All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg

(0:00) Introducing Secretary Wright (1:09) Nuclear, China's approach (4:02) Increasing energy output, how the climate change complex slowed us down, problems with solar and wind (11:32) Debating renewables vs nat gas and coal (18:40) Chamath's energy framework (21:42) Addressing challenges: budget cuts to research labs, residential energy cost increases due to datacenter demand, speeding up nuclear development Thanks to our partners for making this happen! Solana - Solana is the high performance network powering internet capital markets, payments, and crypto applications. Connect with investors, crypto founders, and entrepreneurs at Solana's global flagship event during Abu Dhabi Finance Week & F1: solana.com/breakpoint. https://solana.com/ OKX - The new way to build your crypto portfolio and use it in daily life. We call it the new money app. https://www.okx.com/ Google Cloud - The next generation of unicorns is building on Google Cloud's industry-leading, fully integrated AI stack: infrastructure, platform, models, agents, and data. https://cloud.google.com/ IREN - IREN AI Cloud, powered by NVIDIA GPUs, provides the scale, performance, and reliability to accelerate your AI journey. https://iren.com/ Oracle - Step into the future of enterprise productivity at Oracle AI Experience Live. https://www.oracle.com/ Circle - The America-based company behind USDC — a fully-reserved, enterprise-grade stablecoin at the core of the emerging internet financial system. https://www.circle.com/ BVNK - Building stablecoin-powered financial infrastructure that helps businesses send, store, and spend value instantly, anywhere in the world. https://www.bvnk.com/ Polymarket: https://www.polymarket.com/ Follow Secretary Wright: https://x.com/SecretaryWright Follow the besties: https://x.com/chamath https://x.com/Jason https://x.com/DavidSacks https://x.com/friedberg Follow on X: https://x.com/theallinpod Follow on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theallinpod Follow on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@theallinpod Follow on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/allinpod Intro Music Credit: https://rb.gy/tppkzl https://x.com/yung_spielburg Intro Video Credit: https://x.com/TheZachEffect

(0:00) Bestie intros (0:52) Behind the scenes of the White House Tech Dinner! (28:39) Tariff showdown headed to the Supreme Court (42:44) Other Trump Administration legal battles (46:58) Weak jobs report: what is the state of the economy? (57:52) Google avoids worst-case scenario in antitrust case Follow the besties: https://x.com/chamath https://x.com/Jason https://x.com/DavidSacks https://x.com/friedberg Follow on X: https://x.com/theallinpod Follow on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theallinpod Follow on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@theallinpod Follow on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/allinpod Intro Music Credit: https://rb.gy/tppkzl https://x.com/yung_spielburg Intro Video Credit: https://x.com/TheZachEffect Referenced in the show: https://x.com/EdLudlow/status/1963763066988110177 https://www.whitehouse.gov/articles/2025/09/president-trump-tech-leaders-unite-american-ai-dominance https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=opn9soJ5TYM&t=11s https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/115119151783895076 https://www.congress.gov/bill/94th-congress/house-bill/3884 https://www.cbo.gov/publication/61697 https://x.com/tkl_adam/status/1963961233368924464 https://www.cbsnews.com/news/jobs-report-today-august-2025-three-takeways-federal-reserve https://www.cnbc.com/2025/09/02/google-antitrust-search-ruling.html https://polymarket.com/event/us-recession-in-2025?tid=1757216927232 https://www.wsj.com/opinion/google-antitrust-lawsuit-artificial-intelligence-amit-mehta-doj-trump-administration-d3b675b4

(0:00) David Friedberg welcomes Senator Rand Paul: background, family, what led him to medicine first (3:56) Career Change: Medicine to Politics (7:03) Political Philosophy (10:55) Trade Policy & Economic Impact (15:52) Consequences of Tariffs (20:43) Voting Against the One Big Beautiful Bill (27:52) AI & the Economy (35:10) Our Fragile Financial System (41:22) Government Employment & Appropriate Spending (48:18) COVID Cover Up & Dangers of Gain-of-function Research (1:01:00) Relations with China (1:05:52) Political Future Follow Senator Paul: https://x.com/senrandpaul Check out Deception: The Great Covid Cover-Up: https://www.amazon.com/Deception-Great-Cover-Up-Rand-Paul/dp/1684515130 Follow the besties: https://x.com/chamath https://x.com/Jason https://x.com/DavidSacks https://x.com/friedberg Follow on X: https://x.com/theallinpod Follow on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theallinpod Follow on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@theallinpod Follow on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/allinpod Intro Music Credit: https://rb.gy/tppkzl https://x.com/yung_spielburg Intro Video Credit: https://x.com/TheZachEffect

(0:00) Bestie intros: The Moose is loose at J-Cal Ranch! (0:46) All-In Summit updates, Jason's new program (9:45) Trump vs the Federal Reserve: Is the Fed partisan, what should a modern Fed look like? (36:45) US-Intel Deal: Sustainability, China comparison, could deals like this save Social Security? (51:37) US Sovereign Wealth Fund (58:41) Why corporate bankruptcies are trending up in 2025 (1:12:12) OpenAI's novel LLM-based approach to longevity research Join us at the All-In Summit: https://allin.com/summit Summit scholarship application: http://bit.ly/4kyZqFJ Get The Besties All-In Tequila: https://tequila.allin.com Follow the besties: https://x.com/chamath https://x.com/Jason https://x.com/DavidSacks https://x.com/friedberg Follow on X: https://x.com/theallinpod Follow on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theallinpod Follow on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@theallinpod Follow on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/allinpod Intro Music Credit: https://rb.gy/tppkzl https://x.com/yung_spielburg Intro Video Credit: https://x.com/TheZachEffect Referenced in the show: https://www.mena.launch.co https://www.politico.com/news/2025/08/25/trump-says-hes-firing-federal-reserve-governor-lisa-cook-00523841 https://www.nytimes.com/2025/08/28/us/politics/lisa-cook-trump-fed-lawsuit.html https://www.housingwire.com/articles/pulte-cook-new-criminal-referral-mortgage-fraud https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/115092130707196133 https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-08-28/us-puts-gdp-data-on-the-blockchain-in-trump-crypto-push https://www.cnbc.com/2021/06/10/cpi-may-2021.html https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-06-05/yellen-sees-recent-inflation-as-transitory-rather-than-permanent https://www.federalreserve.gov/newsevents/speech/powell20210827a.htm https://www.npr.org/2021/11/22/1052741845/biden-reappoints-jerome-powell-as-federal-reserve https://blockworks.co/news/powell-we-can-retire-the-term-transitory-inflation https://www.statista.com/chart/28437/interest-rate-hikes-in-past-tightening-cycles https://www.firstlinks.com.au/druckenmiller-biggest-mistake-history-fed https://www.pbs.org/newshour/economy/u-s-inflation-at-9-1-percent-a-record-high https://www.reuters.com/markets/us/futures-slip-last-trading-day-torrid-year-2022-12-30 https://www.warren.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/warren_hickenlooper_whitehouse_letter_to_fed_re_september_rate_cut.pdf https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2025/08/22/trump-says-intel-ceo-agreed-give-us-government-10-billion https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/114987288040725570 https://www.dallasnews.com/opinion/commentary/2025/08/08/time-for-a-pledge-to-control-government-spending https://www.spglobal.com/market-intelligence/en/news-insights/articles/2025/8/july-us-corporate-bankruptcy-filings-hit-highest-monthly-total-in-5-years-91873904 https://x.com/Pavel_Asparagus/status/1960369680457113764 https://demo.trypicnic.com https://seekingalpha.com/news/4490024-q2-gdp-growth-revised-higher-to-33-pce-increase-revised-lower-to-20 https://www.wsj.com/real-estate/commercial/the-bill-is-coming-due-on-a-record-amount-of-commercial-real-estate-debt-451ec8cb https://openai.com/index/accelerating-life-sciences-research-with-retro-biosciences

(0:00) Bestie intros (1:59) What's new with the All-In Summit (9:02) AI Mania hits the brakes: sign of a bubble or a healthy correction? (30:49) Meta's AI hiring freeze: are the AI talent wars slowing down? (39:09) Gavin Newsom is the early favorite to be the 2028 Democratic nominee (54:03) Russia/Ukraine: Trump's two summits, what endgame to expect? Join us at the All-In Summit: https://allin.com/summit Summit scholarship application: http://bit.ly/4kyZqFJ Get The Besties All-In Tequila: https://tequila.allin.com Follow the besties: https://x.com/chamath https://x.com/Jason https://x.com/DavidSacks https://x.com/friedberg Follow on X: https://x.com/theallinpod Follow on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theallinpod Follow on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@theallinpod Follow on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/allinpod Intro Music Credit: https://rb.gy/tppkzl https://x.com/yung_spielburg Intro Video Credit: https://x.com/TheZachEffect Referenced in the show: https://x.com/autismcapital/status/1958566758719398351 https://fortune.com/2025/08/18/mit-report-95-percent-generative-ai-pilots-at-companies-failing-cfo https://www.cnbc.com/2025/08/18/openai-sam-altman-warns-ai-market-is-in-a-bubble.html https://www.theverge.com/command-line-newsletter/759897/sam-altman-chatgpt-openai-social-media-google-chrome-interview https://www.nytimes.com/2025/08/19/technology/mark-zuckerberg-meta-ai.html https://www.wsj.com/tech/ai/meta-ai-hiring-freeze-fda6b3c4 https://www.cnbc.com/2025/06/19/meta-tried-to-buy-safe-superintelligence-hired-ceo-daniel-gross.html https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/12/technology/meta-scale-ai.html https://www.cnbc.com/2025/06/18/sam-altman-says-meta-tried-to-poach-openai-staff-with-100-million-bonuses-mark-zuckerberg.html https://polymarket.com/event/democratic-presidential-nominee-2028 https://www.politico.com/f/?id=00000198-c46f-da96-abff-d66f4c1e0000 https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20250820615513/en/Statement-from-Marcus-Lemonis-Executive-Chairman-of-Bed-Bath-Beyond https://news.gallup.com/poll/693203/ukrainian-support-war-effort-collapses.aspx

(0:00) Sacks and Jason welcome Senator Eric Schmitt (2:34) Biden v. Missouri, uncovering government censorship as Missouri AG (6:06) Section 230 and social media, the legacy of Russiagate, big tech censorship in the age of AI (18:44) Behind the Hunter Biden laptop story and COVID censorship (30:17) The NGO "Leviathan" and how censorship requests were laundered, Hamilton 68 (36:38) Russiagate and the Obama intel report on the 2016 Election (47:15) Russia-Ukraine War, possible peace deal, and US foreign policy Buy The Last Line of Defense: How to Beat the Left in Court: https://www.harpercollins.com/products/the-last-line-of-defense-eric-schmitt Follow Senator Schmitt: https://x.com/senericschmitt Follow the besties: https://x.com/chamath https://x.com/Jason https://x.com/DavidSacks https://x.com/friedberg Follow on X: https://x.com/theallinpod Follow on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theallinpod Follow on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@theallinpod Follow on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/allinpod Intro Music Credit: https://rb.gy/tppkzl https://x.com/yung_spielburg Intro Video Credit: https://x.com/TheZachEffect

(0:00) Bestie intros! (4:45) AI Psychosis: what it looks like and why it's happening (20:13) Why the social fabric in America is breaking down (35:55) Fixing the incentives that created the student debt crisis (48:52) Trump takes federal control of DC police (1:05:39) Venture Capital: is it broken and what it will look like in the future? Follow the besties: https://x.com/chamath https://x.com/Jason https://x.com/DavidSacks https://x.com/friedberg Follow on X: https://x.com/theallinpod Follow on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theallinpod Follow on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@theallinpod Follow on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/allinpod Intro Music Credit: https://rb.gy/tppkzl https://x.com/yung_spielburg Intro Video Credit: https://x.com/TheZachEffect Referenced in the show: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/urban-survival/202507/the-emerging-problem-of-ai-psychosis https://openai.com/index/how-we%27re-optimizing-chatgpt https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25910392 https://www.reddit.com/r/MyBoyfriendIsAI https://time.com/7307589/ai-psychosis-chatgpt-mental-health https://x.com/jburnmurdoch/status/1953811277463122162 https://www.nimh.nih.gov/health/statistics/major-depression https://www.visualcapitalist.com/inflation-chart-tracks-price-changes-us-goods-services https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PtX8BNLn_c https://nypost.com/2021/05/01/teachers-union-collaborated-with-cdc-on-school-reopening-emails https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/trump-threatens-federal-takeover-of-dc-after-attack-on-former-doge-worker https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/08/declaring-a-crime-emergency-in-the-district-of-columbia https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/dc-police-commander-suspended-crime-statistics/3959566/ https://x.com/greg_price11/status/1955292615420588495 https://www.kvue.com/article/news/local/homeless/austin-homeless-heal-initiative-highway-183-oak-knoll-relocation/269-d09e5261-6b52-42c0-a550-a3dcf16fa6e7 https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2025/06/24/fannie-mae-freddie-mac-privatization/84342221007 https://www.reuters.com/business/openai-eyes-500-billion-valuation-potential-employee-share-sale-source-says-2025-08-06

(0:00) Bestie intros! Gavin Baker, Ben Shapiro, and Phil Deutch join the show (7:32) GPT-5 underwhelms, benchmark saturation, OpenAI's product excellence (18:14) AI's TAM, ROIC, and energy implications (27:27) China's major advantage and how the US can counter it (43:46) Political parties picking winners, energy subsidy reversal, how the bureaucratic branch was created and how to fix it (52:38) Socialism, OBBB impact on energy, does socialism in the US rely on Mamdani in NYC? (1:10:00) Tariffs update: $125B+ revenue so far, India and Switzerland hit hard, Trump's ad hoc approach (1:27:51) Nvidia chips being smuggled to China (1:31:13) Apple's $700B in buybacks since 2015 and failing AI strategy (1:40:09) Summer reading recommendations Join us at the All-In Summit: https://allin.com/summit Summit scholarship application: http://bit.ly/4kyZqFJ Get The Besties All-In Tequila: https://tequila.allin.com Follow Ben: https://x.com/benshapiro Follow Gavin: https://x.com/GavinSBaker Follow Phil: https://x.com/pdeutch Follow the besties: https://x.com/chamath https://x.com/Jason https://x.com/DavidSacks https://x.com/friedberg Follow on X: https://x.com/theallinpod Follow on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theallinpod Follow on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@theallinpod Follow on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/allinpod Intro Music Credit: https://rb.gy/tppkzl https://x.com/yung_spielburg Intro Video Credit: https://x.com/TheZachEffect Referenced in the show: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-08-08/openai-s-gpt-5-met-with-mixed-reviews-confusion-in-first-day https://www.anthropic.com/news/build-ai-in-america https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whE75zEFBpU https://www.census.gov/library/visualizations/time-series/demo/historic.html https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/two-chinese-nationals-arrested-complaint-alleging-they-illegally-shipped-china-sensitive https://www.ft.com/content/6f806f6e-61c1-4b8d-9694-90d7328a7b54

(0:00) Bestie intros! (1:44) Recapping "Winning the AI Race" in DC: Trump's speech, best moments, key takeaways (16:39) AI Executive Orders, unbiased AI, spiciest moments (34:32) Copyright, fair use, and patents in the Age of AI (56:37) Sam Altman highlights AI chatbot privacy issues (1:02:48) Hot GDP print, Fed refuses to cut, major US-EU trade deal Join us at the All-In Summit: https://allin.com/summit Summit scholarship application: http://bit.ly/4kyZqFJ Get The Besties All-In Tequila: https://tequila.allin.com Follow the besties: https://x.com/chamath https://x.com/Jason https://x.com/DavidSacks https://x.com/friedberg Follow on X: https://x.com/theallinpod Follow on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theallinpod Follow on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@theallinpod Follow on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/allinpod Intro Music Credit: https://rb.gy/tppkzl https://x.com/yung_spielburg Intro Video Credit: https://x.com/TheZachEffect Referenced in the show: https://x.com/chamath/status/1950673622059667764 https://www.newsweek.com/microsoft-layoffs-h1b-visa-applications-2094370 https://www.wsj.com/business/media/amazon-to-pay-new-york-times-at-least-20-million-a-year-in-ai-deal-66db8503 https://x.com/simonw/status/1950592653047062578 https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/A191RL1Q225SBEA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYn8VKW6vXA https://www.cnbc.com/2025/07/30/gdp-q2-2025-.html https://www.cnn.com/business/live-news/federal-reserve-interest-rate-07-30-25 https://www.weforum.org/stories/2025/07/the-eu-us-trade-deal-explained-eu-competitiveness https://apps.bea.gov/iTable/?reqid=19&step=3&isuri=1&1921=survey&1903=84 https://www.google.com/finance/quote/SPY:NYSEARCA

(0:00) President Trump on the AI Agenda (54:14) Executive Order signing Thanks to our partners for making this happen: NYSE : https://www.nyse.com Visa: https://usa.visa.com Follow the besties: https://x.com/chamath https://x.com/Jason https://x.com/DavidSacks https://x.com/friedberg Follow on X: https://x.com/theallinpod Follow on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theallinpod Follow on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@theallinpod Follow on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/allinpod Intro Music Credit: https://rb.gy/tppkzl https://x.com/yung_spielburg Intro Video Credit: https://x.com/TheZachEffect

(0:00) Scott Bessent, Treasury Secretary (17:44) Doug Burgum, Secretary of the Interior and Chris Wright, Energy Secretary (35:11) Howard Lutnick, Commerce Secretary Thanks to our partners for making this happen: NYSE : https://www.nyse.com Visa: https://usa.visa.com Follow the besties: https://x.com/chamath https://x.com/Jason https://x.com/DavidSacks https://x.com/friedberg Follow on X: https://x.com/theallinpod Follow on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theallinpod Follow on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@theallinpod Follow on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/allinpod Intro Music Credit: https://rb.gy/tppkzl https://x.com/yung_spielburg Intro Video Credit: https://x.com/TheZachEffect

(0:00) James Litinsky, MP Materials (13:32) Lisa Su, AMD (29:45) Chase Lochmiller, Crusoe (43:26) Jensen Huang, Nvidia Thanks to our partners for making this happen: NYSE : https://www.nyse.com Visa: https://usa.visa.com Follow the besties: https://x.com/chamath https://x.com/Jason https://x.com/DavidSacks https://x.com/friedberg Follow on X: https://x.com/theallinpod Follow on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theallinpod Follow on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@theallinpod Follow on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/allinpod Intro Music Credit: https://rb.gy/tppkzl https://x.com/yung_spielburg Intro Video Credit: https://x.com/TheZachEffect

(0:00) The Besties welcome JD Vance (1:24) Immigration (6:34) AI policy (9:27) Relationship with China: Technology competition, striking a balance, trade (12:42) Diplomatic relations when AI is at-scale, operating in a multipolar world (16:41) AI's impact on jobs (22:02) Should America facilitate "National Champions" in strategic industries? (24:09) Working at the White House with Sacks Thanks to our partners for making this happen: NYSE : https://www.nyse.com Visa: https://usa.visa.com Follow the besties: https://x.com/chamath https://x.com/Jason https://x.com/DavidSacks https://x.com/friedberg Follow on X: https://x.com/theallinpod Follow on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theallinpod Follow on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@theallinpod Follow on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/allinpod Intro Music Credit: https://rb.gy/tppkzl https://x.com/yung_spielburg Intro Video Credit: https://x.com/TheZachEffect

(0:00) The besties introduce the day with Jacob Helberg (9:08) Michael Kratsios, Director of the Office of Science and Technology Policy (18:24) Chris Power, Hadrian (35:15) Jake Loosararian, Gecko Robotics (44:37) Shyam Sankar, Palantir (1:00:33) Paul Buchheit, Y Combinator (1:13:35) Kelly Loeffler, Administrator of the Small Business Administration Thanks to our partners for making this happen: NYSE : https://www.nyse.com Visa: https://usa.visa.com Follow the besties: https://x.com/chamath https://x.com/Jason https://x.com/DavidSacks https://x.com/friedberg Follow on X: https://x.com/theallinpod Follow on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theallinpod Follow on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@theallinpod Follow on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/allinpod Intro Music Credit: https://rb.gy/tppkzl https://x.com/yung_spielburg Intro Video Credit: https://x.com/TheZachEffect

(0:00) The Besties welcome Gavin Baker! (1:51) Markets: Pricing in tariffs, Trump vs. Powell, solving the debt crisis (19:24) The $10 trillion AGI prize, what artificial general intelligence and superintelligence looks like in the economy (38:33) Sacks and Bo Hines join to discuss the GENIUS Act and the CLARITY Act passing the House this week, and what it means for crypto in the US (52:42) AI Infrastructure: $90B in new investments announced, Nvidia H20 export restrictions lifted (1:06:06) Sacks interviews Senator Bill Hagerty on the passing of the GENIUS Act Follow Gavin Baker: https://x.com/GavinSBaker Follow Bo Hines: https://x.com/bohines Follow Senator Bill Hagerty: https://x.com/SenatorHagerty Get The Besties All-In Tequila: https://tequila.allin.com Join us at the All-In Summit: https://allin.com/summit Summit scholarship application: http://bit.ly/4kyZqFJ Follow the besties: https://x.com/chamath https://x.com/Jason https://x.com/DavidSacks https://x.com/friedberg Follow on X: https://x.com/theallinpod Follow on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theallinpod Follow on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@theallinpod Follow on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/allinpod Intro Music Credit: https://rb.gy/tppkzl https://x.com/yung_spielburg Intro Video Credit: https://x.com/TheZachEffect Referenced in the show: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-07-16/trump-likely-to-fire-powell-soon-white-house-official-says https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/16/us/politics/trump-powell-firing-letter.html https://polymarket.com/event/fed-decision-in-september?tid=1752872350388 https://www.cnbc.com/2025/07/15/cpi-inflation-report-june-2025.html https://www.cnbc.com/quotes/US30Y https://polymarket.com/event/will-trump-remove-jerome-powell https://polymarket.com/event/who-will-trump-announce-as-next-fed-chair?tid=1752854752131 https://www.politico.com/live-updates/2025/07/15/congress/house-gop-crypto-bills-trump-00455645 https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/15/us/politics/trump-ai-pittsburgh-speech.html

(0:00) The Besties welcome Travis Kalanick and Keith Rabois! (3:02) Travis on Pony.ai / Uber rumors and the state of Cloud Kitchens (18:51) xAI launches Grok 4, learning "The Bitter Lesson" in AI (40:36) How Grok can catch ChatGPT in usage, OpenAI's product excellence (46:27) Perplexity and OpenAI building AI-native browsers and taking on Chrome (58:01) Elon's "America Party": is now the right time for a third party, and could he make an impact in 2026? (1:13:12) SCOTUS backs Trump over federal government RIF plans Follow Keith: https://x.com/rabois Follow Travis: https://x.com/travisk Get The Besties All-In Tequila: https://tequila.allin.com Join us at the All-In Summit: https://allin.com/summit Summit scholarship application: http://bit.ly/4kyZqFJ Follow the besties: https://x.com/chamath https://x.com/Jason https://x.com/DavidSacks https://x.com/friedberg Follow on X: https://x.com/theallinpod Follow on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theallinpod Follow on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@theallinpod Follow on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/allinpod Intro Music Credit: https://rb.gy/tppkzl https://x.com/yung_spielburg Intro Video Credit: https://x.com/TheZachEffect Referenced in the show: https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/26/technology/uber-travis-kalanick-self-driving-car-deal.html https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZW5fJikPmfM https://grok.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wTA90BYo30 https://techcrunch.com/2025/01/08/elon-musk-agrees-that-weve-exhausted-ai-training-data https://x.com/ArtificialAnlys/status/1943166841150644622 https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1943192643439337753 http://www.incompleteideas.net/IncIdeas/BitterLesson.html https://x.com/chamath/status/1943177837956968499 https://techcrunch.com/2025/07/09/perplexity-launches-comet-an-ai-powered-web-browser https://x.com/perplexity_ai/status/1942969263305671143 https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1941584569523732930 https://polymarket.com/event/will-elon-register-the-america-party-by https://ropercenter.cornell.edu/presidential-approval/highslows https://news.gallup.com/poll/651278/support-third-political-party-dips.aspx https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/02/implementing-the-presidents-department-of-government-efficiency-workforce-optimization-initiative https://www.scotusblog.com/2025/07/supreme-court-allows-trump-administration-to-implement-plans-to-significantly-reduce-the-federal-workforce https://www.afge.org/article/summary-of-afge-lawsuits-against-trump--how-litigation-works https://cei.org/publication/10kc-2025-numbers-of-rules https://www.netflix.com/tudum/articles/american-manhunt-osama-bin-laden-release-date-news

(0:00) Bestie intros (2:58) Big Beautiful Bill: Senate revision, AI regulation moratorium killed (14:10) Clean energy subsidies phased out: What this means for energy production in the US (25:12) Elon/Trump; US fiscal picture post-BBB (43:26) US dollar down over 10% in 2025 (53:51) Harvard's money problems: bleeding $1B/year in fight against Trump, potential investigation over bond offerings (1:09:13) Figma IPO, Grammarly acquires Superhuman, future of SaaS in the age of AI Get All-In Tequila: https://tequila.allin.com Join us at All-In Summit: https://allin.com/summit Follow the besties: https://x.com/chamath https://x.com/Jason https://x.com/DavidSacks https://x.com/friedberg Follow on X: https://x.com/theallinpod Follow on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theallinpod Follow on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@theallinpod Follow on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/allinpod Intro Music Credit: https://rb.gy/tppkzl https://x.com/yung_spielburg Intro Video Credit: https://x.com/TheZachEffect Referenced in the show: https://x.com/chamath/status/1939049133362319363 https://www.msn.com/en-in/news/world/jeff-bezos-needed-a-tequila-fix-venture-capitalist-chamath-palihapitiya-sent-a-plane-full-of-it-to-venice/ar-AA1HH5qH https://x.com/Jason/status/1940546432190369871 https://polymarket.com/event/reconciliation-bill-passed-by?tid=1751556469981 https://www.reuters.com/legal/government/us-senate-strikes-ai-regulation-ban-trump-megabill-2025-07-01 https://www.poynter.org/fact-checking/2025/ai-regulation-ban-one-big-beautiful-bill-trump-congress/ https://www.npr.org/2024/09/20/nx-s1-5119792/newsom-ai-bill-california-sb1047-tech https://x.com/chamath/status/1927373268828266795 https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1939762942851027127 https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/trump-says-he-has-struck-trade-deal-with-vietnam-2025-07-02 https://x.com/RayDalio/status/1940507002037240242 https://x.com/balajis/status/1940094433699234181 https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/30/business/dollar-decline-trump.html https://www.thecrimson.com/article/2025/4/8/april-2025-bond-sale https://apnews.com/article/harvard-funding-trump-investigation-students-bca55ab4ec2d344dc6e01caa2af492d8 https://stefanik.house.gov/2025/6/stefanik-asks-sec-to-investigate-harvard-for-potentially-withholding-material-information-from-bondholders https://x.com/cremieuxrecueil/status/1937644999790985324 https://www.wsj.com/us-news/education/harvard-trump-funding-budget-cuts-1dc5bf2f https://techcrunch.com/2025/07/01/grammarly-acquires-ai-email-client-superhuman https://www.reuters.com/business/grammarly-acquires-email-startup-superhuman-ai-platform-push-2025-07-01 https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1579878/000162828025033742/figma-sx1.htm https://www.wired.com/story/mark-zuckerberg-meta-offer-top-ai-talent-300-million https://www.nba.com/news/shai-gilgeous-alexander-contract-extension-2025 https://polymarket.com/event/fed-decision-in-september?tid=1751571922163

(0:00) Bestie intros: The Core Four is back! (1:38) Launching All-In Tequila! (7:01) 12 Day War ends in US-led ceasefire: what it means for the future of the region (29:48) How markets digested the last few weeks in the Middle East, crucial role of energy independence (39:58) Democratic Socialist Zohran Mamdani upsets Andrew Cuomo in the Democratic Primary for NYC Mayor (1:06:02) Science Corner: Stem cell-driven aging reversal out of China (1:18:09) Market at all-time highs after huge turnaround: bull and bear cases; Next Fed chair? (1:32:49) AI Copyright: Anthropic and Meta receive favorable rulings Get All-In Tequila: https://tequila.allin.com Join us at All-In Summit: https://allin.com/summit Follow the besties: https://x.com/chamath https://x.com/Jason https://x.com/DavidSacks https://x.com/friedberg Follow on X: https://x.com/theallinpod Follow on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theallinpod Follow on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@theallinpod Follow on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/allinpod Intro Music Credit: https://rb.gy/tppkzl https://x.com/yung_spielburg Intro Video Credit: https://x.com/TheZachEffect Referenced in the show: https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/nato-secretary-general-calls-trump-daddy/story?id=123197665 https://x.com/whitehouse/status/1938053287535616085 https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2012/09/benjamin-netanyahu-should-be-careful-about-inserting-himself-too-much-into-the-presidential-race-between-barack-obama-and-mitt-romney.html https://x.com/DavidSacks/status/1936973199734079907 https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2025/06/23/exclusive-israel-intelligence-iran-call-audio https://x.com/BillClinton/status/1937937455065293017 https://x.com/chuckschumer/status/1937890929689420209 https://www.cnn.com/2025/06/25/investing/stock-market-record-dow https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/M2SL https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/MMMFFAQ027S https://www.cbsnews.com/news/gdp-report-first-quarter-2025-declined-commerce-department https://polymarket.com/event/fed-decision-in-september?tid=1751083141866 https://polymarket.com/event/who-will-trump-announce-as-next-fed-chair/will-trump-announce-kevin-warsh-as-next-fed-chair-in-2025?tid=1750968570295 https://www.wsj.com/tech/ai/anthropic-lands-partial-victory-in-ai-case-set-to-shape-future-rulings-e3560114 https://www.cnbc.com/2025/06/25/meta-llama-ai-copyright-ruling.html https://www.reuters.com/sustainability/boards-policy-regulation/microsoft-sued-by-authors-over-use-books-ai-training-2025-06-25

(0:00) The Besties welcome Thomas Laffont! (3:26) State of LA, Hollywood's decline, positivity around GDP growth and AI productivity (10:19) Zuck on tilt over AI: $100M offers, Scale AI deal, hiring spree (23:58) Mag 7 AI Showdown: Ranking the most likely AI winners, biggest stock divergences, and more (42:41) Why Apple is fumbling AI and how they can fix it? (57:02) IPOs and M&A heating up in 2025 (1:16:18) State of liquidity: SPACs, Direct Listings, and more (1:25:40) Amazon's "kingmaker" position, job displacement (1:37:47) Sacks joins to discuss the GENIUS Act passing the Senate (1:52:13) Animal trailer Follow Thomas Laffont: https://x.com/thomas_coatue Animal Trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8NNW5r63oXU Follow the besties: https://x.com/chamath https://x.com/Jason https://x.com/DavidSacks https://x.com/friedberg Follow on X: https://x.com/theallinpod Follow on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theallinpod Follow on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@theallinpod Follow on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/allinpod Intro Music Credit: https://rb.gy/tppkzl https://x.com/yung_spielburg Intro Video Credit: https://x.com/TheZachEffect Referenced in the show: https://techcrunch.com/2025/06/17/sam-altman-says-meta-tried-and-failed-to-poach-openais-talent-with-100m-offers https://www.cnbc.com/2025/06/10/zuckerberg-makes-metas-biggest-bet-on-ai-14-billion-scale-ai-deal.html https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/12/technology/meta-scale-ai.html https://scale.com/blog/scale-ai-announces-next-phase-of-company-evolution https://www.reuters.com/business/meta-talks-hire-former-github-ceo-nat-friedman-join-ai-efforts-information-2025-06-18 https://techcrunch.com/2012/09/11/mark-zuckerberg-our-biggest-mistake-with-mobile-was-betting-too-much-on-html5 https://www.reuters.com/technology/china-launch-new-40-bln-state-fund-boost-chip-industry-sources-say-2023-09-05 https://x.com/JoannaStern/status/1933564098291048764 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCEkK1YzqBo https://x.com/chamath/status/1932157508698919320 https://www.renaissancecapital.com/IPO-Center/Stats/Pricings https://www.aboutamazon.com/news/company-news/amazon-ceo-andy-jassy-on-generative-ai https://x.com/chamath/status/1935369326321877153 https://x.com/chamath/status/1935740807925100853 https://www.google.com/finance/quote/COIN:NASDAQ https://www.google.com/finance/quote/SPOT:NYSE https://x.com/ylecun/status/1935108028891861393 https://x.com/ben_j_todd/status/1934284189928501482 https://apnews.com/article/election-2024-senate-ohio-brown-moreno-74c4b91e5866215d4201377fefcadad0 https://companiesmarketcap.com/microsoft/revenue https://apnews.com/article/election-2024-senate-ohio-brown-moreno-74c4b91e5866215d4201377fefcadad0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8NNW5r63oXU

(0:00) The Besties welcome Tony Robbins! (0:23) Tony's background and how it led to his career (8:19) Why progress correlates to happiness, state of the younger generation, biochemistry studies (21:53) SSRIs, psychedelics, importance of personal moonshots (31:49) Maintaining focus while managing multiple businesses (36:37) Thoughts on longevity (42:44) Partner shoutouts: Thanks to OKX, Circle, Polymarket, Solana, BVNK, and Google Cloud! Check out OKX: https://www.okx.com Check out Circle: https://www.circle.com Follow the besties: https://x.com/chamath https://x.com/Jason https://x.com/DavidSacks https://x.com/friedberg Follow on X: https://x.com/theallinpod Follow on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theallinpod Follow on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@theallinpod Follow on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/allinpod Intro Music Credit: https://rb.gy/tppkzl https://x.com/yung_spielburg Intro Video Credit: https://x.com/TheZachEffect

**NOTE: This episode was recorded on Thursday, before the events in the Middle East. All-In will be back to cover this situation next week. (0:00) The Besties welcome Tucker Carlson! (4:25) ICE raids, LA riots, immigration debate (46:08) Strong macro data: inflation, tariff revenue, GDP, jobs (1:14:00) Big, Beautiful Bill update: State of the bill, Senate math, how Trump should handle dissent in Congress (1:29:15) War with Iran? Follow Tucker: https://x.com/TuckerCarlson Follow the besties: https://x.com/chamath https://x.com/Jason https://x.com/DavidSacks https://x.com/friedberg Follow on X: https://x.com/theallinpod Follow on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theallinpod Follow on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@theallinpod Follow on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/allinpod Intro Music Credit: https://rb.gy/tppkzl https://x.com/yung_spielburg Intro Video Credit: https://x.com/TheZachEffect Referenced in the show: https://x.com/opensourcezone/status/1932911958254366989 https://x.com/opensourcezone/status/1932632620140990635 https://x.com/opensourcezone/status/1932563726583882126 https://x.com/opensourcezone/status/1932633885822591032 https://x.com/opensourcezone/status/1932861766456738083 https://x.com/iapolls2022/status/1932476702644387955 https://x.com/iapolls2022/status/1933156707275874743 https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2025/06/09/lapd_chief_we_are_overwhelmed_by_riots_no_limit_to_what_theyre_doing_to_our_officers.html https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB994028904620983237 https://nypost.com/2022/09/16/marthas-vineyard-migrants-sent-to-cape-cod-mass-calls-national-guard https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1931896196836081975 https://nypost.com/2023/08/19/biden-sells-border-wall-parts-to-thwart-gop-push-to-use-them https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/10/us/politics/fetterman-la-protests-anarchy.html https://www.newsweek.com/trump-tariff-revenue-may-2079077 https://www.cnbc.com/2025/06/11/heres-the-inflation-breakdown-for-may-2025-in-one-chart.html https://www.atlantafed.org/cqer/research/gdpnow https://x.com/eliant_capital/status/1932886788030541850 https://bipartisanpolicy.org/report/deficit-tracker https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/11/climate/world-bank-nuclear-power-funding-ban.html https://x.com/DavidSacks/status/1932933894317162546 https://www.jointheresponsibleparty.com/p/coming-soon https://trumpcard.gov

(0:00) David Friedberg welcomes Jared Isaacman (1:10) Jared's background: billion-dollar founder, pilot, commercial astronaut (7:15) Relationship with Elon Musk, road to becoming a commercial astronaut (16:37) Becoming Trump's nominee to lead NASA, the major issues at NASA and his plan to fix things (31:52) Breaking down NASA's proposed budget cuts, the space race against China, private vs public space industry (48:31) The truth behind Jared's nomination being withdrawn by President Trump Follow Jared: https://x.com/rookisaacman Follow the besties: https://x.com/chamath https://x.com/Jason https://x.com/DavidSacks https://x.com/friedberg Follow on X: https://x.com/theallinpod Follow on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theallinpod Follow on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@theallinpod Follow on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/allinpod Intro Music Credit: https://rb.gy/tppkzl https://x.com/yung_spielburg Intro Video Credit: https://x.com/TheZachEffect Referenced in the show: https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/114605559474286180 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pv01sSq44w https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1439412791815950336 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MaJmUUtr2SI

(0:00) The Besties welcome Mayor Francis Suarez! (0:23) How Miami significantly decreased homelessness and homicides (5:17) Formula for turning Miami into America's happiest and healthiest city (10:32) Addressing overregulation at the local level (17:05) Ambitions for his post-Mayor career (21:39) Partner shoutouts: Thanks to OKX, Circle, Polymarket, Solana, BVNK, and Google Cloud! Thanks to our partners for helping make this happen! Check out OKX: https://www.okx.com Check out Circle: https://www.circle.com Follow Mayor Suarez: https://x.com/francissuarez Follow the besties: https://x.com/chamath https://x.com/Jason https://x.com/DavidSacks https://x.com/friedberg Follow on X: https://x.com/theallinpod Follow on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theallinpod Follow on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@theallinpod Follow on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/allinpod Intro Music Credit: https://rb.gy/tppkzl https://x.com/yung_spielburg Intro Video Credit: https://x.com/TheZachEffect

(0:00) Bestie intros! (1:25) The AI Doomer Ecosystem: goals, astroturfing, Biden connections, effective altruist rebrand, global AI regulation (25:17) Doom vs Boom in AI: Job Destruction or Abundance? (52:44) Big, Beautiful Bill cleanup and upside: DOGE angle, CBO issues (1:17:14) US Steel/Nippon Steel deal: national champions and golden votes Follow the besties: https://x.com/chamath https://x.com/Jason https://x.com/DavidSacks https://x.com/friedberg Follow on X: https://x.com/theallinpod Follow on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theallinpod Follow on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@theallinpod Follow on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/allinpod Intro Music Credit: https://rb.gy/tppkzl https://x.com/yung_spielburg Intro Video Credit: https://x.com/TheZachEffect Referenced in the show: https://nypost.com/2025/05/28/business/ai-could-cause-bloodbath-for-white-collar-jobs-spike-unemployment-to-20-anthropic-ceo https://polymarket.com/event/us-enacts-ai-safety-bill-in-2025 https://www.aipanic.news/p/the-ai-existential-risk-industrial https://www.semafor.com/article/05/30/2025/anthropic-emerges-as-an-adversary-to-trumps-big-bill https://x.com/nypost/status/1760623631283954027 https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/02/23/google-gemini-ai-images-wrong-woke https://www.thefp.com/p/ex-google-employees-woke-gemini-culture-broken https://www.campusreform.org/article/biden-admins-new-ai-executive-order-prioritizes-dei/24312 https://x.com/chamath/status/1927847516500009363 https://www.cnbc.com/2025/05/13/microsoft-is-cutting-3percent-of-workers-across-the-software-company.html https://x.com/DavidSacks/status/1927796514337746989 https://x.com/StephenM/status/1926715409807397204 https://x.com/neilksethi/status/1926981646718206243 https://thehill.com/opinion/finance/5320248-the-bond-market-is-missing-the-real-big-beautiful-story https://x.com/chamath/status/1928536987558105122 https://x.com/chamath/status/1927373268828266795 https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/FYFRGDA188S https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/FYONGDA188S https://www.cnbc.com/2025/01/03/biden-blocks-us-steel-takeover-by-japans-nippon-steel-citing-national-security.html https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/114558783827880495

(0:00) The Besties welcome Nico Rosberg! (0:27) Nico's history with F1, what makes a great driver (6:24) The business of F1 (10:05) Teammate rivalries, why "Drive to Survive" works, future growth (16:48) Post-F1 career, best angel investments, becoming a VC (22:16) Partner shoutouts: Thanks to OKX, Circle, Polymarket, Solana, BVNK, and Google Cloud! Check out OKX: https://www.okx.com Check out Circle: https://www.circle.com Follow Nico: https://x.com/nicorosberg Follow the besties: https://x.com/chamath https://x.com/Jason https://x.com/DavidSacks https://x.com/friedberg Follow on X: https://x.com/theallinpod Follow on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theallinpod Follow on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@theallinpod Follow on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/allinpod Intro Music Credit: https://rb.gy/tppkzl https://x.com/yung_spielburg Intro Video Credit: https://x.com/TheZachEffect

(0:00) Friedberg and Chamath welcome Senator Ron Johnson (2:30) The Reconciliation Bill process, how much the Big, Beautiful Bill will add to the national debt (14:33) Problems with growing our way out of debt, why elected officials are avoiding the fiscal reality (24:53) Energy rescissions, future of DOGE (32:09) How Senator Johnson will force a real review of the Big, Beautiful Bill; future of MAGA and the Conservative movement (54:15) Next steps if the Big, Beautiful Bill passes (58:35) Post-interview recap Follow Senator Johnson: https://x.com/RonJohnsonWI Follow the besties: https://x.com/chamath https://x.com/Jason https://x.com/DavidSacks https://x.com/friedberg Follow on X: https://x.com/theallinpod Follow on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theallinpod Follow on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@theallinpod Follow on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/allinpod Intro Music Credit: https://rb.gy/tppkzl https://x.com/yung_spielburg Intro Video Credit: https://x.com/TheZachEffect

(0:00) Today's topics and bestie intros! (2:49) Bond market chaos, GOP abandons DOGE, Trump's big, beautiful bill passes the House (38:15) Google's big week: AI in search, roadmap to diversifying revenue (46:49) OpenAI acquires Jony Ive's design startup for $6.5B (57:09) AI Diplomacy: Sacks breaks down his trip to the Middle East and the datacenter deals (1:15:25) Science Corner: CRISPR breakthrough! (1:23:02) How increased energy production could solve America's fiscal problems Follow the besties: https://x.com/chamath https://x.com/Jason https://x.com/DavidSacks https://x.com/friedberg Follow on X: https://x.com/theallinpod Follow on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theallinpod Follow on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@theallinpod Follow on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/allinpod Intro Music Credit: https://rb.gy/tppkzl https://x.com/yung_spielburg Intro Video Credit: https://x.com/TheZachEffect Referenced in the show: https://www.barrons.com/articles/20-year-treasury-bond-auction-bba9d889 https://www.cnbc.com/quotes/US10Y https://x.com/KobeissiLetter/status/1925253934794342405 https://www.google.com/finance/quote/.INX:INDEXSP?comparison=INDEXDJX%3A.DJI%2CINDEXNASDAQ%3A.IXIC&window=5D https://www.pgpf.org/article/moodys-downgraded-its-us-credit-rating-and-warns-that-recent-policy-decisions-will-worsen-fiscal-outlook/ https://x.com/JessicaBRiedl/status/1925257429408756087 https://www.google.com/finance/quote/BTC-USD https://www.google.com/finance/quote/GCW00:COMEX https://polymarket.com/event/how-many-fed-rate-cuts-in-2025?tid=1747933765493 https://x.com/chamath/status/1925568992959492156 https://x.com/chamath/status/1925590496103342114 https://www.google.com/finance/quote/GOOG:NASDAQ https://blog.google/products/google-one/google-ai-ultra https://www.wsj.com/tech/ai/what-sam-altman-told-openai-about-the-secret-device-hes-making-with-jony-ive-f1384005 https://x.com/BenGeskin/status/1925579528933372198 https://x.com/DavidSacks/status/1924817118370951238 https://mcigroup.my/top-news/malaysia-launches-regions-first-sovereign-full-stack-ai-infrastructure

(0:00) The Besties welcome Antonio Gracias! (0:30) DOGE updates: Government complexity worse than imagined, how to fix it (9:00) Talent acquisition: How Elon attracted 10x engineers for DOGE, a better model for civil service (15:54) Voter fraud findings: illegal immigrants voting in elections, building a zero-defect voting system (22:12) Fixing immigration in the US Thanks to our partners for helping make this happen! Check out OKX: https://www.okx.com Check out Circle: https://www.circle.com Follow Antonio: https://x.com/AntonioGracias Follow the besties: https://x.com/chamath https://x.com/Jason https://x.com/DavidSacks https://x.com/friedberg Follow on X: https://x.com/theallinpod Follow on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theallinpod Follow on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@theallinpod Follow on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/allinpod Intro Music Credit: https://rb.gy/tppkzl https://x.com/yung_spielburg Intro Video Credit: https://x.com/TheZachEffect

(0:00) The Besties welcome Sergey Brin! (0:40) Sergey on his return to Google, and how an OpenAI employee played a role! (5:58) AI's true superpower and the next jump (12:23) AI robotics: humanoids and other form factors (17:07) Future of foundational models and open-source (19:59) Human-computer interaction in the age of AI (31:09) Partner shoutouts: Thanks to OKX, Circle, Polymarket, Solana, BVNK, and Google Cloud! Check out OKX: https://www.okx.com Check out Circle: https://www.circle.com Follow the besties: https://x.com/chamath https://x.com/Jason https://x.com/DavidSacks https://x.com/friedberg Follow on X: https://x.com/theallinpod Follow on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theallinpod Follow on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@theallinpod Follow on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/allinpod Intro Music Credit: https://rb.gy/tppkzl https://x.com/yung_spielburg Intro Video Credit: https://x.com/TheZachEffec

(0:00) The Besties welcome Ben Shapiro! (1:53) A Bestie apology to Phil Hellmuth, All-In Poker Tournament (7:58) Trump's majorly consequential Middle East trip: Saudi, Qatar, Iran, and his vision for a "New Middle East" (35:18) US-China deal: is the tide turning on tariffs? (46:33) GOP divided over "Big, Beautiful Bill" due to its impact on our debt spiral (1:18:48) Science Corner: Montana bans cell-based meat, joining Florida and others (1:24:31) Trump's EO on pharma prices: role of PBMs, is this too much government intervention? Follow Ben Shapiro: https://x.com/benshapiro Follow the besties: https://x.com/chamath https://x.com/Jason https://x.com/DavidSacks https://x.com/friedberg Follow on X: https://x.com/theallinpod Follow on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theallinpod Follow on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@theallinpod Follow on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/allinpod Intro Music Credit: https://rb.gy/tppkzl https://x.com/yung_spielburg Intro Video Credit: https://x.com/TheZachEffect Referenced in the show: https://www.whitehouse.gov/fact-sheets/2025/05/fact-sheet-president-donald-j-trump-secures-historic-1-2-trillion-economic-commitment-in-qatar https://www.whitehouse.gov/fact-sheets/2025/05/fact-sheet-president-donald-j-trump-secures-historic-600-billion-investment-commitment-in-saudi-arabia https://www.whitehouse.gov/articles/2025/05/in-riyadh-president-trump-charts-the-course-for-a-prosperous-future-in-the-middle-east https://www.semafor.com/article/05/16/2025/qatar-commits-more-than-200-billion-in-us-investment https://www.cnbc.com/2025/05/13/trump-saudi-investment-speech.html https://www.cnbc.com/2025/05/13/trump-says-us-will-remove-all-sanctions-on-syria.html https://www.reuters.com/world/what-have-china-united-states-agreed-geneva-2025-05-12 https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/02/politics/donald-trump-dictators-kim-jong-un-vladimir-putin https://newrepublic.com/post/185836/trump-brags-dictators-orban-debate-harris https://www.cnbc.com/quotes/US30Y https://www.politico.com/live-updates/2025/05/14/congress/the-titanic-johnson-predicts-houses-big-beautiful-reconciliation-bill-will-sink-in-the-senate-00348310 https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/GFDEBTN https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/GFDEGDQ188S https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/12/opinion/josh-hawley-dont-cut-medicaid.html https://www.whitehouse.gov/fact-sheets/2025/05/fact-sheet-president-donald-j-trump-announces-actions-to-put-american-patients-first-by-lowering-drug-prices-and-stopping-foreign-free-riding-on-american-pharmaceutical-innovation/

(0:00) David Friedberg welcomes Alphabet CEO Sundar Pichai (2:58) Will AI kill search?: Google disrupting itself, evolving search to follow the user (15:32) Infrastructure advantage, foundational model differentiation (25:08) Future of human-computer interaction, hardware, competitive landscape in AI (35:29) Energy constraints in AI (41:20) Google's progress in quantum computing and robotics (47:56) Culture, coddling, and talent recruitment in the age of AI (56:50) Does he consider Alphabet a holding company searching for Google's next $100B business? Follow Sundar: https://x.com/sundarpichai Follow the besties: https://x.com/chamath https://x.com/Jason https://x.com/DavidSacks https://x.com/friedberg Follow on X: https://x.com/theallinpod Follow on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theallinpod Follow on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@theallinpod Follow on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/allinpod Intro Music Credit: https://rb.gy/tppkzl https://x.com/yung_spielburg Intro Video Credit: https://x.com/TheZachEffect

(0:00) The Besties intro Philippe Laffont! (2:12) Miami F1 Recap! (12:10) Fed holds rates steady on tariff uncertainty (32:47) Google drops after Apple sees fall in search queries on Safari (56:48) Creating a new Mag 7 (1:07:00) Private markets: Is traditional VC dead? Philippe details Coatue's new fund structure and what makes a great investor Follow Philippe Laffont: https://x.com/plaffont Follow the besties: https://x.com/chamath https://x.com/Jason https://x.com/DavidSacks https://x.com/friedberg Follow on X: https://x.com/theallinpod Follow on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theallinpod Follow on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@theallinpod Follow on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/allinpod Intro Music Credit: https://rb.gy/tppkzl https://x.com/yung_spielburg Intro Video Credit: https://x.com/TheZachEffect Referenced in the show: https://polymarket.com/event/fed-decision-in-june/fed-decreases-interest-rates-by-50-bps-after-june-2025-meeting?tid=1746821096114 https://www.federalreserve.gov/newsevents/pressreleases/monetary20250507a.htm https://www.mlex.com/mlex/antitrust/articles/2337168/apple-exec-testimony-on-search-volume-drop-hurts-google-stock-price https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-05-07/apple-working-to-move-to-ai-search-in-browser-amid-google-fallout https://blog.google/products/search/statement-press-reports-about-search-traffic https://x.com/EconomyApp/status/1915501252420784499 https://x.com/Similarweb/status/1920026287625658628 https://openai.com/index/leadership-expansion-with-fidji-simo https://files.pitchbook.com/website/files/pdf/Q1_2025_PitchBook-NVCA_Venture_Monitor_19001.pdf https://stockanalysis.com/ipos/statistics

(0:00) David Friedberg introduces Secretary Doug Burgum (2:11) Burgum's background and how it led to his role in the administration (10:56) The state of American energy and how we got here (22:32) America's energy emergency: AI, unlocking potential, China, increasing national risk tolerance (34:22) Burgum's National Balance Sheet idea: How it could help reduce national debt (42:25) Mining, overseeing the EPA, aligning agencies with outcomes Follow Secretary Burgum: https://x.com/SecretaryBurgum Follow the besties: https://x.com/chamath https://x.com/Jason https://x.com/DavidSacks https://x.com/friedberg Follow on X: https://x.com/theallinpod Follow on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theallinpod Follow on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@theallinpod Follow on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/allinpod Intro Music Credit: https://rb.gy/tppkzl https://x.com/yung_spielburg Intro Video Credit: https://x.com/TheZachEffect

(0:00) David Friedberg welcomes Agriculture Secretary Brooke Rollins! (1:32) How she ended up in Trump's two administrations, history of the USDA (16:56) Trump's first 100 days, what needs to be reformed in the USDA (21:31) SNAP's massive impact on USDA budget: soda, obesity, health challenges; how being DC outsiders helps the Trump Administration (30:48) How she reconciles running a department with a lot of government intervention after coming from a free market background (34:33) State of US farming in 2025, labor costs, opening up new markets, and more (42:11) Working with DOGE, Farm Bill negotiation, stance on agricultural innovation Follow Secretary Rollins: https://x.com/SecRollins https://x.com/BrookeLRollins Follow the besties: https://x.com/chamath https://x.com/Jason https://x.com/DavidSacks https://x.com/friedberg Follow on X: https://x.com/theallinpod Follow on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theallinpod Follow on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@theallinpod Follow on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/allinpod Intro Music Credit: https://rb.gy/tppkzl https://x.com/yung_spielburg Intro Video Credit: https://x.com/TheZachEffect

(0:00) The Besties welcome Box's Aaron Levie and Flexport's Ryan Petersen! (4:05) Is Sacks back? (8:19) Reflecting on Trump's first 100 days (28:16) Global trade disruption, how businesses are dealing with tariffs (49:14) Amazon flip-flops on its tariff pricing feature, national security issues (1:04:13) AI agents, 1,000,000X'ing AI, and more Follow Aaron Levie: https://x.com/levie Follow Ryan Petersen: https://x.com/typesfast Follow the besties: https://x.com/chamath https://x.com/Jason https://x.com/DavidSacks https://x.com/friedberg Follow on X: https://x.com/theallinpod Follow on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theallinpod Follow on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@theallinpod Follow on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/allinpod Intro Music Credit: https://rb.gy/tppkzl https://x.com/yung_spielburg Intro Video Credit: https://x.com/TheZachEffect Referenced in the show: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OODA_loop https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/joe-biden/biden-warns-risk-nuclear-armageddon-highest-cuban-missile-crisis-rcna51146 https://www.nytimes.com/2025/03/30/world/europe/us-ukraine-military-war-takeaways.html https://x.com/Molson_Hart/status/1915248938753392642 https://x.com/SecScottBessent/status/1917697018551754802 https://www.nytimes.com/2025/04/29/us/politics/trump-amazon-tariffs-prices.html https://x.com/chamath/status/1908239828283777393 https://www.theinformation.com/articles/openai-plots-charging-20-000-a-month-for-phd-level-agents?rc=pxkrxo https://manus.im https://www.theinformation.com/briefings/benchmark-invests-chinese-startup-behind-manus-ai-agent?rc=pxkrxo https://polymarket.com/event/which-company-has-best-ai-model-end-of-2025?tid=1746130417369

(0:00) The Besties intro Andrew Ross Sorkin (2:04) Market bump: Trump rally or a Bessent put? (18:04) Are tariffs damaging the American "brand"? Apple's investment in India (38:18) Balance of power politics, Ukraine/Russia ceasefire negotiation halted over Crimea (50:00) Alphabet earnings: Massive resiliency, Google's Gemini Problem (1:05:40) Tesla jumps on Elon's return, pulling back from DOGE (1:18:35) Science Corner: China's Thorium Breakthrough Follow Andrew: https://x.com/andrewrsorkin Follow the besties: https://x.com/chamath https://x.com/Jason https://x.com/DavidSacks https://x.com/friedberg Follow on X: https://x.com/theallinpod Follow on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theallinpod Follow on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@theallinpod Follow on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/allinpod Intro Music Credit: https://rb.gy/tppkzl https://x.com/yung_spielburg Intro Video Credit: https://x.com/TheZachEffect Referenced in the show: https://www.google.com/finance/quote/.DJI:INDEXDJX?comparison=INDEXSP%3A.INX%2CINDEXNASDAQ%3A.IXIC&window=5D https://x.com/nic__carter/status/1909066161464959070 https://www.nytimes.com/2025/04/16/business/china-rare-earths-us.html https://x.com/TheTranscript_/status/1915116330534998440 https://www.ft.com/content/c2be45b8-cfad-4cbb-9a1a-bfd0626be372 https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump https://www.nytimes.com/2025/04/22/world/europe/ukraine-cease-fire-talks.html https://www.forbes.com/sites/kenrapoza/2015/03/20/one-year-after-russia-annexed-crimea-locals-prefer-moscow-to-kiev https://x.com/EconomyApp/status/1915501252420784499 https://www.artificialintelligence-news.com/news/chinese-firms-cloud-loophole-access-us-ai-tech https://polymarket.com/event/how-much-spending-will-elon-and-doge-cut-in-2025 https://doge.gov/savings https://www.scmp.com/news/china/science/article/3300360/chinas-thorium-survey-finds-endless-energy-source-right-under-our-feet https://www.spglobal.com/commodityinsights/es/market-insights/latest-news/energy-transition/020123-china-to-maintain-renewables-growth-pace-in-2023-despite-uncertainty https://www.reuters.com/world/china/images-show-china-building-huge-fusion-research-facility-analysts-say-2025-01-28

(0:00) The Besties welcome Tim Dillon! (6:56) Nvidia H20 export controls, the China workaround, plausible deniability by chipmakers selling to China-linked entities (28:45) Trump vs. Harvard: Why the White House is threatening to take Harvard's tax-exempt status away (57:04) Hollywood's DEI facade, thoughts on AI, and more (1:18:06) Celebrity Jeopardy update: Friedberg is heading to the finals! (1:26:44) Science Corner: Mitochondrial Therapy Follow Tim: https://x.com/TimJDillon Check out Tim's new special: https://www.netflix.com/title/81992010 Follow the besties: https://x.com/chamath https://x.com/Jason https://x.com/DavidSacks https://x.com/friedberg Follow on X: https://x.com/theallinpod Follow on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theallinpod Follow on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@theallinpod Follow on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/allinpod Intro Music Credit: https://rb.gy/tppkzl https://x.com/yung_spielburg Intro Video Credit: https://x.com/TheZachEffect Referenced in the show: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wUzmVo2dZNs https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/stock-market-trump-tariffs-trade-war-04-15-25/card/nvidia-records-5-5-billion-charge-on-new-h20-export-restrictions-LXjxlqr2m80QIrfJxnYZ https://www.wsj.com/economy/trade/trump-chip-exports-nvidia-h20-china-amd-d2c4c866 https://www.reuters.com/technology/exclusive-nvidia-offers-new-advanced-chip-china-that-meets-us-export-controls-2022-11-08 https://abachy.com/news/nvidia-unveil-new-ai-chips-chinese-market-after-us-bans-a800-and-h800 https://www.moomoo.com/community/feed/compared-to-the-h100-how-is-the-performance-of-the-111725151846805 https://www.reuters.com/technology/tsmc-could-face-1-billion-or-more-fine-us-probe-sources-say-2025-04-08 https://www.bis.gov https://www.cnbc.com/2025/04/15/us-is-unable-to-replace-rare-earths-supply-from-china-warns-csis-.html https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-03-31/trump-administration-to-review-billions-in-grants-to-harvard https://www.harvard.edu/research-funding/wp-content/uploads/sites/16/2025/04/Letter-Sent-to-Harvard-2025-04-11.pdf https://www.harvard.edu/president/news/2025/the-promise-of-american-higher-education https://apnews.com/article/harvard-trump-administration-federal-cuts-antisemitism-0a1fb70a2c1055bda7c4c5a5c476e18d https://www.cnn.com/2025/04/16/politics/irs-harvard-tax-exempt-status/index.html https://www.boston.com/news/local-news/2024/09/05/harvard-comes-in-dead-last-in-nationwide-free-speech-rankings https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Jones_University_v._United_States https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Students_for_Fair_Admissions_v._Harvard https://www.thecrimson.com/article/2022/7/13/faculty-survey-political-leaning https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/ukraines-parliament-extends-martial-law-until-august-2025-04-16 https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-023-06537-z https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-025-00848-z https://www.researchgate.net/publication/389907980_Organelle-tuning_condition_robustly_fabricates_energetic_mitochondria_for_cartilage_regeneration/fulltext/67d8575e478c5a3feda50563/Organelle-tuning-condition-robustly-fabricates-energetic-mitochondria-for-cartilage-regeneration.pdf https://www.foxnews.com/media/george-clooney-calls-breaking-biden-2024-his-civic-duty-says-democrats-werent-telling-truth

(0:00) Bestie intros! (0:58) Reacting to Trump targeting China and postponing all other reciprocal tariffs (21:21) Measures for success of tariffs, debating the impact of letting China into the WTO (46:14) Is the US being exploited on trade? Was free trade a mistake? (1:02:01) Recession chances, How the Trump administration gathers information (1:19:39) Future of the Democratic Party, Abundance agenda, DOGE (1:51:00) The Besties recap the debate and Chamath recaps the Breakthrough Prize Ceremony Follow Larry: https://x.com/LHSummers Follow Ezra: https://x.com/ezraklein Follow the besties: https://x.com/chamath https://x.com/Jason https://x.com/DavidSacks https://x.com/friedberg Follow on X: https://x.com/theallinpod Follow on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theallinpod Follow on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@theallinpod Follow on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/allinpod Intro Music Credit: https://rb.gy/tppkzl https://x.com/yung_spielburg Intro Video Credit: https://x.com/TheZachEffect Referenced in the show: https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/114309144289505174 https://x.com/WhiteHouse/status/1910058352278708638 https://www.wsj.com/politics/policy/why-trump-blinked-on-tariffs-b588aea8 https://breakthroughprize.org

(0:00) The Besties welcome Ben Shapiro and Antonio Gracias (1:54) Why Antonio is helping out and what it's like working with DOGE (4:56) DOGE's latest findings: illegal immigration, social security, and more (27:59) Was Biden's open border policy a Dem strategy to expand their voter base? (39:55) Tariffs: Liberation Day chaos, reactions, strategy (55:26) Impact, consequences, and risks for the Trump Administration (1:13:50) How the US can thrive in a high-tariff world (1:31:33) Future US political landscape if the tariff strategy fails (1:42:27) Chamath recaps his best-performing asset of 2025 + wrap Follow Antonio: https://x.com/AntonioGracias Follow Ben: https://x.com/benshapiro Follow the besties: https://x.com/chamath https://x.com/Jason https://x.com/DavidSacks https://x.com/friedberg Follow on X: https://x.com/theallinpod Follow on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theallinpod Follow on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@theallinpod Follow on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/allinpod Intro Music Credit: https://rb.gy/tppkzl https://x.com/yung_spielburg Intro Video Credit: https://x.com/TheZachEffect Referenced in the show: https://x.com/AntonioGracias/status/1906877800511893670 https://polymarket.com/event/magnificent-7-shrinks-below-30-of-sp-500-in-2025?tid=1743434648860 https://x.com/Geiger_Capital/status/1907553323387072774 https://x.com/enriqueabeyta/status/1907796286763409439 https://x.com/Geiger_Capital/status/1907622848149037509 https://x.com/litcapital/status/1907813630227173534 https://www.wsj.com/tech/ai/asml-euv-machine-lithography-chips-967954d0 https://www.hoover.org/publications/goodfellows https://www.ft.com/content/bcb1d331-5d8e-4cac-811e-eac7d9448486

(0:00) Friedberg and Jason are live from Austin! (2:51) How building an audience has impacted the Besties (11:15) Colin & Samir join the Besties! (12:01) Evolution of short-form and long-form content (22:18) Business models for creatives (35:04) Advice to up and coming creators (42:10) Chris Williamson joins the Besties! (50:17) Making it seem effortless (57:47) Monetizing content (1:05:02) Scaling a one-man show (1:19:15) Bryan Johnson joins the Besties! (1:20:13) Spotify's move to video (1:21:21) Bryan's Ketamine experience (1:28:03) Creators and value props (1:36:52) Issues with the US food industry (1:43:10) Top tips for healthy living Thanks to our partners for making this happen: Gemini: Go to https://www.gemini.com/allin to get $50 in bitcoin when you sign up and trade. Function Health: Go to https://www.functionhealth.com/allin and use gift code ALLIN100 at checkout to get a $100 credit toward membership - limited to the first 1K listeners. NIAGEN Plus IVs: Visit https://www.niagenplus.com to discover the future of cellular performance. Follow Colin and Samir: https://www.youtube.com/@ColinandSamir https://x.com/ColinandSamir Follow Chris Williamson: https://www.youtube.com/@ChrisWillx https://x.com/ChrisWillx Follow Bryan Johnson: https://www.youtube.com/@BryanJohnson https://x.com/bryan_johnson Follow the besties: https://x.com/chamath https://x.com/Jason https://x.com/DavidSacks https://x.com/friedberg Follow on X: https://x.com/theallinpod Follow on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theallinpod Follow on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@theallinpod Follow on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/allinpod Intro Music Credit: https://rb.gy/tppkzl https://x.com/yung_spielburg Intro Video Credit: https://x.com/TheZachEffect

(0:00) The Besties welcome Gavin Baker back on the show! (1:20) Nvidia balance sheet questions, CoreWeave IPO, M&A/IPO bounce back (16:22) US vs China in AI: Manus, China building its own Nvidia, and more (28:37) The Administration's endgame for tariffs (53:05) Signalgate: context and fallout (1:09:42) El Salvador deportations Follow Gavin: https://x.com/GavinSBaker Follow the besties: https://x.com/chamath https://x.com/Jason https://x.com/DavidSacks https://x.com/friedberg Follow on X: https://x.com/theallinpod Follow on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theallinpod Follow on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@theallinpod Follow on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/allinpod Intro Music Credit: https://rb.gy/tppkzl https://x.com/yung_spielburg Intro Video Credit: https://x.com/TheZachEffect Referenced in the show: https://www.reuters.com/technology/coreweave-planning-cut-us-ipo-size-price-below-range-source-says-2025-03-27 https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-adds-dozens-entities-export-restriction-list-2025-03-25 https://modelcontextprotocol.io/introduction https://www.theinformation.com/articles/openai-plots-charging-20-000-a-month-for-phd-level-agents?rc=pxkrxo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8wJc7vHcTs https://x.com/JohnArnoldFndtn/status/1905296181208416744 https://x.com/chamath/status/1904547884877701610 https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2025/03/trump-administration-accidentally-texted-me-its-war-plans/682151 https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/03/invocation-of-the-alien-enemies-act-regarding-the-invasion-of-the-united-states-by-tren-de-aragua https://www.statista.com/statistics/696152/homicide-rate-in-el-salvador https://x.com/Sec_Noem/status/1905034256826408982

(0:00) Welcoming Cyan Banister and David Sacks! (3:23) Behind the scenes of the Besties in DC: White House, cabinet interviews, and more (33:00) How M&A will be unleashed, Google buys Wiz for $32B, Tim Walz on Tesla (49:09) Deep dive on Google/Wiz: breakup fee, impact on VC, ROIC, cloud advantage (1:00:28) Treasury vs Fed tension, Bond markets, consumers, deregulation (1:12:57) Space rescue, SpaceX vs China, lunar landing Thanks to our partners for making this happen: Hims: https://www.hims.com | https://www.forhers.com Gemini: https://www.gemini.com/allin iTrustCapital (use code allin): https://www.itrustcapital.com/allin Follow Cyan: https://x.com/cyantist Follow the besties: https://x.com/chamath https://x.com/Jason https://x.com/DavidSacks https://x.com/friedberg Follow on X: https://x.com/theallinpod Follow on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theallinpod Follow on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@theallinpod Follow on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/allinpod Intro Music Credit: https://rb.gy/tppkzl https://x.com/yung_spielburg Intro Video Credit: https://x.com/TheZachEffect Referenced in the show: Bessent interview: https://youtu.be/lSma9suyp24 Lutnick interview: https://youtu.be/182ckTL2KBA https://www.cnbc.com/2025/03/18/google-to-acquire-cloud-security-startup-wiz-for-32-billion.html https://x.com/Tim_Walz/status/1902197581586833643 https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/democratic-party-hits-new-polling-lowvoters-want-fight-trump-harder-rcna196161 https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1519735033950470144 https://www.ft.com/content/e6f516e8-2262-44d2-a030-7071b62b0be7 https://x.com/thesamparr/status/1902385138308104685 https://www.wsj.com/economy/central-banking/interest-rates-decision-federal-reserve-ed172223 https://www.cnbc.com/quotes/US10Y https://www.nytimes.com/2025/03/10/technology/eric-schmidt-relativity-space.html https://arstechnica.com/space/2024/11/chinas-long-term-lunar-plans-now-depend-on-developing-its-own-starship https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/elections/steve-kornacki-white-men-white-women-gap-gender-gap-rcna196791

(0:00) Chamath and Friedberg welcome Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick! (1:10) Howard describes his 30+ year relationship with President Trump and his road from business to politics (14:44) Running Trump's transition team, DOGE origin story, what it's like working for Trump (38:01) Balancing the budget and fixing GDP (52:21) Tariff history and strategy, global trade (1:10:34) Trump Cards, building better government software, AI thoughts (1:22:49) Sovereign Wealth Fund strategy (1:37:16) How his family reacted to his new role Thanks to our partners for making this happen: Gemini: https://www.gemini.com/allin Hims: https://www.hims.com | https://www.forhers.com iTrustCapital (use code allin): https://www.itrustcapital.com/allin Follow Secretary Lutnick: https://x.com/howardlutnick Follow the besties: https://x.com/chamath https://x.com/Jason https://x.com/DavidSacks https://x.com/friedberg Follow on X: https://x.com/theallinpod Follow on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theallinpod Follow on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@theallinpod Follow on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/allinpod Intro Music Credit: https://rb.gy/tppkzl https://x.com/yung_spielburg Intro Video Credit: https://x.com/TheZachEffect

(0:00) Chamath and Friedberg describe their adventures in DC and welcome Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent! (2:12) Scott's background, what drew him to equities, the role of macro investors (7:22) The legendary trade that broke the Bank of England in 1992, and how it relates to Main Street vs Wall Street today (21:30) Scott explains the Trump Administration's economic strategy (32:45) How this administration plans to de-regulate the economy, Fed relationship, re-financing debt (42:06) DOGE, DC grifts, shakeup at the IRS (50:51) Re-engineering social security through the US SWF, how energy factors in (1:00:02) Surprises, fixing affordability, thoughts on President Trump Thanks to our partners for making this happen: Gemini: https://www.gemini.com/allin Hims: https://www.hims.com | https://www.forhers.com iTrustCapital (use code allin): https://www.itrustcapital.com/allin Follow Secretary Bessent: https://x.com/SecScottBessent Follow the besties: https://x.com/chamath https://x.com/Jason https://x.com/DavidSacks https://x.com/friedberg Follow on X: https://x.com/theallinpod Follow on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theallinpod Follow on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@theallinpod Follow on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/allinpod Intro Music Credit: https://rb.gy/tppkzl https://x.com/yung_spielburg Intro Video Credit: https://x.com/TheZachEffect

(0:00) The Besties intro Andrew Schulz! (3:29) Friedberg hits a quick Science Corner on the future of fertility (9:35) Reacting to Gavin Newsom's new podcast: genius or pandering? (19:36) Tariff experiment so far: risks, communication issues, and more (30:44) Why the American Dream is broken and how to fix it: cracking the housing market, social security reform (55:45) Aligning upside via increased stock market participation (1:11:23) How Andrew blew up in comedy, going direct via YouTube, building a cancel-proof following (1:22:25) State of America, conspiracy obsession, thoughts on Trump and DOGE GET TICKETS for All-In Live: Miami https://allin.com/events Follow Andrew: https://x.com/andrewschulz Check out Andrew's new special LIFE: https://www.netflix.com/title/81741999 Follow the besties: https://x.com/chamath https://x.com/Jason https://x.com/DavidSacks https://x.com/friedberg Follow on X: https://x.com/theallinpod Follow on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theallinpod Follow on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@theallinpod Follow on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/allinpod Intro Music Credit: https://rb.gy/tppkzl https://x.com/yung_spielburg Intro Video Credit: https://x.com/TheZachEffect Referenced in the show: https://x.com/chamath/status/1895948351516131515 https://x.com/ChineseEmbinUS/status/1897132043362034153 https://electrek.co/2025/02/07/renewables-90-percent-new-us-capacity-2024-ferc https://www.wsj.com/opinion/bidens-mortgage-relief-fuels-higher-housing-prices-policy-loans-risk-cb0a1974

(0:00) The Besties welcome Joe Lonsdale! (3:51) Jason recaps an eventful week in Washington (8:29) Trump's tariffs: endgame, impact, chaos, master plan (26:25) DOGE, IRA grifting, do campaign contributions need to be capped? (53:42) CoreWeave IPO (1:03:36) Trump 2.0 favoring Main Street over Wall Street, bond market breakdown, re-balancing the economy (1:14:19) State of Ukraine/Russia, the Western alliance, and how techno-optimism plays into the future of defense pacts (1:24:31) GPT-4.5, Grok 3 on X, and the Golden Age of language models (1:33:47) All-In for F1 Miami! (1:37:34) David Sacks joins Jason to break down the Strategic Bitcoin Reserve and Digital Asset Stockpile (1:48:30) Sacks addresses clearing all of his crypto-related positions prior to Inauguration Day (1:57:23) Importance of disclosures and updates on a market structure bill GET TICKETS for All-In Live: Miami https://allin.com/events Follow Joe: https://x.com/JTLonsdale Follow the besties: https://x.com/chamath https://x.com/Jason https://x.com/DavidSacks https://x.com/friedberg Follow on X: https://x.com/theallinpod Follow on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theallinpod Follow on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@theallinpod Follow on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/allinpod Intro Music Credit: https://rb.gy/tppkzl https://x.com/yung_spielburg Intro Video Credit: https://x.com/TheZachEffect Referenced in the show: https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/114093526901586124 https://x.com/JTLonsdale/status/1896245689488920748 https://x.com/Jason/status/1896235076456739138 https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/114093946326587357 https://www.reuters.com/technology/tsmc-ceo-meet-with-trump-tout-investment-plans-2025-03-03 https://x.com/AutismCapital/status/1896655215899893968 https://x.com/USATODAY/status/1897248477081460849 https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/supreme-court/supreme-court-rejects-trump-administrations-bid-avoid-paying-usaid-con-rcna194230 https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/114116432894994278 https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/114112015891353323 https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/trump-auto-tariff-rate-will-be-around-25-2025-02-18 https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/USGOVT https://x.com/DOGE/status/1897464303428755692 https://electrek.co/2025/02/07/renewables-90-percent-new-us-capacity-2024-ferc https://www.thefp.com/p/a-20-billion-slush-fund-nonprofits https://x.com/bariweiss/status/1896992192197013888 https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/114117008305421663 https://x.com/chamath/status/1895948351516131515 https://x.com/chamath/status/1895948351516131515 https://x.com/unusual_whales/status/1897737394964906437 https://x.com/great_martis/status/1897194563800064153 https://x.com/great_martis/status/1897581115952804248 https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1769628/000119312525044231/d899798ds1.htm https://x.com/chamath/status/1896052861500604884 https://www.newsweek.com/map-global-thorium-reserves-country-2039893 https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump-bitcoin-cryptocurrency-stockpile-6f1314f5e99bbf47cc3ee6fc6178588d https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/01/strengthening-american-leadership-in-digital-financial-technology https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/03/establishment-of-the-strategic-bitcoin-reserveand-united-states-digital-asset-stockpile https://x.com/dmartkc/status/1896260059640025113 https://x.com/ryangrim/status/1896306748052623852 https://x.com/_Andre_Ellis/status/1896935969041104981 https://x.com/KyleSamani/status/1897130321021411750 https://x.com/pbartstephens/status/1897008176467468349 https://x.com/HHorsley/status/1897461451675328879

(0:00) Bestie intros (1:41) Epstein files first release underwhelms (4:40) Friedberg recaps his experience on Celebrity Jeopardy! (14:22) State of autonomous robots (21:06) Comparing annual reports from Stripe and Adyen; Stripe's network effects, stablecoin infra, and the pace of AI company building (29:12) State of the market: stocks, tariffs, spending bill, the "great reset" (49:07) Trump's Gold Card (56:19) Sophisticated investor test, changing accreditation laws (1:06:57) USPS, Bezos refocuses the WaPo's opinion page Follow the besties: https://x.com/chamath https://x.com/Jason https://x.com/DavidSacks https://x.com/friedberg Follow on X: https://x.com/theallinpod Follow on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theallinpod Follow on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@theallinpod Follow on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/allinpod Intro Music Credit: https://rb.gy/tppkzl https://x.com/yung_spielburg Intro Video Credit: https://x.com/TheZachEffect Referenced in the show: https://x.com/bennyjohnson/status/1895195194947183047 https://x.com/adcock_brett/status/1895175400160133543 https://x.com/markjeffrey/status/1892735775550406828 https://x.com/pitdesi/status/1895117427480109238 https://x.com/jmover/status/1895129169882661100 https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/tether https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/usd-coin https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/UNRATE https://www.cnbc.com/2025/02/12/cpi-january-2025.html https://x.com/StealthQE4/status/1894227465616171361 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-ttACozP8s https://www.cnbc.com/quotes/US10Y https://x.com/chamath/status/1888371069322686895 https://polymarket.com/event/how-many-gold-cards-will-trump-sell-in-2025/will-trump-sell-2pt5k-5k-gold-cards-in-2025?tid=1740688723350 https://x.com/Jason/status/1706067572226244789 https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2025/02/20/trump-usps-takeover-dejoy/ https://x.com/Jason/status/1894412028279693546 https://x.com/JeffBezos/status/1894757287052362088

(0:00) The Besties welcome John and Patrick Collison! (4:28) Stripe's business evolution: $1T in volume/year, stablecoins, challenging the Visa/Mastercard duopoly, publishing economic indicators (20:31) Jamie Dimon's leaked rant on remote work and bureaucracy (34:22) DOGE for Defense: Trump ordered the Pentagon to look at cutting the defense budget by 8%/year over the next five years (43:51) Crypto Corner: Milei's Memecoin embarrassment (1:00:18) John and Patrick break down the Arc Institute and its new Evo 2 AI model (1:18:04) Grok 3 takes the LLM lead, lessons learned from Elon's Colossus scale up (1:30:22) Science Corner: Asteroid update (1:35:42) Why Stripe hasn't gone public yet, despite great metrics Register for All-In at SXSW: https://allin.com/events Follow John: https://x.com/collision Follow Patrick: https://x.com/patrickc Follow the besties: https://x.com/chamath https://x.com/Jason https://x.com/DavidSacks https://x.com/friedberg Follow on X: https://x.com/theallinpod Follow on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theallinpod Follow on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@theallinpod Follow on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/allinpod Intro Music Credit: https://rb.gy/tppkzl https://x.com/yung_spielburg Intro Video Credit: https://x.com/TheZachEffect Referenced in the show: https://www.cnbc.com/2024/10/23/stripes-1point1-billion-deal-for-bridge-marks-much-needed-win-for-vc.html https://x.com/Zigmanfreud/status/1890202488596492620 https://www.coworker.org/petitions/professional-dignity https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-01-03/shopify-ceo-tobi-lutke-tells-employees-to-just-say-no-to-meetings https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2025/02/19/trump-pentagon-budget-cuts https://www.amazon.com/Boyd-Fighter-Pilot-Who-Changed/dp/0316796883 https://www.cnn.com/2025/02/16/americas/argentina-milei-libra-cryptocurrency-impeachment-calls-intl-latam/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2025/02/18/americas/argentina-milei-defends-libra-crypto-tweet-intl-latam/index.html https://arcinstitute.org https://blogs.nvidia.com/blog/evo-2-biomolecular-ai https://artificialanalysis.ai/models/grok-3 https://x.com/GavinSBaker/status/1891721991444447343 https://www.amazon.com/Henry-J-Kaiser-Builder-American/dp/0292742266 https://x.com/AsteroidWatch/status/1892338055354159256 https://x.com/AsteroidWatch/status/1892631907646447746

(0:00) The Besties intro Naval Ravikant! (9:07) Naval reflects on his thoughtful tweets and reputation (14:17) Unique views on parenting (23:20) Sacks joins to talk AI: JD Vance's speech in Paris, Techno-Optimists vs Doomers (1:11:06) Tariffs and the US economic experiment (1:21:15) Thomson Reuters wins first major AI copyright decision on behalf of rights holders (1:35:35) Chamath's dinner with Bryan Johnson, sleep hacks (1:45:09) Tulsi Gabbard, RFK Jr. confirmed Follow Naval: https://x.com/naval Follow the besties: https://x.com/chamath https://x.com/Jason https://x.com/DavidSacks https://x.com/friedberg Follow on X: https://x.com/theallinpod Follow on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theallinpod Follow on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@theallinpod Follow on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/allinpod Intro Music Credit: https://rb.gy/tppkzl https://x.com/yung_spielburg Intro Video Credit: https://x.com/TheZachEffect Referenced in the show: https://x.com/naval/status/1002103360646823936 https://x.com/CollinRugg/status/1889349078657716680 https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/01/removing-barriers-to-american-leadership-in-artificial-intelligence https://www.cnn.com/2021/06/09/politics/kamala-harris-foreign-trip/index.html https://www.cnbc.com/2025/02/11/anduril-to-take-over-microsofts-22-billion-us-army-headset-program.html https://x.com/JDVance/status/1889640434793910659 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCNYhuISzxg https://www.wired.com/story/thomson-reuters-ai-copyright-lawsuit https://admin.bakerlaw.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/11/ECF-1-Complaint.pdf https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xTGNNLPyMI https://polymarket.com/event/which-trump-picks-will-be-confirmed?tid=1739471077488

(0:00) The Besties intro Antonio Gracias! (3:11) DOGE takes on USAID (31:44) Sacks breaks in to talk USAID (34:00) Sacks explains what he's working on: Crypto/AI Frameworks (46:41) The Democratic Party's shrinking base (52:33) US Sovereign Wealth Fund + Breaking DOGE/Tax News (1:09:07) Google to spend $75B on AI buildout in 2025, future of work in the age of AI (1:23:21) Science Corner: GLP-1 macro study Follow Antonio: https://x.com/AntonioGracias Follow the besties: https://x.com/chamath https://x.com/Jason https://x.com/DavidSacks https://x.com/friedberg Follow on X: https://x.com/theallinpod Follow on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theallinpod Follow on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@theallinpod Follow on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/allinpod Intro Music Credit: https://rb.gy/tppkzl https://x.com/yung_spielburg Intro Video Credit: https://x.com/TheZachEffect Referenced in the show: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Agency_for_International_Development https://www.wsj.com/opinion/usaid-donald-trump-elon-musk-marco-rubio-state-department-foreign-aid-8d2a1920 https://www.usa.gov/agencies/u-s-agency-for-international-development https://www.usaspending.gov/agency/agency-for-international-development?fy=2024 https://www.whitehouse.gov/fact-sheets/2025/02/at-usaid-waste-and-abuse-runs-deep https://www.wsj.com/finance/banks-sell-5-5-billion-of-x-loans-after-investor-interest-surges-4b84f89c https://www.usaspending.gov https://www.foxnews.com/media/ex-politico-reporters-reveal-editors-quashed-slow-walked-negative-biden-stories-with-no-explanation https://www.usaspending.gov/recipient/fa0cefae-7cfb-881d-29c3-1bd39cc6a49e-C/2024 https://www.bbc.co.uk/mediaaction/about/funding https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/01/reevaluating-and-realigning-united-states-foreign-aid https://x.com/susancrabtree/status/1884034727046226317 https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1886627783138316442 https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/usaid-security-leaders-removed-refusing-elon-musks-doge-employees-accercna190357 https://x.com/Jason/status/1885082871074886110 https://x.com/anc_aesthetics/status/1886176995433763188 https://x.com/wikileaks/status/1887501752213409919 https://x.com/pm_viktororban/status/1887224829352280505 https://x.com/daily_romania/status/1887883017550430435 https://x.com/kanekoathegreat/status/1887261736618893636 https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/01/strengthening-american-leadership-in-digital-financial-technology https://x.com/davidsacks47/status/1886878016183394403 https://www.banking.senate.gov/newsroom/majority/scott-hagerty-lummis-gillibrand-introduce-legislation-to-establish-a-stablecoin-regulatory-framework https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2025/02/02/rahm-emanuel-democrats-voters-kitchen-table https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/02/a-plan-for-establishing-a-united-states-sovereign-wealth-fund https://www.americanprogress.org/article/scott-bessents-3-percent-deficit-target-would-require-massive-cuts-to-anti-poverty-programs-and-middle-class-tax-increases https://abcnews.go.com/US/judge-weigh-block-doge-accessing-treasury-department-records/story?id=118498817 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_DOGE_Service https://x.com/libsoftiktok/status/1887585824218509380 https://fedscoop.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/5/2025/02/show_temp.pdf https://www.cnbc.com/2025/02/05/alphabet-shares-fall-7percent-on-revenue-miss-heightened-ai-investments.html https://abc.xyz/assets/a3/91/6d1950c148fa84c7d699abe05284/2024q4-alphabet-earnings-release.pdf https://x.com/SawyerMerritt/status/1886899315735507255 https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-024-03412-w