Shocking Research: Parasites Make You Bi, Promiscuous, and Leftist To Spread (Yes This Is Real)

Dive into a mind-bending discussion with Malcolm and Simone Collins as they explore the fascinating—and unsettling—world of disease-based mind control. In this episode, they break down recent research on how parasites and pathogens like toxoplasmosis and certain yeasts may influence human behavior, sexuality, and even cultural trends.

Discover how these microorganisms could be shaping everything from sexual preferences to risk-taking, and why some behaviors that seem purely psychological might actually have a biological origin. The hosts discuss the science, the social implications, and the controversial questions that arise when we consider the possibility that diseases are pulling the strings behind the scenes.

Whether you’re interested in neuroscience, psychology, or just love a good intellectual rabbit hole, this episode will challenge your assumptions and leave you questioning how much of our behavior is truly our own.

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Malcolm Collins: Hello, Simone. Today we are gonna be diving into something that one of our fans sent us. And as I read about this. I was mortified. It appears that toxoplasmosis, remember that thing that everybody knows about from pop culture where it’s something that you can catch from cats and it sort of disorients mice and changes their behavior and makes them more likely to be caught and eaten by cats, thus spreading the cycle of infection.

And people are aware it can spread to humans and slightly change human behavior. Well, there was a study done toxic Plasmosis Gandhi, detailed description of the Conan asexual and sexual development and Cyte sporulation that showed that actually there are a number of variations of this that begin to specialize at targeting specific species.

Not only that, but this paper then goes over other [00:01:00] parasites in diseases that may be modifying. Human sexual behavior so that they can spread more aggressively with a lot of receipts.

Simone Collins: In other words, the diseases are in the driver’s seat of our brains. They are,

Malcolm Collins: Some people’s brains. Yeah, if you’ve been involved, did you know that with, with Toxoplasmosis, before we go into it, it’s already been shown to make males that are infected with it taller and thus more attractive to women, and that.

It can transfer from male to male and male to female, but not female to male.

Simone Collins: That’s right. Because it’s, it’s transferred through sperm.

Malcolm Collins: So yes, so no, but this is wild to me that it is literally creating extra attractive males modifying what arouses them to be more likely to be into gay stuff. So that Well,

Simone Collins: and BDSM in general, just like racy stuff

Malcolm Collins: ish.

Well, [00:02:00] the type of stuff that would involve the types of contact that would spread a disease. But it’s not just that. Did you know that the one of the things we’re gonna be going over is HPV virus you know, the one that you can get from eating girls out. Did you know that it makes you more interested in eating girls out or wanting eaten out?

So when you have HPV, you want guys to eat you out more.

I got in this section wrong from memory. It’s actually yeast infections that caused this.

Malcolm Collins: So we’re gonna go over. Oh,

Simone Collins: that’s interesting. I mean, my generation was the first, our generation was the first to get vaccinated against it. I’m vaccinated against it. You know, the funny thing is I, it was, it was, you know, sold to me of course is like a completely sexless teen.

And I was so enthusiastic about getting it, even though I like basically planned on living a virgin my entire life, but I was still like, I’m so excited to get this vaccine. I just wanted to collect vaccines, gotta catch ‘em all. But I wonder like if the opposite of it is, may have contributed to [00:03:00] my aversion to it or if the default is aversion to it and then if maybe just getting infected with it is the thing that makes this a pervasive.

Now

Malcolm Collins: she hates the idea of somebody eating her out, which works fine for me. No, but actually this is really interesting. So one of the things we’re gonna get to at the end of this piece is sort of a hypothesis on why these one and this isn’t talked about in the piece, but it’s something that we need to talk about ‘cause it’s very germane to our audience.

Mm. Why when the science is beginning to show that this stuff is very likely happening, that some of the degenerate behavior we’re seeing in our society is literally humans being modified by diseases to have unique and differentiated arousal patterns. Mm-hmm. Why aren’t you being told about this? And the answer is fairly obvious.

It would be mortified if you could say, which is one of the things we’re going to talk about is. Same sex attraction may be insert modified by a bacteria or a another form of disease. It may be mortifying to tell somebody that part of your kink profile [00:04:00] is actually just the fact that you had a disease at a young age or even recently.

Simone Collins: One if, if memory serves too. The research found that some of the effects of being infected with toxoplasmosis amplified over time. So the longer you were infected,

Malcolm Collins: yeah, the longer you were

Simone Collins: infected, the worse your reaction times. Which is one of the reasons why

Malcolm Collins: this gets to the thing where somebody can be like, oh, online porn screwed up my brain.

It made me into like really extreme things, and I’ve pointed that the research shows this isn’t actually the case. That online porn does not seem to amplify the weirdness of the things you’re aroused by. It’s just that you become better at finding the stuff that you’re interested in. Mm-hmm. But that it may be the case that what these people actually have and do not realize.

Is a disease that is amplifying the things that they were aroused by.

Simone Collins: Right? Right. Like if that can be the case with toxoplasmosis and reaction times and why is it not the case with Yeah. These other things.

Malcolm Collins: Yeah. And then we’ve gotta start asking, as a society, are orgies a bad idea? Is the way that we are treating sexuality more [00:05:00] broadly in our society a bad idea?

Was it actually good to have prohibitions against the non-VA sex? And well

Simone Collins: also, yeah, this, this changes the way that I think we’re gonna talk with our kids about STDs. ‘cause it’s one thing to be like, oh, you got crabs. Like I just, I remember that Sex in the City episode and it’s just like, like, oh, now I just, kids antibiotics and it sucks, or whatever.

But now it’s like, no, actually this might change your. Your identity, your behavior.

Malcolm Collins: Yeah. In in our generation, we are all terrified of aids, right? And now not, people aren’t afraid of AIDS anymore. People with AIDS are just like, oh, on prep, whatever, right? But by the way, that’s one of the diseases that also changes behavior prep

Simone Collins: is prep is if you wanna avoid aids, isn’t it?

You’re on something else. If you actually

Malcolm Collins: have no prep is if you have, look, it doesn’t matter. The point is, is now people feel that AIDS is in a risk because prep exists. But the point being is that CRF is said on prep. It’s really effed up, like the government pays for it. And the only thing it’s really useful for is people who want to have a lot of sex with non-monogamous partners.

It’s weird. But the point here being is even AIDS seems to affect behavior to help it spread. So we’re [00:06:00] gonna go over this. We’re gonna go over the research of it, but to me, as a kid, this would be even more terrifying than aids. It’s like. You sleep around and a virus is gonna rewrite your brain to turn you into like, a degenerate you know, and, and an idiot.

And it will control your personality. Have fun with that.

Simone Collins: Yeah. Because just to, to be clear, it doesn’t just make med taller and give them behaviors that make them more attractive. It also affects reaction time. So there’s a higher proportion of people who die in, in traffic accidents if they have toxoplasmosis.

And like I mentioned earlier, the reaction time gets worse over time. So, I mean, you don’t want, like, from a safety standpoint, that’s not a good thing. Yes. So, so I’m

Malcolm Collins: skipping a bit into the article to start here.

Okay. Humans can get infected between 13 and 43% of adults 25 years to 50 years of age in Europe with lower rates in North America and higher ones in Brazil and Africa, reman et all 20, 25 some strains.

So, so note if you’re talking in Europe, it’s around 43% of people are [00:07:00] infected at this point. So

Simone Collins: basically half like you, you, you should expect that you’re gonna get infected if you,

Malcolm Collins: if you’re having promiscuous sex. Yes. Yeah. And in, in the United States, the rates are lower though, so keep that

Simone Collins: in mind.

Well, no, but basically if you’re having promi promiscuous sex as a woman, because.

Malcolm Collins: Yeah, but not as a man.

I actually got this wrong when I first read this. , The rates in men are much higher than women, even though men can’t get it from women because bisexuals and gays have so much more promiscuous sex than straight women or men do. , So you’re actually more at risk if this of a man, but only if you are sleeping with other men.

Malcolm Collins: So we’ll get to that in a second. Some strains seem to have adapted specifically to human hosts. One of the three lineages, type two strains are the most common in our species.

They’re also much less lethal than type one, perhaps because they have co-evolved with humans to a greater extent. Dego. Etal 2020. Hasani. Etal 2019, clicks on and Kin 2015. You know what, actually you can just [00:08:00] go to where this paper is if you wanna see all the studies on it. Peter Frost did this piece on his substack.

It’s called Our Tiny Parasites, messing With Our Brains. Think Before You Swallow. No. I, I mean,

Simone Collins: I, I mean surely you’re, you’re being

Malcolm Collins: exposed to you even. No, no. The point I’m making here, the point that he’s making here is one of the lineages is behaving as if it’s adapted to humans already. To be less lethal to a species typically means you are better adapted to spread within that species.

That’s what happens. Diseases don’t want to kill you. That’s typically a very bad thing, and only really happens right after a a disease that’s made the jump from one species to another species. That’s why things like COVID or what was the, the pig flu or the, you know, bird flu or

Simone Collins: swine flu,

Malcolm Collins: whatever, it’s because they just made a jump from one species to another species that they haven’t adjusted to do.

Simone Collins: Sorry.

Malcolm Collins: Okay. Infectious causes mental and behavioral changes to humans with other as with other animals, men become more jealous, women more easygoing, [00:09:00] and most sexes respond to threats as shown by a high risk of traffic accidents and longer reaction time show less risk to threats. Oh. So that’s interesting.

It basically makes men into terrible polyamorous partners and women more likely to be okay with their partners sleeping around.

Simone Collins: Yeah. I mean that makes, that would, that would work.

Malcolm Collins: That would help spread the disease. Yeah,

Simone Collins: that would do it.

Malcolm Collins: The last Friday finding proves the direction of causality.

The longer you have been affected, the lower you react. Slower reaction time does not increase your risk of infection. So, so it’s not that these people are less prone to risk, that makes them more likely. It’s the longer you infect, the worse this outcome gets. And it might be the case with these other pathogens we’re gonna talk about.

And there’s four studies. Well, it

Simone Collins: makes sense if it’s, isn’t it like brain lesions that’s causing this? So also you’re sort of like

Malcolm Collins: ossifying. It changes, it changes based on the infection type.

Simone Collins: Oh,

Malcolm Collins: okay. So some things use brain lesions, some things use blood restrictions. Some things use fake neuro, neuro transistors.

It’s different Anyway. At the extremes of sexual behavior, infected individuals, [00:10:00] particularly men, feel more drawn to masochism, great fantasies, bondage same-sex experiences, and anal women with a latent toxoplasmosis also report feeling more drawn to violent sexual practices and same-sex experiences. But such fantasies are, if anything less often acted out by infected individuals.

Real changes to sexual behavior seem confined to a greater propensity for sexual promiscuity, oral sex, and among male homosexuals, anal sex. And there’s five studies that show this. By the way, this is not like fringe science here. Okay?

Yeah.

Tandja, and again, you go to the original substack if you wanna find links to all these, you guys don’t wanna hear me struggling to pronounce a bunch of names.

That matters to the one nerd who feels the need to fact check everything. T Gandhi eye manipulates not only behavior, but also physical appearance affected men are taller and women rate them as being more dominant and masculine looking infected. Men also have lower second to fourth digit ratios, a sign of greater [00:11:00] exposure to male hormones.

And there are four studies that show this. The physical manipulation is in line with a strategy of making infected males more attractive to per to prospective hosts study. Can this behavioral and physical manipulation be demonstrated under controlled conditions? Such research would be difficult because we cannot experiment with humans as we do as lab animals.

Humans also live long decades may pass between the initial infection and the ultimate payoff by the parasite. Two studies showing this. Nonetheless, a group of Czech researchers is convinced that some strains of TIG GHI have involved the ability to manipulate human behavior, specifically sex infected men, not only seek out more sexual partners, but also engage in sexual practices that transmit the parasite more efficiently.

IE into the partner’s oral cavity or anal canal. The existing host gets no reproductive benefit. In fact, his fertility is reduced through lower sperm counts and lower sperm motility. Isn’t

Simone Collins: that crazy? Yeah. You’d be like, oh, well. No, no.

Malcolm Collins: Well, also, he’s gonna [00:12:00] go on here and show that this may explain cuing behavior and other behavior that doesn’t seem to make sense.

And, and, and a preference for oral sex, which also does not really help you reproduce, right? That’s

Simone Collins: true. Yeah. Yeah.

Malcolm Collins: Why, why do some people have oral preference? This may explain it. Mm-hmm. Oh, we’re not supposed. Talk about this.

Simone Collins: Mm-hmm.

Malcolm Collins: But isn’t it kind of crazy that like a portion of society, particularly like the urban monoculture sex pest, may just be basically a disease behind the control, like driving human, like, you know, the little mouse inside the, the human

Simone Collins: Oh boy.

Malcolm Collins: Arguing for its own benefit. You know, when I see people, like there was recently, and we might do a full episode on this. You know, an individual like the one, the, the trans woman who runs philosophy tube, like giving this long, really poorly sought through, like she seems to get dumber every year sought through of why Tism doesn’t make sense and we don’t need to worry about this.

I’m like, but you’re like a manifestation of a human Darwin award. Like you’re not [00:13:00] part of human civilization anymore. You are not, you know, you don’t have any descendants to care about. Like, it doesn’t matter to you that your advice is so bad and will have such long-term negative ramifications for humanity.

But it might be that when I was trying to model her behavior, I shouldn’t be modeling her behavior, but the parasites that are driving it. And that is wild that I’ve realized like, oh my God, that that changes the way I have to attempt to model ultra urban monoculture people.

Simone Collins: Well, you’ve always referred to the urban monocultures being akin to being infected with well, a mimetic virus.

Right. But now it’s like, oh wait, they’re actual.

Malcolm Collins: No, no, no. But here’s the thing. If a virus in parasites increased the spread of the urban monoculture, the urban monoculture would adopt practices that increase the spread of the virus. Sure. ‘cause it would be a symbiotic cycle. So we might actually have some of these viruses or, or parasites that are working with the urban monoculture to genuinely turn the people infected [00:14:00] into puppets.

Mm-hmm. And as you walk around society and you say, oh my God, the people I’m interacting with seem more and more like puppets every day. They might be t Gandhi cyst in mouse brain. We know that Tig Gandhi is present in male ejaculate as cysts containing thousands of spores. There is a study here.

We also know that cyst spread from one body to another through fellatio anal sex and vaginal sex. The transmissions rates in male to female or male to male, but not male to male. And then two, studies show this as, as I mentioned earlier, sexual transmission, particularly from the male host, is indicated by several lines of evidence.

In heterosexual couples, an infected male partner increases the female partner’s risk of infection. But an infected female partner did not increase the male partner’s risk of infection in women. The risk of infection correlates with sex work, unprotected sex before pregnancy, and a history of genital injuries in men.

It correlates with sexual promiscuity and in male homosexuals with unprotected anal sex. Several. [00:15:00] Severe prevalence of t Gandhi is higher inflating individuals of either sex than in non-filing controls. Several prevalence is higher in, I don’t like that he uses homosexuals. That’s a sort of outdated word male gaze.

And promiscuous individuals several prevalence is positively correlated with prevalence of STDs across countries, including HIV. Several prevalence is, oh, interesting. That would explain why it’s higher in Africa and potentially why it’s higher in Europe, although I think it might just be sort of co-variant with the urban monoculture or sort of symbiotic.

And we might be seeing this, you know, it makes people less prone to threats so they don’t understand, oh my God, bringing all these people who keep griping people in my country might not be a good idea. It makes it so that you cannot see the threats around you. Right?

Simone Collins: Hmm.

Malcolm Collins: The gender difference emerges in the 10 to 14 age group and peaks among 20 to 39 year olds. Three studies show this. I’m gonna explain why that’s important right now.

Here is again where I made the mistake that I assumed because it can only transfer [00:16:00] from men to other genders, , or to other men, either men or women, that it would be more prevalent in women. But no, actually the gender imbalance is that it is more prevalent in men than women because even though there are fewer gays and bisexuals, they just have that much more sex and that much more of the type of sex that can lead to transfer.

Malcolm Collins: It doesn’t become more prevalent in women until you hit about 14 years of age IE until when some people begin to become more sexually active. Mm-hmm. Especially sexually promiscuous people. So to continue here, te g Dii seems to have become sexually transmissible through three stages of coevolution with our species entry into a human population, apparently via contact with cats.

This animal began to coexist with humans some 10,000 years ago in the Middle East study passive sexual transmission. Te g DII could now spread to new human hosts via intimate contact, including sex, but without any behavioral modification of the host. Natural selection thus favored adaptation to life within human bodies.

Even though the final stage of the parasites lifecycle, [00:17:00] sexual reproduction remained within cap bodies. Nonetheless, Tigand could evolve through mutations during asexual reproduction and therefore para sexual recombination like events. It’s study active sexual transmission Natural selection increasingly favored sexual transmission by modifying the host behavior.

Again, this evolution may have been speeded up by genetic recombination, was in cat bodies via transmission from human to cats back again. And I’ll note here, while this entered human population 10,000 years ago, I do not think it evolving a specialty for spreading was in human populations really begin to have significant benefits for spread or have an evolutionary reason for it until about the last 40 years because promiscuous sex was just not that common before then.

So wouldn’t have been a, an effective transmission vehicle, nor was male to male sext or bisexual males which seems to be, or at least a normalization of this behavior, which seems [00:18:00] to be of high utility to getting this to spread.

Simone Collins: Hmm.

Malcolm Collins: You can see why the urban monoculture is not talking about all of these studies.

We are only now realizing Thatt Gandhi is sexually transmitted for many, if not most academics. The dominant view is that Tig Gandhi is transmitted mainly through contaminant food or water through contact with cats. Yeah. From this perspective, sexual transmission by male hosts is seen as a minor importance, yet look at the huge gender differentiation.

We basically know it’s definitely in part gender transmitted now

Simone Collins: Well, and if 45% of people in Europe are infected in it, I mean the, the, the pervasive understanding when we were younger, even in our young adulthood was like, well, if you have cats, just use a respirator when you change their litter in the litter box and you’ll be fine.

But no, it’s not a litter box problem.

Malcolm Collins: No. Yeah, so I, I it’s, it is also not just that the fact that the study showed, as I pointed out, that men who are dating or married to a woman was this, have [00:19:00] no higher rate of having it, but women who are dating or married to a man was that have a much higher rate of having it.

Yeah. Is basically, to me all the proof I need that people who practice fellatio have a much higher rate of it than people who don’t practice CIO

Simone Collins: well. But also as if you’re having any form of ejaculated intimacy with a man as a woman, you’re gonna get it.

Malcolm Collins: Yeah. Well they gaze do have significantly higher rate of it if they have unprotected sex.

Simone Collins: Yeah. But that’s again, ejaculated. Intimacy.

Malcolm Collins: Yeah. Yeah. But I’m basically saying that we have confirmation of this. This isn’t like some weird theory at this point. Yeah. We know it’s being sexually transmitted, and it has adapted to this as one of the primary means of its transmission.

Simone Collins: Mm-hmm.

Malcolm Collins: Yet it is sufficiently common to distort the sex ratio among infected individuals, apparently through male to male transmission.

In Italy, the prevalence of recent infection was higher in men than in women. A twofold attack rate was detected in males compared to females in the ages of 25 to 35 years.

In Germany. Male gender keeping cats and [00:20:00] BMI were independent risk factors for positivity. Study here. So

Simone Collins: sero positivity. So

Malcolm Collins: wait, Simone, this is actually really important. This means in Germany having cats is not relevant to your probability of catching this.

That is how much it has adapted to a sexual transmission lifestyle with the, that’s

Simone Collins: crazy. Yeah.

Malcolm Collins: In the United States, risk for IgG or positivity, that’s Gandhi eye increased with age and was higher in males Jones etal. I, in the case of workers occupationally exposed to animals in meta-analysis of 66 studies found a prevalence of 63% among male workers and 37% among female workers.

Simone Collins: Yeah. Well, and I also wanna point out, because he, he points to seven in the piece and it, I think it’s notable just in terms of how impressive this spread is, is toxoplasmosis does not reproduce in humans.

It can only reproduce in cats. So the way it uses humans is basically a means of getting to the next cat. And it can go from human to [00:21:00] human, so it can go from human to human, it can travel along, but it can’t. Reproduce

Malcolm Collins: actually I think you misunderstood what he was saying. Really. I’m not gonna read this section where he explains this again, but he explains that it has various parts of its reproductive cycle.

It can’t complete its normal reproductive cycle if it’s only using human hosts. But if it’s doing some of the types of asexual reproduction, it does, it can reproduce only in human hosts and you could get a human only specialist variant of it.

Simone Collins: Oh, okay, okay. Okay. I didn’t, I didn’t catch that.

Malcolm Collins: Even though the final stage of the parasites lifecycle, sexual reproduction remained within cap bodies. Nonetheless, Tigand could evolve through mutations during asexual reproduction and therefore para sexual recombination like events.

And we might have already seen that.

Simone Collins: Oh, so it’s not certain. It may have been

Malcolm Collins: happening. It’s not certain that it is human only and it’s reproductive cycle now. But there might be variants of it that are almost human only in the reproductive cycle. Okay. And it very only rarely use cats at this point.

Simone Collins: Mm. Okay.

Malcolm Collins: This is something you find in [00:22:00] some species where you can have asexual reproduction in some environments, but sexual reproduction requires other environments.

Don’t need to go into that. Nonetheless, sexual transmission of tigand DII will likely continue to be downplayed. This is largely due to a research bias towards obvious STDs, IE those which produce symptoms soon after infection and are easily observable and develop over a short time. But these characteristics are not optimal for infection of a long-lived species like ours.

In such species harming the host reduces the prospects of infection of new hosts over a potentially long time. Basically, I just think he’s wrong here about what he’s saying here. He says, the reason we aren’t studying it is because it’s not more loud sort of in its effects over a short period of time.

I think it’s because it would be incredibly damaging to the urban monoculture in many protected groups. If you could be like, Hey, you don’t have a sexuality, you have a disease or a parasite that is controlling you and attempting to use your behavior to affect me or my children or, you know, the, the still unaffected members of society we’re literally going up.[00:23:00]

What, what, what are we, what are we going down here? Some sort of like, slutty zombie virus.

Simone Collins: Yeah,

Malcolm Collins: it is, it is actually like, okay, there’s a thing. I mean,

Simone Collins: come on. Classic trope. It’s the, the slutty monster. So, so

Malcolm Collins: good. No, no, no, no. There’s actually like a trope. One of the scenarios that I often see near the tops of AI chatbot sites, which we have, and it’s getting better.

We’re getting closer to having a really solid one, but it’s been really up and down for a while here. Our fab ai, but I don’t know if we have one on our platform. You can make whatever you want, but it’s on a lot of the other platforms is there’s a disease that’s going around that turns people in to like very sexually aggressive like, and that’s all they can think about.

And it’s a, a version of a zombie apocalypse that apparently some people like get off to. And that’s what’s actually happening in our society right now when you’re dealing with these very aggressive sex pets. Okay. Are other parasites messing with our sex lives? T Gandhi might be one of many microorganisms that evolved [00:24:00] to manipulate human behavior.

So, I’m gonna skip a bit here. Let’s go to HIV, right? HIV associated neurocognitive disorders called hand. Although HIV, associated Neurocognitive disorders hand are widely attributed to HIV and the relationship between the two remain circumstantial, in fact, hand occurs even in individuals who have lost all detectable traces of HIV through antiretroviral therapy.

Mm-hmm. So even if you’re on prep, you’re gonna have these brain changes. Wow. One study found that 21% of such individuals nonetheless go on to develop dementia. I didn’t know that study. The causal agent seems to exist as an AIDS co-factor, not by making an HIV infection worse, but by increasing the host’s appetite for behaviors that increase the risk of HIV infection.

Mm-hmm. This co-factor may be hiding in plain sight among opportunistic infections currently blamed for the host compromised immune system. While such infections primarily target the lungs, the brain is the second most common target. And the cites two studies here, [00:25:00] the existence of brain manipulating co-factor is consistent with the profile of AIDS victims study in, Bulgaria, Italy and that co country AIDS is transmitted mainly via intravenous drug use, yet transmission via gaze and bisexuality is 10 times more associated with cognitive impairment.

Oh, interesting. Two studies.

This might be a different, so just so you can understand what he’s saying here, is there maybe a different strain of it that is specialized at transmitting via gaze and bisexuals than it is altering sexual behavior? Certainly AIDS does impair cognition as shown by the association between low white cell camps in hand in the bulia study.

But some co-factor may also be impairing cognition via the gay bisexuality root. The co-factor might be hepatitis C virus, HVH. Oh, he’s arguing. It’s a different thing. He’s arguing. It’s using other diseases to impact your brain. Mm-hmm. Weird. Anyway, HCV in a large cohort of peach was HIV. The risk of hand was higher.

Among [00:26:00] those was antibodies to HCV and then he gives a study here. I’d argue that it might be that there’s just different strains that are specializing in drug users versus gays. By the way, people will say that you cannot get diseases that evolve this quickly in human populations due to our long lifespans, which is just.

Factually wrong. There’s been many species that have specialized in humans. We literally just watched COVID adapt itself through multiple iterations, only over a period of a few years to human hosts. That is why it is so much less virulent and deadly now than it used to be, because it has adapted itself to human hosts.

Anyone who says you a disease cannot quickly adapt its behavior to human hosts is lying to you. When they say, oh, well, it can’t adapt itself to affect human brains because human brains are so complex. It’s like, no. There are lots of complex things that you can affect through fairly simple actions.

Suppose I wanted to affect the behavior of a computer, right? And I could, I only had a fairly simple action. I could throw [00:27:00] sand into one of the components, right? There are a number of components within a computer that I could throw sand into and very confidently affect its behavior in specific ways.

The idea that you can’t affect the human brain by basically throwing sand in different parts of it, and keep in mind it’s not even that bad. It can just create neurotransmitter analogs, which we’ve already seen from some of these parasites. It can create lesions, which we have already measured from this.

Like, I don’t understand how you could argue that unless you’re just desperate to say no one in society is a puppet of a parasite.

Simone Collins: I mean,

Malcolm Collins: okay, let’s talk about sexually transmissible strains of candy acus. This is a, vaginal yeast candy. Oh,

Simone Collins: yeast infections.

Malcolm Collins: Oh, that’s, oh, this might’ve been what I was thinking.

Instead of just yeast

Simone Collins: infections.

Malcolm Collins: Yeah. Yeah. Candy has been implicated in, so it’s, it’s,

candy has been implicated in several neurodegenerative diseases, notably Alzheimer’s multiple sclerosis and autism spectrum disorders.

Yikes. It just evolves [00:28:00] the ability to cross the blood-brain barrier and adhere to tissue in the central nervous system, particularly white matter. Yeah. Because of the antibody. Cross reactivity. The actual candy species is difficult to identify, though. See, applicants is the main suspect to studies here.

Now, note here, what he’s pointing out here is we know that it can cross the blood brainin barrier and interact with your brain. Okay? That’s, that’s not an easy thing for something like this to do. And it evolved that. Why did it evolve? This ability? Well, it must have wanted to mess with your behavior in some way.

So he says, well, it’s,

Simone Collins: it, it, it’s neurodegenerative.

Malcolm Collins: Well, we know it has that behavior, but that’s probably a side effect of the throwing the sand in the machinery.

Simone Collins: Well, yeah, I’m, I’m just thinking about, there was this trend at one point where you women were using their vaginal yeast and recipes, so, trying not to vomit while also wondering if there was some kind of neuro degenerative thing going on.

Well,

Malcolm Collins: Simone, these women already had the neurodegenerative effects. It makes sense when you think about what they were doing.

Simone Collins: Mm, yeah.

Malcolm Collins: All right. [00:29:00] Keep in mind that c applicants encompasses many strains that differ substantially from each other in various ways. Single nucleotide polymorphisms, inversions, copy number changes, loss of heterozygosity and the whole, or p partial chromosomal amyloids.

At least one of these changes is responsible for altering the balance between communalism and perh. Agenesis and then he has two studies here. See, ANESS can colonize many body sites, but some strains have adapted specifically to the vagina. If you are responsible for vulva, vagina, canis VVC, commonly known as vaginal yeast infection, which affects 70% to 75% of sexually active women, and at least five to 8% recurrently.

Many give the study here in China, two strains account for almost 60% of all VBC cases with neither being present in extra vaginal sites. He has a study here. Sexual transmission is indicated by several lines of evidence. Once vaginal infection develops, it can spread to male partners [00:30:00] glands or penis via vaginal sex or to his oral cavity via Kana Lingus.

Two studies here, the same strains seem to infect both the vagina and the glands penis. Two studies here in both men and women, genital yeast infections are associated with higher number of sexual partners study here. There seems to have been selection for sexually transmissible, particularly via oral sex.

Vaginal strains adhere better than others. Strains, tooth saliva coated surfaces. Once study here, can

Simone Collins: we just tell our boys to like, not go down on women?

Malcolm Collins: That’s what I would tell ‘em. Yeah.

Simone Collins: Just don’t do it. Don’t do it. No.

Malcolm Collins: Tell our daughters, don’t get into that, that’s bad. You’re gonna become a transmission of diseases anyway, transmission in women to man and not man to man, to woman sorry.

Transmission is from woman to man and not from man to woman. Infected people do not have a higher rate of vaginal sex, but they do have a higher rate of oral sex. Notably Ka [00:31:00] Lingus two studies. So women who get this have a higher rate of wanting ka linguists. Isn’t that wild?

Simone Collins: You know what I’m also thinking though, which I think is, is interesting here is I feel like romantic books are more popular among progressives, right?

Malcolm Collins: Yeah.

Simone Collins: There they all are also pretty devoid of, we’ll say, normal reproductive sex and riddled with congas.

Malcolm Collins: That

Simone Collins: is true. Could this be a sign of. Selective disease spread within this particular group where like they’re quite obsessed and fixated on men going down on them because it really shows up disproportionately in these books to the point where, yeah, you were never sexually

Malcolm Collins: promiscuous and you’ve always hated

Simone Collins: the idea.

Yeah, and I, I just, I, I, I find it interesting ‘cause I also find it very perplexing when like, there’s supposed to be like, there’s supposed to be romance novels and, and one would assume that there would be sex in [00:32:00] romance novels and there’s. Beyond men going down on women, not any. And that just was really confusing, that fascinating

Malcolm Collins: theory here.

I wanna give you another theory.

Simone Collins: Okay?

Malcolm Collins: After a woman has been cooked, like one of these women goes out there, spends their whole life sleeping around, dedicates their life to the urban monoculture, then they get old, they don’t find a partner. Then they surround themselves with cats to complete the breeding cycle.

This is not, we should accomplished what more, but for making them undesirable. Childless

Simone Collins: cat ladies,

Malcolm Collins: which

Simone Collins: disease?

Malcolm Collins: The behavior of acquiring tons of cats. The cat ladies are literally just breeding sites of toxic plasmosis after it cooks their brain.

Simone Collins: Right? So women went from being tools of the patriarchy to tools of the,

Malcolm Collins: of the parasite.

Simone Collins: The, the fe anarchy. The, yeah. No, not even that. Not even the cats. But the parasites of the cats that the lowest of the low. Oh.

Malcolm Collins: When you, you talk to these [00:33:00] people, you’d be like, I don’t have to listen to a host like your host. Like Mindset is getting

Simone Collins: to me

Malcolm Collins: right

Simone Collins: now. They traded the patriarchy, which is built civilization for.

A cat parasite

Malcolm Collins: for No, yeah, A cat parasite to help breed a cat parasite.

Simone Collins: Oh my God. That’s crazy. That’s wild.

Malcolm Collins: No, no, no. We need to start calling cat ladies the host.

Simone Collins: No,

Malcolm Collins: you cannot allow the host to breathe. Like when they come near you, you’ve gotta like hide your face a bit, you know, like,

Simone Collins: yes. Oh man.

Malcolm Collins: Alright.

See applicants in the male partners oral cavity does not predict recurrence of VVC in female partners. Study and treatment of the male partner with antifungals does not prevent recurrence of VVC in the female partners. Two studies. It looks as if the parasite is acting on the female partner, specifically on her sexual behavior by weakening her inhibitions and motivating her to encourage.

In vaginal contact with the male partner’s body, particularly his mouse infection seems to proceed in three [00:34:00] stages. One, colonization of the vagina as commensal with low virulence and no VVC potentially for long period of related latency. Two colonization of the brain sites that influence sexual behavior.

And three, activation of the most virulent stage I-E-V-V-C when the pathogen can now spread to the male partner. And keep in mind, the end state of this is you know, Alzheimer’s, mo squirrel, you know, various forms of, of neurodegenerative disease. I think it’s Parkinson’s. Like, it’s not good. You’re, you’re cooking your brain.

It’s, it’s cooking your brain because it doesn’t care about you living forever. I mean, after when you’re an old person and you’re only having sex with other people who are about to die, you’ve, you’ve gone out of its lifecycle. Its lifecycle is, use you for sleeping around when you’re young. Use you for cats when you’re middle age.

It’s like this collection of diseases. And then dispose of you. All right. Let’s get to multiple sclerosis here. Oh, no. This disease can cause lesions throughout the nervous system, but a recurring symptom is an impairment of social cognition through damage of the limbic system, particularly the amygdala.

[00:35:00] For studies here, as we have seen with cheek ondy eye, this brain region is PRI primary target of manipulation of behavior. Multiple sclerosis. MS appears to be associated with a fungal parasite that infiltrates the brain and nervous system, perhaps a form of coni in people with ms. The association is indicated by antibodies against candy species.

So I didn’t know this by the way, so, so. If you have ms, you’re gonna have higher levels of antibodies against the candy species. High levels of immune defense, proteins that bind to manna proteins which are ubiquitous in fungal cell walls, but rare in bacterial or mammalian cell walls, high levels of chito days, which the immune system produces to destroy chitin, a component of fungal cell walls, but not a bacterial or mammal cell walls.

Successful treatment of MS with fungicide derin from, this is one study that showed this MS seems to be sexually transmitted. It is rare before purity, but two to three times more common in women more [00:36:00] commonly in women taking oral contraceptives and associated with smoking a sociological marcher of sexual activity in women.

By the way, you know what my mom used to say about women who smoke?

Simone Collins: Wait. If women smoke, they’re also more likely to be sexually active.

Malcolm Collins: Do you know what my mom used to say about women who smoked?

Simone Collins: No,

Malcolm Collins: she, all the time when I was growing up. Okay. When she, she was like, oh, you know, if you wanna hit on women, always remember if she smokes, she pokes.

Simone Collins: She just had the best wine,

Malcolm Collins: basically. I love it. We’re just going over all my mom’s offensive, you know, now that she’s not alive anymore and doesn’t watch the podcast every day she doesn’t know that I’m now telling you all of her secret wisdoms. Which, which turned out to be largely true like lesbian.

We’re

Simone Collins: quoting her in our house every day.

Malcolm Collins: Bisexual. If she smokes, she pokes.

Simone Collins: And what did she also say about girls and second dates though? Yeah.

Malcolm Collins: Oh, she said if a woman has not slept with you or gone down on you by the third date, she’s playing around dumper. And I will note [00:37:00] this is actually kind of true, even if you’re the type who’s likely gonna get married to somebody.

Mm. Unless you’re within a community where almost nobody sleeps around because like Simone, you had slept with me by, what was it, date four?

Simone Collins: No, no, no, no. I have it in our calendar. It was Yuri’s night when we

Malcolm Collins: Yeah. But it wasn’t that long into our dating, even though I was the first person you slept with, it was still only like week two of dating or week three of dating.

Simone Collins: No, no, no, no. It was, I can check the dates if you want.

Malcolm Collins: Well, that doesn’t help much because we lived literally two and a half hours apart, so we

Simone Collins: didn’t I know it, it was, yeah, it was difficult. It was difficult. But yeah, no, it, I mean like, I was ready to, I’m like, I was on a mission. I’d fall in love and had my heart broken in one year.

It’s not like I was waiting. So,

Malcolm Collins: But the point being is, is she, she, she didn’t have these opinions ‘cause she was very conservative. I’ll note that. Yes. She was, she was like very, for example.

Simone Collins: Yeah.

Malcolm Collins: Because she had a friend who was gay who died of AIDS when she was young. You know, back when that was a thing.

So she was part of like that generation of pro gay culture. Your mom,

What? Yeah, my mom. Yeah. [00:38:00] By the way speaking of, I have seen this comedian and he made this point that I had never thought of before and I’m wanna move to this, which is to say when people are like, oh, are you only pro LGB? And not t I’m like, no, I’m just pro-gay.

Okay.

Simone Collins: That’s true.

Malcolm Collins: I, I, I look lesbians are just gays. If you sleep with the same sex, sometimes you’re just gay. Gay bisexual is just a subcategory of gay. Can we just go back to being, defending gay rights instead of all this other nonsense. But even that, I now have to question given all of the, because I didn’t know that there was any like really negative effects.

If we’re getting a species and, and if this is happening, if we’re getting species that recently have adopted to use same sex attracted populations as part of their lifecycle and are altering human behavior in a way that’s maladaptive this might mean that I would be significantly stricter with my kids and I will be, because of this information about saying you really probably shouldn’t engage in [00:39:00] same sex behavior, even if that’s something that you’re into.

Simone Collins: I don’t know. I sort of like, I, I don’t, I, I feel very conflicted about, I mean, gay figures throughout history have contributed quite a lot to culture, to religion, to fashion.

Malcolm Collins: I agree with that, but the, the larger thing is, is in history, when they did this, it was still considered a kink. It wasn’t considered part of their identity.

It was considered not, you mean

Simone Collins: these days, and we still have great gay contributors to

Malcolm Collins: society. Right? Right. The point I’m making is if you consider being gay, just another kink that you should probably not engage with, but some people will. Oh. So if, if you go back to these periods where you have these great gay contributions, you know, if you’re, if you’re talking about like the late medieval period or something like that, or, or Renaissance period you know, being gay was c