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Amanpour: Gaisu Yari, Orzala Nemat, Timothy Snyder, Jeff Orlowski & Tristan Harris

In an unexpected turn of events, talks between U.S. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, the Taliban, and the Afghan government will soon take place. Commission of Afghanistan’s Civil Service Commission, Gaisu Yari, and Director of the Afghanistan Research and Evaluation Unit, Orzala Nemat, join Christiane Amanpour to asses how women’s rights might be affected. Timothy Snyder, author of “Our Malady: Lessons in Liberty from a Hospital Diary,” discusses his near-death experience and America’s healthcare system. Our Hari Sreenivasan talks to Director Jeff Orlowski and Tristan Harris, President & Co-founder of Center for Humane Technology, about their new Netflix docu-drama, “The Social Dilemma.” To learn more about how CNN protects listener privacy, visit cnn.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Sep 13, 202055 min

Amanpour: Jonathan Powell, Mark Landler, Jim Tankersley and Lang Lang

Former UK Chief Negotiator for Northern Ireland, Jonathan Powell, and New York Times London Bureau Chief, Mark Landler, join Christiane Amanpour to unpack the parallels between UK PM Boris Johnson and U.S. President Donald Trump as the UK moves to break international law over Brexit. Then Jim Tankersley, author of "The Riches of This Land," debunks the myth of the middle class. He also explains to our Michel Martin why restricting immigration to boost wages is the wrong way to go. And finally, Chinese pianist Lang Lang gives a private concert from his home in Beijing where he has spent the duration of lockdown keeping up his musical fitness. He reflects on realizing his life-long dream of playing Bach’s Goldberg Variations. To learn more about how CNN protects listener privacy, visit cnn.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Sep 11, 202057 min

Amanpour: Ali Soufan, Michael Sandel and Reed Hastings

Former special agent Ali Soufan joins Christiane Amanpour to talk about his now declassified book, "The Black Banners," and how the CIA redacted evidence that torture didn't work. Then renowned philosopher Michael Sandel makes the case against meritocracy, the topic of his new book, “The Tyranny of Merit." He also reflects on the roots of our populist moment. Our Walter Isaacson speaks to Netflix CEO Reed Hastings about the secret to his company’s success, which he says lies in their smash-the-conventions culture. To learn more about how CNN protects listener privacy, visit cnn.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Sep 11, 202057 min

Amanpour: Chris Murphy, Svetlana Tikhanovskaya, Erin Brockovich and John Leguizamo

As the cries for racial justice continue in America and the election looms ever closer, Democratic Senator Chris Murphy joins Christiane Amanpour to unpack all this and his new book, "The Violence Inside Us." He talks fighting gun violence from Newtown to Kenosha and avoiding another Sandy Hook. As protests sweep Belarus over what many say is was a rigged election, Svetlana Tikhanovskaya, the stay-at-home mom turned Belarusian opposition leader, opens up about her unlikely foray into politics. Erin Brockovich became a household name when her fight for environmental justice was immortalized by Julia Robert’s portrayal of her in the 2000 film. She reflects on her battle for clean water for all and penning her new book “Superman’s Not Coming.” And finally, Ana Cabrera speaks to stand-up comedian and actor John Leguizamo about his directorial debut, "Critical Thinking,” the true story of a group of underprivileged Latinx and Black teens who qualified for the National Chess Championship in 1998. To learn more about how CNN protects listener privacy, visit cnn.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Sep 9, 202057 min

Amanpour: Jeff Flake, Radhika Jones, Ta-Nehisi Coates and Rick Perlstein

As the Republican National Convention draws to a close, Jeff Flake, former Republican Senator, discusses why he is endorsing Joe Biden for President. Radhika Jones, editor-in-chief of Vanity Fair, and Ta-Nehisi Coates, acclaimed author and guest editor of Vanity Fair, talk about the magazine's September issue and the continuing struggle for racial justice. Our Walter Isaacson talks to author Rick Perlstein about conservatism in America today. To learn more about how CNN protects listener privacy, visit cnn.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Aug 28, 202057 min

Amanpour: Howard Bryant, Ken Blackwell, Robert P. Jones and Susan Rice

In a major moment, professional sports players across the United States walked out in protest over the shooting of Jacob Blake. ESPN Columnist, Howard Bryant joins Christiane Amanpour to discuss their protests and the impact these statements may have. And as the shooting shocks and saddens people around the globe, Ken Blackwell, an Advisory Board Member for Donald J. Trump for President defends his messaging on law and order. Turning to election tactics, scholar and author of “White Too Long”, Robert P. Jones explains why Trump’s strategy of targeting white, evangelical voters isn’t sustainable. Then our Walter Isaacson speaks to Susan Rice, former U.S. Ambassador to the UN and former National Security Adviser under President Obama, about Russian interference in the 2016 election. She’s concerned they’re using the same tactics to interfere again this year, and feels it could add to the political divisions across the U.S. To learn more about how CNN protects listener privacy, visit cnn.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Aug 28, 202056 min

Amanpour: Jeh Johnson, Benji Backer, Josina Machel and Mia Love

With the shooting of Jacob Blake and the increasing tensions in Kenosha, Wisconsin, Jeh Johnson, former Homeland Security Secretary, joins Christiane Amanpour to discuss the latest developments in the fight for racial justice playing out on America’s streets. He says the White House risks antagonizing protesters further by politicizing the government response. Turning to climate, Benji Backer, the American Conservation Coalition President, explains why the Republican National Convention ignoring the urgent climate crisis is an immense failure. Then we speak with Josina Machel, daughter of Graca Machel and step-daughter of the late Nelson Mandela, about the brutal domestic assault that left her blind in one eye. She reflects on the surges in gender-based violence in South Africa during lockdown, already one of the most dangerous places in the world to be a woman. And lastly, our Michel Martin talks to the former U.S. House Republican Mia Love about the highs and lows of Trump’s controversial presidency. To learn more about how CNN protects listener privacy, visit cnn.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Aug 27, 202057 min

Amanpour: Rick Scott, Elizabeth Economy, Victor Gao, Michael Reagan and Dr. Zijian Chen

On day two of the Republican convention, Republican Senator and former Florida governor Rick Scott joins Christiane Amanpour to make the case for the reelection of President Donald Trump. Then Elizabeth Economy, director for Asia Studies at the Council on Foreign Relations, and Victor Gao, Vice President of the Center for China and Globalization, examine the real-world implications of a US-China showdown. And turning back to the coranvirus pandemic, our Hari Sreenivasen speaks to Michael Reagan about his post-covid recovery, alongside the doctor running Mount Sinai’s Center for Post-COVID Care, Dr. Zijian Chen. To learn more about how CNN protects listener privacy, visit cnn.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Aug 27, 202057 min

Amanpour: Scott Jennings, Dr. Paul Offit, Afua Hirsch and Beth Fukumoto

As the Republican National Convention kicks off, Republican strategist Scott Jennings joins Christiane Amanpour to discuss how the committee’s decision to not put out a new platform could weaken the party in the long run. Then turning to coronavirus - virology expert Dr. Paul Offit lays out the facts surrounding the Covid-19 outbreak as the global community deals with a surge in new cases. Journalist and author Afua Hirsch discusses Britain's colonial history and exploring Africa's art and culture in her new BBC series 'African Renaissance’. She explains how colonial gaze has made us blind to the truth. Our Michel Martin speaks to Beth Fukumoto former member of the Hawaii State House about switching sides to the Democrats. She opens up about drawing her red lines too late in the day. To learn more about how CNN protects listener privacy, visit cnn.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Aug 25, 202057 min

Amanpour: Doris Kearns Goodwin, Chanel Miller and Jonah Berger

A Democratic National Convention like no other concludes in America, and anticipation builds for next week's Republican National Convention. Christiane Amanpour is joined by presidential historian Doris Kearns Goodwin to discuss these extraordinary events and how the 2020 presidential race shapes up against it's historic forbears. Then, artist and author Chanel Miller was once only known to the world as Emily Doe, a sexual assault survivor whose powerful anonymous victim impact statement went viral in 2016. Last year she revealed her identity and published an award-winning memoir, “Know My Name”. Miller speaks to Christiane about the struggle to find her voice and what it really means to be a survivor. And our Hari Sreenivasan talks to Jonah Berger, professor at the Wharton School, University of Pennsylvania, about the art of persuasion and his new book “The Catalyst: How to Change Anyone’s Mind." To learn more about how CNN protects listener privacy, visit cnn.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Aug 22, 202057 min

Amanpour: Carol Moseley Braun, Pramila Jayapal, Tyler Mitchell and Michael Chertoff

Kamala Harris makes history as she formally accepts the Democratic nomination for Vice President of the United States, becoming the first Black woman and first Indian-American on a major party's ticket. Christiane Amanpour speaks to Carol Moseley Braun, the first Black woman to become a U.S. Senator, about Harris' inspirational message and breaking down boundaries in American politics. Then, Pramila Jayapal was the first South Asian American woman elected to the U.S. House of Representatives, on the same night that Harris achieved that same milestone in the Senate. They discuss America's changing attitude towards immigration and the push for Medicare for All. Photographer Tyler Mitchell was just 23 when became the first Black photographer to shoot the cover of Vogue’s famous September issue, photographing none other than Beyoncé. He explains why he sees black beauty as an act of justice and his new book “I Can Make You Feel Good". And our Michel Martin speaks to Michael Chertoff, former Secretary of Homeland Security, about what he thinks are the greatest threats facing U.S. security, and how the role of the DHS has changed in recent times. To learn more about how CNN protects listener privacy, visit cnn.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Aug 21, 202057 min

Amanpour: Kyriakos Mitsotakis, Igor Leshchenya, Ron Klain, Tom Perez and David Chalian

As countries around the world try to adjust to a new normal, it's clear that there is no perfect blueprint for handling the coronavirus. Greece had remarkable early successes fighting the virus, but having now opened up to tourists, cases have surged and a new shutdown has been hurriedly implemented. Christiane Amanpour is joined by Greek Prime Minister Kyriakos Mitsotakis to discuss the pandemic, heightened tensions with neighboring Turkey and the ongoing migrant crisis. Then, Belarusian President Alexander Lukashenko continues to cling to power after a disputed election result and a week of protests. Igor Leshchenya, Belarusian Ambassador to Slovakia, explains why he chose to side with the people, tendering his resignation and denouncing Lukashenko. Our Walter Isaacson speaks to Ron Klain, former Chief of Staff to Vice President Biden, about the Trump administration's handling of the coronavirus pandemic, and why he thinks it will cost Trump the presidency. Chair of the Democratic National Committee Tom Perez talks to Christiane about the unconventional format of this year’s event and how he thinks the presidential race is shaping up. And correspondent David Chalian speaks to Christiane about the latest from the virtual convention floor. To learn more about how CNN protects listener privacy, visit cnn.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Aug 20, 202057 min

Amanpour: John Kerry, Dan Rather, Margaret Carlson and Cory Booker

The Trump administration announces plans to drill the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge and the clock ticks down to November 4, the day America looks set to officially leave the Paris Climate Agreement. These moves come in the midst of a presidential election in which climate has played a bigger role than ever before. Former U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry committed America to the Paris Climate Agreement back in 2016 and he joins Christiane Amanpour to discuss the Democratic campaign and share his perspective as someone who went head to head with an incumbent Republican President. Then, this year’s virtual Democratic National Convention is shaping up to be like no other before, but these nominating events have a long history of generating their own magical moments. Our Walter Isaacson talks to Dan Rather, former anchor of the CBS Evening News and Margaret Carlson, columnist at The Daily Beast, about the meaning and purpose of these conventions in the landscape of America’s politics. And Christiane is joined by Democratic Senator Cory Booker to discuss the Biden-Harris ticket and this year’s push for Democratic unity. To learn more about how CNN protects listener privacy, visit cnn.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Aug 20, 202057 min

Amanpour: John Kasich, Taghi Amirani, Walter Murch and Wade Davis

A Democratic National Convention unlike any seen before kicks off in the United States. Many of the biggest names in democratic politics are due to speak at the virtual event, demonstrating as much socially distanced unity as the party can muster. Christiane Amanpour is joined by former Governor of Ohio John Kasich, who ran against Donald Trump four years ago for the Republican nomination, and has now crossed the political aisle to speak at this year’s DNC. Then, in 1953 the CIA and MI6 instigated a coup d’état to overthrow Iran’s Prime Minister Mohammad Mossadegh and reinstall the Shah to power. Operation Ajax set in motion a course of events that would lead to Iran’s 1979 Islamic Revolution, and which continue to shape the country today. Documentary film “Coup 53” uses new archival evidence to tell this story and Christiane speaks to the men behind the film, director Taghi Amirani and editor Walter Murch. And our Hari Sreenivasan speaks to professor of anthropology and best-selling author Wade Davis about his latest article for Rolling Stone “The Unraveling of America”, and the end of American exceptionalism. To learn more about how CNN protects listener privacy, visit cnn.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Aug 18, 202057 min

Amanpour: Jared Kushner, Anwar Gargash, Vali Nasr and Marietje Schaake

This week's landmark peace agreement between Israel and the United Arab Emirates has divided opinion across the Middle East, and the world. Christiane Amanpour speaks to Jared Kushner, Senior Adviser to President Trump, about America’s role in the negotiations and the upcoming U.S. presidential election. Then, Anwar Gargash, UAE Minister of State for Foreign Affairs, discusses the reactions from the region and what the new diplomatic agreement might means for UAE-Israeli relations. Vali Nasr, Professor at Johns Hopkins School of Advanced International Studies, and Marietje Schaake, former European Parliament member for the Netherlands, join Christiane to talk about international reactions to the deal, and how this move fits into the broader framework of U.S foreign policy. To learn more about how CNN protects listener privacy, visit cnn.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Aug 17, 202056 min

Amanpour: Tzipi Livni, Jaime Harrison, Dave Zirin, Michael Bennett and Jacob Collier

After years of security cooperation, Israel and the United Arab Emirates have signed a peace deal which sees Israel suspend it’s plans to annex parts of the West Bank. Former Israeli Foreign Minister Tzipi Livni joins Christiane Amanpour to discuss the historic agreement. Then, for the past 17 years South Carolina has been a Republican stronghold, and the home state of Republican Senator Lindsey Graham. Jamie Harrison is the first African American Chair of the South Carolina Democratic Party, and is standing toe to toe with Graham this year. He speaks to Christiane about the presidential race and his ambitions to forge a “new South”. The coronavirus pandemic has had a devastating effect on American sport and is now threatening the upcoming college football season. Our Hari Sreenivasan speaks to sportswriter Dave Zirin and retired NFL defensive end Michael Bennett, about their book “Things That Makes White People Uncomfortable” and how the Black Lives Matter movement has been empowering athletes both on and off the field. And musician Jacob Collier exploded onto the music scenes in 2016 with his album “In My Room”, recorded almost single-handedly in his bedroom. Much of his latest album, “Djesse Vol.3” was recorded from his home during lockdown and he reflects on finding inspiration in isolation. To learn more about how CNN protects listener privacy, visit cnn.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Aug 14, 202058 min

Amanpour: Valerie Jarrett, DeRay Mckesson, Rutger Bregman and Kurt Andersen

Senator Kamala Harris is named as the first Black female candidate for Vice President. It’s a historic choice for America, coming at a historic moment for the country. Christiane Amanpour is joined by Valerie Jarrett, former Senior Adviser to Barack Obama, to assess the presidential race, and the Biden-Harris ticket. Law enforcement issues have played a fundamental role in Harris’ career, and her presidential campaign. Civil Rights Activist DeRay Mckesson has previously challenged Harris on her record, and he discusses his take on Joe Biden’s new vice-presidential pick. Then, at this time of social upheaval and hyper partisan politics, perhaps it’s time for some lessons in “hopeful history”. Author Rutger Bregman joins Christiane to chat about his new book "Humankind:A Hopeful History”, and why believes that humans are innately good. And our Walter Isaacson speaks to journalist and author Kurt Andersen about the absence of fairness in America today. They talk about his new book "Evil Geniuses: The Unmaking of America: A Recent History” and the threat of hyper-capitalism in America. To learn more about how CNN protects listener privacy, visit cnn.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Aug 13, 202056 min

Amanpour: Linas Linkevičius, Andrei Sannikov, Bill Gates and Jeffrey Toobin

Police and protesters clash in the streets of Belarus over the disputed sixth term election victory of President Alexander Lukashenko. His opponent, Svetlana Tikhanovskaya, was detained on Sunday after filing a complaint about vote rigging and has now fled to neighboring Lithuania. Christiane Amanpour speaks to Lithuanian Foreign Minister Linas Linkevičius about the latest developments and Tikhanovskaya's experience. Then former Belarusian presidential candidate Andrei Sannikov, who ran against Lukashenko in 2010, talks about his own mistreatment at the hands of Lukashenko’s regime and the need for international sanctions. Our Walter Isaacson speaks to Microsoft Corporation founder Bill Gates, about his fight to improve global health through the Gates Foundation, the search for a coronavirus vaccine and why he thinks much of the testing currently being done in the U.S. is useless. And President Trump continues the fight to keep his financial history a secret, his lawyers are now arguing that he’s being “harassed”. Jeffrey Toobin, legal analyst and author of "True Crimes and Misdemeanors: The Investigation of Donald Trump" joins Christiane to unpick the facts of the case. To learn more about how CNN protects listener privacy, visit cnn.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Aug 12, 202057 min

Amanpour: Ghassan Hasbani, Claudia Mo, Jennifer Granholm, Saikat Chakrabarti and David Kaye

The Lebanese government steps down as violent protests rock the country. With the economy and food security now at breaking point, Christiane Amanpour speaks to Ghassan Hasbani, former Lebanese Deputy Prime Minister, about last week’s devastating explosion, and where the responsibility lies. Then, the arrest of media tycoon Jimmy Lai marks the most high-profile attempt by Beijing to crack down on democracy in Hong Kong. Pro-democracy member of Hong Kong's Legislative Council, Claudia Mo, reflects on the effects of the new national security law and the threat to press freedom. Jennifer Granholm, former Michigan Governor and Saikat Chakrabarti, former Chief of Staff for Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, discuss the case for “Medicare For All”, and the direction of the Democratic party. And our Hari Sreenivasan speaks to David Kaye, former U.N. Special Rapporteur on Freedom of Opinion and Expression, about what he calls the ‘Trump effect’ and the rise in authoritarian leadership. To learn more about how CNN protects listener privacy, visit cnn.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Aug 11, 202057 min

Amanpour: Khalid Aljabri, Mark Mazzetti, Mona Fawaz and Tyler Shultz

Christiane Amanpour speaks exclusively with Khalid Aljabri, son of a former Saudi intelligence official who claims Crown Prince Mohammed Bin Salman sent an assassination squad after him in 2018. To unpack this, Mark Mazzetti, New York Times investigative correspondent, weighs in. He explains the significance of the AlJabri's family allegations against the Saudi government. Turning to Lebanon: Beirut professor Mona Fawaz assesses the Lebanese government's response to the Beirut explosion and the political fallout still to come. Then our Hari Sreenivasan talks to Theranos whistleblower Tyler Shultz who explains how the company put lives in grave danger. To learn more about how CNN protects listener privacy, visit cnn.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Aug 10, 202057 min

Amanpour: Setsuko Thurlow, Stuart Stevens, Ari Berman and LaTosha Brown

75 years after the nuclear bombs fell on Hiroshima and Nagaski, survivor Setsuko Thurlow, still struggles with the memories of death and destruction. She joins Christiane Amanpour to reflect on that horrifying day that inspired her to dedicate her life to campaigning for nuclear disarmament, which earned her a Nobel Peace prize. Stuart Stevens, former Republican strategist, talks candidly about the disillusionment he now feels for his old party and why he once "represented the worst of the political system.” Then, our Hari Sreenivasan speaks to Ari Berman, author and senior reporter at Mother Jones, and LaTosha Brown, co-founder of the Black Voters Matter Fund, about voter suppression and the looming election crisis. To learn more about how CNN protects listener privacy, visit cnn.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Aug 7, 202057 min

Amanpour: Steve Cortes, Dr. Anthony Fauci and Isabel Wilkerson

As Beirut reels from a deadly explosion, adding to their already struggling economy and political instability, we give you the latest updates from those on the ground. Then looking ahead to November, Steve Cortes, senior adviser to the Trump 2020 Campaign, joins Christiane Amanpour to talk facing off against Biden. Turning back to the coronavirus pandemic, our Walter Isaacson speaks to Dr. Anthony Fauci, America’s leading infectious disease expert, about his war of words with President Trump. And finally, Isabel Wilkerson, author of "Caste: The Origins of Our Discontents," discusses America’s caste problem and why we need new language to understand and heal our divisions. To learn more about how CNN protects listener privacy, visit cnn.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Aug 6, 202056 min

Amanpour: Ben Wedeman, Edward Lee Childress, Megan Rapinoe and Dr. Francis Collins

As a huge explosion rocks Lebanon's capital, our correspondent Ben Wedeman gives us the latest from the ground in Beirut. Then we turn to coronavirus and how it is impacting schools in the U.S. and around the world. Edward Lee Childress, superintendent of the Corinth school district in Mississippi, talks about reopening his schools and dealing with the surge in positive cases in his area. Arne Duncan, former secretary of education, also weighs in. He argues we are asking too much of school officials. Megan Rapinoe, two-time world cup soccer champion, discusses her new HBO special 'Seeing America with Megan Rapinoe' and the movement for racial justice. Turning back to the Covid-19 pandemic, our Walter Isaacson talks to Dr. Francis Collins, director of the National Institutes of Health - aka Fauci’s boss - about the search for a vaccine and the very tough months that lie ahead. To learn more about how CNN protects listener privacy, visit cnn.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Aug 5, 202057 min

Amanpour: Mary Trump, Edward Enninful and James McBride

Millions of Americans who lost their jobs in lockdown await decisions from a deadlocked Washington and the coronavirus pandemic enters a new phase in the U.S. as it infiltrates rural heartlands. With an election just three months away, what is going through the mind of President Trump? Christiane Amanpour is joined by Mary Trump, clinical psychologist and niece of the President. Then, British Vogue Editor-in-Chief Edward Enninful reflects on his experience as the first man, and first Black editor, of the iconic British fashion publication. They discuss this year’s flagship September issue and how the Black Lives Matter protests are reshaping the fashion industry. And our Michel Martin speaks to award-winning author and musician James McBride about his latest novel “Deacon King Kong”, the current racial and cultural tensions, and why he remains optimistic. To learn more about how CNN protects listener privacy, visit cnn.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Aug 5, 202057 min

Amanpour: Paul Krugman, Russ Feingold, Paul Rosenzweig and Eduardo Padrón

With coronavirus benefit payments in the U.S. set to expire imminently and Congress unable to agree a new aid deal, many Americans face an uncertain financial future. Nobel prize-winning economist Paul Krugman joins Christiane Amanpour to discuss the fight to protect American prosperity and the "body blow" that political inaction deals to ordinary citizens. Then, Russ Feingold, president of the American Constitution Society and Paul Rosenzweig, founder of Red Branch Consulting, give their take from either side of the political aisle on Attorney General Bill Barr’s testimony this week. And our Walter Isaacson speaks to Eduardo Padrón, president emeritus of Miami Dade College, about the imperative for diversity and flexibility in education, and the systemic inequalities that the coronavirus pandemic has exposed in America's collegiate system. To learn more about how CNN protects listener privacy, visit cnn.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Aug 2, 202057 min

Amanpour: Tony Blinken, Roberto Azevedo, Maya Soetoro, Yo-Yo Ma and Andy Slavitt

America takes another step away from its international commitments as President Trump approves the removal of nearly 12,000 troops from Germany. With U.S. global leadership under the spotlight, Christiane Amanpour speaks to Tony Blinken, senior foreign policy advisor to Joe Biden, about the upcoming U.S. election and America’s international responsibilities. Director General of the World Trade Organization Roberto Azevedo reflects on the "grim" prospects for the world economy post-Covid, his "challenging" relationship with President Trump and his decision to step down from WTO leadership. Cellist Yo-Yo Ma and co-founder of The Peace Studio Maya Soetoro discuss the link between music and peace and explain how sound gives physical comfort in times of trouble. And our Hari Sreenivasan speaks to Andy Slavitt, former acting administrator of the centers for Medicare and Medicaid services, about his new podcast "In the Bubble with Andy Slavitt" and why he thinks that trust is key to turn the tide on America’s battle with Covid-19. To learn more about how CNN protects listener privacy, visit cnn.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Aug 2, 202058 min

Amanpour: Tim Bray, Shoshana Zuboff, Fary and Carl Zimmer

CEOs from four of the world’s most powerful companies - Amazon, Apple, Facebook and Google - faced a grilling before US Congress on Wednesday, asked to explain how their vast empires and business practices are reshaping the world we live in. Former Amazon Vice President Tim Bray, and author of "The Age of Surveillance Capitalism", Shoshana Zuboff, join Christiane Amanpour to discuss the role and responsibilities of big tech. Then French comedian Fary talks candidly about the myth of his country's colourblind ideal, and his recent project 'Hexagone'. And our Walter Isaacson speaks to Carl Zimmer, award-winning science writer and New York Times columnist, about the race for a coronavirus vaccine and the diverging approaches being taken. To learn more about how CNN protects listener privacy, visit cnn.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Jul 31, 202059 min

Amanpour: Russ Feingold, Paul Rosenzweig, Jacqueline Novogratz and Eduardo Padrón

Progressive icon Russ Feingold and former Homeland Security official Paul Rosenzweig join Christiane Amanpour to assess the impact of Attorney General William Barr on American justice. Then Jacqueline Novogratz, CEO of Acumen and author of "Manifesto for a Moral Revolution", calls for a moral revolution. She argues why we need to change our values to help the most vulnerable. And our Walter Isaacson speaks to Eduardo Padrón, president emeritus of Miami Dade College, about the diversity and inclusivity of his college, the life changing importance of education and how it's being impacted by coronavirus. To learn more about how CNN protects listener privacy, visit cnn.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Jul 29, 202056 min

Amanpour: Jerry Brown, Joachim Kersten, Neil Gross and Margaret Sullivan

Jerry Brown, the former California Governor, joins Christiane Amanpour to discuss President Trump’s decision to send federal agents into Portland to quell the unrest. He says this is unprecedented and ‘pure politics’. Joachim Kersten, chair of police science at the German Police University, and Neil Gross, sociology professor at Colby College, talk about what America can learn from German policing. They trace how Germany changed its police training after World War II. Then our Michel Martin speaks to Margaret Sullivan, media columnist at The Washington Post and author of "Ghosting the News", about the impact of coronavirus on local journalism. To learn more about how CNN protects listener privacy, visit cnn.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Jul 28, 202056 min

Amanpour: Steve Leifman, Norm Orstein, Amma Asante and Charles Stewart

Judge Steve Leifman and political scientist Norm Ornstein, the men behind PBS documentary “The Definition of Insanity”, join Christiane Amanpour to discuss Miami-Dade County’s ground-breaking Jail Diversion Program that uses empathy to decriminalize the mentally ill. Then director Amma Asante reflects on making new series "Mrs. America" that examines the controversial 1970s anti-feminist Phyllis Schlafly. She also reveals her experience as a part of the 1% of black and female British directors. And as the November election draws ever closer and many states are expanding the use of postal voting in an effort to keep people safe amid the pandemic, our Hari Sreenivasan talks to Charles Stewart, professor of political science at MIT, about why this has become so politically charged. To learn more about how CNN protects listener privacy, visit cnn.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Jul 27, 202057 min

Amanpour: Wendy Sherman, Dr. Anders Tegnell, Heidi Larson and Jason Stanley

Wendy Sherman, the director for Center for Public Leadership at Harvard Kennedy School and former diplomat, speaks to Christiane Amanpour about the decision to close the Chinese consulate. She argues it was an overreach. Now, Sweden have a had an usual approach to lockdown; at first they had very few deaths and no lockdown was imposed, but as their mortality rate is increasing they are facing harsh criticism. Dr. Anders Tegnell, Sweden's chief epidemiologist, defends Sweden’s policy. Since the coronavirus pandemic began, the race for a vaccine has been on. But will everyone take it once it becomes available? Heidi Larson, director of The Vaccine Confidence Project, explains where vaccine hesitancy comes from, and how to restore public faith in medicine. Then our Hari Sreenivasan talks to Jason Stanley, Yale philosophy professor and author of "How Fascism Works", about the inner mechanics of fascism and the forces that drive dictatorship, including worrying signs of fascism on the rise in the U.S. To learn more about how CNN protects listener privacy, visit cnn.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Jul 24, 202057 min

Amanpour: Bernie Sanders, Marjane Satrapi and Thomas Chatterton Williams

Senator Bernie Sanders joins Christiane Amanpour in an exclusive interview about his presidential run, Covid-19, Trump, and the shape of Democratic politics. He explains why he thinks Joe Biden has made significant movement in a progressive direction. Then filmmaker and author Marjane Satrapi talks about directing “Radioactive”, a new biopic that showcases the complicated genius and life story of Marie Curie. An open letter recently published in Harper’s Magazine argues that cancel culture threatens free speech. The letter’s co-author, Thomas Chatterton Williams, speaks to our Walter Isaacson about the toxic culture of cancelling versus the very necessary calling out of those who have overstepped the line. And finally, we give you a snippet of a previously unheard Rolling Stones song. To learn more about how CNN protects listener privacy, visit cnn.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Jul 23, 202057 min

Amanpour: Devi Sridhar, Larry Hogan and Keisha Lance Bottoms

As Oxford University take a huge step forward in the hunt for an effective vaccine against Covid-19, Devi Sridhar, Professor of Global Public Health at Edinburgh University, joins Christiane Amanpour to explain how coronavirus can cause long term damage, even for young people with no underlying health conditions, and why countries across the world must prepare for winter. Then Maryland Governor Larry Hogan warns that testing shortages could make the situation even worse. Our Walter Isaacson speaks to the Mayor of Atlanta Keisha Lance Bottoms, who is also reportedly on Joe Biden's short list for presidential running mates about the heated mask debate in the United States, and why she opposes defunding the police. And finally, we tell you about the massive sperm whale trapped in an illegal fishing net and the valiant efforts the Italian coastguard are doing to free it. To learn more about how CNN protects listener privacy, visit cnn.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Jul 22, 202057 min

Amanpour: James Clyburn, Nathan Law, Alan Hoo and Zerlina Maxwell

Democratic Congressman James Clyburn joins Christiane Amanpour to discuss the life and legacy of the late John Lewis as well as the violence in Portland, Oregon. Then Hong Kong pro-democracy activist and politician Nathan Law unpacks the new national security law introduced by Beijing and how he was forced to flee his home. But Alan Hoo, vice chair of the Hong Kong Liberal Party, pushes back and defends the controversial law. Our Michel Martin speaks to Zerlina Maxwell, author of “The End of White Politics”, about why Joe Biden should pick a black woman as his running mate. And finally – we tell you about the ground-breaking coronavirus vaccine developed in Oxford that is offering up some hope for the future. To learn more about how CNN protects listener privacy, visit cnn.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Jul 21, 202057 min

Amanpour: Petra Costa, Dawn Porter and Dr. Sean O'Leary

As the number of COVID-19 cases in in Brazil surpasses 2 million, Petra Costa, director of "The Edge of Democracy", joins Christiane Amanpour from Sao Paulo to discuss the state of the nation’s health and democracy. Then Dawn Porter, director of "John Lewis: Good Trouble", reflects on the extraordinary life and career of the civil rights icon. Our Hari Sreenivasan also speaks to Dr. Sean O'Leary, vice chair of the American Academy of Pediatrics Committee on Infectious Diseases, about how children are affected by coronavirus. And finally – arise Sir Tom Moore! The UK’s beloved Captain is knighted by the Queen for his contribution to the NHS in a special investiture. To learn more about how CNN protects listener privacy, visit cnn.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Jul 20, 202057 min

Amanpour: Tim Harford, Hannah Gadsby and Randi Weingarten

Tim Harford, the economist and journalist, joins Christiane Amanpour to discuss our failure to prepare for disasters like covid-19 and hurricane Katrina and how government often mistake near misses for false alarms. Then Australian comedian Hannah Gadsby who shot to international fame with her pioneering stand-up show “Nanette” in 2018, talks about reclaiming her narrative from trauma. Our Hari Sreenivasan speaks to Randi Weingarten, president of American Federation of Teachers, about how major school distrcits like Los Angeles and San Diego will stay called in the fall, despite pressure from the white house to reopen. And finally we end with Billy Joel making music out of another man’s trash. To learn more about how CNN protects listener privacy, visit cnn.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Jul 17, 202056 min

Amanpour: Giuseppe Sala, LaToya Cantrell, Sarah Longwell and Mehrsa Baradaran

Mayors Giuseppe Sala and LaToya Cantrell, of Milan and New Orleans respectively, join Christiane Amanpour to discuss how their cities are dealing with coronavirus pandemic. They reveal their agenda for a green and just recovery after covid. Groups like Republican Voters Against Trump are trying to convince party members to abandon the president. The co-founder Sarah Longwell talks candidly about her hopes for the November election. Then our Michel Martin speaks to Mehrsa Baradaran, law professor and author of “The Color of Money”, about how black communities have been systemically shut out of the banking system causing a vast racial wealth gap. And finally, since slave trader Edward Colston’s statue was toppled in Bristol, his plinth has stood empty. We explain how an artist has now replaced it with a symbol of the black lives matter movement. To learn more about how CNN protects listener privacy, visit cnn.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Jul 16, 202057 min

Amanpour: Richard Hatchett, Deborah Peterson Small, Khalil Gibran Muhammad and Janet Napolitano

As the coronavirus pandemic and the race for the vaccine continues, Richard Hatchett, the CEO of Coalition for Epidemic Preparedness Innovations, joins Christiane Amanpour to discuss how any vaccine must go to those most at risk. Then history professor Khalil Gibran Muhammad and activist Deborah Peterson Small trace the stain of racism in the criminal justice system from slavery to now. Our Walter Isaacson speaks to Janet Napolitano, the first female president of of University of California, about whether to reopen schools and universities this fall. And finally – we reveal what infamous yet secretive street artist Banksy has been up to on London’s underground. To learn more about how CNN protects listener privacy, visit cnn.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Jul 15, 202056 min

Amanpour: Beto O'Rourke, Ed Yong, Vincent R. Stewart, Margo Price and Jeremy Ivey

Beto O'Rourke, former Democratic congressman and presidential candidate, joins Christiane Amanpour from El Paso, Texas to discuss the spike in cases across several states in the United States. He says Trump’s leadership is ‘deadly and dangerous’. Then Ed Yong, staff writer at The Atlantic, argues why this surge was predictable and preventable. And from one pandemic to another – our Walter Isaacson speaks to retired general Vincent R. Stewart about racism in America. Stewart, the first African American director of the U.S. Defense Intelligence Agency, talks about his experiences of racial prejudice and how he was compelled to say enough is enough in his recent op ed. And finally, anti-establishment singer-songwriter Margo Price reflects on country music, gender inequality and racism in 2020 America and why she’s not afraid to rail against it. To end the show, her husband and fellow band mate Jeremy Ivey joins to perform “Gone to Stay” from their new album. To learn more about how CNN protects listener privacy, visit cnn.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Jul 14, 202057 min

Amanpour: Aalaya Eastmond, Alicia Garza, Lemn Sissay, Annette Gordon-Reed and Jon Meacham

Aalaya Eastmond, activist and Parkland school shooting survivor, and Alicia Garza, the co-founder of the Black Lives Matter movement, join Christiane Amanpour to discuss the intergenerational fight for racial justice and the exhaustion of being a black woman today. Lemn Sissay, the acclaimed British poet and author of “My Name is Why,” talks candidly about his harrowing journey in search of his true identity after he was stolen from his Ethiopian birth mother in 1967. He details the racism he experienced growing up with a foster family who then rejected him after 12 years of calling him son. Then, our Walter Isaacson speaks to Pulitzer prize-winning historians Annette Gordon-Reed and Jon Meacham to unpack the contradictions of one of America’s founding fathers: Thomas Jefferson, slave owner and advocate for equality. They pick up the discussion of the moment: whether to take down statues that, for many, are symbols of oppression and embody hundreds of years of systemic racism. To learn more about how CNN protects listener privacy, visit cnn.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Jun 27, 202056 min

Amanpour: Tzipi Livni, Diana Buttu, Mary Jordan and DJ Patil

Former Israeli Foreign Minister Tzipi Livni joins Christiane Amanpour to discuss tensions between Israel and Palestine. She warns that if Israel annexes Palestinian territory unilaterally, it's giving up hope for peace in the future and making a huge historical mistake. Palestinian human rights lawyer and former adviser to the PLO Diana Buttu weighs in, arguing that if Israel go ahead with the annexation, they are breaking international law and must be held accountable. Mary Jordan, Pulitzer prize-winning journalist and author of "The Art of Her Deal," reveals how First Lady Melania Trump used her husband's ascent to renegotiate her prenup and how she influenced the President’s VP pick. Then our Hari Sreenivasan turns back to the coronavirus pandemic with his conversation with DJ Patil, the former U.S. chief data scientist. He explains that Covid-19 isn’t going away and the likelihood of a second wave and how we best mitigate it. To learn more about how CNN protects listener privacy, visit cnn.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Jun 26, 202057 min

Amanpour: Christine Todd Whitman, Faiz Shakir, Glenn Hubbard and Kadir Nelson

Christine Todd Whitman, the former governor of New Jersey, digs into the climate crisis and the upcoming presidential election. Faiz Shakir, the former campaign manager for Bernie Sanders’ 2020 run, and Mark Mckinnon, former presidential adviser, analyse the progressive surge in Tuesday's primaries and what it will mean come November. Then our Walter Isaacson talks to Columbia professor and economist Glenn Hubbard about how we are going to recover economically from the fallout of Covid-19. And finally, Kadir Nelson, the artist and author, reveals the inspiration behind his acclaimed covers for The New Yorker and The Rolling Stone. He talks art, racial justice and politics in this current moment of cultural reckoning. To learn more about how CNN protects listener privacy, visit cnn.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Jun 25, 202057 min

Amanpour: William Cohen, Clifford Stott and Norm Stamper

William Cohen, the veteran Republican and former Defense Secretary, joins Christiane Amanpour to discuss a potential second term for President Trump. He says this would could spell the end of democracy and pave the way for tyranny. Clifford Stott, social psychology professor at Keele University, discusses how to prevent protests turning violent. For example, he explains how officers can and should use dialogue to defuse tensions with large crowds. Then our Michel Martin speaks to Norm Stamper, former Seattle Police chief and author of “To Protect and Serve: How to Fix America's Police,” about the toxic police culture he was once a part of and how best to remedy it. To learn more about how CNN protects listener privacy, visit cnn.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Jun 24, 202057 min

Amanpour: Kristalina Georgieva, Reverend William J. Barber II, Anne Milgram, Matthew Desmond and Afua Hirsch

Kristalina Georgieva, the head of the International Monetary Fund, joins Christiane Amanpour to assess the economic fallout of the coronavirus pandemic. She reveals that the global recession will be worse, and the recovery potentially slower, than currently forecast. Reverend William Barber II, co-chair of the Poor People’s Campaign, highlights the urgent need to combat voter suppression before the 2020 presidential election. He says voting rights are a matter of life and death. Former federal prosecutor Anne Milgram discusses the firing of U.S. attorney Geoffrey Berman; stating the removal was bizarre, political and raises questions that need to be answered by Attorney General Barr. Then our Michel Martin speaks to Princeton professor and author of "Evicted", Matthew Desmond, about the eviction crisis in the United States and how ending up on the street is a very real possibility for many Americans. He lays out how investing in affordable and stable housing is economically beneficial. And finally – today the UK mark Windrush day, a day honoring the contribution of the Windrush Generation who emigrated to the UK after WWII, but many of whom were wrongfully detained and even deported. Afua Hirsch, journalist and author of “Brit(ish), delves into the country's history of systemic racism. To learn more about how CNN protects listener privacy, visit cnn.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Jun 23, 202057 min

Amanpour: Carol Anderson, Eric Foner, Malcolm Gladwell and Lonnie Bunch

Today is “Juneteenth” in the United States; a holiday that celebrates the emancipation of America’s slaves. Historians Carol Anderson and Eric Foner join Christiane Amanpour to unpack this historic day and the legacy of systemic racism that is still felt today. They explore the patterns of both progress and backlash for black Americans. Malcolm Gladwell, host of "Revisionist History" and author of "Talking to Strangers", discusses police reform and America’s moral shift. Then Walter Isaacson speaks to Lonnie Bunch, the first African American to oversee The Smithsonian Institution and head of the National Museum of African American History and Culture, about the tragic story of 14-year-old Emmett till who was lynched in 1955. He says slavery is embedded in everything and highlights the importance learning from our brutal history. And finally – we mark the graduation of Malala Yousafzai, who despite being targeted by the Taliban 8 years ago, now holds a degree from one of the most prestigious universities in the world. To learn more about how CNN protects listener privacy, visit cnn.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Jun 20, 202057 min

Amanpour: Jim Sciutto, Gabriela Jauregui, Farnaz Fassihi. Dr. Larry Brilliant

Jim Sciutto, CNN’s security correspondent and author of "The Madman Theory: Trump Takes on the World," joins Christiane Amanpour to unpack former national security adviser John Bolton’s explosive new memoir detailing his time in the White House by Trump’s side. Sciutto digs into Bolton’s motives and questions why he did not protest more loudly about the President’s behavior at the time and when testifying under oath. Since lockdown, rates of domestic violence around the world have spiked and nations with already poor records on women’s rights are seeing increased rates of femicide. Gabriela Jauregui, author and women's rights activist from Mexico, and Farnaz Fassihi, the New York Times journalist, explain the ‘shadow pandemic’ of violence against women in Mexico and Iran. Physician and epidemiologist Dr. Larry Brilliant has been sounding the alarm about pandemics for years; he speaks to our Walter Isaacson about working for the W.H.O in India and the lessons he learnt eradicating the smallpox virus. To learn more about how CNN protects listener privacy, visit cnn.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Jun 19, 202056 min

Amanpour: Guillermo Galdos, Julio Frenk, Raj Chetty and LZ Granderson

Journalist Guillermo Galdos takes us with her on her harrowing journey escaping from Latin America’s Covid-19 epicenter in Lima, Peru. Many have been left unemployed as a result of the pandemic and are being forced to leave the capital. Julio Frenk, president of University of Miami and former health minister of Mexico, explains the impact of coronavirus in the continent and why populism is dangerous to public health. Then our Hari Sreenivasan talks to Harvard economics professor Raj Chetty about the economic fallout of covid-19 and how his new index that assess employment and wages in the United States reveals some surprising facts. And finally, LZ Granderson, sports and culture columnist at the Los Angeles Times, digs into the politics of sport and why white athletes must take a stand against racism and police brutality. To learn more about how CNN protects listener privacy, visit cnn.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Jun 18, 202056 min

Amanpour: Kay Bailey Hutchison, Chile Eboe-Osuji, Rob Schenck, Amos Nachoum and Yonatan Nir

President Trump has announced his intention to pull out 9,500 American troops from Germany. Kay Bailey Hutchison, the U.S. Ambassador to NATO, joins Christiane Amanpour to unpack this latest development in American policy. She reveals that this won’t be happening right away. Judge and President of the International Criminal Court Chile Eboe-Osuji discusses an investigation into whether US forces committed war crimes in Afghanistan and says he hopes the U.S. stop their trend of attacking the ICC. A key base of support in Trump’s corner has always been white, evangelical Christians – our Michel Martin speaks to a minister from that very group: Rob Schenck. Once part of an aggressive wing of the anti-abortion movement, he talks about rejecting divisive and zealous rhetoric in these already divisive times. And finally, Amos Nachoum, Wildlife Photographer, and Yonatan Nir, co-director, "Picture of His Life", reflect on teaming up on a quest to photograph a polar bar whilst swimming with it. Some much needed visual escapism whilst in lockdown. To learn more about how CNN protects listener privacy, visit cnn.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Jun 18, 202056 min

Amanpour: Valerie Amos, David Simon and Phillip Atiba Goff

As anti-racist protests continue around the world, Valerie Amos, director of SOAS and soon to be the first black head of an Oxford college, talks to Christiane Amanpour about the UK Prime Minister’s new commission on race inequality and the urgent need to decolonize our curriculum. Since the death of George Floyd, we have been going through a cultural reckoning, questioning what TV shows we watch and the language we use. David Simon, creator of celebrated HBO series “The Wire”, talks about the impact of cop shows have on the imagination. Simon has covered American policing for decades and argues that the real issue lies in the misguided war on drugs and the militarization of the police. Our Michel Martin speaks to Phillip Atiba Goff, the co-founder and CEO of Center for Policing Equity, about fighting implicit biases in police departments. He explains how his team are working in collaboration with law enforcement and in communities to prevent more unnecessary deaths. And finally, we unpack the photo that everyone is talking about: a black man carrying a white man to safety at Saturday’s far-right counter-protest in London and we end on Kennedy Mitchum’s success revising Merriam Webster’s definition of racism. To learn more about how CNN protects listener privacy, visit cnn.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Jun 16, 202056 min

Amanpour: Darren Walker, Richard Parsons, Patrick Robinson and Robin DiAngelo

In 2020 black Americans are worse off than white Americans by every metric. The demand for economic equality has been a rallying cry for the Black Lives Matter movement and a critical gaze is now turning to corporate America, where only four CEOs of Fortune 500 companies are black, all of whom are men. Christiane Amanpour speaks to two men who have lived this reality, Darren Walker, President of the Ford Foundation, and Richard Parsons, former Chairman and CEO of Time Warner. Then, as Britain continues to address its colonial past, an aptly timed BBC drama “Sitting in Limbo”, has been released. It tells the story of the 2017 Windrush scandal, when a generation of British subjects from the Caribbean were wrongly detained or deported as part of the British government’s ‘hostile environment policy’. Star of the drama Patrick Robinson gives his perspective on the present moment, and the work that Britain still needs to do. And then, in 2018 Michel Martin spoke to author Robin DiAngelo about her book “White Fragility”. Finding even greater relevance today, the book is back on numerous best-seller lists and in an extended cut of the original interview, they discuss unconscious biases and why white people are often defensive when it comes to talking about race. To learn more about how CNN protects listener privacy, visit cnn.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Jun 15, 202058 min