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This week, Kate and (esteemed author/podcaster/friend) Nora McInerny answer a few Katelilah voicemails in between meandering conversations about spatial awareness, nostalgia, White Lotus, childhood friendships, Jersey Mikes, modern teenagers, the experience of trying on shoes in a store, and so much more! Enjoy! Order Kate's NYT Bestselling book, One in a Millennial here! Text or leave a voicemail for Kate at 775-HEY-BETH! For April, Amika is giving the Beths a one-time use code for 15% off your first order through the end of April. Just go to loveamika.com/bethereinfive and use code BETHEREINFIVE at checkout.

This week, Sami Sage is back on the podcast (friend and co-founder of Betches Media), and she and Kate meander through a variety of topics, like searching for purpose in your 20s, Hermes/Birkin appointment culture, the democracy debacle, their fav designer/mid-range handbags, and Sami's go-to leather influencer. After Sami gives some hot takes about The Row, toward the end, they recap the #1 show on Netflix right now called Adolescence, and they chat about how online radicalization affects young men and the cultural factors that contribute to toxic masculinity. Enjoy! Order Kate's NYT Bestselling book, One in a Millennial here (now out in paperback!!) Text or leave a voicemail for Kate at 775-HEY-BETH! Because amika loves Be There in Five listeners as much as we love them, they're giving you a one-time use code for 20% off your first order through the end of March. Just go to loveamika.com/bethereinfive, code BETHEREINFIVE to get 20% off your first order through March 31st! To get started, just go to Apostrophe.com/BETHEREINFIVE and click get Started, then use our code BETHEREINFIVE at sign up and you'll get your first visit for only five dollars! Thank you Apostrophe for sponsoring this episode. Luxury Shouldn't Be Out of Reach. Visit CozyEarth.com and use my exclusive code BETHEREINFIVE for 40% off best-selling sheets, towels, pajamas, and more. Take advantage of this exclusive offer: For a limited time get 40% off your first box PLUS get a free item in every box for life. Go to Hungryroot.com/bethereinfive to get 40% off your first box and a free item of your choice for life. Build your vacation-ready wardrobe from the ground up. Shop the new summer collection and receive 20% off your purchase with the code BETHEREINFIVE at marcfisherfootwear.com. Nuuly is a great value at $98 a month for any 6 styles, but right now you can get $28 off your first month of Nuuly when you sign up with the code BETHEREINFIVE. Just go to Nuuly.com/BETHEREINFIVE Say goodnight to wrinkles and wake up to visibly firmer, smoother, naturally radiant skin with OSEA's new Dream Night Serum. And right now, we have a special offer just for our listeners! Get 10% off your first order sitewide with code BETHEREINFIVE at OSEAMalibu.com.

This week, we're deep diving PepsiCo's $1.95 billion acquisition of the prebiotic soda brand Poppi, discussing the shift towards health-conscious beverages and their potentially misleading claims, and digging into influencer-adjacent beverage drama like cheater brands, "vending machine gate" and rumors about if the investments of Alex Cooper and Alix Earle in beverage companies have something to do with their public falling out (and Alix being "dropped" from the Unwell network). This deep dive touches on many topics: the broader trends in the beverage industry, influencer culture, the "Health Halo Effect" of unregulated better-for-you sodas, and, most importantly, the power of branding. Enjoy! 00:00 Intro 03:27 The Evolution of Poppi's Branding 06:00 The Rise and Valuation of Poppi 30:50 The Health Halo Effect 38:38 The Rise of Functional Beverages 41:22 The OliPop and Poppi Rivalry 48:05 Vending Machine Gate 01:03:16 Celebrity Investors in Poppi and Other Bevs 01:16:35 Alex/Alix, Unwell Network, and Influencer Podcasts Order Kate's NYT Bestselling book, One in a Millennial here! Text or leave a voicemail for Kate at 775-HEY-BETH! Take control of your hormonal health with Allara Health. Visit allarahealth.com/BETHEREINFIVE to get your personalized treatment plan and see if Allara is right for you. With insurance, you can get started with Allara Health for as little as $0. Experience Allara Health's expert, compassionate care today. Visit allarahealth.com/BETHEREINFIVE to get started. Copays may apply. See allarahealth.com/promo for full terms and conditions. Because amika loves Be There in Five listeners as much as we love them, they're giving you a one-time use code for 20% off your first order through the end of March. Just go to loveamika.com/bethereinfive and use code BETHEREINFIVE at checkout. That's loveamika.com/bethereinfive, code BETHEREINFIVE to get 20% off your first order through March 31st! Crush your health goals with mouthwatering, chef-crafted meals delivered straight to your door. Go to cookunity.com/BETHEREINFIVE or enter code BETHEREINFIVE before checkout for 50% off your first week. That's 50% off your first week by using code BETHEREINFIVE or going to COOKUNITY.COM/BETHEREINFIVE. Go to helixsleep.com/bethereinfive for the March Madness Sale. That's helixsleep.com/bethereinfive for 20% Off Sitewide. Treat yourself to extraordinary hydration from Liquid I.V. Get 20% off your first order of Liquid I.V. when you go to LIQUID-IV.COM and use code BETHEREINFIVE at checkout. That's 20% off your first order with code BETHEREINFIVE at LIQUID-IV.COM. Upgrade how you see the world and how the world sees you. Go to paireyewear.com and use code BTIF for 15% off your first pair. And support the show by mentioning Be There in Five sent you in your post checkout survey! That's paireyewear.com, code BTIF.

This week, Kate reviews Meghan Markle (Sussex?)'s new show: With Love, Meghan. Order Kate's NYT Bestselling book, One in a Millennial here! Text or leave a voicemail for Kate at 775-HEY-BETH! Because Amika loves Be There in Five listeners as much as we love them, they're giving you a one-time use code for 20% off your first order through the end of March. Just go to loveamika.com/bethereinfive and use code BETHEREINFIVE at checkout.

This week, Kate is joined by the Pop Apologists, sisters Lauren Atkinson and Chandler Bledsoe to discuss a variety of pop culture-adjacent topics, e.g., their fascination with Mormonism in media, the Lisa Barlow paradox, the rise of Salt Lake City as a cultural moment, and how growing up in a conservative environment shaped their reality TV obsession. After that, the trio unpacks the Meghan Markle discourse, the internet's obsession with Kate Middleton's whereabouts in 2024, and what really went down during the height of the royal conspiracy rabbit hole that briefly took over their life. Plus, the moral dilemma of running a gossip podcast in the digital age, Taylor Swift's style choices, and why every millennial woman's 2008 iPod playlist was basically a personality test. Somewhere in there, they also reminisce about their most unhinged heartbreak antics, from fake Facebook boyfriends to the universal fantasy of running into your ex looking hotter than ever. Enjoy! Order Kate's NYT Bestselling book, One in a Millennial here! Text or leave a voicemail for Kate at 775-HEY-BETH! Because amika loves Be There in Five listeners as much as we love them, they're giving you a one-time use code for 20% off your first order. Just go to loveamika.com/bethereinfive and use code BETHEREINFIVE at checkout. We have a special deal for our audience: Get your first visit for only five dollars at Apostrophe.com/BETHEREINFIVE when you use our code: BETHEREINFIVE. That's a savings of fifteen dollars! This code is only available to our listeners. To get started, just go to Apostrophe.com/BETHEREINFIVE and click Get Started, then use our code BETHEREINFIVE at sign up and you'll get your first visit for only five dollars! Thank you Apostrophe for sponsoring this episode. Stress less, sleep more, and live better with Calm. For listeners of our show, Calm is offering an exclusive offer of 40% off a Calm Premium Subscription at calm.com/BETHEREINFIVE. Go to calm.com/BETHEREINFIVE for 40% off unlimited access to Calm's entire library. You're going to love Hungryroot as much as I do. Take advantage of this exclusive offer: For a limited time get 40% off your first box PLUS get a free item in every box for life. Go to Hungryroot.com/bethereinfive and use code bethereinfive. That's Hungryroot.com/bethereinfive, code bethereinfive to get 40% off your first box and a free item of your choice for life. Start HyaCera to support your glow without compromising on clean science. HyaCera from Ritual is a clinically-proven skin supplement you can actually trust. Get 25% off your first month for a limited time at ritual.com/BETHEREINFIVE. Cancel your unwanted subscriptions and reach your financial goals faster with Rocket Money. Go to RocketMoney.com/BETHEREINFIVE today. That's RocketMoney.com/BETHEREINFIVE.

This week, Kate welcomes Chelsea Anderson, the creator behind viral Instagram and TikTok accounts (@chelsea_explains and @chelseaexplainsitall, respectively). Chelsea shares some of the tips that contributed to her meteoric rise, like clever hacks and insights for parents and babysitters alike—and how this is actually not all that related to her day job. They delve into her unique ability to remember childhood thoughts and feelings, which helps her create engaging content for kids. She shares some of her hacks on air, including dealing with bedtime routines and how to soothe kids' tantrums. They also talk shop as crafters, rank TS albums, and other classic millennial childhood nostalgia that helps shape Chelsea's outlook, and how her intentional yet easy ideas come to life, from her babysitting hacks to gift-giving and party-hosting. Enjoy! Order Kate's NYT Bestselling book, One in a Millennial here (now in paperback!) Text or leave a voicemail for Kate at 775-HEY-BETH! Get 40% off your purchase at cozyearth.com/BETHEREINFIVE or use my code BETHEREINFIVE. When you check out, if you see a post-purchase survey, let them know you heard about it right here. Don't wait comfort like this is calling your name. Stay Cozy All Winter Long with Cozy Earth. You're going to love Hungryroot as much as I do. Take advantage of this exclusive offer: For a limited time get 40% off your first box PLUS get a free item in every box for life. Go to Hungryroot.com/bethereinfive and use code bethereinfive. That's Hungryroot.com/bethereinfive, code bethereinfive to get 40% off your first box and a free item of your choice for life. Embrace your ritual with extraordinary hydration from Liquid I.V. Get 20% off your first order of Liquid I.V. when you go to LIQUID-IV.COM and use code BETHEREINFIVE at checkout. That's 20% off your first order when you shop better hydration today using promo code BETHEREINFIVE at LIQUID-IV.COM. Treat yourself to clean, clinically tested skincare from OSEA. And right now we have a special discount just for our listeners. Get 10% off your first order sitewide with code BETHEREINFIVE at OSEAMalibu.com. Upgrade how you see the world and how the world sees you. Go to paireyewear.com and use code BTIF for 15% off your first pair. And support the show by mentioning Be There in Five sent you in your post checkout survey!

This week (in honor of Galentine's Day), Kate reflects on the sentimental and chaotic rituals of getting ready with girlfriends before going out (or out-out). She explores the excitement and economics of the going-out top/designer denim combo, the deeper connections forged at pregames, the cultural pressures and beauty standards of the mid-2000s, and shares memories of bonding over makeup, clothes, and shared anticipation. In the second half, listeners sent in their going out anecdotes, revealing how these pre-games were often more meaningful than the nights that followed. Enjoy! Order Kate's NYT Bestselling book, One in a Millennial here (now in paperback!) Text or leave a voicemail for Kate at 775-HEY-BETH! Take control of your hormonal health with Allara Health and get 25% off your first month of personalized, expert care by visiting allarahealth.com/BETHEREINFIVE today. Allara is redefining women's health with expert care for your unique journey. Get started with Allara Health's compassion-first expert care today with 25% off your first month when you go to allarahealth.com/BETHEREINFIVE. Because amika loves Be There in Five listeners as much as we love them, they're giving you a one-time use code for 20% off your first order. Just go to loveamika.com/bethereinfive and use code BETHEREINFIVE at checkout. Go to helixsleep.com/bethereinfive for 27% Off Sitewide + 2 Free Dream Pillows with Mattress Purchase + Free Bedding Bundle (2 Dream Pillows, Sheet Set, and Mattress Protector) with any Luxe or Elite Mattress Order. Start HyaCera to support your glow without compromising on clean science. HyaCera from Ritual is a clinically-proven skin supplement you can actually trust. Get 25% off your first month for a limited time at ritual.com/BETHEREINFIVE. Cancel your unwanted subscriptions and reach your financial goals faster with Rocket Money. Go to RocketMoney.com/BETHEREINFIVE today. Shop SKIMS best intimates including the Fits Everybody Collection and more at SKIMS.com and SKIMS stores. After you place your order, be sure to let them know we sent you! Select "podcast" in the survey and be sure to select our show in the dropdown menu that follows.

This week, Kate and her sister give One in a Millennial one last hurrah in honor of its paperback release by sharing some more behind-the-scenes nostalgia and adding context from their two millennial lives that shaped how the book came to be. Kelly asks Kate questions relating to lots of never-before-shared details, e.g. the metaphorical significance of opening the book inside a shopping mall, examples of cut chapters and concepts, honoring their mutual experiences being routinely friend-zoned, revisiting her tendency to sob through Back in the Daybed, opening up about the haunting irony of her audiobook recording experience, and so much more! Enjoy :) Order Kate's NYT Bestselling book, One in a Millennial here (now out in paperback, too!) Text or leave a voicemail for Kate at 775-HEY-BETH! Thank you to our exclusive partner for today's episode, Amika! Because Amika loves Be There in Five listeners as much as we love them, they're giving you a one-time use code for 20% off your first order. Just go to loveamika.com/bethereinfive and use code BETHEREINFIVE at checkout. That's LOVE a-m-i-k-a DOT com SLASH bethereinfive, code BETHEREINFIVE to get 20% off your first order.

This week, Kate's sisters-in-law are back on the pod for a lighthearted convo about a variety of topics in the second half of the episode, like following up on some One Hit Mumbler news, discussing golf course misogyny, what we'd choose as our grift of choice if we lean into the swindler's economy, the dark side of chocolate, trend fatigue, 90s chain letters, etc. Kate opens by touching on a topic that they discuss later in the ep, in terms of struggling to navigate parenting and self-care in the Information Age when you can find a strong opinion arguing for or against anything ever at a given time, making it hard to know what to prioritize, what's a legitimate problem, and what's just the algorithm fear-mongering. She also reviews some things she's tried in a quest for self-care in the New Year, from a standing desk to neck 'tox to investigating the influencer-beloved PreNuvo scan. She also briefly rants about feeling slightly trolled by "75 Hard" New Year's resolutions and questions why we're supposed to admire people overcoming elective adversity, which likely won't go over well. Enjoy! Be There in Five listeners get $300 off the price of a Prenuvo whole body scan at prenuvo.com/KATEKENNEDY Order Kate's NYT Bestselling book (available in paperback Tues 1.28), One in a Millennial here! Text or leave a voicemail for Kate at 775-HEY-BETH! Stress less, sleep more, and live better with Calm. For listeners of our show, Calm is offering an exclusive offer of 40% off a Calm Premium Subscription at calm.com/BETHEREINFIVE. You're going to love Hungryroot as much as I do. Take advantage of this exclusive offer: For a limited time get 40% off your first box PLUS get a free item in every box for life. Go to Hungryroot.com/bethereinfive and use code bethereinfive. Show off new sides of yourself this year. Go to paireyewear.com and use code BTIF for 15% off your first pair. And support the show by mentioning that Be There in Five sent you in your post-checkout survey! Cancel your unwanted subscriptions and reach your financial goals faster with Rocket Money. Go to RocketMoney.com/BETHEREINFIVE today. Shop SKIMS best intimates including the Fits Everybody Collection and more at SKIMS.com and SKIMS stores. After you place your order, be sure to let them know we sent you! Select "podcast" in the survey and be sure to select our show in the dropdown menu that follows.

This week, Kate reviews the PR "smear campaign" half of the complex legal battle between Blake Lively and Justin Baldoni, delving into the concept of astroturfing, its relevance to Amber Heard and Meghan Markle, and details the "he said/she said" of the PR warfare detailed in the lawsuits. Then, Kate interviews attorney/former litigator Alex Mack for some legal insights/clarifications about the case to ensure she's not entirely off base when reading through so much legal paperwork. Tune in to thoroughly examine text exchanges, press strategies, and discussions about the potential implications of sophisticated systems that manipulate online sentiment. Enjoy! Alex interview starts at 1:07 Submit LA Beth Community GoFundMes, Wishlists Fundraising Links, etc LA Beths - spreadsheet of responses Mutual Aid LA list of orgs in need Spreadsheet of displaced Black families in Altadena Brands Providing Products to Families Impacted by LA Fires In-person volunteer opps Order Kate's NYT Bestselling book, One in a Millennial here! Text or leave a voicemail for Kate at 775-HEY-BETH! Thank you to AllModern for furnishing Kate's Season 2 Studio! AllModern has the best of modern furniture and decor all in one place. With styles from Scandi and mid-century, to minimalist and maximalist, every design is hand-vetted for quality by their team of experts. Plus they have fast + free shipping! Check out allmodern.com; you'll find Kate's bookshelves here and her new rug here! Take control of your hormonal health with Allara Health and get 25% off your first month of personalized, expert care by visiting allarahealth.com/BETHEREINFIVE today. Allara is redefining women's health with expert care for your unique journey. Get started with Allara Health's compassion-first expert care today with 25% off your first month when you go to allarahealth.com/BETHEREINFIVE. We have a special deal for our audience: Get your first visit for only five dollars at Apostrophe.com/BETHEREINFIVE when you use our code: BETHEREINFIVE. That's a savings of fifteen dollars! This code is only available to our listeners. To get started, just go to Apostrophe.com/BETHEREINFIVE and click Get Started, then use our code BETHEREINFIVE at sign up and you'll get your first visit for only five dollars! Thank you Apostrophe for sponsoring this episode. Reset your routine with convenient, mouthwatering meals crafted with local ingredients by award-winning chefs. Go to cookunity.com/BETHEREINFIVE or enter code BETHEREINFIVE before checkout for 50% off your first week. That's 50% off your first week by using code BETHEREINFIVE or going to COOKUNITY.COM/BETHEREINFIVE. Embrace your ritual with extraordinary hydration from Liquid I.V. Get 20% off your first order of Liquid I.V. when you go to LIQUID-IV.COM and use code BETHEREINFIVE at checkout. That's 20% off your first order when you shop better hydration today using promo code BETHEREINFIVE at LIQUID-IV.COM. Cancel your unwanted subscriptions and reach your financial goals faster with Rocket Money. Go to RocketMoney.com/BETHEREINFIVE today.

This week, we kick off 2025 with a classic BTI5 deep dive, investigating the Blake Lively and Justin Baldoni controversy surrounding the film It Ends with Us. Kate unravels layers of legal filings, allegations of workplace harassment, and claims of PR warfare, and examines the charges from both sides. She also delves into the intricacies of their respective lawsuits, the timeline, and the broader issues at stake with media manipulation and astroturfing. Come back for part 2 when she dives more into the PR side. Enjoy! Order Kate's NYT Bestselling book, One in a Millennial here! Text or leave a voicemail for Kate at 775-HEY-BETH! Thank you to AllModern for furnishing Kate's Season 2 Studio! AllModern has the best of modern furniture and decor all in one place. With styles from Scandi and mid-century, to minimalist and maximalist, every design is hand-vetted for quality by their team of experts. Plus they have fast + free shipping! Check out allmodern.com; you'll find Kate's bookshelves here and her new rug here! Visit cozyearth.com and use my exclusive 40% off code BETHEREINFIVE. If you get a post purchase survey, say that you heard about Cozy Earth from this podcast! A better year starts with better sleep—wrap yourself in Cozy Earth. Stress less, sleep more, and live better with Calm. For listeners of our show, Calm is offering an exclusive offer of 40% off a Calm Premium Subscription at calm.com/BETHEREINFIVE. Go to calm.com/BETHEREINFIVE for 40% off unlimited access to Calm's entire library. Go to helixsleep.com/bethereinfive for 25% Off Sitewide + 2 Free Dream Pillows with Mattress Purchase + Free Bedding Bundle (2 Dream Pillows, Sheet Set, and Mattress Protector) with any Luxe or Elite Mattress Order. You're going to love Hungryroot as much as I do. Take advantage of this exclusive offer: For a limited time get 40% off your first box PLUS get a free item in every box for life. Go to Hungryroot.com/bethereinfive and use code bethereinfive. Give your skin a New Year glow-up with clean, clinically tested skincare from OSEA. And right now we have a special discount just for our listeners. Get 10% off your first order sitewide with code BETHEREINFIVE at OSEAMalibu.com. Start HyaCera to support your glow without compromising on clean science. HyaCera from Ritual is a clinically-proven skin supplement you can actually trust. Get 25% off your first month for a limited time at ritual.com/BETHEREINFIVE.

This week, Kate recaps some of 2024's least notable micro-trends, goes through her embarrassing purchases from the Tiktok shop, admits some of her shameful habits in the spirit of the "we listen and we don't judge" trend, contemplates the vibe of Taylor Swift being thrown a Taylor Swift-themed party, discusses her concern for when lyrics about someone being blue border on a HIPAA violation, then reviews Pinterest Predicts for 2025's forecasted trends, but not before taking United Airlines and Nabisco to task in the name of spreadable cheese. Happiest Holidays to you and yours, we'll be back and Beth-er than ever in 2025! SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS Order Kate's NYT Bestselling book, One in a Millennial here! Text or leave a voicemail for Kate at 775-HEY-BETH! Thank you to AllModern for furnishing Kate's Season 2 Studio! AllModern has the best of modern furniture and decor all in one place. With styles from Scandi and mid-century, to minimalist and maximalist, every design is hand-vetted for quality by their team of experts. Plus they have fast + free shipping! Check out allmodern.com; you'll find Kate's bookshelves here and her new rug here! Save on the perfect gift by visiting AuraFrames.com to get $35-off Aura's best-selling Carver Mat frames by using promo code BETHEREINFIVE at checkout. This deal is exclusive to listeners, so get yours now in time for the holidays! Terms and conditions apply. 20% off + 2 FREE pillows for all mattress orders at HelixSleep.com/bethereinfive. MasterClass always has great offers during the holidays, sometimes up to as much as 50% off. Head over to MASTERCLASS.com/BETHEREINFIVE for the current offer. Get matching pairs for the family, stuff a stocking, or gift a Pair to yourself. Save 15% with code BTIF at paireyewear.com. And support the show by mentioning Be There in Five in your post-checkout survey!

In this episode, Kate provides personal reflections about the past 21 months of Taylor Swift's Eras Tour fanfare, online and IRL, then reads listener-submitted stories about major moments and memories associated with the tour. Sweet, sentimental, and sometimes sad, but a beautiful reminder of how pop culture and fangirls are so much *more* than meets the cat-eye. Enjoy! SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS Order Kate's NYT Bestselling book, One in a Millennial here! Text or leave a voicemail for Kate at 775-HEY-BETH! Thank you to AllModern for furnishing Kate's Season 2 Studio! AllModern has the best of modern furniture and decor all in one place. With styles from Scandi and mid-century, to minimalist and maximalist, every design is hand-vetted for quality by their team of experts. Plus they have fast + free shipping! Check out allmodern.com; you'll find Kate's bookshelves here and rug here! Save on the perfect gift by visiting AuraFrames.com to get $35-off Aura's best-selling Carver Mat frames by using promo code BETHEREINFIVE at checkout. This deal is exclusive to listeners, so get yours now in time for the holidays! Terms and conditions apply. Stress less, sleep more, and live better with Calm. For listeners of our show, Calm is offering an exclusive offer of 40% off a Calm Premium Subscription at calm.com/BETHEREINFIVE. Go to calm.com/BETHEREINFIVE for 40% off unlimited access to Calm's entire library. Want your Cozy Earth pajamas by Christmas? Order by December 13 for free shipping! Missed it? You can still get expedited shipping until December 20 to ensure it arrives in time. Don't wait—head to cozyearth.com/BETHEREINFIVE and use my exclusive 40% off code BETHEREINFIVE to give the gift of luxury this holiday season. If you get a post-purchase survey, say that you heard about Cozy Earth from this podcast! Wrap the Ones You Love in Luxury with Cozy Earth. MasterClass always has great offers during the holidays, sometimes up to as much as 50% off. Head over to MASTERCLASS.com/BETHEREINFIVE for the current offer. Give the gift of glow this holiday season with clean, clinically tested skincare from OSEA. And right now we have a special discount just for our listeners. Get 10% off your first order sitewide with code BETHEREINFIVE at OSEAMalibu.com. Get 25% off your first month for a limited time at ritual.com/BETHEREINFIVE. Start Ritual or add HyaCera to your subscription today.

This week, Kate begins by recapping her experience seeing Wicked twice and shares her favorite Easter eggs, then answers listener voicemails that are a combination of nostalgic pop culture, millennial travel icons, and a witchy women's studies lesson. In this episode, Kate reassures listeners that when America decides, it's not always on our side, as evidenced by many years of questionable voting behavior from the majority that brought us the Soul Patrol on American Idol. Then she pilots something she'll never do again called Bethtern Civ, where she explores the medieval demonizing of folk magic and pagan rituals later referred to as 'witchcraft' in the context of it being in opposition to the Christianization of the West. Lastly, she snorkels millennial queen/icon/legend, Samantha Brown: Travel Guide, and Kate shares how Sam's sensible haircut and can-do attitude at waterparks inspired her modern love for hotels and resorts. Enjoy! Order Kate's NYT Bestselling book, One in a Millennial here! Text or leave a voicemail for Kate at 775-HEY-BETH! Thank you to AllModern for furnishing Kate's Season 2 Studio! AllModern has the best of modern furniture and decor all in one place. With styles from Scandi and mid-century, to minimalist and maximalist, every design is hand-vetted for quality by their team of experts. Plus they have fast + free shipping! Check out allmodern.com; you'll find Kate's bookshelves here and her new rug here! For a limited time, visit AuraFrames.com and get $45 off Aura's best-selling Carver Mat frames by using promo code BETHEREINFIVE at checkout. This exclusive Black Friday Cyber Monday deal is their best of the year, so don't miss out! Terms and conditions apply. This weekend only, I can offer you an exclusive 45% off discount code. This code is the best discount you'll find for Cozy Earth year-round! Visit cozyearth.com/BETHEREINFIVE and code BETHEREINFIVE to get the best products for your loved ones this holiday season. Don't miss out! Wrap the Ones You Love in Luxury with Cozy Earth! 25% off Sitewide + a FREE Bedding Bundle (2 Dream Pillows, Sheet Set, and Mattress Protector) with any Luxe or Elite mattress order at HelixSleep.com/BeThereInFive. To get 15% off your next gift, go to UNCOMMONGOODS.com/BETHEREINFIVE. Don't miss out on this limited time offer! Uncommon Goods. We're all out of the ordinary.

An episode full of fun, fandom, and frisson where Kate and her guest, Caroline Moss, discuss their hot takes about Broadway musicals, but pepper in plenty of tangents from Babysitter's Club to The Beets (from Doug) and beyond. The majority of this episode is in honor of this weekend's long-awaited premiere of Wicked, and they talk through some Wicked lore, detail their favorite Elphabas, and walk through brain-scratching clips of different pre-approved riffs Elphie can use for her final "battle cry" in Defying Gravity. They also share their mutual fascination with Wicked, the complexities of Broadway casting and performances, and their favorite Broadway shows and songs. From vocal endurance to the atmosphere and experience of live musicals, they cover it all (including sharing their favorite clips from iconic songs). And don't let the theater kid vibes scare you if you aren't into musicals—this episode is for the theater fanatics and the average theater admirer alike. They've got a few pop culture and nostalgic rabbit holes to go down as well. Don't worry, by the end they sing a duet because they cannot help themselves. Enjoy! Enjoy! Order Kate's NYT Bestselling book, One in a Millennial here! Text or leave a voicemail for Kate at 775-HEY-BETH! Thank you to AllModern for furnishing Kate's Season 2 Studio! AllModern has the best of modern furniture and decor all in one place. With styles from Scandi and mid-century, to minimalist and maximalist, every design is hand-vetted for quality by their team of experts. Plus they have fast + free shipping! Check out allmodern.com; you'll find Kate's bookshelves here and her new rug here! Visit cozyearth.com/BETHEREINFIVE and use my exclusive 40% off code BETHEREINFIVE to give the gift of luxury this holiday season. If you get a post purchase survey, say that you heard about Cozy Earth from this podcast! Wrap the Ones You Love in Luxury with Cozy Earth. For understated luxury at its best this fall, shop the must-have pairs of the season and receive 20% off your purchase with code BETHEREINFIVE at marcfisherfootwear.com. MasterClass always has great offers during the holidays, sometimes up to as much as 50% off. Head over to MASTERCLASS.com/BETHEREINFIVE for the current offer. Give the gift of glow this holiday season with clean, clinically tested skincare from OSEA. And right now we have a special discount just for our listeners. Get 10% off your first order sitewide with code BETHEREINFIVE at OSEAMalibu.com. Get matching pairs for the little ones, stuff a stocking, or gift a Pair to yourself during Pair's sitewide holiday sale. Go to paireyewear.com and shop the Holiday sale to save 20% sitewide. And support the show by mentioning that Be There in Five sent you in your post-checkout survey! To get 15% off your next gift, go to UNCOMMONGOODS.com/BETHEREINFIVE. Don't miss out on this limited time offer! Uncommon Goods. We're all out of the ordinary. Tags (Episode Tracker doc): Caroline Moss, Gee Thanks Just Bought It, Interview, Guest, Musicals, Wicked, Idina Menzel, Ariana Grande, Laguna Beach

**Original air date 11/10. Sorry if this is duplicated elsewhere, had to upload another version because some pod catchers are missing the episode** This week, Kate is joined by "America's Government Teacher" Sharon McMahon of @sharonsaysso and NYT bestselling author of The Small and the Mighty. The first half of the episode contains some of Kate's off the cuff thoughts / existential spirals following the election results and the second half of the episode is a nonpartisan discussion (FYI recorded 3 weeks BEFORE the election) about topics like: whose written into (and out of) history, what's at stake in the election regarding the state of our democracy, how to approach people of differing beliefs, what she thinks are the most importantly yet overlooked issues, what we are in for in the coming months, and beyond. After this week, back to regularly scheduled pop cultural programming :) Enjoy! Order Kate's NYT Bestselling book, One in a Millennial here! Text or leave a voicemail for Kate at 775-HEY-BETH! Thank you to AllModern for furnishing Kate's Season 2 Studio! AllModern has the best of modern furniture and decor all in one place. With styles from Scandi and mid-century, to minimalist and maximalist, every design is hand-vetted for quality by their team of experts. Plus they have fast + free shipping! Check out allmodern.com; you'll find Kate's bookshelves here and her new rug here! We have an exclusive discount for BTI5 listeners - get an EXTRA 25% off (that's 50% off total!) ALL sale inventory. Never a better time to try Evelyn & Bobbie - our very best deals! Go to evelynbobbie.com/sale and use code KATE50 for 50% off select colors + styles (general public will only get 25%! This code is good through the end of the year, but styles, colors and sizes are going quick! Shop soon for the best selection at these discounted prices! Get cozy in Quince's high-quality wardrobe essentials. Go to Quince.com/bethereinfive for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns. Get 25% off your first month for a limited time at ritual.com/BETHEREINFIVE. Start Ritual or add HyaCera to your subscription today. That's ritual.com/BETHEREINFIVE for 25% off. To get 15% off your next gift, go to UNCOMMONGOODS.com/bethereinfive. Don't miss out on this limited time offer! Uncommon Goods. We're all out of the ordinary. driveEvent attachment 1 out of 1 in total

In this bonus episode, Kate discusses the impact of reproductive rights on millennial women ahead of the 2024 election, and uses experts and real-life stories to showcase how prioritizing a highly interconnected system of rights and freedoms impacting half the population is the farthest thing from a "single issue." This episode has three parts: 00:00 Kate's intro about the multi-faceted nature of reproductive freedom and millennials' unique position re: being child-bearing age when the U.S. Supreme Court abandoned its duty to protect citizens' fundamental rights and overturned Roe v. Wade 23:58 An interview with Dr. Roohi Jeelani, MD, FACOG, double board certified Reproductive Endocrinologist and Infertility Specialist (REI) and Chief Medical Officer of Kindbody, who provides unbiased, scientific insights into IVF, fetal personhood, and the existing and potential complications that arise from misconceived policies related to IVF 59:28 (TW) Kate reads real listener-submitted personal stories about a broad spectrum of reproductive issues, e.g. the challenging landscape modern women face due to restrictive abortion laws when managing their lives and losses, experiences being provided limited options in strict states and/or Catholic hospitals for contraception, induced abortions, and miscarriage management, along with examples of women who felt forced to cross state lines to receive necessary care, heartbreaking stories about barriers in TFMR situations, and women affected by the IVF ruling in Alabama, among other experiences. The goal of this non-monetized bonus episode is to 1. help clarify the murky and somewhat sudden involvement of IVF in the 2024 election cycle rhetoric, and 2. to provide listeners with examples of how politicians' throwaway talking points can profoundly affect everyday women' lives in dangerous and devastating ways.

It's All Hallows Eve, and Kate has crowd-sourced listener ghost stories to hear about your interactions with the other side. First, she details her fascination with ghost fashions, witchy rituals at sleepovers, and millennials' collective obsession with fall; then, she dives into your paranormal-core sightings—episode 1 of 2 this week. Enjoy! Order Kate's NYT Bestselling book, One in a Millennial here! Text or leave a voicemail for Kate at 775-HEY-BETH! Thank you to AllModern for furnishing Kate's Season 2 Studio! AllModern has the best of modern furniture and decor all in one place. With styles from Scandi and mid-century, to minimalist and maximalist, every design is hand-vetted for quality by their team of experts. Plus they have fast + free shipping! Check out allmodern.com; you'll find Kate's bookshelves here and her new rug here! Take a load off and let CookUnity handle dinner. Affordable food, crafted by award-winning chefs, delivered to your door. Go to cookunity.com/BETHEREINFIVE or enter code BETHEREINFIVE before checkout for 50% off your first week. For understated luxury at its best this fall, shop the must-have pairs of the season and receive 20% off your purchase with code BETHEREINFIVE at marcfisherfootwear.com. Give the gift of glow this holiday season with clean, clinically tested skincare from OSEA. And right now we have a special discount just for our listeners. Get 10% off your first order sitewide with code BETHEREINFIVE at OSEAMalibu.com. Go to cozyearth.com/BETHEREINFIVE and use code BETHEREINFIVE for an exclusive discount for up to 40% off. Also, If you get a post-purchase survey, say that you heard about Cozy Earth from this podcast! Wrap yourself in luxury this fall with Cozy Earth!

This week, Kate is joined by her sister Kelly, live from their attempt to do an incredibly hard viral dance move that the internet gaslit them into believing would be easy. In this episode, they mostly revisit The Tortured Poets Department for the first time on-air since they recorded their reaction video in April and update listeners on their favorite spins, skips, and sentimental lyrics that helped them reminisce, rage, or ruminate from their headphones in different ways. From TikTok dances and yearbook staff memories to deep emotional reflections on love, loss, and personal growth, this episode's got something for everyone. Enjoy and listen for more of this conversation this weekend on patreon.com/bethereinfive.

Kate's under the weather but over the moon to do some nostalgic reminiscing about staying home sick as a kid with a bed pillow on the couch, knowing exaggerating symptoms may be wrong but at least she got to watch The Price is Right. Then, she crowdsources wellness related Old Wives Tales/urban legends, and fact checks them live on-air, like if wet hair in the cold makes you sick, you shouldn't swim after you eat, or if cracking your knuckles makes them bigger. News you can use! Sick! SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS Order Kate's NYT Bestselling book, One in a Millennial here! Text or leave a voicemail for Kate at 775-HEY-BETH! Thank you to AllModern for furnishing Kate's Season 2 Studio! AllModern has the best of modern furniture and decor all in one place. With styles from Scandi and mid-century, to minimalist and maximalist, every design is hand-vetted for quality by their team of experts. Plus they have fast + free shipping! Check out allmodern.com; you'll find Kate's bookshelves here and her new rug here! In October, Helix is offering 20% off all mattress orders at HelixSleep.com/BeThereInFive! Fall into a new routine with infinite possibilities from Pair Eyewear. Go to paireyewear.com and use code BTIF for 15% off your first pair. And support the show by mentioning that Be There in Five sent you in your post-checkout survey! Get 25% off your first month for a limited time at ritual.com/BETHEREINFIVE. Start Ritual or add HyaCera to your subscription today.

In this episode, we're joined by Ashley Spencer, author of Disney High: The Untold Story of the Rise and Fall of Disney Channel's Tween Empire. She shares her four-year journey researching Disney becoming the choice tween TV channel, and shares details from her interviews with former executives and cast/crew members, like the infamous Hilary Duff and LaLaine fallout or how the Zac/Vanessa High School Musical romance came to be IRL. We explore Disney's internal culture and show development, the role of pop music in Disney Channel's success (Samantha Mumba!), and get all the tea from our favorite 90s and 2000s shows and DCOMs. And last but not least, we can't help but touch on how things have changed since our Zoog Disney days—from modern media consumption patterns, the implications of binge-watching, and the loss of monoculture. And don't forget to check out Ashley's book below! Enjoy. Read Disney High by Ashley Spencer: https://us.macmillan.com/books/9781250283450/disneyhigh SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS Order Kate's NYT Bestselling book, One in a Millennial here! Text or leave a voicemail for Kate at 775-HEY-BETH! Thank you to AllModern for furnishing Kate's Season 2 Studio! AllModern has the best of modern furniture and decor all in one place. With styles from Scandi and mid-century, to minimalist and maximalist, every design is hand-vetted for quality by their team of experts. Plus they have fast + free shipping! Check out allmodern.com; you'll find Kate's bookshelves here and her new rug here! Take a load off and let CookUnity handle dinner. Affordable food, crafted by award-winning chefs, delivered to your door. Go to cookunity.com/BETHEREINFIVE or enter code BETHEREINFIVE before checkout for 50% off your first week. Upgrade your shower with clean, vegan face and body care from OSEA. Get 10% off your first order sitewide with code BETHEREINFIVE at OSEAMalibu.com. You'll get free samples with every order, and free shipping on orders over $60. Start HyaCera to help minimize wrinkles without compromising on clean science. HyaCera from Ritual is a clinically-proven skin supplement you can actually trust.* Get 25% off your first month for a limited time at ritual.com/BETHEREINFIVE. Start Ritual or add HyaCera to your subscription today. TAGS: Ashley Spencer, DCOM, Disney, Interview, Guest, Disney Channel, High School Musical, Zac Efron, Hilary Duff, Hannah Montana

This week, inspired by the nostalgic TV masterpiece (excl. reboot) on Lifetime, Unsolved Mysteries, Kate introduces a (maybe?) new series she's testing called "Influencer Unsolved Mysteries," where she wants to deep dive into niche influencer lore, specifically times when fans/followers have been left with unanswered questions or presented with mysterious explanations for something that wouldn't usually be our business, but they told us about it first and it's their literal business. The first episode of IUM discusses Seth and Jenna Wright, Ballerina Farm relatives who were formerly known as @whiteshantyathome, and their home construction project that grew their social media following in 2019-2020 due to sharing the process of building an unusual but grand English manor-style home made entirely of limestone by hand in Utah. They appeared to pour their hearts and souls into creating their "little piece of England" on a homestead in Utah, where they planned to raise their seven homeschooled kids (and Scottish Highland cows that matched their aesthetic). But one night in August 2020, everything they worked for went up in flames in the blink of an eye, and the half-finished custom home they built themselves stone by stone was destroyed in a matter of minutes by a house fire. What happened? What details did we miss about that tragic night due to their not explaining more until they went private? Why did they nearly disappear from social media for the past four years? Why are they back now? Is it to share their latest renovation? Or because they became known for posting far-right conspiracy theories the last time they were active in the fall of 2020? Tune into this BTI5 deep dive to see what we can find. If you like this series, call or text 775-HEY-BETH to nominate your next influencer mystery. No topic is too light or heavy, whether an active account abruptly went dark, a friendship had a falling out, or a normal-seeming person went from zero to zealot faster than you can say, "Do your research." The goal isn't to drag anybody, but to have a watering hole for those of us who were chronically online before it was a term and check in on the bloggers and influencers of yesteryear we obsessed over, how they relate to current issues, and revisit their stories through a comedic, critical, and [where warranted] compassionate lens. SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS Order Kate's NYT Bestselling book, One in a Millennial here! Helix is offering 25% off all mattress orders AND two free pillows for our listeners! Go to HelixSleep.com/BeThereInFive. This is their best offer yet and it won't last long! With Helix, better sleep starts now. Simplify your kiddo's mealtime with 30% OFF your first order. Go to LITTLESPOON.COM/BETHEREINFIVE and enter our code BETHEREINFIVE at checkout to get 30% OFF your first Little Spoon order. For understated luxury at its best this fall, shop the must-have pairs of the season and receive 20% off your purchase with code BETHEREINFIVE at marcfisherfootwear.com.

In this episode, Kate opens by talking about top-of-mind things for everyone, like P. Diddy's indictment, Sabrina Carpenter's album, and if she actually cut her own face-framing layers this weekend. Then she invites her friend, author, and beloved IG poet (@maryoliversdrunkcousin) Lyndsay Rush on the pod to talk about a variety of things, like Single-White-Femaling each other's lives and careers, e.g. having babies within a day of each other and books come out the same year with the same publisher. They discuss some LOL and heartfelt challenges about new motherhood, like the shift from infant to toddler, Lyndsay's tips for meeting mom friends, and Kate's formal apology to the wine mom community. They then dive into topics related to Lyndsay's new book of poems, 'A Bit Much," and meander through topics like snacks, nostalgia, quirky inventions, and childhood hobbies (among other topics) and end with us offering up some options for Taylor Swift-related food and drink wordplay for your next themed party. Enjoy! Don't forget to subscribe on YouTube to watch full episodes and comment with other Beths! https://www.youtube.com/@bethereinfivepodcast Order Kate's NYT Bestselling book, One in a Millennial here! Text or leave a voicemail for Kate at 775-HEY-BETH! Take a load off and let CookUnity handle dinner. Affordable food, crafted by award-winning chefs, delivered to your door. Go to cookunity.com/BETHEREINFIVE or enter code BETHEREINFIVE before checkout for 50% off your first week. That's 50% off your first week by using code BETHEREINFIVE or going to cookunity.com/BETHEREINFIVE. Evelyn & Bobbie is giving Be There in Five listeners an exclusive discount code to try Evelyn & Bobbie bras, risk-free, for yourself! Use code BETHEREINFIVE on EvelynBobbie.com for $15 off your first bra purchase! For understated luxury at its best this fall, shop the must-have pairs of the season and receive 20% off your purchase with code BETHEREINFIVE at marcfisherfootwear.com. Fall into a new routine with infinite possibilities from Pair Eyewear. Go to paireyewear.com and use code BTIF for 15% off your first pair. And support the show by mentioning that Be There in Five sent you in your post- checkout survey!

Kate recaps the new Hulu series, The Secret Lives of Mormon Wives. Will MomTok survive this episode??! SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS Order Kate's NYT Bestselling book, One in a Millennial here! Text or leave a voicemail for Kate at 775-HEY-BETH! Want to send a text to Kate or leave a voicemail she might read and Right now, Hungryroot is offering Be There In Five listeners 30% off your first delivery and free veggies for life. Just go to Hungryroot.com/BETHEREINFIVE, to get 30% off your first delivery and get your free veggies. That's Hungryroot.com/BETHEREINFIVE. Don't forget to use our link, so they know we sent you. For understated luxury at its best this fall, shop the must-have pairs of the season and receive 20% off your purchase with code BETHEREINFIVE at marcfisherfootwear.com. Upgrade your shower with clean, vegan face and body care from OSEA. Get 10% off your first order sitewide with code BETHEREINFIVE at OSEAMalibu.com. You'll get free samples with every order, and free shipping on orders over $60. Head to OSEAMalibu.com and use code BETHEREINFIVE for 10% off. Get 25% off your first month for a limited time a ritual.com/BETHEREINFIVE. Start Ritual or add HyaCera to your subscription today. That's ritual.com/BETHEREINFIVE for 25% off.

In the season 1 finale, Kate decides she should have another season after over 6 years of not realizing she was still technically in season one of Be There in Five, then delves into her candid experience with motherhood she's promised the main feed for the last year. Enjoy a follow-up from Childless Mill, some cheesy mom thoughts about cuteness aggression & having no chill, practical tips about L&D, surviving months 1-3, and feeling surprised by her social identity, among many other discussions inside the vast world of motherhood. Join her to debunk some of her prior misconceptions and confirm plenty of former doomsday perceptions, with heartfelt personal anecdotes aplenty. After this episode, Kate's taking a hiatus until September, so if you want more bonus content & weekly BTIF episodes, go to patreon.com/bethereinfive. Join for a year for 10% off or join for a day, she's not picky. Enjoy! Fin. Order Kate's NYT Bestselling book, One in a Millennial here! Sign up for ButcherBox today by going to Butcherbox.com/BETHEREINFIVE and use code BETHEREINFIVE at checkout and enjoy your choice of bone-in chicken thighs, top sirloins, or salmon in every box for an entire year, plus get $20 off! Again, that's Butcherbox.com/BETHEREINFIVE and use code BETHEREINFIVE! Simplify your kiddo's mealtime with 30% OFF your first order. Go to LITTLESPOON.COM/BETHEREINFIVE and enter our code BETHEREINFIVE at checkout to get 30% OFF your first Little Spoon order. Get healthy, glowing skin for summer with clean, vegan skin and body care from OSEA. Get 10% off your first order sitewide with code BETHEREINFIVE at OSEAMalibu.com. You'll get free samples with every order, and free shipping on orders over $60. Get 25% off your first month for a limited time at ritual.com/BETHEREINFIVE. Start Ritual or add HyaCera to your subscription today. That's ritual.com/BETHEREINFIVE for 25% off.

This week, Kate explores the Ballerina Farm article heard 'round the World Wide Web and reacts to the Times UK profile of homesteaders Hannah Neeleman and her husband Daniel, who run a picturesque farm in Utah with their eight children. Kate high-level examines Neeleman's portrayal of farm life, the influence of their Mormon faith on gender roles, how that lack of context likely made the article more inflammatory to a secular audience, and discusses the complexities of claimed empowerment in our choices when they're from a finite set of options. She also goes on a gratuitous Juilliard tangent (the Troy Bolton of it all), but not before a predictable plea to her audience to not marry someone after three weeks and a rant about bearing children being left up to God's will. Kate also touches on her confusion about the label of "trad wife," wonders if she is one while her son is on her lap while she records, and attempts to explore the nuances of active versus passive harm when promoting a certain traditional (or regressive) lifestyle on the internet. Enjoy! https://www.thetimes.com/magazines/the-sunday-times-magazine/article/meet-the-queen-of-the-trad-wives-and-her-eight-children-plfr50cgk SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS Order Kate's NYT Bestselling book, One in a Millennial here! Right now get up to 60% off your Babbel subscription - but only for our listeners - at Babbel.com/BTIF.Get up to 60% off at Babbel.com/BTIF. Rules and restrictions may apply. Remember to go to cozyearth.com/bethereinfive to enjoy 30% off using the code BETHEREINFIVE. And after placing your order, select "podcast" in the survey and then select "BETHEREINFIVE" in the dropdown menu that follows. Right now, Hungryroot is offering Be There In Five listeners 40% off your first delivery and free veggies for life. Just go to Hungryroot.com/BETHEREINFIVE, to get 40% off your first delivery and get your free veggies. That's Hungryroot.com/BETHEREINFIVE. Don't forget to use our link, so they know we sent you. Celebrate friendship and adventure this summer with Pair Eyewear. Go to paireyewear.com and use code BTIF for 15% off your first Pair. And mention that [Be There in Five] sent you in your post-checkout survey to support us.

This week, Kate is joined by Hannah Berner, comedian and host of the popular podcasts Giggly Squad and Berner Phone, and the star of her new Netflix special, We Ride at Dawn. Broadcasting from a studio in NYC, Kate asks about her trajectory since reality TV, the flawless burnt amber matching set outfit choice, navigating the male-dominated stand-up scene, and the importance of centering niche female humor in mainstream spaces. They also discuss the pressure women face in their 30s, the ever-present dilemma of having kids, and how Hannah feels that tennis is now an aesthetic, among other things. Enjoy! SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS Order Kate's NYT Bestselling book, One in a Millennial here: https://static.macmillan.com/static/smp/one-in-a-millenial/ Now through July 31 you can try 3 months of Audible Premium Plus for ZERO dollars! Gift yourself or someone special an Audible Premium Plus membership today. #CommissionsEarned Right now get up to 60% off your Babbel subscription - but only for our listeners - at Babbel.com/BTIF. Get up to 60% off at Babbel.com/BTIF. Rules and restrictions may apply. Sign up for ButcherBox today by going to Butcherbox.com/BETHEREINFIVE and use code BETHEREINFIVE at checkout and enjoy your choice of bone-in chicken thighs, top sirloins, or salmon in every box for an entire year, plus get $20 off! Again, that's Butcherbox.com/BETHEREINFIVE and use code BETHEREINFIVE! Tags: Hannah Berner, Giggly Squad, Summer House, women in comedy, We Ride at Dawn, Netflix special, Bravo

This week, we're joined by two friends of the pod, Sami Sage (Betches Co-Founder) and Emily Amick (@emilyinyourphone) about their book Democracy in Retrograde (released 7/9). The discussion focuses on how to spark civic engagement amid increased societal polarization, challenges in public civic life, the importance of making civic duties enjoyable, and how digital lives influence political participation. From pivotal issues like minority rule to voter suppression, Sami and Emily offer practical advice and their real-life experience to help us all feel a little better about being more civics-minded and involved. Enjoy! Order Democracy in Retrograde by Sami Sage and Emily Amick here: https://amzn.to/3Y4eP9A Order Kate's NYT Bestselling book, One in a Millennial, here: https://static.macmillan.com/static/smp/one-in-a-millenial/ SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS Now through July 31 you can try 3 months of Audible Premium Plus for ZERO dollars! Gift yourself or someone special an Audible Premium Plus membership today. #CommissionsEarned For understated luxury at its best this spring, shop the must-have pairs of the season and receive 20% off your purchase with code BETHEREINFIVE at marcfisherfootwear.com. Get 10% off your first order sitewide with code BETHEREINFIVE at OSEAMalibu.com. You'll get free samples with every order, and free shipping on orders over $60. Head to OSEAMalibu.com and use code BETHEREINFIVE for 10% off. HyaCera from Ritual is a clinically-proven skin supplement you can actually trust.* Get 25% off your first month for a limited time at ritual.com/BETHEREINFIVE. Start Ritual or add HyaCera to your subscription today. That's ritual.com/BETHEREINFIVE for 25% off.

This week, Kate is deep-diving into America's Sweethearts, a docu-series about the Dallas Cowboys Cheerleaders, which recently debuted on the heels of a canceled reality show Kate had a love/hate relationship with (but watched for 16 seasons): Dallas Cowboys Cheerleaders: Making The Team. Victoria's interview starts at ~1:00:00 In the first hour, Kate reviews the docuseries solo and gives her lukewarm takes about their choice to give up production control, her deep-seated fear of Kelli McGonagill Finglass, the immense talent of the women and impressive legacy of the brand, and DCC being the last frontier of a place that seems to openly discriminates based on body type while asking you to do the most and get paid the least. Additionally, the challenges of professional cheerleading, including mental health struggles, relationship dynamics, body image pressures, compensation issues, and the support systems necessary for resilience In the second hour, Kate is honored to be joined by one of the stars of the docuseries, former 4-year veteran Victoria Kalina, who captivated audiences with her candor about the challenges of a life spent chasing the DCC dream and what navigating sisterhood, mental health, and body image really looks like behind the scenes. She answers all your questions, from who she keeps in touch with, who was really invited to her Tiktok party, the infamous twin bed, the final meeting with Kelli and Judy, finding purpose in sharing about her mental health, the pressure involved with being a legacy, while sharing what she's up to now that she's chosen to build a legacy for herself. Enjoy! SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS Now through July 31 you can try 3 months of Audible for ZERO dollars! Gift yourself or someone special an Audible membership today. #CommissionsEarned Order Kate's NYT Bestselling book, One in a Millennial here! Get your Track Five Chicago July 13 tickets here. Helix is offering up to 30% off all mattress orders AND two free pillows for our listeners! Go to HelixSleep.com/BeThereInFive. This is their best offer yet and it won't last long! With Helix, better sleep starts now. Get healthy, glowing skin for summer with clean, vegan skin and body care from OSEA. Get 10% off your first order sitewide with code BETHEREINFIVE at OSEAMalibu.com. You'll get free samples with every order, and free shipping on orders over $60. Head to OSEAMalibu.com and use code BETHEREINFIVE for 10% off.

This week, we've got a highly anticipated podcast crossover—Jac Vanek, Becca Tobin, and Keltie Knight from LadyGang join Be There in Five! The discussion journeys through their early days of rebranding (IYKYK) to classic millennial nostalgia and the not-so-hidden issues that accompanied some of our favorite pastimes. They discuss dance culture's economic and cultural challenges, the problematic nature of early internet culture (looking at you, AIM chat rooms), and interactions with celebrities from red carpets to IRL sightings. Enjoy! SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS Order Kate's NYT Bestselling book, One in a Millennial, here: https://static.macmillan.com/static/smp/one-in-a-millenial/ Helix is offering up to 30% off all mattress orders AND two free pillows for our listeners! Go to HelixSleep.com/BeThereInFive. That's HelixSleep.com/BeThereInFive. Snap into summer and get 15% off your first Pair with code BTIF at paireyewear.com. Support the show by mentioning that Be There in Five sent you in your post-checkout survey. Honey the book by Isabel Banta is on sale now everywhere books are sold! Tags: Interview, Lady Gang, J.Lo, MySpace, AIM, AOL, red carpet

This week, Kate is answering listener voicemails, like dishing on the culinary delight of buffalo chicken wraps while exploring the dynamics of grilled vs. breaded chicken. Then, she discusses how she thinks people conflate data about screen time overuse with general screen time use and rants about not buying into the "mom guilt." She also delves into hot pop culture topics, including Taylor Swift's chart strategies against artists like Billie Eilish and Charli XCX, and revisits Olivia Rodrigo's song "The Grudge." She also discusses the new "It girls" of pop, like Chappell Roan, Sabrina Carpenter, and Renee Rapp, and finishes answering a question about her plans for Teddy to have siblings. Enjoy! 03:18 Musings of a Buffalo Chicken Wrap Enthusiast 05:14 I don't care what I'm getting; I demand breading 16:21 Screen Time and Parenting 38:11 New Pop "It Girls" - Renee Rapp, Chappell Roan, Sabrina Carpenter 53:07 Charli XCX and the Taylor Swift Chart Controversy 01:30:57 Personal Reflections: Siblings and Parenthood SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS Order Kate's NYT Bestselling book, One in a Millennial here! Right now, BÉIS (base) is offering our listeners 15% off your first purchase by visiting BEISTRAVEL.com/BETHEREINFIVE Sign up for ButcherBox today by going to Butcherbox.com/BETHEREINFIVE and use code BETHEREINFIVE at checkout and enjoy your choice of bone-in chicken thighs, top sirloins, or salmon in every box for an entire year, plus get $20 off! Remember to go to cozyearth.com/bethereinfive to enjoy 30% off using the code BETHEREINFIVE. And after placing your order, select "podcast" in the survey and then select "BETHEREINFIVE" in the dropdown menu that follows. SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS Order Kate's NYT Bestselling book, One in a Millennial here! Right now, BÉIS (base) is offering our listeners 15% off your first purchase by visiting BEISTRAVEL.com/BETHEREINFIVE Sign up for ButcherBox today by going to Butcherbox.com/BETHEREINFIVE and use code BETHEREINFIVE at checkout and enjoy your choice of bone-in chicken thighs, top sirloins, or salmon in every box for an entire year, plus get $20 off! Remember to go to cozyearth.com/bethereinfive to enjoy 30% off using the code BETHEREINFIVE. And after placing your order, select "podcast" in the survey and then select "BETHEREINFIVE" in the dropdown menu that follows.

This week, Kate critiques the stagnant nature of traditional Father's Day gift guides and compares them to the rapidly changing trends for women like "office siren," which leads her to snorkel through the current male microtrend: having a "rat boy summer" or taking on a "rodent boyfriend." She also discusses how aggressive the gals on TikTok are getting about items being on sale and reflects upon why she's being followed by a product called Bovine colostrum. Then, after a detour about irreverent bumper stickers, she formally responds to a clip she heard on New Heights where some of the Kelce's takes about D-COMs were just plain D-wrong, and provides a framework involving DCOM cinema that will help you determine if you're an old or young millennial. She also talks about TV ratings and how naive we can be about what we think is popular versus what's truly mainstream and complains about the Curse of Oak Island doing the least but getting the most ratings relative to ladies like the Housewives whose lives implode on television for meager hype. The conversation also touches on reproductive rights, the volume of IVF-related news this week, and, lastly, celebrates millennial dads breaking traditional molds amid reflections on her own motherhood journey. Kate wraps up by inviting audience feedback for the podcast's future direction in a shifting industry landscape. Can you tell this was AI-generated? Enjoy! 00:37 The Eternal Struggle of Men's Gift Guides 04:06 Micro Trends and Aesthetics for Women 08:35 The Rise of 'Rat Boy Summer' and Male Aesthetics 11:16 The Impact of TikTok Ads and Shopping Trends 30:05 Nostalgic Dive into Disney Channel Original Movies 36:24 Millennial Disney Channel Divides 37:28 High School Musical: A Cultural Shift 44:00 Bumper Stickers That Must Be Stopped 48:09 The Curse of Oak Island: A TV Phenomenon 49:05 TV Ratings and Reality Shows 54:21 Diving into Reproductive Rights 55:50 Navigating Infertility and IVF 01:16:59 The Reality of Parenting and Partnerships 01:17:26 Celebrating Millennial Dads 01:29:13 Podcast Future and Listener Feedback SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS Turn your ordinary water into extraordinary hydration with Liquid I.V. Get 20% off your first order of Liquid I.V. when you go to LIQUID-IV.COM and use code BETHEREINFIVE at checkout. That's 20% off your first order when you shop better hydration today using promo code BETHEREINFIVE at LIQUID-IV.COM. Get healthy, glowing skin for summer with clean, vegan skin and body care from OSEA. Get 10% off your first order sitewide with code BETHEREINFIVE at OSEAMalibu.com. You'll get free samples with every order, and free shipping on orders over $60. Head to OSEAMalibu.com and use code BETHEREINFIVE for 10% off. For understated luxury at its best this spring, shop the must-have pairs of the season and receive 20% off your purchase with code BETHEREINFIVE at marcfisherfootwear.com.

This week, Kate is solo and snorkeling through some of the latest and oldest of topics, like time. She warms up by wandering through things like grandfather clocks, the true crime history of the Magdalene Laundries (aka "Maggies") in Ireland, Harrison Butker's speech, lyrics where people quote Taylor Swift but don't realize she's quoting someone else, and ponders why we treat punctuality like it's an inherent virtue to the human condition when people had no way of knowing the precise time until the 18th century. Then, she crowdsources on IG in real time people's thoughts about having heirlooms as millennials in an era of fast fashion and furniture, highlighting the statement pieces of yesteryear that are incredibly pricey to maintain and whose experts are dying off. Then Kate goes off on a tangent about lucrative niche trade careers, like fixing grandfather clocks and elevator technicians, in case anyone's in the mood for a career pivot. Very random, they can't all be hits, enjoy! Order Kate's NYT Bestselling book, One in a Millennial here! Go to www.cozyearth.com/bethereinfive to enjoy 30% off using the code BETHEREINFIVE. And after placing your order, select "podcast" in the survey and then select "BE THERE IN FIVE" in the dropdown menu that follows. Turn your ordinary water into extraordinary hydration with Liquid I.V. Get 20% off your first order of Liquid I.V. when you go to LIQUID-IV.COM and use code BETHEREINFIVE at checkout. That's 20% off your first order when you shop better hydration today using promo code BETHEREINFIVE at LIQUID-IV.COM. HyaCera from Ritual is a clinically-proven skin supplement you can actually trust.* Get 25% off your first month for a limited time at ritual.com/BETHEREINFIVE. Start Ritual or add HyaCera to your subscription today. That's ritual.com/BETHEREINFIVE for 25% off.

This week, beloved #1 best-selling author Emily Henry (Beach Read, Book Lovers, Happy Place, etc.) is back for Millennial Ennui: the Sequel to chat about her latest romance novel, Funny Story. Kate and Em Hen (she delusionally thinks they're BFFs/on a nickname basis) talk about a variety of topics, from gift shop enthusiasm to the characters we problematically root for in RomComs, to the prevalence of fudge in touristy areas. They also discuss female friendships, what it's like behind-the-scenes to adapt books to the big screen, and explore the intricacies of female characters in Emily's books and the related challenges faced by women in their 30s—touching on breakups, motherhood desires, and societal expectations. The convo also dances through Taylor Swift's songwriting, the struggles of writing deadlines, and the wonders of libraries as havens for diverse stories and support. Enjoy! SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS Order Kate's NYT Bestselling book, One in a Millennial here: https://static.macmillan.com/static/smp/one-in-a-millenial/ Right now, BÉIS is offering our listeners 15% off your first purchase by visiting BEISTRAVEL.com/BETHEREINFIVE. Go to BEISTRAVEL.com/BETHEREINFIVE for 15% off your first purchase. Helix is offering up to 30% off all mattress orders AND two free pillows for our listeners! Go to HelixSleep.com/BeThereInFive. That's HelixSleep.Com/BeThereInFive. This is their best offer yet and it won't last long! With Helix, better sleep starts now. One Pair, infinite possibilities. Go to paireyewear.com and use code BTIF for 15% off your first pair. And support the show by mentioning that Be There in Five sent you in your post-checkout survey! That's paireyewear.com, code BTIF. The Fits Everybody collection is available in sizes XXS to 4X. You can shop now at SKIMS.com. After you place your order, be sure to let them know I sent you! Select "podcast" in the survey and be sure to select my show in the dropdown menu that follows. Tags: Interview, Author, Romance Novels, Emily Henry, RomComs, Taylor Swift, Michigan

This week, Kate's chatting with co-author of the audiobook The Art of Small Talk (also actress, comedian, host of The Deep Dive podcast), Jessica St. Clair. Jessica shares her personal experience with the gift of gab and gives advice about the art of casual conversation, with topics ranging from how to be friendly with neighbors to stories about pleasant celeb run-ins. Overall, a joyful interaction that is essentially a celebration of the joys of everyday interactions. Enjoy! SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS Order Kate's NYT Bestselling book, One in a Millennial here! Sign up at butcherbox.com/BETHEREINFIVE and get our special deal! Butcherbox is offering our listeners a special deal plus $20 off your first order. Join today using my link butcherbox.com/BETHEREINFIVE and use code BETHEREINFIVE receive this unique deal today. Turn your ordinary water into extraordinary hydration with Liquid I.V. Get 20% off your first order of Liquid I.V. when you go to LIQUID-IV.COM and use code BETHEREINFIVE at checkout. That's 20% off your first order when you shop better hydration today using promo code BETHEREINFIVE at LIQUID-IV.COM. Get healthy, glowing skin for summer with clean, vegan skin and body care from OSEA. Get 10% off your first order sitewide with code BETHEREINFIVE at OSEAMalibu.com. You'll get free samples with every order, and free shipping on orders over $60.

This week, Kate interviews podcast listener and NFL WAG Haley Pepper, who shares her experiences with a lot of BTI5 adjacent topics, like pageants, Bama sororities, and being in a relationship with a professional athlete. She discusses the misconceptions and realities of this lifestyle, including the lack of job security, the high expenses, and the pressure of constantly moving and adapting, along with the challenges of motherhood. Enjoy! SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS Order Kate's NYT Bestselling book, One in a Millennial here! Head to cozyearth.com, and use code BETHEREINFIVE to discover your next destination for ultimate comfort with Cozy Earth. Turn your ordinary water into extraordinary hydration with Liquid I.V. Get 20% off your first order of Liquid I.V. when you go to LIQUID-IV.COM and use code BETHEREINFIVE at checkout. Simplify your kiddo's mealtime with 30% OFF your first order. Go to LITTLESPOON.COM/BETHEREINFIVE and enter our code BETHEREINFIVE at checkout to get 30% OFF your first Little Spoon order. For understated luxury at its best this spring, shop the must-have pairs of the season and receive 20% off your purchase with code BETHEREINFIVE

This week, Kate is joined by NYT bestselling romance author Carley Fortune (Meet Me at the Lake, Every Summer After) to discuss her latest book, dropping on May 7th, This Summer Will Be Different. They discuss Carley's former "RomCom job" as an editor at Refinery29 Canada and her pivot to becoming a romance writer, the importance of strong female friendships and real experiences represented in literature, and why Prince Edward Island may be the next hot vacation spot. They also touch on literary tropes, Carley's journey of writing through early motherhood, and how her own life has shaped her storytelling. Then, Kate can't help but fangirl that Meet Me at the Lake has been optioned by Archewell Productions, so she asks if she's met Meg, among other things. No spoilers - Enjoy! SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS Order Kate's NYT Bestselling book, One in a Millennial here: https://static.macmillan.com/static/smp/one-in-a-millenial/ Read "This Summer Will be Different" by Carley Fortune: https://www.carleyfortune.com/this-summer-will-be-different Right now, BÉIS (base) is offering our listeners 15% off your first purchase by visiting BEISTRAVEL.com/BETHEREINFIVE. Get 25% off your first month for a limited time at ritual.com/BETHEREINFIVE. Start Ritual or add HyaCera today. That's ritual.com/BETHEREINFIVE for 25% off. Whether you're off on a grand adventure or just chillin' at home, Cozy Earth has your back (and your bed) covered. Head to cozyearth.com, and use code BETHEREINFIVE to discover your next destination for ultimate comfort with Cozy Earth.

This week, Kate crowdsources stories about attempting to, getting away with, or getting caught consuming age-inappropriate content as a kid and reads brave and inspiring stories from pop culture champions who fought for lyrics that weren't clean and movies only suitable for ages over thirteen. From tales from the locked-and-loaded thumbs on the 'back' button of the remote control to the trials of the photocopiers and/or printers of the lyrics to "What's Your Fantasy," to the tribulations of those who fantasized about being "rubbed the right way" in their Genie in a Bottle era, this episode has something for everybody. If you have a story to share, email [email protected] with the episode title in the subject line. Enjoy! SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS! Order Kate's NYT Bestselling book, One in a Millennial here! For understated luxury at its best this spring, shop the must-have pairs of the season and receive 20% off your purchase with code BETHEREINFIVE at marcfisherfootwear.com. Visit dreamlandbabyco.com and use code BETHEREINFIVE for 20% off, new and existing customers! You can shop now at SKIMS.com. After you place your order, be sure to let them know I sent you! Select "podcast" in the survey and be sure to select my show in the dropdown menu that follows.

First impressions of Taylor Swift's 11th studio album, The Tortured Poets Department. See Kate and her sister Kelly's live reactions in 4 parts on patreon.com/bethereinfive if you're in the crowd and screaming MORE! SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS Order Kate's NYT Bestselling book, One in a Millennial here! Use my link butcherbox.com/BETHEREINFIVE and use code BETHEREINFIVE to get $20 off your first order. That's butcherbox.com/BETHEREINFIVE and code BETHEREINFIVE. Get 20% off your first order of Liquid I.V. when you go to LIQUID-IV.COM and use code BETHEREINFIVE at checkout. That's 20% off your first order when you shop better hydration today using promo code BETHEREINFIVE at LIQUID-IV.COM. Get 10% off your first order sitewide with code BETHEREINFIVE at OSEAMalibu.com. You'll get free samples with every order, and free shipping on orders over $60. Go to paireyewear.com and use code BTIF for 15% off your first pair. And support the show by mentioning that [Be There in Five] sent you in your post-checkout survey!

This week, a magical marvel of a solar event stuns the world, and Kate and Caroline can't be bothered to go outside. Instead, they take a look into their mirrored furniture and do some self-reflection, such as why we always think the current version of ourselves participating in lightning-fast trend turnover is "timeless." They also discuss various topics like avoiding popular movies and tv shows that will bum them out, fast furniture, SoulCycle music, etc. At one point, Kate goes on a rant about the marketing of a denim company that works overtime to remind her she probably hates her body post-baby, and they also spend quite a bit of time going through the Cupcakes & Cashmere archives on the Wayback machine. Enjoy! SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS Order Kate's NYT Bestselling book, One in a Millennial here! Treat yourself to ultimate comfort with Cozy Earth bedding and sleepwear, and prioritize your self-care and sleep health. You deserve it Mom. Head over to cozyearth.com and use promo code BETHEREINFIVE for an exclusive 35% off. The luxury she deserves. Cozy Earth. Helix is offering 20% off all mattress orders AND two free pillows for our listeners! Go to HelixSleep.com.BeThereInFive and use code HELIXPARTNER20. This is their best offer yet and it won't last long! With Helix, better sleep starts now. Take the first step to visibly thicker, healthier hair. For a limited time, Nutrafol is offering our listeners ten dollars off your first month's subscription and free shipping when you go to Nutrafol.com and enter the promo code BETHEREINFIVE. Find out why over 4,500 healthcare professionals and hair stylists recommend Nutrafol for healthier hair. For understated luxury at its best this spring, shop the must-have pairs of the season and receive 20% off your purchase with code BETHEREINFIVE at marcfisherfootwear.com.

This week, Amanda Montell (linguist and bestselling author of Cultish) is back on the pod for the first time since the LuLaRoe deep dive. This time, they're discussing Amanda's new book (out April 9) called The Age of Magical Overthinking, which explores our cognitive biases and the power, disadvantages, and highlights of magical thinking. Broadly defined as the belief that one's internal thoughts can affect unrelated events in the external world, the book (and this episode) examines topics like celebrity worship, manifesting babes, therapy speak, toxic relationships, weaponized nostalgia, conspiracy theories, and other categories where our inner mental gymnasts are doing the most to justify our behavior. Enjoy! SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS Order Kate's NYT Bestselling book, One in a Millennial here! Right now, BÉIS (base) is offering our listeners 15% off your first purchase by visiting BEISTRAVEL.com/BETHEREINFIVE. Go to BEISTRAVEL.com/BETHEREINFIVE for 15% off your first purchase. Get 20% off your first order when you go to LIQUID-IV.COM and use code BETHEREINFIVE at checkout. That's 20% off your first order when you shop better hydration today using promo code BETHEREINFIVE at LIQUID-IV.COM. Get 10% off your first order sitewide with code BETHEREINFIVE at OSEAMalibu.com. You'll get free samples with every order, and free shipping on orders over $60. Get 25% off your first month for a limited time at ritual.com/BETHEREINFIVE. Start Ritual or add HyaCera to your subscription today. That's ritual.com/BETHEREINFIVE for 25% off.

This week, Kate is joined by Cassey Ho, best known for her blog/brand/YouTube channel Blogilates and also for being CEO and lead designer behind her apparel line POPFLEX. As the daughter of Vietnamese immigrants, Cassey's non-negotiable, pre-destined career path was medicine. Despite her dream of becoming a fashion designer being severely suppressed, she found her way out of biology and into design and fitness influencing in the heyday of YouTube and now has amassed millions of subscribers and followers, billions of views, and a wildly successful activewear line (that Kate wears constantly). She also happens to be a Beth, so this combines two series: Under the Influencer & Beths in Show. They dive into her background, her YouTube days, diet culture and body positivity, internet trolls who comment on your body, Popflex crowdsourced product development and design, and Kate even provides her two cents about what she needs in an elusive black one-piece bathing suit and Cassey just might be up for the task. Enjoy! SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS Columbus & Minneapolis tickets for sale Monday 4/1 10 EST at bethereinfive.com/live-shows Order Kate's NYT Bestselling book, One in a Millennial here! Go to dreamlandbabyco.com and enter my code BETHEREINFIVE at checkout to receive 20% off sitewide + free shipping. This offer is for new and existing customers! Prose is SO confident that you'll bring out your best hair and skin that they're offering an exclusive trial offer of FIFTY percent off your first subscription order at PROSE.com/bethereinfive. So you get your FREE consultation, then FIFTY percent off at PROSE.com/bethereinfive. For understated luxury at its best this spring, shop the must-have pairs of the season and receive 20% off your purchase with code BETHEREINFIVE at marcfisherfootwear.com.

This week, Kate solo snorkels through a variety of topics, including but not limited to: Power ranking Ms. Rachel songs Calculating how much money she probs makes Hand-slapping campfire songs as millennial folklore 2000s songs with a maybe problematic cultural flair The Giving Tree is not the vibe Minor controversies with Ms. Rachel's troupe Olivia Rodrigo Concert People don't understand Plan B A Frito Pie/Traveling Nacho hangover Hero school cafeteria lunches Dodgeball as a torture mechanism Wondering if I'd get a boyfriend if I drove a stick And other riveting topics. Kate Middleton news Enjoy! SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS Order Kate's NYT Bestselling book, One in a Millennial here! With ButcherBox, you don't have to worry about what's for dinner. ButcherBox is offering our listeners their choice of a weeknight meal essential—3 lbs of chicken thighs, 2 lbs of ground beef, or 1 lb of premium steak tips—for free in every order for a whole year. Plus, get $20 off your first order. Sign up today at butcherbox.com/BETHEREINFIVE and use code BETHEREINFIVE to choose your free offer and get $20 off. Take the first step to visibly thicker, healthier hair. For a limited time, Nutrafol is offering our listeners ten dollars off your first month's subscription and free shipping when you go to Nutrafol.com and enter the promo code BETHEREINFIVE. Find out why over 4,500 healthcare professionals and hair stylists recommend Nutrafol for healthier hair. The Fits Everybody collection is available in sizes XXS to 4X. You can shop now at SKIMS.com. Plus, get free shipping on orders over seventy five dollars! After you place your order, be sure to let them know I sent you! Select "podcast" in the survey and be sure to select my show in the dropdown menu that follows. Listen to Stars and Stars with Isa wherever you listen to podcasts.

Kate is joined by comedian and TV host Michelle Collins to discuss this week's events and related tangents. They venture into topics such as royal conspiracy theories, Meghan Markle's new business venture, a brief spiral over the 5 hard R sounds in American Riviera Orchard, the Oscars, Cillian Murphy's height, British slang, hair yearbooks, Kate's mom life, and Love is Blind, among other topics. Enjoy! SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS Order Kate's NYT Bestselling book, One in a Millennial here! Right now, BÉIS is offering our listeners 15% off your first purchase by visiting BEISTRAVEL.com/BETHEREINFIVE. Helix is offering 20% off all mattress orders AND two free pillows for our listeners! Go to HelixSleep.com/BeThereInFive and use code HELIXPARTNER20. This is their best offer yet and it won't last long! With Helix, better sleep starts now. However you hydrate, grab your Liquid I.V. Hydration Multiplier Sugar-Free in bulk nationwide at Costco or get 20% off your first order when you go to LIQUID-IV.COM and use code BETHEREINFIVE at checkout. That's 20% off your first order when you shop better hydration today using promo code BETHEREINFIVE at LIQUID-IV.COM. Visualize a fantastic new year with Pair Eyewear. Go to paireyewear.com and use code BTIF for 15% off your first pair. And support the show by mentioning that Be There in Five sent you in your post-checkout survey!

This week, we head back to Plathville because Kate has a very special guest on the podcast: Olivia Plath. Kate and Olivia talk more about her background and upbringing outside of the Plath family, deconstructing fundamentalist Christianity, more about the "courting" phase with Ethan, their political differences that weren't aired, and expands on the MLM/credit card story, among other topics related to the show and Olivia's personal faith journey. Kate also floats her theories about the Barry/Kim dynamic and Olivia reveals more context that happened off-screen that contributed to the tension with her in-laws. Enjoy! SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS Order Kate's NYT Bestselling book, One in a Millennial here! Go to dreamlandbabyco.com and enter my code BETHEREINFIVE at checkout to receive 20% off sitewide + free shipping. This offer is for new and existing customers! Glow from the inside out with clean, vegan skin and body care from OSEA. Get 10% off your first order sitewide with code BETHEREINFIVE at OSEAMalibu.com. You'll get free samples with every order, and free shipping on orders over $60. HyaCera from Ritual is a clinically-proven skin supplement you can actually trust.* Get 25% off your first month for a limited time at ritual.com/BETHEREINFIVE. Start Ritual or add HyaCera to your subscription today.

This week, Kate's solo and back to answering listener voicemails, and each tangent makes less sense than the next. From useless things we learned in school, to mute models and mouth tape, to Wilma Flintstone pioneering statement jewelry, to her journey with tummy time, to an ethical dilemma about using other people's numbers at the grocery store for discounts, to TS album leaks, some midcentury litterbug lore, and more, this episode is a weird one. She had a great time. Enjoy! Call 312.379.9676 to be featured on a future Katelilah. SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS Order Kate's NYT Bestselling book, One in a Millennial here! Right now, Chomps is offering our listeners 20% off your first order and free shipping when you go to Chomps.com/BETHEREINFIVE. Go to Chomps.com/BETHEREINFIVE, to see all the delicious flavors and get 20% off your first order and free shipping. Don't forget to use our link so they know we sent you! Take the first step to visibly thicker, healthier hair. For a limited time, Nutrafol is offering our listeners ten dollars off your first month's subscription and free shipping when you go to Nutrafol.com and enter the promo code BETHEREINFIVE. Find out why over 4,500 healthcare professionals and hair stylists recommend Nutrafol for healthier hair. That's Nutrafol.com, promo code BETHEREINFIVE. Prose is so confident that you'll bring out your best hair and skin that they're offering an exclusive trial offer of FIFTY percent off your first subscription order at PROSE.com/bethereinfive. So you get your FREE consultation, then FIFTY percent off at PROSE.com/bethereinfive.

Three hours, two legal pads of notes, and one millennial whose mom read her book and is now ready to talk about it. After six years, Kate's mom finally graces us with her presence on the Be There in Five podcast main feed. Listen to the third hour on Patreon if you'd like at patreon.com/bethereinfive in the coming days. Enjoy! SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS Order Kate's NYT Bestselling book, One in a Millennial here! Right now, BÉIS (base) is offering our listeners 15% off your first purchase by visiting BEISTRAVEL.com/BETHEREINFIVE. Visualize a fantastic new year with Pair Eyewear. Go to paireyewear.com and use code BTIF for 15% off your first pair. And support the show by mentioning that Be There in Five sent you in your post-checkout survey! Start HyaCera to help minimize wrinkles without compromising on clean science. HyaCera from Ritual is a clinically-proven skin supplement you can actually trust.* Get 20% off your first month for a limited time at ritual.com/BETHEREINFIVE. Start Ritual or add HyaCera to your subscription today.

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