophyWant to find out more about my hybrid book publishing company, Legacy Launch Pad? Click here. Want to discover how entrepreneurs get seven-figure returns on their authority-building books? Click here. Want to apply to work with us? Here's where you go.And if you just want to know more about me, visit my website or connect with me on LinkedIn or Instagram.Remember, if there's anyone in your life whose wisdom you deeply admire, or who you know could be considered an authority in their field if they were better known, share this show with them.

Mar 3, 202641 min

S2 Ep 6He Spent Decades Behind the Scenes on ER and The West Wing—His Book at 78 Put Him in Front

If you're thinking about writing an authority building book, and I really hope you are, and you don't want to be counting pennies or checking your book sales all the time, you actually want a book that's going to change your life, I can tell you how. Just go to sevenfigurebooks.com. I'm not trying to capture your email or anything. You can just download this PDF that's going to tell you exactly how to turn an authority building book into revenue, speaking, authority, and no exaggeration, a whole new life. When we published Right for the Role, I figured John would sell a few books, make some actors cry and call it a day. I was wrong.John is a four-time Emmy-winning casting director who spent decades casting ER, The West Wing and Shameless, and his memoir didn't just tell that story—it completely rewired his creative life at 78. The book sparked a podcast, packed acting schools, landed in the Studio City Barnes & Noble window and somehow made him Instagram-famous (his words, not mine). He's now directing plays in New York and reconnecting with collaborators he hadn't spoken to in years.What I wanted to talk to John about is what it's like to spend your entire career shaping other people's performances and then, in your late seventies, step into the spotlight yourself for the first time. He gets into what it took to drop the privacy he'd protected for decades, what it's like to relive your life with a co-writer on Zoom and why the Smoke House book signing turned into something closer to an LA industry reunion than a reading. He also swears he "discovered no one," which—if you know anything about the casts of ER or The West Wing—is one of the more generous lies I've heard on this podcast.The thing he said that stuck with me: the book didn't give him a new life. It gave him his old one back.In this episode:How Right for the Role turned into a podcast, a tour and a creative second act at 78The Smoke House signing that became an industry reunionWhy he insists he "discovered no one" (he's being modest)What it's like to publish your first book in your seventies and go viral for itWhy he says the book gave him his old life back, not a new oneWant to find out more about my hybrid book publishing company, Legacy Launch Pad? Click here. Want to discover how entrepreneurs get seven-figure returns on their authority-building books? Click here. Want to apply to work with us? Here's where you go.And if you just want to know more about me, visit my website or connect with me on LinkedIn or Instagram.Remember, if there's anyone in your life whose wisdom you deeply admire, or who you know could be considered an authority in their field if they were better known, share this show with them.

Feb 24, 202633 min

S2 Ep 5How One Book Turned Into $1M (And Why Most Don’t)

If you're thinking about writing an authority building book, and I really hope you are, and you don't want to be counting pennies or checking your book sales all the time, you actually want a book that's going to change your life, I can tell you how. Just go to sevenfigurebooks.com. I'm not trying to capture your email or anything. You can just download this PDF that's going to tell you exactly how to turn an authority building book into revenue, speaking, authority, and no exaggeration, a whole new life. Dan Nicholson is just the founder and CEO of Nth Degree CPAs.He’s also one of my favorite Legacy Launch Pad clients.One of the reasons for this favoritism is that I had the privilege of watching him go from being just another CPA to becoming the Wall Street Journal and USA Today bestselling author of Rigging the Game. As a result of the book, he now commands up to $20,000 a speaking gig and has generated over seven figures in revenue from the ripple effects of authorship.How did he do it? Well, he had a system—and you could say he rigged it.First, he pre-sold hundreds of copies to his network before the manuscript was even complete, ensuring the project would be profitable before it launched. Then he started circulating the book with a focus on speaking and watched his speaking fees skyrocket. Masterminds and conferences have even built entire events around his book!Now prospects arrive at his CPA firm already pre-sold on hiring them, referrals flow in at record levels and his close rates have jumped significantly—even as he raised his prices by 30%. And that’s not all: thanks to his book, he's also doubled his media appearances, landed more podcast interviews and attracted new clients not only to Nth Degree CPAs but for his other ventures, including Certainty U and Certainty News.Listen in to find out why Dan’s system rigging leaves me in awe.Episode Highlights:How Dan pre-sold his book and turned it into a seven-figure revenue generatorThe challenges of writing authentically and why ghostwriters didn’t work for himWhy Rigging the Game resonates with entrepreneurs tired of cookie-cutter adviceHow speaking gigs, referrals and media appearances multiplied after publicationThe real difference between relationship-based and transactional businesses and how books impact eachThe systems Dan created to get 80% of his early readers to leave Amazon reviewsWhy giving away free copies can sometimes be more valuable than selling themThe philosophy of eliminating downside risk to guarantee upsideKey Takeaways:A book is not a lottery ticket—it’s a system and success requires planningReviews not vanity bulk sales are the most powerful long-term marketingFor service-based businesses credibility from a book allows you to raise rates and close more clientsMedia exposure and speaking opportunities don’t happen by accident—you must design the outcomesWant to find out more about my hybrid book publishing company, Legacy Launch Pad? Click here. Want to discover how entrepreneurs get seven-figure returns on their authority-building books? Click here. Want to apply to work with us? Here's where you go.And if you just want to know more about me, visit my website or connect with me on LinkedIn or Instagram.Remember, if there's anyone in your life whose wisdom you deeply admire, or who you know could be considered an authority in their field if they were better known, share this show with them.

Feb 17, 202630 min

S2 Ep 4The Book That Led to a TEDx Talk—and 350,000 Views

If you're thinking about writing an authority building book, and I really hope you are, and you don't want to be counting pennies or checking your book sales all the time, you actually want a book that's going to change your life, I can tell you how. Just go to sevenfigurebooks.com. I'm not trying to capture your email or anything. You can just download this PDF that's going to tell you exactly how to turn an authority building book into revenue, speaking, authority, and no exaggeration, a whole new life. I had a front-row seat to Bonnie Habyan’s transformation. A seasoned CMO with over 20 years in financial services, Bonnie wrote The World According to Bess—a book about her mother's wisdom that we released on her mom's 91st birthday, just months before she passed.In our conversation, Bonnie walks me through all that the book opened up for her: she landed a TEDx talk that now has 350,000+ views, launched her podcast This Is How SHE Did It and became a keynote speaker on resilience and personal brand power. We dive into the unexpected wins—Barnes & Noble book signings, knowing her book is available at Target and having strangers sharing intimate stories about their own mothers after hearing her speak. She also reveals how the writing process helped her understand her relationship with her mom better. In the end, she explains how the book scratched an itch that no CMO title ever could—giving her something authentically hers that will outlive her while also teaching her that her superpower is tenacity.She opens up about being terrified at first—worried about her employer's reaction, about being vulnerable, about putting herself out there. But as she explains, pushing through that fear brought unquantifiable rewards: confidence, legacy and the fulfillment of bucket-list dreams she'd had since childhood.Topics Discussed:Why book sales don't matter: How the real value comes from credibility, platform, and opportunities—not revenue from copies soldFrom book to TEDx stage: How The World According to Bess became the foundation for Bonnie's TEDx talk, which garnered 350,000+ views and created deep connections with audiencesThe power of pre-launch marketing: Building a reader group to generate reviews before publication day, ensuring the book launches with social proof that stays on Amazon foreverOvercoming fear and self-doubt: Bonnie's journey from worrying about her employer's reaction and being vulnerable to embracing confidence and not caring about naysayersThe book as connection machine: How strangers approached Bonnie after her TEDx talk, sharing intimate stories about their own mothers and revealing the impact of her workUnderstanding family through writing: How the process of writing the book gave Bonnie deeper insight into her mother's love language, upbringing and their relationshipDiscovering your superpower: How the book-writing process revealed that Bonnie's superpower is tenacity and persistenceThe gift that keeps giving: Unexpected moments like seeing the book at Target, doing book club talks and receiving messages from readers on the beachFinding your tribe: The importance of surrounding yourself with supporters rather than naysayers during the creative processLegacy over career advancement: Why the book's impact on Bonnie's personal fulfillment and legacy mattered more than advancing her CMO careerVulnerability and authenticity: Putting personal stories into the world and learning to care less about criticismThe book cover moment: How seeing the final cover design was the "aha" moment that brought everything togetherBucket list achievements: Checking off childhood dreams of writing a book, creating a podcast and delivering a TED talk—all stemming from the book

Feb 10, 202634 min

S2 Ep 3The Book That Started Legacy Launch Pad—and a Foundation That's Sent 200+ People to Treatment

If you're thinking about writing an authority building book, and I really hope you are, and you don't want to be counting pennies or checking your book sales all the time, you actually want a book that's going to change your life, I can tell you how. Just go to sevenfigurebooks.com. I'm not trying to capture your email or anything. You can just download this PDF that's going to tell you exactly how to turn an authority building book into revenue, speaking, authority, and no exaggeration, a whole new life. Aiming High was the first book I ever published, and it's the reason Legacy Launch Pad exists. So I'm biased. But the story of what this book did is worth telling regardless.Darren Prince was one of the most successful sports and celebrity agents in the country—Magic Johnson, Muhammad Ali, Charlie Sheen—and he was also quietly battling an addiction that nearly killed him. When we started working together, he wanted to write about his career. I told him his addiction was the real story. He didn't love hearing that, but he listened.He released the book on the anniversary of Ali and Frazier's "Thrilla in Manila" fight (because of course he did—the man is an agent to his core). Magic Johnson wrote the foreword. A CNN interview with Chris Cuomo launched a global media tour that led to Tucker Carlson, Dr. Oz, Fox & Friends and Jay Shetty's On Purpose podcast. A six-figure spokesperson deal came in, and instead of keeping the money, Darren used it to start the Aiming High Foundation, which has now sent over 200 people to treatment.What I wanted to get into with Darren is all of it—the stuff that makes us laugh and the stuff that makes us a little teary. How his father's death and a conversation with Magic Johnson pushed him to finally tell the truth. How the book revitalized his agency in ways he didn't expect. And how a memoir about hitting bottom turned into a foundation, a speaking career and a life that actually looks like the one he was pretending to have before.In this episode:Why I told Darren his addiction—not his celebrity roster—was the real bookThe behind-the-scenes story of Magic Johnson writing the forewordHow a CNN interview launched a global media tourThe six-figure spokesperson deal he turned into a foundation that's sent 200+ people to treatmentWhy Aiming High was the first book I published and the reason I started Legacy Launch PadWant to find out more about my hybrid book publishing company, Legacy Launch Pad? Click here. Want to discover how entrepreneurs get seven-figure returns on their authority-building books? Click here. Want to apply to work with us? Here's where you go.And if you just want to know more about me, visit my website or connect with me on LinkedIn or Instagram.Remember, if there's anyone in your life whose wisdom you deeply admire, or who you know could be considered an authority in their field if they were better known, share this show with them.

Feb 3, 202639 min

S2 Ep 2One Book → TV Show, Harvard Role and a 61-City Tour

If you're thinking about writing an authority building book, and I really hope you are, and you don't want to be counting pennies or checking your book sales all the time, you actually want a book that's going to change your life, I can tell you how. Just go to sevenfigurebooks.com. I'm not trying to capture your email or anything. You can just download this PDF that's going to tell you exactly how to turn an authority building book into revenue, speaking, authority, and no exaggeration, a whole new life. Matt George isn't just a Harvard Business School executive leadership coach.He's also one of my favorite Legacy Launch Pad clients. Yes, I say that a lot but I only have my favorites on this show.I've had the privilege of watching Matt go from being a longtime nonprofit CEO to becoming a three-time #1 bestselling author who leveraged his book into a multimillion-dollar portfolio of speaking, consulting, media and coaching opportunities. As a result of his books, he now works at Harvard Business School, hosted his own prime-time TV show for four years and has generated over a million dollars in revenue from the ripple effects of authorship.How did he do it? Well, he treated the book we published, Non-Profit Game Plan, like a "business card for life"—he never stopped networking with it.First, he carried copies everywhere, giving them out on flights, at conferences and to nonprofits across the country. He even packed a full suitcase with 50-60 books for a John Maxwell conference and refused to bring a single one home. Then he embarked on an epic 61-city, 67-day book tour across America, combining media appearances with grassroots nonprofit visits where he literally saw his book help save a young girl's life. (He and I also got to meet for a cup of hot chocolate when his tour took him to LA.)Today, his media appearances have multiplied 10-15x, his consulting fees have skyrocketed and his speaking invitations stretch from Ivy League alumni clubs to global conferences. And that's not all: thanks to his book, Matt was able to leave his 30-year nonprofit career, land a coveted position at Harvard Business School (coaching C-suite executives from around the world) and launch his own company.Listen in to find out why Matt's "business card for life" strategy shows why a book truly is the world’s best business card.Episode Highlights:How Matt turned his book into the catalyst for a career reinvention at Harvard Business SchoolThe intentional strategy of carrying and giving away books to build brand and revenueWhy books outperform business cards for authority and credibilityHow Business Forward and other media opportunities emerged directly from authorshipThe 61-city book tour that combined grassroots impact with national visibilityWhy reviews and relationships matter more than bulk salesHow Matt monetized his book into consulting, speaking and global coaching streamsKey Takeaways:A book is a lifelong business card when used strategicallyReviews, not sales rankings, drive long-term credibilitySpeaking, consulting, and media come from intentional design, not accidentAuthorship creates authority, self-confidence and new revenue streamsThe impact of a book goes beyond business—it can literally change lives

Jan 27, 202635 min

S2 Ep 1The Book Party That Changed Everything

If you're thinking about writing an authority building book, and I really hope you are, and you don't want to be counting pennies or checking your book sales all the time, you actually want a book that's going to change your life, I can tell you how. Just go to sevenfigurebooks.com. I'm not trying to capture your email or anything. You can just download this PDF that's going to tell you exactly how to turn an authority building book into revenue, speaking, authority, and no exaggeration, a whole new life. Calvin Bagley spent his childhood dodging the school bus and adulthood building business empires. The founder of multiple eight-figure Medicare companies and a self-proclaimed “big fish in a very specific pond,” Calvin went from growing up in rural isolation with nine siblings and no formal schooling to becoming one of the most respected names in his industry.His memoir Hiding from the School Bus doesn’t teach you how to scale a business—it shows you how to survive one hell of a childhood and still come out kind, successful and grateful.In this episode, Calvin and I cover everything from family feuds to Kirkus raves to what it’s like when people you barely know suddenly know all your darkest secrets. He talks about writing 1,000 pages during a bout of shingles (because of course he did), taking his co-writer back to the “scene of the crime” to really feel the trauma and throwing a Vegas book launch complete with goats, carrot cake and cocktails named after his childhood pain.It’s equal parts therapy session, comeback story and gratitude circle. Calvin somehow manages to turn abuse, neglect and educational deprivation into punchlines—and then pivots to heartfelt lessons on self-acceptance, fatherhood and what it means to finally stop running from your past.Episode HighlightsWhat happens when your mom doesn’t know you wrote a memoirHow a shingles outbreak became a literary blessing (seriously)The Vegas book party that doubled as emotional closureHow radical honesty can make your business strongerWhat happens when you tell your story and the world actually listens

Jan 20, 202644 min

S1 Ep 9Ethlie Ann Vare on Going From Gatekeepers to Algorithms

If you're thinking about writing an authority building book, and I really hope you are, and you don't want to be counting pennies or checking your book sales all the time, you actually want a book that's going to change your life, I can tell you how. Just go to sevenfigurebooks.com. I'm not trying to capture your email or anything. You can just download this PDF that's going to tell you exactly how to turn an authority building book into revenue, speaking, authority, and no exaggeration, a whole new life. Ethlie Ann Vare has lived through every incarnation of the media machine—from the era when editors and agents were true gatekeepers to today’s age of algorithms and the “wisdom of the crowd.” A journalist, TV writer and author, Vare built a career on talent, timing and serendipity. She went from covering rock shows in 1980s Los Angeles to penning biographies of Stevie Nicks and Ozzy Osbourne then spent 15 years writing for television shows like Renegade, Silk Stalkings, Andromeda and CSI.In this episode, Vare reflects on how the publishing world she once knew—where publicists flew authors to The Today Show and books stayed in print for decades—has vanished, replaced by a firehose of content and a marketplace where visibility often trumps talent. She laments that authors are now the product, forced to become their own marketers and brands while readers drown in choice.A savvy observer of both life and the publishing industry, Vare has proven that good work finds its way. Her New York Times–noted Mothers of Invention and later Love Addict: Sex, Romance and Other Dangerous Drugs (which began as a Tumblr called Affection Deficit Disorder) both emerged from two respective subjects she cared deeply about—women inventors and the psychology of love addiction. Now through her Substack of the same name ,she continues to write “for fun and for free,” offering hard-earned wisdom without worrying about the clicks or sales.Episode Highlights:Ethlie recounts her early days in rock journalism where being “good and lucky” opened doors to Billboard, Rock Magazine and national TV appearances.The shift from gatekeepers to algorithms: how the fall of traditional publishing replaced discernment with popularity contests.Behind the making of her hit book Mothers of Invention and why its success led to a national lecture tour and lasting influence.Her perspective on today’s “firehose of content,” author branding and the exhaustion of self-promotion.The origin of Love Addict, her dive into sex and love addiction and how it evolved from personal exploration to public service.Reflections on age, authenticity and the strange liberation of being a “digital immigrant” in a youth-driven culture.Key Takeaways:The creative industry has shifted from talent being discovered to visibility being demanded.Writing remains a calling worth pursuing—for love not for money.Democratization has come at a cost: fewer filters more noise.The real reward of authorship isn’t fame but connection and survival through reinvention.

Jan 13, 202646 min

S1 Ep 8Jamie Rose on Finding True Fulfillment After Traditional Publishing's Broken Promises

If you're thinking about writing an authority building book, and I really hope you are, and you don't want to be counting pennies or checking your book sales all the time, you actually want a book that's going to change your life, I can tell you how. Just go to sevenfigurebooks.com. I'm not trying to capture your email or anything. You can just download this PDF that's going to tell you exactly how to turn an authority building book into revenue, speaking, authority, and no exaggeration, a whole new life. Jamie Rose is proof that reinvention can be a superpower. After decades as a working actress, she did what most in Hollywood never dare: she pivoted.First came writing. She landed a Penguin deal for her memoir Shut Up and Dance, diving headfirst into the brutal world of publishing. Then came coaching, where she transformed her 37 years of training with psychiatrist Phil Stutz (of The Tools and Jonah Hill’s Netflix doc Stutz) into a career helping others unlock their potential.Now she’s tackling her boldest project yet: Facing Madame X: An Initiation into Feminine Power (out March 2026). Part memoir, part self-help, the book distills Stutz’s groundbreaking tools through Jamie’s uniquely female perspective, weaving hard-won lessons of resilience, humor and creativity.Jamie had to figure out the system for herself. She rode the highs (landing a book deal with a major publisher) and the lows (refreshing Amazon rankings until she nearly lost her mind). She discovered that success wasn’t about fame or money alone—it was about emotional “f-you money,” joy in the process and leaving a legacy that makes people weep (in the best way).Episode HighlightsJamie’s leap from Hollywood (Falcon Crest, The Tonight Show) to published author and coachThe rollercoaster of her first book Shut Up and Dance—Penguin deal, PR mishaps, Amazon obsessionLessons from 37 years with mentor Phil Stutz, now shaping her new book Facing Madame X (2026)Redefining “f-you money” as emotional freedom, not just financial securityWhy reinvention, resilience, and joy matter more than chasing external validationKey TakeawaysTraditional publishing offers prestige but little control—authors must drive their own successSetbacks can spark reinvention and deeper purposeMentorship and long-term practice transform both work and lifeEmotional wealth and detachment create true powerBooks are about legacy and impact, not just sales numbers

Jan 6, 202643 min

S1 Ep 7Mark Ebner on How to Survive the Death of Publishing (and Still Tell the Truth)

If you're thinking about writing an authority building book, and I really hope you are, and you don't want to be counting pennies or checking your book sales all the time, you actually want a book that's going to change your life, I can tell you how. Just go to sevenfigurebooks.com. I'm not trying to capture your email or anything. You can just download this PDF that's going to tell you exactly how to turn an authority building book into revenue, speaking, authority, and no exaggeration, a whole new life. Mark Ebner has lived every journalist’s dream. He’s a New York Times bestselling author, Hollywood insider and the guy behind some of the most notorious exposés in entertainment history. But behind the bylines and book deals is a story about an industry that chews up even its most fearless voices—and a writer who found a way to keep telling the truth anyway.In this conversation, Mark and I talk about everything the publishing world doesn’t want you to know—from missing royalty checks and botched releases to what happens when AI starts scraping your life’s work. He opens up about his unlikely friendship with Andrew Breitbart, the chaos of the book business and how he went from bestselling author to private investigator—while somehow staying one of the funniest, most unflinchingly honest people I’ve ever met.Episode HighlightsThe truth about what it really means to hit the New York Times list (and why it doesn’t make you rich)How HarperCollins mishandled his biggest book deal—and what it taught him about the industry’s dysfunctionThe unexpected camaraderie between a radical leftist and a far-right pundit and how it produced Hollywood, InterruptedWhy bookstores literally killed one of his bestsellers by shelving it in the wrong sectionThe burnout and betrayal that pushed him to leave journalism and launch a private investigation firmHis take on AI, intellectual theft and the future (or end) of nonfiction writingThe celebrity scandals, lawsuits and cult investigations that defined his career—and why he’s done telling other people’s storiesThe strange parallels between chasing leads as a PI and chasing truth as a reporterThe book he still wants to write—and why he might call it Dirtbag

Dec 30, 202547 min
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