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Epstein Might Be Alive: What Everyone Is Missing

Epstein Might Be Alive: What Everyone Is Missing

Based Camp | Simone & Malcolm Collins · Based Camp | Simone & Malcolm

February 9, 20261h 13m

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Show Notes

This is the episode’s “smoking gun,” and it’s legitimately intriguing. The post—made around 40 minutes before Epstein’s death was publicly announced—describes him being wheeled out in a wheelchair after a 4:15 a.m. inmate count, with an unauthorized van arriving and no real hospital interaction. The files confirm the poster was Roberto Grijalva, a lieutenant corrections officer at the Metropolitan Correctional Center (MCC) on duty that night. Subpoenas to 4chan, Apple, AT&T, and Citibank traced it back to him via bank and IP records.

What’s wild:

* Grijalva wasn’t some random troll; he was actively doing his job, as evidenced by his August 12, 2019, memo to the warden noting Epstein needed a cellmate (per suicide risk protocols) after his previous one (Efrain Reyes) was transferred out the day before.

* The feds went all-in to ID him (grand jury probe the day after Epstein’s death), but there’s no record of follow-up interviews, charges, or discipline tied to the post. It just... stops. If this was a genuine investigation into leaks or irregularities, why drop it once they found a credible insider?

* Counterfactuals here make sense: If it was a cover-up, they’d want to silence potential witnesses. Grijalva continued at MCC until its 2021 closure but hasn’t worked since—could be a payout, retirement, or something else. No freak accidents reported, at least.

This raises real questions about MCC negligence (or worse). Official probes (2023 DOJ IG report) blamed guards for falsifying logs and sleeping, but the lack of scrutiny on Grijalva feels off. It’s not “bulletproof” proof Epstein’s alive, but it screams active suppression of info. Props to the hosts for spotlighting this—it’s under-discussed compared to flashier theories.[00:00:00]

Malcolm Collins: Hello Simone. I’m excited to be here with you today. Today we’re going to be talking about Epstein and if he is actually dead, as well as some other updates from the Epstein files that we didn’t cover in our last video.

And again, it’s a case of I decided to go into this. I decided to research this, and the claims and evidence I have seen pushed around for him not being dead, like the popular conspiracy theories, the tattoo one, the Fortnite one they’re generally pretty bad as as, as far as evidence goes. Oh. However I found a new one, or it’s not entirely new, but it’s mostly something that it’s not focused on that I think is, is near Bulletproof.

Maybe not that he’s not dead, but that there is an active coverup of something tied to his death. And I would start by by going into that one. Yeah. But before I get to that, I also just wanted to briefly cover. One thing that’s really been annoying me is people keep being like, well, Stephen [00:01:00] Hawkings in the Epstein files.

And it’s like, no, Stephen Hawkings went to Epstein Island for like a big scientist conference thing. It, there is no evidence at all that he was involved in anything sexual there. And like, how do you even broach that with Stephen Hawking, like,

Simone Collins: yeah, in the rig? How do you do it?

Malcolm Collins: Even if you are interested in trying to entrap people and stuff like that, if you get Stephen Hawking to come to your island, just use it for the clout and don’t, you know, risk him because you can’t disappear Stephen Hawking if he turns out to like, not be into this.

Right. Like,

Simone Collins: not be into it.

Malcolm Collins: The, I I, I see no evidence there. Where I do see very strong evidence is Steve Bannon. And if we have time at the end of this, I’ll go into Steve Bannon more.

Simone Collins: Okay.

Malcolm Collins: Because wow. And I’ve always said that he was a complete swamp creature. And some people were like, oh, Malcolm, you should be nicer.

He’s done a lot for the conservative movement. And I’m like, no. He, he functionally hasn’t, he’s actually done a lot of damage to the conservative movement. He’s, he’s probably about as bad as Ben [00:02:00] Shapiro if not a little worse because he has actively prevented some political things from getting done.

Yeah. Just to play his, his swamp game. And he’s

Simone Collins: swamp game.

Malcolm Collins: He seems to be a less ethical person than Ben Shapiro, which is saying a lot. Ben Shapiro, I think is just sort of a weasel, but he doesn’t seem to be like, actively, like, I’m gonna go out and do evil things. Whereas Steve Bannon is more like in the latter category, and we can get to that on the Steve Bannon parts of this.

Simone Collins: So

Malcolm Collins: we

Simone Collins: stopped trying to be nice to people, apparently.

Malcolm Collins: Well, he is never done anything for us, and we’ve been on the scene for a while at this point. You know, I, I don’t, don’t try to rehabilitate, you know, Epstein after you know everything he’s done. How about that? But let’s, let’s go into this, right?

So I’m gonna go into the really. Smoking evidence here. Okay.

Simone Collins: Okay. Yes.

Malcolm Collins: So, there is documented evidence of a specific anonymous post, which originated on four chan shortly after Epstein’s death on August [00:03:00] 10th, 2019. Okay? It describes him as being wheeled out of his cell in a medical wheelchair after 4:15 AM inmate count.

Front cuffed handcuffs in the front was a nurse presented, but no triage nurses claiming to have spoken to him, followed up by an unauthorized trip van arriving. The post implies this happened before the official medical discovery of his body at around six 30 suggesting a possible covert extraction or body switch and no meaningful hospital interaction upon arrival.

So you hear this and your initial thought as is.

Simone Collins: Yeah. You’re saying people are, people say he was wheeled out before his dead body was discovered.

Malcolm Collins: Hold on. We’re just laying out the initial piece of evidence here.

Simone Collins: Okay.

Malcolm Collins: Somebody anonymously on four chan before he died.

Simone Collins: Yeah.

Malcolm Collins: Said he was wheeled out before he died.

Yeah. Now you hear this and you say, okay, it is [00:04:00] weird that somebody knew about this before this was all made public, but

Simone Collins: oh, you’re saying the time they posted it? Oh, I’m sorry, I didn’t catch that.

Malcolm Collins: Hold on, hold on. But it’s still just an anonymous four chan post.

Simone Collins: Right. But, but literally before he died, like chronologically in the time of our universe.

On the day he died two hours before he died. Hold on.

So for clarification, this was after he had died, but before that was made public.

Simone Collins: Okay. Go on. Go on.

Malcolm Collins: Okay, so the full text as archived, because I wanna get to this. Mm-hmm. Not saying anything after this, please do not try to dox me. But last night after 0 4 1 5 count, they took him Epstein to medical in a wheelchair front, cuffed, but not one triage nurse says she spoke to him.

Next thing we know, a trip van shows up. We do not do medical trips. They take inmates to Monte Friar’s, Rikers North Infirmary, intubate, doubt it. Dead on arrival [00:05:00] equals DOA hospitals do not release information to correction officers in quote. Okay. And so this appeared on the four chan board at, around the time of his death which was about 40 minutes before the public announcement.

But again, that turns out to be irrelevant. So you hear this and you’re like, okay, this could be any of a thousand things until the declassified Epstein files, and this is where this becomes an enormous smoking gun.

Simone Collins: Oh.

Malcolm Collins: So, and this was as of 2026. We now have this information.

Simone Collins: Okay.

Malcolm Collins: The identity of the person who posted this is Roberto Gal, a Lieutenant Corrections officer at the Metropolitans Correction Center, the MC where Epstein was held.

Oh,

Simone Collins: didn’t wanna be doxed, I feel bad,

Malcolm Collins: right? The files include a subpoena issued by the US attorney, Jeffrey Berman, of the SDNY, the day after Epstein’s death, targeting four Chan, apple, at and t and others to trace the [00:06:00] IP and identify the source investigators subpoenaed AL’S banking and communication records confirming his involvement.

This gives the claim so. Hold on. So what do we now know? Okay. We now know the person who posted this

Simone Collins: mm-hmm.

Malcolm Collins: Worked as a corrections officer in that facility.

Simone Collins: Mm-hmm.

Malcolm Collins: So what else do we know? He is a real individual. Mm-hmm. Who worked at that facility at the, at the MC.

Simone Collins: Mm-hmm.

Malcolm Collins: In New York City. The federal Joe Jeffrey Epstein was held and died in August, 2019.

Mm-hmm. Not only that, but he was on duty during the relevant time period. Mm-hmm. Including the night leading up to Epstein’s death. Mm. But hold on, that becomes more important in just a second.

Simone Collins: Well, we also, because the government freaked out. Right. And then we’re like, who posted this? No.

Malcolm Collins: Right. Right. But it becomes more interesting.

That’s what we haven’t even gotten to, why this is so fascinating and why it’s smoking.

Simone Collins: I’m interested already.

Malcolm Collins: [00:07:00] Now here’s an even crazier thing,

Simone Collins: okay?

Malcolm Collins: So we do from the Epstein files. Get some additional context on this guy.

Simone Collins: Okay?

Malcolm Collins: So he provided statements as part of the MCCs internal investigation into Epstein’s desk, eg.

On guard protocols and events that night, which were released in the 2026 dump. There is, and here’s a really important part, but we’ll get to why it’s important in just a second. There’s no public record of him facing charges. Discipline or further legal action related to the post officials seem to have treated it as part of the broader probe into leads and irregularity regarding the jail, rather than pursuing him specifically, he does not appear to be involved in any Epstein related lawsuits or testimony or searches for his name outside the context.

Mostly turn up unrelated people if you do searches. So, hold on. So they, we do have one other thing from him. So when they were doing the interviews of everyone at the facility,

Simone Collins: okay.

Malcolm Collins: And this appears to be untied to the investigation to tie him to the four chan post. Okay.

Simone Collins: [00:08:00] Yeah.

Malcolm Collins: He August 12th, 2019 addressed the warden in Dale in. Was the title passed Information from Special Housing Unit where he describes routine inmate handling details from the day before Epstein’s death in it.

Geral states that on Friday, August 9th, 2019 at approximately 1:50 PM he passed information to oncoming staff Officer Davis, officer Shaki and Officer Joyer specifically, he noted that Inmate Reyes 8 5 9 9 3 0 5 3 was going wa likely a reference to a writ court appearance and might not return.

And that inmate Jeffrey Epstein would need a cellmate upon returning from his attorney visits. So this is incredibly important.

Simone Collins: I thought he was supposed to be by himself.

Malcolm Collins: No, no. He was mandated by court psychologists to always have another person in the cell with [00:09:00] him. And this was also, this was because he was a, an un alive risk.

Simone Collins: I know, but that doesn’t like it seems. I’m not stopping. Like let’s say that I’m, I’m putting someone else’s cell and they’re a little, you know, on edge. I’m not gonna stop them from like, why are you putting that out on inmate? It’s not their job. It’s

Malcolm Collins: in this prison and

Simone Collins: it’s good

Malcolm Collins: protocol to have, you’re less likely to go through the presumably very long process

Simone Collins: given the way

Malcolm Collins: he

Simone Collins: killed them.

Oh. If someone else is there. Okay. Fair enough. Fair

Malcolm Collins: enough. If someone else is there. Yeah. So the point here being is Epstein on every other night had somebody else in his cell.

Simone Collins: Yeah.

Malcolm Collins: That person was discharged the night before the unliving happened. Okay. Mm-hmm. And we’ve gotten to in our other video on this, but we’ll cover, give a brief overview all the other irregularities that have already come out tied to this.

Simone Collins: Yeah.

Malcolm Collins: The officer who happened to post the post saying Epstein looks like he was wheeled out in a wheelchair right before he supposedly [00:10:00] died.

Simone Collins: Yeah.

Malcolm Collins: Also is the same officer who went to the warden and said, Hey, Epstein is supposed to have another person in his cell with him. Why isn’t there someone else in his cell with him?

Simone Collins: Oh, oh, oh.

Malcolm Collins: Basically he was the one person we know for sure was actually doing their job.

Simone Collins: He wasn’t quiet. Quitting in

Malcolm Collins: prison.

Simone Collins: Yeah. Wow. Props to this dude.

Malcolm Collins: But

Simone Collins: they’re mad, mad at him for like making a fuss and posting on four chan, but they’re like, oh. But he’s like the only guy who actually works here. We need to keep him anyway, even though we’re really mad that he leaked this information.

‘cause if he quits, literally no one else will do their job.

Malcolm Collins: Yeah, the one guy who didn’t appear corrupted or bribed and was actually like, Hey, this is an univ risk. Shouldn’t we be doing something about this? Not just on four chan, but to the warden himself?

Simone Collins: Yeah.

Malcolm Collins: Okay. And we have like [00:11:00] records of this from the investigation.

Okay. So this guy, upstanding guy and very shockingly, just in case you’re wondering, he hasn’t died in a freak accident already. Oh, that’s

Simone Collins: good.

Malcolm Collins: But hold on.

Simone Collins: He’s probably on edge right now though.

Malcolm Collins: This is a smoking gun. So this guy, all right, he he, he posts this on four chan.

Simone Collins: Yeah.

Malcolm Collins: They. Go like a swarm of angry bees pulling at T records, pulling all the, like whatever records, et cetera.

You know, you have to do a lot to find out exactly where a post came from on four chan.

Simone Collins: Yeah. It’s,

Malcolm Collins: this was an extreme, they call it

Simone Collins: for a reason

Malcolm Collins: investigation. Right. So they do all of this. Right. And, and, and keep in mind from their perspective, this is just a random post on four chan, right? Yeah.

Presumably the reason they’re doing this, if this is a real investigation, is to find out is this a random person, right. Or is this somebody who might have relevant [00:12:00] information to the case? Alright.

Simone Collins: Yeah.

Malcolm Collins: That’s presumably why they’re going to all this effort. Yeah. To find out who posted this.

Simone Collins: Yeah. If obviously weren’t true, they wouldn’t be interested, would they?

Malcolm Collins: Well, no. They might be like, oh, did some random kid post this from their basement? Right. Like, okay, the timing was weird. But it could be a troll, it could be somebody outside the facility. It could be somebody who have no idea what’s going on. It could be somebody with a history of pulling pranks like this.

It could be any number of things, right? So I’m an investigation. I want to know, is this somebody with actual information? No. Or is this a random somebody? Right. You know? No, no. And if it’s a random, you know, unreliable person then it can be thrown away. Right. But if it, if it is somebody Right, I would want to do more investigation.

Absolutely.

Simone Collins: So

Malcolm Collins: they go through all this effort, they find out Yes. If somebody was extremely credible information into what’s happening and they never interview him, they never do [00:13:00] any post investigation. It stops right there. The extremely angry hornet’s nest. Trying to figure out how somebody knew information like this beforehand, stopped the moment they found out that this person might have credible information or not just might, would likely have credible information.

There is no, this isn’t somebody who like you know, Bigfoot guy had done a lot of pranks before or something like that. This is quite the opposite. This is the one guy who is trying to get the prison to follow protocol.

Simone Collins: Yeah. Gosh, I, yeah, this is

Malcolm Collins: really

Simone Collins: something.

Malcolm Collins: Now we need to take some counterfactuals.

Simone Collins: Okay?

Malcolm Collins: Yes. What could explain this, okay, why did they not follow up with him? Why did they not interview him afterwards? Why did the investigation suddenly die? The moment they knew the person who posted this had credible information and not just die? It’s like he didn’t face any punitive action. It was just like, it’s [00:14:00] gone.

It’s over. We’re not talking about this. Why? Okay. So few potential things. One is, is that they did have further investigation on him, and those files have just been fully redacted or were disappeared. Plausible. No. That looks really, really bad. Why would you disappear those files if what he told you could have been easily dismissed, right?

Yeah, no. If it wasn’t real, why are those files gone?

Okay. So if, if those files are gone, if we’re in that world, right, that means that Epstein is still probably alive. Or something else really weird happened with his body that they’re trying to cover up. Like he was taken out alive and then killed in another location. Two, what could have happened?

What could have happened is the investigation was actively in on a coverup, right? So if the investigation [00:15:00] was actively in on a coverup, why did they start buzzing around in a spasm the moment it looked like somebody had insight information?

Simone Collins: Hmm.

Malcolm Collins: Oh, because they wanted to silence whoever might have insight information if they had enough information or like a picture or something like that that could blow this open, right?

Mm-hmm. So that part still makes sense. Then they find the guy, they find out either he has no more credible information or they were easily able to blackmail him. ‘cause he hasn’t really talked about this since. Well,

Simone Collins: and has docs to anon continued to work at this corrections facility or not?

Malcolm Collins: Mm, he doesn’t work there anymore, but he appeared to work there for a while after this.

Simone Collins: Do we know what he does now?

Malcolm Collins: Mm, I haven’t gone into it. Didn’t wanna dox him further.

Simone Collins: Yeah, I just, I like I, that would kind of indicate whether he’s been paid off, you know what I mean?

Though. Doc, Dan on your bro, and I’m sorry, we, we don’t wanna

Malcolm Collins: the one, the one honest guy, [00:16:00]

Simone Collins: thet man in the world.

Malcolm Collins: But the, the point that I’m making here

Simone Collins: Yeah.

Malcolm Collins: Is, okay, so we live in a world where the investigation was in on it and was looking to see if they needed to silence anyone found the guy, and then what they were concerned was, was silencing him. Yes. So they didn’t really want any conversation. They have to be on the books.

And so those records were never created in the first place. They were just like, you know, you can’t ever talk about this again.

Simone Collins: Right? Yeah.

Malcolm Collins: So, in that scenario, it also means something fishy happened and he was either murdered, but even more likely than that, that he was taken out, extracted, alive.

Simone Collins: And now that I’m thinking about it, he, he was the kind of person, I mean, as, as we saw from the e like this Bill Gates email that he sent to himself as like, here’s, like, presumably he sent that Bill Gates STI. Email to himself, assuming that it could work as blackmail in the future. I mean, he was very good on blackmail.

Like in, in, in other cases, [00:17:00] totally unrelated to Bill Gates and other people. He was very, very, very good at getting dirt on people especially like financial and tax related dirt. That would really put them in a bind if they ever crossed him. I imagine he had some damage. Well, Simon, you’d

Malcolm Collins: be very happy to know.

Simone Collins: Yeah.

Malcolm Collins: What happened to this guy? So here’s what we know from the records,

Simone Collins: okay?

Malcolm Collins: He continued to work at the MCC facility until it was closed down in 2019, due to controversy surrounding Ev Epstein’s death. After that, he’s never had a job again.

Simone Collins: No, no, no, no, no, no, no. You’re a bro. Like hide.

Malcolm Collins: No, that’s not my takeaway from that.

Simone Collins: What?

Malcolm Collins: He’s gone. Well, he had a good record. It seems that this, the most of the people at the facility were transferred to other facilities. Mm-hmm. It seems that somehow he came into generational wealth. [00:18:00] That’s what I take away.

You don’t randomly just stop working like that when you have as clean a record as

Simone Collins: this guy did. Listen, he was, he would either take the money or get window cancer. What do you want, Malcolm? Yeah. Take the

Malcolm Collins: money. Yeah. I mean, I guess good end for the one honest corrections

Simone Collins: officer. Honestly. Yeah. I’m like, get your bag, sir.

We thank you for your service. You tried. Okay. Now don’t die. You tried. They, they got you. The system is corrupt. You learned your lesson. Enjoy your retirement. Please don’t get off, but, okay. So I could see this now that I’m thinking about it, like Epstein really would have some kind of dead men switch where he is like, listen, I may be in jail, but if I don’t ping into this system.

Every however many days

mm-hmm.

All of your secrets will be, will be revealed. And that enough people with influence and power were able to get him out because they could not afford [00:19:00] for those secrets to get out. I don’t know. What do you think? Like that? I feel like that could be enough to have

Malcolm Collins: an intelligence agency that looks after their own, like,

Simone Collins: no, no, no, I’m sorry, but like, yeah.

This, this whole no man left behind thing. It, it’s sweet and they try sometimes, but people don’t care. Like people double cross and screw people over all the time. Way

Malcolm Collins: crazy. These leaks. I haven’t, I haven’t looked to confirm this one yet, but did you know that he. You know what? The kava is the really famous Muslim thing that they all do their prayers and walk around and it’s got the rock inside in Mecca?

Simone Collins: No. So it’s a pilgrimage site.

Malcolm Collins: It’s the most famous Muslim pilgrimage site.

Simone Collins: It’s, I thought Mecca was the most famous Muslim pilgrimage

Malcolm Collins: site. It’s in Mecca.

Simone Collins: Oh, it’s the, it’s the thing you see in Mecca

Malcolm Collins: when you go to Mecca. It’s the main thing you

Simone Collins: see. So like, it’s, it’s the Cinderella’s castle of, of Disneyland, of, you know, and

Malcolm Collins: Mecca.

There’s like a little boxy, square boxy thing that people walk around.

Simone Collins: I’m so, it’s such a blind spot for me. I’m sorry.

Malcolm Collins: It’s literally the most sacred thing in Islam. So [00:20:00] anyway,

Simone Collins: when you said kava, I thought like, oh, isn’t that like a fast casual Mediterranean restaurant? Sorry. He made

Malcolm Collins: Well, the fans love you because they say that you help establish facts that like the normal fan doesn’t know either.

Simone will change it. I

Simone Collins: just pooped face.

Malcolm Collins: Okay, so he paid the Saudi Arabian government, it looks like, for a part of the cava to use as a rug for part of its covering.

Simone Collins: Oh, wait, wait. He like, what? Epstein.

Malcolm Collins: Epstein literally was on the cover. An extremely sacred Islamic artifact.

Simone Collins: I mean, he also, from my understanding of all the coverage contributed to the foundation of four chan.

This guy knew how to troll, so I gotta, you gotta respect that. He, he did some atrocious, horrible things. He also trolled

Malcolm Collins: yeah. So we’ll be that’s, I mean that [00:21:00] is, well it is, it is a sac sacrilege to an entire, I mean, talk about You wanna get

Simone Collins: back? Yeah. I honestly don’t know how he could have actually done something so sacrilegious though, like, how do you even get access to that?

Malcolm Collins: He bought it from the Saudi Arabian government, from the Crown Prince.

Simone Collins: Would they? Sell that though

Malcolm Collins: to if he had contra bought on them? Yeah.

Simone Collins: Oh. Oh my gosh. I’m sorry. Gimme

Malcolm Collins: by the way, on the evidence for the, pizza of the Keisha, the black and gold embroidered closet. It covers the Kaba and Mecca. In 2017, a shipment arranged through private contracts in Saudi Arabia, in the United Arab Emirates, emails in the files detailed logistics, including coordinates by Emirati businessmen.

I will not be able to pronounce these names with items labeled as picture frames or artwork to transport via British Airways Cargo from Saudi Arabia to Epstein’s residence in Florida and the Virgin Islands. The pieces included one from the Kaba inner lining, one from the used exterior covering and one unused [00:22:00] fragment made of the same material.

A shipping invoice valued them at approximately $10,980, which some reports online that’s, that’s no way though. It would’ve cost way more than that. Yeah, this, he clearly had contra mount on somebody and they shipped him part of the holiest site in all of Islam. That is absolutely wild. That is, that is completely wild.

Okay. So, to Simone’s earlier question about policy bureau of Prisons, BOP policy at the time required high risk inmates like Epstein, who had attempted Unli weeks earlier to have a cellmate as a safeguard. Even after he was removed from the UN Alive Watch lift on July 30th, Epstein’s previous cellmate, Efrin Rays was transferred out that day, leaving him alone overnight.

A key factor in the DOJs, that leader criticism for MTC stash negligence. Wait, he had attempted Unli before?

Simone Collins: Yeah. That was never clear to me why he was seen as a risk at all, because I [00:23:00] hadn’t heard some story about him making attempts or showing signs of serious depression. But maybe it was, this was a long time ago.,

Malcolm Collins: Hold on. I’ll, I’ll do the other suicide attempt first. So, there is evidence that Jeffrey Epstein was involved in an incident in 2023, 2019, 18 days before his death that federal officials investigated and described as an unli attempt.

He was found unresponsive in his cell at the MCC in New York. Lying in a fetal position was marks and bruising on his neck from what happened to be a noose fashion from an orange fabric or a bedsheet. Prison. Guards were performed CPR and he was briefly hospitalized before being placed on, on a Liveing watch for 31 hours.

Why hasn’t this been talked about? More. However that is theory denied. It was an unli attempt and instead accused his cellmate at the time, former police officer Nicholas 10 James, who was facing murder charges of assaulting him during a quote unquote experiment or prank [00:24:00] involving a rope or claws around his neck.

Whoa, that is sketchy. A former police officer was with him in his cell and didn’t stop him from attempting to unli himself, and Epstein said, he’s the one who did it. How did I not hear about this? And so, in interviews with psychologist, Epstein repeatedly stated that he had no suicidal ideation describing suicide as crazy and against his Jewish face.

And he claimed he could not be an incident due to,

Simone Collins: so he, someone attempted to murder him in his cell.

Malcolm Collins: That’s what it looks like. Yeah. Well, specifically a former cop. Mm-hmm. I, I just hearing about this now in this investigation. Okay. To continue. Maybe that’s why he, he was so eager to get out quickly.

He’s like, I can’t stay in here anymore. I gotta call the the bros. Let’s go to the Fortnite theory. Okay? This theory is unfortunately, maybe strong, maybe not as strong, so let’s go over [00:25:00] it. All right. So there’s been some pictures that have come out. The files include a receipt titled May 7th, 2019 which show a 25 95 charge for V bucks on Fortnite.

Now this was about three months before Epstein’s death. VBU are Fortnite in-game currency. Wait, was Epstein out of jail at that time?

Okay. So he was free at that time. Okay. I was just checking if, if we could confirm that this wasn’t made by Epstein, but it appears possible that it was made by Epstein.

Simone Collins: Mm.

Malcolm Collins: So, one, we know that Epstein did there, somebody using his card did pay for Fortnite stuff. Right. It, it could have been one of his staff, but somebody paid for Fortnite stuff.

Simone Collins: Right. Okay.

Malcolm Collins: And, and we do know Epstein was a rabid gamer of the type of games like this. So it’s completely within every caricature we know of Epstein, that he was a, a rabid Fortnite player

Simone Collins: an avid Fortnite gamer,

Malcolm Collins: rabid. Okay,

Simone Collins: fine.

Malcolm Collins: So, separately the documents reveal Epstein’s YouTube username [00:26:00] was littlest Jeff one connected to his email giv [email protected].

This account is,

Simone Collins: okay. Can someone explain to me why people just add numbers to their name? When is this ever Okay. Like, sorry. Like even little as Jeff won can me like, sorry, go on.

Malcolm Collins: So, online sluice then went to Fortnite to see if they could find a player with the name littlest. Jeff won. Right. And they did.

And if you look at this player, there’s a lot of very interesting things about it. For example the one time that this player did not play any Fortnite was during the period in which Epstein was in jail. Other than that, it played a ton of Fortnite, both right after he died and before was jailed. So that does not look good.

Here’s the problem with this theory,

Simone Collins: okay?

Malcolm Collins: It’s [00:27:00] that Epic Games. Fortnite developer quickly addressed this on x This was a ruse by a Fortnite player. A few days ago, an existing Fortnite account owner changed their username from something totally unrelated to littlest Jeff.

One following the revelation of littlest Jeff, one as the name on Epstein’s name on YouTube. So here’s the problem with that.

Simone Collins: Okay?

Malcolm Collins: And we’ll go over it because we’ll go over the the, the details of this. Okay? One, if it is true that Epstein was not this other account, right?

Simone Collins: Yeah.

Malcolm Collins: Why don’t they release his real account name?

Like we still don’t know what his real account name was. And so if they could just release his real account name, it’d be very easy to see that he hadn’t been on this for a while. Right? Too if you look at the like, go back, whatevers

Simone Collins: the way back machine,

Malcolm Collins: the way back machine as some people [00:28:00] did you could find it, you could find it under that name.

Simone Collins: Little less. The

Malcolm Collins: problem is, is that thing on the way back machine disappeared in real time, basically, while s sleuth were looking at it.

Simone Collins: So they’re like, the page is loaded and then it just disappears. Yeah.

Malcolm Collins: So we don’t have strong evidence there of whatever the heck that was. We just know that some people say it could be doctor images that the way back machine said that.

I personally w would to the, the, the, fortnite lead, I’m gonna have to say low probability. The reason I say low probability is Epic Games quickly. Doing a confirmation like this is a pretty big thing to do, especially given that Epstein files are constantly being released and they could be in them next if they are a [00:29:00] hearing from somebody that they need to hide this.

You know, it seems like the forces that are trying to get the Epstein stuff out there are having more and more success as time goes on. Yeah, I would not stick my neck out like that if I was them. So on that front, I just, I don’t know, I just, I don’t see it as that much of a smoking gun, given that anyone can choose one of these account names.

And then two there’s a, a, a two-parter here. We only know of him using this account name on YouTube. I haven’t seen, I’ve heard that he used it in other places. I’ve seen no evidence that he’s used it in other places. That being the case, you have to ask yourself, as Simone pointed out, he called himself littlest Jeff one.

Right. Usually when somebody’s choosing like a standard username, what they’ll do is they’ll choose something like littlest Jeff and then they’ll put one at the end of it. If there happens to be another littlest Jeff within that platform,

Simone Collins: which is so stupid,

Malcolm Collins: I know you don’t like it, but some people really have like one name that’s like their name.

So when they’re doing Warcraft, if there’s another littlest Jeff and they [00:30:00] want to

Simone Collins: talk to No, then they do the real Donald Trump, the real

Malcolm Collins: little sh yeah. And that, and then you run out of things. ‘cause then everybody starts doing the re and then

Simone Collins: the numbers is, is worse. There’s, there’s zero. And he was.

He was a Jew, so he was a word cell. So he would’ve been cool with that. That’s, I don’t know. I just feel like, and he was, he like was a performative intellectual. He, he used himself internally. The probably

Malcolm Collins: put littlest, Jeff won in the account on YouTube that there was already a littlest Jeff account.

Right. If he, if he had other little as Jeff’s accounts, it is probably likely they wouldn’t have been labeled one, they would’ve been labeled either little as Jeff or the littlest Jeff. And then whatever number comes after that. Right. Now, even if that’s not the case, that’s one thing that I find suspicious about this.

But even if that’s not the case, it’s also important to note that we have literally zero evidence which is actually surprising to me given that if he is this much of [00:31:00] a, a Fortnite fanatic mm-hmm. That he ever claimed or in anything seemed to show that he had the Fortnite account. Little as Jeff won.

Now, there is one pushback you could make on this.

Simone Collins: Okay.

Malcolm Collins: Why was he kicked off of Xbox?

Simone Collins: I don’t rem. Oh. Because he used the N word. No. ‘

Malcolm Collins: cause he was his sex offender. That might be why he hid what his Fortnite name was and why. We have no confirmation of it anywhere else in the documents. ‘cause he was afraid of being kicked off for being a sex offender.

Simone Collins: Oh, of course. Yeah, of course. Why did I not think of that? And what, why would I think that the n wordss gonna get you kicked off for,

Malcolm Collins: I think he might have also been kicked off of something for saying the N word. I just wanna be clear that that was the main reason.

Simone Collins: I don’t know, but like, I don’t know if you get kicked off a platform with chat for using the N word or the f slur word or other things.

It, it [00:32:00] just, I, I, I don’t know. I feel like you’re gonna get kicked off if you don’t use those terms. Unless things have gotten that bad online. God, I hope not. Yeah. Is trash talk dead Anyway,

Malcolm Collins: so, now let’s talk about some of the other leaks that people have gotten crazy about.

Simone Collins: Okay.

Malcolm Collins: The blurry orange picture that came on the, the cell, like the camera images from the, the MCM and I see this as literally irrelevant.

It does not matter. I understand that it wasn’t in some of the reports, but I could have easily missed this. You could have easily missed this. A person could easily be like, that just looks like a prisoner and a guard, which is what it looks like. So, I’m not, I’m, I, I don’t, I don’t think, yeah.

Simone Collins: Until we actually get enhance, there’s just nothing we can do.

Malcolm Collins: Okay. So next .

Simone Collins: Mm-hmm.

Malcolm Collins: Let’s go to the ear one, because the ear one is one of the ones mm-hmm. Where when you do your own research

Simone Collins: mm-hmm.

Malcolm Collins: As I don’t understand why other [00:33:00] people don’t do this. It looks a lot a a lot less suspicious than it looks at first.

Simone Collins: So to give context, people were comparing pictures from Epstein’s alleged corpse when he died and his ear in normal times. And were comparing the ear shapes and saying, this is not the same ear. Right.

Malcolm Collins: Yeah. And they do look nothing alike in the pictures that you see going around on X.

Simone Collins: Okay.

Malcolm Collins: And for people who are not familiar with this, this used to be the way that they did fingerprinting was ear shaped because it’s incredibly unique.

Was,

Simone Collins: yeah, it was a very unique identifier. For example, a very high profile example of this was when the Romanoff dynasty had been, you know. Murdered, but people thought that Anastasia was still alive when New Pretenders who said, I’m Anastasia, I am a Romanov. They would compare their ears and be like, ah, but don’t you see there is no resemblance.

[00:34:00] And yes. So this is now they’re just going back to this.

Malcolm Collins: Yeah. So let’s go to what some, some people are saying on X about this. Okay. There, because a lot of people are just like, well, you know, you change sayings on your body change shape as you die. Right?

Simone Collins: Right. You think swell things recede. Absolutely.

Yeah.

Malcolm Collins: Right. So when one person is acknowledging that, and then he goes, yet the cartilage flattening on the nose makes no sense. The cartilage in the ear should be shrinking back. Makes no sense because we’re seeing that the nose actually seems to puff up in these pictures rather than down right into a shape that is, and I’ll note that the nose is, is gonna turn out to be more important than the ear in just a second here.

Simone Collins: Oh

Malcolm Collins: boy. Another person says there are a lot of changes that begin to show almost immediately. The ear thing is incredibly odd, though the folds creases in our ears are as unique as fingerprints after death. The lobes construction retract the creases, however, would remain the same. They are cartilage and it would take a minimum of 24 hours to make a change of the kind of that kind.

Aside [00:35:00] from color, the ears of a post-motor photo are not the same as Epstein’s. Here. We have one person, w Davis Merit, md. Wow. I am an ear and nose and throat surgeon. I operate on ears. Those ears are not from the same person. He says, I cannot attest to the source of validity of the photos.

But all it takes is a hair sample from one of his houses or a prior specimen from surgery, and then a dete, DNA test of a specimen of the corpse. Which of course we’re not going to get. So what I immediately tried to do when I saw all of this, ‘cause I was like, yeah, that those ears clearly do not look the same when you draw those little images on them, right?

Simone Collins: Yeah. People were like putting the ears into Ms Paint or whatever. And then just tracing over the

Malcolm Collins: Yeah. But even without the images that are sort of traced on them I, I can just look at the two without the images and I like that they include the two without the images and then be like. Those look like different ears.

So yeah.

Simone Collins: Yeah.

Malcolm Collins: I dug into winded ears change, how do they change through our lives, et cetera. And the bigger change that could have happened [00:36:00] isn’t post death, but as changed.

Simone Collins: Yeah.

Malcolm Collins: So I then said, okay, that picture they’re using a for comparison looks pretty young.

Simone Collins: Yeah.

Malcolm Collins: So can I find a picture that looks from around the same, or at least later, A

Simone Collins: cute, clever girl.

Speaker: Clever girl.

Simone Collins: Oh.

Malcolm Collins: So the best image I have found for this, unfortunately has some images over his ear, but you can still kind of see it if you look on compare the ear in that image to the ear of the cadaver.

You see, it looks much more similar. The, the thing that I’m really looking for in the ear is if you look at that little weird dangly bit that he has Yeah. The

Simone Collins: ear doodle

Malcolm Collins: one is, is the weird dangly bit that he has that doesn’t appear to be in the Epstein alive photo or as, [00:37:00] as clearly Oh,

Simone Collins: ears are weird.

Malcolm Collins: Oh my God. And the other is the little out, out bit at the front of it, right? Yeah. The problem is, is that the other images of him that are as old, this ear, the one with the, the money sign in front of it does have the dangly bit looking small like that. And it does have the the extrusion on the other side looking similar.

Simone Collins: Yeah. His ear doodle is, yeah. ‘cause the, in, in, if you’re looking at the cadaver versus young image of him, his ear doodle is super long when he is younger. And then it got shorter. And if you look at the, the other old picture that Malcolm dug up, his ear doodle is shorter. Yeah, it’s not long. Much more. And then if you, the other one, so at the age, ski doodle shortened,

Malcolm Collins: this is, this is one of him in the red sweatshirt

Simone Collins: okay. Now, oh yeah. That’s a short ear doodle.

Malcolm Collins: Yeah.

Simone Collins: That

Malcolm Collins: looks almost exactly like the cadavers.

Simone Collins: This ear doodle got way shorter.

Yeah. Oh my gosh. People were just being silly. They were just getting old photos.

Malcolm Collins: Yeah. They’re just

Simone Collins: not

Malcolm Collins: looking at more modern [00:38:00] photos

Simone Collins: and actually look at his nose too. No,

Malcolm Collins: no, but his nose is harder to explain his nose. When he’s dead does look genuinely different from his nose in either of these.

Simone Collins: No, no, no, no.

His, his, his nose looks more rounded in, in the red shirt photo. So the, the difference why

Malcolm Collins: more rounded

Simone Collins: for those who are, who are listening the, the difference is pointed out in his nose was he had a much more rounded, we’ll say, chewy looking nose when in, in the dead cadaver video. Whereas in the younger photo and the comparison photo used by the conspiracy people, it looks very straight.

It’s very straight nose. But when you look at a, a, a later age red sweat shirted photo of Jeffrey Epstein, he does have a little more of a curve to the top of his, his nose, I think. Yeah, I think my, which would make sense, I think like what noses and ears get bigger ish when you grow grafts because other parts of your body recede due to collagen loss, right?

Malcolm Collins: Yeah. So, basically I see this one [00:39:00] as. Possibly something to look into, but

Simone Collins: I don’t, no, I’m, I’m calling it, I’m, this is labeled nothing Burger in my mind I find

Malcolm Collins: well, actually is very important because if that is the cadaver of Jeffrey Epstein, it means that the cop who said he saw him being wheeled out in a wheelchair was wrong.

Because this was taken in, in the facility, right? So, it would mean that they may have had, and this is where it gets interesting, ‘cause I didn’t know this

Simone Collins: unless, unless they wheeled them out in a wheelchair and then, I’m sorry. We were just wa watching Apothecaries diaries last night and someone took a mysterious potion that made them appear dead so that they could escape from a certain situation.

It’s, it’s not implausible that they put him into some kind of coma th