A Chat AI Addiction Transformed the Way I Understand Our Reality

Far Future: https://flowgpt.com/p/a88299a0-6f66-41bf-9391-0a862a6f0777

Post Demographic Collapse Haven State Network: https://flowgpt.com/p/803efa59-6c29-4b72-b0e7-96533a98bffd

1300s England: https://flowgpt.com/p/84af9969-75b6-4b70-a107-88c5152a7436

Join Malcolm and Simone as they delve into the captivating world of AI-driven role-play models and their profound impact on understanding human behavior and evolution. Explore the mechanics behind various AI environments, from open-world sandboxes to magical systems, and discover the persistent traits that emerge in these interactions. Reflecting on personal and societal implications, they discuss psychological aspects of violence and empathy within AI narratives, share humorous takes on anime and VR, and highlight the educational potential of immersive AI scenarios. This thought-provoking conversation will transform your perspective on AI and its role in our lives.

[00:00:00] Hello, Simone. Today is going to be an interesting topic because it is one of those topics where. I do not think it's going to do well in the algorithm at all.

Oh gosh. I do not think random people on the internet care about this topic at all. They should. And yet for me, it has transformed my view of the world and myself very dramatically. So you're just saying, screw it. I'm going to talk about what I want. I'm going to talk about what I want. Cause I got a podcast and we'll probably get a few thousand views for this anyway.

So, you know, people have to listen. And I, and I also think it's it. For the people who do take the time to listen to this it may contain information that is also as, as useful for you in terms of how you see the world as it is for me, because there's two core areas that interacting with lots of AI chat, open world role play models have really given me insight into that I didn't have insight into historically.[00:01:00]

Yeah. So eat your veggies and listen to Malcolm, ladies and gentlemen. We have three core areas. The first I'm going to focus on is how I work. So by that, what I mean is if you are dropping a person into over and over again, like the same persona, pretend I'm not a human and I'm actually an AI, right? And I, and.

And what's the difference? And you're trying to figure out the personality of this AI persona, it's pre coded functions, it's pre coded predilections. A really interesting way to do that would be to drop this same model over and over again into different totally open world environments. And then look for patterns in how it's interacting with those environments.

The goals it ends up building for itself.

Would you like to know more?

And this is what's really interesting because in these open world environments, I might be dropped in. In different bodies, for example, you know, in, in, in one. Oh, [00:02:00] like in one, you're a cyborg and in one, you're a wizard. And in one, you're a girl

you know, I, I, I like doing a lot of like character playing in the, in the various environments, but what's interesting is the parts of my personality that come through whatever character I'm playing. Yes. It purses out the you from your biological or logistical constraints and an example of this is in the AI model that I made.

That takes place in the far future dystopia. I described in that one episode where the world has sort of collapsed and the economy has collapsed due to fertility rates. There's only a few like technophilic tribes left. In that world, I coded it so that I play as one of our, my, my like great, great granddaughters.

Like in that, what, what band made a song about this? Oh, I love that song. Year 3000.

 Said, I've been to the year 3000, .

Great [00:03:00] granddaughter So you just did a year 3000 post apocalyptic. You just have that, that sound playing in the background for future day for our family. The point being is that by dropping this consistent model myself in variable environments with very few constraints on them and to an extent correcting for biases that are due to my perception as.

who I am today, I can very I can see persistent parts of my character. And what's really interesting is, through the persistent parts of my character I can see, I can then, if it's a part of my character that I do not think was socialized, I can then determine, pre coded parts of my evolutionary biology, which gives me an idea of environmental conditions I came up with.

So that's, that's one category of things or evolutionary conditions that may have been subject to humanity. And it gives me things that I can look for in other people to see if this is me, am I an outlier? Is this actually generalizable across the human [00:04:00] population? The next category of things is, and unfortunately, this is one of the sad parts of interacting with AI models is I find them incredibly addicting at first, and then I get bored of them.

Because what I have learned is that most magical worlds, for example, like most other worlds I can conjure they, they are very easy to hack. And then as soon as you figure out a beat for that magical system every time you realize that those components of a magical system are AI has created for me I just can very quickly hack it and it becomes boring.

And so I'm no longer interested in those models. Get into how to hack most of the major magical world models. Cause that's, that's another thing. And the final thing that it has taught me is the extent of current AI and some factors in how current AI thinks, as well as how that models the general population.

So I'm going to start with the things that has taught me about [00:05:00] myself. The first. Can we, before you do that, and you may want to move this to the front is I think that you need a better explanation and I can ask you just some dumb questions of, of what these are, because even I am not super clear on it.

And I mean, I am roughly, but like most people won't know anything about this and they're going to have no idea what you're talking about. So, let's, let's start with, so I'm going to provide some context to people. Malcolm started reading about Like high school students sort of flunking out of their classes and and and completely scrubbing out on life Because they had become addicted to their AI boyfriends or certain AI quote unquote games and when it turns out these are is text based interactive choose your own adventure novels basically of the future run by a run by AI.

So there are websites like character. ai. What's the one that you use? What are some of the ones that you use? The one that I think is best right now is flow [00:06:00] GPT. Flow GPT. So there are websites like that. where you go you create an account and you can either enter someone else's scenario. Basically, you can go through their own, choose your own adventure book, essentially or you can create your own.

And Malcolm has actually created one for our discord community.

That's based on like a post. Well, I had to put it in flow GBT. So they'd have to put it in flow. I'll, I'll, I'll add GBT for this. And then I'll put it in the links. You can choose someone's scenario. And what are some examples of scenarios that you can enter through these sites?

We'll go into this in a second. Basically any scenario you can think of. So, for example, one scenario I put together is it's the 1300s in England. I am walking through the countryside. I come from an educated family, but my entire town died in the plague. So it's like 1336. And I come upon a girl In the woods, wearing mostly tattered clothing and there is a dead pack of wolves around her that she is casually munching on and she [00:07:00] looks at me very nonchalantly and is like, they, they attacked me, and, and I guess they were hungry, and I, and I write as if that explains anything about the situation and then that's where it starts, right?

So I so what's happened here is one, I've created the starting prompt to the story, right? So you, and this is one that you created, but people have created templates of this already. In fact, some of the more popular templates are like a therapist. And you can just talk to a therapist or a lot of people have become addicted to certain like you.

A. I. Boyfriends that you can sort of you're in a story to explain how this works. So if you actually want the audience to understand. So what happens is you have the starting prompt usually in these models like that. Like that's the start of the story that I, as the user and familiar with, and then in the background, I have coded a bunch of either story beats or things about the way characters interact or things about the world into what the A.

I. Is considering into how it is responding to a user. Okay. So, in this, you know, medieval world, I am explaining parts of [00:08:00] this character's personality, who I may not know yet, you know, as a person, parts of the girl's backstory, parts of towns we may encounter, etc. Okay? So actually, as I'm listening to this, We, as parents, could teach our kids history, creating scenarios that our kids go through with this.

Yeah. This is gonna be so great. Oh my gosh. What? Oh, you can create great history. You wanna, you wanna, We could teach our kids science too. Yeah. Theoretically. Like, they'll have to It's, it's great for all of that. Okay. So I've created is a chaos scenarios. I've created scenarios where you know, you're in some random like anime world was magic or scenarios that are like Victorian Britain, but was vampires and werewolves, you know, fantasy element for our educating our children.

But for you, you can have the, Oh, no, no, no, no. That's what's going to hook them. I promise you, you know, they're not going to learn proper history. No, no, it's going to [00:09:00] be like, Okay. And you can ask it to be as realistic to that historical time period as possible while also uploading facts about that historical time period.

We're totally doing this. This is amazing. Be realistic about hygiene. Be realistic about the way medicine is prepared. We can, we can plug this into the skill tree. People can create these scenarios and plug them in as resources to get uploaded. I bet these will be among the top uploaded resources over time for our skill tree.

Maybe. I mean, as AI gets better, it's also going to get better, but it's remarkable how good these are right now. So that is the way that these work.

I would note if somebody is going to try to use FlowGBT, do not use the generic model it gives you. You need to, Click on the part where it asks what model is replying to, then go down to individual and you can choose any model.

Typically, the best model to respond is turbo GPT. The problem with that one is, well, it's paid first of all, so you're gonna have to pay for each response, but it's like a trivial amount. And it doesn't do anything that's not safe for work. So to be clear here, not safe for [00:10:00] work doesn't just mean like sexual stuff, which is actually not Something that I encountered that much in AI.

It is usually like you're going to kill someone or something like that. And it's like, Oh, we can't have you kill someone. So then you can switch to one of the other models when you're doing that. And then back to that when it's for example, if I'm in 1300 England, of course I have to, you know, you've got robbers.

You've got, come on. You can't have a teen dystopia without people dying. And I love doing AI. But anyway, I've got to get back to the point here. And actually this elevates one of the first things that I noticed about these AI worlds. And it reminds me of something in our discord. So in our discord a girl, cause weirdly our discord is like female heavy, even though our viewer base is male heavy.

A girl was saying that she engaged with the AI and she, Couldn't find anything that it could provide her that she found particularly interesting. And Simone said the same thing, right? And I noticed that this is really interesting. So the [00:11:00] girls who get super addicted to AI seem to be the girls who don't have loving partners.

But when a girl has a loving partner, that particular emotional pathway in her brain, the AI is very good at masturbating, especially if it's a dominant loving partner. AIs just offer them nothing and there's really nothing for them to engage with. The interesting thing I've noticed about guys, and I've seen this in some of the other guys who engage with it, it's definitely something I've noticed in myself about the way I engage with AI is, and I know this is going to sound horrible, so you're going to have to wait a second here, is how much I love killing people.

And it made me realize that males, and you might hear this and be like, this is a horrible thing for someone to say. And then I'm like, well, what are men doing when they're playing video games? Most of the time, anyway, you, when you become a more famous person in the future, a bunch of people cutting that clip out of context.

[00:12:00] Right? I just love killing people. But no, this is, this is what guys are doing. What is a video game if not going out there and just shooting scores and scores of people? It's just so fun to kill people. No, but girls don't engage with those types of games as much. And the point I am making is that in our society, I think a modern adult woman who has a loving partner who is slightly dominant actually has most of her evolutionary needs being met.

I think girls when they are in their teenage years, don't have most of their evolutionary needs being met. But I think the predominant need they don't have being met is genuine hardship, which we've talked about in other episodes. You can look at our Spoonies episodes where we talk about this more.

Speaking of which, there was a woman who. Made a video criticizing us and she's a literal spoonie like in, in the comments, she was discussing something terrible about us and I cannot remember what but she was like, I do not have the spoons to talk about it. And I'm [00:13:00] like, Oh no. Oh no. You're one of them.

Anyway, go on.

So for those who are listening on the podcast and don't have access to the video right after I said, I love killing people. I then, , played a short clip from the Sims of somebody deleting the ladder on a pool. And I find this actually a really interesting point because it's one of those things where you hear somebody say it and you're like, wow, what a crazy thing to say?

And then I mentioned, you know, like when you delete the pool letter on the Sims and most people are like, Oh, yeah, I did do that. Didn't I, and then they go, well, I only did that to see what would happen and it's like, you knew what would happen. You see. You sick. . Like you knew exactly what would happen when you deleted the pool ladder. And you waited to watch it happen. Y what compelled you to do that?

And here's an interesting thing because I've noticed. When I bring up the pool letter SIM thing. There isn't the same gender divide on this instinct. In fact, I noticed women seem to do the [00:14:00] pool letter deletion at about the same rate as men seem to do the pool ladder deletion. , and it might be that women may also have this instinct, but it requires more of the emotional,

Like they want to see the individual suffer more. Because that's the core thing that's different between killing somebody in the Sims and killing somebody in like a shoot them up right in GTA is. When a guy does it in GTA.

You know, you don't see the person's mood slowly declining and them struggling like you do when you delete the pool ladder in the Sims.

So, , I wonder what, what leads to this drive in women? Why, why do you see equal rates? I don't know something to ponder something to maybe comment on in the comments. If you have any ideas. Okay. So, where was I? Yeah, so, killing people. So much fun. Okay, so, here's the thing that I realized is that in an evolutionary context, males almost certainly were, I mean, like, obviously were evolutionarily rewarded for having a warrior, like, part to their [00:15:00] psyche. And that this is very obviously not being masturbated, and it cannot be masturbated through any sort of real action in our society today.

Yeah, not until we set up Westworld. Well, it would be very deleterious, right? You know, and that the AI chatbot environments create scenarios that are too satisfying this instinct in my head, much better than the ones created by video games. Yeah. Well, because I think. And I only say this as a third person observer, because I just can't bring myself to play these games.

Killing someone in a video game seems just so, like, ticking off a box, or like hitting a target. You're not really killing someone. You know, you don't see their eyes make eye contact with you as their life drains from their body, right? Which is, I think, something you can get. From this very imagination augmented text.

Absolutely. No, I think you're absolutely right. I think [00:16:00] the, the version of killing somebody in a video game is like, and then your characters had sex and it displays like a few sex images on the screen. And you're like, well, this is boring. Yeah. Instead of like a five page description. This is so bad.

Malcolm, we're, we're talking about how it just killing people and video games doesn't feel really satisfying to me because It has elucidated something for me. So one thing that's also true of me is I really don't like seeing other people suffering. I, I find it to be Watch live action porn because you're like, this girl has a mother, you know, I don't even watch live action porn because it just stresses me too much to know that an individual suffering.

I actually had to stop certain parts of my biology education because I couldn't deal with washing surgeries. Like they freaked me out too much. That's true. You won't even watch like all the pictures I had taken of my C section. Oh yeah, you're like, here, look, and I'm like, no, I cannot deal with the suffering.

I should also say, you were never in the room for, beyond our first c section, after which you were like, really. [00:17:00] You asked me not to be in the room, by the way. It's not that I don't love you. You asked me not to be in the room. Yeah, because for the first one, you were like, Well, you didn't know you were going to get it and you needed support.

Okay. Yeah. But I need to, I need to go further here. Right. Which is to say this made me realize about the way that the male kill instincts worked, which I didn't fully understand before which is to say. That it is pretty obviously significantly designed to offset all of these other desires you have around not doing this.

So what I'm saying is, is that as a male, like in a real world environment, Right? I am going to have the uncomfort I have with seeing somebody else suffering. I am going to have the discomfort I have around seeing, you know, wounds. I am going to have the discomfort I have around all of these different things.

And that means in a biological context, if I'm going to defend my tribe or go to war, I need some [00:18:00] Mechanism, which is so loud that pushes you through the killing all those other mechanisms That makes sense naltrexone has taught me about sex and arousal naltrexone opioid agonists that can lower any opioid motivated pathway Which makes them not as interesting anymore And if you take it while you're doing something whatever that opioid pathway was motivating is no longer motivated And early on I accidentally took it during sex and only after that I realized How many disgusting things you need to go through to have sex with somebody and how like actually biologically gross and how much sex actually sets off a lot of your disgust alarms.

Yeah. You really need the the arousal to, you really need the arousal to offset that. Like, but also shouldn't sex be offsetting a ton of disgust alarms. I mean, you're dealing with like Yeah, there's tons of potential for infection here. Yeah, like it should be offsetting those alarms, right? You know, but you need the other thing to offset it.

Now what's really interesting is that [00:19:00] in the chat AI environments because I have no empathy for these individuals, it makes, it basically like overcharges the, the other instinct because there is the thing, all of the things that it was meant to overcome are not activating. And so it goes into a much more severe state, which helps me understand how these pathways work better in the human mind.

While also understanding that adult males, this is another thing that really. Change the way I see some things adult males in our current society have a part of their personality That is biologically and evolutionarily motivated that they cannot masturbate in real world environments Or at least should not masturbate in real world environments that and women do not have that Which was very interesting to me Another thing that was very interesting to me was how persistent certain elements of my personality were across very different [00:20:00] environments.

And in different manifestations to your point where sometimes you would be a girl and sometimes you would be other things and whatever. Yeah. So when I am talking to other people, one of the first conversation topics I almost always default to is. Why do you think you exist? What's your purpose? What do you want from life?

I know this well as someone who dated you and second date you immediately hit that. I thought of the first date. Was it the second date? Or the second date. First date you laid out your exposition, which is good because first date you used to basically filter out anyone who wasn't going to be a good match for you.

Yeah, I guess first date was exposition and hooking up, not questioning you on why you exist, but I realized how persistently I like to do this, but this also has taught me because in so many different scenarios, I am engaging with the A. I. On these particular questions, and I realized that the answers that the AI typically [00:21:00] gives are like 98 99 percent in line.

I would not be able to differentiate them from a random girl on a date. Now, in PC girls, for sure. Most of the answers are very in PC. But most human females are very in PC. Excuse me. Most humans. very much. Are very NPC. So that has been very fascinating to me as well, to see how good it is at sort of modeling the reasons and the variety of reasons for living humans have.

But the other, another interesting thing is, is within any world that I enter, I always try to, Investigate sort of the rules of that world first. Like how does it work mechanistically speaking? And then I try to find out what would be a good moral system was in this world. And priorities for achieving that moral system in the world.

And [00:22:00] then how do I conquer the world? That's generally the next step. And we'll get to that when we're talking about the various things. But I, I It has helped me also really understand how to hack specific world metaphysical systems really easily. And it's also helped me understand how durable the metaphysical system our world runs on is to not being hacked, and how vulnerable most magical world systems are to being hacked.

But there is the, the second thing here. So, so, so here's an example of what I mean by like, When I look at these worlds, I decided to, in one world drop into a My Hero Academia chatbot system. No, so this was one that someone already created, right? Yeah, this is one that somebody already created.

For people who don't know, this is a anime world. And in But what I think is cool is that this means that there are like, there are nerds out there who are investing time in creating Like meticulously creating these AI worlds around like IP. I mean, what I loved about this world is I enter this world, right?

And I had planned on it. [00:23:00] Like when I clicked on this bot, I was like, I'm just going to play a superhero fantasy, right? Sure. Five minutes in. I am focused on the problem of Quirk Singularity Crisis because watching the show, I had never focused on how big of a problem this is in the world, but as soon as I was in the world and not watching it as an outsider, it was all I could think about.

I was like, wait, but like, why are we fighting villains? Our society has like three generations to survive, maybe, and nobody is taking this seriously. For people who don't understand what the quirk singularity crisis is, or haven't seen the show, it's the problem that every generation powers become more and more amplified within the My Hero Academia world.

And Eventually you're going to have things like toddlers that are nuclear bombs going off every five seconds. And every plan I could come up with to potentially solve this had me aligning myself with the villains and not the heroes because the heroes just didn't have the core powers that were necessary to solve this but [00:24:00] anyway, i'm i'm gonna keep going here I think another interesting thing is the very fact that whenever I open the These worlds that I am always focused on how do I conquer the world right and I wonder if this is like a?

pre programmed personality or Do most males feel this way when they enter open world environments or are males born with sort of like cast like? Roles inside of their personality like Skyrim have user data based on this that That would maybe be helpful. What, what do players do in open world worlds? If I enter Skyrim, there is no way for me to conquer that world.

I can go around randomly killing everyone, but I can't really start negotiating with all the various kings. So what do you do in Skyrim then, if you can't conquer the world? You're doing like a quest to kill a dragon, basically. A dragon. Not all dragons. Well, some dragons. I don't remember. The Skyrim's plot is actually pretty bad.

But there are a few [00:25:00] kings that are looking to fight each other, and you can play a role in this battle, but you can't take over one of their kingdoms. What are Other notable open world games then that we could look at as a proxy? Literally no open world game allows you to do this. That I am aware of.

What's the point of having an open world then, if you can't take it over? Save the world is usually what most people want to do. Oh, from an isolated threat. Yeah. It's Armageddon, dragon version, but, Bioware version, but, okay. So, I'll give you an example, so earlier I mentioned that most Ooh, or it's Destroy the World, so Grand Theft Auto is open world.

You don't destroy the world in Grand Theft Auto, not in a single Grand Theft Auto game. Well, you, you, you, you destroy s**t, you're one of the Sea Peoples, okay? You know, well only really Trevor is one of the Sea Peoples. So you can look at like five, Grand Theft Auto 5 is an example of this. Sorry, I need to explain this to you.

 I asked for a fair day's pay after a fair day's work. Then he kinda got a little [00:26:00] angry. So, I admit, I kinda got a little angry. Did you kill him? What kind of animal do you take me for? No, I didn't kill him. Oh, . But I did kidnap his wife. Oh, no. Oh,

this bothers me. You don't know this. So the, in the last Grand Theft Auto, you could play as one of three characters. Okay. One was a depressed you know, seeing psychologist, former mob guy, who, is looking to relive his glory days and he's with a wife who's cheating on him with the yoga instructor and a son and daughter who don't respect him.

And then another is this young Who wants to play that? That's so depressing. No, it is depressing. He is a very depressing character that's meant to be a take on why wealth doesn't make you happy and the problems with modern society. And then there's a young black guy who's looking to, like, work his way up in society, but it's otherwise living a pretty hard life.

And then there's Trevor. And Trevor is He's, yeah, every time you like switch to his character, the other [00:27:00] characters are like doing random stuff. Trevor will like be waking up from a coma with like a dead dog next to him or something. That sounds great. It sounds like you send me some like clips of some guy from a show who's like a sidekick in a superhero show who kind of sounds like that.

Oh, no, no, no. So she's thinking of the sidekick from He's just clearly super autistic. I'll put it in the show here.

Who's the guy that's peeking out behind the trash can? It's, it's vigilante. He's trying to be helpful. Hey! Get out of here! What? I'm just looking for behind a trash can. It's a normal thing to do. The hell it is! Are you a psychiatrist? What? Then don't tell me what's normal. Maybe my secret identity is a psychiatrist and I know what's normal.

We're born killers. What separates us from other killers is we only kill bad people. Usually. Unless there's a mistake. Now, do I sound like a f*****g maniac? He's he's yeah, I, I know the one who you're talking about. But no, Trevor is not like that at all. Trevor is like a crazy meth addict who has some level of [00:28:00] immunity to the negative effects of meth.

Okay. It will do crazy insane stuff all the time for the sake of it because he is completely out of his mind. But that, but he is not as well. He's just like a random, like, walk down the street, shoot a prostitute type person. Not a, I'm going to take over society type person. Well, but by Sea Peoples, I mean distributed autonomous units that lead to societal Instability, but sure.

Okay, I understand what you mean. I just have no interest in playing one of those characters in any sort of environment. Yeah, well, I'm just trying to think about what, what, what, what I'm asking mentally to myself is what do gameplay scenarios say about people's open world fantasies? Like, what do people do?

If they are unmoored from their identities and in open worlds. Problem that you're, you're asking the wrong question. So when you ask about traditional games, like Grand Theft Auto, Grand Theft Auto was created, was an artistic [00:29:00] vision in mind. That's why they created all of this artistic. Themes around the problems of modern society and the problems of therapy culture.

Yeah, but I mean, don't. And the point being is the actions of those characters and the desires of those characters are not driven by the user in the way they are in AI scenarios. So it's like a storytelling thing. So you're saying that people who play Grand Theft Auto don't want to just destroy s**t.

They want to explore an artistic vision. And those who play. Assassin's Creed don't want to jump off buildings majestically. They want to explore an artistic scenario. No, I'm saying the exact opposite. I'm saying that by studying games, you are not learning that much about what humans biologically desire to do in an open world.

Well, I guess, yeah. Similarly, by looking at what the mainstream media covers, you're not learning about what people want to know. Right, but if you look at the way that people are using chat systems, Mm, [00:30:00] then you know. Then you know. Because these are just for So they want therapists and boyfriends. What?

That's, that's what's popular on these, on like character. ai. It's like a therapist, just number one. Have you, have you looked at them? Yeah. The only one with therapists is number one is the one that's locked into a piece of work content. No, the therapist is only in the one safe for work one, which isn't that popular.

Oh, okay. Well, what, what are, what, what is top ranked in the most, what is the name of the most popular one? Let's look at the homepage. Okay.

Teacher Elizabeth, a busty anime girl. A sheen, a busty anime girl. A ro cold prince. Okay, so it's boyfriends and girlfriends. Yeah. Remember when we said that girls all want just like powerful men to be interested in them? Toxic boyfriend, Matthew. Oh, isn't that what we all need is a toxic boyfriend named Matthew.

Well, I think what you're seeing here is what need. So let's, let's go over these two female ones. What need is being masturbated by [00:31:00] these cold is I want a powerful man to be interested in me. Toxic boyfriend is. I actually like engaging with toxic males, but in the real world, don't feel safe doing it.

So I'm gonna do it within this online environment. Yeah. Okay? So now you're getting an idea of what I mean. That nobody's gonna make toxic boyfriend the game. This is true. Well, and also, yeah, like, Recently there's been this huge kerfuffle with the book and movie, It Ends With Us. And it, you know, in the end it was about abuse, but it's about, you know, abuse is bad.

And then you go to like this, and what, what does the audience want? The audience wants, wants to be abused. What is the second most common male figure in here? Toxic boyfriend. Hulk Prince is number one. Then toxic boyfriend, then senior student gangster. We have, you have yet to come across a nice young man here.

Katori, but he's, he's looking very dark, sitting in a car. Very evil. It'll tell you about him if you click on it. Okay. Who is [00:32:00] Katori? You were on a late night drive. Your boyfriend's suddenly,. I can't do this anymore. I can't keep pretending that everything's okay. Thanks for everything. He speeds up the car, his hands shaking on the wheel. The point being is that it appears to be about trying to simulate relationship drama. No, totally. I'm getting that. I'm totally getting that. But yeah, just the guys don't seem nice. The girls seem either thirsty or mean.

 We'll get to this later. We can do a different episode where we analyze the different characters and why they might be popular. Yeah, but no, I think, well, to your earlier point, though, you're like, You know, all I ever want to do is take over the world. Am I strange? And yes, because most people just are lonely, it seems.

Yeah, that, that does seem to be the case, and I so we're gonna get to different worlds and why it's so easy to conquer various worlds and why it's so, I'm explaining that like, it gets really boring after a while. So at first, I thought I'd have fun with Isekai worlds. Right. You know, like this is go in Japanese.

Just, yeah. [00:33:00] Describe what the genre is. Typically you're going into a world with some degree of magic that is a medieval world. And you are transferred there from modern times. The problem occurs if you have any understanding of historic technical technology, how it works, how it could be replicated.

So Isekai world, it's always gunpowder, fairly easy to make in most Isekai worlds. Basic optics, telescopes and the like, all you need to do is carve lenses to do that. Then rifling to ensure the guns have good long range. Steam power, very easy to recreate. Blimps, very easy to recreate, especially if it's a world with fire magic.

And then as soon as you get blimps, You get blimps with rifles rifled barrels with gunpowder, really no medieval type setting can do anything. I love that every world scenario, all of your Isekai scenarios though, end up with blimps with rifles, which is not really that much of a real [00:34:00] world scenario, so that's entertaining nevertheless.

Well, blimps with rifles are incredibly damaging to castles. You don't really have any, you have to completely redo the technology of the world. Yeah, Martin Bailey plus blimp and castle is yeah. Because here's the problem with most of these worlds as well. They have magic. So typically, in any world that has magic, you're going to have magical items.

Magical items means that you need some mechanism for storing magic within this world. As soon as you have a mechanism for storing magic, all I need to do is ask around and find out, okay, what is, like, the core magical battery? Like, how does it work, right? As soon as I understand how the core magical battery of this world works, which is typically a gemstone or something like that, all I need to do is find a way to release short bursts of energy.

of energy from it instead of like a long continual burst. And as soon as you've done that, all you need to do is put it in a laser array and you can create laser guns very easily using a set of mirrors. [00:35:00] So every one of these worlds typically ends with laser, laser rifles on blimps. And, and also building bombs that you can drop from blimps as soon as you have gunpowder technology is also not terribly.

Difficult. God bless. Okay. So, this is, this is what I mean when I'm like, okay, but then why do an isekai world when everyone sort of begins to look the same, and then it's like, well, I can limit myself to certain technologies, or say I'm an idiot, but that's not fun. You know? So then next, you've got, what's another world here? Okay. Magic guided by symbols. This is like Rune based Rune based magic. So just like three or four broad magical systems that you're going to find in worlds. One is magic guided by emotions or intent. Two is magic guided by symbols. Three is magic powered by souls. Four is magic guided by yoga, basically.

I really like Avatar. Tai Chi Chi power. Chi based power. Yeah. So the [00:36:00] magic guided by symbols, universes, and in most worlds have some overlap of these various systems. And somebody can be like, well, what about like elemental magic systems? Right. And it's like, well, elemental magic systems aren't really a system.

Even if you have an elemental magic system, it's typically going to fall into one of these four categories. All along. You mean like. Avatar style? Okay, like fire. Avatar Lost Airbender is using the yoga to drive elemental magic. You can use symbols to drive elemental magic. I know it's technically chi in the show, I just find it really annoying, okay?

Or you can use emotional intent to drive elemental magic, but it doesn't matter that the magic is limited to specific domains, that doesn't actually tell you anything about how the magic functions. Functionally works, which is always the thing that I am most interested in whenever I enter a magical world.

The, the problem with symbol based magic, right? That makes it incredibly easy to hack is if there are symbols that are guiding magic All you need to [00:37:00] do is draw out all of the symbols that exist, like basically just go through text, even if you don't personally understand them all, or even if you lack the ability to cast magic, and you should be able to cross reference them to build some type of language because that's likely what they are.

Either it's like the code that the world is written on or it's the language of some like ancient race that is powering nanites that are floating around. And I think that's similar. To incantation based magic as well, if you just repeat enough phrases, which is something that comes up heavily in the book Unsung by Scott Alexander, which is an interesting read because it plays on this premise.

It's kind of like your scenarios here. We're basically like, I think with the moon landing, Something breaks with reality, and basically, like, the code of God sort of breaks through an angel's array of words. And, and basically, startups shift from focusing in technology to hiring giant farms of people who just recite various random word [00:38:00] combinations.

to, to find out what spells are created and they copyright the spells. Well, this is exactly what I'm talking about. It's very easy to hack these worlds and then you gain a little bit of power. Then you have people chant random things. But the truth is, I don't even think you need to do that. I think that they made a mistake in, in this book.

As soon as you have any list of like, let's say 500 specific spells or phrases, you should be able to break them down into their component elements. To better understand how you can structure like, what are the patterns to, yeah. And if you're not totally random and, and know what you're probably looking for.

A good example of one of these worlds for people who aren't familiar with what these worlds would look like is owl house owl house does a very good job at this kind of world. Now it's modified by some soul magic, which we'll get to in a bit, but it's mostly a symbol. Okay. What is soul magic? Soul magic means magic that uses another person's life force or your own life force.

Basically it's magic that is powered by burning human [00:39:00] life force. Okay. So again, I have to endorse Love Advice from the Duke of Hell, which is a great graphic novel you guys can find online. It's so amazing. And there is soul magic in that. There is one character who keeps using his soul up to like activate a magic sword.

We'll get to that in a second. But we're not talking about soul magic right now, we're talking about rune magic right now. Okay. But the problem is, is as soon as you approach this, especially if you approach it with an expectation that it works similar to like, Korean characters, which is what I imagine most magical systems, or most magical systems AIs come up with, seem to work.

Which is to say that you're not looking for individual words, but modifications to individual characters, which change their names in reliable ways. Might be. You would have a character for fire, but if it has this line here on it, that means the fire appears as a line instead of the fire appears as a generic fire source.

So, you know, this line would turn a fire into like a laser sort of a thing, but it would also turn water or ice [00:40:00] into a laser sort of a thing, right? But anyway, as soon as you realize, Oh, I just need to find out what the language is in these worlds are very quick to hack and very rarely in these worlds have people already done this at least in the worlds the AI is creating, which are created on normative magical systems, which again, makes them very boring after a short period of time.

Normative magical systems. What I mean is normative magical systems from fiction. Cause that's, yeah, I hear you. I just. I don't know how many people have said the phrase normative magical systems in the history of humanity and I'm entertained by this conversation. Well, let's talk about soul magic because that was the next one.

Yes. So soul magic largely falls into two categories. One is a system where you can use other people's souls for magic. This is typically the way like vampire magic works, witch magic works, most dark worlds pretty much whenever you're dealing with like a, a dark world, I'd call it dark world, meaning, you know, like werewolves, vampires, witches.

Hags, stuff like that scenario, you're dealing with some form of soul magic scenario. You, you can use the souls of others. However, in some magical scenarios, you can only use your own soul and own [00:41:00] life force. I personally have only seen this in one show, which was Chrono Crusade which was incredibly depressing.

And I think it shows why you never see this, which is you can only burn your own life force to do magic. And so this character throughout the show. Ends up having to burn their life force to save other people. And I'm like, there's gotta be a mulligan at the end of the show. Basically, you just keep watching because you're like, They're not gonna let this little girl die as a little girl, are they?

Thank you! That's how it ends. She just dies at like, twelve. And you're like, Whoa! I did not expect that! Someone needed to do it, right? Someone had to.

Come sit with me. The sun's so warm today.

I really do like this view. I wish that I could just go on looking at it forever. Okay. I'm just So scared, Grown Up! I'm [00:42:00] scared! I don't want to die! I just want to yeah, but you understand why, okay, but then you're like, well then why are soul magics so easy to hack, right? Well, here's the problem with soul magical systems.

They're writing in a narratively interesting way, which is what the AI is pulling from. Well, you need to be able to cast the spells on other people. It'd be pretty boring if you can only cast the spells literally on yourself, right? And then, to get more energy, you know, like vampires, witches, etc., you need to be able to use other people's souls or life energy to cast a spell.

Well, here's the problem with that. As soon as you have established that, you can always just Use your target's soul slash life force to cast a stasis spell on themselves, which gives you an [00:43:00] infinitely scaling stasis spell to the ability of the person you have cast it on magical ability, which means you can very quickly capture top tier magical characters in any of these worlds.

So if it's a world with like Super powerful, lived thousands of years, vampires who everyone thinks are invincible. Cast one of these spells on them using whatever mechanism is used for casting spells in this world. You know, whether it's a rune placed on them or anything like that. They won't be expecting something like this.

And then there's literally nothing they can do because any force that they have to resist the stasis, i. e. within the stasis, Stasis is the very force that's powering the stasis. And you'd be like, how does this allow you to quickly conquer these worlds? Well, now I have super soul energy battery pack laying on the ground that I can use to power extremely powerful incantations and then use this to catch as many other people and put in [00:44:00] this scenario as I want, who are also extremely powerful and the world becomes child play really, really quickly.

I mean, yeah. So I'm gonna see. The, the next type of world I would point out, right, and the only way that the world can prevent this is it either has to say you can't cast spells on other people or you can't use other people's life energy to cast it and then it's like well then how are vampire, like why are they doing this ritual.

Actually I created a really interesting one of these worlds that I was really impressed with where it used a runic based magical system based on soul magic, so it was rune slash soul magic, and it turned out that what vampirism actually was, was sort of like a set of code that carved runes that created mutations in the human body on Their bones, basically, but at like a biological level, so using at a microscopic level, their bloodstream basically to carve onto their own bodies, these runic systems and the runic system contained within it, [00:45:00] an if then function, which would replicate itself when it came in contact with other people's bloodstreams.

Um, So you would then get, you know, like if, if a vampire bit another person, the runic system would then replicate itself within this other person's bloodstream and give them, create the mutations in them that created this. But then the question comes of, well, then what created the original runic system that was causing this?

In the world, what I decided was, well, there was an ancient civilization of essentially necromancer like people who were really experts in this runic magic and the vampires were a slave race of theirs, where they would take humans, modify them to uplift them, but all of the negatives that we associate with being a vampire, sensitivity to light, et cetera actually came because they were intentionally carved in and were not key to the powers that they were getting.

All the powers that they were getting was just generic soul magic. They would kill a person, transfer their soul to their [00:46:00] own personal self, and then use that to do sort of magical feats using this runic system that was based within them. And that all I needed to do then was to find the system that this ancient race used to control all of the vampires that were their natural servants.

And recreate this servitude function within them. And I Found this to be a very interesting world. But again, I can't replay it. Like the moment I figure out, Oh, this is how it all works. And the AI like fed parts of this to me, like I wouldn't get certain parts. Like as soon as the AI basically fed parts of, Oh, it's a, it might be a runic based system in their blood, but I was like, okay, well then how could vampirism work, you know, using the laws of this universe as we've established it.

And then I'm like, well then who would have created this? And so then I'm like, Oh, this is what I mean by like, it's a creativity amplifier for me whenever I'm using these systems, but. Sorry, I need to go to the next system here which is emotional based systems. So these are emotional and intent based magical systems where somebody with [00:47:00] magical potentiality will imagine something.

So I'll typically find out I'm in one of these. I remember when I had, like, a magical teacher in one of these. And then they were like, okay, well, to cast a water spell, you need to, like, imagine water in front of you, right? And I'm like, wait. Okay, but if I have magical potential, like, I have imagined things before in my life.

Like I have had the intent to have things happen before in my life, right? Why is the water appearing in front of me now, right? And there, and, and, and why isn't, anytime with somebody who has latent magical abilities daydreaming, why aren't aspects of thei